Anyone see the first day of the Ashes series from Lord's today?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/4700181.stm

I was working in a large office here in the UK today, at lunchtime (Australia 97-5) the blokes were all going wild with excitement!
I have to say I was trying to sound a note of caution, England haven't won anything yet etc. But by mid afternoon (Australia 190 all out),
even I was getting excited.

Oh well. I should have listened to my own warning bells  ::).

Hats off the Glenn McGrath though - I can't remember seeing such a fantastic spell of bowling.

Congratulations to Glenn McGrath - one of Australia's nice guys.  We did watch the cricket last night.  Paul went to bed very despondent, turned the TV on as soon as he woke to find that the Aussies had staged a fight back.  All happy again  :)

Thanks for your restrained response and for not rubbing our noses in it Janine ;).
I guess I should say that Australia haven't won anything (yet) either so we'll see what happens today.

It must have been a fantastic atmosphere in the Australian dressing room at the end of their innings. They may have been skittled out for what looked like a low score but I can just imagine Glenn McGrath's intensity and passion to get out there and get stuck into the England batsmen, particularly going after his 500th Test wicket.
It must have been a great feeling for him to look back on his bowling figures of 5-21 at the end of the day.

He put on some poncey shoes with "500" written in gold letters on them after he took his 500th wicket. I thought that was a bit naff, how did it go down in Australia!?

PS I should add that I have nothing but admiration for his fantastic bowling peformance, it was just the shoes that I wasn't too keen on.

He put on some poncey shoes with "500" written in gold letters on them after he took his 500th wicket. I thought that was a bit naff, how did it go down in Australia!?


It doesn't sound like his normal behaviour - I suspect Warney dared him... :P

I suspect Warney dared him... :P

Maybe....but they were proper pre-prepared shoes, like he'd brought them over on the plane specially for the occasion.
Actually I suspect they were custom made in advance by his shoe sponsor - Pony - and he got paid for wearing them.

If he hadn't worn them and the TV cameras hadn't zoomed in on them, I would not know that Glenn McGrath's shoe sponsor is Pony,
so I guess from their point of view it worked  ::). But I still think it was a naff thing to do.

Sponsors - even worse influences than fat airheaded team-mates! :D

Rain at Lord's today is so far sparing England from an ignominious defeat. I am downhearted due to England's inept performance and a very strong looking Australian team.

I heard on the BBC radio commentary that Glenn McGrath is being sponsored for every run he makes in this series for an Australian children's charity, so I can just about let him off the poncey shoes incident.

:)

I think the shoes were made by the sponsor in anticipation of his entering the 500 Club. It's not as if it wasn't a foreseeable possibility.

How about those Aussie bowling figures? Brett Lee is a demon.

Ouch! Painful defeat for England in the first Test.

After much hype about England's improved competitiveness for this Ashes series but really we've only shown some competitive bowling from Harmison, Flintoff and Jones and some fluid batting from Pietersen.

Vaughan, Bell and Flintoff all failed miserably with the bat, wicket keeping was amateurish and 6 dropped catches in the field was simply embarrassing. Dickie Bird (famous former English umpire, now author and media type) said of Pietersen's dropped catch of Martyn on 21 'E's dropped the Ashes with that one'.

On the Australian side you have Warne, Mcgrath & Lee looking on top form, only Jason Gillespie looks a little suspect and not quite the bowler he was. Martyn, Gilchrist, Katich and Clarke all look in good nick with the bat and the Australian fielding has been outstanding, notably Martyn's catch on the boundary off Pietersen and Lee's caught & bowled off Strauss.

All in all England need a massive improvement to mount a real challenge in the next Test and for the series.

Can't we exhume Jim Laker?

Lee hasn't played Test cricket for two years because the selectors wouldn't pick him. Too bad for England; he's making them pay for his suffering.

Can't we exhume Jim Laker?
Can Fred Trueman still bowl?

Ouch! Painful defeat for England in the first Test.

After much hype about England's improved competitiveness for this Ashes series but really we've only shown some competitive bowling from Harmison, Flintoff and Jones and some fluid batting from Pietersen.

Vaughan, Bell and Flintoff all failed miserably with the bat, wicket keeping was amateurish and 6 dropped catches in the field was simply embarrassing. Dickie Bird (famous former English umpire, now author and media type) said of Pietersen's dropped catch of Martyn on 21 'E's dropped the Ashes with that one'.

On the Australian side you have Warne, Mcgrath & Lee looking on top form, only Jason Gillespie looks a little suspect and not quite the bowler he was. Martyn, Gilchrist, Katich and Clarke all look in good nick with the bat and the Australian fielding has been outstanding, notably Martyn's catch on the boundary off Pietersen and Lee's caught & bowled off Strauss.

All in all England need a massive improvement to mount a real challenge in the next Test and for the series.
Bring back Tufnell!

Australia bowler Glenn McGrath (pictured below) has loaned to the MCC Museum the ball with which he took his 500th Test wicket, at Lord’s, on the first day of the npower Test match between England and Australia. Also on loan are the gold and white ‘500’ boots which had been made especially for the Test, in anticipation of him claiming his landmark wicket at the 'Home of Cricket'.

http://www.lords.org/data/images/width150/mcgrath-and-boots-portrait-36165.jpg

Naff shoes Glenn. Naff naff naff naff naff!

