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Subject: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/12/06 at 3:32 pm

...There's just no escaping it.









Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: ultraviolet52 on 04/12/06 at 3:41 pm

I have always loved the Netherlands. Have you been to the Hague?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/12/06 at 3:49 pm


I have always loved the Netherlands. Have you been to the Hague?


Once or twice. I know I visited the Gemeentemuseum and the Houses of Parliament when I was about 16 years old. However, what impressed me most that day was my first visit ever to a McDonald's hamburger restaurant. ;D

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Howard on 04/12/06 at 3:51 pm

What's the weather there? ???

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: ultraviolet52 on 04/12/06 at 3:54 pm


Once or twice. I know I visited the Gemeentemuseum and the Houses of Parliament when I was about 16 years old. However, what impressed me most that day was my first visit ever to a McDonald's hamburger restaurant. ;D


;D lol, that's good about the McDonalds visit, lol. It always looked like a nice place to visit, The Hague, that is.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: danootaandme on 04/12/06 at 4:04 pm

I have some ancestors that were Dutch.  When they came to the USA in the 16 or 1700s they
didn't have last names, the last name was the name of the father, like maybe Jan Andreisson(Jan son of
Andreis). They were muscled into familial names by the English for record keeping purposes. 
Do they use family surnames now, or do they still use the patrinomic?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/12/06 at 4:05 pm


What's the weather there? ???


In general?  ???

Well, we have a sea climate, which means we get mild winters and mild summers. Which means the weather s*cks royally about 356 days of the year (the remaining 9 days a year are what we call "summer").

But seriously - we do get a lot of western winds, and because we're on the seashore it means it will seldomly get very hot or very cold. Of course there are a few exceptions: sometimes we get a "real" winter with the famous Eleven City Skating Tour, or we get a "real" summer (like in 2004). But mainly it's rather dull and predictable. :P

On the bright side: we don't have to worry about tornados or hurricanes.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/12/06 at 4:26 pm


I have some ancestors that were Dutch.  When they came to the USA in the 16 or 1700s they
didn't have last names, the last name was the name of the father, like maybe Jan Andreisson(Jan son of
Andreis). They were muscled into familial names by the English for record keeping purposes. 
Do they use family surnames now, or do they still use the patrinomic?


There's still plenty of people that go by a patrinomic, but they're all official surnames today. In fact, one of the most common surnames in The Netherlands (Jansen) is a patrinomic. It just means "Son of Jan (= John)".

I'm not entirely sure, but I think it was Napoleon who started the official registration.
People have also used their place of birth or profession for a surname (among others).

Off topic:
One of the surnames that always makes me smile is "Son

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Donnie Darko on 04/12/06 at 4:33 pm

Is Dutch similar to English?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: danootaandme on 04/12/06 at 4:40 pm


There's still plenty of people that go by a patrinomic, but they're all official surnames today. In fact, one of the most common surnames in The Netherlands (Jansen) is a patrinomic. It just means "Son of Jan (= John)".

I'm not entirely sure, but I think it was Napoleon who started the official registration.
People have also used their place of birth or profession for a surname (among others).

Off topic:
One of the surnames that always makes me smile is "Son

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Windbreaker05 on 04/12/06 at 5:36 pm

I've always liked Dutch chocolate. I think it's one of the top sorts I've tried. What are your feelings about the chocolate as compared to other sorts you've had?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: JamieMcBain on 04/12/06 at 5:46 pm

Have you ever been to Amsterdam?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: loki 13 on 04/12/06 at 6:06 pm

How is the beer? I don't drink alcohol anymore but when I did my favorite
beer was Grolsch. I know here in the States, the beer has to be pasturized
and the alcohol content has to be lowered, so I was wondering how good
is the beer? Is Grolsch made strictly for an American market, like Germany's
St. Pauli Girl? How about Heineken, though I was never a fan of Heineken or
Heineken Light (Amstel Light), is that strictly export? Just Curious.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: whistledog on 04/12/06 at 6:15 pm

There was a dance group in early 2000's (i believe) called Dutch Force who had a hit called "Deadline".  Are they from the Netherlands?  I can't find any info about them on the net

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Windbreaker05 on 04/12/06 at 6:42 pm

Sorry to throw another out before my first is answered, but this is something I actually have wondered but am too lazy to research myself ;)

Although it's less common at present, a few years ago it was very common for people in this country to simply say "Holland" when referring to The Netherlands as a whole. What is the relation of Holland to The Netherlands? What are the other "parts" of The Netherlands, for lack of a better term? No need to spend too much time on them, just interested because I really couldn't name others offhand.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Trimac20 on 04/12/06 at 8:03 pm

What are the Dutch girls like?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Sister Morphine on 04/12/06 at 8:03 pm

Does everyone have to wear those wooden shoes everywhere?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: La Roche on 04/12/06 at 9:08 pm

I have a few questions.

Firstly - Is Rafael Van Der Vaart - Rafael son of Vart? Is Vart a name?

Secondly - Is Jan Van Hoogenor of Hesselink named after both farming family's as I have been led to believe?

