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Subject: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 01/05/05 at 9:02 pm

Is anyone else looking forward to this film as much as me? I am already getting bat-fever  ;D

Here's the skinny for those not aware of the film yet.

Its a complete re-start of the Batman franchise, a new take on the Batman ethos. It is no a sequel or a prequel, or in any way associated with the previous films(and considering Batman & Robin that is a good thing!).

Here is the info from DarkHorizons.Com:

"Plot: A reinvention of the "Batman" film franchise under the helm of "Memento" Director Chris Nolan and more in tone with the early comics than Tim Burton's gothic 1989 original or its follow-ups. As a boy, a young Bruce Wayne watched in horror as his millionaire parents were slain in front of his eyes. It was a trauma which led him to become obsessed with revenge, but his chance is taken away from him by a cruel twist of fate. Disappearing into the remotest mountain regions of China, Bruce goes in search of counsel and soon finds himself training with a deadly but honorable ninja cult lead by the mysterious Ra's Al-Ghul.

Years later, Bruce returns home to a now decaying Gotham City overrun by organised crime and dangerous individuals manipulating the system for their own personal gains. At the same time the company he inherited is slowly being pulled out from under him by men he was taught to trust. The discovery of a cave under his family's mansion and a prototype armoured suit which WayneTech head Lucius Fox lets him use, leads him to take on a new persona - one which will strike fear into the hearts of men who do wrong - Batman.

In this new guise and with the help of rising cop James Gordon, loyal butler Alfred Pennyworth and assistant district attorney Rachel Dawes, Batman sets out to avenge his parents death and stop the corruption on the streets. HIs efforts soon uncover links between mafia don Carmine Falcone, the twisted drug smuggler Jonathan 'The Scarecrow' Crane, and a mysterious third party that is quite familiar with Bruce and is waiting to strike against him and the city when the time is right.

Cast: Christian Bale - Batman/Bruce Wayne, Sir Michael Caine - Alfred Pennyworth, Liam Neeson - Henri Ducard, Morgan Freeman - Lucius Fox, Gary Oldman - Lt.Jim Gordon, Katie Holmes - Asst.DA Rachel Dawes, Tom Wilkinson - Carmine Falcone, Cillian Murphy - Dr.Jonathan Crane/The Scarecrow, Rutger Hauer- Richard Earle, Ken Watanabe - Ra's Al Ghul, Linus Roache - Thomas Wayne, Sara Stewart - Martha Wayne, Colin McFarlane - Comm. Gillian Loeb, Richard Brake - Joe Chill, Barry Dowden - Det.Flass

And here are some pics:

http://darkhorizons.com/2005/batman/bat9.jpg

http://darkhorizons.com/2005/batman/bat3.jpg - Batman making an entrance  8)

http://darkhorizons.com/2005/batman/bat6.jpg - Batman interrogating Dr.Jonathan Crane

http://darkhorizons.com/2005/batman/bat5.jpg - Bruce Wayne

http://darkhorizons.com/2005/batman/bat1.jpg - Bruce Wayne again

http://darkhorizons.com/2005/batman/bat10.jpg - Lt.Jim Gordon

http://darkhorizons.com/2005/batman/bat7.jpg - Alfred Pennyworth

Note: I linked the rest of the pics to avoid troubling those of you with dial-up.  ;)




Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 01/05/05 at 9:12 pm

Also you can check out the trailer over at batmanbegins.com

Its so awesome  8)

Yes, I'm a fanboy..lol

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 01/05/05 at 10:20 pm

Topic failure.  :\'(

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: sputnikcorp on 01/06/05 at 9:23 am

i'm a batman fan. i can't wait to see this. it could only wash away the bad taste left over from batman and robin.

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 01/06/05 at 2:40 pm

I have a feeling this will be the BEST Batman movie ever.  I'm just picking up that vibe from what I have read and seen about the film.  It has a great cast, great screenwriter and director.  They know what they are doing and what works and doesn't work.  It should blow away the 1989 movie.  I remember back in 1989, I was in middle school and Batman mania was everywhere...it was crazy.  '89 was a great summer for movies. 

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 01/07/05 at 4:49 pm

Bump.

