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Subject: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: NASCARnut on 12/14/03 at 11:54 p.m.

That Iraqi maniac,SADDAM HUSSEIN,is FINALLY in custody! :PWhat do you think we should do to the "Butcher of Baghdad"?I say we HANG him like the YELLOWDOG he is!! :-*

Subject: Re: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: n-Somnia on 12/14/03 at 11:57 p.m.

http://www.inthe00s.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=inthe00s&action=display&num=1071402510  ;)

Subject: Re: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: BrianMannixGirl on 12/15/03 at 02:56 a.m.

Stick him in a cell and ignore him.

He will hate it, egomaniac that he is.

Or just let him stand in front of the families of the 2 million people he has killed over the past 25 years.  I am sure they will think of a suitable punishment.

Subject: Re: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: LyricBoy on 12/15/03 at 05:44 a.m.


Quoting:
do you think we should do to the "Butcher of Baghdad"?
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I say that we should shave his head, and then parade him thru the streets of Bagdad wearing a pink bunny suit. :D

Subject: Re: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: Howard on 12/15/03 at 05:07 p.m.

turn him against the Iraquians and make him a  "face" character.give him a USA Flag. ;D :D


Howard

Subject: Re: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: Wicked on 12/15/03 at 06:01 p.m.

I was laughing when I saw his picture after they caught him, his beard was so funny, that dude should get an award for being so ugly!  :D

Subject: Re: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: Secret_Squirrell on 12/15/03 at 06:26 p.m.

He'll more than likely suffer from some "accident" while in interrogation.  Y'know... dying from 78 self-inflicted knife wounds, or something to that flavour.   ;)

Of course, that will be after they have finished getting all the intel they can out of him and before the public finds out about the extant of the USA's dirty little secrets in the middle east that would cast it in a bad light.  :P

Subject: Re: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: Mr_80s on 12/16/03 at 08:26 a.m.

Quoting:
He'll more than likely suffer from some "accident" while in interrogation.  Y'know... dying from 78 self-inflicted knife wounds, or something to that flavour.   ;)
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Actually, I think he will survive, at least until the end of his trial.  THat is unless he kills himself.  But I doubt that, because he already had the chance to do that, and he did not.

I think he is much more valuable as he is, a total disgrace to his regeime and his beliefs.  WHat is funny is that even now, he claims that he was a "kind and benivolent leader", and he never did ANY of the things he is accused of.  This fits the definition of sociopath fully.

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Of course, that will be after they have finished getting all the intel they can out of him and before the public finds out about the extant of the USA's dirty little secrets in the middle east that would cast it in a bad light.  :P
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Well, odds are that he does not know a lot more details then anybody else caught so far.

Leaders like him are very good at insulating themselves from the "dirty secrets".  I am sure Hitler knew all about the death camps, but I doubt he could have told you where more then 1 or 2 were.  I am sure he knows about the chemical weapons.  After all, he ordered their use on the Kurds.  But even if he was willing to talk, I doubt he can tell you where they ever were.

As for "dirty secrets", what could that be?  People are so wrapped up in conspiracy theories, they often just miss the most obvious answer.  Yes, we did help him at one time and give him money and supplies.  So what?  We did the same thing for Germany before WWII, Russia, Ho Chi Minh and the Vietcong, General Shankishek, even Napolean.  So what?

One thing we do tend to do here in the US is help others, especially underdogs.  But once we get bit, we also tend to pull back and refuse further aid.

So when it is all said and done, what can he say?  That we helped his weapons program?  It is well known that he got Anthrax from us.  At the time, anybody could get it, you just requested it and it was mailed to you.  Russia got some from us also, as have dozens of countries.

That we gave him weapons?  Again, so what.  We are the worlds #4 arms exporter, behind France, China, and Russia.  They all sold to Saddam also.

That we gave him intelligence?  Again, so what.  We do that with everybody, and they do the same thing.  That is how the game works.  Even during the cold war, we traded with Russia.  We even gave intelligence to England during the Island Malvinas incident with Argentina, in disreguard to our own policies and the Monrow Doctrine.

Of course, don't forget that France was buying embargo oil from them, in disreguard to UN sanctions.  It has been said many times that Germany and Russia did the same thing.  They also continued to sell them weapons and components for making chemical weapons, in disreguard to UN sanctions.

