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Subject: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/03/15 at 6:25 am

In the past week you may have seen your friends on Twitter and Facebook discuss an interview in which Ringo Starr reportedly reveals the real Paul McCartney died in 1966.

Meaning that everything from Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band onwards was not performed by him

The 'interview' claims that Beatles bassist Paul McCartney died in a car crash and was replaced by a look-alike in order to keep public morale from dropping.

This has long been a relatively popular conspiracy theory, but has - until recently - bubbled away in dark corners of the internet, disregarded as nothing more than just a conspiracy.

That was until last week, when a number of websites reported on an 'exclusive Ringo Starr interview' in which the former Beatles drummer admitted the conspiracy is true.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/usvsth3m/ringo-starr-just-admit-real-5260576


Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/03/15 at 6:26 am

Well, the lookalike cannot sing today!

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/03/15 at 6:37 am

The clues are there:
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

1) The foreground scene on the front cover shows a floral arrangement, as if for a funeral. The white flowers on the bottom right either form a left-handed bass guitar (Paul's instrument), or they spell out Paul.

2) "Beatles" is spelled out in red flowers on the cover. But there's an extra letter, an "o" that is mysteriously placed at the end of the name. Perhaps the band was sending a secret message: Be At Leso. Leso was the name of a Greek Island that they had supposedly bought. Were they inviting fans who had figured out the mystery to join them there?


3) A toy Aston Martin convertible can be seen on the lap of a rag doll on the right-hand side of the cover. Paul supposedly died in an Aston Martin.


4) If you use a mirror to bisect the phrase "LONELY HEARTS" that appears on the drum, the phrase "I ONE IX HE ◊ DIE" can be seen. If "I ONE" is 11, and "IX" is the roman numeral 9, then this might be decoded to mean "11 9 HE DIE" (i.e. November 9, He Die).


5) A hand is held up behind Paul's head, a raised hand being a mystical symbol of death. (In some religions, it actually is.) A hand raised behind Paul's head is a recurring clue in many photos of the band.


6) On the back cover Paul is wearing an arm patch that says "OPD," which is British police jargon for "Officially Pronounced Dead." (The patch actually reads "OPP," which stands for Ontario Provincial Police. Paul was given the patch while on tour in Canada.)


Magical Mystery Tour

7) If you look at the starry letters of the Beatles name in a mirror, or upside down, they supposedly form a phone number. If you call this number, someone will answer and provide another clue. Or perhaps William Campbell himself will answer. This clue inspired an urban legend alleging that a student dialed the secret phone number and reached someone who quizzed him about Beatles trivia. The student answered all the questions correctly and was then told he had won a trip to Pepperland. He subsequently received a letter instructing him to lick the stamp on the envelope. When he did so, he experienced an LSD trip. While under the influence of the LSD, he jumped out of his dorm room to his death.

8.) Paul is wearing a walrus suit on the cover. This is significant because Walrus means Corpse in Greek. (Actually, it doesn't.)

9) The song "I am the Walrus" is supposedly about Paul's death. The lyrics "Stupid bloody tuesday" refer to the last time Paul was seen alive. And the eggman refers to Humpty Dumpty, who cracked his head open, as did Paul.

10) At the end of Strawberry Fields, the voice of John Lennon can be heard saying "I buried Paul." (John does say something at the end of the song, but it's not "I buried Paul." He says "cranberry sauce.")

The White Album

11) One of the images on the poster inside the album shows Paul soaking in a tub of water. Many people have commented that it kind of looks like Paul's decapitated head floating in blood.

12) The song "Glass Onion" contains the lyric "looking through a glass onion." The DJ Russ Gibb claims that "glass onion" was old british slang for the handle of a casket, because in the nineteenth century caskets had round glass handles that looked like glass onions. Paul is looking through a glass onion because he's in a casket.

13) If you play the song "Revolution 9" backwards, you will hear the words "Turn me on, dead man" being spoken. (It's true, you will... or, at least, you'll hear a phrase that sounds a lot like "Turn me on, dead man.")

Abbey Road

14) On the cover John, Ringo, Paul, and George are walking across a zebra crossing. Fans argue that this represents a funeral procession. John (in white) is the priest, Ringo (in black) is the undertaker, Paul (barefoot... because people are supposedly buried barefoot in Italy) is the corpse, and George (in jeans) is the gravedigger. It's also believed to be significant that Paul is out of step with the others, and that he's holding a cigarette in his right hand (because the original Paul was left-handed). Finally, it's said that this picture was taken at the site where Paul crashed his car on November 8, and that the Beatles are shown walking out of a cemetery which is located on the left side of the street. (In reality, there's no cemetery there.)


