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Subject: Most similar pair of decades

Written By: DevoRule on 04/16/05 at 5:01 pm

I'd say 90s and 00s, but only a bit after 60s and 70s.  Also, the early 60s looks a lot like the 50s. 

The least similar are 70s and 80s and 80s and 90s.

Subject: Re: Most similar pair of decades

Written By: ElDuderino on 04/16/05 at 5:11 pm

90s and 00s no doubt. But that could change..

Because the first 3 years of the 80s were a LOT like the 70s, the first half of the 60s were not too different from the 50s, and the first couple of years of the 90s were a lot like the 80s.

Subject: Re: Most similar pair of decades

Written By: DevoRule on 04/16/05 at 9:59 pm


90s and 00s no doubt. But that could change..

Because the first 3 years of the 80s were a LOT like the 70s, the first half of the 60s were not too different from the 50s, and the first couple of years of the 90s were a lot like the 80s.


2004 has been very unlike the 90s (2000-2003 aren't too much like the 90s but there are so many holdovers).  I'd say 2006-2009 will be totally distinct.

Subject: Re: Most similar pair of decades

Written By: Marty McFly on 04/17/05 at 2:23 am

^ I think 2004/05 is still 75% the same as 1999 (well, certanly 2005 and 2001 are), but way different than even 1996.

1960-63 was almost the same as the 50's (1962 doesn't look hardly any different than 1958). Even at the tail end of '63 when JFK was assassinated and in early '64 when the British Invasion happened, arguably even that wasn't too different from the 50's until 1966/67 and the "Hippie era" got into full swing.

The 60's and the 70's had a certain likeness to each other (the main 60's was roughly 1966-70, so because that was fairly short, the main 70's -- 1971-77 say, wasn't too different from the 60's).

The 70's and 80's were different, but not in the same ways the 80's and 90's are. I'd say pieces of 70's culture held over until mid-1982 or so. In fact, a better way to describe the 80s would be a "wildly updated/made-over 70's". American Bandstand became MTV, etc.

In the 90's, it literally tried to break away from the 80's as hard as possible and create its own culture (i.e. grunge, Beavis & Butthead, and later in the decade, South Park, etc).

Subject: Re: Most similar pair of decades

Written By: DevoRule on 04/17/05 at 1:32 pm


^ I think 2004/05 is still 75% the same as 1999 (well, certanly 2005 and 2001 are), but way different than even 1996.

1960-63 was almost the same as the 50's (1962 doesn't look hardly any different than 1958). Even at the tail end of '63 when JFK was assassinated and in early '64 when the British Invasion happened, arguably even that wasn't too different from the 50's until 1966/67 and the "Hippie era" got into full swing.

The 60's and the 70's had a certain likeness to each other (the main 60's was roughly 1966-70, so because that was fairly short, the main 70's -- 1971-77 say, wasn't too different from the 60's).

The 70's and 80's were different, but not in the same ways the 80's and 90's are. I'd say pieces of 70's culture held over until mid-1982 or so. In fact, a better way to describe the 80s would be a "wildly updated/made-over 70's". American Bandstand became MTV, etc.

In the 90's, it literally tried to break away from the 80's as hard as possible and create its own culture (i.e. grunge, Beavis & Butthead, and later in the decade, South Park, etc).


Agreed with all, except I think the 70s are almost as different from the 80s as the 90s are.  Maybe like 95% as different, because I've heard in the early 80s the youth HATED everything 70s, even though it was still very much present, whereas in the very early 90s (I'd say late 1989-early 1992) at least SOME things from the 80s were still cool, like Depeche Mode and teased hair.  But by '95 or so the 90s was a different world from the 80s, so because of the 90s latter half it beats the 70s by a bit for being unlike the 80s.

But yeah, by 1992-93 the 90s totally backlashed against the 80s.  By 1997 things were almost like today with "South Park" and the boy/girl bands, which after nearly a decade is still almost as fresh now as in 1999.  I consider 1997-2001 to be 90s (in a cultural aspect) but I treat it differently than 1992-1996, the "core 90s" that belonged to about the same youth as the 80s did.  When I defend the 90s I'm generally talking about those better years.

As for the Zero Decade, I think it will be very innovative and distinct in its final few years, say 2006/07-09.

Subject: Re: Most similar pair of decades

Written By: Kyle on 04/17/05 at 1:39 pm


^ I think 2004/05 is still 75% the same as 1999 (well, certanly 2005 and 2001 are), but way different than even 1996.

In the 90's, it literally tried to break away from the 80's as hard as possible and create its own culture (i.e. grunge, Beavis & Butthead, and later in the decade, South Park, etc).


