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Subject: The meanings of rings, tattoos, piercings, etc.

Written By: Mike on 12/02/02 at 01:05 a.m.

i'm researching the different meanings of things like what one earring versus two in the same ear means... what different tattoos mean, how these things actually originated, etc.

any input (factually accurate) would be appreciated.

Mike

Subject: Re: The meanings of rings, tattoos, piercings, etc

Written By: XenaKat13 on 12/02/02 at 03:48 a.m.

Factually accurate is going to be kind of hard.  There are different meanings for different geographic locations.  And for at least 85%, there is no meaning other than the person wanted to get one.

A few examples:

Back in the 1980's, it was a new thing for guys to get their ears pierced.  On the east coast USA, a single heterosexual male would only get one ear done (I think it was the left ear). In Great Britain, it was the opposite ear.  Having the "wrong" ear pierced meant you were gay.  Then a bunch of pop stars started piercing both ears and confused the whole issue.

Currently in my city, certain gangs are getting certain tattoos done, both for identification and as a statement.  A tear just outside the lid of one eye, for example, means there have been so many gang members who've died in shootouts, they will not cry any more real tears.  Which eye it's tattooed next to, tells other gang members who you are affiliated with.

Another way to do it is the number of tears tattooed tells how many family member's funerals you've been to.

Some gangs have their symbols tattooed on either the left or right hand, again, depending on which gang you are in and who your "allies"  and "enemies" are.

These are not professional tattoos at all.  They are home made kits, usually using the ink from a ballpoint pen, and either a sewing needle or a discarded drug needle (YUCK!!!!!)

Information about gang tattoos came to me from a former co-worker who was trying to "get out" of the gang system.

Subject: Re: The meanings of rings, tattoos, piercings, etc

Written By: Mike on 12/02/02 at 12:09 a.m.

Thankx for that. Any info about what the number of rings in either ear represent? One wouldn't want to get it wrong, eh? That might be kind of embarrassing.

Subject: Re: The meanings of rings, tattoos, piercings, etc

Written By: Hairspray on 12/02/02 at 12:24 a.m.

Why would a man want to wear earings? That is my question.

Mike, do you really need jewelry? Why not something less permanent like a ring or neclace. Those holes never seal, you know.

Subject: Re: The meanings of rings, tattoos, piercings, etc

Written By: Indy Gent on 12/02/02 at 01:15 p.m.

I wouldn't do any of those, mainly for religious reasons, and that I cannot stand needles sticking in a body part for anything but a vaccination or blood test, and I'm even squeamish when done for that. :-X

Subject: Re: The meanings of rings, tattoos, piercings, etc

Written By: Crazy Don on 12/02/02 at 01:19 p.m.

I've never believed in wearing jewelry (except for class rings and wedding rings, but I've never been married), having tattoos, or body piercings.

Subject: Re: The meanings of rings, tattoos, piercings, etc

Written By: XenaKat13 on 12/02/02 at 01:23 p.m.


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Why would a man want to wear earings? That is my question.

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I can't answer for nowadays, but before the Victorian era, lots of men wore earrings.

The practice dates back to antiquity, and 99.9% of earring-wearing men were sailors, merchant traders, adventurers or other people who frequently traveled far from home, and were likely to die in a faraway place.

The earring the sailors wore (and it was usually only one) was made of solid gold or pure silver.  It was supposed to be used to pay for a Christian burial if the sailor died in a foreign land, or if the body washed ashore among strangers.

Yes, I looked this up.  I was sooo into Adam and the Ants at the time, I found myself facsinated with all things Pirate.  I read novels and history books about them.

I still love pirates.  I just recently visited the Pirate Museum in Salem, Massachusetts.

I don't know why people wear more than one earring in the same ear at the same time...

I have two earrings in each ear, but I got the second set of holes to "fit in" during a time when all my friends had five or six holes in each ear. ::) ::) ::) ::)

...But I'm much better now.... ;)

Subject: Re: The meanings of rings, tattoos, piercings, etc

Written By: Ghetto_John_34 on 12/02/02 at 06:48 p.m.

Well personally i like em, i plan on getting a few in the near future, piercings that is, i dont think im ready for a tattoo

Subject: Re: The meanings of rings, tattoos, piercings, etc

Written By: lebeiw15 on 12/02/02 at 08:35 p.m.

Like IG said, for religious reasons is why I don't really care for 'em... God gave us our bodies, and doesn't want us to "destroy" them (piercing holes, tattoos, etc etc)

Subject: Re: The meanings of rings, tattoos, piercings, etc

Written By: Mike on 12/03/02 at 09:47 a.m.

