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Subject: I feel this must be stated...
I am a regular member here. I really do not want to log in and show my real identity, as I feel it is my choice to remain anonymous. I just want to put something forward.
What is with everyone arguing? What is with all the bitchy comments? Why do some of you feel the need to be so verbally aggressive to others who may *slightly* irritate you? When I first joined, there was none of this. Ok, the occasional 'I don't agree with your view, so I will say something, ' but as of late, everyone seems to be at each others throats.
Sometimes it's beacuse your too eager, too obsessed or even too opinionated. We're all different. We're all unique to an extent. Can't we just get along? I think in the past, I have had one rant about something that was said on the board. I was offended and upset by a members words, but that was a long time ago. I recieved a lot of support from others. I'm not the sort of person who wants to pick a fight. In fact, whenever there is one going on, I do my very best to stay out of it. I never get into discussions about politics beacuse they appear to always end badly.
I'm sure a couple of you may figuire out my identity. I just want to let you all know that some fights are pointless. Leave things be. If you really feel that you must say something against anothers view, then be tactful and proper. Don't just sling back whatever sh*t they throw at you. This is supposed to be a friendly community after all.
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I think we all need to think carefully about what we post when replying to another. If we just post the first thing that comes into our heads then in the heat of the moment we're going to offend. Chill.
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A lot of people have been getting their feathers ruffled over stuff that would not normally bother them. (Or at least that's how it seems.)
It has happened before, some months back, and everything eventually worked out. We all became friends again.
When stuff like this happens, I walk away from my computer for at least a half hour and do something else. I do not want to post while I'm in a snit, and potentially ruffle my friends' feathers by barking at someone else.
Maybe it's the weather getting on everyone's nerves. :-/ Half of us are tired of the freezing cold, and the other half are melting in the summer heat. :-/
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Sometimes it's beacuse your too eager, too obsessed or even too opinionated. We're all different.
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You can never be too opinionated it's not one persons fault to express how they feel and just because people dont agree with them have to start throat jumping
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This is a hard one…..
There does seem to have been an increase again. I try best as can to stay out of it, and as I have previously stated, this is why I have a personal rule that I won’t comment on politics, religion and the like. With a couple of exceptions I have managed to stick by that rule. The rule is self-imposed for my sanity.
Like Kat, I prefer to just walk away. It is not always easy.
There have been times when I look at posts and think “I wish you had considered your reply a bit more before jumping in boots and all”.
But then I have to remind myself that just because that is what I do and would be comfortable with, it doesn’t make it absolutely right. Only right for me.
FB :)
Subject: Re: I feel this must be stated...
Like the author of this thread, I am a regular member wishing to remain anonymous at this time. After reading some of the opinions on the 2000 threads, I am amazed by the increased omission of common sense (for lack of a better term). I know that everyone is entitled to their own disagreements, but I find some of the comments posted, especially those in the Playful Penguin Place and the 2000s sub topics a little disturbing, bordering on insanity. Case in point, allegedly 'frivolous lawsuits'. No being other than the Lord has the right to judge those that sue as crackpots, money hungry fiends, or crooks after everyone else's bucks. Yes, a lot of lawsuits are frivolous and should be thrown out of court. The one that was mentioned here, in my opinion, isn't one of them. All Americans have the given right to speak out against anything they deem as injustice. If our current President has his way, those citizens' rights will be a thing of the past. Those who injure another or his reputation must be held accountable. Where is the accountability now? People in occupations that we trust our lives on (physicians, policemen, firefighters, the Military, etc.) should be held to a higher standard like business or public service jobs. I hope this is getting clear to those that utilize this forum, and I hope the more controversial comments aren't used solely for shock value. I am sorry if this bugs anyone.
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I normally stay out of these kind of things.....but I must say.....PEOPLE...this is a MESSAGEBOARD...are you following me?? It is here to have fun...to either be silly in PPP or be serious in the 2000's. Whether we like it or not... some people want to discuss the serious and it is their right. To those people it is their way to interact with other people here, just like it is in the PPP and PPG.
If someone wants to rant about something that you don't want to see or hear about.....skip it...no one is forcing you to view anything here. If there is too much here for your disliking..then leave...no one is forcing you to stay here. The last thing we need in the already serious world is for this place to get tore apart by people that have nothing better to do than to pick on the members. Darn people, everyone has opinions....respect them and move on. ::)
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And Hairspray should remove memberships of people that abuse the policies that have been set up, so can't we act like adults and not result to hateful speech or bitterness? I will say I am disappointed at some of the comment here, but they have a right to say them without taking out own counter-statements personally. Would you at least agree with me on that?
