How would you rate each year of the 00's?  I know we've seen topics about rating the whole decade, but I have yet to see a topic about rating each and every single year of the 00's.  So, how would you rate the various years of 2000-2006 (so far). 

Here are my ratings:

2000: 8/10 (this year's actually probably closer to a 7/10, but it's clouded by nostalgia for my childhood)
2001: 6/10
2002: 5/10
2003: 6/10
2004: 8/10
2005: 9/10 (though a lot of the good stuff actually started in late 2004, just didn't explode until 2005)
2006 (so far): 4/10

There are my ratings.  As you can see, I'd have to say the mid 00's are the best part of the 00's thus far, even if 2006 is shaping up to be pretty horrible.  What are your ratings?

Wow, you must be young.  Then again, I'm pretty young too (16).  :P

Anyway:

2000: 6/10 decent year
2001: 1/10 not quite a 0, but with 9/11 and whatnot it was pretty awful
2002: 5/10 it was very '00s
2003: 3/10 this is probably the most dislikeable year of the '00s, in the sense of how zeroes it is
2004: 9/10 I loved this year
2005: 7/10 Good year, but it sucked toward the end
first 1/4 of 2006: 2/10 We haven't had another disaster yet, so it's not all bad

2000: 9 out of 10
2001: 7 out of 10
2002: 6 out of 10 (the first half sucked, but the second half was ok)
2003: 7 out of 10 (the first half was ok, but the second half was sheeshty)
2004: 9 out of 10
2005: 8 out of 10
2006: so far 5 out of 10, (but I think it will drop to a 2 later this year)

wow...I honestly can't tell the difference betweeen each year.
how can you do this?
One day it became 2000. and now it's today.
2001? How should I know?

good for you for paying attention.  i really have no idea.

Meh.

2000... 8/10 a pretty decent year
2001... 6/10 an average year
2002... 8/10 an improvement to last year, reasonably decent
2003... 9/10 last year of high school. a pretty good year
2004... 8/10 fist year out of school. not a bad year
2005... 6/10 rather dull. but had it's perks
2006... 6/10 based on 1st quarter. will hopefully improve

Yeah... 2002-2004 would be the better years of this decade for me.

2000- 6/10- I was still young so i guess that affected this year alot
2001- 5/10- About the same
2002- 8/10- This year was great
2003- 2/10- This was probebly the worst year of my life
2004- 9/10- After 2003 was terrible 2004 definatly made up for it
2005- 7/10- decent year
2006- 6/10- Should get better

2000- 7/10- I was 12/13 and just starting to really pay attention to pop culture, I watched a lot of Who Wants to be A Millionaire, played dreamcast, surfed the Internet, got DSL for the first time later in the year. I also got my first cell phone with wireless web service, they all have it now but it was a pretty big deal in 2000. I burned my first CDs in 2000 as well and got my first digital camera. It was a big year on the technology side of things for me.
2001- 5/10- The year started off pretty well. I was growing older and became a lot more aware of things and the late '90s era was quickly fading away, the 2000s really got going. I started to listen to music pretty regularily. Then September 11th happened and the year took a turn for the worse.
2002- 8/10- Things slowly improved after the tragedy of 9/11 and it turned out to be a great year for me. School was going well. 2002 is a very memorable year in music for me, I have many favorite songs from 2002.
2003- 5/10- This is the year the mid '00s really began and was the first peak 2000s year. Not as good as 2002, but still alright.
2004- 7/10- Probably the most '00s year. Started to watch more TV, ABC dramas "Desperate Housewives" and "LOST" became some of my favorites. Musically it's not really my favorite year but it's alright.
2005- 8/10- A great year in music with the Gorillaz, Green Day, the Killers, Mariah Carey, Foo Fighters, Weezer, Kelly Clarkson, Rob Thomas topping the charts. A number of great TV shows make their debut.
2006- 5/10- Doesn't seem as good as '05 but we'll see.

2000 (7/10) - First half while in my freshman year was alright, but the second half while in my sophomore year sucked because I wasn't performing too well  and almost decided to switch majors. Also I will never forget the election of Gore vs. Bush.

2001 (6/10) - First year that I had to wear glasses, 9/11 and my first real job as a runner for Wendy's restaurants, but not a good year overall.

2002 (8/10) - My grades were much higher in my junior year than in my sophomore year and my music taste expanded a bit. I turned 21 this year and became a full fledged adult, a definite improvement over 2001.