15) Also on the cover, a white volkswagen can be seen parked in the background. Its license plate reads "28 IF." This could mean that Paul would have been 28 if he were alive. (He actually would have been 27.) This Volkswagen was tracked down years later and sold at auction in 1986 for over $4000.

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Howard on 03/03/15 at 1:11 pm

http://d817ypd61vbww.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/styles/media_responsive_widest/public/tile/image/SgtPepper.jpg?itok=mqi475Zr

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: aja675 on 03/03/15 at 7:30 pm

Is it confirmed?

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: 80sfan on 03/03/15 at 8:27 pm

Coool.  :)

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/03/15 at 8:29 pm

I wish to hear Paul McCartney's side on this, but of course he will deny it.

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/03/15 at 8:31 pm

So now, technically, Ringo Starr is the only surviving member of The Beatles?

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: 80sfan on 03/03/15 at 8:35 pm


So now, technically, Ringo Starr is the only surviving member of The Beatles?


Why? Goooood! Why?????!!!!!

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: aja675 on 03/03/15 at 8:35 pm


Is it confirmed?

I read that it was fake.

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: CatwomanofV on 03/04/15 at 11:46 am

I have been thinking about this and IF and I repeat IF it is true, then the person we all know as Paul McCartney has a lot of talent. Ok, so he can't really sing anymore but the Sir Paul we know is the one who did the majority of the work that Sir Paul is known for-like being the lead singer of Wings and the guy who was stoned out of his mind when he sang this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqWlZ5IFatU


Cat

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Howard on 03/04/15 at 1:10 pm


I wish to hear Paul McCartney's side on this, but of course he will deny it.


But he's dead so he can't deny anything.

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Howard on 03/04/15 at 1:11 pm


So now, technically, Ringo Starr is the only surviving member of The Beatles?


I guess so.

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: CatwomanofV on 03/04/15 at 1:19 pm

Once again, this is a hoax:

http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/paulisdead.asp



Cat

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/04/15 at 8:28 pm


Once again, this is a hoax:

http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/paulisdead.asp



Cat
So has Ringo Starr replied back to this news?

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/04/15 at 8:29 pm


But he's dead so he can't deny anything.
I meant the imposter that is Paul McCartney!

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/04/15 at 8:34 pm


I have been thinking about this and IF and I repeat IF it is true, then the person we all know as Paul McCartney has a lot of talent. Ok, so he can't really sing anymore but the Sir Paul we know is the one who did the majority of the work that Sir Paul is known for-like being the lead singer of Wings and the guy who was stoned out of his mind when he sang this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqWlZ5IFatU


Cat
The beard to disguise the shape of the face?

On the album cover of Abbey Road, 28 IF, 28 if still alive?

http://ludix.com/moriarty/images/28if.jpg

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Howard on 03/05/15 at 1:38 pm


I meant the imposter that is Paul McCartney!


Somebody that looked like Paul? ???

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Howard on 03/05/15 at 1:40 pm


The beard to disguise the shape of the face?

On the album cover of Abbey Road, 28 IF, 28 if still alive?

http://ludix.com/moriarty/images/28if.jpg


What's LMW stand for?

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/05/15 at 5:55 pm


What's LMW stand for?
It is car licence place, technically the letters and numbers are random, and are allotted to that car, but if this place was especially made for the photoshoot... ?

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: loki 13 on 03/05/15 at 6:04 pm


What's LMW stand for?


Linda McCartney Weeps.

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: CatwomanofV on 03/05/15 at 6:15 pm


Linda McCartney Weeps.



Nice try but they didn't get married until 1969.



Cat

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Paul on 03/06/15 at 5:16 am

Don't know about the man himself, but his career's been dead since the 80's...

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/06/15 at 5:55 am



Nice try but they didn't get married until 1969.



Cat

Linda McCartney Weeps.
Possible for Paul married Linda Eastman on March 12th 1969, and the photoshoot for the Abbey Road album cover was taken on August 8th 1969.

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/06/15 at 5:56 am


Don't know about the man himself, but his career's been dead since the 80's...
Too true!

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Howard on 03/06/15 at 7:37 am


Don't know about the man himself, but his career's been dead since the 80's...


What about his duets with Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder?

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: CatwomanofV on 03/06/15 at 10:55 am


Possible for Paul married Linda Eastman on March 12th 1969, and the photoshoot for the Abbey Road album cover was taken on August 8th 1969.



