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Subject: Bullies

Written By: Alicia on 03/30/05 at 7:34 pm

how far is too far with being bullied or being a bully? when do people know when to quit or ever quit.  Have you ever been a bully or have been bullied and if you were a bully do you think about it and laugh or do you wish you have never done it...and if you were bullied what effects did it have on you?


The only reason I am starting a topic like this is because I was watching the show House last night.  It was about a little girl who was morbidly obese and had gotten made fun of so much for it and had no friends and then took diet pills that she got somewhere and got really sick to where she almost died....it brought back a lot of memories when I was bullied by almost everyone and it didnt stop until sophmor year.  because I had been physically, sexually, and mentally abused by other student (not just males) I have beecome a very hateful and resentful person not trusting hardly anyone and not even my boyfriend sometimes.  So how far is to far of bullying and what do you think we can do to cut it down some

another reason I am writing a topic like this is because the show brought up also what effects it can have on children and brought up something I have heard from a woman who came to talk to us about suicide prevention,I have heard that a 6 year old had commited suicide one of the youngest numbers ever that suicde prevention had seen...a 6 year old for crying out loud...why a 6-year old?  how can we help our children or ourselves? a teenager age 15 committed suicide because she was teased so bad.  In third grade I was thinking about it and in 5th....so what do you think is too far?

Note: Many questions here answer ones that appeal to you...and do not start telling people on here they deserved it or whatever

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: whitewolf on 03/30/05 at 8:36 pm

My oldest daughter was bullied since the day she started school. still is to some extent -not as much as before though.

Her school has a 0 tolerence about fighting policy, but not on bulling. She didn't want to fight because she would have been the one to get in trouble. I called the school many times, that only made it worse. Finally in jr. high, she started fighting back-I had many calls from the school telling me that my daughter was picking on other kids. I basically told them where to shove it because I was the one who told her to fight back because her going to the teachers and me calling the teachers in the past didn't work.

In grade 8, another student told her to kill herself, that she was too fat and ugly and didn't deserve to live.  When I called the school, the principal told me that the other student had every right to tell her that because my daughter was a trouble-maker.

My question to him was, "What could a 14 year old do or say that would make onyone tell her that she doesn't deserve to live." I taped this conversation, and that man no longer has a job in the school system at any level.

Today my daughter is a somewhat happy 16 year old, she may still get picked on once in awhile, but she no longer puts up with it. She doesn't fight her way out, she usually gets sarcastic with them.  If that doesn't work, she lets them know that she has karate training, and if they lay a hand on her, she would use it in self-defense, she has never had to use it.

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: ADH13 on 03/30/05 at 8:38 pm


Well, I was only taunted in middle school, when I moved to CA from NY.. people always made fun of my accent...  and when I complained about it to school officials, they told me to ignore it and it would stop.  (Yeah, right)

It was a nightmare and I hated going to school at that time, but when I went to high school, we had moved to a different neighborhood and the people at my new school never bothered me at all...

I wouldn't say any of the effects from the time of being taunted still affect me..  I'm not angry about it or anything...

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: Johnny Vega on 03/30/05 at 8:43 pm

I wouldn't know what being bullied is like considering that I was a bully.... Don't hate, I had my own reasons for being a bully. It's sad to hear that your daughter was and still is a target for bullies, are most of her tormentors other girls? I stopped bullying when I realized that I shouldn't judge people simply based on their appearance and even to this day, just because of my natural looks, people assume that I'm a bully...

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: whitewolf on 03/30/05 at 8:45 pm


I wouldn't know what being bullied is like considering that I was a bully.... Don't hate, I had my own reasons for being a bully. It's sad to hear that your daughter was and still is a target for bullies, are most of her tormentors other girls? I stopped bullying when I realized that I shouldn't judge people simply based on their appearance and even to this day, just because of my natural looks, people assume that I'm a bully...


she was bullied by both, the one that told her to kill herself was a guy. Had the cops go talk to him by the way.

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: ElDuderino on 03/30/05 at 8:45 pm

I've been teased throughout most of my school career, although its lessened significantly in High school. It was pretty severe in my elementary years.

