Just out of curiosity, what are the gas prices near where you live right now?

In my neck of the woods, they started going back up today, after going down a little.

Hm...who could this 'guest' be?

Has Gordie Brown sneaked onto the board to annoy me?!!

At the mo', I'm splashing out anything between 78-84 pence per litre for unleaded...probably different around various parts of the country...

90-odd% of that price is TAX...wonderful way this country operates...!!

For me? Ten quid a month. I walk to work and then take a lift home from a friend. Walking about 3 miles after 10:00 at night is not the best thing to do.

Hm...who could this 'guest' be?

Has Gordie Brown sneaked onto the board to annoy me?!!

At the mo', I'm splashing out anything between 78-84 pence per litre for unleaded...probably different around various parts of the country...

90-odd% of that price is TAX...wonderful way this country operates...!!

The guest is me! I use the ellipsis mark as my pseudonym. I do sometimes spell it out though.

Anyway... where I live, the gas is currently over two dollars a gallon at just about all the stations. :-\\

Heh! Just kidding! Gordie Brown (you probably wasn't wondering) is our 'beloved' Chancellor whose governmental department sets the tax and duty limits...

Petrol (Gas) being just one of many...

I'll give you an illustration how bad it is (I assume you're American) - your equivalent gallon over here would amount to nearly seven dollars...ouch...!!

Hmm, ours is around $1.70 per gallon.  Not too bad compared to most of y'alls....but perhaps that's a benefit of living in Oklahoma.  ;)

I'll give you an illustration how bad it is (I assume you're American) - your equivalent gallon over here would amount to nearly seven dollars...ouch...!!

I'm the type of person who never complains about gas. But if it were that expensive over here in Canada  :o, nobody who'd drive anymore.

For a litre in Canada, it's about CAD 0.80 or approx. GBP 0.33

I really don't want to talk about gas prices. I will say that if the price of regular goes up to $2.00 per gallon, then I will have to use bussing more often. >:(

I drove past a Shell today where the price was $1.04 per litre! That's about $US3 a gallon!

I drove past a Shell today where the price was $1.04 per litre! That's about $US3 a gallon!


Powerslave, what's your location?

Here in western Mass. I paid $1.81 per gal. at Shell for regular grade yesterday.  That's about the highest I've paid so far.  I anticipate it'll get worse over the summer.
>:(

My feeling on gas prices is this:

If you put it in perspective, just how high are they?

Think about it.  Some people pay nearly $3.00 for a cup of Starbucks on a daily basis, then turn around and complain about gas prices.  Same goes with certain brands of "premium" water going for about $3.00/gallon, yet people still buy those with no complaints.

There was a report on one of the news shows that showed how much many of the normal things we buy in small amounts would cost per gallon...such as Pepto Bismol, Windex, Toilet cleaners, etc etc.  WHen you think about it, gas is very cheap compared to the things we buy in small amounts on a dailiy basis and don't even think about.

Yes I hate paying more for gas, but when I put it in perspective of the other things we buy every day without a second thought, I really don't feel like we should be compaining.

My feeling on gas prices is this:

If you put it in perspective, just how high are they?

Think about it.  Some people pay nearly $3.00 for a cup of Starbucks on a daily basis, then turn around and complain about gas prices.  Same goes with certain brands of "premium" water going for about $3.00/gallon, yet people still buy those with no complaints.


Yeah, but I don't drink three gallons of coffee a day.  Not quite anyway. 8)
More to the point.  One has a choice whether to buy other products.  Your comparison has merit when you consider the actual value of gasoline with other fluids we consume.  However, if you drive a car you MUST buy gas.  Oil prices are set through a collusion of the oil companies, OPEC, and our government.  There's no mom & pop discount oil corporation operating independently of these influences.  Thus, we consumers feel powerless because we're at the mercy of forces we can't control.

$2.24 for regular unleaded.  >:(  It keeps going up!!!

I was thinking about restarting this topic when I was filling my car last night.

I paid 79.9 p a litre for unleaded.  My hubby fills his car in the town where he works and pays only 74p.  (Note to self: get hubby to take my car to ork when the tank needs filling!)

Powerslave, what's your location?

Here in western Mass. I paid $1.81 per gal. at Shell for regular grade yesterday.  That's about the highest I've paid so far.  I anticipate it'll get worse over the summer.
>:(


In some parts of Boston you can pay as much as $2.25/gallon. In Salem, MA, where I work, average price is $1.80/gal... in Fitchrburg (Western) MA, it's as low as $1.40/gal.

I just paid $1.94/gallon today for 89 octane w/10% ethanol (the cheapest option) here in Lincoln. My ass still hurts. >:( Time to start riding my bike to work.

I just paid $1.94/gallon today for 89 octane w/10% ethanol (the cheapest option) here in Lincoln. My ass still hurts. >:( Time to start riding my bike to work.

Do you ever go "outstate"?  I know a kid from Alliance.  I asked him, "What do you do out there?" He replied, "Not much."
:-\\

Do you ever go "outstate"?  I know a kid from Alliance.  I asked him, "What do you do out there?" He replied, "Not much."
:-\\
I don't get out to the western part of Nebraska too much.  I have been out to Alliance before, and while it is true there's not all that much to do out there, I do like to get out that way once in a while because I think the Sandhills region of the state is pretty cool. If your friend ventures out east toward Lincoln he almost surely takes State Hwy. 2, which IMHO is one of the most scenic drives in Nebraska. (Although considering the f**king gas prices and the fact that I drive a Mercury Grand Marquis, I highly doubt I'll be moseying out that way anytime soon.)

I never understood why they have to charge so much more, per gallon, for full serve. Seriously. I mean, there are some people who can't pump their own gas and need the attendant to do it.

Another thing I've never understood is the "fraction-of-a-cent". What I mean is, all the prices have a "9/10ths" suffix; I don't know why. For example, if one gallon of gas is $1.859, and you got exactly one gallon, you can't cut your penny into ten pieces and give 'em only nine; U.S. currency doesn't work that way. Wouldn't you really be paying $1.86? ::)

I never understood why they have to charge so much more, per gallon, for full serve. Seriously. I mean, there are some people who can't pump their own gas and need the attendant to do it.




I took part in a focus group discussing our (bunch of females) attitudes to cars and car ownership.  We discussed how much routine servicing etc we could do on our cars and one woman confessed she has never put petrol into her own car let alone topped up the oil etc.  She drives out of her way to go to the only attendant serviced petrol station here or she gets someone else to fill the car for her (which is o.k. if they pay  ;) )  The rest of the group were just totally amazed at this.

It's $2.29 where I live and going up.  I've heard it will reach $3.00 by summer, but that's in NYC, I didn't hear if the rest of the country will go that high.  What a coincidence, isn't it?  Gas prices going up just about the time everyone takes summer vacations.

I don't think it's a coincidence.  They are always higher in the summer ???



I know it's not a coincidence.  It does always go higher in the summer, but $3.00 a gallon? :D

I know it's not a coincidence.  It does always go higher in the summer, but $3.00 a gallon? :D

That would be frightening. :o

Powerslave, what's your location?



I live in Australia, where 80% of the oil used for petrol production is domestic. Most of the oil we import comes from SE Asia and is mostly used in industry. In the state where I live, the prices are even higher than they are elsewhere because it's taxed three times. Tonight I paid $50 for gas and I didn't even fill the tank.

Its $2.28 in Southern California for regular unleaded.
We're still getting the "switching to summer blends" excuse, which is BS, and it's predicted that we'll see $3.00 a gallon by late summer (and I believe it).
What a lot of people don't realize is that the cost of diesel is also up and that rise in cost to operate the heavy trucks that deliver our goods are effecting us in other ways...

A large group of local container truck operators stopped their trucks on the 710 (freeway liking LA to ports of LA, & Long Beach) to protest the high fuel costs and shut down traffic for the whole day a week ago. >:(
So not only do we have to bend over and take it at the pumps, we have angry truckers to deal with too..

My feeling on gas prices is this:

If you put it in perspective, just how high are they?

Think about it.  Some people pay nearly $3.00 for a cup of Starbucks on a daily basis, then turn around and complain about gas prices.  Same goes with certain brands of "premium" water going for about $3.00/gallon, yet people still buy those with no complaints.

There was a report on one of the news shows that showed how much many of the normal things we buy in small amounts would cost per gallon...such as Pepto Bismol, Windex, Toilet cleaners, etc etc.  WHen you think about it, gas is very cheap compared to the things we buy in small amounts on a dailiy basis and don't even think about.

Yes I hate paying more for gas, but when I put it in perspective of the other things we buy every day without a second thought, I really don't feel like we should be compaining.




