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Subject: remakes
Constant remakes of old songs only proves a point that songs which are forty years old are still popular.
Forty years on will anyone remember some of the songs of today.
Subject: Re: remakes
The curious thing too, is that many "old" hits are actually the 10th cover of a song from 1900. Biggest difference I see is that a) lots of songs in the '40s and around then were "covers", I'd wager more than today, and b) pretty much everyone knew they were covers, and loved them anyway. If anyone admitted they were doing a song from the '50s now, they'd likely get laughed out of the park. We are very narrow-minded. We've become too obsessed w/"what's new" - and not just in music. Music is music, good is good and bad is bad. At least, IMHO! ;)
Subject: Re: remakes
I agree whole heartedly, rebel. Music today isn't music...it requires no musical talent, but instead, a fast enough computer...
Subject: Re: remakes
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I agree whole heartedly, rebel. Music today isn't music...it requires no musical talent, but instead, a fast enough computer...
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And I say you're listening to the wrong music. There is talent out there, and good music too, and wonderful lyrics, if you know where to look. Now, if you compare the "pop" from way back when to what's out there now, I'll agree with you, the boy bands and american idols, the hot little barbie wanna-bees bore me to tears, but then, except for a brief laspse in my teen years, I've never gone with what's hot on the charts.
Heck, with computers, anyone can be a professional photographer or artist or muscician, but true talent will always exist, sometimes you just have to go out of your box to find it.
Subject: Re: remakes
Ah, I didn't really mean to say no1 has any talent. I think there is talent out there. My main issue (at least here) was w/regular Joe.
Point being that people in my gen (and maybe a little earlier, too) are fixated on what's "new" - i.e., it has to be "up to date". Anything even based on old lots of times gets a smirk and a "that's ooolld (yuck)" condescending remark.
But then, I'm biased myself. I tend to love old things. Sometimes at the expense of new. :)
Subject: Re: remakes
I'll agree with you there, but only under the clarification that talented performers today are the exception, not the norm. With few exceptions, music today has become a study in economic demographics, not about music. Get five guys together, give them some singing and dancing lessons, put a computerized track behind them, stand them up in front of a bunch of hormone crazed teenage girls, and watch the cash roll in. Where's the talent in that?
You can tell this is true for one simple fact: the groups die out. Bubble gum will eventually lose its flavor. 98 Degrees, the Spice Girls, O-Town...etc etc...need I say more?
But Earth Wind and Fire is still cool! People still dance when Superfreak comes on!
Subject: Re: remakes
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I'll agree with you there, but only under the clarification that talented performers today are the exception, not the norm. With few exceptions, music today has become a study in economic demographics, not about music. Get five guys together, give them some singing and dancing lessons, put a computerized track behind them, stand them up in front of a bunch of hormone crazed teenage girls, and watch the cash roll in. Where's the talent in that?
You can tell this is true for one simple fact: the groups die out. Bubble gum will eventually lose its flavor. 98 Degrees, the Spice Girls, O-Town...etc etc...need I say more?
But Earth Wind and Fire is still cool! People still dance when Superfreak comes on!
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Again, you are only looking at pop. What about Jazz? And Blues? Folk? Alternative? Rock? Punk? The non-chart toppers. Somehow, I don't think bubble gum will lose it's flavor. It's been around for at least 40 years. The 90s had NSYNC (spelling?) the 80s had The New Kids on the Block. Guess what? The 1960s had the Monkees. The Monkees were a bubble gum boy band. They weren't picked for their musical talent (though, in my opinion, they did prove to have it. I do not mean to put down the Monkees, I actually like them a lot, and they are the first group I ever saw in concert).
Rebel, you're right, a large amount of people tend to go for what's new, not just with music, but with everything, cars, computers, clothes... Humans tend to be pack animals, and they like to follow the trend because being different is "bad". Like I said, I was never too fond of the pop charts. When I was 13 and all my little teenie-bopper friends were freaking out over Menudo, I was hooked on Violent Femmes. I also love the music from the 50s and 60s (thanks to my parents being big music freaks). And I'll admit, I'm a snob, I can't think of any friend I have who owns a Brittany Spears (see I don't think I even spelled her name right) album, and if I found out one did, I think I would lose respect for them... I would at least shudder evertime I saw them...
Subject: Re: remakes
True, Bubble Gum has been around for 40 years, but as I said, it does lose its flavor. Menudo is a prime example. The group still exists in South America as MDO, but it has switched members countless times...proving that once the bubble gum loses its flavor, you spit it out and find a new piece. We've gone from the Monkees to the Jackson 5 to the Go Gos to Menudo to New Edition to Wham to New Kids On The Block (shudder) to the Spice Girls to N*Sync...as long as kids keep chewing bubble gum, it keeps going...and the beat goes on...
But you are correct. Outside of pop, talent does exist. It's rarely put into the spotlight, as it proves to be less luctrative for the record companies than five guys dancing in unison...
Subject: Re: remakes
You know something,I highly doubt it.I will be close to 70 years old.I don't think I'll be able to remember Brittney Spears,N'Sync,Backstreet Boys and Sakira. -howard- ;)
Subject: Re: remakes
True...they will not be remembered, but pop stars rarely are. I hope that the next musical 'invention' brings about a more impressive change.
Subject: Re: remakes
I think it's impossible to predict what's going to last and what's going to fall by the wayside.
I think someone like Madonna will sink into an obscure pit with the likes of Mae West and Mamie van Doren; her popularity will confound people a hundred years from now.
On the other hand, there are a number of major artists who should outlive their generation, even if they aren't chart-toppers -- Steve Earle, Loudon Wainwright III, Tom Waits, Richard Thompson.
Subject: Re: remakes
As Bob Seger said, "Today's music ain't got the same soul. Just give me that old time rock-n-roll."
Cat
Subject: Re: remakes
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I'll agree with you there, but only under the clarification that talented performers today are the exception, not the norm. With few exceptions, music today has become a study in economic demographics, not about music. Get five guys together, give them some singing and dancing lessons, put a computerized track behind them, stand them up in front of a bunch of hormone crazed teenage girls, and watch the cash roll in. Where's the talent in that?
You can tell this is true for one simple fact: the groups die out. Bubble gum will eventually lose its flavor. 98 Degrees, the Spice Girls, O-Town...etc etc...need I say more?
But Earth Wind and Fire is still cool! People still dance when Superfreak comes on!
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Didn't Rick James do Superfreak?
Subject: Re: remakes
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Didn't Rick James do Superfreak?
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Yes.
howard :D