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: Johnny Vega on 03/30/05 at 8:58 pm

You can't rely on schools to resolve these issues and there are times when you have to take matters into your own hands... I worked as a school aide and saw firsthand that the administration doesn't want to deal with any complaints, even if they are very serious, and that because they're ill-equipped to handle the situation, they will just try to sweep it under the rug with a comment like "It'll resolve itself..."

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: Alicia on 03/30/05 at 9:34 pm


You can't rely on schools to resolve these issues and there are times when you have to take matters into your own hands... I worked as a school aide and saw firsthand that the administration doesn't want to deal with any complaints, even if they are very serious, and that because they're ill-equipped to handle the situation, they will just try to sweep it under the rug with a comment like "It'll resolve itself..."


yes schools dont help.....all they say is "Just try to ignore it...stay away from them...your a great person"...and yes finally kids do handle it...killing, shooting...whatever...killing themselves...taunting others...becoming heartless and hateful...many people who have kids now dont get offended I'm not saying ALL I'm saying A LOT of parents dont really help or make matters better.  I think people should realize when someone is in the need they really need to listen...I'd rather be getting the S H I T kicked out of me then to have someone tell me something words hurt me so much more, teens and often children learn to resolve pain also by hurting themselves.....cutting, bruising ect.  I think its horrible

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: Alicia on 03/30/05 at 9:40 pm



In grade 8, another student told her to kill herself, that she was too fat and ugly and didn't deserve to live.  When I called the school, the principal told me that the other student had every right to tell her that because my daughter was a trouble-maker.

My question to him was, "What could a 14 year old do or say that would make onyone tell her that she doesn't deserve to live." I taped this conversation, and that man no longer has a job in the school system at any level.



I;m very sorry....I'm not telling you how to raise her but you need to do me a big favor...if you dont already do this...tell her everyday how much you love her teens often hide their sadness with a happy face...I know because I do it all the time....and even tho it sounds corny you should talk with her very often about whats new and whats going on..ask her if she needs help...someone had told me something along the lines like that in 5th grade they told me exactly like this "you a fat ugly stupid idiot and you rdont deserve to live so why dont you make everyone happy and kill yourself" I tried too hard not to cry in front of others, so I waited until I got home...that night I had repeatedly punched myself in the stoach until I couldnt take it anymore and blamed it on myself that she told me that.  Have you ever noticed anything like that on your daughter? I hope not, theres this girl whom today she still gets tortured and one time even a teacher was on a bet with someone to take her out. I always try to talk to her but after being tormented so many years shes kind of hard to talk too.

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: whitewolf on 03/30/05 at 9:50 pm


I;m very sorry....I'm not telling you how to raise her but you need to do me a big favor...if you dont already do this...tell her everyday how much you love her teens often hide their sadness with a happy face...I know because I do it all the time....and even tho it sounds corny you should talk with her very often about whats new and whats going on..ask her if she needs help...someone had told me something along the lines like that in 5th grade they told me exactly like this "you a fat ugly stupid idiot and you rdont deserve to live so why dont you make everyone happy and kill yourself" I tried too hard not to cry in front of others, so I waited until I got home...that night I had repeatedly punched myself in the stoach until I couldnt take it anymore and blamed it on myself that she told me that.  Have you ever noticed anything like that on your daughter? I hope not, theres this girl whom today she still gets tortured and one time even a teacher was on a bet with someone to take her out. I always try to talk to her but after being tormented so many years shes kind of hard to talk too.



I do talk to her every day, about everything. She is so beautiful, but because of her size sometimes she thinks she is ugly. I tell her every day I love her and how beautiful she is. She may be 16 but to me she is still one of my babies.

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: Alicia on 03/30/05 at 9:52 pm



I do talk to her every day, about everything. She is so beautiful, but because of her size sometimes she thinks she is ugly. I tell her every day I love her and how beautiful she is. She may be 16 but to me she is still one of my babies.


awww thats good. Yes women today think they are automatically ugly because they arent some stick that can hid bhind a pole....I honestly think women should be chunky....women should have curves like the pin-ups from back then or those old paintings from the 1800's and before that...that to me is beautiful some some girl that your afraid to shake hands with because she might break

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: ElDuderino on 03/30/05 at 9:58 pm


awww thats good. Yes women today think they are automatically ugly because they arent some stick that can hid bhind a pole....I honestly think women should be chunky....women should have curves like the pin-ups from back then or those old paintings from the 1800's and before that...that to me is beautiful some some girl that your afraid to shake hands with because she might break


Thats what I prefer, actually.