We had a talk like this on the old board right? But yes, we shouldn't complain.

My feeling on gas prices is this:

If you put it in perspective, just how high are they?

Think about it.  Some people pay nearly $3.00 for a cup of Starbucks on a daily basis, then turn around and complain about gas prices.  Same goes with certain brands of "premium" water going for about $3.00/gallon, yet people still buy those with no complaints.

There was a report on one of the news shows that showed how much many of the normal things we buy in small amounts would cost per gallon...such as Pepto Bismol, Windex, Toilet cleaners, etc etc.  WHen you think about it, gas is very cheap compared to the things we buy in small amounts on a dailiy basis and don't even think about.

Yes I hate paying more for gas, but when I put it in perspective of the other things we buy every day without a second thought, I really don't feel like we should be compaining.





I don't know about you, but I don't buy 52 gallons of toilet cleaner, bottled water or coffee a week. I doubt we'd use that much in a year. I use that much gas every week, and I only have a small Toyota with excellent mileage. Plus, if I needed to, I could give up buying coffee, bottled water or toilet cleaner for a while. I can't not buy gas, because I need to drive my car to get to work. When you work 46 miles from where you live, it's a bit difficult to walk there.

Plus, if I needed to, I could give up buying coffee, bottled water or toilet cleaner for a while


Thats good, you're the exception. :)

My point was that many people who refuse to give up their expensive little luxuries like $3.00/cup Starbucks or $3.00/gal "premium" water, etc, will then complain about gas.

I saw this on the news last night.
Has anyone checked this out before? ???

http://gasbuddy.com

:)

Yesterday, Holyoke, Mass., $2.15 a gallon for any grade.  Highest I've seen yet in this state.  The service station wouldn't even post the prices on the signs, only on the computer read on the pumps themselves.  It's gonna be a long, expensive summer!
:\'(

I saw this on the news last night.
Has anyone checked this out before? ???

http://gasbuddy.com

:)


No, I haven't checked it out before! Thanks for sharing this link! I've always been familiar with the gaspricewatch.com website (if I remember the URL correctly; but it was something like that).

I saw this on the news last night.
Has anyone checked this out before? ???

http://gasbuddy.com

:)



I've never been there before, but our local news does a similar service each night/day showing the cheapest stations in town.

What I still can't figure out, is how there can be such a huge price difference between stations, in some cases only a few blocks away from each other.

For example.  Downtown, there is a BP station that this morning was $2.08/gal.  And no more than 300 feet down the street, there is a Kroger station that was only $1.89/gal.  Some days, like last week, when it hit $2.13, the Kroger station still remained below $1.99. 

I just don't get it.  Seems like there is some price-gouging going on. 

There is reason that gas price are so high though. Fuel is a NONE renewable resource and for the past 50 years we have been eating it like its nothing. And people are now angry that it cost 70$ to fill up there SUVs, well-boo-freaking-hoo. It's about time that we actually realized that we are going to run out of gas with fossil fuels (i know bad pun). I just think that as a collective we all have to wake up and look for a better solution, or even just DRIVE LESS. Not just complain about how expensive gas pricing is. If you had to add in the the price of environmental derogation thats caused by  fossil fuels to out planet then it would have been far to expensive to use a long time ago anyways.

There is reason that gas price are so high though. Fuel is a NONE renewable resource and for the past 50 years we have been eating it like its nothing. And people are now angry that it cost 70$ to fill up there SUVs, well-boo-freaking-hoo. It's about time that we actually realized that we are going to run out of gas with fossil fuels (i know bad pun). I just think that as a collective we all have to wake up and look for a better solution, or even just DRIVE LESS. Not just complain about how expensive gas pricing is. If you had to add in the the price of environmental derogation thats caused by  fossil fuels to out planet then it would have been far to expensive to use a long time ago anyways.

Totally agree with you Kitten, but alas it isn't that simple, nothing in life ever is.
I would like to drive less, but I live in southern California. I live 24 miles away from work, the job that will support me so I can live & pay my bills. It takes about 40 mins to get to work with regular traffic, sometimes more, much more time than that to get home.

That means I HAVE to have a car, if I want a life. I tried public transport when I first moved here.
As most know public transportation in LA sucks :P  I had to get up at 5am to get to work by 9 and that still included a 10 block walk. Taking the bus and light rail back got me home at about 10pm, with only 6 hours to eat, sleep and just live, well, I couldn't make it living like that (I feel for the lot of poor folks out there make do public transit).

In the last 8 years most business, corprate and state ,have done away with company & state ssponsoredvanpools/ridsharing and the like.
What we all need to do is to get our ggovernmentback into these ridesharing/conservation programs again or at least we're going to have to bite the bullet to pay more taxes for better public transportation.

But we can't even get Gov'ner Terminator to even pay our public school teachers or universitys the funds they need...

Until we make those changes in our governmentsand public transport, if we don't offer a reasonable alternative to driving our own (empty) 4-pass automobile nothing will change and the average Joe will not drive less...

That 2.00+ gas is finally out here, and now I miss my 4-cylinder!
:\'(

My point was that many people who refuse to give up their expensive little luxuries like $3.00/cup Starbucks or $3.00/gal "premium" water, etc, will then complain about gas.


Well anyone who can afford to pay $3 for coffee (in Australian money, that's about $6.50. I've never been to a Starbucks here, but if that's what their coffee costs, I ain't ever gonna, neither) probably doesn't have any right to complain about gas prices, but I don't think the article you mentioned is a fair comparison. Most things we buy in small quantities would cost more than gas per gallon, but we also don't need to buy them by the gallon. If I bought 50 gallons of Pepsi, I'd probably get a bulk discount, yet gas costs me the same per gallon whether I buy 1 gallon or 100 gallons.

Totally agree with you Kitten, but alas it isn't that simple, nothing in life ever is.
I would like to drive less, but I live in southern California. I live 24 miles away from work, the job that will support me so I can live & pay my bills. It takes about 40 mins to get to work with regular traffic, sometimes more, much more time than that to get home.

That means I HAVE to have a car, if I want a life. I tried public transport when I first moved here.
As most know public transportation in LA sucks :P  I had to get up at 5am to get to work by 9 and that still included a 10 block walk. Taking the bus and light rail back got me home at about 10pm, with only 6 hours to eat, sleep and just live, well, I couldn't make it living like that (I feel for the lot of poor folks out there make do public transit).

In the last 8 years most business, corprate and state ,have done away with company & state ssponsoredvanpools/ridsharing and the like.
What we all need to do is to get our ggovernmentback into these ridesharing/conservation programs again or at least we're going to have to bite the bullet to pay more taxes for better public transportation.

But we can't even get Gov'ner Terminator to even pay our public school teachers or universitys the funds they need...

Until we make those changes in our governmentsand public transport, if we don't offer a reasonable alternative to driving our own (empty) 4-pass automobile nothing will change and the average Joe will not drive less...


It can be difficult to just "drive less". I live 45 miles from where I work, so not driving there is an incredible hassle. Nevertheless, I do agree with Kitten to some extent in regards to SUVs. Sure, it's personal choice, but is it really necessary to buy an SUV? Unless you need to tow a boat or something I can't see the benefit of owning one just to run around in the city. I came in one night while my wife was watching Oprah and this woman had given her husband a Hummer as a gift! Why would anyone want to drive a vehicle that only gets 5mi/gal? It's madness!

Ok, I worked it all out: gas prices in the UK are currently at about 81.9p per liter. This works out as £3.10 per gallon, which then converted into dollars comes to $5.47 per gallon! And the current price isn't too different from regular prices (about 75p per liter normally.) The thing is that 80-90% of the price is tax, going straight to the government.

People are always bashing SUVs but to me they may not be the only problem.

Most gas is wasted by an engine idling - at the stop light, in the fast food drive thru and in traffic. That's a lot of energy wasted to keep your car's battery charged.

A six cylinder SUV is going to get better gas milage than most 8 cylinder cars. A 6 cylinder SUV that gets say 10mpg, driven 100 miles a week (10 gallons of gas used) is using less gas overall than a 4 cylinder that gets 20mpg but is driven over 200 miles per week.

It's not just gas milage, it's how many miles a vehicle is driven and the amount of time spent in wasteful engine idle.

If people wanted to save some petrol they could go inside instead of the drive thru (which have only been around since like 1984?) or maybe, (gasp) try to live closer to work?

:)

Yeah, if you saw the house prices near hubby's work, you'd be doing more than gasping.  We paid 1/3 of what we'd pay for our exact same house if it was located near his office.