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I normally stay out of these kind of things.....but I must say.....PEOPLE...this is a MESSAGEBOARD...are you following me?? It is here to have fun...to either be silly in PPP or be serious in the 2000's. Whether we like it or not... some people want to discuss the serious and it is their right. To those people it is their way to interact with other people here, just like it is in the PPP and PPG.
If someone wants to rant about something that you don't want to see or hear about.....skip it...no one is forcing you to view anything here. If there is too much here for your disliking..then leave...no one is forcing you to stay here. The last thing we need in the already serious world is for this place to get tore apart by people that have nothing better to do than to pick on the members. Damn people, everyone has opinions....respect them and move on. ::)
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I think this board is different things to different people. I've stated this before, but I came here to get away from the serious things that we all face everyday. For the most part, Fuss said what I feel. I try to never discuss my views on politics, religion, etc. (learned that early on here) and but for the exception of one time, find that if something bothers me, the best thing to do is to click on "logout" and, in the immortal words of Joey Soprano, "fuggitaboutit".
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Ok, I tried not to comment but this just makes me angry. Southern Spitfire is right. If you don't like the discussions, skip them. You don't have to read every thread. The disagreements happen. It seems like every once in a while this happens then it all goes back to normal without any help from Hairspray or Chucky.
Indy Gent: If anyone has broken the forum guidelines, Hairspray or Chucky would have taken care of it. If you don't like the posts skip them....I haven't liked some of the things posted either. You just have to ignore them. Everyone has the right to their own opinion. No offense meant towards you, I hope you didn't take any. Peace, K? :)
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I have to say I don't even read the political threads anymore.Sometimes when peoples comments get to me I type out a ranting reply but don't post it,sort of gets it off my chest without piling in to the fray! Mostly I too just go away and do something else.
As has been said we are all different and have our own opinions and I for one applaud that however there are ways and means of expressing those opinions without the need to be insulting or offensive.
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Hi folks.
I see quite a bit of discontent with what has been said on the board, so my question to you is, What do we feel is acceptable conversation? I am not being sarcastic, so don't take it that way. I am also newer to this board than a lot of you, so I want you to realize I am never meaning to hurt anyone's feelings. If my opinions have offended, my apologies. My intent was never to bash or make someone feel stupid, only to make my point of view. Debate is healthy. It clears the air, it also can point out obvious facts that another person had not previously thought of. I am talking about intelligent debate, without name calling, etc. Intelligent debate, sparring - whatever you like to call it, should never make another person so uncomfortable that they don't feel they can give their opinion except as an anonymous poster, so obviously something has gone off the track at some time. You don't have to give your name, post anonymously, it makes no difference to me if you want to keep your nick off as to this subject. I just want honest opinions. I realize I am opening myself up to hearing some possible insults, and that is also ok. I will deal. You can PM me if you would rather....I just thought that clearing the air here would be cathartic. Thank you for your opinion. :)BTW this is for my comments only. I read over what I have here and don't want anyone else to think I am speaking for them. Thanks.
Shazzaah :)
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I don't like it when debates turn ugly and personal, but generally, unless people start attacking others for having views rather than the view itself, I'm perfectly fine. My feeling is, if you can't deal with other people's views, perhaps you should try not having any.
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Hi folks.
I see quite a bit of discontent with what has been said on the board, so my question to you is, What do we feel is acceptable conversation? I am not being sarcastic, so don't take it that way. I am also newer to this board than a lot of you, so I want you to realize I am never meaning to hurt anyone's feelings. If my opinions have offended, my apologies. My intent was never to bash or make someone feel stupid, only to make my point of view. Debate is healthy. It clears the air, it also can point out obvious facts that another person had not previously thought of. I am talking about intelligent debate, without name calling, etc. Intelligent debate, sparring - whatever you like to call it, should never make another person so uncomfortable that they don't feel they can give their opinion except as an anonymous poster, so obviously something has gone off the track at some time. You don't have to give your name, post anonymously, it makes no difference to me if you want to keep your nick off as to this subject. I just want honest opinions. I realize I am opening myself up to hearing some possible insults, and that is also ok. I will deal. You can PM me if you would rather....I just thought that clearing the air here would be cathartic. Thank you for your opinion. :)BTW this is for my comments only. I read over what I have here and don't want anyone else to think I am speaking for them. Thanks.