More cushion. :)

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: Alicia on 03/30/05 at 10:53 pm


Thats what I prefer, actually.

More cushion. :)


for the pushion lol sorry thats a cool saying tho

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: Jessica on 03/30/05 at 11:21 pm

Alicia, you are beautiful. :-*

Just thought you needed to know that. :)

Love,
Your sister

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 03/31/05 at 2:21 am

I was bullied mercilessly from kindergarten through my sophomore year in high school, and it never did me any harm...except for psychological maladjustment and nervous ticks!
;) ;)

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: Johnny Vega on 03/31/05 at 8:43 am

Ok, I understand that this topic was made to address the problem of bullies, but some of you pplz are really tugging at my heartstrings...  :(  You're probably more self-confident then I am because people have always questioned who you are and I've never had anyone really question who I am....

I honestly think women should be chunky rofl

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: Alicia on 03/31/05 at 11:35 am


Alicia, you are beautiful. :-*

Just thought you needed to know that. :)

Love,
Your sister


You HAVE to say that because your my sister

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: Howard on 03/31/05 at 2:30 pm

My Brother and I were teased almost our whole lives.I remember one of our bullies' names was Steven Nissinoff and Eric Freud.Eric weighed 300 pounds and Steven was a skinny guy in High School.We always got pushed around,punched in the face,kicked to the ground and handled by them.We never wanted to fight back.as for me,I was always chicken.there was no reason to fight.Eric went to a fat farm and was never seen again and as for Steven,who the hell knows and I don't care! >:(

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: Johnny Vega on 03/31/05 at 2:51 pm

Damn, you peoples done been roughed up....

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: sputnikcorp on 03/31/05 at 3:39 pm

i had one bully in highschool. he taunted me ruthlessly. in fact, his torments caused me to fail 10th grade, i made excuses to stay home and sometimes i cut school altogether. failing 10th grade caused me to eventually to quit school entirely.

this one time i had enough. i drove to school with the intentions of murdering him. i had a loaded shotgun in the trunk of my fathers car and i parked beside the bully's car. i then drank myself into a stupor with rye. i planned to ambush him, blow him away in front of everybody. i never went through with it. i drove home and went to bed. he kept up tormenting me until he dropped out of school, leaving the last year the best year of my highschool days.

last year i was at mcdonalds with my then gf. i saw him in the other line with his wife (i assumed) and with two young children....having a child myself, i realised the angst he put me through yet i no longer felt angry towards him because he too was a father. i don't know if he still the same a@@hole as he was but our gazes locked for a second, i knew he recognized me but he showed no emotion. now i think, had i killed him, three children wouldn't have been born into this world....

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: Johnny Vega on 03/31/05 at 4:56 pm

i had one bully in highschool. he taunted me ruthlessly. in fact, his torments caused me to fail 10th grade, i made excuses to stay home and sometimes i cut school altogether. failing 10th grade caused me to eventually to quit school entirely.

Sorry to hear that, I wonder if that's why James Crump left my school now... because I tormented him so much. That's why I got out of bullying people, because I thought that people would flip out like you almost did.

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: Feiticeira on 03/31/05 at 6:23 pm

I've read most of the "stories" on here and it makes mine seem a little stupid.  But I was bullied in school.

There was always one kid who used to be really nasty to me, hurt me, spit on me, ruin my work and basically make my life as crap as possible.  There was a zero tolerance of fighting in my school but I just had to stick up for myself. After a while I got so fed up I bought some Jeet Kun Do books and pretty much taught myself the basics.  Needless to say I kicked this kids ass, and ever since then he never bothered with me.


However I don't always see why I had to learn something like that just to prevent someone from being an imbicile.