And, I agree with the mpg:miles driven correlation.  I get around 18 mpg with my Expedition, but I only drive (on average) 20-30 miles per week.  Compare that to hubby's car, which gets 30+, but is driven (on average) 300-400 miles per week.

80s_cheerleader where I work it's not uncommon to have people live 50-60 miles from work! They do it because there's an interstate nearby and they want to. For me, I couldn't handle the drive in and back. To each his/her own, but a lot of gas is wasted on the interstate highways every morning and late afternoon.
;) :)

Ack!! :o I just visited the gaspricewatch.com website (which tells you the highest, lowest, and average U.S. prices on the homepage), and some place actually had it above THREE DOLLARS! It was Bridgeport, CA; I have no idea where that is.

I REALLY feel like going postal over these darn gas prices.  Normally, it costs me about $18.00 to fill up my tank.  This morning it cost me $23.95 to fill up!  Just to think a few months ago I was complaining about paying the 18 bucks!  Geez...now ....I wish it were 18 bucks again!!!  >:(

The rising gas prices will stall the slowly recovering economy, IMO.

Yesterday I paid $2.05 for 87 grade here in Hadley, Mass., $22.30 and my tank wasn't even on "E."  Still, it's better than $3.00+ in California.
Not to worry, they'll find a way to pin this on the Dems.

Went up again...$2.31

In Brisbane at the moment, doing the conversion, it's $ 3.80 per US Gallon

Curent currency conversion is about 69 cents US to an Australian Dollar, so :

US $ 2.58/gallon  ::)

And Brisbane is the cheapest of all the Aus capitals because our State Government gives us a fuel rebate of about 8 cents per litre (30 cents per gallon)

So in southern states at present it is about $ 3.00 US a gallon

Just fueled up Wednesday for $1.98/gallon. Thursday it jumped another 6 cents.

They're finally nearly at $2 per gallon....just like the experts predicted would happen back in 1979...at the END of the Carter debacle....his presidency :P  I also heard that we were kinda spoiled up to this point and now gas prices are right where they're supposed to be ???

They're finally nearly at $2 per gallon....just like the experts predicted would happen back in 1979...at the END of the Carter debacle....his presidency :P  I also heard that we were kinda spoiled up to this point and now gas prices are right where they're supposed to be ???
This reminds me of something I saw in a book by the writers of the Onion which spoofed historical events of the 20th century. There was an article parodying the 1980 presidential election, in which the candidates outlined their platforms. Underneath a picture of Jimmy Carter was the caption, "Let's Talk Better Mileage." Underneath Reagan's picture was, "Kill The Bastards." ;D

They're finally nearly at $2 per gallon....just like the experts predicted would happen back in 1979...at the END of the Carter debacle....his presidency :P  I also heard that we were kinda spoiled up to this point and now gas prices are right where they're supposed to be ???


According to an inflation calculator I found $2.00 in 1979, is equal to $5.31 in 2002 (it doesn't go to 2004) and $2.00 today (2002) would be $.75 in 1979 (for the same products). 8)

Some would say the year 1979, is worth more than year 2004 anyway ;D

:)

This reminds me of something I saw in a book by the writers of the Onion which spoofed historical events of the 20th century. There was an article parodying the 1980 presidential election, in which the candidates outlined their platforms. Underneath a picture of Jimmy Carter was the caption, "Let's Talk Better Mileage." Underneath Reagan's picture was, "Kill The Bastards." ;D
;D No wonder Reagan won by a Land-slide over peanut boy...let the liberals say what they may but those elections he won speak for themselves. And to give the clinton cronies some kudo's...thier boy won twice as well...maybe he could've satified the cold witch Hillary had he used his nose for something else other than lying to a grand jury!http://elouai.com/images/yahoo/55.gif

ours is about 2.20 a gallon i don't drive that much since i live so close to downtown so it doesn't hurt my pocketbook but sucks for those who have to drive any distance at all :-\\

Time to lighten this thread up  ;D

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In Brisbane at the moment, doing the conversion, it's $ 3.80 per US Gallon

Curent currency conversion is about 69 cents US to an Australian Dollar, so :

US $ 2.58/gallon  ::)

And Brisbane is the cheapest of all the Aus capitals because our State Government gives us a fuel rebate of about 8 cents per litre (30 cents per gallon)

So in southern states at present it is about $ 3.00 US a gallon


It's actually more than $3.00 a gallon, here.  I'm too tired to be bothered converting it, but I saw it at AU$1.12 on the weekend !

Driving will become a luxury here soon. :(

Time to lighten this thread up  ;D



And you did ! Love the bowser ones in particular ! ;D

Time to lighten this thread up  ;D




Too funny!   ;D

In Queens, NY, gas is now $2.30 for regular, $2.49 for unleaded, and $2.69 for premium.  I'm sure it will be hovering around $3.00 by the end of June.

Fussbudget,
Thanks for the 'toons!  Sometimes humor is the best medicine.
;D

You would think that auto manufacturers would have now invented an engine (or carburetor) that can actually get mileage around at least 100 MPG.  >:( What's with vehicles only getting around 8 or 9 MPG.  >:( >:( >:( But the World is ruled by Oil Companies, and that won't happen for a while.   :\'(

You would think that auto manufacturers would have now invented an engine (or carburetor) that can actually get mileage around at least 100 MPG.  >:( What's with vehicles only getting around 8 or 9 MPG.  >:( >:( >:( But the World is ruled by Oil Companies, and that won't happen for a while.   :\'(

At least, you would think more Americans would have enough confidense in their personal endowments to drive, ahem, little cars that get 50 mpg.
I remember in the late '70s and early '80s, auto manufacturers proudly displaced MPGs in their ads.  Whatever happened to those days?

You would think that auto manufacturers would have now invented an engine (or carburetor) that can actually get mileage around at least 100 MPG.  >:( What's with vehicles only getting around 8 or 9 MPG.  >:( >:( >:( But the World is ruled by Oil Companies, and that won't happen for a while.   :\'(


Yes, it's odd. For a while there avg. gas milage was getting better every year or so, then things started shifting toward horsepower. They're getting incredible horsepower out of auto engines nowadays and decent gas milage too, but if they gave up some horsies they could do even better with the MPG.
:)

At least, you would think more Americans would have enough confidense in their personal endowments to drive, ahem, little cars that get 50 mpg.

At least then, you wouldn't hear as many people complain about gas prices.  ;)

At least, you would think more Americans would have enough confidense in their personal endowments to drive, ahem, little cars that get 50 mpg.

Supply and Demand...again.

People have spoken.  They don't want little rollerskates with seats and steering wheel...despite the high gas prices.  SUV's sales numbers are rising annually.


Consumer choice is a good thing. ;)

Supply and Demand...again.

People have spoken.  They don't want little rollerskates with seats and steering wheel...despite the high gas prices.  SUV's sales numbers are rising annually.

Consumer choice is a good thing. ;)


Agree somewhat, that part of the problem is with the popularity of SUV's and trucks, BUT note that SUV and large truck sales have FALLEN in the last sales quarter, ask a Ford dealer trying to sell a Expedition or a Toyota dealer trying to move a Sequoia nowadays, they just aren't moving like they used to. Why do you think Ford stopped production of the super-elephant sized, gas-guzzling Excursion?

Some of the blame goes to us, the consumer, a lot to the automakers, and a lot to our easily lobbied congress...
Once the $$, profits and demand for SUV's/trucks shot up over the last 15 years, the automakers just about lobbied the CAFE (Corprate Average Fuel Economy) standards out of existence, there wasn't much incentive for car makers to really try to make more fuel efficient cars (or SUV's or trucks for that matter).

Every year new proposals for a standard benchmark for truck and SUV fuel economy (and saftey) is proposed, and each year the automkers, with enough $$ and lobbists, shoot it down. I'm not talking about just US companies, Toyota & Subaru wiggled out of the regulations this year.

...if you think for a moment that the automotive giants that be cannot or don't already have the ability to produce a 50mpg car...
Toyota and Honda both have hybrids that push very close to 50mpg. VW has TDI (diesel) motors that get 40mpg. Ford is now producing a hybrid version of the Escape (SUV) with more to come. Honda already is market testing a hydrogen/fuel cell car in CA.

So, if the consumers really want better MPG, then they do have a choice. The Toyata Hybrid is pretty damn popular here, and is selling well. We'll see just how much gas prices play a part in what we drive just yet..

