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Subject: I don't even know what to say...

Written By: cs on 04/24/03 at 08:19 a.m.

I can't believe this is an actual law in FL.  This is like the Scarlet Letter.

Court Strikes Down Fla. Adoption Rule
04/24/2003
By JILL BARTON  / Associated Press

Mothers who want to give a child up for adoption in Florida will not be required by law to publicize their sexual histories in newspaper ads, after a state appeals court said the law violates privacy rights and substantially interferes with a woman's ability to choose adoption.

The Fourth District Court of Appeal on Wednesday struck down the law, which the state's lawyers had refused to defend. It was heavily criticized because it required mothers, including rape victims and underage girls, to widely publish potentially embarrassing information.

Adoption advocates said the law even encouraged abortions.

The court also said the state failed to show how the rights of the father or the state could outweigh the privacy rights of the mother and child "in not being identified in such a personal, intimate and intrusive manner."

"It subjected women to public humiliation and harassment for no benefit," said Mariann Wang, an attorney with the ACLU Reproductive Freedom Project.

The law required a mother who wanted to put her child up for adoption to take out newspaper advertisements listing her name, age and description, and the descriptions of any men who could have been the father. The ads had to run once a week for a month in any city where the child was believed to be conceived.

The goal was to find the father of babies being put up for adoption and stave off potential custody battles that can break up adoptive families.

The law prohibited anyone from opposing an adoption after two years.

When lawmakers signed off on the bill two years ago, they cited the three-year fight over Baby Emily, whose father, a convicted rapist, contested her adoption. The Florida Supreme Court ruled in 1995 that Emily's adoptive parents should keep her, but told lawmakers to set a deadline for challenging adoptions.

Six women and the American Civil Liberties Union had asked the appeals court to strike down the law, saying it was holding up many of the 5,000 to 7,000 adoptions conducted in Florida every year.

"A lot of women's lives and children's lives have been on hold for all this time so it's a wonderful thing that women's rights have finally been vindicated and protected," Wang said.

Democratic state Sen. Walter Campbell, who sponsored the bill, has said the law had unintended consequences. He did not immediately return a call seeking comment.

Campbell is now pushing for a law that would establish a confidential registry allowing men who believe they could have fathered a child to come forward. If a woman they named as a partner puts a baby up for adoption, the man would be notified in case he wants to protect his parental rights.

Adoption advocates have backed the new proposal.

Subject: Re: I don't even know what to say...

Written By: Race_Bannon on 04/24/03 at 09:41 a.m.


Quoting:
I can't believe this is an actual law in FL.  This is like the Scarlet Letter.

http://www.whas11.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D7QJTVAO0.html
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Damng CS, the link took me to a sign-up page and I try to keep those things to a minimum.  Tell us about it.

Subject: Re: I don't even know what to say...

Written By: cs on 04/24/03 at 09:52 a.m.


Quoting:

Damng CS, the link took me to a sign-up page and I try to keep those things to a minimum.  Tell us about it.
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I don't blame you!  I've modified the OP.  

Subject: Re: I don't even know what to say...

Written By: Race_Bannon on 04/24/03 at 10:26 a.m.

Thanks CS, and thank gawd they're striking that law down.  Clearly they did not think the total reamifications of such a law.  Please, anyone who lives in Florida be sure to vote out any state rep that voted it in.  

Subject: Re: I don't even know what to say...

Written By: Taoist on 04/25/03 at 04:31 a.m.

Wow  ::)

I can see where they're coming from but who exactly thought that this was a good idea?

Subject: Re: I don't even know what to say...

Written By: philbo_baggins on 04/25/03 at 06:50 a.m.

It seems like a classic case of politicians reacting to headlines and wanting to "fix" the law based on one specific case, and coming up with something that simply wasn't thought through properly.

At least they seem to be showing enough sense to revoke the law...

Phil

Subject: Re: I don't even know what to say...

Written By: Don_Carlos on 04/26/03 at 01:40 p.m.

I would only add that the adoptive parents, and in the long run the child, should be aware of the medical history of both birth parents, if not their identities.  It is, however, nobody elses business.  I do think that the father of a child should have some say in adoption decisions IF HE IS WILLING TO ASSUME SOME RESPONSIBILITY.  I think it shoiuld be one shot, ie assume responsibility or for ever give up a right to challenge adoption decisions etc.  On the one hand, we need to respect the rights of fathers, but on the other, men - no males - who avoid their responsibility to their kids should have no right to intervene.  (Real men, like Margaret Thatcher, may not eat quiche  ;) but real  men love and support their kids).