Glenn McGrath is injured and unable to play in the Edgebaston Test.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/4744795.stm

Huge sighs of relief from the England team and their fans, unarguably a blow for Australia.
I don't know Michael Kasprowicz, any Australians care to comment on him?

Glenn McGrath is injured and unable to play in the Edgebaston Test.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/4744795.stm

Huge sighs of relief from the England team and their fans, unarguably a blow for Australia.

Hurrah! Much rejoicing...let's have a public holiday!

I don't know Michael Kasprowicz, any Australians care to comment on him?

Probably a McGrath clone knowing our luck...

I don't know Michael Kasprowicz, any Australians care to comment on him?



He's no McGrath, but I wouldn't be breathing easy.

Awww, flippin' 'eck!

Kasprowicz has just come of for his first spell after lunch.....and taken 2 wickets!

Michael Vaughan needs a big innings to consolidate now....let's see.

The phrase 'out of the frying pan into the fire' jumps at me...

Still...go to it, lads...you've got nothing to fear (hopefully!)

Blast! Vaughan's innings come crashing to a halt at 24...

Flintoff and Pietersen monstering the bowlers now... 100 off 96 balls.

Just shows the worth of McGrath - if they take the same risks against him, it usually ends in tears before long.

Glenn McGrath is injured and unable to play in the Edgebaston Test.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/4744795.stm

Huge sighs of relief from the England team and their fans, unarguably a blow for Australia.
I don't know Michael Kasprowicz, any Australians care to comment on him?

Phew!

Oh @*$&!

Saturday morning, 40 minutes into the third day and England are 32-4 as I write (that's 4-32 to you Australians ;)).

I'm listening to the BBC commentary on the internet, Kevin Pietersen has just hit two sixes in one over off Shane Warne so that's 44-4.
I have a feeling that England's hopes reside with Kevin Pietersen (well known son of errrrmmmmm.....South Africa!).

Oh @*$&!

Saturday morning, 40 minutes into the third day and England are 32-4 as I write (that's 4-32 to you Australians ;)).

I'm listening to the BBC commentary on the internet, Kevin Pietersen has just hit two sixes in one over off Shane Warne so that's 44-4.
I have a feeling that England's hopes reside with Kevin Pietersen (well known son of errrrmmmmm.....South Africa!).

Kevin Pietersen should know how to played Shane Warne, as SW is his County Team Captain.

Kevin Pietersen should know how to played Shane Warne, as SW is his County Team Captain.

...and vice versa, of course :(.

Pietersen caught Gilchrtist, bowled Warne for 20.
I'm not convinced that Pietersen's glove actually made contact with the ball but hey ho, Kevin's back in the pavilion.

As one of the commentators said this morning, Australia have shown plenty of quality, passion and commitment in this morning's session, I can but take my hat off to them. It will just make it all that more satisfying when we beat them though ;).

It will just make it all that more satisfying when we beat them though ;).


Oooh, maddog, shame it won't be any time soon though hey ?  :P :P :P :P :)

Oooh, maddog, shame it won't be any time soon though hey ?  :P :P :P :P :)
Lunch has finished, players and umpires are back on the field.

Lunch has finished, players and umpires are back on the field.


As I was reading this, Jones got out to Lee, and the downfall continues  :)

Oooh, maddog, shame it won't be any time soon though hey ?  :P :P :P :P :)


One out of five would be nice...

...whether it'll be acheived this year, I couldn't say!


Bastards! (In the 'friendly' vernacular, of course!)

It looks like Freddy Flintoff has an injured shoulder, he is not hitting so well.

Oooh, maddog, shame it won't be any time soon though hey ?  :P :P :P :P :)

I shall refrain from comment until tomorrow  ;).

I shall refrain from comment until tomorrow  ;).


Quite so maddog !  The ball appears to be in your court, so to speak, what ?  :)


One out of five would be nice...

...whether it'll be acheived this year, I couldn't say!


Bastards! (In the 'friendly' vernacular, of course!)


;D  I took it as friendly, without thinking  :)

Looks like i may need a re-think, you bastards are gonna square the series and make it interesting for once  :o  OMG !

And that means I won't be able to resurrect my favourite banner, that we Aussies got to use in the crowd at Upton Park a few years ago, when at the end of the game I saw a scoreline I had never thought I would see in my lifetime: England 1 Australia 3  :o :P :P :P

So I will display here just for old times' sake hee hee  ;D

Looks like i may need a re-think, you bastards are gonna square the series and make it interesting for once  :o  OMG !

Hang on, old chap!

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory? That's...that's our job...!!

Still, makes it more of an interesting prospect...(unfurls moth-eaten St George flag...)

And that means I won't be able to resurrect my favourite banner, that we Aussies got to use in the crowd at Upton Park a few years ago, when at the end of the game I saw a scoreline I had never thought I would see in my lifetime: England 1 Australia 3  :o :P :P :P

So I will display here just for old times' sake hee hee  ;D


Bastard!

Bastard!


Thank you very much, your compliment has been accepted  :D

Maddog ?

Paul ?

Getting nervous ?

20 runs to go at this point  :) :) :) :) :) :)

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory? That's...that's our job...!!


How those words could come back to haunt me...!!