2003 (7/10) - The year I graduated with my bachelor's degree with a good but not great GPA, I was admitted into graduate school but had no luck in finding a summer job matching my major which resulted in the most frustrating summer ever. Also this was the second year I lost 30 lbs (the first was 1997).

2004 (5/10) - Although I had luck finding a job this year and caught up with technology by buying a laptop and cell, this was probably the worst year for me personally since late 1995/early 1996 as I felt the pain of rejections of several interviews prior to the one I eventually got, fainted during an interview phone call,  accused of academic misconduct (although the case was dropped), and I didn't like the result of the election.

2005 (8/10) - A nice recovery from the year prior as I graduated with my master's degree with a good, but again not great GPA, developed a much broader music taste spanning the last fifty years and ended my internship on a positive note. I also traveled to Seattle, Mexico City and San Francisco, making this year my most traveled one.

2006 (7/10) - Kinda average start, found a full-time job and started working three weeks ago and so far going fine. What drags the first quarter of this year down for me is my IRS tax bill  :-\\, but hopefully the months after will get better.

Posted by: Donnie Darko  Posted on: March 26, 2006, 03:34:06 PM
Wow, you must be young.  Then again, I'm pretty young too (16).

I'm actually 16 years old too, soon to be 17.  I notice there actually are a lot of members of "Generation Y" (I hate that term, it has no imagination) here.  More than I thought there would be, at least.  Speaking of which, isn't Generation Y the dumbest generation name ever?  It's just made up by corporate executives with no imagination to describe their newest demographic.  Especially when one takes into account what future generations will be.  Generation AA?  Give me a break.

I'm actually 16 years old too, soon to be 17.  I notice there actually are a lot of members of "Generation Y" (I hate that term, it has no imagination) here.  More than I thought there would be, at least.  Speaking of which, isn't Generation Y the dumbest generation name ever?  It's just made up by corporate executives with no imagination to describe their newest demographic.  Especially when one takes into account what future generations will be.  Generation AA?  Give me a break.


Oh, you're actually (slightly) older than me.  I'm born 1990, you must be 1989.

I don't really have a problem with the Gen Y term, since we haven't yet proven to be hugely different from Gen X, plus you can play on the Y with "Yny" puns about emo and our generation's general whinyness.

Sonikuu what would you say Gen Y is?  I'd say 1981 to 1995, inclusive.

Posted by: Donnie Darko  Posted on: Today at 02:52:18 PM
Oh, you're actually (slightly) older than me.  I'm born 1990, you must be 1989.

I don't really have a problem with the Gen Y term, since we haven't yet proven to be hugely different from Gen X, plus you can play on the Y with "Yny" puns about emo and our generation's general whinyness.

Sonikuu what would you say Gen Y is?  I'd say 1981 to 1995, inclusive.

I'd have to say it really depends.  Certainly, there are many people who break the mold of their generation.  For example, a lot of kids at my school listen to Led Zeppelin, Bob Marley, Jimi Hendrix, and other such classic artists.  This isn't just a small group either, I know some members of the "cool crowd" who like Journey and Elton John, among others.  I myself am like a displaced member of Generation X as I love the 80's and 90's, yet still appreciate the 00's.

Also, I think generations in their current form are too large for their good.  What does a person born in 1982 have in common with someone born in 1992?  Not much, even though they're technically part of the same generation.

Overall though, I'd say Generation Y, going by tradition generation lengths, begins in 1980.  The late 90's were very much Generation Y, what with the last remnants of Generation X fading out.  1997 was the transition year.

As for where it ends, I can't say.  I think 9/11 is the defining point of Generation Y and that Generation Y ends at the point where people don't have clear memories about it, or just don't remember at all.  Unfortunately, people have different memories and that makes it pretty tricky to determine it's end. 

It's definitely ended though.  Some people think that Generation Y ended in the 00's.  Not true, it ended years beforehand.

I'd have to say it really depends.  Certainly, there are many people who break the mold of their generation.  For example, a lot of kids at my school listen to Led Zeppelin, Bob Marley, Jimi Hendrix, and other such classic artists.  This isn't just a small group either, I know some members of the "cool crowd" who like Journey and Elton John, among others.  I myself am like a displaced member of Generation X as I love the 80's and 90's, yet still appreciate the 00's.

