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Subject: All This Patriotism
Ok, I'm not against it or for it. I guess you could say am neutral on this subject. Yes am proud to be from the US, but not as much as other people are after 9/11. Ever since then, it seems more people jumped on the bandwagon to be proud where they are from, such as the USA. If you had patriotism way before all this, then much love and respect to you. I'm kinda sick of seeing all these american flags for some reason coming from people and people over doing it.
For example, Kid Rock: when his first CD came out back in '98, he has a red cover. The second album was white, and finally his last album was blue to show his patriotism waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before anyone else. That I much respect. Not to mention he showed his red, white, and blue is the "American Badass" video. Remember?
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I remember, and know one has claimed Kid Rock is a "bandwagon jumper". As for the Patriotism give it time it will die down. I Remember in 2000 there was only one military movie of note released, after 9/11 theres a whole flood of them.
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sagnastian, i know exactly what you mean. and i find it especially concentrated in new york.
i am a canadian and i am damn proud to be canadian. and i sure as hell don't need a couple thousand canadians to die, for me to figure that out.
i find that new yorkers somehow think they are better than everyone else for going through such an ordeal...
Subject: Re: All This Patriotism
So in a nutshell, you're wondering where all these people were before Sept. 11?
I admit, I sort of wonder that myself. But if there's any possibility of it making people think more, and possibly sticking to their patriotism rather than just doing it for the moment, then I'm not going to complain too much.
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Ok, I'm not against it or for it. I guess you could say am neutral on this subject. Yes am proud to be from the US, but not as much as other people are after 9/11. Ever since then, it seems more people jumped on the bandwagon to be proud where they are from, such as the USA. If you had patriotism way before all this, then much love and respect to you. I'm kinda sick of seeing all these american flags for some reason coming from people and people over doing it.
For example, Kid Rock: when his first CD came out back in '98, he has a red cover. The second album was white, and finally his last album was blue to show his patriotism waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before anyone else. That I much respect. Not to mention he showed his red, white, and blue is the "American Badass" video. Remember?
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Couldn't agree more.
Subject: Re: All This Patriotism
Here's another thought:
How are we stronger after what happened? I mean, yea we all came together and helped one another, that just shows kindness. And no we did not win the war or whatever you want to call it. The terrorists won.
Why? Think about all the security problems that we faced after the attack and even still today. People seem to be more paranoid about others because of this. Now a days people can't even joke about whatever, we have to be careful of what we say.
Oh btw, no New York is not better than any other state because of this. Sorry if you live in NY, but that's just my opinion when someone mentioned that earlier.
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I don't think the terrorist have won yet, besides It's way to early to declare a victor. It has been proven in the past that terrorism only ends up strengthening the power they were aginst.
As for people from New York, They have always thought they were better than everyone else, even before 9/11. i guess it's just more obvious now.
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trust me, the terrorists have won.
"They can kill me, but it's still 168 to 1."
-Timothy James McVeigh
Subject: Re: All This Patriotism
Bringing back an old subject to life..........
Ok people where you at? Yeah 9-11 happened last year and a lot of people died, ok, but what about the past wars that went on? People lost family and friends there too, did we forget about that? Most likely. We learn from the past and what went on and hopefully learn from our mistakes. If we can learn from the past then it will eventually get better.
Subject: Re: All This Patriotism
I love all this patriotism. -howard-
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Yeah 9-11 happened last year and a lot of people died, ok, but what about the past wars that went on? End Quote
I think what puts the events of a year ago in a special category is the fact that it was only a year ago. I can remember exactly what I was doing when I heard. I'm sure everyone can. Another factor that I think plays a part is the fact that this occured on our soil, not in some faraway place.
Subject: Re: All This Patriotism
IMHO - I think as long as the patriotism is sincere NOW it doesn't matter if you have had it forever or you've had it for a year "as long as it is sincere", although it is too bad it took such a tragedy to spark that in some folks. I personally like to see the US flag flying everywhere I look, it doesn't bother me a bit, as a matter of fact it makes me proud. - IMHO
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Ok, I'm not against it or for it. Â I guess you could say am neutral on this subject. Â Yes am proud to be from the US, Â but not as much as other people are after 9/11. Â Ever since then, it seems more people jumped on the bandwagon to be proud where they are from, such as the USA. Â If you had patriotism way before all this, then much love and respect to you. Â I'm kinda sick of seeing all these american flags for some reason coming from people and people over doing it. Â
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I agree with you 100%, but not everyone is the same. Like me, i've always been proud to be from USA, but i also feel that the whole universe doesn't need to know it. You know, if i ware a ribbon today, it's only in memeory of all those innocent people that have died, because they deserve to be remembered forever.
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..., but not everyone is the same.
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exactly
Subject: Re: All This Patriotism
In times of trauma, and it doesn't get much more traumatic on a national level than the WTC attack, people need to reaffirm their roots. There's nothing sinister or phony about it.
It's like a death or a major illness in the family. Everyone gathers around grandma's kitchen table and talks about the good times. When the family's threatened, you get together and let everyone know how important the family is to you.
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It's like a death or a major illness in the family. Everyone gathers around grandma's kitchen table and talks about the good times.
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what if grandma is the one that died?
it would be kinda creepy hangin around a dead old lady's house wouldn't it?
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what if grandma is the one that died?
it would be kinda creepy hangin around a dead old lady's house wouldn't it?
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LOL that would be creepy.......