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Subject: Oreos, Oreos, Where For Art Thou Oreos?

Written By: The_Ghetto_John on 05/13/03 at 12:35 a.m.

There Right cheer, but if a San Francisco man has its ways, they may not.

SAN FRANCISCO, May 13 —  A lawyer who says he has spent much of his life enjoying Oreo cookies has sued Kraft Foods Inc., seeking to ban the much-loved cookies in California because they contain trans fat, an ingredient he says is inedible and dangerous.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/912868.asp

read on, this is rediculous
Peace --- Ghetto John

Subject: Re: Oreos, Oreos, Where For Art Thou Oreos?

Written By: Arcfire on 05/13/03 at 12:59 a.m.

On fox news today there was talk about the lawsuit against fast food restaurants. I agree with the one proffessor, "no one held a gun to your head and made you eat the stuff. People need to take responcibility for what they do, too much pass the buck is going on.

Subject: Re: Oreos, Oreos, Where For Art Thou Oreos?

Written By: resinchaser on 05/13/03 at 03:27 p.m.

Of course we are all responsible for our own actions. And i'm pretty sure this lawyer knows that his lawsuit will more than likely fail. But I think his real goal is to educate people about the hazards of trans fats.

Lets not confuse this case with the cases against fast food restaurants. This lawsuit is to make Nabisco eliminate the use of these harmful fats, not to make a couple of million for being overweight.

Subject: Re: Oreos, Oreos, Where For Art Thou Oreos?

Written By: Arcfire on 05/13/03 at 04:29 p.m.

Quoting:
Of course we are all responsible for our own actions. And i'm pretty sure this lawyer knows that his lawsuit will more than likely fail. But I think his real goal is to educate people about the hazards of trans fats.

Lets not confuse this case with the cases against fast food restaurants. This lawsuit is to make Nabisco eliminate the use of these harmful fats, not to make a couple of million for being overweight.
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While I agree to eliminate the use of hydrogenated fats, however, the statement still stands. It is written on the side of the package: "Partially hydrogenated soybean oil". Know what you are eating, dont be afraid to ask or read the package. How many years ago was it that the govt. enforced every food manufacturer to put all ingredients on the side of the package? If we as americans are too stupid to not read what goes inside all we eat, (at least what we buy, I can understand eating out at a restaurant-but you can always ask) The article also stated that it makes the oil act as bad as real butter, should we ban butter as well, because it provides the bad cholesterol? I dissagree with the lawsuit for it stipulates to ban the cookie, I would rather spend that money wasted in the courts to educate people. Kraft allready stipulated that it was looking for alternate ways to make the cookie without the risk. (not that I believe all this, but Kraft indeed did state that it was looking for an alternate to hydrogenated fats back in 2000 in the St Petersburg times. Kraft has a large plant just outside of Lakeland, FL.)

Subject: Re: Oreos, Oreos, Where For Art Thou Oreos?

Written By: resinchaser on 05/13/03 at 05:19 p.m.


Quoting:


While I agree to eliminate the use of hydrogenated fats, however, the statement still stands. It is written on the side of the package: "Partially hydrogenated soybean oil". Know what you are eating, dont be afraid to ask or read the package. How many years ago was it that the govt. enforced every food manufacturer to put all ingredients on the side of the package? If we as americans are too stupid to not read what goes inside all we eat, (at least what we buy, I can understand eating out at a restaurant-but you can always ask) The article also stated that it makes the oil act as bad as real butter, should we ban butter as well, because it provides the bad cholesterol? I dissagree with the lawsuit for it stipulates to ban the cookie, I would rather spend that money wasted in the courts to educate people. Kraft allready stipulated that it was looking for alternate ways to make the cookie without the risk. (not that I believe all this, but Kraft indeed did state that it was looking for an alternate to hydrogenated fats back in 2000 in the St Petersburg times. Kraft has a large plant just outside of Lakeland, FL.)
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Actually Kraft has made no announcement that it plans to eliminate trans fat from its cookies. And it has resisted the FDA's proposal for trans fat labeling.

I don't think that banning butter will help anything, but when it was discovered just how bad butter could be, we were offered alternatives like non-hydrogenated margerine.

And like I said previously, obviously OREO cookies will not be banned, but this lawsuit will certainly put pressure on Nabisco to change their ingredients. And as you can see, this story is in all the newspapers across the US, I saw an interview on CNN last night with Stephen Joseph. So the public is now looking into this on their own, and hopefully paying a little more attention to the products in their shopping cart.

Subject: Re: Oreos, Oreos, Where For Art Thou Oreos?

Written By: philbo_baggins on 05/15/03 at 05:16 a.m.

You can't win with fats: saturated fats have too bad a name; polyunsaturates are too runny to make most foods with and now we find that the half-way house creates the wrong sort of fat...

Maybe they should create a genetically modified soya plant which produces fat molecules with just the right amount of hydrogen down the chain...

Phil