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Subject: Is McCartney inconsiderate or what?
Let me start off with saying that I really don't like Paul McCartney. He made great music as a Beatle, but then he made Muzak as a part of Wings. He really lost his edge, IMO.
Anyway, he was supposed to do a concert in Melbourne, Australia this month, the thing is he was only going to do one concert (possibly a second one), and selling the tickets at ludicrous prices. Whatever, I didn't like McCartney but that still pissed me off. Anyway, on the final day before he could cancel the concerts, guess what he did? Yep, he cancelled the concerts. The reason? He didn't feel that it was the right time to be holding a rock concert in Australia after the Bali bombings. Did it bother him that he had already sold 60 000 odd tickets?
So, I resume my stance on the fact that I think Paul McCartney is a total inconsiderate.
Thankyou
Subject: Re: Is McCartney inconsiderate or what?
I think that McCartney is inconsiderate too. But I agree with him in this instance. It would be hard and inappropriate for him to do a concert for his own benefit when so many people were victimized just across the sea from where he would be doing the concert. He does have a new wife and family to think about, too. That's why I was uncomfortable with The Who's decision to go on with their tour in 1979 after 11 people were trampled to death at a Cincinnati concert. I wouldn't want to be in Paul's shoes right now, but I do understand your anger, BG, if the promoters won't give you a refund. :-/
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Subject: Re: Is McCartney inconsiderate or what?
I have no particular thoughts one way or the other on McCartney's decision to cancel his concert, although it did surprise me a bit - I suspect most people here would have just preferred to see it go on nonetheless.
My understanding is that tickets are being refunded, so apart from the inconvenience.....
My comment on inconsideration is that he was last here in the 80's, at which time (from memory) he did one concert in Sydney and one in Melbourne.
As an avid Beatles fan I would go to see a McCartney concert, but I am not going to spring for a return ticket to Melbourne and accomodation as well as the outrageous price of the ticket.....
I don't know if he was here with Wings, but if not that means the last time he was in Brisbane was in 1964 - 38 years ago.
I was 3 at the time and my parents wouldn't let me go..... :'(
Subject: Re: Is McCartney inconsiderate or what?
I don't know what happened so I won't comment on this particular news item. I will say that IMHO, He is one of the finest writers ever, a great dad to ALL his kids (Including his step-daughter) and an all around decent guy. Yes he married someone MUCH younger than him but that is nobodys business but his and hers. I will finish off (Don't you all wish) by saying that I feel bad for him being duped out of the Beatles catalog, by that strange "Flit-boy." Also, compared to John Lennon, as a father, at least he has never forgotten any of his children.
Subject: Re: Is McCartney inconsiderate or what?
I don't think he should have canceled. If he didn't want to do the concert for his benefit, why couldn't he have given the profits off of the show to the families of those killed? I don't know that I would call him inconsiderate, though. Just my two cents.
Subject: Re: Is McCartney inconsiderate or what?
He actually cancelled for two reasons - neither of which were publicised very heavily as the media grabbed onto the whole Bali sentence out of a very long paragraph from Pauls publicist. Namely that he felt Australia was not a safe place right now as there were still threats against us - and secondly because he had only sold 62,000 tickets - whereas in the same amount of time his Japan gigs had sold 140,000.
I saw Paul at Subiaco Oval in Perth 5 or 6 years ago - I cant find my tour t shirt so I have forgotten which year it was !! It was a great show and I would love to see him again. One day soon.
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I haven't read too much about this, so I can't comment specifically. I do think that if an artist (any artist) is going to cancel a concert for any reason, they should announce it sooner rather than later. And if the ticket house doesn't give a 100% refund, be mad at them, not the artist.
Subject: Re: Is McCartney inconsiderate or what?
Like I said, I didn't want to go to the concert anyways, because I seriously don't like McCartney, so I'd have no idea about refunds and whatnot. But I just cannot stand McCartney and I cannot stand this attitude.
On another issue, the whole thing about him thinking that it was not a good time to have a concert is just a joke - how many benefit concerts were there after Sept. 11? One helluva lot. And he doesn't feel safe in Australia? After 9/11 the first thing I wanted to do was to go to New York. It made me have a love for New York, not be scared of it, and besides the attack happened in Bali, not on Australia soil.
Quoting:I don't know what happened so I won't comment on this particular news item. I will say that IMHO, He is one of the finest writers ever, a great dad to ALL his kids (Including his step-daughter) and an all around decent guy. Yes he married someone MUCH younger than him but that is nobodys business but his and hers. I will finish off (Don't you all wish) by saying that I feel bad for him being duped out of the Beatles catalog, by that strange "Flit-boy." Also, compared to John Lennon, as a father, at least he has never forgotten any of his children. End Quote
I have no idea about the actual personalities of Lennon or McCartney or what kind of people they were, so I can't comment on that. What I can comment on is the music they play and how it affects me or how it touches me. In that case, Lennon would come out the clear favourite. If I can go by what the media portrays them to be, I would still have to go with John Lennon. He seems much more like my type of person than McCartney would be.
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Like I said, I didn't want to go to the concert anyways, because I seriously don't like McCartney, so I'd have no idea about refunds and whatnot. But I just cannot stand McCartney and I cannot stand this attitude.
On another issue, the whole thing about him thinking that it was not a good time to have a concert is just a joke - how many benefit concerts were there after Sept. 11? One helluva lot. And he doesn't feel safe in Australia? After 9/11 the first thing I wanted to do was to go to New York. It made me have a love for New York, not be scared of it, and besides the attack happened in Bali, not on Australia soil.
I have no idea about the actual personalities of Lennon or McCartney or what kind of people they were, so I can't comment on that. What I can comment on is the music they play and how it affects me or how it touches me. In that case, Lennon would come out the clear favourite. If I can go by what the media portrays them to be, I would still have to go with John Lennon. He seems much more like my type of person than McCartney would be.
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I don't put much stock in how the media portrays people...including the negative stuff about John...but like you, I have my opinion and have always preffered Paull to John. I do however respect yours and everyone else's opinion ;)
Subject: Re: Is McCartney inconsiderate or what?
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"Come on people now, smile on your brother, everybody get together, try to love one another, right now."
Anyway, come on Hairspray, I can't even call Paul McCartney a * now? I believe he is inconsiderate, but also quite *.
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No.
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Subject: Re: Is McCartney inconsiderate or what?
I have tried to make an issue with Hairspray on this too and failed. If I were you, I would agree with this particular moderator, who doesn't fool around when it comes to keeping the rules. :-/
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Anyway, come on Hairspray, I can't even call Paul McCartney a * now? I believe he is inconsiderate, but also quite *.
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I have tried to make an issue with Hairspray on this too and failed. If I were you, I would agree with this particular moderator, who doesn't fool around when it comes to keeping the rules. :-/
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come on now.. you can certainly think of more interesting ways of insulting him than using profanity.. profanity is such a cop out.. get inventive
I think it's probably pretty easy to back Paul into a corner either way on this one.. if he plays, he'll probably do it for a loss, and may be called insensitive for it.. if he doesn't, he looks like a shmuck for not coming to Australia..
Subject: Re: Is McCartney inconsiderate or what?
Maybe the offending word was too strong for Paul. I do think he is aloof at times and thumbs his nose at the media.
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come on now.. you can certainly think of more interesting ways of insulting him than using profanity.. profanity is such a cop out.. get inventive
I think it's probably pretty easy to back Paul into a corner either way on this one.. if he plays, he'll probably do it for a loss, and may be called insensitive for it.. if he doesn't, he looks like a shmuck for not coming to Australia..
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