AWESOME new pic of Batman.  :o 8)

http://photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/bofimagesbofimages/bale_batman_arms1_sm.jpg

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: SuspiciousMinds on 01/08/05 at 3:46 pm

It looks good to me..I'm looking forward to this movie.

BTW,not sure what all the put downs of "Batman and Robin" are for...I thought it was the best of the lot.

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: MysteryGoat on 01/08/05 at 5:37 pm

I'm just glad it's not a continuation of the Burton/Schumacher films. I actually only want to see those done by Tim burton. This movie looked pretty dark compared to the last two, so hopefully Warner woke up and realized Burton had the right idea in making Batman the anti-hero.

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 01/08/05 at 7:06 pm

Well, I really dug Batman, but I had my problems with Returns. I felt that Burton went too overboard with the goth stuff in Batman Returns, it felt more like a Burton film, and less like a Batman film. The FIRST Schumacher film was ok(except for how they butchered Two-Face's character >:( ), but Batman & Robin was a horrid, putrid film. Cheesy lines, goofy costuming and set designs, poorly written, George Clooney was totally miscast..need I continue?

I'm so excited about this Nolan/Goyer film, it looks like the fans will FINALLY get a film that is faithful to the Batman we know and love from the graphic novels. I mean I like the Burton films, for what they are, but they aren't an accurate representation of the Dark Knight from the comics. Nolan says he is basing his film most off the Batman of the 70's, the Engelhart era, and he said The Dark Knight Returns and The Long Halloween were also very influential. I'm pumped.

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 01/09/05 at 5:49 pm

www.batman-on-film.com

That is the premier site for Batman movie news. They should update with a new set report soon.

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: McDonald on 01/09/05 at 7:24 pm

I'm hoping for your sakes that it will be a good film, although considering the rubbish that has come out of Hollywood on a regular basis (especially as it has to do with comic book characters), I can't say that I'm expecting much. I like Christian Bale. He was absolutely fantastic as Patrick Bateman in American Psycho, the film adaptation of the Bret Easton Ellis novel of the same title.

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 01/11/05 at 5:15 pm

Some of you may or may not know, that director Darren Aronofsky was the man originally attached to make a new Batman film before Christopher Nolan was brought in. After finding out what he had planned, I am so happy WB did the right thing and told him to take a flying leap.

The movie Aronofsky wanted to make was called Batman: Year One and the script was written by Joel Schumacher(gee, what a suprise ), and in it, Bruce Wayne lost his ineritance after his parents got killed. He is in his late 20s and working as a mechanic(thats right, a fudgeing MECHANIC) at an autobody shop, for a guy named "Al"(Alfred).

He lives in an apartment above the garage, and hes a very angry young man. Al worries about him, and advises him to do something with his life. So Bruce is inspired by a report on TV where Commisioner Gordon declares a war on crime, so he dones first a hockey mask and a cape, and than just a black mask and a cape(not the traditional costume). Al gives him his father's "TW" initial ring, and the imprint left on criminal's by it(which is upside down) leads to him being called "The bat man"(hes never called Batman).

And get this..the Batmobile, is just a fudgeing Lincoln Continental. And Selina Kyle is in it, but she is a black prostitute.

I read the report on it over at Batman-On-Film. What a pile of a crud.

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 01/11/05 at 5:17 pm

Arronofsky's project went TO far into the realm of gritty urban realism and film noir, losing completely the essence of the source material. On the other hand Nolans' Batman Begins is shaping up to be a perfect representation of the Batman I know and love from graphic novels like The Long Halloween and Dark Victory on film.

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: Vayle on 01/24/05 at 4:49 pm


This site features a ton of information on potential comic book movies.

http://www.efavata.com/CBM/

Grendel (thus far the Christine Spar series story is being scripted or so they say) has been optioned, but is not in production.  If they manage to get this one to screen, I hope its done well.


Vayle

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 01/29/05 at 12:17 pm

Here are some more pics.

http://batmanytb.com/movies/batmanbegins/bb33.jpg

http://batmanytb.com/movies/batmanbegins/bb37.jpg

http://batmanytb.com/movies/batmanbegins/bb39.jpg

http://batmanytb.com/movies/batmanbegins/bb48.jpg

http://batmanytb.com/movies/batmanbegins/bb49.jpg

http://batmanytb.com/movies/batmanbegins/bb50.jpg

http://batmanytb.com/movies/batmanbegins/bb51.jpg

http://batmanytb.com/movies/batmanbegins/bb52.jpg

http://batmanytb.com/movies/batmanbegins/bb53.jpg

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: sputnikcorp on 01/29/05 at 1:09 pm

i like his costume. i guess you can't find a better pic of the batmobile?