BTW, don't equate more horsepower with a loss in MPG, actually just the opposite. The reason we're getting 225-300hp out of 4cly motors nowadays is because of better enginered & efficient motors, which by defalt will burn cleaner, produce more HP per less amout of fuel, and as a result better MPG. In an engineers perfect world, high HP and MPG should go hand in hand. Engineering a motor to make less HP in ordrer to make better MPG usually results in a less efficient motor and wasted energy (more accelerating, more work for the transmission/shifting, keeping up with traffic, etc., ever driven a Geo Metro?) in the long run.

I agree with Fred here.  The Super Rich, those who don't have to budget their mone, will drive whatever the like, no matter what the cost. But I'll bet if the price of gasoline went up to three bucks a gallon AND STAYED THERE, you'd see a huuuge drop off in sales of SUVs among the hoi poloi!  It might not have to get to three dollars, if it stayed in the two dollar range without let up, you'd see a similar trend.  Right now we're all anticipating prices will come down in a few weeks or months.  If you could count on your at-pump costs eating a hole in your pocket, those rollerskates-with-steering wheels might put a twinkle in your eye.
I drive an Accura sedan (she's old, but she's paid for!), a six cylinder.  Right now I miss that four cylinder Geo Prizm I had seven years ago.
:\'(

I agree with Fred here.  The Super Rich, those who don't have to budget their mone, will drive whatever the like, no matter what the cost. But I'll bet if the price of gasoline went up to three bucks a gallon AND STAYED THERE, you'd see a huuuge drop off in sales of SUVs among the hoi poloi! 

Once again, you generalize.

Guess what, I am definitely not "super rich", in fact not even close.  But, I bought a Chevy Trailblazer. 

Why?  Becasue I wanted to and could. ;)

Of course I knew the not so good mileage before I bought it.  But, I wanted it, and I bought it.  And at the sma etime, I don't walk around whining about gas prices all day either.  I knew what I was buying, otherwise I wouldn't have signed the papers.  And if gas goes up to $3, I will be putting $3 gas in my Trailblaser.  Life goes on.

Once again, you generalize.

Guess what, I am definitely not "super rich", in fact not even close.  But, I bought a Chevy Trailblazer. 

Why?  Becasue I wanted to and could. ;)

Of course I knew the not so good mileage before I bought it.  But, I wanted it, and I bought it.  And at the sma etime, I don't walk around whining about gas prices all day either.  I knew what I was buying, otherwise I wouldn't have signed the papers.  And if gas goes up to $3, I will be putting $3 gas in my Trailblaser.  Life goes on.

Oh-bla-di!  Yes, I generalize.  If I didn't generalize, my posting would be 100 paragraphs long!  A lot of guys will pump $3 gas into their SUVs and say "life goes on."  Others will do some quick calculations and decide to trade in for a Honda, and be able to pay off the mortgage instead!

Oh-bla-di!  Yes, I generalize.  If I didn't generalize, my posting would be 100 paragraphs long!  A lot of guys will pump $3 gas into their SUVs and say "life goes on."  Others will do some quick calculations and decide to trade in for a Honda, and be able to pay off the mortgage instead!


Luckily we have freedom of choice here. ;)

I could have went for the Honda, but went for a gas-gussler instead...becasue I could.


Anyone that wants a Honda can buy a Honda.  In the meantime, I will keep gussling gas in my SUV...with a big smile on my face. :)

Do I wanna talk about gas prices?

No. Not really.

But thanks for asking!

And, some of us will pump the $3 gas into our SUV's and still complain as we don't have much choice.  Until they make a minivan or a hybrid that can get me through 2' of snow, and drive on snowy roads that haven't been plowed, or get me through roads that are flooded with 3 kids, a stroller, diaper bag, 2 car seats and assorted groceries, etc. I will be pumping and complaining.

Soon there will be enough customer demand for a hybrid minivan that can handle all that.  You do raise a good point.  In many of the European countries where they drive those tiny four cylinder cars, they don't have the same hellish winter road conitions as you get in many areas of North America.  The Scandinavians seem to do alright with their Volvos, and the Germans build some good cars for winter conditions in the snowier terrain of that country.  They still pay $4.00 a gallon for gas.  Another factor you have to add in North America is the distances people travel.  A lot rural residents drive 100+ miles a day all year round.  Such mileage is extremely rare in Europe, as far as I know.

Well they haven't gone any higher in my neck of the woods. They haven't gone lower, either, but ya never know. :-\\

Gas is around $1.98 to $2.25 depending where you buy.  You now this has been an incidious work of brilliant economics and marketing by the industry. For many years each spring gas prices have risen, the media and gas folks have blamed it on anything they felt the public would swallow. In the fall the prices would go down BUT NEVER TO WHERE THEY WERE BEFORE THEY WENT UP IN THE SPRING! Therefore we were behind a few cents going into the next cycle but by that time any decrease was welcomed. Next spring same thing.......and it will happen again this fall.  The greatest bs argument is the one that we are actrually paying less then ever because cars get much better gas mileage that they did when gas was under a buck. Yea but the buck is worth a heck of a lot less.

Gas is around $1.98 to $2.25 depending where you buy.  You now this has been an incidious work of brilliant economics and marketing by the industry. For many years each spring gas prices have risen, the media and gas folks have blamed it on anything they felt the public would swallow. In the fall the prices would go down BUT NEVER TO WHERE THEY WERE BEFORE THEY WENT UP IN THE SPRING! Therefore we were behind a few cents going into the next cycle but by that time any decrease was welcomed. Next spring same thing.......and it will happen again this fall.  The greatest bs argument is the one that we are actrually paying less then ever because cars get much better gas mileage that they did when gas was under a buck. Yea but the buck is worth a heck of a lot less.

Not to mention the size of cars has increased in the past decade.  Not just SUVs, but the whole fleet is bigger and heavier.  I got my hands a '91 Acura with low mileage.  I'm hanging onto it because I hate making car payments.  Anyway, it's relatively small compared to the sedans of Japanese makes today.  You remember the OPEC embargo of the '70s.  Prices adjusted for inflation went much higher than today.  Following that scare, Japanese cars got more and more popular.  That's when Detroit churned out its first compact losers, the Vega, the Maverick, the Pinto, and so forth.  As soon as Detroit learned how to make a good compact car, like at the end of the '80s, peple had lost interest in conserving.  Remember how every auto advertisement posted MPGs?  You don't see that anymore.  You may again, if this keeps up!

A couple days ago I drove past a gas station that had outrageous full-serve prices. Why are they outrageous? Because they were all above three dollars a gallon! (Now the self-serve ranged from $2.39 to $2.59, which I'm used to seeing by now, but the full serve---;P). Anyway, I could not believe my eyes when I saw $3.29, $3.39, and $3.49 for the FULL serve! I wonder who, in their right mind, would go for that?! Full serve used to mean that the attendant would do more than just pump your gas; he'd look under the hood, check the tire pressure, wash your windows, etc., but they don't do that anymore! >:( Nowadays, they just wanna rip you off! I know I've asked this before, but why do they have to charge so much more, per gallon, for full service?

I know I've asked this before, but why do they have to charge so much more, per gallon, for full service?

I don't know, Mr. Ellipsis. It's beyond my comprehension. ??? ::)

It's gone down a little here in the past month.  It was as high as $2.21/gallon for regular unleaded and now I've seen it as low as $2.09.

My sis drove through Oregon on her way up to WA a few weeks ago and there you're not allowed to pump your own gas or something.  She didn't mention how much it was there.

I'll give you an illustration how bad it is (I assume you're American) - your equivalent gallon over here would amount to nearly seven dollars...ouch...!!


Dang!  And here I thought WE had it bad!  :-[

I spent a bit less today to fill up than a week or so ago.  But it was still $2.20 a gallon for regular old unleaded.  And, though I LOVE it, I'm one of those folks that drive a big old SUV.    :(

Orange, Mass.  $2.06 for cheap grade today.  Never thought I'd be glad to see that!

My sis drove through Oregon on her way up to WA a few weeks ago and there you're not allowed to pump your own gas or something. 


That's true.  I HATE driving through Oregon--it is against the law or whatever to pump your own gas there.  Drives me nuts. I think somebody there set themselves ablaze or something because of pumping their own gas.    :o

My mom never used to mind it--she would go all over trying to find a full service station here (until my sister started to work at AM/PM..then she'd just sit there in her car until my sister came out to do it for her!   ;D)
My dad, on the other hand..whoa boy.  >:( 
He was having his car filled up one night over in Oregon and told the kid he wanted Premium Unleaded--the little twit gave him regular instead.  You should've heard THAT conversation!    :-\\

Me, we've just learned to do all we can to not need gas when we deive through Oregon.  We do have to, of course, occasionaly, but we at least try to avoid it!  ;)

I just filled up my gas-guzzling SUV today and it was over $40.


