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Subject: Mamas & Papas question

Written By: CeramicsFanatic on 03/13/03 at 01:58 p.m.

Hi!

I was wondering if anybody could tell me what the name of the song is where The Mamas & The Papas sing following line:


"And no one's getting fat except Mama Cass"


Any information is much appreciated!  :D

Subject: Re: Mamas & Papas question

Written By: Crazy Don on 03/13/03 at 02:08 p.m.

Karen, the name of that song is "Creeque Alley."  (Creeque is pronounced "creaky," BTW.)

Subject: Re: Mamas & Papas question

Written By: CeramicsFanatic on 03/13/03 at 05:02 p.m.

Thank you so much, Don.  I'm going to see if I can download it now.  It's been so long since I've heard it!  :)

Subject: Re: Mamas & Papas question

Written By: schmartypantz on 03/15/03 at 09:46 a.m.

That's a good tune..they were a great group with a lot of songs..did not stay together very long though..John had alot of talent.

Subject: Re: Mamas & Papas question

Written By: folcroc on 03/16/03 at 03:22 p.m.

Great harmony. California Dreamin and Never Rains In Southern California! FAR OUT!

Subject: Re: Mamas & Papas question

Written By: CatwomanofV on 03/16/03 at 05:01 p.m.


Quoting:
Great harmony. California Dreamin and Never Rains In Southern California! FAR OUT!
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I don't remember them doing "It Never Rains in Southern California." I love California Dreamin' though. I once heard a high school group do that song and they were really amazing. They sounded A LOT like the Mama & the Papas.



Cat

Subject: Re: Mamas & Papas question

Written By: RockandRollFan on 03/17/03 at 07:51 a.m.


Quoting:



I don't remember them doing "It Never Rains in Southern California." I love California Dreamin' though. I once heard a high school group do that song and they were really amazing. They sounded A LOT like the Mama & the Papas.



Cat
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Indeed Cat, Albert Hammond sang "It Never Rains In Southern California" in 1973....

Subject: Re: Mamas & Papas question

Written By: folcroc on 03/17/03 at 02:06 p.m.

Starts out..."Got on board a west bound 747,
                 didn't think before deciding what to do"

Maybe I have the title wrong. Its one of their biggest hits



Subject: Re: Mamas & Papas question

Written By: RockandRollFan on 03/17/03 at 02:42 p.m.

Quoting:
Starts out..."Got on board a west bound 747,
                 didn't think before deciding what to do"

Maybe I have the title wrong. Its one of their biggest hits

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Artist is Albert Hammond...1972-73...here is the story and the lyrics.....:

(Albert Hammond, Mike Hazlewood)

recorded by:

Albert Hammond (It never rains in Southern California, 1972)
background information:

US #5 for Albert Hammond in 1972

Albert Hammond (writer, recording artist): It never rains... was written in London, before we came to Los Angeles, and we knew we were coming, and I've been telling Mike the story of me in Spain when I started and how I was asking for money outside of the train stations because I had no money to eat and I didn't want to tell my parents. My cousin was on honeymoon then, and he came out of the train station and saw me, and I didn't even know it was him... I just asked him for some money, too. And he said "you should be ashamed, I'm gonna tell your father", and I said "please, don't tell him, he'll go crazy and and stop me doing this!" And then he took me back into the hotel, I had a bath, he gave me some clean clothes and some money. I moved on, but he did tell my father, you know. All these things like "will you tell the folks back home I nearly made it" and all that stuff came from that era of my life when I was struggling, trying to make it, trying to get from Morocco to Spain, from Spain to England, from England to America... That struggle you go through, that's It never rains in Southern California, the story of my life. (Albert on the telephone with Reto, Copyright ©2002 by Reto)

Albert Hammond (writer, recording artist): not just started my solo career, but also established it. For me, it's one of my most important songs not only because I think it's a great song and I love it and I think it tells the story of my life in a way, but also because I was the artist, the producer, the writer - I mean, everything was right, it was just like the right thing. If I hadn't had that, I might have got slowly downhill, you know. (Albert on the telephone with Reto, Copyright ©2002 by Reto)