Subject: Re: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: the dude on 12/16/03 at 09:47 a.m.

80s-rocked, you have an incredible ability of understating the obvious.

Saying the US gave Sadams some weapons, makes it sound like he got a few pop guns.  

http://smh.com.au/articles/2003/12/16/1071336962712.html

After he poisoned over 5000 people in the Kurdish city of Halabja on 17 March 1988, Saddam was rewarded by George Bush 1 with new lines of credit and praise from Bush's Assistant Secretary of State, John Kelly, as "a source of moderation in the region."

Twenty months after this horrific crime, Washington was still providing Baghdad with dual-use licensed materials, including chemical precursors, biological warfare-related materials and missile guidance equipment - enabling Saddam to develop his WMD programs. It's difficult to believe that either George Bush 2 or over 150 companies in Europe, the United States and Japan which provided components and know-how needed by the monster in Baghdad to build atomic bombs, chemical and biological weapons, want this information publicly aired.


The republican regimes actively supported his genocide for decades until he turned on them.  This humanitarian reason for invading Iraq is such nonsense.  If Sadam had any WMD's, Bush Sr. or Regan gave them to him. Maybe that's why they were conviced he had them.

I'm sure an open trial would only embarass the administration at this point.  No need for conspiracy theories, just a need for people to recover from their amnesia.

Subject: Re: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: Mr_80s on 12/16/03 at 10:43 a.m.

Quoting:
80s-rocked, you have an incredible ability of understating the obvious.
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Welcome back Nostradamas.  TO bad you are still to stupid to figure out how to register.

Subject: Re: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: the dude on 12/16/03 at 11:01 a.m.


Quoting:


Welcome back Nostradamas.  TO bad you are still to stupid to figure out how to register.
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sorry... guess again.  if I was that loser, I'd call you names instead of providing you with facts.

What's the matter, easier to attack the messenger instead of the message?  The fact is, your republican cronies made this guy powerful, and then cried when he stopped playing by their rules.  Kind of like Noreiga

Subject: Re: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: 80sRocked on 12/16/03 at 11:40 a.m.


Quoting:
80s-rocked, you have an incredible ability of understating the obvious.

Saying the US gave Sadams some weapons, makes it sound like he got a few pop guns
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Well thank you.  I know I'm smart and all, no need for you to keep reminding me.  :)

But look again, you got the wrong person.

Subject: Re: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: 80sRocked on 12/16/03 at 11:44 a.m.


Quoting:The fact is, your republican cronies made this guy powerful, and then cried when he stopped playing by their rules.  Kind of like Noreiga
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Mistakes were made in the past.  If only we had a time machine to go back and change things 20 years after it happened.

But, whats done is done, and the only option now is to move forward and deal with it.  Bush is doing that.  Something that was over a decade overdue.

Subject: Re: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: Secret_Squirrell on 12/16/03 at 11:47 a.m.

It just goes to show that it's all about money.   :(

In the mean time, i'm taking any and all western news reports with a grain of salt.  There are 3 sides to every story: this side, that side, and the truth.  Only victors get to write history as they see fit.  Carefull examination of how they presented the capture of Sadaam to the world is a good reason to be slightly wary and not to jump on the hysteria bandwagon.

But there is no denying they caught a bad guy.. gotta give 'em credit for that.  (insert that "thumbs up" icon here).  :)

Subject: Re: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: the dude on 12/16/03 at 12:05 a.m.


Quoting:


Well thank you.  I know I'm smart and all, no need for you to keep reminding me.  :)

But look again, you got the wrong person.
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you are right, I got my neo-con sheep mixed up. the word smart though is neither mentioned nor implied in my posts.  Amazing how conservatives just imagine things.  I bet you think Rush Limbaugh is unduly persecuted.

I like that... mistakes were made.  Gee, sorry we supported weapons of mass destruction in the past. We'll make up for it by spending even more money, and killing even more people, and to top it off, let's kill our own guys in the process.

The neocons keep changing their story.  First it's WMDs, then it's humantarian reasons, now it's Sadam's capture. The neocons created this mistake in the 80s, and now want credit for fixing it.  It's like dropping something expensive on the floor and then saying "Look, I swept it up, give me some money."