Agreed.  I also say that the year 2002 has more of a 2000 feel than anything else, and 2005 as you said, is a lot like 1999 in fashion and music.  But one other thing, I can see more 1998 in 2005 than '99.  Maybe it is a litlle bit of both.  ;)

Subject: Re: Most similar pair of decades

Written By: bbigd04 on 04/17/05 at 1:45 pm

2005 music is like 1999 music?  Look for hip-hop hits on the 1999 charts, you won't find too many. 2005 is dominated by punk rock and hip-hop. 1999 is more pop and alternative. One thing that I can definitely agree that hasn't changed much is the fashion.

Subject: Re: Most similar pair of decades

Written By: Marty McFly on 04/17/05 at 1:51 pm


Agreed with all, except I think the 70s are almost as different from the 80s as the 90s are. Maybe like 95% as different, because I've heard in the early 80s the youth HATED everything 70s, even though it was still very much present, whereas in the very early 90s (I'd say late 1989-early 1992) at least SOME things from the 80s were still cool, like Depeche Mode and teased hair. But by '95 or so the 90s was a different world from the 80s, so because of the 90s latter half it beats the 70s by a bit for being unlike the 80s.


Yeah, I've heard that too in some facets - I know disco was revilled in the early 80's (yet, oddly songs like on the first Madonna album, or Laura Branigan's "Gloria" are definitely influenced by that genre - go figure, LOL).

I think maybe the 80's disliked the 70's just as much as the early/mid 90's hated the 80's, but it seemed only that the changeover in both decades was handled differently.

Like I said, the 80's seems like they took things from the 70's and gave them a huge update/makeover because they were uncool (well, 1979 seems the only 70's year similar to the 80's, but say anything from 1971-77 and some of '78 would've been hated by 80's teens). Whereas, by mid-1992, 90's teens made their own new culture because the 80's were uncool.

Subject: Re: Most similar pair of decades

Written By: DevoRule on 04/19/05 at 5:19 pm


Yeah, I've heard that too in some facets - I know disco was revilled in the early 80's (yet, oddly songs like on the first Madonna album, or Laura Branigan's "Gloria" are definitely influenced by that genre - go figure, LOL).

I think maybe the 80's disliked the 70's just as much as the early/mid 90's hated the 80's, but it seemed only that the changeover in both decades was handled differently.

Like I said, the 80's seems like they took things from the 70's and gave them a huge update/makeover because they were uncool (well, 1979 seems the only 70's year similar to the 80's, but say anything from 1971-77 and some of '78 would've been hated by 80's teens). Whereas, by mid-1992, 90's teens made their own new culture because the 80's were uncool.


Agreed.  I'd say bits and pieces of the 70s went up to 1983 and bits of the 80s went up to 1992, but imo 1981-1990 is the "cultural 80s" and 1991-2000 is the "cultural 90s".  Bits of the late 90s (although not as much as it is often said here) are still around to this day, mostly in the form of fashion.

I wasn't around, but from what I've heard the 80s weren't HATED until 1992 or so, whereas the 70s were hated by about 1981.  That said, the 70s managed to stay around further into the 80s than 80s into the 90s (nobody in their right mind would say 1994 is 80s-like, whereas for 1984 it would still be a silly thing to say but not entirely without truth).

Subject: Re: Most similar pair of decades

Written By: Tanya1976 on 04/19/05 at 7:08 pm

late 90s and now (the early 90s had more promise, though)

Tanya

Subject: Re: Most similar pair of decades

Written By: Trimac20 on 04/21/05 at 4:47 am

The greatest societal change occured between about 1967 (The Summer of love, hippie explosion) to around 1975 (end of Vietnam war, beginning of disco era). There was an explosion of music styles, political ideas.etc. In 1965 the US was still very much surrounded by its 'white-picket fence.' By 75' everything had changed. I think the we haven't seen a big societal change since about 1991.

Subject: Re: Most similar pair of decades

Written By: DevoRule on 04/21/05 at 3:50 pm


The greatest societal change occured between about 1967 (The Summer of love, hippie explosion) to around 1975 (end of Vietnam war, beginning of disco era). There was an explosion of music styles, political ideas.etc. In 1965 the US was still very much surrounded by its 'white-picket fence.' By 75' everything had changed. I think the we haven't seen a big societal change since about 1991.


1991? I'd say 1994 or 1997.  Somewhere between 1994 and 1998 the "slacker" Gen X and 30-something Yuppies were replaced by Boomer parents and boy band loving (or hating), clubbing kids known as Gen Y. 

1993 is a lot different from 2005.  On the surface there are some similarities, ie Gangsta Rap seems like Mainstream but they both represent different things.  Also, people seem to have become more trusting of the government since then although the number of hippie types have gone up.

Basically, the Zero Decade has a different vibe and political climate than the 90s.  They seem similar at first but I think my life would be a lot different if I was born a decade earlier. I might not even have the Internet and this site would be opening about as I'm typing this. 

Yes, though, the late 90s, specifically 1997 to 1999, is a lot like today, but there's still some difference.

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