Thirdly - Have you ever been to the Panna tournament? I went and it was excellent. I was sitting at the same bar as Edgar Davids, he's actually a lot smaller than you would imagine.

Fourthly - Do you know a guy called Thuram Reynders? He owes me like 20 euros.

Fifth -  Do you like Gutn Beern? It's all I drink when I'm in Holland (well.. and everything else people will buy for me - It's just all I'll pay for) It's commonly known as 14.2 I think you can guess why  ;)

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: danootaandme on 04/13/06 at 6:46 am


I have a few questions.

Firstly - Is Rafael Van Der Vaart - Rafael son of Vart? Is Vart a name?



I'll weigh in on this.  When "Van Der" is in a name it means "of the"  Rafael Van Der Vaart would be
Rafael "of the" Vaart.  Now maybe Henk can explain Vaart

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: La Roche on 04/13/06 at 8:10 am


I'll weigh in on this.  When "Van Der" is in a name it means "of the"  Rafael Van Der Vaart would be
Rafael "of the" Vaart.  Now maybe Henk can explain Vaart


Maybe Vaart is a region then?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Trimac20 on 04/13/06 at 8:28 am

You have to at least answer peoples questions if you start an 'Ask me anything about ****' thread.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: danootaandme on 04/13/06 at 9:06 am


You have to at least answer peoples questions if you start an 'Ask me anything about ****' thread.


People do not have to answer this stuff 24/7, it's just not that important in the scheme of things.  It is the beauty of the internet that it can all wait until later.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/13/06 at 10:40 am


You have to at least answer peoples questions if you start an 'Ask me anything about ****' thread.



People do not have to answer this stuff 24/7, it's just not that important in the scheme of things.  It is the beauty of the internet that it can all wait until later.


Thank you.

There's also a time difference to consider. Plus I haven't got as much time on my hands as some of you lot. I promise I will answer all of your questions in due time.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/13/06 at 2:36 pm


Is Dutch similar to English?


This is a tough question. I'm not a linguist, so I can't give you a professional answer.

In my experience there are some difference between Dutch and English in the sentence structure (apart from the fact that Dutch and English have very little words in common  ;)). Other than that, I think it's basically the same - just a matter of translation.
As with all foreign languages, you're bound to make mistakes in the process of translating.
Sorry I can't be more specific than that... I have no expert knowledge on the subject and would probably end up using the wrong terms. :-\\

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/13/06 at 2:44 pm


I've always liked Dutch chocolate. I think it's one of the top sorts I've tried. What are your feelings about the chocolate as compared to other sorts you've had?


I eat very little chocolate, but when I do it's usually Dutch (occasionally Belgian, German or Swiss). I have no real preference when it comes to the country of origin, but I prefer white chocolate over any other sort (although strictly speaking, white chocolate isn't chocolate).

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/13/06 at 2:51 pm


Have you ever been to Amsterdam?


More times than I can count. I used to work there, you see, and I have actually lived there too for about six months.
I used to go walking in the Vondelpark with some of my colleagues during our lunch break, that is: until the office was moved. :(
On other occasions I went shopping in Amsterdam. I also visited Madame Tussaud's, but I've never been to the Rijksmuseum or the Concertgebouw.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/13/06 at 2:58 pm


How is the beer? I don't drink alcohol anymore but when I did my favorite
beer was Grolsch. I know here in the States, the beer has to be pasturized
and the alcohol content has to be lowered, so I was wondering how good
is the beer? Is Grolsch made strictly for an American market, like Germany's
St. Pauli Girl? How about Heineken, though I was never a fan of Heineken or
Heineken Light (Amstel Light), is that strictly export? Just Curious.


I don't drink at all, so I really can't answer your first question.
Grolsch and Heineken are available in shops and restaurants all over the country. They're the two leading beer brands, but there's plenty of other brands that you can buy almost anywhere too.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/13/06 at 3:01 pm

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Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/13/06 at 3:17 pm


Sorry to throw another out before my first is answered, but this is something I actually have wondered but am too lazy to research myself ;)

Although it's less common at present, a few years ago it was very common for people in this country to simply say "Holland" when referring to The Netherlands as a whole. What is the relation of Holland to The Netherlands? What are the other "parts" of The Netherlands, for lack of a better term? No need to spend too much time on them, just interested because I really couldn't name others offhand.


Hope this answers your question...

http://www.arthistoryclub.com/art_history/upload/thumb/e/e2/400px-Netherlands_map_large.png

As you can see (I hope), Holland (i.e. North and South Holland on the map) is only part of The Netherlands.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: whistledog on 04/13/06 at 3:29 pm

I have another question ... are the Dutch group '4 Strings' still popular in NL?  I have their CD 'Turn it Around' and I love it 8)

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: MERV SKILTON on 04/13/06 at 3:31 pm

Hey Henk..

Can I ride my motorcycle butt naked down the street without being busted?  ???

:) SUPPORT NUDE MOTORCYCLING  :)

Regards Merv  ;)

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/13/06 at 3:36 pm


What are the Dutch girls like?


That's another tough question. You see, there's no such thing as "the" Dutch girl. They're all different (and thank goodness for that).
Apart from that, I think you better ask a non-Dutch expert on the subject (and I'm neither a non-Dutch nor an expert).

