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Subject: A New Endorsement for Kerry

Written By: Mr_80s on 03/17/04 at 09:11 a.m.

OK, this just came in, and I still can't stop laughing.

It seems that John Kerry has a new supporter for his bid as President, Al Jazeera!

Yes, Al Jazeera is supporting Kerry, saying he is "A decorated war hero, Kerry supported the attack on Iraq and wants to see a strong U.S. military.  But that hawkish stance is balanced by his promotion of healthcare coverage, workers' rights and environment-friendly practices."

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but is Kerry now saying he was AGAINST the war?  And is this same network NOT condemming Bush for starting it?

It seems that the world and this election is truely descending into madness.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/3/16/132854.shtml

Subject: Re: A New Endorsement for Kerry

Written By: 80sRocked on 03/17/04 at 02:04 p.m.


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OK, this just came in, and I still can't stop laughing.

It seems that John Kerry has a new supporter for his bid as President, Al Jazeera!

Yes, Al Jazeera is supporting Kerry, saying he is "A decorated war hero, Kerry supported the attack on Iraq and wants to see a strong U.S. military.  But that hawkish stance is balanced by his promotion of healthcare coverage, workers' rights and environment-friendly practices."

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but is Kerry now saying he was AGAINST the war?  And is this same network NOT condemming Bush for starting it?

It seems that the world and this election is truely descending into madness.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/3/16/132854.shtml
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Well...isn't that interesting.

Kerry is the king of flip-flop.  I have never in my life seen a candidate, or any politician, flip-flop on so many things as he has done!  And yes, he did vote to give Bush the power to go to war, he did say Saddam was a serious threat that needed to be removed, he did (along with Clinton) say that Saddam's WMD program posed a serious threat...and all this was one year or less ago.

But now, since majority of his constituants are opposed to those views, suddenly he is now to. ::)



Subject: Re: A New Endorsement for Kerry

Written By: LyricBoy on 03/17/04 at 04:05 p.m.


Quoting:


Well...isn't that interesting.

Kerry is the king of flip-flop.  I have never in my life seen a candidate, or any politician, flip-flop on so many things as he has done!  And yes, he did vote to give Bush the power to go to war, he did say Saddam was a serious threat that needed to be removed, he did (along with Clinton) say that Saddam's WMD program posed a serious threat...and all this was one year or less ago.

But now, since majority of his constituants are opposed to those views, suddenly he is now to. ::)

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Kerry is already tripping over his tool with regard to the "foreign leaders prefer me" claims that he has made.  He says that he "will not betray communications with the leaders", but all this has done is:

Make him sound like he is lying
He has already betrayed those communications by bringing them up
Make him look like he wants to impress foreign leaders instead of the American public

He's rapidly getting caught up in his BS.  :D

Subject: Re: A New Endorsement for Kerry

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 03/17/04 at 04:11 p.m.

Yet another reason I love politics ::)  and am voting for Nader.  At least he has the balls to say what he means. :P

Subject: Re: A New Endorsement for Kerry

Written By: 80sRocked on 03/17/04 at 04:32 p.m.


Quoting:
Kerry is already tripping over his tool with regard to the "foreign leaders prefer me" claims that he has made.  He says that he "will not betray communications with the leaders", but all this has done is:

Make him sound like he is lying
He has already betrayed those communications by bringing them up
Make him look like he wants to impress foreign leaders instead of the American public

He's rapidly getting caught up in his BS.  :D
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Not only that, but he is on tape saying 2 different things about it.

On one tape, he said he met with these so-called leaders, then the other night at a speaking event when asked about it by an audience member, he said he didn't meet with them, he just heard that they said it. ::)

Subject: Re: A New Endorsement for Kerry

Written By: Hairspray on 03/17/04 at 10:16 p.m.

Kerry hinders the democrat's chance to win the election, IMO.

Personally, I'll never forget the day when Saddam was captured, all he could do was continually attempt to cloud the good news of his capture with negative political rhetoric which was ill placed, ill timed and completely inappropriate.

I'm no fan of Bush either.

I'm utterly disillusioned with the whole election process and politics altogether. :P

Subject: Re: A New Endorsement for Kerry

Written By: Rice Cube on 03/17/04 at 10:23 p.m.

When in doubt, vote for Nader :D

Subject: Re: A New Endorsement for Kerry

Written By: Hairspray on 03/17/04 at 10:36 p.m.


Quoting:
When in doubt, vote for Nader :D
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Wouldn't it be something if the nation elected an independent candidate for president? :o ;D

Realistically, that would never happen.

Subject: Re: A New Endorsement for Kerry

Written By: Rice Cube on 03/17/04 at 11:15 p.m.

I think I speak for all Millard Fillmore fans when I say, "Bring back the Whigs!"

;D

Subject: Re: A New Endorsement for Kerry

Written By: Billy_Florio on 03/18/04 at 09:14 a.m.


Quoting:


Wouldn't it be something if the nation elected an independent candidate for president? :o ;D

Realistically, that would never happen.
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1860

Subject: Re: A New Endorsement for Kerry

Written By: Billy_Florio on 03/18/04 at 09:19 a.m.

3rd party candiatate was elected that year........


plus, many third parties got huge amounts of votes in elections:

Teddy Roosevelt's Bull Moose Party
William Jennings Bryan's Populist party
John Anderson in 1980 (what was his parties name?)
Ross Perot's Reform Party in 1992
Strom THurman's Dixie Crats

plus, other parties, though not getting many votes, have made a huge influence on the elections:
Nader's Green party
Eugene V Debbs's Socialist Party
the Know-Nothing Party
THe Greenback party
etc etc etc

Subject: Re: A New Endorsement for Kerry

Written By: CatwomanofV on 03/18/04 at 09:34 a.m.