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: pimpinsteelersfan on 01/29/05 at 4:10 pm

The movie looks awsome.  Here is a batmobile photos I found I think it looks really cool:
http://media.outnow.ch/Movies/Images/2005/BatmanBegins/movie.1/02.jpg

and what is wrong with Batman and Robin I found it to be a good movie.

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 03/05/05 at 11:58 pm

Here is a new set of pictures, hope you all enjoy..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/bobbymcgee/Batmanlostinaseaofpsychos.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/bobbymcgee/TheEyesChico.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/bobbymcgee/BATMANSHINES.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/bobbymcgee/batman-pic981a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/bobbymcgee/Chi-townsFinest.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/bobbymcgee/bb_tvspot.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/bobbymcgee/bb1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/bobbymcgee/THEBAT-MAN.jpg

And "The Scarecrow"(Dr.Jonathan Crane)..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/bobbymcgee/THESCARECROW.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/bobbymcgee/SCARRRRRECROOWW.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/bobbymcgee/fudgeINGSCARECROWYES.jpg

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 03/05/05 at 11:59 pm

Btw, just view the properties, and copy the source into your address bar to see them in full-size(the boards automatically re-size them to be a certain size and under)..

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 03/06/05 at 11:17 pm

Hmm, the film seems to be drawing little interest here.

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: Tam on 03/06/05 at 11:25 pm

I am a BatMan Fanatic! Even tho & Robin etc sucked I still have them all!
The only thing I am having difficulty with is picturing Christian Bale/American Psycho as Bruce Wayne!  ;D

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: sputnikcorp on 03/06/05 at 11:28 pm

scarecrow looks cool. by far the scariest looking villian in the franchise.

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 03/06/05 at 11:30 pm

The guy over at SHH(superhero hype) who has been leaking all of the recent photos says that he will post 44 more soon(I think tommorrow). So this thread may get a torrent more pics..so stay posted, Batfans.  ;)

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: CatwomanofV on 03/07/05 at 9:34 am

Holy Cinema, Batman. But what good is Batman without Catwoman?  ;)





Cat

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: Davester on 03/07/05 at 10:55 am

   The costume appears to be exactly the same as Batman - '89...

   Anyhoo, this re-telling of the Batman story looks intriguing...it should, what with Chris Nolan at the helm.  Anyone ever see Memento or Following...?

   I'm just flabbergasted that any studio would fund yet another Batman picture when there are more out there than you can shake a stick at...

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 03/07/05 at 8:12 pm


  The costume appears to be exactly the same as Batman - '89...

  Anyhoo, this re-telling of the Batman story looks intriguing...it should, what with Chris Nolan at the helm.  Anyone ever see Memento or Following...?

  I'm just flabbergasted that any studio would fund yet another Batman picture when there are more out there than you can shake a stick at...


Because the story of Batman has never been properly translated on film. Batman - '89 came the closest, but it was still off the mark. The previous franchise messed up so many parts of the Batman mythos, hopefully these things will be corrected with the new franchise. And this suit is quite a bit different than the 89 suit. The belt is completely different in design, the color is similar(although its a more toned down copperish color than yellow), the yellow oval logo has been replaced with a toned down plain 'Bat logo', this suit is MOBILE in the way it has been tailored(the actor will be able to actually turn his head and move about freely whereas in the previous suits they were very restricted, having to turn their whole body to turn their head).

Also the cowl(mask) is a lot different from B89's. Keaton's was too loose on his face, while the one Bale will be wearing has been form fitted for his face and looks MUCH MUCH better(more animalistic, the eyeholes are smaller enhancing the 'creature' look), and the ears are shorter and have a tilt to the front, giving them an almost 'hornish' look(the cowl is clearly inspired by the artwork of Tim Sale).

Another thing, rather than the gloves being one piece with flimsy fins, they have seperate metal guantlets. Also the hideous nipples from the Batman Forever and Batman and Robin costumes are gone, and the muscle detail is toned down. Also, the cape has changed from being about knee length to being long and flowing like in the comics, and it is made out of a silky cloth material rather than the heavy leather used in the previous films.

