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Sochi 2014 Winter Olympics And Gay Rights

I think we all know about the controversial Russian anti-gay law, and I'm sure some of you have strong opinions (on either side).

Don't see anyone else touching the subject so far, so here goes...


In the Netherlands, there are those who strongly believe the Winter Olympics should have been banned because of said legislation. Others believe sports and politics are two different fields of play, and should be seen separately. This goes for both the average bystander as well as for our athletes. None of them have been given strict orders not to express their points of view on the subject, but most of them choose to ignore the matter (as much as possible) and focus on their own achievements. A lot can be said for that. After all, they are athletes and not politicians.

So...should politicians speak out / speak out more? Should they be the ones to make/take a stand?

"Our" politicians believe it is best to address the subject by not ignoring it but encourage a dialogue about it. Of course, it takes two to tango so if Russia isn't talking... Anyway, this is why our Prime Minister as well as our Secretary of Sports and our King and Queen will be visiting Sochi this month. Many in our country believe this is too much of a good thing.

As for me: I'm sure staying away will impress the Russians much....NOT!  ::) OTOH, sending four "big shots" feels like overkill to me. So I'm undecided. :-\\

Posted by: Henk at February 05, 2014, 06:00:56 AM. There are 19 responses

The Everyday Sexism Project


 

I just watched this video and I thought, since there's been a pretty serious discussion going on in the Just Plain Funny Pictures thread about this very thing, that I would post the video here. 

http://www.upworthy.com/if-you-know-someone-who-doesnt-believe-sexism-exists-show-them-this



Posted by: snozberries at June 20, 2013, 04:40:24 PM. There are 4 responses

Thoughts on the second amendment

Lets start with the NRA assertion that the 2nd amendment is not  about hunting.  Agreed, but its not about overthrowing the gov't either, in fact, attempting to do so is treason.  The Preamble says "...insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense..." 

At the time it was written, and until after the Civil War, there was  no standing army, so how was that to be done?  The obvious answer was through state militias, and up to the mid 1830's  in most states, every able bodies man between 16 and  60 was required to serve, provide his own weapon, and to drill on a regular basis.  Note that most Civil war regiments were raised by the states, not the fed. gov't. 

One of the reasons the constitution was written was because under the Articles of Confederation the central gov't had no power to "insure domestic tranquility" and several states face popular uprisings, the most famous of which was Shays Rebellion in Mass. (Danial Sheys and his followers were members of the Mass. Militia). And centralizing the power to intervene was shown to be effective when militias from Virginia were used to put down the Whiskey Rebellion in Penn.

Claims to the effect that the purpose of the second amendment  is to protect the populous from "tyranny" from the gov't are absurd.  They suggest that those "rich and well born" gentlemen Hamilton referred to in the Federalist Papers and who wrote the document were providing the masses with a vehicle  to overturn the system they had so carefully constructed to protect their own interests. That strikes me as pure fantasy.

So what is the contemporary purpose of the 2nd amendment?  Beats me

Posted by: Don Carlos at May 12, 2013, 11:05:44 AM. There are 44 responses

"Coming out" in pro sports

Almost everywhere in America & Canada, the long-held intolerance toward gays is disappearing. We have openly gay actors, gay politicians, gay teachers etc... We have gay marriage in several US states & Canadian provinces.

Sports, on the other hand, isn’t so welcoming.  There has been the odd athlete who has come out and said they’d support an openly gay teammate, but that’s not quite the same as opening it’s doors to them is it. 

Even though I’d be considered a “religious” person to most people here, I would not have an issue if every single person on my team were gay but me.

So…what gives here? Will it take a very famous athlete to come out, and start the ball rolling towards acceptance?

Posted by: warped at April 15, 2013, 07:10:32 AM. There are 29 responses

FatIsm....why do people think it's okay?


I am an fat, black woman..... Much as the phrase pains me, I am morbidly obese.

I rarely hear people make fun of other people because they are of a certain race or gender. I mean, I guess you get the occasional 'because you're a woman' remark but really it's not so straight forward or in your face when it comes to your race or gender.  But people seem to have no problem jumping to the fat jokes and making comments as though you can't hear them.

I can count the number of times I felt I was treated inappropriately because I'm black on one hand.
I can't even think of a time I was blatantly chastised for being female
I can't begin to tell you how man times I have heard comments about my weight.


I was in line at an amusement park- last time I went because I refuse to go again until I lose weight. Two guys inline behind me decided to make sounds like the earth was shaking every time I took a step. It was humiliating and the whole time I wanted to turn and tell them off but I was with a friend and I couldn't tell if she was aware of it- I don't think she was- and I didn't want to go into the details with her so I just tried to ignore it but that was 10 yrs ago and it still hurts like it happened 5 minutes ago.

Once I was running to enter a store and some guy driving in another lane - let me preface this by saying he pulled out of a parking space  row away from me and and needed to go right to get out of the parking lot- instead he turned left, circled around and pulled up beside me so his friend could point and laugh 'Oh my god it can run'

Why is it okay to just make fun of people because they have oases they're struggling to deal with?  No one is fat by choice. If it were as simple as diet and exercise we'd all be skinny but there are a multitude of reasons for obesity (part of it is I like to eat and I hate to work out but also part of it is I ate to soothe pain I didn't want to address.

  Either way it shouldn't matter if a person is fat or not we still feel so why go out of your way to to be mean on that particular level.

I guess what I'm saying is I'm sick of fat jokes. It's not funny I don't care who you're talking about.  >:(


Posted by: snozberries at February 22, 2012, 03:24:34 PM. There are 312 responses

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