Yeah, I hear ya there! I try not to let mine get to the "beeping you need gas!" point, but even so, I'm spending aound $30 to fill it up from the halfway point!  :(

Gas has come down to as low as $1.99 today here in the Valley.  :D  $32 to fill up the truck today.

Gas is down to $1.74 here. I've gotta fill up today. Never know when it's gonna shoot back up!

Ours went UP again.   :(

I mean, it was only by 2 cents, but a sign to me to worry about it..  :-\\
I know that often it goes up for the weekends,  but I saw it yesterday, which was only Thursday, so....?

The gas station I usually go to just went down to 1.89.

It took my father almost 60 dollars for gas in his truck a few times. What can you really say about gas prices? They're too high.

Gas is down to $1.74 here. I've gotta fill up today. Never know when it's gonna shoot back up!
You are very fortunate there...here it's hovering anywhere from 1.98 to 2.08 for the low grade! It also didn't help that I watched the movie "Dumb & Dumber" from 1995 and it showed a gas price of 1.09! Those were the days :-\\

I've basically been avoiding this topic because I haven't really wanted to talk about the gas prices; I am well aware that they've been abnormally high the past few months. But now I am in the mood.

I live in Southern California, in the Los Angeles area, where every station around has gas for as little as two bucks a gallon now. Near my home (in oxnard), they've gotten up to about two and a half bucks, but lately they've actually come down a bit. If they'd drop back under two dollars, that would be good. ;)

It was $1.70 at Sams Wednesday night.

It was $1.70 at Sams Wednesday night.

I wish it was like that in So-Cal. ::)

Paid 1.83 for it yesterday but did see it as low as 1.79 in Little Rock Friday

Well I paid 28.00 dollars to fill up my Acura CL. It was unleaded plus though not regular though. 28.00 dollars is like SUV prices. I remember it took me 14.00-16.00 dollars to fill up my late 90's Mazda 626 a few years ago. I used to only take me only 22.00-23.00 dollars I think to fill up the CL. Gas prices are going down but I spent 28.00 dollars the last time to on fuel so I don't notice any price change. I live in New Jersey.

I don't understand how people who own SUV's can pay skrocketing prices for fuel. It would drown my wallet every week. I was looking at a local new paper and they said sales of large SUV's are down 11.2% from last years numbers. Minivan sales up 12.4% from last years numbers. Car Based SUV's(Chrysler Pacifica, Honda CR-V, Toyota RAV4, and Ford Escape.) are up 13.3% from last years numbers. Those statisics were put out before May car sales came out. However in the month of May(I look at Auto sales statistics every month because I am a car fan) SUV sales went up from last years(may 2003) numbers. High gas prices did not stop people from buying SUV's last mointh. Now dealers are putting in their ads in the weeknd papers stuff like free gas for a month.)

Yes, it's odd. For a while there avg. gas milage was getting better every year or so, then things started shifting toward horsepower. They're getting incredible horsepower out of auto engines nowadays and decent gas milage too, but if they gave up some horsies they could do even better with the MPG.
:)


INissan was the manufacturer that pushed the horsepower thing a few years ago with the 255-260 Horsepower 2002 Nissan Maxima. Honda followed that up with the 2002 Acura CL/TL Type S that made 260 horespower. Now you got Nissan Altima's and Honda Accord's making 170-180 horsepower out of a 4 cylinder engine.

I remember in the late '70s and early '80s, auto manufacturers proudly displaced MPGs in their ads.  Whatever happened to those days?

If you notice Honda and Toyota show MPG of their cars in their commercials the last couple of years.

Well they've actually come down in the past week.

Looks like they've come down some more. :)

$1.78 per gallon regular unleaded
$2.01 for premium

I can't complain

$1.78 per gallon regular unleaded
$2.01 for premium

I can't complain

Neither can I. Right now they're just about down to the two-dollar mark.

Neither can I. Right now they're just about down to the two-dollar mark.


Wow, that's so cheap!  Unleaded is about $2.30 - $2.50  where I live.  (I guess I can still complain but trying not too)   I'm ready to start walking or take the bus. 

Where I live, it is 1.79 per gallon, but in another small town close to my hometown, the gas prices were 1.97 per gallon.  ;D  Do you think somebody accidentaly switched the number around, or on purpose just to be mean.

$1.87 in shelby twp michigan for the baby gas ,premium is $2.07 !  my 2 camaros are grounded  because i use the premium in them ! so my gmc jimmy  runs on the baby gas  20 mpg ! 

Down to $1.74 at some stations here!

yay!!! Today I passed by a station that had gas under two dollars a gallon! :D

Hadley, Mass.
Paid $1.83 for the cheap stuff yesterday.  Better than June, but still not as cheap as I'd like to see it.

It's $2.05 over here. That's the cheapest that you can get. :P

It's $1.57 at a gas station near my house.

Down to $1.65 here.

On last check, the Shell station near my home had $2.03 for the low grade, but that was on Monday, I think.

Well the cheapest I've seen in the past week (on any grade) is $1.95 (ignoring the stupid fraction of a cent thing).

They haven't gone any lower...but they haven't gotten any higher either (which is a good thing). If they went down another 20 or 30 cents, that'd be fine with me.

Rats...they're going back up now. This one station that I'm close to is a dime higher than it was a week ago.

Down to $1.69 today where I live!!  :)

I thought I'd bump this topic back up, since I noticed they made a big jump yesterday.

No kidding. Last week the cheapest gas station in town jumped from $1.99 to $2.03 in ONE day. The next day it was $2.07. Wednesday it jumped to $2.13. Then I looked at the sign last night (I can see it from my house) and it's up to f*cking $2.17!!!! That's a massive jump for a span of one week. :P

What's even more ridiculous is for full serve to be THREE dollars a gallon. >:(

$2.05 here in Cleveland. I remember about 4 years or so ago it was $.78 a gallon at one point. 78 cents, lol. That was at the height of the good economy, then Bush took office.

I can beat you all. Yesterday morning gas was at $2.19 (it went up two cents in five days). Last night I looked at the Beacon sign and it said $2.23. WTF?! Pretty soon we won't be able to go anywhere because gas prices will be too flippin' high! >:(

I can beat you all. Yesterday morning gas was at $2.19 (it went up two cents in five days). Last night I looked at the Beacon sign and it said $2.23. WTF?! Pretty soon we won't be able to go anywhere because gas prices will be too flippin' high! >:(

The highest-grade price is up to 2 1/2 dollars a gallon in some places. >:(

I paid $1.91 for low grade in Hadley, Mass., the other day.  Heck, it's still cheaper than gas in most other countries.

They just keep going higher and higher... ::) :-\\

$2.27 over here now. :P

Gotta love California...

$2.27 over here now. :P

Gotta love California...

As a California native and resident, I am well aware of the gas price jump; they're going up a wee bit more every day now, it seems. The high grade is up to $2 1/2 a gallon in stations near where I live; it's unreal! :o :P

It's unreal...they're now averaging two-and-a-half dollars a gallon in my neck of the woods! :o

It's unreal...they're now averaging two-and-a-half dollars a gallon in my neck of the woods! :o


Where is your neck of the woods ?  ???

Average price is between 2 and 2.10 here in Massachusetts.  It ain't gonna down,
I would say, ever again, you can take that to the bank... well not to the bank, the
oil men will be having it all.

It went from about 1.75ish last week to 1.88 for low grade around the Houston area. I hadn't notice the price jump till I filled up my truck and it was over $40 bucks :o CRAP that sux

Maxwellsmart said it, it's still cheaper than gas in most other countries.

Considering America is the largest pollutant on Earth I wouldn't get bent out of shape for having to pay $2 a gallon.... (I would get annoyed at where that $2 is going, but that's another story entirely)

There's a world out there to gain some perspective from... And without trying to sound like a Yoghurt Knitting Tree Hugger (thanks Mike Dicken on TalkSport.net) the cost is always higher for the future generations... but who cares about them, right?

Considering America is the largest pollutant on Earth I wouldn't get bent out of shape for having to pay $2 a gallon.... (I would get annoyed at where that $2 is going, but that's another story entirely)


...$2 a gallon?  If petrol cost that here, I'd be saving more than £1k per year...

Where is your neck of the woods ?  ???




Somewhere in the great state of California. And yours? ???

$2.35 now...give it a couple hours, it will probably go up again. ::)

I thought I'd bring back this thread again. The oil prices have been as high as two and a half dollars a gallon since I last posted here.

They're going down over here finally. Cheapest is now $1.97. :)

For the last 3 days it has been $1.59 at the gas station near my house :o
Filled up the car and truck both on Sunday to make sure I didn't miss out on that!

