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The "Urban" label

So, I have meant to discuss this topic for quite some time now, but I haven't had the chance because I had a busy schedule for the last few weeks. I noticed that over the years, whenever a black musician becomes mainstream, that person is automatically placed either into the Hip-Hop or R&B tag. However, what the music industry doesn't seem to understand is that what if that same artist ends up deciding to do something else other than R&B or Hip-hop? It appears that they don't even get a choice.

It just seems weird since not all African-Americans sing R&B songs or even rap. Besides, before hip-hop was even a genre, black artists were into everything from Rock and country to jazz and easy-listening tracks. Caucasians, Latinos, Asians, etc. also produce Hip-hop songs as well as R&B, but for some reason, the industry labels their songs as "pop." Last, R&B stands for Rhythm and Blues which derived from the second term. It honestly doesn't make any sense. Now, I'm aware that are African-American musicians who are or were not branded as R&B or Hip-hop by the music business, but there is a minimal of them. Michael Jackson, B.B King, Black Eyed Peas, Jason Derulo, Darius Rucker, and Khalid are a few black musicians who made music outside the urban title and even received tons of appeal from a broad audience. It's frankly a bummer that black artists are considered Hip-hop/R&B by the industry while the non-black musicians are not. In the end, music is music. The record labels shouldn't define it by ethnicity, but instead talented, passionate, and enthusiastic people. That's who gets the job done. BTW, I will link two articles down below so anyone who is interested can get a glimpse of my OP.

http://www.thefader.com/2014/09/12/popping-off-fka-twigs-beyonce-alt-r-and-b

https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/black-musicians-on-being-boxed-in-by-randb-and-rap-expectations-we-fit-in-so-many-things/

Posted by: NerdyGamer at May 05, 2018, 11:35:49 PM. There are 50 responses

How much of your shopping is online?

I'm facing a bit of a dilemma. I've always been the "support local businesses" kind of person. I would never shop at chain stores, always preferred the local mom and pop shop. Support the local economy, keep your neighbourhood's character, etc.

But 2017 is making it too convenient to drop this habit. Amazon Prime is finally a decent deal here in Canada. Before I would get two day shipping without then need for Prime since I lived 30 minutes away from the warehouse. But this year they introduced same-day shipping, so we finally signed up for Prime. Now I just can't help but do a lot of my shopping online. Instead of taking a 30 minute-2 hour detour to the store, I just order it online, particularly for much cheaper items ($5-$20 range), and it's at my doorstep by the time I get home or the next morning.

I do about 70% of my shopping online now. In 2016, it was maybe 10%.

At the moment, I've been planning on making some purchases on Amazon, but I feel a bit guilty. I want to buy a Nintendo Switch, and it's in my Amazon cart at the moment, but I think to the local video game store near me and their owners who've been so kind to me over the years. Same for a protein powder I need to buy: the lady at the nutrition store really helped me in picking out one that was jut right for me. I can easily buy these things online, but I feel like I'm "betraying" my local stores. They close at, like, 7PM, but if I order that stuff from Amazon now, those items could be at my door the next morning.

Online shopping is incredibly convenient and it's only going to get better. But I fear the loss of that personal touch and the relationships formed that that goes into shopping at local stores, as inconvenient or expensive as it is.  :(

Posted by: Slowpoke at December 18, 2017, 09:48:37 PM. There are 55 responses

Tragedies of the 2000s (They didn't feel as bad as the 2010s)

The 2000s were a odd decade growing up....
It featured many things that changed America, and impacted people to who they are today in many ways. But the beginning of the decade things looked very very bright. Coming of a boom period, some thought what could go wrong. Well.... at first plenty. I'll pretty much only discuss the most notables I can think of off the top of my head.


The dot.com bubble bust took place in mid 2000, Bush became president and was viewed as a laughingstock and incompetent leader pre 9/11. Then.... on September 11th, at the world trade center in NYC; the twin towers came crashing down thanks to an horrific terrorist attack on our nation. In 2003, it was decided we were going to war in Iraq. We witnessed several natural disasters in the mid 2000s such as Tsunami of 2004 and Hurricane Katrina in 2005. In 2007 at Virgin a Tech college, a Chinese gunman opened fired and killed many students and some faculty. It ended up being the deadliest, school shooting RIGHT behind the Bath school massacre in 1927. In 2008 the economy had a crash ;reading to the worst times since the great depression.  :o