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/13/06 at 3:44 pm

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Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Donnie Darko on 04/13/06 at 3:48 pm


Yes. It is in our constitution.




No, just kidding. ;) Wooden shoes are a part of our cultural heritage, but that doesn't mean everyone's still wearing them. I'm just guessing here, but I think only 2 in every 10,000 people are still wearing wooden shoes on a daily basis. That would make some 3,200 people in total. Personally, I don't know anybody who's still wearing wooden shoes.


Do most Dutch people speak English as well as Dutch?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/13/06 at 3:58 pm


I have a few questions.

Firstly - Is Rafael Van Der Vaart - Rafael son of Vart? Is Vart a name?


I'll weigh in on this.  When "Van Der" is in a name it means "of the"  Rafael Van Der Vaart would be
Rafael "of the" Vaart.  Now maybe Henk can explain Vaart


Thank you again.  :) "Vaart" is a Dutch word meaning something like "Canal". So it is very likely to assume that Rafaels ancestors lived nearby a canal.


Secondly - Is Jan Van Hoogenor of Hesselink named after both farming family's as I have been led to believe?


I assume you mean Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink, and I don't know anything about the origins of his double last name. I hope to give you a better answer later.

Modified to add:
In the region where Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink was born, it was the custom to name people after the location of their farm. But sometimes that wouldn't suffice, so they had to add a second name to distinguish one from another.
I found out that "Hesselink" means "Son of Hessel". I also know that "of" means "or". As for the first part of his name "Vennegoor" I'm not sure... it's most likely the name/designation/location of a farm that belonged to his ancestors, but I don't know what it means yet.


Thirdly - Have you ever been to the Panna tournament? I went and it was excellent. I was sitting at the same bar as Edgar Davids, he's actually a lot smaller than you would imagine.


I have never been there, nor have I ever had the pleasure of meeting Edgar Davids. My life isn't very exciting. You did ask for an autograph, I assume?


Fourthly - Do you know a guy called Thuram Reynders? He owes me like 20 euros.


Lemme think... :-\\.... No, don't know anybody by that name.


Fifth -  Do you like Gutn Beern? It's all I drink when I'm in Holland (well.. and everything else people will buy for me - It's just all I'll pay for) It's commonly known as 14.2 I think you can guess why  ;)


As I've said before, I don't drink at all.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Paul on 04/13/06 at 4:04 pm


Do most Dutch people speak English as well as Dutch?


Heh!

Some Dutch people can actually speak better English than the English!

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/13/06 at 4:04 pm

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Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/13/06 at 4:08 pm


Hey Henk..

Can I ride my motorcycle butt naked down the street without being busted?  ???

:) SUPPORT NUDE MOTORCYCLING  :)

Regards Merv  ;)


It's not legal to do so, if that's your question. Public nudity is still against the law in this country (apart from the nude beaches and other nude recreational areas).

But hey - if you drive fast enough, you won't get caught with your pants down. ;)

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Philip Eno on 04/13/06 at 4:15 pm

Is the Madurodam Model Village still open?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/13/06 at 4:21 pm


Do most Dutch people speak English as well as Dutch?


Most Dutch people can speak some English, as English classes are still obligatory in this country until the age of 16 (or thereabout, depending on the school system) as far as I know. These days English classes are started at the age of 11, but people of my generation would have had English classes for an average of five years.



"We" like to think we can speak and write proper English, but of course "we" can't. We're not English.
But in general, our English is better than our Dutch these days. ;D

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Donnie Darko on 04/13/06 at 4:24 pm


Most Dutch people can speak some English, as English classes are still obligatory in this country until the age of 16 (or thereabout, depending on the school system) as far as I know. These days English classes are started at the age of 11, but people of my generation would have had English classes for an average of five years.



"We" like to think we can speak and write proper English, but of course "we" can't. We're not English.
But in general, our English is better than our Dutch these days. ;D


;D

Can you speak Dutch? (stupid question, I know  ;))

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/13/06 at 4:25 pm


Is the Madurodam Model Village still open?


Not at this time of night, Philip. ;)

But seriously - yes, it's still open. It's been ages since I last visited the place. I really need to do a scenic tour of my own country sometime soon.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/13/06 at 4:27 pm


;D

Can you speak Dutch? (stupid question, I know  ;))


Just enough to make it through the day. ;)

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Philip Eno on 04/13/06 at 4:29 pm


Not at this time of night, Philip. ;)

But seriously - yes, it's still open. It's been ages since I last visited the place. I really need to do a scenic tour of my own country sometime soon.
I spent about I fortnight in The Netherlands when I was around 12 years old, I remember going to it.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Windbreaker05 on 04/13/06 at 5:49 pm


Hope this answers your question...

http://www.arthistoryclub.com/art_history/upload/thumb/e/e2/400px-Netherlands_map_large.png

As you can see (I hope), Holland (i.e. North and South Holland on the map) is only part of The Netherlands.


Thank you! That's a cool map. So what exactly do you call those regions? Are they states or principalities or counties or...?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/14/06 at 10:36 am


Thank you! That's a cool map. So what exactly do you call those regions? Are they states or principalities or counties or...?