Five for Aus to win...

Phew! Gottem with 2 runs to spare!

Fantastic stuff...not saying that because we've squared the series, but because that was, without much doubt, one of the greatest test matches I think I've ever listened to/seen...

If all matches were guaranteed to be like that, we could even sell the game to the Americans!

Well done lads, and kudos to the opposition for pushing us to the wire...

Phew! Gottem with 2 runs to spare!

Fantastic stuff...not saying that because we've squared the series, but one of the greatest test matches I think I've ever listened to/seen...

If all matches were guaranteed to be like that, we could even sell the game to the Americans!

Let's not TOO cariied away Paulie  ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D

Well done lads, and kudos to the opposition for pushing us to the wire...


CONGRATULATIONS - I got a Sunday night's entertainment I didn't think would happen  :)

Philip - Sorry to have left you out  ;)

Let's not TOO cariied away Paulie  ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D

Heh! There's true...

CONGRATULATIONS - I got a Sunday night's entertainment I didn't think would happen  :)


I started off with hardly any fingernails...I daren't look at what's left now!

Phew! Gottem with 2 runs to spare!

Fantastic stuff...not saying that because we've squared the series, but because that was, without much doubt, one of the greatest test matches I think I've ever listened to/seen...

If all matches were guaranteed to be like that, we could even sell the game to the Americans!

Well done lads, and kudos to the opposition for pushing us to the wire...
A great win for England and by two runs too!

A remarkable picture from a remarkable finish, Andrew Flintoff immediately consoles Brett Lee, in what was a remarkable sporting gesture

http://content.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/52100/52152.jpg

Hey Luke, I was deliberately vague about exactly WHEN we might eventually beat Australia in a Test match...and for most of this morning I was thinking I'd been wise to keep my counsel last night and not celebrate too early!

I really felt that the Australians were going to do it...after leaping around the room and disturbing the neighbourhood at the end, I also felt a tinge of sympathy for
Kasprowicz who put on such a great last man stand with Lee, only to be given out when the replay showed this was actually the wrong decision (his glove
was off the bat when the ball hit his glove, technically this is not out!).

This was just a fantastic Test match, I'm not a regular cricket fan by any means but this Ashes series has got me more excited than anything since 1981.
Andrew Flintoff yesterday was just incredible to watch and Shane Warne earned my permanent respect for his outstanding performance with bat and ball, but
also for his sportsmanship. He was quick to congratulate English batsmen who actually managed to fend off some of his more devious deliveries.

Roll on Thursday here in Manchester for the 3rd Test. I tried to get a ticket 2 months ago but it was already sold out, could have sold out 4 times over apparently.

Congrats to the Poms  :)  All the males in the household are a bit cranky ::)

Hey Luke, I was deliberately vague about exactly WHEN we might eventually beat Australia in a Test match...and for most of this morning I was thinking I'd been wise to keep my counsel last night and not celebrate too early!

You are a wise man indeed  :)

I really felt that the Australians were going to do it...after leaping around the room and disturbing the neighbourhood at the end, I also felt a tinge of sympathy for Kasprowicz who put on such a great last man stand with Lee, only to be given out when the replay showed this was actually the wrong decision (his glove was off the bat when the ball hit his glove, technically this is not out!).

An honest man too  :)  However, Billy Bowden didn't have that benefit, and there was a deflection amid the whirring arms and bat, so his decision was understandable !

This was just a fantastic Test match, I'm not a regular cricket fan by any means but this Ashes series has got me more excited than anything since 1981. Andrew Flintoff yesterday was just incredible to watch and Shane Warne earned my permanent respect for his outstanding performance with bat and ball, but also for his sportsmanship. He was quick to congratulate English batsmen who actually managed to fend off some of his more devious deliveries.

I agree however it nonetheless remains a shame that as an individual and ambassador for my country he remains a jerk OFF the cricket field.  There are distinct parallels to be observed.  Benaud/Warne is the same as Pele/Maradona. 

Richie Benaud & Pele : Respected the world over for their integrity, the way they carried themselves, the example they set for youngsters.  Both are renowned and remembered for what they have done OFF the sporting field as well as on it.

Shane Warne & Diego Maradona : Also great sporting talents, but gee whiz, what better examples of "How much greater could they have been" had they simply let their skills do the talking for them...  Warne has survived his crises better than did Maradona, his sins/excesses have perhaps been of a 'lesser nature'.  Diego is a perfect example of someone who had it all and threw it away.

I digress.  It is frightening to think that not too long ago Warne was being touted as a future captain  :o ::)

Roll on Thursday here in Manchester for the 3rd Test. I tried to get a ticket 2 months ago but it was already sold out, could have sold out 4 times over apparently.


Excellent, sorry you can't make it.  One word of advice.  The biggest problem the Englishmen now face is overconfidence.  It was exactly what brought you undone in the afrorementioned football match against us a few years ago.  Your press were talking in terms of "how many" would be scored against us.  Your clubs refused to release most of the top line players because it was "only Australia" you were playing against.  In my wildest dreams I still didn't think we would win, but I knew also there wouldn't be more than one or two goals in it.

