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Can a person be nostalgic for something they never experienced?

I notice people here often say they are "nostalgic" for a time they actually weren't yet born, or were too young to have a real conscious awareness of the culture. Such as  "I am nostalgic for the 80s because I was too young to experience it" or "I wasn't born in the 80s so I am nostalgic for it".

This is how the Oxford Dictionary defines nostalgia:

nos·tal·gia
/näˈstaljə,nəˈstaljə/
 noun
a sentimental longing or wistful affection for the past, typically for a period or place with happy personal associations.
Example: "I was overcome with acute nostalgia for my days in college"

So, can a person actually be "nostalgic" for something they never experienced? Wouldn't a feeling for the 80s, for example, be classified more as a historical interest rather than nostalgia, if one wasn't  alive in the 80s? Another illustration might be a person very interested in the Civil War. They may participate in re-enactments, collect memorabilia, costumes, etc. Are they "nostalgic" for the Civil War era or do they just have a keen historical interest, making it more of a hobby than nostalgia?

Also, can one pick and choose what to feel nostalgic about? I see a lot of specificness here such as  "I'm nostalgic for the period of early 2014, while so-and-so was still popular, before such-and-such took over". Can nostalgia be compartmentalized that way? If it's a wistful or sentimental  feeling I'm not sure it can be consciously directed. IT has to tell you when to be nostalgic, YOU can't tell it.

Thoughts?
 

Posted by: Voiceofthe70s at August 25, 2021, 01:07:47 PM. There are 19 responses

I'm worried online time capsules won't last.

I used to enjoy digging up my old posts on forums from years back. I like to reminisce on the good times I had and reflect on how much I've grown since then. However, most of the forums I used to post on, no longer exist. I used to post on celebrity forums like cybertlc forums, yeezytalk, kanyelive, etc and now those sites are shut down. One of the only sites where I can dig up old posts is Last.Fm (I'm honestly surprised it's still around, it was slowing down for a while).

l also used AIM, YIM, MSN Messenger a lot so of course I can't go back and look at those messages because those platforms were comprised of chats rooms and instant messaging. My old MySpace account is no where to be found and I can't remember the name of my first YouTube account.

 It makes me wonder, will Twitter, Tumblr, YouTube, etc suffer the same fate eventually? Will we be able to recover our old posts on those websites 10-20 years from now and reflect on our lives? I'm guessing this site will remain active being that it's already been around for more than 15 years. Not only that but we've got a new generation of users on this site who will more than likely keep it active.

Posted by: Millennium at May 27, 2018, 02:05:10 PM. There are 55 responses

The "Urban" label

So, I have meant to discuss this topic for quite some time now, but I haven't had the chance because I had a busy schedule for the last few weeks. I noticed that over the years, whenever a black musician becomes mainstream, that person is automatically placed either into the Hip-Hop or R&B tag. However, what the music industry doesn't seem to understand is that what if that same artist ends up deciding to do something else other than R&B or Hip-hop? It appears that they don't even get a choice.

It just seems weird since not all African-Americans sing R&B songs or even rap. Besides, before hip-hop was even a genre, black artists were into everything from Rock and country to jazz and easy-listening tracks. Caucasians, Latinos, Asians, etc. also produce Hip-hop songs as well as R&B, but for some reason, the industry labels their songs as "pop." Last, R&B stands for Rhythm and Blues which derived from the second term. It honestly doesn't make any sense. Now, I'm aware that are African-American musicians who are or were not branded as R&B or Hip-hop by the music business, but there is a minimal of them. Michael Jackson, B.B King, Black Eyed Peas, Jason Derulo, Darius Rucker, and Khalid are a few black musicians who made music outside the urban title and even received tons of appeal from a broad audience. It's frankly a bummer that black artists are considered Hip-hop/R&B by the industry while the non-black musicians are not. In the end, music is music. The record labels shouldn't define it by ethnicity, but instead talented, passionate, and enthusiastic people. That's who gets the job done. BTW, I will link two articles down below so anyone who is interested can get a glimpse of my OP.

http://www.thefader.com/2014/09/12/popping-off-fka-twigs-beyonce-alt-r-and-b

https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/black-musicians-on-being-boxed-in-by-randb-and-rap-expectations-we-fit-in-so-many-things/

Posted by: NerdyGamer at May 05, 2018, 11:35:49 PM. There are 51 responses

How much of your shopping is online?

