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Subject: 2nd suspect in Blaines Death Gets 19 Years!!

Written By: RockandRollFan on 12/11/02 at 08:02 a.m.

The trial for the 2nd suspect in my son Blaines Murder begins today...here is the story from my local paper:

Jurors will hear opening statements today in a trial of the man accused in the shooting death of a sandwich shop worker during a robbery.

Joshua Russell Kramer, 21, faces first degree murder, armed robbery, conspiracy and other charges in the shooting of Coronado High School junior Blaine Joseph Steele, 17, on April 26, 2001, at the subway sandwich shop at 8th and Cimarron streets.

Angel Louis Lopez, 25, was convicted of being the triggerman in the shooting and in April was sentenced to life in prison without parole.

Prosecuters say lopez and Karamer robbed the store while Joseph Edward Crownover, 23, waited in a car outside. Crownover will be tried March 10.
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I appreciate any and all prayers...... :'(

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: Kay. on 12/11/02 at 08:10 a.m.

My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family Mark as you well know.

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: cs on 12/11/02 at 08:14 a.m.

You and your family are already included in my thoughts and prayers.  I hope that justice is served and that your stength helps you during this difficult time.  cs

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: Hairspray on 12/11/02 at 08:22 a.m.

We're with you in thought.

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: Crazy Don on 12/11/02 at 08:24 a.m.

I'm with you.  Hope they find him guilty and hope they throw the book at him.

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: DJ Midas on 12/11/02 at 08:26 a.m.

You & your family are in my thoughts and prayers, RNRF.

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: Zella on 12/11/02 at 08:32 a.m.

I know today will be a hard one for you. You hang in there honey. My thoughts will be with you.

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: Jessica on 12/11/02 at 08:36 a.m.

You and your family are in my prayers and I'm here for you whenever you need me.

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: SamRice Gamgee on 12/11/02 at 08:43 a.m.

The Hobbits and creatures of Middle Earth will lend their powers to you :)

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: RockandRollFan on 12/11/02 at 12:37 a.m.

Thanks to all for the wonderful support and kindness.  ;)  I'll keep you all posted as this winds down.  

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: AngTB on 12/11/02 at 02:35 p.m.

I hope things go well and the jury selection is soon over so that they can start the trial.  I cannot imagine the pain you must be suffering.  My heart goes out to you.

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: Steve_H on 12/11/02 at 03:55 p.m.

Good luck, R&R.

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: SuperFreak on 12/11/02 at 04:51 p.m.

You have my thoughts and prayers with you RockandRollFan :-*

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: Alicia. on 12/11/02 at 05:31 p.m.

I hope those little boys who killed Blain go to Hello....I'm with you  :-*

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: dagwood on 12/11/02 at 05:49 p.m.

I am praying for you on this end, too.

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: Indy Gent on 12/11/02 at 06:06 p.m.

I am praying for justice for your son, punishment for both his killers, and some peace of mind for you. :'(

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: RockandRollFan on 12/11/02 at 09:22 p.m.


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I am praying for justice for your son, punishment for both his killers, and some peace of mind for you. :'(
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Thanks IndyGent....but I also think the driver is just as responsible....he has dragged this out through 7 lawyers....That means 3 killers....so i hope he goes in for life too >:(

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: Indy Gent on 12/11/02 at 10:00 p.m.

I believe the driver can only be an accessory to murder, but I hope he gets the same as the other 2.

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Thanks IndyGent....but I also think the driver is just as responsible....he has dragged this out through 7 lawyers....That means 3 killers....so i hope he goes in for life too >:(
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Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: RockandRollFan on 12/12/02 at 12:53 a.m.


Quoting:
I believe the driver can only be an accessory to murder, but I hope he gets the same as the other 2.

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In Colorado If you are involved in a crime and someone other than the criminals die it is Capitol Murder and all involved are given a mandatory life sentence....I am not attending this trial either, for fear of well..let's just leave it at that, shall we... >:(

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: FussBudgetVanPelt on 12/12/02 at 01:27 p.m.