Right now, you face the same dangers.  One match does not make a summer.  Some parting thoughts :

The Aussies played like crap for most of the match and still only just lost.  Your boys played out of their skin and still only just won.  It is worth thinking about.  Resistence is futile  ;D

Paul and Phil, take note also heh heh  :P :P :P :P :)

One word of advice.  The biggest problem the Englishmen now face is overconfidence.  It was exactly what brought you undone in the afrorementioned football match against us a few years ago.  Your press were talking in terms of "how many" would be scored against us.  Your clubs refused to release most of the top line players because it was "only Australia" you were playing against.  In my wildest dreams I still didn't think we would win, but I knew also there wouldn't be more than one or two goals in it.

Now sure how your press operates, but over here it's probably the most two-faced thing on Earth...

They love all the big 'talk up', but should things fail to materialise as they should, then they're rapidly queueing up to stick the boot in...

There are still plenty of us who'll turn round and say, 'Ah! But it was only a friendly'...true, but it doesn't bode well...

I knew that game was going to be close and, truth be told, I was amazed, but not 100% surprised that we lost it...the quicker S G-E goes, the better - the talent's there, but we'll prove nothing under this joker...

Anyway, what's with all this 'only Australia' nonsense? There's some fine players in that outfit...

Right now, you face the same dangers.  One match does not make a summer.  Some parting thoughts :

The Aussies played like crap for most of the match and still only just lost.  Your boys played out of their skin and still only just won.  It is worth thinking about.  Resistence is futile  ;D

True, but taking a confidence 'knock' certainly isn't needed!

Anyway, you lot would've only got bored winning the series 5-0...

Still, we'll see how things work out over the coming weeks...

The Aussies played like crap for most of the match and still only just lost.  Your boys played out of their skin and still only just won. 
I don't quite agree with this. Flintoff certainly played out of his skin but many English players were well below their best. Vaughan and Bell both failed to perform with the bat. Pietersen had a good first innings and was the victim of a dubious decision in the second. Harmison didn't really find good form in either innings. Most of England's fielding was average, although it was an improvement over Lord's.

All in all, if England's key players could all find some form at the same time then the team could see a significant improvement over Edgbaston.

I don't quite agree with this. Flintoff certainly played out of his skin but many English players were well below their best. Vaughan and Bell both failed to perform with the bat. Pietersen had a good first innings and was the victim of a dubious decision in the second. Harmison didn't really find good form in either innings. Most of England's fielding was average, although it was an improvement over Lord's.

All in all, if England's key players could all find some form at the same time then the team could see a significant improvement over Edgbaston.
It is an unchanged England team for the 3rd Test at Old Trafford.

It is an unchanged England team for the 3rd Test at Old Trafford.


That's OK, I wasn't suggesting any changes in the team. However, I am hoping for improvements from Vaughan, Bell and Harmison in particular!

That's OK, I wasn't suggesting any changes in the team. However, I am hoping for improvements from Vaughan, Bell and Harmison in particular!
The current talk is bringing Ed Joyce from Middlesex into the side, but where can he go? Like Robert Key before, injuries to the side and a debut can be made. Anyway Middlesex still need him

I don't quite agree with this. Flintoff certainly played out of his skin but many English players were well below their best. Vaughan and Bell both failed to perform with the bat. Pietersen had a good first innings and was the victim of a dubious decision in the second. Harmison didn't really find good form in either innings. Most of England's fielding was average, although it was an improvement over Lord's.

All in all, if England's key players could all find some form at the same time then the team could see a significant improvement over Edgbaston.


Fuss does have a point though. The way Australia was playing, they should have been steamrolled. We did lose to Bangladesh, remember.  ;) If we get our form back before the 3rd Test, it's going to be a massacre.

Just seen this, looks like Brett Lee could well be unfit for the 3rd Test:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/4133096.stm

Ooo. Stuart MacGill.

Is that an optimistic or a pessimistic "Ooo" there, Powerslave? ;)

Ooo. Stuart MacGill.
Did Stuart MacGill play for Notts a few seasons back?

Latest score at Old Trafford

67 for 1 (18.3 overs)

Trescothick goes for 63, via a rather strange (by the sound of it) dismissal by...

Shane Warne, who's just claimed his 600th wicket...

Regardless of his goings-on off the field, that's an incredible figure...well done to the man...

I'm so frustrated that I couldn't get a ticket :(.
I'm sat here in my office in Salford Quays, looking out of the window I can see both the Old Trafford football ground to one side and the cricket ground to the other. With the window open we could probably hear the crowd at the cricket ground but the windows don't open for safety reasons (6 floors up)!

Say !  You guys are starting to annoy us  ;D

Say !  You guys are starting to annoy us  ;D


(Whispers to all those of English stock...)

Don't respond...look what happened last time!

The wicket is obviously favourable for batting so we'll just wait to see what happens during the Australian first innings.
Plus, the weather forecast is rain for Saturday so who knows what the result could be - quite possibly a draw.

Congrats to Shane Warne on his 600 Test wickets, I was glad to see my home crowd giving him a warm ovation for that milestone.

Has McGrath been recalled from injury too soon? That's the question, surely. His bowling was outstanding as always today but at the end of the day
he looked very tired....

(Whispers to all those of English stock...)

Don't respond...look what happened last time!


Errrmmm - didn't we win last time  ;)?

Errrmmm - didn't we win last time  ;)?


Yes, but we also had a 'good first day' the last time...