Shazzaah :)
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I agree 100% with this. I would also like to apologize if anything I have said offended anyone, please know that that was never my intent. Like Shazzaah said, if I have offended you, please PM me. I did make a comment that personally offended a member and they did just that. The issue was resolved. I realize I do have a tendency to be very outspoken, too much so at times. I will not be upset if someone feels that they need to tell me to chill out, as long as others are not brought into it. I have made some very good friends on this board, we sometimes have very different opinions on certain things, but that is part of friendship, part of being a family. I consider you all my friends, but please know that I never meant to deliberately hurt someone's feelings.
Subject: Re: I feel this must be stated...
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...If anyone has broken the forum guidelines, Hairspray or Chucky would have taken care of it. End Quote
That's right. Thanks, dagwood. :)
This thread and threads like it can be very useful in helping people get the rants and annoyances out of their system; As long as it doesn't break any rules, It's all good. 8)
Rant away!
You don't like a topic, skip it.
Remember:
While you may disagree with someone's point of view, personal attacks, or attacks based on a person's race, national origin, ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual orientation, disablement or other such affiliation, are prohibited. If you have a disagreement with someone's point of view, address the subject, not the person. - Forum Guidelines
http://www.inthe80s.com/rules.shtml
Subject: Re: I feel this must be stated...
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What is with everyone arguing? What is with all the bit chy comments? Why do some of you feel the need to be so verbally aggressive to others who may *slightly* irritate you? When I first joined, there was none of this. Ok, the occasional 'I don't agree with your view, so I will say something, ' but as of late, everyone seems to be at each others throats.End Quote
Maybe before there weren't as many members as there are now, so now the board has to contend with more differing opinions(?). This board is one of the least verbally-aggressive ones I've encountered - even when some members go into their tirades, one'll hardly see a bad word thrown in for measure. There are many comments that are irritating to some, but not to others. It's kind of subjective what we like and what we don't like (and it's obvious by the level of disagreement in other topics).
Quoting:Sometimes it's because you're too eager, too obsessed, or even too opinionated. We're all different. We're all unique to an extent.End Quote
I couldn't agree with you more on that one. Again, it's so random what is perceived as offensive and insulting, and even more so when some members partake in one action and denounce another's. Other posters might think it okay to jump in and do likewise...
Quoting:I just want to let you all know that some fights are pointless. Leave things be. If you really feel that you must say something against anothers view, then be tactful and proper. Don't just sling back whatever sh*t they throw at you.End Quote
I guess it's the slinging of sh*t in the first place that gets some posters in rant mode. Also, with the thought that "fights are pointless" over a computer, it may even add more fuel to the idea that it is not as offensive in an impersonal forum as this one as it would be in real life. I've seen some of the posters here get it straight in the neck before and nobody seemed to object (I can name those occassions too). This too might offer insight as to why some may think it okay to be rude and snide.
Still, it would be difficult to find another board as well behaved as this one that delves in the topics you guys do.
Subject: Re: I feel this must be stated...
Wow, now I see why I was asked in an IM last night if I was "You Don't Want To Know".
And in answer, especially for all those who are wondering or thinking, NO, I am not. I don't know who the person is, or what's occured lately to get them to post. I made my views known a month ago in this thread http://www.inthe00s.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=inthe80s&action=display&num=1041318904 and with the exception of the thread SS posted for my birthday and the Renegade Retro threads, I've pretty much stayed away.
And as for Forum Guidelines? Well, perhaps stronger enforcement IS in order. Guideline as stated:
While you may disagree with someone's point of view, personal attacks, or attacks based on a person's race, national origin, ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual orientation, disablement or other such affiliation, are prohibited. If you have a disagreement with someone's point of view, address the subject, not the person. - Forum Guidelines
And yet, from the "Good MP3's harder to download thread", I give you:
on January 26th, 2003, 12:05am, Tarzan Boy wrote:
Quoting:Again, it's so laughable reading this from you, but, then again... this is you (frightening, really). Weren't you writing something about screening posters? I totally agree with that.
I won't even go into Screwball's comments seeing as to how he did not comprehend the totatility of my statement. It would be a trial in futility since I can tell just by his grammar and poor sentence structure that he still needs to review basic reading comprehension.End Quote
No, I know TB was told it wasn't cool, but by the guidelines, this should have been prohibited. He attacked the poster's. This seems to be happening a lot lately. That's why I'm absent these days. It's not a fun atmosphere, messageboard or not. Yeah, it's not real life, it's a virtual community, it doesn't really affect us, but in some ways it does. We've made friends here, whether we personally know them or not. And when we see problems like this in our little virtual community, whether they are reality or not, it's just not fun or right. This place could be akin to a telephone conversation. You're not WITH the person you're chatting with, but what goes on in the conversation still affects you, right? It's like a great big party line. And no one wants to hear fighting on the party line, or other people being petty to each other.