He was married to Linda when the album cover was taken but she wouldn't have been Linda McCartney if Paul died in 1966. He didn't even know Linda until 1967.

His earlier relationships don't pan out either: Dot Rhone & Jane Asher (he was living at her parents house in 1966). I thought that it could be his mother but her name is Mary.

So LMW must mean something else. 



Cat

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/06/15 at 6:39 pm



He was married to Linda when the album cover was taken but she wouldn't have been Linda McCartney if Paul died in 1966. He didn't even know Linda until 1967.

His earlier relationships don't pan out either: Dot Rhone & Jane Asher (he was living at her parents house in 1966). I thought that it could be his mother but her name is Mary.

So LMW must mean something else. 



Cat
So in other words, Linda married the imposter not Paul?

LMW = Linda Married Wrong ?

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: CatwomanofV on 03/06/15 at 6:42 pm


So in other words, Linda married the imposter not Paul?

LMW = Linda Married Wrong ?


Ok, that I'll buy. lol.



Cat

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/06/15 at 6:44 pm

Notes & Queries from the Guardian:

On the cover of the Beatles Abbey Road album there's a white VW Beetle pictured on the left with a license plate of LMW 281F? Who owned this bug and what happened to it. Did it go the way of the Beatles or the Beetles?

http://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,,-196009,00.html

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Howard on 03/07/15 at 6:58 am


Notes & Queries from the Guardian:

On the cover of the Beatles Abbey Road album there's a white VW Beetle pictured on the left with a license plate of LMW 281F? Who owned this bug and what happened to it. Did it go the way of the Beatles or the Beetles?

http://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,,-196009,00.html


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/42/Beatles_-_Abbey_Road.jpg

You mean the white car where George is standing? ???

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: bookmistress4ever on 03/07/15 at 4:01 pm


What's LMW stand for?


Lennon McCartney writers?

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/09/15 at 4:09 am


What's LMW stand for?
Liverpudlian Musician Wanted?

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/09/15 at 4:11 am


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/42/Beatles_-_Abbey_Road.jpg

You mean the white car where George is standing? ???
Yes, the white VW Beetle behind George Harrison.

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/09/15 at 4:11 am


Lennon McCartney writers?


Lennon Music n' Words

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Howard on 03/09/15 at 2:25 pm


Lennon Music n' Words


Linda McCartney Wanted?

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/09/15 at 2:41 pm



He was married to Linda when the album cover was taken but she wouldn't have been Linda McCartney if Paul died in 1966. He didn't even know Linda until 1967.

His earlier relationships don't pan out either: Dot Rhone & Jane Asher (he was living at her parents house in 1966). I thought that it could be his mother but her name is Mary.

So LMW must mean something else. 



Cat
It was also in 1966 The Beatles did stop performing live in concerts, turning to spell the time as a recording band only. Which does help the 'Paul is dead' theory for real Paul will no longer be seen live on stage playing the guitar, singing, etc, and the replacement will for appearances only.

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/13/15 at 1:41 pm


What's LMW stand for?
Lady Madonna Words

Any clues in the song?

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Redhairkid on 03/13/15 at 2:55 pm


Liverpudlian Musician Wanted?


Good one!

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Howard on 03/13/15 at 3:28 pm


Lady Madonna Words

Any clues in the song?


I've got to hear it first.

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Howard on 03/13/15 at 3:29 pm


Lady Madonna Words

Any clues in the song?


or Lady Madonna Wanted?

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: bookmistress4ever on 03/15/15 at 12:25 am

LMW

Late McCartney Waits (Waits means musicians employed to play on ceremonial occasions)

Late McCartney winkler (Winkler means one who extracts or forces something out little by little)

Late McCartney wayment (Wayment means lamentation; grief)

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Howard on 03/15/15 at 1:13 pm


LMW

Late McCartney Waits (Waits means musicians employed to play on ceremonial occasions)

Late McCartney winkler (Winkler means one who extracts or forces something out little by little)

Late McCartney wayment (Wayment means lamentation; grief)


Larry MCartney Waits?

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/15/15 at 1:14 pm


Larry MCartney Waits?
Who is Larry?

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/15/15 at 1:15 pm

Look-alike McCartney Wanted

Subject: Re: Ringo Starr admits that the 'real' Paul McCartney die and replaced by look-alike

Written By: Howard on 03/15/15 at 2:19 pm


Who is Larry?


It was just a made up name.

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