...and nearly lost it on the dead!

The natural order of things is being disturbed  ;D

There is a terrible disturbance in the universe  ;D

I never thought I would see the day when the 'no-goodnicks' ruled  ;D


And other assorted cliches  :P ;)

I'm sat here in my office in Salford Quays, looking out of the window I can see both the Old Trafford football ground to one side and the cricket ground to the other. With the window open we could probably hear the crowd at the cricket ground but the windows don't open for safety reasons (6 floors up)!


Just wait for Andy Flintoff to start batting - you'll probably get a ball crashing though your window soon enough! :D

Trescothick goes for 63, via a rather strange (by the sound of it) dismissal by...

Shane Warne, who's just claimed his 600th wicket...

Regardless of his goings-on off the field, that's an incredible figure...well done to the man...
Shane Warne is the World's Greatest Bowler, and has a heart of gold.

Shane Warne is the World's Greatest Bowler, and has a heart of gold.


He's still a tool  ::)  Arm chair expert's *  comment this morning "Adam Gilchrist couldn't catch a bloody cold!" and various other mumblings  ::) 

* husband

He's still a tool  ::)  Arm chair expert's *  comment this morning "Adam Gilchrist couldn't catch a bloody cold!" and various other mumblings  ::) 

* husband


Agreed, jaytee.  Warne's greatness as a cricketer is matched by his 'tool-ed-ness'  ;D  After all, ask any number of women (admittedly, only english ones, whom own mobile phones) exactly what he can do with his flipper  ::)

As for peetee's mumblings, well, the guy has to make a mistake occasionally  :)

3 in one day is a bit much though! :P

3 in one day is a bit much though! :P


Yeah!  Poor guy must have been really warne out  ;D

Stumps on Day Two:

Australia trail by 234 runs with 3 wickets remaining in the 1st innings

I'm off on holiday to the English seaside tomorrow....will be following all developments on the radio but won't be posting on here for the next week.

I'm enjoying this Ashes series so much, keep the thread going guys! cheers - Graham

I'm off on holiday to the English seaside tomorrow....will be following all developments on the radio but won't be posting on here for the next week.

I'm enjoying this Ashes series so much, keep the thread going guys! cheers - Graham


Have a good time maddog !

I think some of the Aussie team must be at the beach as well  :o :o :o

Day 3, start delayed due to rain.

The latest scene at Old Trafford

http://www.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/52300/52328.1.jpg

My rain dance worked I see  :P ;)

Aussies heap praise on Old Trafford groundsman for his pitch preparation on Day 3 :  :P

Aussie fans greet the Manchester weather with typical understatement  :D

Aussies heap praise on Old Trafford groundsman for his pitch preparation on Day 3 :  :P

Is that the office block Maddog works at in the background?

Maddog
I'm sat here in my office in Salford Quays, looking out of the window I can see both the Old Trafford football ground to one side and the cricket ground to the other. With the window open we could probably hear the crowd at the cricket ground but the windows don't open for safety reasons (6 floors up)!

Is that the office block Maddog works at in the background?

Maddog


I see him at the window now  :)

I see him at the window now  :)
I can too, leaning out waving with one hand, and an umbrella in the other.

There is one small update, four runs have been added to the Australian total.
     
Yesterday, when Simon Jones bowled a beamer, Steve Bucknor, the umpire, was so busy giving the bowler his warning and speaking to him that he forgot to signal the four byes.Now the match officials have got together and decided that the four runs should go to Australia. This means they only need to get 31 more to avoid the follow-on when play begins.


     
       
       

Delay - Day 3 - rain stops play

Australia trail by 199 runs with 3 wickets remaining in the 1st innings

Delay - Day 3 - rain stops play

Australia trail by 199 runs with 3 wickets remaining in the 1st innings



I hardly dare ask, as I know nothing about the game, but is this a good thing (from your point of view)?  :-\\

From his point of view - rather good!  From Fuss and mine - not so good! :)

You could say it's like playing in a baseball game where you are 5 runs down in the bottom of the 8th with 2 out. Not an impossible situation, but not one you'd like to be in...  Or perhaps being 2-0 down at half-time at home in the return leg of a Champions Cup match after drawing 1-1 away...

From his point of view - rather good!  From Fuss and mine - not so good! :)


Then why did you put up a smiley? ??? Must be a typo, I guess...


You could say it's like playing in a baseball game where you are 5 runs down in the bottom of the 8th with 2 out. Not an impossible situation, but not one you'd like to be in...

Well, that still sounds better to me than being 5 runs down bottom 9th with 2 out... ;)

About the only thing I know about cricket is that the object of the game is to score as many runs as possible. And that's where my knowledge ends. I have never made an effort to go into the rules of the game, I admit. They appear to be too complex for me. :-\\

About the only thing I know about cricket is that the object of the game is to score as many runs as possible. And that's where my knowledge ends. I have never made an effort to go into the rules of the game, I admit. They appear to be too complex for me. :-\\
While one side is scoring the runs, the other side is trying to bowl or get them out.

While one side is scoring the runs, the other side is trying to bowl or get them out.


I figured something like that!  ;)

I figured something like that!  ;)
I will prepare for a better explanation of the game.

I will prepare for a better explanation of the game.