Also, I think generations in their current form are too large for their good.  What does a person born in 1982 have in common with someone born in 1992?  Not much, even though they're technically part of the same generation.

Overall though, I'd say Generation Y, going by tradition generation lengths, begins in 1980.  The late 90's were very much Generation Y, what with the last remnants of Generation X fading out.  1997 was the transition year.

As for where it ends, I can't say.  I think 9/11 is the defining point of Generation Y and that Generation Y ends at the point where people don't have clear memories about it, or just don't remember at all.  Unfortunately, people have different memories and that makes it pretty tricky to determine it's end. 

It's definitely ended though.  Some people think that Generation Y ended in the 00's.  Not true, it ended years beforehand.


Yeah, kids born in the '00s are way too late to be Gen Y.  At very best, those born in 2000 and 2001 are YZ transitional.  People born from 1993 to 1997ish I think have freedom of choice on whether they're Y or Z; 1986-1992 is really the only period that's stuck with being Gen Y.

Yeah, kids born in the '00s are way too late to be Gen Y.  At very best, those born in 2000 and 2001 are YZ transitional.  People born from 1993 to 1997ish I think have freedom of choice on whether they're Y or Z; 1986-1992 is really the only period that's stuck with being Gen Y.


Maybe 1984 and 1985 are stuck with being late '90s Gen Y, too...I think we're an amorphous generation that blends in so easily with Gen X that we're hard to classify. I agree with 1993-1997 having a choice on being Y or Z and being in between, probably, though I think 1995+ will be a good deal more Z for the most part and probably will fit in as being Z.

Maybe 1984 and 1985 are stuck with being late '90s Gen Y, too...I think we're an amorphous generation that blends in so easily with Gen X that we're hard to classify. I agree with 1993-1997 having a choice on being Y or Z and being in between, probably, though I think 1995+ will be a good deal more Z for the most part and probably will fit in as being Z.


'84 and '85?  Yeah, I guess they are, they still have a nugget of genuine X in them though, whereas those born in the 1986-1992 bracket only resemble X in terms of their hobbies and likes (i.e. punk rock, skateboarding).

Yeah, kids born in the '00s are way too late to be Gen Y.  At very best, those born in 2000 and 2001 are YZ transitional.  People born from 1993 to 1997ish I think have freedom of choice on whether they're Y or Z; 1986-1992 is really the only period that's stuck with being Gen Y.


1984 and 1985 is gen y.

1984 and 1985 is gen y.


Yeah you're right.  No way Avril Lavigne is Gen X.

2000:9/10 Best year of the 00's personally, pop culturally meh...not so good.
2001:4/10 The first half of the year was an extension of '00 for me personally the second half of the year was pretty bad for me and then there was 9/11. Pop culturally, "Butterfly" by Crazy Town. Need I say more?
2002:8/10 This year was much better for me personally than late '01 pop culturally it was very 00's.
2003:7/10 This year is probably the least 00's year thus far. Even though I liked a pretty good bit of songs from '03 it was still a mediocre year pop culturally. But it was a great year for me so its gets a 7.
2004:8/10 Pop culturally it would get a 10 simply because its the most 00's year thus far but I knock off 2 points because there were some bad spots for me during the year.
2005:5/10 The most mediocire year of the 00's thus far. Got off to a great start both personally and pop cuturally but ended pretty bad on both accounts.

As far as the Gen Y/Z debate, I'm sticing to my guns. 1981-1997 is Gen Y. I know its a little long and I dont like it being that long but that's just the way I believe it shapes up in the end. The peak of Gen Y is 1984-1990. 1991-1993 is just a little off the peak and 1994-1997 is transitional.

As far as the Gen Y/Z debate, I'm sticing to my guns. 1981-1997 is Gen Y. I know its a little long and I dont like it being that long but that's just the way I believe it shapes up in the end. The peak of Gen Y is 1984-1990. 1991-1993 is just a little off the peak and 1994-1997 is transitional.

I agree with this^.

As far as the Gen Y/Z debate, I'm sticing to my guns. 1981-1997 is Gen Y. I know its a little long and I dont like it being that long but that's just the way I believe it shapes up in the end. The peak of Gen Y is 1984-1990. 1991-1993 is just a little off the peak and 1994-1997 is transitional.

I agree with this^.


Me too.

I agree with this^.


Me too.