I'm going to fill mine car up later today so I'll report back after that.  In all honesty I don't check the prices that closely.  I tend to use one or two supermarkets and get points on my loyalty card at the same time.

Well, yesterday it was 82.9p


...per litre (=£3.77 per gallon... somewhere in excess of $7 per gallon).  Some people don't know when they've got it good, do they?

Now I know why I am glad not to own a car!  ::)  ;D

Well, yesterday it was 82.9p


...per litre (=£3.77 per gallon... somewhere in excess of $7 per gallon).  Some people don't know when they've got it good, do they?


I just paid 79.8 per litre for premium unleaded.  The super (which has a higher octane rating) was 81.8.  That was in the local Sainsbury's.

The prices have been going down little by little, but this past weekend at a Shell station, the mid-grade had gone up by 8 cents while the other two grades inched down a couple cents. The sign there showed them as $2.06/$2.28/$2.30. No joke. I think it's strange because there usually isn't a two-cent difference in the grades. $2.18 would have made more sense. ::) After all, the other two stations nearby had $2.15 and $2.19 for the mid-grade, and they were halfway between the low and high octanes at their respective stations. :-\\

$1.67 down the street from my house :)

Well, yesterday it was 82.9p


...per litre (=£3.77 per gallon... somewhere in excess of $7 per gallon).  Some people don't know when they've got it good, do they?


Philbo

I'm not sure you took into account the smaller gallons they use in the states.  According to Dai they're about 3.5 litres which makes a bit of a difference, still probably talking about $5 a gallon though.

What?  They can't even measure a gallon accurately over there?  Sheesh..

;)

They've gone down gradually over the last month; they're actually below two bucks a gallon...again.

I just heard on the news that they might be going back up some more....I'm scared! :o :-[

They're averaging 53cents a gallon higher than at this time last year and they predict they'll keep climbing :-\\ $1.97 per gallon here and now ::)

regular unleaded is averaging $2 here in Houston.

still hovering just under $2.00

75 cents, the price of a can of pork & beans  ;D

They're now averaging about two and a half dollars a gallon where I live. It's a nightmare. :o

it's been about $2.10/gallon...but they said that it is going to go up to about $2.50/gallon soon...that totally sucks!


Erin

As of today it has gone up to $2.63 a gallon.  Outrageous! 

Now you can't get gas anywhere for less than $2.50 a gallon. IMHO that's completely outrageous!

Now you can't get gas anywhere for less than $2.50 a gallon. IMHO that's completely outrageous!
Come out to Colorado Springs...it's $2.12

Now you can't get gas anywhere for less than $2.50 a gallon. IMHO that's completely outrageous!

I know, Ellipsis. It's never been this high in So-Cal before. ::)

I sure hope it doesn't hit three dolars a gallon any time soon; that would be completely ridiculous. ::) If I ever have to pay that much to fill my tank, I'll start using public transportation.

I heard from somewhere that it supposedly peaked and it is supposed to be coming down in price....humpf....we shall see.


Erin :)

Really?  Here in Chicago, they're predicting it's still going to go up and may get as high as $3.00/gallon for the lowest grade :o



that SUCKS!  right now here in the Pittsburgh, Pa area...it is up to about $2.19/gallon.....I hope that it doesn't go any higher....although...vacationing season is quickly approaching...so what better time for the gas to be sky high, huh?


Erin :)

It's going up up up again...

I paid $2.05 in Iowa over the weekend and $2.04 right across the border in IL.  Here, on the other side of the state, it's $2.29 ::)


It was $2.39 in Belleville IL the other day, but looking out the window down the street i can see it's $2.20 here in MO. I have found Illinois to be a good 10 cents more all the time. During the middle of the week the gas stations round here tend to drop down another 10 cents but the ones in Illinois don't.

It is about $2.09 here is SE MN. I goes from about $2.05 up to $2.25 and just keeps bouncing around. Sad thing is, when the gas goes up so does the cost of everything else. High gas prices really effect us a lot.

I'll put in my two cents as soon as I learn how to drive

GAS PRICES ARE BAD SO I RUN EVERYWHERE.

I've taken to filling my tank when it's at the halfway mark 'coz when I look at the register it reminds me of the old days.  Like 2002 or something!
;D

well, it's up to $2.30/gallon here in western PA.



Erin

Aaaargh!! The "cheap" stuff is now no less than two and a half bucks a gallon! :o :o

Well, when I got gas Saturday afternoon, it was $2.19 a gallon.  On the way to work this morning it was $2.29 a gallon.

What has been bothering me most is this yo-yo effect we have had all summer.  It goes up for a few days, then back down, then up again.

I've just filled her up... it's EUR 1.363 per liter over here.
If I calculated correctly that equals $4.18 per gallon (US) or GBP 8.96 per gallon (UK). Quite expensive, I'd say. But remember: our gas price consists of about 65% taxes!! :o

in Pa it is up to almost 2.40/gallon.





Erin :)

$2.77 as of last night and still going up.  >:(  >:(  >:(

I've invested in getting my bike fixed. This city is small enough, and the bus system is great, who needs a car?

I've invested in getting my bike fixed. This city is small enough, and the bus system is great, who needs a car?

People who live where it's too far to ride a bike, there's no bus service, and you've got three kids and a dog to cart around!
:o

People who live where it's too far to ride a bike, there's no bus service, and you've got three kids and a dog to cart around!
:o
OK, I'll change my post:

I've invested in getting my bike fixed. This city is small enough, and the bus system is great, in this city, why would I need a car?

:o

  In the 70's we had a peanut farmer for president, the price of peanut products goes up. In the 80's we had a former actor for president, the price of going to the movies rises. Now we have an oil baron for president, the price of oil products goes up. Weird coincidence? Hmmmmmmm

OK. I filled my car last night. It cost me $56 at $1.11 a litre. That's about $US3.41 a gallon. Last week it cost even more.

WELLLLL as I was driving to the store last week monday ( i live in Texas), i passed a gas station whose price for the lowest grade was $2.32...the VERY next day while driving to a friends house, i passed the same gas station and the price had gone up to $2.40....i hope this isnt some new trend! my parents dont buy gas for my car!

Aaaargh!! The "cheap" stuff is now no less than two and a half bucks a gallon! :o :o

That's just how it is here, too. Some stations here in California are pretty darn close to three bucks a gallon. Full serve (at stations that still do it) is well more than that...nobody's gonna want to pay that much. ::)

The cheapest diesel here is about 91 pence a litre (about $1.65) and the most expensive is about 95 pence.  I've no idea about petrol prices at the moment.  We were in Scotland last week in hubbys diesel car and he was commenting on the prices

That's just how it is here, too. Some stations here in California are pretty darn close to three bucks a gallon. Full serve (at stations that still do it) is well more than that...nobody's gonna want to pay that much. ::)


Ummm...yes, they do (and even far more than that too)... see reply #186. :-[

Hadley, Mass.
$2.52 for 87 grade.

$28.00 with a couple of gallons to spare.
::)

At the start of the week it was $2.19 here in Mizzou. 2 Days ago they hiked it to $2.29.. it is now $2.55. It's the slow climb towards the Labor Day weekend.. It'll drop again

$2.65 for cheap at the Valero across the street. :P

Ummm...yes, they do (and even far more than that too)... see reply #186. :-[

I was saying, nobody really wants to pay three bucks a gallon, or be charged so much more (per gallon) for full serve. ::) But the way things are going, we might see outrageous prices in the next few days. :-[ :-\\

No pun inteneded, but they've got us over a barrel!
We've spent the last sixty years becoming an automobile-dependent society.  What are you going to say about sprawling developments with no mass transit, no stores, and sidewalks?  First you're going to say, it's what the suburban utopians thougth they wanted! 
:D
Then you're going to say, "I guess you have to drive!"

What are you going to do?  Ride a bicycle ten miles each way--
to pick up the kids from soccer practice, do the family grocery shopping, get the dog at the vet, and drop off the computer for repairs? Ha!

Time was little Billy could walk home from school, walk the dog to the vet, and pick up some bread and pork chops on the way back.  He still can if he lives in Manhattan, or in 1935!

Chances are your little Billy doesn't, so you're going to pay three, four, five bucks a gallon while  the government gives giant subsidies to the oil industry when it's raking in record profits!  And you're going to like it.  You know why?  Because that is freedom.  The automobile equals freedom, and if you don't like it, you're un-American!
:P

I'm not sure what it would be in american dollars but here in NB canada its $1.12 per litre.

well they went and raised it another 8 cents in one day....it's up to $2.45 a gallon, although at some places I have seen it at $2.50 a gallon...and that's for the cheap stuff! >:(




Erin

Hey, Missouri gas prices just droped. Well, prices in the city did, the county is still the same.