Those tragedies that I discussed impacted lives and even changed america's identity and perception to a degree. But.... it feels like they are NOTHING compared to what's been going on the past few years. In the early part of the decade you had the Fort Hood shooting and Trayvon Martin's death. But... then in later in 2012 things started to change. You had the Colorado Theater Massacre, Hurricane Sandy, and then the Sandy Hook elementary shooting, :\'( :\'( :\'( ! Then it felt like a relative quite year in 2013 until 2014 saw the rise of ISIS, ebola, the deaths of Eric Garner and Mike Brown which divided people and started changing society again. In 2015 things really started getting crazy with the SJWs, feminazis, overly PC crap, Church shooting in Carolina,Freddie Gray shooting, race issues here in my town of Missouri, San Barnadino  and then the Paris attacks in Brussles etc. and 2016 things have reached a boiling point. We have seen too many tragedies within DAYS or WEEKS from each other. Pulse night club shooting, black men are getting shot and killed by the cops AGAIN, and recently there has been a tragedy in France where 84 people got killed and over 200 being critical.

Despite the tragedies that happened in the 00s, the times seemed better to live in than the current era.

It seemed like in the 2000s issues dealt with political stuff such as 9/11, post 9/11 patriotism, war on terror, Iraq, backlash against bush, economics etc. This decade seems to deal more with personal issues such as race relations, random terrorists attacks, random shootings, black men being killed by police, Political Correctness, SJWs, extreme feminism, LGBT movement/issues etc.

People may have talked all kinds of sh*t about the 2000s but the 2010s make the decade seem like utopia.....

Posted by: MistaEazy-EMAN95 at July 15, 2016, 11:29:32 PM. There are 110 responses

The "newer is better" mentality towards technology.

I find there are quite a few people who push the idea that everything that's new in technology is automatically better than any old technology. And whenever someone expresses any liking for things like Vinyl or 35mm film, they disregard them as being "blinded by nostalgia". Personally, I don't agree with this mindset. Sure there are many ways that newer technology is an obvious improvement over older technology. But as a movie guy, I really disagree with the idea of completely abandoning 35mm cameras. At least not during the current state of digital cinema.

While digital cinema has advanced over the years, it's still hasn't quite captured that "film" look. When I see movies nowadays, many of them seem colorless and empty. To quote Christopher Nolan, it's like watching "television in public". I'm not against the use of digital film. In fact, that's what got me into studying film. However, I'm against the idea of completely abandoning something that still works, just because it's older. And let's be honest, digital cinema is still a developing art form. While it has been around for a long time, it's only been very recently, that many companies have decided to go full-on digital.

Perhaps a day will come where digital film will finally be able to truly capture that "film feel", and it will truly replace 35mm film. However, that does not seem to be the case in 2015 (and likely won't anytime soon). I feel like we should embrace both formats. We have to acknowledge the fact that technology is changing, digital film is really taking off now. And it seems to be a great starting point for filmmakers in training, since it has more accessibility and is cheaper. So it does have some advantages over 35mm film. At the same time, we have to acknowledge that 35mm film still has a few advantages over digital cinema, from an artistic perspective. Therefore, it still has a place in the world of movies. Right now, there's room for both digital cinema and film cinema.

Then there's the whole digital vs analog debate over music. Once again, I feel like there's room for both. Many people are getting into vinyl again, but digital sales are still on the rise. People shouldn't disregard other people's choices. They should acknowledge that each person has their preference and that both formats have their advantages and disadvantages.

Posted by: musicguy93 at December 05, 2015, 03:33:12 PM. There are 21 responses

A Fourth wave of feminism?

Do you think for the past couple years we've been in a fourth wave of feminism? I've heard a lot about women's issues lately, particularly the concept of rape culture and cyberbullying. I think much of it has to do with women being harassed on the internet.

I had never even heard terms like "trigger warning" until 2012 or 2013. Anecdotally it seems like the teens and younger 20 somethings today are more likely to identify as feminists than women in their 30s. Before this decade started it seemed like people were weary of being thought of as feminist or politically correct while now it's increasingly seen as something to be proud of.

Actually come to think of it the whole Internet "Social justice warrior" thing was not even a big thing until maybe 3 years ago. i wonder if Occupy Wall Street is what brought it to the fore. The idea of white privilege was also not as widely known.

Posted by: winteriscoming at October 21, 2014, 12:35:19 PM. There are 116 responses

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