Provinces.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Windbreaker05 on 04/14/06 at 10:48 am


Provinces.


Thanks!

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Philip Eno on 04/21/06 at 10:22 am

Are Mouth and MacNeal still performing?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/22/06 at 4:41 am


Are Mouth and MacNeal still performing?


No, they're not. Well, not as a duo anyway. They split up in 1975 and both started (solo) careers.
Willem Duyn, the man known as "Mouth" (or "Big Mouth" in another duo he was to form subsequently) died on December 3, 2004.
Sjoukje Van 't Spijker, a.k.a. "(Maggie) MacNeal", is still in showbizz, touring local clubs and theatres as far as I know. She hasn't scored a hit single in over 25 years (don't know if she still wants to, though). I believe she is or was one of the "Dutch Divas", I'll have to check.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Philip Eno on 04/22/06 at 6:01 am


No, they're not. Well, not as a duo anyway. They split up in 1975 and both started (solo) careers.
Willem Duyn, the man known as "Mouth" (or "Big Mouth" in another duo he was to form subsequently) died on December 3, 2004.
Sjoukje Van 't Spijker, a.k.a. "(Maggie) MacNeal", is still in showbizz, touring local clubs and theatres as far as I know. She hasn't scored a hit single in over 25 years (don't know if she still wants to, though). I believe she is or was one of the "Dutch Divas", I'll have to check.
So they split a year after their appearance in the Eurovision Song Contest.

I am sadden with the news of Willem Duyn death, he was one of the images of my youth.

But, good news about Sjoukje Van 't Spijker, go on make another record.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Philip Eno on 04/22/06 at 6:03 am

Blessed!

http://members.tripod.com/el_tequila/Kjop&salg/Norske%20Picture%20Sleeves/Mouth%20&%20MacNeal.jpg

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: LyricBoy on 04/22/06 at 9:15 pm

Do they sell Dutch Boy Paint in The Netherlands? ???

http://www.dutchboy.com/_images/home/db_logo.jpg

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: LyricBoy on 04/22/06 at 9:17 pm

Oh, and I almost forgot.  Does the rock band Golden Earring still tour in The Netherlands?

Those guys rocked big time back in the mid 70's and early 90's.  8)

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: whistledog on 04/23/06 at 1:09 am

Is Anita Doth popular as a solo artist in the Netherlands?

Also, was the new 2 Unlimited (with Marion and Romy) popular down there?  I have CD singles of "Never Surrender" and "Wanna Get Up".  Not quite as good as the Ray and Anita 2 Unlimited, but still good :)

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/23/06 at 1:24 am


Do they sell Dutch Boy Paint in The Netherlands? ???

http://www.dutchboy.com/_images/home/db_logo.jpg


Can't say that I have ever seen this in stores anywhere. :-\\ I'll have to check to make certain.


Oh, and I almost forgot.  Does the rock band Golden Earring still tour in The Netherlands?

Those guys rocked big time back in the mid 70's and early 90's.   8)


Golden Earring are still alive and well. Not sure whether they're touring the Netherlands right now or not.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/23/06 at 1:36 am

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Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Philip Eno on 04/23/06 at 4:33 am

Is that boy still there with his finger in the dyke?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/23/06 at 2:55 pm

Update:


Can't say that I have ever seen this in stores anywhere. :-\\ I'll have to check to make certain.


"Dutch Boy" paint is not available in The Netherlands.


Golden Earring are still alive and well. Not sure whether they're touring the Netherlands right now or not.


Golden Earring are touring The Netherlands as we speak.


No, they're not. Well, not as a duo anyway. They split up in 1975 and both started (solo) careers.
Willem Duyn, the man known as "Mouth" (or "Big Mouth" in another duo he was to form subsequently) died on December 3, 2004.
Sjoukje Van 't Spijker, a.k.a. "(Maggie) MacNeal", is still in showbizz, touring local clubs and theatres as far as I know. She hasn't scored a hit single in over 25 years (don't know if she still wants to, though). I believe she is or was one of the "Dutch Divas", I'll have to check.


Maggie MacNeal is indeed one of the Dutch Divas (ever since the trio was formed in 2000).

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/23/06 at 3:02 pm


Is that boy still there with his finger in the dyke?


This might come as a shock to you, but... there never was a boy in the first place. :o Hans Brinkers never existed, and the whole story of anybody saving this country from flooding by holding his/her finger in a dyke is totally made up.

In fact, you can't possibly stop a potential flooding by holding a finger in a dyke. It would never work.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Philip Eno on 04/23/06 at 3:08 pm


This might come as a shock to you, but... there never was a boy in the first place. :o Hans Brinkers never existed, and the whole story of anybody saving this country from flooding by holding his/her finger in a dyke is totally made up.

In fact, you can't possibly stop a potential flooding by holding a finger in a dyke. It would never work.
Thanks for putting the story straight.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/23/06 at 3:25 pm

Update:


Anita eventually dicovered the world wasn't ready for her... ;D
As far as I know, she released three singles ("Universe" , "Lifting Up My Life" and "This Is Reality" ), none of which reached Dutch Top 40. After that, she gave up her singing career.