You're a brave man! :) That might take you quite some time...

Fourth Day: England declare on 280-6...

...which means Australia need 423 to win...

...should be a cracking last day tomorrow for all concerned!

Fourth Day: England declare on 280-6...

...which means Australia need 423 to win...

...should be a cracking last day tomorrow for all concerned!
There is still the rest of the day to play...

There is still the rest of the day to play...


True...but tomorrow's where all the action's gonna be at!

I'm taking the phone off the hook at work!

True...but tomorrow's where all the action's gonna be at!

I'm taking the phone off the hook at work!
The issue of the light could play a part in the remainder of today's play.

Current score Monday 2.30

Australia 175-4 (target 423)

Well, no 'last minute' joy for us on this occasion as we couldn't break Australia's stubborn last wicket partnership and the match is drawn...

Once again, some fantastic cricket by both sides played throughout, not least the centuries by both captains...

So the next test will be a 'crunch one'...see you all at Trent Bridge!

We had our dinner later than usual yesterday so we could all watch the last few overs.  When Elizabeth had calmed down over the fact that The Simpsons wasn't on she quite enjoyed it.

Thank goodness we hung on !!  :)

Thank goodness we hung on !!  :)


You should have heard us begging for McGrath's wicket to fall.

You should have heard us begging for McGrath's wicket to fall.


I can well imagine!  :D

...see you all at Trent Bridge!



Bring it on!  :)

Bring it on!  :)


Indeed  :D  Methinks the pendulum be swinging back  ;)

Is that the office block Maddog works at in the background?

Maddog

The big office block behind the pavilion is NOT the one I work in, ours is one of the murky ones you can see a bit further in the distance off to the left.

Getting geared up here for the 4th Test in Nottingham on Thursday, getting excited again :).
I listened to the last day of the Old Trafford Test on my trusty battery powered radio with headphones while sitting on the beach in Norfolk. A warm day with unusually large breakers crashing in on the beach, following a storm out in the North Sea the day before. We even had some actual surfers ....in Norfolk!

At this point in the English summer the weather starts to turn so I'm hoping for no further interruptions to play.

And *ahem* might I bring up the subject of the Tri Nations at this point? Maybe not  :P.

And *ahem* might I bring up the subject of the Tri Nations at this point? Maybe not  :P.




Who cares about Rugby? This thread is about Cricket, and how good we are at that.

Who cares about Rugby? This thread is about Cricket, and how good we are at that.


I thought this might be a touchy subject. My apologies for mentioning it. 

I thought this might be a touchy subject. My apologies for mentioning it. 
Cricket is the game of summer, it is still summer and it is still the cricket season

Shaun Tait will replace Jason Gillespie and make his Test debut for Australia in Thursday's fourth Ashes Test.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40727000/jpg/_40727950_rain_ap300200.jpg

Yeap, it rained again, but the score at stumps on the first day is England on 229/4, after 60 overs.

I only got to watch the 30 minute highlights of the first day's play yesterday evening, so my comments are based solely on what I saw there.
England seem to be making reasonable progress to a healthy first innings score, somewhat assisted by some wayward bowling from Australia.
Was it 19 no balls in the day? That's a lot, particularly expensive when Brett Lee splattered Michael Vaughan's stumps only to find it was a no ball
(actually a pretty extravagant no ball as his foot was about 18 inches beyond the crease!).

Shaun Tait looked a bit unorthodox in his bowling style but his delivery to dismiss Trescothick was a beauty.
I felt sorry for Kasprowicz as he seemed to be bowling quite well, only to suffer a couple of drops (one by himself) and an unlucky fumble while fielding on the boundary that earned him a lot of stick from the crowd. The English crowd have started to perform "juggling" mimes for each Australian dropped chance. There do seem to have been a lot of these in this series, admittedly by England too.

Day 2 - wow! Somebody pinch me to make sure I'm not dreaming. England 477 all out, Australia 99-5.

These are the sort of scores we've been used to seeing in Ashes matches over the last 20 years, only reversed.
Apparently a couple of dodgy lbw decisions went against Australia but I don't think there's any doubt that England deserve to be in this position.
Great to see Matthew Hoggard get amongst the wickets and a fantastic century for Andrew Flintoff.

Day 2 - wow! Somebody pinch me to make sure I'm not dreaming. England 477 all out, Australia 99-5.
Yeap, it is the same score as in the match I have been watching too.

;D

You guys (the English team that is) are starting to get really annoying  :) :) :)

Seriously, you deserve the success you are having, it has been a long time in the doldrums, and obviously there has been a lot of work done to get you competitive again  :)

Seriously, you deserve the success you are having, it has been a long time in the doldrums, and obviously there has been a lot of work done to get you competitive again  :)


Nice comments there...said through gritted teeth, I'll wager!

Still...game of two innings...blah blah blah!

Seriously though, it's all good for the sport's 'image' - not just here, but worldwide, as there's been some smashing cricket played all round...

And, should we get a little 'overconfident', it's worth remembering that in order to 'win' The Ashes, we have to actually win both of the last remaining tests! Anything less, and they're still 'retained' by Australia...

Nice comments there...said through gritted teeth, I'll wager!

Still...game of two innings...blah blah blah!

Seriously though, it's all good for the sport's 'image' - not just here, but worldwide, as there's been some smashing cricket played all round...