Quoting:
3rd party candiatate was elected that year........


plus, many third parties got huge amounts of votes in elections:

Teddy Roosevelt's Bull Moose Party
William Jennings Bryan's Populist party
John Anderson in 1980 (what was his parties name?)
Ross Perot's Reform Party in 1992
Strom THurman's Dixie Crats

plus, other parties, though not getting many votes, have made a huge influence on the elections:
Nader's Green party
Eugene V Debbs's Socialist Party
the Know-Nothing Party
THe Greenback party
etc etc etc

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This is why I think we should have instant run-off voting. You RANK the candidates in order of your choice. If a candidate doesn't get 50% of votes, the person in last place gets knocked out, and all those who voted for that person, would have their second choice person be counted. It goes that way until one candidate gets 50%. That way there will not be a spoiler, your vote will not be "wasted" on a third party candidate, and you are not voting for the "Lesser of two evils"



Cat

Subject: Re: A New Endorsement for Kerry

Written By: LyricBoy on 03/18/04 at 02:35 p.m.

The Bush Campaign is making some hay over a really idiotic comment made by Kerry.

Apparently, a few days ago, Kerry was asked why he did not vote for the $87 billion Iraq appropriation.  What Kerry said was:

"Actually I voted FOR the $87 billion before I voted AGAINST it."

The Bush campaign has just added the sound clip of this quote to its latest TV ad.

Classic.   ;)

Subject: Re: A New Endorsement for Kerry

Written By: Hairspray on 03/18/04 at 03:00 p.m.


Quoting:

1860
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Ooops. I guess I should have added the word "today" to my statement:

Wouldn't it be something if the nation elected an independent candidate for president?  

Realistically, that would never happen today.

Subject: Re: A New Endorsement for Kerry

Written By: Hairspray on 03/18/04 at 03:04 p.m.


Quoting:
This is why I think we should have instant run-off voting. You RANK the candidates in order of your choice. If a candidate doesn't get 50% of votes, the person in last place gets knocked out, and all those who voted for that person, would have their second choice person be counted. It goes that way until one candidate gets 50%. That way there will not be a spoiler, your vote will not be "wasted" on a third party candidate, and you are not voting for the "Lesser of two evils"


Cat
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Sounds good to me.

Subject: Re: A New Endorsement for Kerry

Written By: LyricBoy on 03/18/04 at 04:00 p.m.


Quoting:

This is why I think we should have instant run-off voting. You RANK the candidates in order of your choice. If a candidate doesn't get 50% of votes, the person in last place gets knocked out, and all those who voted for that person, would have their second choice person be counted. It goes that way until one candidate gets 50%. That way there will not be a spoiler, your vote will not be "wasted" on a third party candidate, and you are not voting for the "Lesser of two evils"

Cat
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Actually, I would prefer an approach that was first suggested by General George S. Patton.  In his case he proposed this as a way to fight a war, but in today's environment it would be good for elections:

"What I would like to do is just go at it with the other General.  Just him against me.  We would both show up with our tanks, about fifty paces apart.  We'd get out, meet in the middle and shake hands.  Then we'd get in our tanks, button up, and blast away.  Winner takes all.  It would be one he** of alot cheaper than war and would not waste all those lives..."

Subject: Re: A New Endorsement for Kerry

Written By: Mr_80s on 03/19/04 at 02:40 p.m.

Well, now we are seeing who some of these "World Leaders" that Kerry says are supporting him.  And it seems like a truely illustrious list too.  They include:

*Kim Jung Il, of North Korea, has repeatedly said that the current American government will lead to the down downfall of his poor country.  If his government is to prosper he must have massive amounts of American money and he knows that Senator Kerry will provide it like President Clinton with no strings attached.  Kerry has alreadyh stated that he would reduce (and possibly eliminate) US presence along the DMZ with South Korea.  This worries me, since Kerry was one of those that proposed invading N. Korea instead of Iraq, claiming they were a bigger threat.  Of course, N. Korea also bamboozled Clinton by agreeing to dismantle their nuclear program in exchange for billions in aid, then claimed they never really abandoned it and kicked out the inspectors.

*Fidel Castro, of Cuba, has openly stated that there is no chance for his island nation to prosper, while the United States continues to repress his population.  He says that Senator Kerry knows, respects and totally agrees what he is trying to do with his nation.  Fidel says that Senator Kerry is the only American qualified.  (I find it interesting, in that it was Democrat John Kennedy that started the embargo on Cuba in the first place)

*Gerhard Schröder of Germany and M. Jacques Chirac of France both agree that the world of socialism would be in much better position to take on the world of free enterprise and capitalism without George Bush as President of the United States.

*Mahathir Mohamad, who as Malaysia's soft-on-terrorism prime minister last year urged fellow Muslim leaders to achieve a "final victory" over the Jews who "rule the world by proxy," today endorsed Kerry's effort to defeat President Bush.  "I think Kerry would be much more willing to listen to the voices of people and of the rest of the world," Mahathir, who retired in October after 22 years in power, told the Associated Press.  "But in the U.S., the Jewish lobby is very strong, and any American who wants to become president cannot change the policy toward Palestine radically," he said.


Of course, these are just the sort I would expect to endorse Kerry.  I doubt very much that President Bush is very upset about their endoring his opponent.