The true part of this story is that she did release just the three singles I mentioned. But she didn't give up her singing career after that. In fact, she's still touring the country as one of the "Diva's of Dance". The other members of this trio, formed in 2002, are Linda Estelle (formerly with T-Spoon) and Des'ray (formerly with 2 Brothers on the 4th Floor).

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: LyricBoy on 04/23/06 at 4:36 pm


This might come as a shock to you, but... there never was a boy in the first place. :o Hans Brinkers never existed, and the whole story of anybody saving this country from flooding by holding his/her finger in a dyke is totally made up.

In fact, you can't possibly stop a potential flooding by holding a finger in a dyke. It would never work.


I think it works better if you pit your finger in a dike.  Dikes are the thingies that are supposed to hold back water.

If the Little Dutch Boy was doing what the prior posts imply, no wonder the place floods all the time. 

;D ;D

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Paul on 04/23/06 at 4:38 pm


In fact, you can't possibly stop a potential flooding by holding a finger in a dyke. It would never work.


All my illusions are now shattered...

You'll be telling me next that there is no mouse living in a windmill in old Amsterdam...

...going clip-clippety-clop on the stair...

...oh yeah!

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 04/24/06 at 12:47 pm


I think it works better if you pit your finger in a dike.  Dikes are the thingies that are supposed to hold back water.

If the Little Dutch Boy was doing what the prior posts imply, no wonder the place floods all the time. 

;D ;D


I suppose you're referring to the other (Australian/Newzealandish) meaning of the word (ie toilet), or possibly the third meaning that is perhaps best known (lesbian).

I admit I was hesitant to use this specific spelling of the word, but when looking for the proper translation of the Dutch word "dijk", the first word given in my dictionary is dyke. So it turns out there's nothing wrong with that - as long as you're living in UK, I suppose... ???

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: CatwomanofV on 06/25/06 at 4:44 pm

Have you ever been outside the Netherlands, and if so, where? And if you have, how are those other countries (in your opinion) similar/different to the Netherlands?




Cat

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Philip Eno on 06/26/06 at 1:02 am

So how come The Netherlands lost last night?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: whistledog on 06/26/06 at 2:24 am


Update:

The true part of this story is that she did release just the three singles I mentioned. But she didn't give up her singing career after that. In fact, she's still touring the country as one of the "Diva's of Dance". The other members of this trio, formed in 2002, are Linda Estelle (formerly with T-Spoon) and Des'ray (formerly with 2 Brothers on the 4th Floor).


oh man Des'ray.  She makes my Dreams come alive ;D

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 06/26/06 at 1:20 pm


Have you ever been outside the Netherlands, and if so, where? And if you have, how are those other countries (in your opinion) similar/different to the Netherlands?

Cat


I haven't been to that many other countries - just Belgium, Germany and Luxembourg.

Belgium is ugly (well, maybe not all of it), Germany is very German and Luxembourg is... small. ::)

But seriously...although Belgium and Germany are neighbouring countries, you really can't compare them with the Netherlands.
Germany has this strange habit of closing shops during lunch time. :-\\ Not very customer/tourist friendly IMO.
We have this love/hate relationship with Germany, or the Germans. Of course this has to do with WW II, but even more with football.
Germans (in general) love our country, and envy us for our tolerance and frankness. We, on the other hand,  have an unrational aversion of anything German, especially since 1974 (when we were defeated by Germany in the World Cup final). We still want revenge.

Belgium has the strange habit of closing pubs at 23:00... (at least, that was the case when I last visited the country. Come to think of it, that was some 20 years ago... :o) The country also has some very ugly cities, like Li

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 06/26/06 at 1:21 pm


So how come The Netherlands lost last night?


You want the long version or the short one..? ???




I'll give you the short one anyway: we forgot to score.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Philip Eno on 06/26/06 at 1:23 pm


You want the long version or the short one..? ???




I'll give you the short one anyway: we forgot to score.
The score answer will do fine, thanks.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Ebontyne on 06/28/06 at 1:49 pm

How do you specifically, and the Dutch people generally, view Queen Beatrix and the rest of the Dutch Royal Family? :)

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 06/28/06 at 4:04 pm


How do you specifically, and the Dutch people generally, view Queen Beatrix and the rest of the Dutch Royal Family? :)


This is a tough question. I've never given it much thought, really...it's just one of the facts of life.

I think (both in general and personally) Queen Beatrix is lacking this "motherly" aspect. Her mother, the former queen and late Princess Juliana, was the kind of woman you'd like to have for a (grand) mother, if you know what I mean. Queen Beatrix is more detached, which makes her less popular. She's also a queen that goes "by the book": she seldomly breaches protocol, unlike her late husband Prince Claus, for instance. In his final years he was one of the most popular members of the royal family (and to think he was German...).
Queen Beatrix is very much aware of her duties and restrictions. I'm not sure if she's a happy woman (well, she didn't volunteer for the job...).
Her oldest son, Crown Prince Willem Alexander, used to be a somewhat dopey and slightly overweight ageing student. But that all changed when he met and married Maxima Zorrogueita. It has increased his popularity immensely, and his wife (the queen-to-be) is currently the most popular member of the royal family.
Other members of the royal family live a life of their own, mostly out of the spotlights.
Princesses Christina and Irene (sisters to the queen) are both divorced, and their children are no longer in line for the succession to the throne. They don't get much attention of the press anymore.
Princess Margriet, the queen's other sister, is the only of the siblings still married (the queen being widowed of course). Her husband happens to share his birthday with the late queen Juliana's (April 30), which is still celebrated as a national holiday. On that day (known as "Koninginnedag" or "Queen's Day") the royal family (the queen, her sons & their spouses, princess Margriet & her husband with their sons) will visit a selected part of the country. This is a big national event which takes a lot of preparations and is broadcasted live.
Cities and villages are still very honoured to receive the royal family.