Thanks guys. I just dont see 1997+ being Gen Y becuase they cant remember 9/11 all that well or at all. Also I forgot to say that 1981-1984 is still alot more Xish than 1984+ even though 1984-1990 have a slight X feel to them.

Thanks guys. I just dont see 1997+ being Gen Y becuase they cant remember 9/11 all that well or at all. Also I forgot to say that 1981-1984 is still alot more Xish than 1984+ even though 1984-1990 have a slight X feel to them.


I think all of Y (except maybe 1993/94ish onward) has an X element.  I agree about 1997 too, I think 9/11 is definitely a dividing point.  1999/Y2K may also be one.  2001 is the very latest I would end Gen Y, but culture would have to be amazingly slow-changing in the Tens for me to make such a decision.

Okay, I'll reiterate my reasons for sticking to my guns about 1995 being the dividing line.

-Somebody can remember an event without appreciating the full significance of it. Like it might have just amounted to a bad day for somebody born in 1996 and they have some memory of it, but not the full impact of it. Understanding the full impact of 9/11 is ESSENTIAL to Gen Y.
-Some 2010s teen graduating in 2015 will hate the '00s and late '90s, probably, and that time period is as Gen Y as you can get.
-Somebody born in 1996 would not remember any time before things were utterly digital.
-Experiencing is not always being a part of, necessarily. Lots of Gen Xers experienced the '70s, but were they part of it? No. A 1967er might've liked 1979 music at 12, but they graduated probably at the peak of the '80s and that influenced them more.
-Ain't boomer children.

2000: 6 (Pretty good)
2001: 6 (Pretty good)
2002: 5 (Okay)
2003: 7 (From an interesting news standpoint, it seemed endless)
2004: 4 (Other than the exciting election stuff, this was a really bland year, I thought)
2005: 5 (Nothing special, but not as dreary as '04)

I respect your opinion and your sticking to your guns, but I'll express my partial disagreement piece by piece:


-Somebody can remember an event without appreciating the full significance of it. Like it might have just amounted to a bad day for somebody born in 1996 and they have some memory of it, but not the full impact of it. Understanding the full impact of 9/11 is ESSENTIAL to Gen Y.


I think you just need to remember it at all; those who only barely remember it would be the youngest of the Gen Y camp, not in with those who can't remember it at all.


-Some 2010s teen graduating in 2015 will hate the '00s and late '90s, probably, and that time period is as Gen Y as you can get.


Yeah, but a lot of Gen Xers hated the '80s during the '90s.


-Somebody born in 1996 would not remember any time before things were utterly digital.


This is a good point, but if they can remember 1999 I think they can just barely squeeze in.


-Experiencing is not always being a part of, necessarily. Lots of Gen Xers experienced the '70s, but were they part of it? No. A 1967er might've liked 1979 music at 12, but they graduated probably at the peak of the '80s and that influenced them more.


Someone born in 1996 would be age 3-13 during the zeroes, and 13-23 during the tens.  This is a point for you.


-Ain't boomer children.


Some of them are.  Besides, it's not a Gen Y requirement, there are plenty of late '80s babies born to late '60s gen xers.

But a karma point to you :)

Okay, I'll reiterate my reasons for sticking to my guns about 1995 being the dividing line.

-Somebody can remember an event without appreciating the full significance of it. Like it might have just amounted to a bad day for somebody born in 1996 and they have some memory of it, but not the full impact of it. Understanding the full impact of 9/11 is ESSENTIAL to Gen Y.
-Some 2010s teen graduating in 2015 will hate the '00s and late '90s, probably, and that time period is as Gen Y as you can get.
-Somebody born in 1996 would not remember any time before things were utterly digital.
-Experiencing is not always being a part of, necessarily. Lots of Gen Xers experienced the '70s, but were they part of it? No. A 1967er might've liked 1979 music at 12, but they graduated probably at the peak of the '80s and that influenced them more.
-Ain't boomer children.


The problem is that we do not know exactly when Gen Y culture will end, there is no guarentee it just ends like like that in 2010s. I think it will depend on when Gen y culture really ends, if it ends around 2012 I think 1997 can fit in as the end of Gen Y being 15 by 2012. If it ends earlier than 2012 then 1997 being Gen Y is certainly debatable.