I'm facing a bit of a dilemma. I've always been the "support local businesses" kind of person. I would never shop at chain stores, always preferred the local mom and pop shop. Support the local economy, keep your neighbourhood's character, etc.

But 2017 is making it too convenient to drop this habit. Amazon Prime is finally a decent deal here in Canada. Before I would get two day shipping without then need for Prime since I lived 30 minutes away from the warehouse. But this year they introduced same-day shipping, so we finally signed up for Prime. Now I just can't help but do a lot of my shopping online. Instead of taking a 30 minute-2 hour detour to the store, I just order it online, particularly for much cheaper items ($5-$20 range), and it's at my doorstep by the time I get home or the next morning.

I do about 70% of my shopping online now. In 2016, it was maybe 10%.

At the moment, I've been planning on making some purchases on Amazon, but I feel a bit guilty. I want to buy a Nintendo Switch, and it's in my Amazon cart at the moment, but I think to the local video game store near me and their owners who've been so kind to me over the years. Same for a protein powder I need to buy: the lady at the nutrition store really helped me in picking out one that was jut right for me. I can easily buy these things online, but I feel like I'm "betraying" my local stores. They close at, like, 7PM, but if I order that stuff from Amazon now, those items could be at my door the next morning.

Online shopping is incredibly convenient and it's only going to get better. But I fear the loss of that personal touch and the relationships formed that that goes into shopping at local stores, as inconvenient or expensive as it is.  :(

Posted by: Slowpoke at December 18, 2017, 09:48:37 PM. There are 60 responses

Tragedies of the 2000s (They didn't feel as bad as the 2010s)

The 2000s were a odd decade growing up....
It featured many things that changed America, and impacted people to who they are today in many ways. But the beginning of the decade things looked very very bright. Coming of a boom period, some thought what could go wrong. Well.... at first plenty. I'll pretty much only discuss the most notables I can think of off the top of my head.


The dot.com bubble bust took place in mid 2000, Bush became president and was viewed as a laughingstock and incompetent leader pre 9/11. Then.... on September 11th, at the world trade center in NYC; the twin towers came crashing down thanks to an horrific terrorist attack on our nation. In 2003, it was decided we were going to war in Iraq. We witnessed several natural disasters in the mid 2000s such as Tsunami of 2004 and Hurricane Katrina in 2005. In 2007 at Virgin a Tech college, a Chinese gunman opened fired and killed many students and some faculty. It ended up being the deadliest, school shooting RIGHT behind the Bath school massacre in 1927. In 2008 the economy had a crash ;reading to the worst times since the great depression.  :o


Those tragedies that I discussed impacted lives and even changed america's identity and perception to a degree. But.... it feels like they are NOTHING compared to what's been going on the past few years. In the early part of the decade you had the Fort Hood shooting and Trayvon Martin's death. But... then in later in 2012 things started to change. You had the Colorado Theater Massacre, Hurricane Sandy, and then the Sandy Hook elementary shooting, :\'( :\'( :\'( ! Then it felt like a relative quite year in 2013 until 2014 saw the rise of ISIS, ebola, the deaths of Eric Garner and Mike Brown which divided people and started changing society again. In 2015 things really started getting crazy with the SJWs, feminazis, overly PC crap, Church shooting in Carolina,Freddie Gray shooting, race issues here in my town of Missouri, San Barnadino  and then the Paris attacks in Brussles etc. and 2016 things have reached a boiling point. We have seen too many tragedies within DAYS or WEEKS from each other. Pulse night club shooting, black men are getting shot and killed by the cops AGAIN, and recently there has been a tragedy in France where 84 people got killed and over 200 being critical.

Despite the tragedies that happened in the 00s, the times seemed better to live in than the current era.

It seemed like in the 2000s issues dealt with political stuff such as 9/11, post 9/11 patriotism, war on terror, Iraq, backlash against bush, economics etc. This decade seems to deal more with personal issues such as race relations, random terrorists attacks, random shootings, black men being killed by police, Political Correctness, SJWs, extreme feminism, LGBT movement/issues etc.

People may have talked all kinds of sh*t about the 2000s but the 2010s make the decade seem like utopia.....

Posted by: MistaEazy-EMAN95 at July 15, 2016, 11:29:32 PM. There are 108 responses

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