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Subject: What is the deal with sequels?

Written By: Saider_E. on 11/02/03 at 09:01 p.m.

If I see one more sequel I'm going to puke. I mean did "Analyze This"(among others) really need a sequel?

The main thing i hate about sequels is that some mess up really good movies, like "Jurassic Park" the third one was too bogus (oh, by the way they're making a forth one :P) I can understand The Matrix, Spider-man, Terminator 3 and Lara Croft, but Legally Blonde II, Scary Movie 3, MIBII and Stuart Little? Some of this movies were good but weren't asking for a follow up, you know. So now, it's like they're putting sequels out for the hell of it; because it's a popular trend.

To prove my point, in 2005 the sequel to Jamanji is being released. What are they going to do with that?

Subject: Re: What is the deal with sequels?

Written By: Dagwood on 11/03/03 at 03:07 p.m.

They're making a fourth Jurassic Park?  You have got to be kidding....I loved the first two but the third was pretty bad.  I don't even want to imagine what a fourth would be like. ::)

Subject: Re: What is the deal with sequels?

Written By: RockandRollFan on 11/03/03 at 03:30 p.m.

Sequels...then they start messing with the old cartoons...making them into movies...it's all about the Hollyweird Greed Machine :P

Subject: Re: What is the deal with sequels?

Written By: Dagwood on 11/03/03 at 04:34 p.m.


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Sequels...then they start messing with the old cartoons...making them into movies...it's all about the Hollyweird Greed Machine :P
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Have you seen the latest?  Bugs Bunny and real people...almost like Roger Rabbit but it looks horribly done.

Subject: Re: What is the deal with sequels?

Written By: 80sRocked on 11/03/03 at 04:48 p.m.

I agree sequels are usually lame.  I can only think of a handful of sequels I liked better than the original.


But, after experiencing the dreaded prequel (Star Wars), I think prequels are worse than sequels.  

Subject: Re: What is the deal with sequels?

Written By: Howard on 11/03/03 at 07:25 p.m.

I would like to see an Ace Ventura 3.That would be nice! ;D

Howard

Subject: Re: What is the deal with sequels?

Written By: Secret_Squirrell on 11/04/03 at 01:38 a.m.

The current (de)generation of writers lacks imagination.  I'm starting to go back to shows I watched in the 1970's/80's after seeing the crap on tv now-a-days.  >:(

Uh-oh, brace yourself: Indiana Jones Part 4 is on its way.  ::)  Speilberg and Lucas are controlling it this time so it should be good.

Subject: Re: What is the deal with sequels?

Written By: hannahbear on 11/04/03 at 01:52 a.m.

There are four Home Alone movies.  :P

The only movie that comes to mind right now that was followed by a truly good-quality sequel is Toy Story.  I loved both those movies.

Subject: Re: What is the deal with sequels?

Written By: NullandVoid on 11/04/03 at 02:28 p.m.


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Uh-oh, brace yourself: Indiana Jones Part 4 is on its way.  ::)  Speilberg and Lucas are controlling it this time so it should be good.
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No Frigging Way!! I love ol' Indie, but that's Od'ing. Harrison Ford is too old to be swinging around all over the place. It would be a mistake to let anyone else play that part though.

Subject: Re: What is the deal with sequels?

Written By: Mr_80s on 11/04/03 at 02:38 p.m.

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No Frigging Way!! I love ol' Indie, but that's Od'ing. Harrison Ford is too old to be swinging around all over the place. It would be a mistake to let anyone else play that part though.
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Well, it was already done, and as a prequel no less!

After his performance in the intro to "Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade", Sean Patrick Flanery starred in a made for TV series featuring the exploits of a teenage Indiana Jones.  I saw a few episodes, and it is to bad they could not get River Phoenix to do this series.

And don't forget that Temple Of Doom was a prequel as well, occuring before the events in Raiders Of The Lost Ark.

I think the only way a sequal would work is if they set it in the 1950's, and aged Harrison Ford an appropriate number of years.  Maybe set it in SE Asia (Cambodia-Laos or China maybe) with encounters with Comunists instead of Nazis.

Subject: Re: What is the deal with sequels?

Written By: jesuisunpizza on 11/04/03 at 03:04 p.m.

Last summer was terrible for sequels.  I never went to one summer blockbuster.  I have a feeling next summer will be just as bad or worse.  Get creative writers!  >:(

Subject: Re: What is the deal with sequels?

Written By: RockandRollFan on 11/04/03 at 04:46 p.m.


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Have you seen the latest?  Bugs Bunny and real people...almost like Roger Rabbit but it looks horribly done.
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No but thanks for the warning ;)  I'd have to say that some sequels I liked were....Lethal Weapon 2 & 3...Porky's...Police Academy up to but not after 3....Home Alone 2.....Some originals are better left alone...Like: Caddyshack....Real Genius....Stripes...Dumb & Dumber....Arthur.

Subject: Re: What is the deal with sequels?