I hope that answers your question... :-\\

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Ebontyne on 06/29/06 at 9:08 pm

^ Thank you, it answers my question just fine. :)

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Satish on 07/03/06 at 9:43 am

Is it true that most people in the Netherlands don't travel by car that much and use bicycles to get around?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Philip Eno on 07/03/06 at 1:17 pm

Is tea drinking popular in The Netherlands?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 07/04/06 at 1:14 pm


Is it true that most people in the Netherlands don't travel by car that much and use bicycles to get around?


It is true - to a certain extent. The Netherlands are one of the best countries in the world to visit if you like cycling (there's miles and miles of cycling tracks), and I believe there are just about as many bikes as there are inhabitants.
But even though we're a small country, it's hard to commute by bike and/or public transport, so people use their cars instead (I do too - but then, I don't have a bike... :o :-[)

"We" like to cycle around in our spare time, though. :)

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 07/04/06 at 1:22 pm


Is tea drinking popular in The Netherlands?


Not half as popular as it is in the UK, Philip. "We" are more into coffee drinking.


We do drink tea, but not religiously. ;) And please - no milk. :P

I don't have any inside information and/or facts/figures on the subject. What I do know is that I like a "cuppa" once or twice a day. :)

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Philip Eno on 07/04/06 at 1:24 pm


Not half as popular as it is in the UK, Philip. "We" are more into coffee drinking.


We do drink tea, but not religiously. ;) And please - no milk. :P

I don't have any inside information and/or facts/figures on the subject. What I do know is that I like a "cuppa" once or twice a day. :)
Does the coffee come in a liquor form?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Satish on 07/05/06 at 11:07 pm


It is true - to a certain extent. The Netherlands are one of the best countries in the world to visit if you like cycling (there's miles and miles of cycling tracks), and I believe there are just about as many bikes as there are inhabitants.
But even though we're a small country, it's hard to commute by bike and/or public transport, so people use their cars instead (I do too - but then, I don't have a bike... :o :-[)

"We" like to cycle around in our spare time, though. :)


So do people in the Netherlands drive cars as much as people in the rest of the developed world, then?

I guess the image of the Netherlands as a car-free, smog-free paradise is a misnomer.  :(

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 12/23/06 at 4:39 pm


Off topic:
One of the surnames that always makes me smile is "Son

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Philip Eno on 12/24/06 at 5:36 am

Does Christmas start today for you?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 12/24/06 at 8:27 am


Does Christmas start today for you?


Tonight is Christmas Eve. There will be services and masses throughout the country to celebrate the event, so yes - Christmas starts today! :)

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Philip Eno on 12/24/06 at 9:03 am


Tonight is Christmas Eve. There will be services and masses throughout the country to celebrate the event, so yes - Christmas starts today! :)
Ours all starts tomorrow.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Paul on 12/25/06 at 5:04 am


It is true - to a certain extent. The Netherlands are one of the best countries in the world to visit if you like cycling (there's miles and miles of cycling tracks), and I believe there are just about as many bikes as there are inhabitants.


I nearly collided several times with bikes when I was over there (well, the British are more accustomed to looking right as opposed to left when crossing the road!)

If memory serves, there was a political movement in The Netherlands years ago (Dutch Provos, I think), who used to leave bicycles all over Amsterdam so everyone could have 'free' transportation (which could never happen here...they'd be stolen within seconds!)

And this became the subject of a famous-ish song...'My White Bicycle'

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: FaultyDog on 12/26/06 at 8:17 am


I nearly collided several times with bikes when I was over there (well, the British are more accustomed to looking right as opposed to left when crossing the road!)

If memory serves, there was a political movement in The Netherlands years ago (Dutch Provos, I think), who used to leave bicycles all over Amsterdam so everyone could have 'free' transportation (which could never happen here...they'd be stolen within seconds!)


Well, it didn't work over here either for the exact same reason.


And this became the subject of a famous-ish song...'My White Bicycle'


Can't say that I've ever heard of the tune. :-\\

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: snozberries on 09/15/07 at 12:12 pm

I was born in Utrecht but came to the states when I was 3.  My mother goes back every year and tries to get me to go with her but i am too American now to appreciate my Dutch roots. I was back for a time when I was 14 (about 25 years ago) and all I can remember of it- besides going to Mcdonald's  ;D  -is that the Television programming sucked!
I am a tv addict and need to have access to a lot of shows 24/7! At the time they were re-running old episodes of Dif'rent Strokes but not too many other American Shows aired there.