And, should we get a little 'overconfident', it's worth remembering that in order to 'win' The Ashes, we have to actually win both of the last remaining tests! Anything less, and they're still 'retained' by Australia...


Not at all, Paul  :)  Well, maybe a tad  ;)

But you are right, it IS good for the game.  There was a time a few years ago when Australia were giving most countries a hiding, and even as an Aussie, there was 'something' missing from the enjoyment....

You are slightly incorrect though, after 3 tests - it is 1-1, you guys just need to win one and then not lose the other.....  ;)

You are slightly incorrect though, after 3 tests - it is 1-1, you guys just need to win one and then not lose the other.....  ;)


Bad bit of explaining by me there...

As holders, all you lot need to do is draw the series to retain it...that sound better?

Bad bit of explaining by me there...

As holders, all you lot need to do is draw the series to retain it...that sound better?


I don't like our chances of that. Australia is playing really bad cricket.

I don't like our chances of that. Australia is playing really bad cricket.


In fact, what they are playing at the moment "is just not cricket"  :o

You got that right, mate.  :(

You got that right, mate.  :(


And now I hear that Ricky Ponting swore at someone after getting out !  Imagine that  ::) ;D

A bloody good stubborn fightback this afternoon, tho'...

Hopefully we shouldn't let this slip...but this is England!

Strange things do happen!

And now I hear that Ricky Ponting swore at someone after getting out !  Imagine that  ::) ;D
...and the Umpires have now placed an offical complaint on this matter.

...and the Umpires have now placed an offical complaint on this matter.


Sooks!  :)

What a great catch by Andrew Strauss.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40734000/jpg/_40734966_strauss300.jpg

Warney's doing some damage...!

Can we hold out?!!

Warney's doing some damage...!

Can we hold out?!!
Pietersen has just gone for 23, five wickets down.

Come Freddy, only another 26 runs remaining.

Not insulting the quality of the sportsmen out there, but...

...why do we always end up making this bit bloody difficult?!!

Not insulting the quality of the sportsmen out there, but...

...why do we always end up making this bit bloody difficult?!!
Just score the remaing runs in singles, for there are still three sessions tomorrow, but it would be nice to wrap it up tonight.

Not insulting the quality of the sportsmen out there, but...

...why do we always end up making this bit bloody difficult?!!
Flintoff has gone now.

England require another 15 runs with 4 wickets remaining

By the way, England won.

Well, got the victory after another close call...

A lot has been said about the Australians' 'poor' cricket, but make no mistake - their second innings is what I'm more used to seeing from them...

And, just to make it interesting (in a speculative sort of way) - they may have McGrath back for the final test but we may not have Jones...

Should be a killer of a final test...see you at my old 'stomping ground' - The Oval...

Not only did the Australia (men) lose the match yesterday, but in the Second women' s Test at Worcester, day four (lunch): England 289 & 75-4 beat Australia 131 & 232 by six wickets

;D ;D ;D

Hey people, I am starting to run out of ways to be nice to you all about this  :P :P :P :P

Seems a shame that one of us is gonna end up defeated...

Without doubt the most exciting series since 'that' one in '81...

I've been away for the weekend (Bank Holiday here in England) but once again I was finding multiple excuses to p!ss my wife off and find a TV in a bar somewhere to watch the cricket. I ended up watching the final half hour through a window from a hotel swimming pool, looking into the hotel bar. I couldn't risk getting dry and changed in case I missed the whole thing so I was standing there dripping wet, cheering and groaning in quick sequence while most of the families splashing around in the pool were giving me strange looks.

Australia's fight back in this 4th Test was nothing less than we should expect from a team with such quality in depth. True, there are some players in the team who look well past their best (Matthew Hayden for one) but Shane Warne and Brett Lee have earned nothing but admiration from English sports fans this summer.

The other thing I wanted to mention was the fantastic TV coverage here in England on Channel 4. The camera work, the analysis, the commentators, the interviews - all excellent. We have the benefit of Michael Atherton and Richie Benaud commentating over here, it's great to listen to. The bad news is that the England Cricket Board have sold out the rights to Sky from the end of this year we'll all have to pay to see Test cricket for the next 4 years. Murdoch's revenge?

For all those fans of Richie Benaud out there, here's an entertaining desktop Richie that is available from the UK TV station covering the Ashes series, Channel 4.

http://www.channel4.com/sport/cricket/interactive/richie.html

Richie Benaud isn't signed up for Sky TV so this series could be the last time we in the UK have the benefit of his commentary. I don't remember Richie as a player but he's been part of UK cricket broadcasting for as long as I can remember. It'll be a great pity if we do lose him from our TV screens.

I will prepare for a better explanation of the game.


I am still waiting (anxiously)... ::)

I am still waiting (anxiously)... ::)


Cricket explained briefly:

You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out. When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.

When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out. When both sides have been in and all the men have been out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game.

Cricket explained briefly:

You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out. When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.

When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out. When both sides have been in and all the men have been out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game.