They dropped 6 cents to $2.49

I gassed up at $2.23 per gallon yesterday.

My gas costs me 28..00-29.00 each time I fill it up.  I usually get unleaded plus. I don;t like the prices.

That's just how it is here, too. Some stations here in California are pretty darn close to three bucks a gallon. Full serve (at stations that still do it) is well more than that...nobody's gonna want to pay that much. ::)


You are right, here in San Diego I saw gas prices at a local gas station reach $2.89/gallon. This has me all confused as to whether I should even consider buying a car or suffer through public transportation another year  :-\\.

You are right, here in San Diego I saw gas prices at a local gas station reach $2.89/gallon. This has me all confused as to whether I should even consider buying a car or suffer through public transportation another year  :-\\.


Hey, if your gonna get one you might as well get one now, before too long we'll have to pay almost half what the rest of the western world does at the gas station  ;D ;D

I'm sorry to tell you all this, but we have it lucky. At the moment we pay around one quater of what a gallon of Unleaded regular gasoline costs in England. We pay about Half of what it costs in some other European nations.

It will be many years before we even Begin! to rival what they pay.

A fact i often address is that over in England, Gas costs around 4 times as much. Taxes are much higher. Commodities cost more. Yet people still run vehicles with no problems. Blame that dumbass Bush for how much gas has gone up. Gas was always going to go up, and with the emerging Chinese and Indian economies it would have to. However, Dubyah has caused it to happen faster than it should do.

My gas costs me 28..00-29.00 each time I fill it up.  I usually get unleaded plus. I don;t like the prices.
How much is it per gallon?

  In the 70's we had a peanut farmer for president, the price of peanut products goes up. In the 80's we had a former actor for president, the price of going to the movies rises. Now we have an oil baron for president, the price of oil products goes up. Weird coincidence? Hmmmmmmm


Now if we could only start working for oil instead of working for peanuts  ;D

Hey, if your gonna get one you might as well get one now, before too long we'll have to pay almost half what the rest of the western world does at the gas station  ;D ;D

I'm sorry to tell you all this, but we have it lucky. At the moment we pay around one quater of what a gallon of Unleaded regular gasoline costs in England. We pay about Half of what it costs in some other European nations.

It will be many years before we even Begin! to rival what they pay.

A fact i often address is that over in England, Gas costs around 4 times as much. Taxes are much higher. Commodities cost more. Yet people still run vehicles with no problems. Blame that dum**** Bush for how much gas has gone up. Gas was always going to go up, and with the emerging Chinese and Indian economies it would have to. However, Dubyah has caused it to happen faster than it should do.



Yeah... and we shouldn't even consider what the other countries pay since the quantities we buy should, in an open market, dictate a reduction in the price we pay.

How much is it per gallon?
Oh I just picked out my reciept from my wallet. Its 2.33 a gallon. The total was $27.10 not 28.00-29.00. Sorry!

Oh I just picked out my reciept from my wallet. Its 2.33 a gallon. The total was $27.10 not 28.00-29.00. Sorry!
No, I'm sorry....thanks for clarifying though ;) :)

Just hit $2.49 for the cheap stuff here. Does anyone else here think gas will hit 4 bucks a gallon within the next 2 years?  ???

Just hit $2.49 for the cheap stuff here. Does anyone else here think gas will hit 4 bucks a gallon within the next 2 years?  ???


If it does I guess that will mean that I'll be using my bike more often!!

I had to mothball the 75 Plymouth Scamp(slant six) for a Ford Escort.  Still have the Plymouth but that will be a week-end just for fun special.  :-\\

On my way to work this morning at 7:00 it was 2.44 and on the way home at the same station at 3:00 it was 2.69  :o  >:( 

On my way to work this morning at 7:00 it was 2.44 and on the way home at the same station at 3:00 it was 2.69  :o   >:( 

You serious? It climbed 25 cents in just eight hours?!? :o

You serious? It climbed 25 cents in just eight hours?!? :o

Yep! I couldn't believe it either. I wish I would've stopped on my way to work.  And the thing that ticks me off the most is, they know you have to have it, so they'll just keep raising it. 

well it is now up to between $2.55 and $2.60 per gallon now.  These jerk offs keep raising it big time...every single day.





Erin :)

You know, I'm for free enterprise as much as the next person. And I know petroleum hasn't kept up with the rising cost of everything else. But at what price does national security and emergency services start to become affected? These services have to buy petroleum products(from taxpayer's money) like everybody else. Many emergency services have a yearly budget. What happens when they can't afford fuel for ambulances, fire engines, police cars, etc.?When is the national oil reserve to be used?

  The "experts" say part of the problem is with refinery capabilities. They are too old and run down and can't keep up with demand. Many have had accidents from overworking obsolete equipment.
 
  OK, so why haven't these companies been upgrading? Why do the oil companies receive tax credits? I firmly believe that any industry that effects security and emergency services should be under some sort of regulation. Instead of tax credits, they should be receiving fines and shouldn't be allowed to pass the expense down to Joe(or Jane  ;) ) consumer.

  Who's with me on this?

Now if we could only start working for oil instead of working for peanuts   ;D

If only we could run our cars on peanut oil!

If only we could run our cars on peanut oil!

  Actually, a diesel engine will run on peanut oil, as well soybean oil.

You know, I'm for free enterprise as much as the next person. And I know petroleum hasn't kept up with the rising cost of everything else. But at what price does national security and emergency services start to become affected? These services have to buy petroleum products(from taxpayer's money) like everybody else. Many emergency services have a yearly budget. What happens when they can't afford fuel for ambulances, fire engines, police cars, etc.?When is the national oil reserve to be used?

  The "experts" say part of the problem is with refinery capabilities. They are too old and run down and can't keep up with demand. Many have had accidents from overworking obsolete equipment.
 
  OK, so why haven't these companies been upgrading? Why do the oil companies receive tax credits? I firmly believe that any industry that effects security and emergency services should be under some sort of regulation. Instead of tax credits, they should be receiving fines and shouldn't be allowed to pass the expense down to Joe(or Jane  ;) ) consumer.

  Who's with me on this?



I'm with you but it won't happen until at least the next presidential term.

I was out and about today...driving past several gas stations, most of which had three-dollars-a-gallon or higher prices. You might think I'm crazy for saying this, but I'd rather see 'em back at two bucks a gallon again!

I'm with you but it won't happen until at least the next presidential term.


I am always puzzled by statements like that.

What in the heck does the President have to do with the price of oil?  Last time I checked, the price is set by OPEC.  Then speculators in the various commodities markets drive it up or down, depending on supply and demand.

The only possible way to break that kind of cycle is to open up our own reserves, and become self-sufficient.  Only in that case will we be able to set our own prices, and not have to worry about the price OPEC charges for oil.

If only we could run our cars on peanut oil!
Actually, Max, you'll be heartened to know that since the latest surge in crude oil prices, there has been quite a buzz in the trucking industry about "biodiesel." Last year, Willie Nelson started up his own company which manufactures and sells biodiesel, which is cleaner burning than petroleum based diesel and can be made from vegetable oil, used restaurant grease, and animal fats. Not only can this benefit the environment, but it could also be a boon to our nation's farmers, who could grow soybeans and other crops strictly for processing into biodiesel. There have been a few truckstops that have been starting to sell a blend of 80% petroleum/20% biodiesel, and although I haven't compared prices I have heard that it is substantially cheaper than conventional 100% petroleum based diesel.
   As a matter of fact, I did not know this until just the other day, but Dr. Rudolf Diesel, the German engineer whose compression-ignition engine bears his name, originally designed his engine to run off of vegetable oils.


For more information check out http://www.wnbiodiesel.com/

Actually, Max, you'll be heartened to know that since the latest surge in crude oil prices, there has been quite a buzz in the trucking industry about "biodiesel." Last year, Willie Nelson started up his own company which manufactures and sells biodiesel, which is cleaner burning than petroleum based diesel and can be made from vegetable oil, used restaurant grease, and animal fats. Not only can this benefit the environment, but it could also be a boon to our nation's farmers, who could grow soybeans and other crops strictly for processing into biodiesel. There have been a few truckstops that have been starting to sell a blend of 80% petroleum/20% biodiesel, and although I haven't compared prices I have heard that it is substantially cheaper than conventional 100% petroleum based diesel.
   As a matter of fact, I did not know this until just the other day, but Dr. Rudolf Diesel, the German engineer whose compression-ignition engine bears his name, originally designed his engine to run off of vegetable oils.


