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Subject: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 80sfan on 09/11/08 at 7:52 pm

I have watched the Disney channel, Saturday Morning Cartoons, and other show and have found that there's something missing today in kid shows and the entertainment industry in general. The thing I have found that is missing is: Charisma! There's a lack of creativity and funness that shows had pre-2001. People either take themselves too seriously or they just do sloppy work on something. There's no more balance in anything anymore!

I grew up as a kid during the 90's and watched Fox Kids between 1994 and 1999 and there was just something magical (sorry if it sounds cheesy) about those shows. Today's cartoons, kids shows, and even the entertainment industry seem like they are trying too hard. When someone tries too hard to be cool, it becomes lame. Don't get me wrong I don't hate all of today's entertainment, I love about 25% of the music now, about 10% of the movies, and even only about 1% of today's television. As you can tell, I'm being sarcastic. I actually do hate alot of what we have for entertainment today.

I don't care if the business people are trying to make money out of us, because I know they really don't care about us, but at least put effort into it! Jesus, it's not like I care about them either! Sorry, I had to rant, that's one reason why I like this website, because you can share what you think with other people.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: iquestion on 09/11/08 at 8:33 pm

As times change I guess it is reflected in what 'some' deem as humor.

From the 20's-70's (early 80's), we had interesting characters in our society that were sometimes inspirations in cartoons of old.

Their were people with stutters or were slow moving, so writers would write a scene where someone was in a hurry and they were being slowed down from those characters. People would laugh at this situation protrayed as they remember when THEY were slowed up so it reflected and expanded the situation.

Now/today, if someone is slow in front of you, people would push them aside or tend to them out of the way of those who were ready and had themselves together.

The only fools I see in society now are Jerry Springer trash types and you seen one, you seen them all-but most of us have excluded people like that from our general circles and wouldn't relate with them anyway.

That's just a little of what I've observed..Hope it helped explain some of the reason? 

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: snozberries on 09/12/08 at 12:34 am


Have you ever seen

Danny Phantom?
As Told By Ginger?
and my new fav My Life as a Teenage Robot?

These are pretty good


I was going to add Weekenders and Recess but those were pre 2001

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: woops on 09/12/08 at 12:38 am

Amy Poehler's "The Mighty B!" and Jeff "Swampy" Marsh's  "Phineas & Ferb" are good

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Shacks Train on 09/14/08 at 8:53 am

Cartoons like everything else seem to go through the "nothing" phase!.If you look at WB cartoons in the early 70s storylines & animation was weak at best.....The New Tom & Jerry
Wacky Races  Most of Hanna Barbara  etc!
My guess is a contract fulfilment & lousy writers!!

If you look at early Disney stuff it seems like the adults made stuff they thought would be entertaining for children...Though visually stunning at the time it was all to "Beaver Cleaver"& made most yawn!

Its like a bunch of Harvard Psychology Professors got together to make cartoons !
Although , yes their animated , they lack "punch"!

But then again look at the movie industry ........They also lack drive & don't spark any interest!

The early Bugs Bunny stuff is concidered to be too violent by todays standards & parents seem to be tring to shield their kids from that kind of stuff...So their kids will grow up to be the next decades "Clock Tower Snipers"

What we take away from our kids ...they will find the missing voids.......Some may not know how to react to it........& remain lost in its interpretation

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: whistledog on 09/14/08 at 5:28 pm

Today's cartoons are about as entertaining as a fat guy crapping his pants.  The only cartoons of today I will watch are 'Family Guy' and 'The Simpsons' and even those I will watch only if there's nothing else on

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: woops on 09/14/08 at 8:29 pm

"Family Guy" was good dueing it's first three seasons, though the 4th had a few funny episodes. The fifth season was horrible.  8-P

"The Simpsons", haven't really watched it for a decade and several of the episodes I've seen from several years aren't as good.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Shacks Train on 09/15/08 at 4:30 pm

If it weren't for the "Adult Swim" type cartoons I wouldn't have anything to watch!
"Get ready to feel The Power of Attorney"

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Stompgal on 09/21/08 at 8:03 am

When I was a kid, I watched Cartoon Network programmes such as 'The Powerpuff Girls,' 'Johnny Bravo' and 'Dexter's Laboratory.' I found them generally entertaining. Now Cartoon Network has gone downhill as it hardly ever shows these programmes anymore. Its schedule now consists of programmes that aren't as great such as 'Ben 10' and 'Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends.' I can even remember when Cartoon Network showed classics such as 'The Flintstones,' 'Looney Tunes' and 'Tom and Jerry.'

My parents had Sky Digital for a year and during that time, I watched shows on free-to-air children's channels (CBBC, CBeebies, CITV, Pop, Pop Girl and Tiny Pop). Most of the shows I saw on those channels were decent, but now that my parents have resubscribed to Virgin Media, I can't watch the shows on Pop, Pop Girl and Tiny Pop anymore. I was lucky enough to watch other children's shows on the On Demand service.