The problem is that we do not know exactly when Gen Y culture will end, there is no guarentee it just ends like like that in 2010s. I think it will depend on when Gen y culture really ends, if it ends around 2012 I think 1997 can fit in as the end of Gen Y being 15 by 2012. If it ends earlier than 2012 then 1997 being Gen Y is certainly debatable.


Exactly.  Plus in different countries and different communities the digital revolution may have been later.

I respect your opinion and your sticking to your guns, but I'll express my partial disagreement piece by piece:

I think you just need to remember it at all; those who only barely remember it would be the youngest of the Gen Y camp, not in with those who can't remember it at all.

Yeah, but a lot of Gen Xers hated the '80s during the '90s.

This is a good point, but if they can remember 1999 I think they can just barely squeeze in.

Someone born in 1996 would be age 3-13 during the zeroes, and 13-23 during the tens.  This is a point for you.

Some of them are.  Besides, it's not a Gen Y requirement, there are plenty of late '80s babies born to late '60s gen xers.

But a karma point to you :)



However, you can definitely remember something without having known what made it so significant. Like somebody born in 1966 remembers Watergate, but what does that mean to them? They were in kindergarten. The first world affairs I think I cared about were like in 3rd grade, with Kosovo and Monica Lewinsky (still didn't quite know what oral sex was, though.) And you've said many, many, many times that 1999 was pretty '00s in most functional, non-zeitgeist ways. And alot of Gen Yers hate the '00s during the '00s, but nobody's calling them Gen Z. I mean, a 1966er could barely squeeze in as remembering 1969, but no way are they a boomer.

Also, I think '10s culture would have to be particularly slow-moving for a 1997er to be at all Gen Y, and we both predicted a backlash. Even the '80s and early-mid '90s had some similarities that unifiied them as Gen X. And parenting styles are different for people say at 10 now than at ten even in 2002 (the whole ritalin backlash, etc.)

However, you can definitely remember something without having known what made it so significant. Like somebody born in 1966 remembers Watergate, but what does that mean to them? They were in kindergarten. The first world affairs I think I cared about were like in 3rd grade, with Kosovo and Monica Lewinsky (still didn't quite know what oral sex was, though.) And you've said many, many, many times that 1999 was pretty '00s in most functional, non-zeitgeist ways. And alot of Gen Yers hate the '00s during the '00s, but nobody's calling them Gen Z. I mean, a 1966er could barely squeeze in as remembering 1969, but no way are they a boomer.

Also, I think '10s culture would have to be particularly slow-moving for a 1997er to be at all Gen Y, and we both predicted a backlash. Even the '80s and early-mid '90s had some similarities that unifiied them as Gen X. And parenting styles are different for people say at 10 now than at ten even in 2002 (the whole ritalin backlash, etc.)


Yeah, I think 1996 or 1997 is the beginning of Gen Z. but it really depends on their consciousness, memory, siblings, etc.  For instance, if you had a family of a 1995er, a 1998er and a 2001er I would consider all of them Zers, based on what we can know in 2006.  On the other hand, if you had a 1989er, a 1993er and a 1996er in the same family I would probably consider them all Y, since the 1989er would clue them in on zeroes (and for the '93er, late nineties) culture and all of them would probably remember 9/11, plus I wouldn't say a 5 year old would be guaranteed to not care at all, it was a scary event. 

Now a 1997er is probably Z, they'd have to have an amazing memory to be more Yish, and even if so wouldn't really be analog/digital transitional at all like someone even 4 or 5 years younger than them.

Okay, I'll reiterate my reasons for sticking to my guns about 1995 being the dividing line.

-Somebody can remember an event without appreciating the full significance of it. Like it might have just amounted to a bad day for somebody born in 1996 and they have some memory of it, but not the full impact of it. Understanding the full impact of 9/11 is ESSENTIAL to Gen Y.
-Some 2010s teen graduating in 2015 will hate the '00s and late '90s, probably, and that time period is as Gen Y as you can get.
-Somebody born in 1996 would not remember any time before things were utterly digital.
-Experiencing is not always being a part of, necessarily. Lots of Gen Xers experienced the '70s, but were they part of it? No. A 1967er might've liked 1979 music at 12, but they graduated probably at the peak of the '80s and that influenced them more.
-Ain't boomer children.



I still think 1994-1997 is transitional, with 1997 being the first Z year. A 1996er is still more Y IMO. Also he would have been 5 on 9/11 and I think should remember it(as a refrence point I was 5 1/2 at the time of the first World Trade Center attack in 1993 and I remember it fairly well).