Written By: Howard on 11/04/03 at 06:09 p.m.

What's the point of sequels anyway? Who's gonna go and see them? It's like repetetive in some sort of way. >:(

Howard

Subject: Re: What is the deal with sequels?

Written By: Dagwood on 11/04/03 at 06:21 p.m.


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No but thanks for the warning ;)  I'd have to say that some sequels I liked were....Lethal Weapon 2 & 3...Porky's...Police Academy up to but not after 3....Home Alone 2.....Some originals are better left alone...Like: Caddyshack....Real Genius....Stripes...Dumb & Dumber....Arthur.
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Not a prob, I will probably even be able to review.  I am sure the short one will want to see it.

Subject: Re: What is the deal with sequels?

Written By: LyricBoy on 11/04/03 at 06:36 p.m.

I hope they do a:

Porky's 5 - "Tommy Turner's Revenge"

Revenge of the Nerds 6 - "Booger for President"

Those movies and their sequels rocked.  ;D

Subject: Re: What is the deal with sequels?

Written By: Mr_80s on 11/05/03 at 08:49 a.m.


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What's the point of sequels anyway? Who's gonna go and see them? It's like repetetive in some sort of way. >:(

Howard
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It is similar with the recording industry and TV producers, they want to bet on a sure winner.

With an unknown project, it is never known how well it will be recieved.  Sometimes things they are sure will not work turn out to be surprise hits (Blair Witch Project).  Other times, things they are sure will be sure hits fail miserably (Cleopatra, Ishtar, and Heaven's Gate).

With a sequel, they can be sure that at least 3/4 of the number of people that watched the first one will watch the second.  And they will often still have the sets, actors, and the like readily available.  This brings the cost down for a sequel.

Normally it is only movies that make good profits that are made into sequels.  That can be a good thing, can you imagine a "Moulin Rouge II"??????

THen again, some producers resist the pressure to make a sequel.  Good examples are E.T., Tootsie, Big, and Starship Troopers.  All of these movies did good to outstanding in the box office, but the producers resisted the urge to do sequels.

Subject: Re: What is the deal with sequels?

Written By: Child_of_the_80s on 11/05/03 at 11:45 a.m.

I was hoping they do a Starship Troopers 2.They could bring in new types of bugs and different weapons and not even bring back the original cast.I think they will reconsider because you cant go wrong with a shoot em up action movie.

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It is similar with the recording industry and TV producers, they want to bet on a sure winner.

With an unknown project, it is never known how well it will be recieved.  Sometimes things they are sure will not work turn out to be surprise hits (Blair Witch Project).  Other times, things they are sure will be sure hits fail miserably (Cleopatra, Ishtar, and Heaven's Gate).

With a sequel, they can be sure that at least 3/4 of the number of people that watched the first one will watch the second.  And they will often still have the sets, actors, and the like readily available.  This brings the cost down for a sequel.

Normally it is only movies that make good profits that are made into sequels.  That can be a good thing, can you imagine a "Moulin Rouge II"??????

THen again, some producers resist the pressure to make a sequel.  Good examples are E.T., Tootsie, Big, and Starship Troopers.  All of these movies did good to outstanding in the box office, but the producers resisted the urge to do sequels.
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Subject: Re: What is the deal with sequels?

Written By: Howard on 11/05/03 at 04:52 p.m.

Star Trek 7?

I forget which number they're up to. ???

Howard

Subject: Re: What is the deal with sequels?

Written By: Child_of_the_80s on 11/06/03 at 05:14 a.m.

Oh yeah...I saw the trailer for "A Whole Ten Yards" a sequel to "A Whole Nine Yards" with Bruce Willis and Matthew Perry ???YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING!Bruce must be hard up for cash?They should call it "A WHOLE TEN DOLLARS" because thats all they gonna make from it.

Subject: Re: What is the deal with sequels?

Written By: Child_of_the_80s on 11/06/03 at 05:16 a.m.

And whats up with them releasing Alien The Directors Cut in the theaters?They did it already on video ???

Subject: Re: What is the deal with sequels?

Written By: Mr_80s on 11/06/03 at 09:13 a.m.

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Star Trek 7?

I forget which number they're up to. ???

Howard
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The last movie was Star Trek: Nemesis, which would be Star Trek 10 if they numbered all of the movies.

One advantage of making a sequel with a project like Star Trek or James Bond is that each movie or story is largely designed to stand on it's own, they are not direct sequels of each other.  Indiana Jones is similar in it's sequels, where they all stand alone, and do not rely on other movies.

Planet Of The Apes is kinda similar.  On that you have 2 groups of 2 movies, with one that bridged the 2 sets together.  I thought that it was classy that in order to get Charleton Heston to agree to make POTA 2, he made it mandatory that they kill his character in the first 15 minutes of the movie!

To get around that, Charleton agreed to be in the first 5 minutes, then reappear in the last 15 minutes, and that he would be allowed to blow up the world.  They all thought that would be enough to end the series, but how wrong they were!