So basically you're either in or out?  :D It all makes perfect sense to me now, Philip!   ;D ;)

So basically you're either in or out?  :D It all makes perfect sense to me now, Philip!   ;D ;)
Seriously the Laws of the Game Cricket can be read on http://www.lords.org/laws-and-spirit/laws-of-cricket/laws/

Seriously the Laws of the Game Cricket can be read on http://www.lords.org/laws-and-spirit/laws-of-cricket/laws/


Thanks for that link, Philip. :)

I am still waiting (anxiously)... ::)


Try wikipedia Henk....although I think it might be more entertaining if we English and Australian posters tried to explain it for you!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket

Thanks for that link, Philip. :)



Try wikipedia Henk....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket


There's an awful lot of Laws to the game...and they're all in English (which makes it even harder for me). I think I'm gonna try to find something in Dutch, if you don't mind. ;)



...although I think it might be more entertaining if we English and Australian posters tried to explain it for you!



Now there's a thought! ::)

You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out. When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.


In, out, in, out - you shake it all about...

There's an awful lot of Laws to the game...and they're all in English (which makes it even harder for me). I think I'm gonna try to find something in Dutch, if you don't mind. ;)

I haven't found any such link I'm afraid, Henk, but I guess it must be out there somehwere. The Holland cricket team certainly participated in the last Cricket World Cup in 2003 and they've recently qualified for the next one (sometime in early 2007 I think).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/4673417.stm

Henk

The wikipedia pages have Dutch as an option.  Not sure if all the same information is on the Dutch section though.  Another option is to paste the link into Babelfish and that will translate the whole web page for you.


I haven't found any such link I'm afraid, Henk, but I guess it must be out there somehwere. The Holland cricket team certainly participated in the last Cricket World Cup in 2003 and they've recently qualified for the next one (sometime around Christmas 2005 I think).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/4673417.stm


I was just about to write that I thought they had played in the cricket world cup before

I can't honestly tell you how much I'm enjoying the cricket this Summer! It's crazy as number 1) I don't understand it, and number 2) I have never shown even a miniscule interest in the sport until they played at Edgbaston this year. I only live 20 minutes away from Edgbaston and was helping out a radio station that week, so I was down at the ground doing interviews with those watching, and it was constantly on in the newsroom. But even then I wasn't hooked. The last day of the second test got me glued.

I was told to keep an eye on the score for my boyfriend who was at work and couldn't watch it, and that's when it happened! Couldn't believe how close that test was, as was the fourth test, my god - they can't keep doing that to us! Hopefully England will win and get the Ashes this year as it's about time (or so I've heard ;)).

I can't honestly tell you how much I'm enjoying the cricket this Summer! It's crazy as number 1) I don't understand it, and number 2) I have never shown even a miniscule interest in the sport until they played at Edgbaston this year. I only live 20 minutes away from Edgbaston and was helping out a radio station that week, so I was down at the ground doing interviews with those watching, and it was constantly on in the newsroom. But even then I wasn't hooked. The last day of the second test got me glued.

I was told to keep an eye on the score for my boyfriend who was at work and couldn't watch it, and that's when it happened! Couldn't believe how close that test was, as was the fourth test, my god - they can't keep doing that to us! Hopefully England will win and get the Ashes this year as it's about time (or so I've heard ;)).
Sounds like a great introduction to the game, and now we can only wait for the Fifth Test at The Oval.

I haven't found any such link I'm afraid, Henk, but I guess it must be out there somehwere. The Holland cricket team certainly participated in the last Cricket World Cup in 2003 and they've recently qualified for the next one (sometime in early 2007 I think).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/4673417.stm



Henk

The wikipedia pages have Dutch as an option.  Not sure if all the same information is on the Dutch section though.  Another option is to paste the link into Babelfish and that will translate the whole web page for you.

I was just about to write that I thought they had played in the cricket world cup before


Thanks! I haven't had time to check it out, but I most certainly will. ;)

A couple of snippets to get us in the mood for the final Test starting on Thursday:

1. Richie Benaud will make his last commentary on UK TV after 42 years - he'll be sadly missed.

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/4204544.stm

2. Showers likely to affect Oval Test:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/4205934.stm

Remember all England needs is a draw.

A couple of snippets to get us in the mood for the final Test starting on Thursday:

1. Richie Benaud will make his last commentary on UK TV after 42 years - he'll be sadly missed.
His voice will be sadly missed!

Remember all England needs is a draw.


If England do draw, do they still get the Ashes? If not then surely it doesn't matter unless they win! Cricket confuses me!

If England do draw, do they still get the Ashes? If not then surely it doesn't matter unless they win! Cricket confuses me!
A draw will mean that England win the series, for England are already 1-0 up.

A draw will mean that England win the series, for England are already 1-0 up.

In fact England are 2-1 up in this series, a draw at The Oval would mean that England win the series by that same margin, hence they would win the Ashes.

A win for Australia at The Oval would level the series at 2-2, this would mean that the 2005 series would be drawn. However, the Ashes (that is, the little urn with ashes inside it) remain in the possession of the country that last won an Ashes series outright, and that was Australia in 2002-2003 (by a fairly convincing margin of 4-1, it has to be said).

Hope that clears it up Criz!

However, the Ashes (that is, the little urn with ashes inside it) remain in the possession of the country that last won an Ashes series outright, and that was Australia in 2002-2003 (by a fairly convincing margin of 4-1, it has to be said).


I was always under the impression that the urn has nearly always remained in England...at the MCC, I should think - unless that'