Once again, there are valid reasons for putting the start of Gen Z in 1995 but I just think that's too soon.

Yeah, I think 1996 or 1997 is the beginning of Gen Z. but it really depends on their consciousness, memory, siblings, etc.  For instance, if you had a family of a 1995er, a 1998er and a 2001er I would consider all of them Zers, based on what we can know in 2006.  On the other hand, if you had a 1989er, a 1993er and a 1996er in the same family I would probably consider them all Z, since the 1989er would clue them in on zeroes (and for the '93er, late nineties) culture and all of them would probably remember 9/11, plus I wouldn't say a 5 year old would be guaranteed to not care at all, it was a scary event. 

Now a 1997er is probably Z, they'd have to have an amazing memory to be more Yish, and even if so wouldn't really be analog/digital transitional at all like someone even 4 or 5 years younger than them.


Yeah, I agree that mid-'90s probably depends. But IMO, from the family distinctions, most people don't have little siblings born in 1996, the youngest is 1994 really for a "peak Yer", for the most part, the way demographic sets work. I think 1994 still strikes me as the end of Y, but 1995 and 1996 are transitional if mostly Z or early Z, and 1997 is the first substantially more Z year. Also, I think 1966ers were more defined by 1983ish culture than 1981ish culture when they were 15.

I still think 1994-1997 is transitional, with 1997 being the first Z year. A 1996er is still more Y IMO. Also he would have been 5 on 9/11 and I think should remember it(as a refrence point I was 5 1/2 at the time of the first World Trade Center attack in 1993 and I remember it fairly well).

Once again, there are valid reasons for putting the start of Gen Z in 1995 but I just think that's too soon.





Yeah, 1995 IMO is a little too soon, because then we only have 14 years of Gen Y, which isn't enough, and if you add the late '70s it's still not really a satisfying definition considering the late '80s are the absolute peak of the gen and that someone born in 1995 is only a few years younger than someone born in 1989 or 1990.


Yeah, I agree that mid-'90s probably depends. But IMO, from the family distinctions, most people don't have little siblings born in 1996, the youngest is 1994 really for a "peak Yer", for the most part, the way demographic sets work. I think 1994 still strikes me as the end of Y, but 1995 and 1996 are transitional if mostly Z or early Z, and 1997 is the first substantially more Z year. Also, I think 1966ers were more defined by 1983ish culture than 1981ish culture when they were 15.


Yeah, but the demographics are kind of pulled out of people's butts.  But you do have valid reasons to begin Z in 1995; again I don't disagree completely, I think 1995 is the earliest Z can begin, I'd just be more leaning to 1996 or 1997.

Yeah, but the demographics are kind of pulled out of people's butts.  But you do have valid reasons to begin Z in 1995; again I don't disagree completely, I think 1995 is the earliest Z can begin, I'd just be more leaning to 1996 or 1997.



Yeah, Gen Z could start in 1995 at the absolute earliest. I just think that a '95er would remember 1999, the year 2000, and 9/11 pretty good so that makes them very late Y IMO.

Yeah, Gen Z could start in 1995 at the absolute earliest. I just think that a '95er would remember 1999, the year 2000, and 9/11 pretty good so that makes them very late Y IMO.


Yeah, I agree.  Plus it's not really fair to have an absolute year, I don't think we'll ever be able to say, "okay, if you were born this year you're Gen Y, if you were born after you're Z".  It's a little more transitional than that, it's pretty sharp, but it's not razor thin.

Yeah, I agree.  Plus it's not really fair to have an absolute year, I don't think we'll ever be able to say, "okay, if you were born this year you're Gen Y, if you were born after you're Z".  It's a little more transitional than that, it's pretty sharp, but it's not razor thin.



I agree. I dont think 1995 is Z but its also not 100% Y either. It's part of the 1994-1997 transitional period.