For more information check out http://www.wnbiodiesel.com/

There are a few cars going around here that boast of running on vegetable oil.  I'm afraid if we ever do mass-produce vehicles that can run on peanut oil, Jimmy Carter's family will become the new oil barons!
::)

I am always puzzled by statements like that.

What in the heck does the President have to do with the price of oil? 
In re the current one, you don't want to know.  I mean you, specifically.

There are a few cars going around here that boast of running on vegetable oil.  I'm afraid if we ever do mass-produce vehicles that can run on peanut oil, Jimmy Carter's family will become the new oil barons!
::)
Max, do they sell gasoline with 10% ethanol where you live? They've had this in the Midwest for about 20 years now.  (They used to call it "gasohol," but they did away with that term once junior high kids figured out how to translate it into Pig Latin.) It usually costs about a dime less per gallon than regular unleaded and has a higher octane (usually 89, versus 87 for regular unleaded). They make the ethanol mainly from corn.

Max, do they sell gasoline with 10% ethanol where you live? They've had this in the Midwest for about 20 years now.  (They used to call it "gasohol," but they did away with that term once junior high kids figured out how to translate it into Pig Latin.) It usually costs about a dime less per gallon than regular unleaded and has a higher octane (usually 89, versus 87 for regular unleaded). They make the ethanol mainly from corn.

Nah, they don't do asoholgay up this way, not that I've noticed anyway.

I remember "gasohol" as a buzzword in my 1970s childhood, about the same time as "Laetrile," the bogus cancer remedy. 

Horse Pines Al?

Horse Pines Al?
No, not "pines."  ;D

(Hi, neighbor, have a "Gansett!")

There's this one Union Oil station in Camarillo, CA (seven or eight miles east of where I live) whose mission is to rip everyone off. Every time we pass by it, the full serve prices are WAY out of proportion. My mom said she drove past it the other day, and the FULL SERVE prices are...

no joke...

FOUR dollars a gallon. More than a dollar higher than the SELF serve prices.

FOUR dollars a gallon. More than a dollar higher than the SELF serve prices.
Is that with or without Vaseline?  ???

http://www.masslive.com/newsflash/national/index.ssf?/base/national-50/1125034464287660.xml&storylist=national&thispage=1

Gas station workers face angry customers

OK, guys, now we all hate high gas prices, but just remember, the kid in the booth doesn't make 'em up!
:P

San Diego's prices are bordering three bucks a gallon, insane.

San Diego's prices are bordering three bucks a gallon, insane.

Is it cheaper to fill up acros the border?  Well, maybe that wouldn't be so good.  I wouldn't fill my tank with Pemex unless I had no choice!

San Diego's prices are bordering three bucks a gallon, insane.

I'm not goin' down there anytime soon! :o

http://www.masslive.com/newsflash/national/index.ssf?/base/national-50/1125034464287660.xml&storylist=national&thispage=1

Gas station workers face angry customers

OK, guys, now we all hate high gas prices, but just remember, the kid in the booth doesn't make 'em up!
:P
Speaking of that I live in Jersey and in Jersey we have gas station attendants. I was watching the price as the tank of fuel was going into my car. At the end when filling my car up I saw the price 33.00 to fill up my tank. The gas station attendant says oh its pretty full. I said yeah at that price it should be full.

It's costing me almost $70.00 to fill up.  Good thing I don't drive around too much.

I'm in Pensacola, FL, we're paying between $2.59 and 2.89. 

Speaking of that I live in Jersey and in Jersey we have gas station attendants. I was watching the price as the tank of fuel was going into my car. At the end when filling my car up I saw the price 33.00 to fill up my tank. The gas station attendant says oh its pretty full. I said yeah at that price it should be full.

Oh yeah, NJ has that dumb law against self-serve gas.  I was never clear on why they don't allow it.  When I was a kid, "self-service" gas pumps were pretty new.  I still remember, in the mid '70s, my parents or whoever stopping for gas and saying, "fill it up with regular."  The attendant would clean windshield and check the oil too!  Unleaded was relatively new on the scene then.  There are still toxic particles in the atmosphere from all that "regular" (leaded) gasoline sold up until the early '80s.
Anyway, I avoid full-serve, I prefer self.

I was at the local BP station the other night.  I noticed they started requiring you to pay first.  You used to be able to fill up and then pay at the register.  I asked the clerk if there was a problem with drive-offs (customers leaving without paying).  She said the policy change came right from headquarters to every station.  I'll bet it had something to do with high prices and drive-offs.  I never stole any gasoline.  I'd get caught for sure!

I was at the local BP station the other night.  I noticed they started requiring you to pay first.  You used to be able to fill up and then pay at the register.  I asked the clerk if there was a problem with drive-offs (customers leaving without paying).  She said the policy change came right from headquarters to every station.  I'll bet it had something to do with high prices and drive-offs.  I never stole any gasoline.  I'd get caught for sure!


It's been pay before you pump for the longest time in CA.  I always assumed it was because of people driving off without paying, but then California is a crime ridden state.

It's been pay before you pump for the longest time in CA.  I always assumed it was because of people driving off without paying, but then California is a crime ridden state.

I should know...I've lived in it for a quarter of a century. Pay at the pump; yes, it's been like that at most gas stations I've been to during the past several years.

It's been pay before you pump for the longest time in CA.  I always assumed it was because of people driving off without paying, but then California is a crime ridden state.

I'm old fashioned.  I like to pay for things in cash whenever I can.  Sometimes I used my debit card at the pump, but I prefer to just pay the cashier.  Pumping before paying saved me an extra trip to the cashier, but it's no big deal.

I'm old fashioned.  I like to pay for things in cash whenever I can.  Sometimes I used my debit card at the pump, but I prefer to just pay the cashier.  Pumping before paying saved me an extra trip to the cashier, but it's no big deal.


I'm from CA, but in 95 I moved to NC.  I had gone to get gas one day and before I pumped I went into the station to pay up front.  The cashier looked at me like I was nuts.  :P

I like to pay at the pump with debit, I'm too lazy to go indoors. ::)

I'm from CA, but in 95 I moved to NC.  I had gone to get gas one day and before I pumped I went into the station to pay up front.  The cashier looked at me like I was nuts.  :P

I like to pay at the pump with debit, I'm too lazy to go indoors. ::)

Yeah, paying at the pump is convenient; you don't have to go too far away from your car.

Yeah, paying at the pump is convenient; you don't have to go too far away from your car.


Especially if you have two car seats to unbuckle and buckle again. ::)

Especially if you have two car seats to unbuckle and buckle again. ::)

Is that how it is for you?

Is that how it is for you?


Yes and the reason I don't pay inside.

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GAS, @SS, OR GRASS.
NOBODY RIDES FREE!
;D

I posted this on Chucky G's song parody website a few days ago at:

http://www.amiright.com/parody/60s/thebyrds23.shtml



"Mr. Tambourine Man" Based on the performance by The Byrds

"Pay THIS Fer Gasoline, Man?" Parody by Johnny D

( --- instrumental intro --- )

Pay THIS fer gasoline, man? --- guess again, you dweeb!
I'm not greedy, man, but ain't no way I'm going to ---

--- pay THIS fer gasoline, man! Hey, I'll pump for free!
In the steal-a-tank-full morning, I'll come bor-row-ing fuel

Make me pour a dripper from
Your cash-ingesting pump
Though I'm not a changeless chump
I still ain't no Donald Trump
This price is the highest yet
And I must admit,
I'm tempted to drive-off again

I'm ready to drive-off and stiff
Exxon for my self-serve
'Round that gas-pump I'll swerve
Disappear around that curve
My S.U.V. will go for it!

Pay THIS fer gasoline, man? --- not a chance, you dweeb!
My car's needy, and, will gain octane I've stolen, too!

Pay THIS fer gasoline, man? Hey, I'll pump for free!
In the steal-a-tank-full morning, my car's swal-low-ing fuel

Crunchy hippies love to drive
Their pinko hybrid cars
Wish they'd send them all to Mars
Let 'em stop by truckers' bars,
And meet Rocco, Vince, and Lars,
And us macho-men,
Will teach 'em all a thing or two!

I drive my muscle-wagon as
A method to disguise
And hide from other guys
My salami's tiny size
I'm just a gas-hole hooligan!

Hey, Mister Gasoline-Man! Hey, I pumped for free!
I was sleazy, and, I gained octane I stole from you!

Dis-as-ter blasted me, man! Diesel pump fooled me!
Got a stinkin' tank of fuel-oil --- I'm a car-filling fool !

( --- instrumental fade --- )

Got this in an email today! ;D 8)