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: Dumb Ass Kid on 03/31/05 at 6:36 pm

When I first moved into where I currently live now, me and my mam (i don't have a dad, unfortunatley - passed away in a fire when I was 3  :\'() were targeted for the first few years we lived there by this group of kids who were, at the time, about 12 years old (I was 7/8ish. They would come around, mouth off, shout abuse at me and my mam and basically make our lives hell. Then , they grew up, got lives and went away somewhere and everything was fine. Until about 1999, when we got new neighbours. it turns out that the neighbour's eldest son knew a few lads from the estate. They were even worse than the first group of bullies. They would hurl abuse, throw stuff at my house, one of them went to my school and was a complete tit, and then one day I lost it. The neighbour's son (dick we shall call him) was more or less the 'leader' of the gang, and he decided one day to try and push me off this wall into some thorn bushes, and I snapped. I'd had enough, so I turned round, smacked 'Dick' in the face (which coincidentally caused his glasses to go flying!  ;D) and he let go of me and went to retrieve his glasses - face as red as beetroot infront of all my street!!! Very funny! He didn't half get some stick off his mates for that, and he even had a nice black eye to remember me by! Strangley enough, he and his friends left me alone after that (they had their odd moments but nothing greatly distressing), and now (because i'm older) everything's calmed down. The best way to sort out bullies - especially if it's a group - is just to smack the 'leader' in his big, stupid face. I swear - you punch him/her (if you're a girl, of course!), and they'll all leave you alone. You see, violence is the only language Bullies understand

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: Alicia on 03/31/05 at 10:37 pm


I've read most of the "stories" on here and it makes mine seem a little stupid.  But I was bullied in school.

There was always one kid who used to be really nasty to me, hurt me, spit on me, ruin my work and basically make my life as crap as possible.  There was a zero tolerance of fighting in my school but I just had to stick up for myself. After a while I got so fed up I bought some Jeet Kun Do books and pretty much taught myself the basics.  Needless to say I kicked this kids a**, and ever since then he never bothered with me.


However I don't always see why I had to learn something like that just to prevent someone from being an imbicile.


sweetie bullying (no matter what kind) is never stupid all of it is cruel so dont think like that :)

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: sputnikcorp on 03/31/05 at 10:49 pm


Sorry to hear that, I wonder if that's why James Crump left my school now... because I tormented him so much. That's why I got out of bullying people, because I thought that people would flip out like you almost did.


common sense kept me from killing. i guess i just needed to scare myself. whenever i see school shootings on the media it makes me emotional because i neared that precipice, i know what went through those killers heads, the hate, the fear....i need a drink.

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: Alicia on 03/31/05 at 10:52 pm


common sense kept me from killing. i guess i just needed to scare myself. whenever i see school shootings on the media it makes me emotional because i neared that precipice, i know what went through those killers heads, the hate, the fear....i need a drink.


Sorry to hear that  :\'(

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: sputnikcorp on 03/31/05 at 10:54 pm

i only told one other person about that. this topic brought out a lot of personal demons that need exorcising.

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: Alicia on 03/31/05 at 11:00 pm


i only told one other person about that. this topic brought out a lot of personal demons that need exorcising.


hey, if you EVER need someone to talk too, I am hear you can mail me personally..it's my goal in life to help people I've already talked to two people out of commiting suicide because they fewlt that their life was worse nothing. I love helping people in the sense that I know what its like when there is nobody there its not fun not having anyone...and what makes it good sometimes too is that some people can be total stranges and want to listen..I've talked to a bum once and he just listend and gave me some advice...so if you ever need to talk I'll listen and if you want someone just to listen and not give advice I'm good like that too

My mom had got me a therapist which didnt last long.  She thought that all my problems resolved around from being sexually abused and trying to pry into the family life trying to point a finger at people who I never even talke too....I hated her sometimes because I know that she didnt care about me...its just a job for her to get paid....and they get paid good so I stopped going to her after 4 sessions

Subject: Re: Bullies

Written By: Howard on 04/01/05 at 3:02 pm

I never wanted to fight and there was no reason to so that's why during the 1980's My Brother and I always had gotten picked on. :(

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