Now, I'll retreat to my self -imposed isolation.
P.S. Hairspray, I'm not tartgeting you or picking on you. You're still my favorite Mod and all-around cool person!
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And notice how most of the replies to TV9 did not reflect his sentiments. More than half of the responses wrote to the extent that they didn't care... It's fine if you want to be self-imposed exile, but don't blame the others.
Sh*t! I blow a gasket and, therefore, I am made as an example? Serves me right. Hahaha :) :D ;D Okay. I agree, but then Hairspray'd be overwhelmed with a lot of private messages every time a poster deems something offensive to them. A lot of things can be construed as "personal attacks." There are times when I see posters getting aggravated for almost no apparent reason (your case with ilovemadonna and The Ghetto John in point. Btw, what happened to both?), but, you know, what? That's fine. You are allowed to think whatever you want of other members and express it if you wish to do so (do you think, perhaps, The Ghetto John wasn't affected by what you and other posters wrote about him?). I didn't see anything offensive and intrusive in those posters the way you did, just as other members didn't see any reason why I would choose such vile words in reply to another member's opinion of me. If we're made to feel like we're walking on broken glass, then that's far worse than being an overall @$$.
Hopefully, I haven't spurned anyone this time because it was not my intent. It seldom is...
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And notice how most of the replies to TV9 did not reflect his sentiments. More than half of the responses wrote to the extent that they didn't care... It's fine if you want to be self-imposed exile, but don't blame the others.
Sh*t! I blow a gasket and, therefore, I am made as an example? Serves me right. Hahaha :) :D ;D Okay. I agree, but then Hairspray'd be overwhelmed with a lot of private messages every time a poster deems something offensive to them. A lot of things can be construed as "personal attacks." There are times when I see posters getting aggravated for almost no apparent reason (your case with ilovemadonna and The Ghetto John in point. Btw, what happened to both?), but, you know, what? That's fine. You are allowed to think whatever you want of other members and express it if you wish to do so (do you think, perhaps, The Ghetto John wasn't affected by what you and other posters wrote about him?). I didn't see anything offensive and intrusive in those posters the way you did, just as other members didn't see any reason why I would choose such vile words in reply to another member's opinion of me. If we're made to feel like we're walking on broken glass, then that's far worse than being an overall @$$.
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TB, hell must be freezing over because, belive it or not, I actually agree with you on this one.
I have to admit, I was surprised when I first read the whole topic of this thread. In fact, I had to read it twice before realizing the author was serious and not being sarcastic as a joke. I will admit, I'm just as guilty as the next guy when it come to "ranting" on here when I don't agree with someone. However, I have learned that if I start to feel like I may say something I will regret, I walk away.
Personally, I think if you actually get "offended" and lose sleep from some of the comments on this board, maybe the best thing for you to do is just stay away all together. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to run anyone off, I'm just stating the obvious.
This is a really great site and one of the very few that I actually enjoy visiting on a regular basis, the creaters should be proud. But when there is an open forum such as this, some debates are naturally going to spark some emotion, that should be understood upon coming here. And all in all, after all the numerous "arguments" and debates I've been involved in here with other people, I can honestly say that I have never felt that any of them should be deleted or banned.
There are many different people here with many different viewpoints. Its only natural that there is going to be the occasional "argument".
Cummon folks, lighten up a little. Its only a message board!
Subject: Re: I feel this must be stated...
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And notice how most of the replies to TV9 did not reflect his sentiments. More than half of the responses wrote to the extent that they didn't care... It's fine if you want to be self-imposed exile, but don't blame the others.End Quote
And notice how I didn't ASK that others join me, or their replies reflect my sentiments? I stated my case, and only that. Notice how I didn't particularly single out ilovemadonna, but ALSO those who attacked him/her? And The Ghetto John was not personally attacked, nor what I thought of him even mentioned, but rather my problem with his posting nonsensical posts just for the sake of posting something, whether they were on-topic, off-topic, or even HAD a topic, and whether they were in their own thread or in the middle of a thread I'd been paying attention to.