In fond memory of lyricist Michael "Mike" Hazlewood

song lyrics as performed by Albert Hammond:


Got on board a westbound seven-forty-seven
Didn't think before deciding what to do
All that talk of opportunities
TV breaks and movies
Rang true, sure rang true

Seems it never rains in Southern California
Seems I've often heard that kind of talk before
It never rains in California
But, girl, don't they warn ya
It pours, man, it pours

Out of work, I'm out of my head
Out of self-respect, I'm out of bread
I'm underloved, I'm underfed
I wanna go home

It never rains in California
But, girl, don't they warn ya
It pours, man, it pours

Will you tell the folks back home I nearly made it
Had offers but don't know which one to take
Please, don't tell them how you found me
Don't tell them how you found me
Gimme a break, gimme a break

Seems it never rains in Southern California
Seems I've often heard that kind of talk before
It never rains in California
But, girl, don't they warn ya
It pours, man, it pours



Subject: Re: Mamas & Papas question

Written By: FolkRoc on 03/18/03 at 02:13 p.m.

And recorded by the group we were talkin about, like I said above

ROCK ON!

Subject: Re: Mamas & Papas question

Written By: FolcRoc on 03/18/03 at 04:05 p.m.

My bad I guess. It's listed at Ka-Zaa several diff places as Mamas and Papas. Did Neil Diamond do this song?

ROCK ON

Subject: Re: Mamas & Papas question

Written By: Marian on 03/18/03 at 05:56 p.m.

:D :D :D :D :Dthe title creeque alley isn't mentioned in the song.Cheers! ::) ???

Subject: Re: Mamas & Papas question

Written By: FussBudgetVanPelt on 03/19/03 at 06:08 a.m.


Quoting:
My bad I guess. It's listed at Ka-Zaa several diff places as Mamas and Papas. Did Neil Diamond do this song?

ROCK ON
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Hey FolcRoc !

Believing what you see on KaZaa is worse than believing what you read in the paper !

I was keeping a list of incorrect artists versus song titles at one stage becuase I was just so amazed at the assumptions people had made regarding who was singing.

Now to see if I can find it anywhere.....

I agree with the above - definitely Albert Hammond - definitely NOT Mamas & Papas - and I severley doubt Neil Diamond either....

FB  :)

Subject: Re: Mamas & Papas question

Written By: Zella on 03/19/03 at 07:33 a.m.

And I have to contradict Mark (sorry) -- it was 1972, not 1973. November/December so it is possible it still got a bit of airplay in January. I bought the record just before Christmas.

Albert Hammond was IMHO, one of the best singer/songwriters of the 70s. It is a shame he did not get more airplay....

Check out:

Down By the River (1972)
If You're Gonna Break Another Heart (1973)
Free Electric Band (1973)
Half a Million Miles from Home (1973)
I'm a Train (1974)
Ninety Nine Miles from LA (1974)
Air Disaster (1975?)

He also wrote the Pipkins hit: Gimme Dat Ding.

Subject: Re: Mamas & Papas question

Written By: FolcRoc on 03/19/03 at 02:20 p.m.

Tried Down By The River but have to say that I like Neil Young"s song by same title much better. Ever heard it on the tail end of the re-released 4 Way Street? The beginning of "The Loner" absolutely sends chills up and down my spine. When Crosby or Stills says " Neil Young man..." to loud applause it is such a fitting finale.

CSNY RULED

 

Subject: Re: Mamas & Papas question

Written By: Magic on 03/22/03 at 03:53 p.m.

Just seeing this thead,it really brings me back. One of the favorite songs of mine is,"California Dreamin". 8)

I have their album still someplace around here,and have it also on tape as I always would tape the album,then put the album away ;)

Subject: Re: Mamas & Papas question

Written By: RockandRollFan on 03/23/03 at 03:00 p.m.


Quoting:
Just seeing this thead,it really brings me back. One of the favorite songs of mine is,"California Dreamin". 8)

I have their album still someplace around here,and have it also on tape as I always would tape the album,then put the album away ;)
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I still listen to my LP copy of it as well....also love the video for it on VH-1 Classic ;)