Mark, I hope justice is served and everything goes well

FB

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: CeramicsFanatic on 12/12/02 at 02:30 p.m.

RockandRollFan....I hope justice is served in this case and that the individual(s) get the punishment they deserve!!!

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: RockandRollFan on 12/12/02 at 03:41 p.m.

Thanks so much Luke & CeramicsFanatic....I appreciate your thoughts as I do everyone elses' ;)

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: shazzaah on 12/12/02 at 07:49 p.m.

I cannot imagine the pain you and your family are going through, I am including you in my prayers.

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: Screwball54 on 12/12/02 at 09:32 p.m.

I hope the trial goes well, and the defendant gets what he deserves.  My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: Jonman on 12/13/02 at 03:05 a.m.

Stay strong buddy! My thoughts and prayers are with you...

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: RockandRollFan on 12/13/02 at 05:11 p.m.


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Stay strong buddy! My thoughts and prayers are with you...
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Thanks Jonman....I'm just glad this week has come to a close....

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: Rice Cube on 12/13/02 at 05:20 p.m.

Hang in there man.  Justice will be served.

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: RockandRollFan on 12/14/02 at 07:25 a.m.

They're telling us that it may be over by next Wednesday!  That would be great.  Right now though, I'm glad the weekend is here....thanks again, Everyone :)

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed....trial #2 Begins

Written By: Crazy Don on 12/14/02 at 07:30 a.m.

I hope that this is over quickly.  I am sorry for what has happened to your son and I hope that justice is served.

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed...Judge Change....Re-Start Pend

Written By: RockandRollFan on 12/16/02 at 02:39 p.m.

We JUST found out the the judge had seen a piece of paper concerning the case months ago....and so they have to change judges and start ALL OVER AGAIN...we just don't know when yet....and here we were gonna hear closing arguments by weeks end >:(

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed...Judge Change....Re-Start Pend

Written By: John_Seminal on 12/16/02 at 02:59 p.m.

i trully wish you the best and better times. this must be a very hard time. but do not let this overtake your life. live for lifes sake. these bums must have been depraved lunitics.

do you have any other children? how are they doing?

i will say a prayer for you tonight.

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed...Judge Change....Re-Start Pend

Written By: RockandRollFan on 12/16/02 at 09:10 p.m.

It's officially a mistrial because the judge was involved in a case with a potential witness...10 years ago, so it was ruled a conflict of interest.  I find out tomorrow when a new Judge and Jury will be chosen.  Thanks again for all the wonderful words and prayers :)

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed...Judge Change....Re-Start Pend

Written By: Eli_Sheol on 12/20/02 at 10:30 p.m.

I'm really sorry to hear about that RockandRollFan. May God give you peace and strength.

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed...Judge Change....Re-Start Pend

Written By: max_power on 12/21/02 at 06:02 p.m.

I may not always be around, but all my prayers are with you and your family.


Max Power

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed...Judge Change....Re-Start Pend

Written By: Indy Gent on 12/21/02 at 07:36 p.m.

I am truly sorry about these recent developments, Mark. But the good news is that it is only justice delayed and not dying. I hope that the new trial turns out better and that Blaine will have the justice he deserves. Hang in there. And Merry Christmas.

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It's officially a mistrial because the judge was involved in a case with a potential witness...10 years ago, so it was ruled a conflict of interest.  I find out tomorrow when a new Judge and Jury will be chosen.  Thanks again for all the wonderful words and prayers :)
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Subject: Re: Prayers Needed...Judge Change....Re-Start Pend

Written By: RockandRollFan on 12/23/02 at 06:18 p.m.

Thanks everyone...again ;) It's okay that a new trial will eventually start but now this one is delayed until March while the driver gets an extension until June >:( I wish it would just end......

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed...Judge Change....Re-Start Pend

Written By: julie on 12/27/02 at 07:55 a.m.