I was told that earring holes would eventually fill themselves in again if unused for a long time. Is this correct? Do they still leave a scar?

What kind of a statement is being made by wearing two or more rings in one ear? I just don't understand this. Is it just because somebody else is doing it and therefore cool? Isn't that conformist behavior? I thought teen fashions were supposed to be about being non-conformist.

Is wearing multiple earrings considered Goth or Punk, or what, exactly?

Subject: Re: The meanings of rings, tattoos, piercings, etc

Written By: Hairspray on 12/03/02 at 11:32 a.m.


Quoting:
I was told that earring holes would eventually fill themselves in again if unused for a long time. Is this correct? Do they still leave a scar? End Quote



They do not fill thenmselves in. They get a bit of scar tissue in them, but it's more like a crud that washes away.  :P

The holes will never close all the way ever again.

I know from my own experience and the experiences of others around me, who have been waiting for their "mistakes" to close up for years.  :-/

Subject: Re: The meanings of rings, tattoos, piercings, etc

Written By: XenaKat13 on 12/03/02 at 01:47 p.m.


Quoting:
I was told that earring holes would eventually fill themselves in again if unused for a long time. Is this correct? Do they still leave a scar?

What kind of a statement is being made by wearing two or more rings in one ear? I just don't understand this. Is it just because somebody else is doing it and therefore cool? Isn't that conformist behavior? I thought teen fashions were supposed to be about being non-conformist.

Is wearing multiple earrings considered Goth or Punk, or what, exactly?
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--Earring holes that are not used for a long time do fill up with some kind of crud.  Dead skin cells. :-X :-X   The myth of scar tissue comes from the fact that most people who don't wear their earrings for a long time tend to forget the angle used to put the earring in.  Then when they try, they "miss" and poke good skin, causing pain. (Trust me on this. Been there, done that ect.)

--Teen fashions and behaviors are only non-conformist to the extent that they are trying to be as unlike the adults as they can. They do still want to fit in with their peer groups, so will try not to be too different from their crowd.

--As far as two or more earrings in the same ear, I don't think it could be considered Goth, Punk, Pop or anything else.  When my crowd was doing it, none of us could have been considered either Goth or Punk, not by any stretch of the imagination.  I think it is just to do with what is currently fashionable, like how long a skirt should be.  One year above the knee,  next year below the knee, the year after that mini-skirt, the year after that, mid-calf and so on.

Subject: Re: The meanings of rings, tattoos, piercings, etc

Written By: XenaKat13 on 12/03/02 at 01:54 p.m.

I was talking to my mom about this last night, and she said in the Navy, at least back during WWII and the Korean war, there was a "tradition" associated with sailors getting tattoos.

When a sailor crossed either the equator or the international date line for the first time (she wasn't sure which it was) the sailor was expected to commemmorate it the very next time the ship put into port, by getting some sort of a tattoo.  Exactly what the tattoo was, was left up to individual taste.

A second crossing meant a second tattoo, or an expansion on the first.  My dad got a heart with mom's name on it, and the date of their wedding for his tattoo.  When he made his second crossing, he had my older brother's name and a wreath of flowers added to it.  It was small, and tasteful--no nekkid ladies or rude words.  As it is, mom almost killed him for going along with the crowd.

Can anyone who is currently in the Navy (of any country) help me with this?  Is it still the custom?

Subject: Re: The meanings of rings, tattoos, piercings, etc

Written By: Steve_H on 12/03/02 at 03:10 p.m.

What happens to pierced tongues and navels after you take the posts out?

Subject: Re: The meanings of rings, tattoos, piercings, etc

Written By: Hairspray on 12/03/02 at 03:50 p.m.


Quoting:
What happens to pierced tongues and navels after you take the posts out?
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An everlasting hole.

Subject: Re: The meanings of rings, tattoos, piercings, etc

Written By: ThunderVamp9 on 12/03/02 at 04:09 p.m.

I freely admit, I have a tattoo on my right arm (which apparently is something people want to figure out what it is) and I've had my left ear pierced since Senior year of HS.  My 'rents refused to allow me to get it done, so during mid-terms that year, during one of those long, 2 hour study halls you have when you don't have a class, I took a thumbtack and held it to my earlobe.  Someone dared me to do it.  So I took out my lighter, sterilized it, and shoved it right through.  Then a girl in class gave me a dangling cross earring she had, I put that in, and with my long hair, slashed jeans, tank top and jean jacket (collar up, of course), my look was complete...

I wish I still had that earring...