How is the TV selection (of American programming) now?  What shows do they offer and how far behind are they?  What about if you have a satelite dish? I guess what I am asking is can you get Directv in the Netherlands?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Henk on 09/15/07 at 3:17 pm


I was born in Utrecht but came to the states when I was 3.  My mother goes back every year and tries to get me to go with her but i am too American now to appreciate my Dutch roots. I was back for a time when I was 14 (about 25 years ago) and all I can remember of it- besides going to Mcdonald's  ;D   -is that the Television programming sucked!
I am a tv addict and need to have access to a lot of shows 24/7! At the time they were re-running old episodes of Dif'rent Strokes but not too many other American Shows aired there.

How is the TV selection (of American programming) now?  What shows do they offer and how far behind are they?  What about if you have a satelite dish? I guess what I am asking is can you get Directv in the Netherlands?


Well, a lot has happened in 25 years. I wouldn't say things have improved, although there's more channels to see nowadays.
Twenty five years ago you would've had only 2 channels, I suppose. Nowadays it's a lot more than that. I've got 38 channels right now (but it could be more if I switched to digital tv). I only watch about ten of those on a regular basis, though.
I don't know if you can get Directv over here...but I don't think so. :-\\
Of course, other channels also broadcast American tv series - too many to list, I'm afraid. Here's a rather random selection:

(Unless indicated otherwise: I've no idea just how far these series are behind)

As The World Turns (behind by about 18 months. Jennifer and Hal are still alive, for example  :o)
The Bold and the Beautiful
Oprah
Dr. Phil
The Ellen DeGeneres Show
Crime Scene Investigation / CSI: New York / CSI: Miami
Extreme Makeover: The Home Edition (not that far behind)
Missing, Without a Trace
Nip/Tuck
Veronica Mars
Undeclared
Reba
It's Like, You Know...
Cold Case
Justice
Law and Order / Law and Order: Special Victims Unit
Las Vegas
7th Heaven
Scrubs
Shark
NCIS
Numb3rs
Traveler


and of course the inevitable (reruns of) shows like:
Roseanne
Friends
Ally McBeal
Everybody Loves Raymond
Suddenly Susan
King of the Hill
The A-Team
The O.C.
Seinfeld
Lost
The Nanny
Charmed


...The list just goes on and on. ::)

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: snozberries on 09/15/07 at 3:27 pm

not too bad. 

I have a cousin named Henk  you're not him are you... that would be too weird... :D

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Howard on 09/15/07 at 3:47 pm


not too bad. 

I have a cousin named Henk  you're not him are you... that would be too weird... :D


That would mean you're his cousin.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Philip Eno on 09/15/07 at 3:48 pm


That would mean you're his cousin.
Distant Cousin?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Howard on 09/15/07 at 3:49 pm


Distant Cousin?


I'm guessing yes.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Henk on 09/15/07 at 3:52 pm


not too bad. 

I have a cousin named Henk  you're not him are you... that would be too weird... :D


I'm quite sure we're not related. And although Henk is a common name over here, it is still a funny coincidence.


That would mean you're his cousin.


Yes, it would - IF we were related... But we're not.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: snozberries on 09/15/07 at 4:30 pm


I'm quite sure we're not related. And although Henk is a common name over here, it is still a funny coincidence.

Yes, it would - IF we were related... But we're not.




if your mother's first name starts with a J & ends in a Y AND your last name starts with a W & ends in a K. ... then you might be my cousin. cryptic enough for you?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Henk on 09/15/07 at 4:38 pm




if your mother's first name starts with a J & ends in a Y AND your last name starts with a W & ends in a K. ... then you might be my cousin. cryptic enough for you?


Oh no, that's crystal clear.

Let's see...That's one yes and three no's. So...we're not related. Well, you can't change the facts, can you? :-\\

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Howard on 09/15/07 at 4:39 pm

How's the weather there been lately?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: snozberries on 09/15/07 at 4:49 pm


Oh no, that's crystal clear.

Let's see...That's one yes and three no's. So...we're not related. Well, you can't change the facts, can you? :-\\


Ah well, nice knowing you anyway.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Henk on 09/16/07 at 1:13 am


How's the weather there been lately?


OK, I guess. Nothing exceptional. Sunny spots, clouds, some rain, windy at times...Temperatures are in the upper 60s (which is only a bit below average).

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Henk on 09/16/07 at 1:14 am


Ah well, nice knowing you anyway.


Likewise...As long as you keep away from my other top scores. ;)

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: snozberries on 09/16/07 at 1:42 am


Likewise...As long as you keep away from my other top scores. ;)


;D  uhmmm yeah like that's gonna happen... nothing personal it's like I said... the dutch side of my family is very competative  8)

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Howard on 09/16/07 at 5:53 am

Are there cruise tours in The Netherlands?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Henk on 09/16/07 at 9:14 am


;D  uhmmm yeah like that's gonna happen... nothing personal it's like I said... the dutch side of my family is very competative  8)


Go pester Jason - he likes a strong competition. ::)

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Henk on 09/16/07 at 9:19 am


Are there cruise tours in The Netherlands?