R&RFan-Just wanted you to know that you are in my prayers.  I haven't posted too much to this board but wanted you to know that even though I am a stranger to you that you are being thought of.  May this new year bring you many blessings and healing.  BTW-Love your roof pic in "Party" thread.  Wonderful tribute to Blaine.

Subject: Re: Prayers Needed...Judge Change....Re-Start Pend

Written By: RockandRollFan on 12/27/02 at 10:11 a.m.


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R&RFan-Just wanted you to know that you are in my prayers.  I haven't posted too much to this board but wanted you to know that even though I am a stranger to you that you are being thought of.  May this new year bring you many blessings and healing.  BTW-Love your roof pic in "Party" thread.  Wonderful tribute to Blaine.
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Thanks so very much, julie....and welcome to the boards!

Subject: Re: 2nd suspect in Blaines Death Gets 19 Years!!

Written By: RockandRollFan on 05/18/03 at 09:20 a.m.

Kramer was sentenced to 19 years on Friday!  2 down and 1 to go......

Subject: Re: 2nd suspect in Blaines Death Gets 19 Years!!

Written By: Dude on 05/18/03 at 10:05 a.m.

Good deal Mark!! I hope this brings you and your family some comfort. Y'all continue to be in my prayers.

Subject: Re: 2nd suspect in Blaines Death Gets 19 Years!!

Written By: Indy Gent on 05/18/03 at 10:10 a.m.

I am so glad that this creep is getting some jail time. I hope the 3rd creep gets his justice too. And I will always be there, even though I can't in person.

Subject: Re: 2nd suspect in Blaines Death Gets 19 Years!!

Written By: Joelle on 05/18/03 at 10:35 a.m.

*hugs*, thoughts and prayers.

Joelle

Subject: Re: 2nd suspect in Blaines Death Gets 19 Years!!

Written By: dagwood on 05/18/03 at 11:37 a.m.

I am so happy for you and your family, Mark!  Heres to the other guy getting his just desserts.

Subject: Re: 2nd suspect in Blaines Death Gets 19 Years!!

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 05/18/03 at 11:42 a.m.

That's good news!!  Hopefully, the second guy will get the same.  You are in my thoughts :-*

Subject: Re: 2nd suspect in Blaines Death Gets 19 Years!!

Written By: RockandRollFan on 05/18/03 at 04:41 p.m.


Quoting:
That's good news!!  Hopefully, the second guy will get the same.  You are in my thoughts :-*
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Actually this was the second guy...the shooter was the first convicted. This moron went in the establishment with him and yet to come is the trial of the driver.  :-*

Subject: Re: 2nd suspect in Blaines Death Gets 19 Years!!

Written By: FussBudgetVanPelt on 05/18/03 at 08:15 p.m.

Hey Mark

I hope this is finally helping things come together...

FB  :)

Subject: Re: 2nd suspect in Blaines Death Gets 19 Years!!

Written By: RockandRollFan on 05/18/03 at 10:01 p.m.


Quoting:
Hey Mark

I hope this is finally helping things come together...

FB  :)
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It is as far as Blaine goes but....Life is a freakin' Rollercoaster :-/

Subject: Re: 2nd suspect in Blaines Death Gets 19 Years!!

Written By: cs on 05/19/03 at 06:48 a.m.


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Kramer was sentenced to 19 years on Friday!  2 down and 1 to go......
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That is great!

Subject: Re: 2nd suspect in Blaines Death Gets 19 Years!!

Written By: oddxsocks on 05/20/03 at 02:24 p.m.


Quoting:
Kramer was sentenced to 19 years on Friday!  2 down and 1 to go......
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that's great!  i hope the third guy is sentenced as well.  i'll keep you and your family in my thoughts. :)

Subject: Re: 2nd suspect in Blaines Death Gets 19 Years!!

Written By: RockandRollFan on 05/21/03 at 12:59 a.m.

A Sincere Thanks to all those who care ;) The trial of the driver begins on June 2nd...I'll keep you informed.