Earlier this year, I found out that in the UK, 99% of new children's programmes are imported. I like both British and imported TV shows, but I wish more of them were made in the UK. Some US-made kids' TV shows such as 'Pinky Dinky Doo' and 'The Mr Men Show' have been re-dubbed with British voices.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: MrCleveland on 09/22/08 at 2:21 pm


I have watched the Disney channel, Saturday Morning Cartoons, and other show and have found that there's something missing today in kid shows and the entertainment industry in general. The thing I have found that is missing is: Charisma! There's a lack of creativity and funness that shows had pre-2001. People either take themselves too seriously or they just do sloppy work on something. There's no more balance in anything anymore!

I grew up as a kid during the 90's and watched Fox Kids between 1994 and 1999 and there was just something magical (sorry if it sounds cheesy) about those shows. Today's cartoons, kids shows, and even the entertainment industry seem like they are trying too hard. When someone tries too hard to be cool, it becomes lame. Don't get me wrong I don't hate all of today's entertainment, I love about 25% of the music now, about 10% of the movies, and even only about 1% of today's television. As you can tell, I'm being sarcastic. I actually do hate alot of what we have for entertainment today.

I don't care if the business people are trying to make money out of us, because I know they really don't care about us, but at least put effort into it! Jesus, it's not like I care about them either! Sorry, I had to rant, that's one reason why I like this website, because you can share what you think with other people.



That and longevity.

"Garfield and Friends" was on for 7 years, now many cartoons last for a year.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: EthanM on 09/22/08 at 2:55 pm

Garfield & friends, animaniacs, and several other cartoon from the late 80s/early 90s were brilliantly written shows that could be appreciated on one level by younger kids and another level by older kids and adults. I haven't seen any saturday morning cartoons for over a decade, but from what I've gathered nowadays they're very lazily written and mostly just shoved on the air to raise awareness for an already popular product as opposed to the old model of selling merchandise thanks to the quality of a show. Quality cartoons are much easier to find on the internet (homestarrunner, youtube clips of old shows) than on TV right now.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 09/23/08 at 6:25 pm


Today's cartoons are about as entertaining as a fat guy crapping his pants.  The only cartoons of today I will watch are 'Family Guy' and 'The Simpsons' and even those I will watch only if there's nothing else on

It's only because 30 or 40 years ago, a fat guy crapping his pants couldn't get past the network censors.

Peter Griffin laugh: Heh-heh-heh-heh!

I still love "Family Guy."  I think it's because when was a toddler, I regarded my folks about the same way as Stewie Griffin regards his folks...I just didn't have the vocab!  I also used to hassle the dog until the dog hassled me back!

Actually, my role in family dynamics nowadays is very much like Brian the Dog!

:P

There used to be "superhero" cartoons when I was growing up; however, I don't think you could market an irony-free superhero to anybody over the age of seven nowadays.  For better and certainly for worse, kids, teens, and adults alike are much more jaded in 2008 than anybody was in 1968!

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: woops on 09/24/08 at 5:49 pm

As for longevity, I'm suprised "Fairy Oddparents" and a certain sea sponge are still on the air.

Ironically, I didn't know "Garfield" lasted til 1994 until recently. Then again, I was into some toy infomercials...

The cartoon still holds up to this day.  8)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Stompgal on 10/10/08 at 5:45 am

I find the CBeebies cartoon 'Charlie and Lola' charismatic because I like the animation techniques that are used and they inspired me to create some digital works of art.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2kidsami on 10/10/08 at 7:41 am

Saturday Morning Cartoons - what Saturday morning Cartoons????????  There are hardly any cartoons on saturday anymore (and trust me I know, I have a 5 & 6 year old).  I remember waking up at the crack of dawn on Saturdays so I did not miss any (Johnny Quest was on at 7:00 I believe) Then Bugs Bunny and Friends (the insanely long mass of cartoons ; was it 1 or 2 hours long - wonderful the whole way), The Smurfs, Scooby Scaries, Schmoo and Captain Caveman, the Incredible Hulk, Spiderman and Friends (Iceman, and Fire?????), Then the Wonder Friends (with Captain America, Wonderwoman, The Wonder Twins, The stretchy dude, and etc...) and at some point Shazaam was on (not a cartoon, I know, but a show I liked to watch)..  If I got up earlier, the old cartoons where on (Woody Wood Pecker, and etc...) I remember Saturday morning Cartoons meant all of Saturday morning.  There was variety and characters, I know they are trying to get kids to watch less TV and play more - So lets take off the cartoons that are on all the time, and then make a Saturday morning veg out - that I am sure my mom was thankful for and all parents need.  I miss Saturday morning cartoons - Turn on a local network, you now have the Today Show or Good Morning America, Animal Rescuers and The Disney Channel Hour with some of their cartoons and Hannah Montana and the Suite Life.... Not much cartoon, and you are right not much character.... Does anyone else remember the Saturday morning Marathon of Cartoons, honestly I never slept in on Saturdays because I was way to worried about missing something.  Johnny Quest was my favorite, and I wish the reruns of that show would play somewhere............................