The neocons can jump up and down all they want at Sadam's capture.  They still haven't caught the mastermind behind 9-11, they aren't even close.  They left one mess behind, created another, and have solved nothing.  It's like they want two Vietnams at the same time.  Sadam's out of power, oh boy.  Didn't stop any of the killing yesterday, and most of the celebrators thought he escaped!  All they did, was capture their puppet.  Now they have to keep him from speaking about his dirty dealings with the US all these years, hence the lack of an international tribune.

Subject: Re: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: 80sRocked on 12/16/03 at 12:17 a.m.

TROLL ALERT



I gave him a chance thinking maybe it wasn't a troll.  But, you see how that turned out. ::)  I have my speculation as to who it is based on the words he was using (over and over).  Reminds me of someone that used to be on here earlier this year.



I recommend all responses to the Troll cease immediately.

Subject: Re: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: 80sRocked on 12/16/03 at 12:27 a.m.


Quoting:In the mean time, i'm taking any and all western news reports with a grain of salt.End Quote



Personally, I don't fully trust any of the news, whether its western, eastern, or wherever.  News media these days seem to be about 25% factual news and 75% opinionated commentary.  And that goes for all the news outlets, not just the western ones.




Quoting:Carefull examination of how they presented the capture of Sadaam to the world is a good reason to be slightly wary and not to jump on the hysteria bandwagon.End Quote



it was made clear by the administration early Sunday morning that the news of Saddam's capture would not be a "victory party" atmosphere.  Yes, it was a huge development, but as has already been said, it was important to not lose focus.

I think it was a smart move taking that route.

Subject: Re: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: the dude on 12/16/03 at 12:47 a.m.


Quoting:
TROLL ALERT

I gave him a chance thinking maybe it wasn't a troll.  But, you see how that turned out. ::)  I have my speculation as to who it is based on the words he was using (over and over).  Reminds me of someone that used to be on here earlier this year.
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Sorry, hate to burst your bubble, but you're the only troll in this thread. I made an argument and backed it with fact.  You back yours with trying to call me a troll. Like I said earlier, you attack the messenger, not the message.

Quoting:
I recommend all responses to the Troll cease immediately.
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I agree, no point in arguing with you.  You have nothing to say for yourself, only the same tired cliches from your party.

Subject: Re: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: Mr_80s on 12/16/03 at 01:38 p.m.

I find it interesting that a Troll uses an OPINION from a net article from Australia as a FACT.

This is nothing against Australia, or anyplace else.  It is that the troll used an opinion piece, and THAT is his basis for his post.  I can find opinions written that say Reagan was a mass murderer, and others saying he was a saint.  Neither of them proves anything however, it is just an opinion.

Opinions are like Diapers.  They often stink, and are full of...  well, you get the picture.  But at least I state my opinions as opinions, and do not scream and insult those who oppose them.

Subject: Re: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: the dude on 12/16/03 at 02:54 p.m.


Quoting:
I find it interesting that a Troll uses an OPINION from a net article from Australia as a FACT.

This is nothing against Australia, or anyplace else.  It is that the troll used an opinion piece, and THAT is his basis for his post.  I can find opinions written that say Reagan was a mass murderer, and others saying he was a saint.  Neither of them proves anything however, it is just an opinion.

Opinions are like Diapers.  They often stink, and are full of...  well, you get the picture.  But at least I state my opinions as opinions, and do not scream and insult those who oppose them.
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Sure is an opinion piece.  Regan never sent them money, never sent them arms.  Quick, look over there, a liberal is spending your money. You're seriousily denying they sent him money, weapons, and looked the other way when used gas on the front lines of the Iran-Iraq war? I guess if it was on newsmax you'd believe it.  

I never resorted to calling you names, yet you call me a troll. funny stuff.

Subject: Re: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: Howard on 12/16/03 at 04:39 p.m.

Saddam Hussein kinda reminds me of Sgt.Slaughter 11 years ago in the WWF when Slaughter went somewhere to lose himself in a dark hole after losing to Hulk Hogan at Summerslam 1991.Slaughter,back then was a hated heel who was part of the Triangle of Terror and knew of Saddam Hussein.Slaughter turned face & wanted his country back.I wonder if Saddam is thinking the same thoughts as Sarge was.thing is, in 1992 It was part of the storyline. ;D


Howard

Subject: Re: THEY CAUGHT SADDAM!

Written By: Hairspray on 12/17/03 at 07:21 a.m.

OK, let's cool it folks.

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