So the costume has had HUGE improvements.

Batman is a cultural icon, and the success of films like X-men and Spiderman made Warner Brothers realize what a cash cow they were sitting on. Besides, they have been trying to revive the franchise ever since the disasterous Batman & Robin. Batman '89 wasn't bad, but it was far from ideal. Batman Returns was entertaining, but it was Tim Burton doing his own thing, and barely a Batman film in my opinion. Batman Forever was a bit too campy, and it messed up the characters of both Two-Face and the Riddler(Two-Face was a "Joker" rip off, which is untrue and insulting to his character in the graphic novels, and The Riddler was..well it was just Jim Carrey).

I'm not going to even get into the disaster of Batman & Robin.

But Cat, you are quite right. Catwoman/Selina Kyle is very important to the Batman mythos, and I really hope she makes it in to the new franchise along with many other fans. Michelle Pffiefer played her well, and captured some of the basic essence of the character, but I don't like how they changed her backstory from socialite/cat burglar to secretary/vigilante(again, Returns was Burton doing his own thing..Penguin is not a mutant from the sewer!). She is a wonderful character, and along with Harvey Dent/Two Face is the only "villain" that Batman truely feels for, and probably the only woman he loves. She has even been on the 'good' side from time to time over the years in the comics.

Batman is known as "The World's Greatest Dectective", and the more cerebral aspect of the character's abilities didn't get enough attention previously imo. Also, Bruce Wayne was a rather flat character in the previous films. I am glad that in this new franchise more focus is put on Wayne and who he is. I liked Keaton's performance, but his characterization of Wayne was wrong. Bruce Wayne isn't a sensitive, quirky type guy. He is a million playboy(if you have seen American Psycho you know Bale can play this to a tee), and he also has deep emotional issues and motivations that drive him. These were barely touched on in the other movies. The first half of this film will be dedicated to showing us his journey from his parent's murder to becoming the Batman.

Another mistake made by the previous movies being corrected is the Batman/Comm.Gordon relationship, which was almost non-existant in the other movies. It is a VERY important part of the comics. They are allies, and friends. They have a very interesting relationship. Batman is the only person Gordon can really trust to help him fight the forces of corruption(albeit its a cautious trust), and Batman sees Gordon as "the only honest cop in Gotham". ANOTHER aspect of the comics ignored previously was Batman not just fighting "freak villains"(like the Joker and Catwoman), but Batman also fighting against police corruption.

Also, this movie will bring in the very important character of Carmine Falcone, the most prominent mob boss in Gotham city. The mob is another integral part of the comics, that were, except for B89 ignored in the old movies(and their role in that movie was pretty minimal still).  Infact one of the best Batman stories ever told, was "The Long Halloween", which was about a war between the mob and the "freaks"(supervillain type criminals, like the Scarecrow, poison ivy etc.).

There is SO much of the Batman legend yet to be told on screen accurately its not even funny. So there is no need to be flabbergasted. They have a virtual labrynth of material to work with.

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 03/07/05 at 8:15 pm

Latest pics..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/bobbymcgee/batman02.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/bobbymcgee/batman01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/bobbymcgee/batman01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/bobbymcgee/batman02.jpg

^Links to full size pics.

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: Davester on 03/07/05 at 11:30 pm

    You've done your homework, Dudeness...

   I like the notion of angry young Wayne traveling to the Far East to meditate, train, prepare and attain discipline.  Very Kung-Fu-ish.

   I'm stoked.  It's the kid in me.  Here's hoping that this will be a quality picture...

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: NullandVoid on 03/08/05 at 5:01 pm

Sorry guys, I'm still burned over the forever and Batman/Robin incident, I'm gonna wait for the DVD on this one.

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 03/09/05 at 3:33 pm


Sorry guys, I'm still burned over the forever and Batman/Robin incident, I'm gonna wait for the DVD on this one.


You are making a mistake. You have a cast that includes Christian Bale, Gary Oldman, Micheal Cain, Morgran Freeman, Liam Neeson, Ken Watanabe, Tom Wilkinson-every one of those guys I just named except for Bale and Oldman has either won an Oscar or been nominated. And both Bale and Oldman are superb actors.