I suppose so. I'm not gonna search the net to find out - that's something you could just as easy do yourself.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Philip Eno on 09/16/07 at 11:30 am


I suppose so. I'm not gonna search the net to find out - that's something you could just as easy do yourself.
I remember taking a boat trip on the canals in Amsterdam.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Paul on 09/16/07 at 11:34 am


How is the TV selection (of American programming) now?  What shows do they offer and how far behind are they?  What about if you have a satelite dish? I guess what I am asking is can you get Directv in the Netherlands?


I remember the days before statellite TV and what-not, where the good folk of The Netherlands could (if they had a large enough aerial pointing in the right direction) pick up British terrestrial TV...

(We could have probably done the same with Dutch channels, but we were too 'lazy' to learn the language to understand the programmes!)

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Henk on 09/16/07 at 2:48 pm


I remember the days before statellite TV and what-not, where the good folk of The Netherlands could (if they had a large enough aerial pointing in the right direction) pick up British terrestrial TV...


We still get BBC 1, BBC 2 and BBC World via cable.


(We could have probably done the same with Dutch channels, but we were too 'lazy' to learn the language to understand the programmes!)


I'll refrain from commenting.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Philip Eno on 09/16/07 at 2:51 pm


We still get BBC 1, BBC 2 and BBC World via cable.

Good to hear that, the coverage of the Eurovision Song Contest in the UK is legendary.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Henk on 09/16/07 at 2:54 pm


Good to hear that, the coverage of the Eurovision Song Contest in the UK is legendary.


That's one show I watch on Dutch tv. I think our commentators are doing a fine job.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Philip Eno on 09/16/07 at 2:55 pm


That's one show I watch on Dutch tv. I think our commentators are doing a fine job.
Do any of the Dutch tv Commentators match our Terry Wogan?

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: snozberries on 09/17/07 at 3:21 am


Go pester Jason - he likes a strong competition. ::)


Believe me I'm trying- it's just.... he has high score on all the games I suck at  :\'(

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Henk on 09/17/07 at 1:16 pm


Do any of the Dutch tv Commentators match our Terry Wogan?


There's only one Terry Wogan.

But then...there's only one Cornald Maas and Paul de Leeuw either. You can't compare the three.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Philip Eno on 09/17/07 at 1:27 pm


There's only one Terry Wogan.

But then...there's only one Cornald Maas and Paul de Leeuw either. You can't compare the three.
I cannot compare the three for I have not seen Cornald Maas and Paul de Leeuw in action.

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Paul on 09/17/07 at 1:49 pm


I cannot compare the three for I have not seen Cornald Maas and Paul de Leeuw in action.


You don't remember the legendary Mr. de Leeuw? :o :D

If ever we lose Tel, we've gotta sign this guy up!

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Henk on 09/17/07 at 2:14 pm


You don't remember the legendary Mr. de Leeuw? :o :D

If ever we lose Tel, we've gotta sign this guy up!


Paul de Leeuw became a legend over here when he recorded the ultimate ESC song spoof: "Vlieg Met Me Mee" (Come Fly With Me)
It starts out in Dutch, but quickly becomes double Dutch (to make it sound like Swedish, Hebrew, German, French, Italian etc), it's very repetitive, it's pompous, and it lasts waaaaaaay too long...but boy, it was catchy!  :D It hit #2 in our charts.

Well, you better have a listen yourself. (no video to go with it)

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Paul on 09/17/07 at 2:41 pm


Paul de Leeuw became a legend over here when he recorded the ultimate ESC song spoof: "Vlieg Met Me Mee" (Come Fly With Me)
It starts out in Dutch, but quickly becomes double Dutch (to make it sound like Swedish, Hebrew, German, French, Italian etc), it's very repetitive, it's pompous, and it lasts waaaaaaay too long...but boy, it was catchy!  :D It hit #2 in our charts.


There! You see? That's the sort of thing you should have been entering the contest with!  :D

(Not that it counts for much these days, I think us 'old guard' are there to make up the numbers (and supply the cash!))

I don't think there's any truth in the rumour that, as from next year, it's gonna be re-titled 'The Eastern Eurovision Song Contest'...

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Henk on 09/17/07 at 2:57 pm


There! You see? That's the sort of thing you should have been entering the contest with!  :D


My sentiments exactly...but I fear we do not have the guts.


(Not that it counts for much these days, I think us 'old guard' are there to make up the numbers (and supply the cash!))

I don't think there's any truth in the rumour that, as from next year, it's gonna be re-titled 'The Eastern Eurovision Song Contest'...


Just a matter of time, I'm afraid... :-\\

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Howard on 09/17/07 at 3:43 pm

I don't know this Paul De Leew is,Tell me more about him. ;)

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Henk on 09/17/07 at 3:45 pm


I don't know this Paul De Leew is,Tell me more about him. ;)


He's gay - that's all you need to know. ;)

Subject: Re: Oh very well... Ask me anything about The Netherlands then

Written By: Howard on 09/17/07 at 3:47 pm


He's gay - that's all you need to know. ;)



Ok,never mind.... ;D

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