Yeah, I agree. Z begins 1995-1997 with influence starting probably in 1993. My personal opinion is 1995, but we have to see how things are playing out in say 2011-2013 to know (maybe this board will still be around...) Things are pretty gray. Like there will probably be a pretty drastic change sometime 1995-1997. I'd say it goes like this. probably:

1985-97.5% Y, 2.5% X
1986-1990: 100% Y
1991-95% Y, 5% Z
1992-95% Y, 5% Z
1993-85% Y, 15% Z
1994-60% Y, 30% Z
1995-55-60% Z, 40-45% Y
1996-70% Z, 30% Y
1997-75% Z, 25% Y
1998-85% Z, 15% Y
1999-roughly 100% Z

Also, I think usually the "earliest" interpretation turns out to be the most liked one. Like, for example, Gen Xers like putting 1964 in their generation for alot of reasons and sometimes even 1963, but for years it was considered to begin in 1965. And alot of them don't even consider late '70s people to be X. X-Y had the longest transitional period, IMO, from like 1977-1983.

1985-97.5% Y, 2.5% X
1986-1990: 100% Y
1991-95% Y, 5% Z
1992-95% Y, 5% Z
1993-85% Y, 15% Z
1994-60% Y, 30% Z
1995-55-60% Z, 40-45% Y
1996-70% Z, 30% Y
1997-75% Z, 25% Y
1998-85% Z, 15% Y
1999-roughly 100% Z



I agree about not being 100% Z up until 1999. Even though 1997+ is defidently Z they still have a little Y in them.

Yeah, I agree. Z begins 1995-1997 with influence starting probably in 1993. My personal opinion is 1995, but we have to see how things are playing out in say 2011-2013 to know (maybe this board will still be around...) Things are pretty gray. Like there will probably be a pretty drastic change sometime 1995-1997. I'd say it goes like this. probably:

1985-97.5% Y, 2.5% X
1986-1990: 100% Y
1991-95% Y, 5% Z
1992-95% Y, 5% Z
1993-85% Y, 15% Z
1994-60% Y, 30% Z
1995-55-60% Z, 40-45% Y
1996-70% Z, 30% Y
1997-75% Z, 25% Y
1998-85% Z, 15% Y
1999-roughly 100% Z

Also, I think usually the "earliest" interpretation turns out to be the most liked one. Like, for example, Gen Xers like putting 1964 in their generation for alot of reasons and sometimes even 1963, but for years it was considered to begin in 1965. And alot of them don't even consider late '70s people to be X. X-Y had the longest transitional period, IMO, from like 1977-1983.


I don't think 1991 and 1992 are gen z at all.  I'd say 100% Y goes up to and includes 1992.  Other than that I agree, especially with the earliest view of a decade being correct.  I've seen some Gen Y definitions up to 2003, it doesn't go up that far, give me a break.  They could and sometimes are the children of people born in the early '80s.  2001 is the very latest I'd end Y at, and even that's a huge huge stretch.  I'm for having 1994, 1995, or 1996 as the last year of Y, and I think 1964-1993 is a mega-generation of 20th/21st transitionals.

Yeah, I agree. Z begins 1995-1997 with influence starting probably in 1993. My personal opinion is 1995, but we have to see how things are playing out in say 2011-2013 to know (maybe this board will still be around...) Things are pretty gray. Like there will probably be a pretty drastic change sometime 1995-1997. I'd say it goes like this. probably:

1985-97.5% Y, 2.5% X
1986-1990: 100% Y
1991-95% Y, 5% Z
1992-95% Y, 5% Z
1993-85% Y, 15% Z
1994-60% Y, 30% Z
1995-55-60% Z, 40-45% Y
1996-70% Z, 30% Y
1997-75% Z, 25% Y
1998-85% Z, 15% Y
1999-roughly 100% Z

Also, I think usually the "earliest" interpretation turns out to be the most liked one. Like, for example, Gen Xers like putting 1964 in their generation for alot of reasons and sometimes even 1963, but for years it was considered to begin in 1965. And alot of them don't even consider late '70s people to be X. X-Y had the longest transitional period, IMO, from like 1977-1983.


Why does it say 'leet' next to 'posts' on your profile?

I don't think 1991 and 1992 are gen z at all.  I'd say 100% Y goes up to and includes 1992.  Other than that I agree, especially with the earliest view of a decade being correct.  I've seen some Gen Y definitions up to 2003, it doesn't go up that far, give me a break.  They could and sometimes are the children of people born in the early '80s.  2001 is the very latest I'd end Y at, and even that's a huge huge stretch.  I'm for having 1994, 1995, or 1996 as the last year of Y, and I think 1964-1993 is a mega-generation of 20th/21st transitionals.


Yeah, I agree with this, 1994-1996 is the end of Y and the beginning of Z, though as a group mid-'90s people are probably transitional.