Quoting:Sh*t! I blow a gasket and, therefore, I am made as an example? Serves me right. Hahaha :) :D ;D Okay. I agree, but then Hairspray'd be overwhelmed with a lot of private messages every time a poster deems something offensive to them. A lot of things can be construed as "personal attacks." There are times when I see posters getting aggravated for almost no apparent reason (your case with ilovemadonna and The Ghetto John in point. Btw, what happened to both?) End Quote
Why? I never claimed any of the above issues I had with those above to be personal attacks, and wouldn't have dreamed them being so. I even protested the personal attacks against ilovemadonna in my thread! And a personal attack seems like it should be something pretty clear to define. Offensive, yes that can be a subjective defnition, but personal attack is NOT. What happened to both? I saw the same day I left that ilovemadonna had been banned for thier behavior. As far as I know, GJ is still around.
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Anyone who "attacks" another because of thier opinion has serious issues of thier own they need to address.
I have seen a lot of it here. But, people are people. Some people feel the need to attack others because of their stated opinions.
I'm glad we have moderators who's job it is to deal with those issues. I'm glad I'm not one.
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I have visited many messageboards on the web.
I say this with great pride:
I can safely say this site's messageboard's community is the best "behaved" overall and in general on the entire web, with the nicest members. :)
I'll also add that these forums are also the most regularly moderated I've seen to date. :)
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Oh...
And nobody's perfect! So...
If you see something that slipped by, let us mods know in a private message. ;)
Thanks! :)
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I say this with great pride:
I can safely say this site's messageboard's community is the best "behaved" overall and in general on the entire web, with the nicest members. :)
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Hairspray, you got that right! I'll admit that I am a moderator on a similar board and you haven't seen flaming until you've been there! You guys do a great job here. That's why I enjoy coming to BOTH places. It's delusional to think there is a 100% harmonious society anywhere.
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Hairspray, you got that right! I'll admit that I am a moderator on a similar board and you haven't seen flaming until you've been there! You guys do a great job here. That's why I enjoy coming to BOTH places. It's delusional to think there is a 100% harmonious society anywhere.
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Uhmm... I'm going into the kitchen to grab a beer. Anyone want anything while I'm there? :o ;D
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Ahhhhhhh... not sure what the gist of that was.
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Simply my failed attempt to interject a little comic relief... A tension breaker.
Here's what I think. Flamers are losers. When they have no relevant content of their own, they spend their time attacking the content of others.
But in my view, this is just an online community, albeit a fun one that I'm glad I stumbled into. Hairspray and ChuckyG can simply turn the button off on the server, walk away, and find another toy to play with. We'd all privately lament and moan for a little while, and then life would go on. I used to have a saying when I played around a lot in IRC. "It's just IRC." Translation ... don't take this stuff so seriously. What did we all do before computers? Did our thing, and watched reruns of Steve Austin and the Six Million Dollar Man, Three's company and Magnum PI
Unlike real life, postings along with their authors can be ignored and deleted. And the internet is one of the few places where ignoring actually works ;D It's just no fun to keep posting, flaming, antagonizing when all your postings are deleted, and nobody replies to your topics.
There are just so many more worthwile things to do, then to fuel the stupidity of flamers by letting them know they've had an effect, and starting a whole chain of dialog based on their posts.
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About the only thing you can do is hold down the obscenities and try to minimize personal attacks. If a debate stance is attacked, it can't help but be translated as an attack on the other side of the debate, no matter how delicately it is put.
I'm relatively new to this board, but it ain't my first rodeo. There will always be devil's advocates who bust other peoples bubbles of opinions. Sometimes, the only way to answer an opinion with obvious holes in it is to point out those holes. But, on the other hand, there will always be oversensitive people who take every typed word to heart. It's just a part of the internet experience.
After being on one particular messageboard for a couple of years, one guy found a site that was hilarious, since we could look through the characters and classify almost everyone on the board by one or a combination of these characters and styles. It's worth a look .....
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
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I'm a "Grammarian L'Enfant Provocateur." How funny and accurate.
There are so many to choose from!
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I laughed. ;D
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Uhmm... I'm going into the kitchen to grab a beer. Anyone want anything while I'm there? :o ;D
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I've mentioned this before but this is the 1st message board I've participated in since I 1st went online in '97. Like all newbies to the net I explored everywhere and found what I think was a Biancha's board site that was very active and unregulated. It was entertaining for a couple of weeks but then the racist rants and empty threats just got old. I couldn't believe the crap others came up with and if Mother Theresa herself were to post there she would have been flamed. I think this board behaves itself well, on occasion some people get snotty but people let them know. I do like the posting of opinions and would not like to see that sacrificed in the name of keeping things "light". There has been many postings here that have made me think about issues from a different perspective and I would hope to have that continue. This board is the posting grounds for some intelligent people and I wouldn't want to see that censored.