The movie is being done in line with the graphic novels for the first time..well, ever. The first two, directed by Tim Burton, while they were 'dark', left out a lot of important elements of the Batman mythos. This is NOT Forever and Batman and Robin redux. This is not even a sequel to those films. It is a reboot of the franchise, with a much deeper written main character. The first half of the film follows Wayne's journey from his parents murder to him finally becoming the Batman. I have read the leaked script on line, and it is one of the best scripts I've ever read period, and it is THE best comic book script I've read. Yes, better than Spiderman II even, in my opinion. AND better than the original 1978 Superman. Bruce is well-developed as a character, and really all of the parts are well written and it flows very organic. Its not too slow or not too rushed. And the plot is well done and makes sense. Each step in the plot feels 'right' and well done.

Plus add on the fact that it is being directed by one of the best directors working in Hollywood today, Christopher Nolan. He directed the films Memento(which was considered for an Oscar nomination for best picture), and Insomnia(which has one of Robert DeNiro's best performances, and Robin Williams' BEST).

You'd be crazy to skip this out. Do NOT wait for the DVD, you will only cheat yourself.

Go here and view the trailers online: http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=5020

The first two are the best, because they are story/character oriented. The third one was the Superbowl spot, so its more about action sequences. Although, it is still pretty cool. The first one ESPECIALLY is very well done. Bale is an incredible actor and was BORN to play this role. Keaton turned in a pretty good performance, but he was sorely miscast.

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: NullandVoid on 03/09/05 at 5:34 pm


You are making a mistake. You have a cast that includes Christian Bale, Gary Oldman, Micheal Cain, Morgran Freeman, Liam Neeson, Ken Watanabe, Tom Wilkinson-every one of those guys I just named except for Bale and Oldman has either won............



Wow, I take that back. You actually sold me on this one. I'll give Christian Bale a chance.
I get movie Tix for free anyway :)

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 03/09/05 at 9:51 pm

http://inlandempirestrikesback.net/v-web/gallery/albums/batmanpics/batman06.jpg

http://inlandempirestrikesback.net/v-web/gallery/albums/batmanpics/batman07.jpg

http://inlandempirestrikesback.net/v-web/gallery/albums/batmanpics/batman08.jpg

http://inlandempirestrikesback.net/v-web/gallery/albums/batmanpics/batman04.jpg

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 04/03/05 at 9:53 pm

http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2005/0-9ABC/BatmanBegins/trailer.php

The new T.V. spots are in Quicktime format here. They are so great.

"A man that dresses up as a BAT, clearly has issues" - Bruce Wayne ;D

Here are some stills from the new spots..

Enjoy..

http://photos.imageevent.com/cardodo/misc2/bbc_005.jpg
http://img205.exs.cx/img205/9818/clipboard700pj.jpg
http://img205.exs.cx/img205/3971/clipboard745sw.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/dyd/scared.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/dyd/gas.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/dyd/gas2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/dyd/lucius.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/dyd/logo.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/dyd/otherone.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/dyd/turbine1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v460/dyd/vault.jpg


Phew. Well there ya go.

Its shaping up so nice; I am hyped.

And speaking of hype, I suppose that Warner Brothers has already began the TV advertising campaign, I've been seeing various spots for the film all weekend. Wow, and its still two and a half months until the release. They have deals already made for marketing with Verizon, Onstar, McDonald's, and Coca-Cola too. I wonder if the hype will reach the fever pitch that "BATMAN" did in 1989?

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: FireBrand79 on 04/11/05 at 7:22 pm

Wooo-HOOO! BATMAN.This one looks good and it should make us all forget about last one.

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: MidKnightDarkness on 04/18/05 at 8:03 pm

Batman needs to end.


As do the "land before time" movies...what are we on now?? Land before time 3,826??




~Beth

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 04/18/05 at 8:21 pm


Batman needs to end.


As do the "land before time" movies...what are we on now?? Land before time 3,826??




~Beth


Why does Batman need to end? It is a bankable franchise with a multi-million fan base, that got two crappy sequels(BATMAN FOREVER and BATMAN & ROBIN), and deserves another go. This is a re-start of the previous franchise, with no connections to the other films.

BATMAN is an AMERICAN ICON, along with SUPERMAN(who finally flies back into theaters next year!). Batman is a beloved character of American pulp fiction, has been for 60 years. Acclaimed writers like Jeph Loeb, Frank Miller, and Neal Adams have all been enthralling readers of the graphic novels for years. There is DEFINITELY a fanbase for this, because graphic novels are more popular now in the mainstream than they have ever been.

Warmer Brothers have put a lot of money into bringing back a beloved franchise, and a beloved character, who will never die, this new franchise starting this year will eventually end, and then wait a few years and there will be another. Face it, the character is a cannonized piece of American popular culture. And with the new hit animated show on the WB(although it's not particularly to my tastes), "The Batman", interest in the Capred Crusader has been rising again over the last couple of years anyway.

You have one of the most brilliant directors in the film making business helming this project, Christopher Nolan. If you have not seen Memento or Insomnia, I highly recommend both(these are both Nolan films). Robin Williams gives by far the best performance of his career in Insomnia(DeNiro also gives a stand-out performance), and Memento is simply one of the most well-directed, best-written films to come out this decade.

And you have a cast that includes Christian Bale(who is a solid indie/arthouse type actor who gave notable performances in EMPIRE OF THE SUN and AMERICAN PSYCHO), you have Academy Award winners like Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman, and Academy Award nominees Ken Watanabe, Liam Neeson, and Tom Wilkinson. Rounding out the cast you have solid actors like Rutger Hauer and Gary Oldman.

It sounds like you made the comment without understanding this film, it's direction, the people making it, nor even the character and his history and place in popular culture.

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: MidKnightDarkness on 04/18/05 at 8:28 pm


Why does Batman need to end? It is a bankable franchise with a multi-million fan base, that got two crappy sequels(BATMAN FOREVER and BATMAN & ROBIN), and deserves another go. This is a re-start of the previous franchise, with no connections to the other films.

BATMAN is an AMERICAN ICON, along with SUPERMAN(who finally flies back into theaters next year!). Batman is a beloved character of American pulp fiction, has been for 60 years. Acclaimed writers like Jeph Loeb, Frank Miller, and Neal Adams have all been enthralling readers of the graphic novels for years. There is DEFINITELY a fanbase for this, because graphic novels are more popular now in the mainstream than they have ever been.

Warmer Brothers have put a lot of money into bringing back a beloved franchise, and a beloved character, who will never die, this new franchise starting this year will eventually end, and then wait a few years and there will be another. Face it, the character is a cannonized piece of American popular culture. And with the new hit animated show on the WB(although it's not particularly to my tastes), "The Batman", interest in the Capred Crusader has been rising again over the last couple of years anyway.

You have one of the most brilliant directors in the film making business helming this project, Christopher Nolan. If you have not seen Memento or Insomnia, I highly recommend both(these are both Nolan films). Robin Williams gives by far the best performance of his career in Insomnia(DeNiro also gives a stand-out performance), and Memento is simply one of the most well-directed, best-written films to come out this decade.

And you have a cast that includes Christian Bale(who is a solid indie/arthouse type actor who gave notable performances in EMPIRE OF THE SUN and AMERICAN PSYCHO), you have Academy Award winners like Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman, and Academy Award nominees Ken Watanabe, Liam Neeson, and Tom Wilkinson. Rounding out the cast you have solid actors like Rutger Hauer and Gary Oldman.

It sounds like you made the comment without understanding this film, it's direction, the people making it, nor even the character and his history and place in popular culture.




*yawn*.....*falls asleep*

*suddenly wake up*..."Oh...yeah...what you said....right" ...*goes back to sleep*



~Beth

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 04/18/05 at 8:43 pm

If you didn't want a response..why did you post?

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: MidKnightDarkness on 04/19/05 at 2:49 pm


If you didn't want a response..why did you post?




Eh, something to do.



~Beth

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 04/27/05 at 3:49 pm

http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/player.jhtml

You can view the full 2 minute+ trailer here.

My god..it is so amazing.

Liam Neeson is great.

"A legend, Mr.Wayne" 8)

Subject: Re: Batman Begins

Written By: ElDuderino on 04/28/05 at 3:48 pm

Well I think its incredible, and it deserves a bump now that Katie Homes is in the tabloids.

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