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: slotscott on 10/10/08 at 4:44 pm

Although nothing will ever compare to the cartoons of yesteryear especially between 1970 - 1985. There are a few great cartoons in the present worth mentioning like "The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy". This show is always worth watching.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: snozberries on 10/10/08 at 11:22 pm


Saturday Morning Cartoons - what Saturday morning Cartoons????????  There are hardly any cartoons on saturday anymore (and trust me I know, I have a 5 & 6 year old).  I remember waking up at the crack of dawn on Saturdays so I did not miss any (Johnny Quest was on at 7:00 I believe) Then Bugs Bunny and Friends (the insanely long mass of cartoons ; was it 1 or 2 hours long - wonderful the whole way), The Smurfs, Scooby Scaries, Schmoo and Captain Caveman, the Incredible Hulk, Spiderman and Friends (Iceman, and Fire?????), Then the Wonder Friends (with Captain America, Wonderwoman, The Wonder Twins, The stretchy dude, and etc...) and at some point Shazaam was on (not a cartoon, I know, but a show I liked to watch)..  If I got up earlier, the old cartoons where on (Woody Wood Pecker, and etc...) I remember Saturday morning Cartoons meant all of Saturday morning.  There was variety and characters, I know they are trying to get kids to watch less TV and play more - So lets take off the cartoons that are on all the time, and then make a Saturday morning veg out - that I am sure my mom was thankful for and all parents need.   I miss Saturday morning cartoons - Turn on a local network, you now have the Today Show or Good Morning America, Animal Rescuers and The Disney Channel Hour with some of their cartoons and Hannah Montana and the Suite Life.... Not much cartoon, and you are right not much character.... Does anyone else remember the Saturday morning Marathon of Cartoons, honestly I never slept in on Saturdays because I was way to worried about missing something.  Johnny Quest was my favorite, and I wish the reruns of that show would play somewhere............................


of course we had what 6 channels to watch growing up?

at least your kids have nick, nick toons, disney, toon disney and cartoon network... oh and noggin and a some kids channels they offer on Directv (if you have that)  so as much as I loved the sat morning experience I would've loved maybe even preferred having all those channels to choose from.


cartoon network used to do boomerang programming...they may still have it and it would be all cartoons of a certain year.
occasionally you'd get a little speed buggy, charlie chan, funky phantom etc 

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: sonikuu on 10/11/08 at 5:20 am

Personally, I'd like to think that animation will improve in the next decade.  Animation right now in America is going through a low period that occurs once very few decades.  The last time animation went though a low period was in the 70s, when Hanna Barbera possessed such a large market share that quality declined as a result.  I've read testimonies from people working at Hanna Barbera during the 70s that many of the shows they came up with were just plain bad.  Of course, the dozens of bad shows have since become forgotten with the few good ones being remembered fondly, which is what always happens.

I know I'll get some complaints from people who have nostalgia for 70s cartoons, but the period honestly wasn't the best for cartoons.  Watch Scooby Doo and Yogi Bear today and you realize just how repetitive they really are.  The true test of greatness, in my opinion, is when someone who doesn't have nostalgia for it can enjoy it.  I've enjoyed some 80s and 90s cartoons that I never saw as a kid (thus resulting in no nostalgia clouding my judgment), which is a testament to the greatness of those shows.  By way of comparison, I've seen some 70s cartoons that I've never seen as a kid and they're not that great at all.

I think the animation market has a chance to go back up in the next decade.  Of course, for that to happen, we will have to get over the current musical trend that seems to be dominating kids tv, particularly on the Disney Channel.  Regardless of whether the quality of today's cartoons are up to par with those of yesterday, there is no doubt that the animation market is in decline in terms of popularity.  See: demise of Saturday morning cartoons, Cartoon Network showing live action shows, and Disney Channel getting rid of Toon Disney.  I better record those 3:00 AM reruns of Gargoyles and The Tick while I still can!

Some good cartoons that have come out this decade.  Yes, there were good shows:
- Avatar: honestly a great show with action, a great plot that puts some adult fair to shame, and a strict continuity where each episode affects the next.  Has many of the same traits that made Gargoyles awesome (which, by the way, is one of those 90s shows that I didn't see much at the time, but enjoyed greatly upon seeing it later), although its not quite as good.
- Megas XLR: cancelled Cartoon Network show that was full of spoofs of various anime and video games.  This resulted in it being a cult hit, but not a mainstream smash.  Speaking of Cartoon Network...
- Almost anything that aired on Cartoon Network from 2000-2004: Toonami was a beacon of quality animation, mostly anime, for America and Adult Swim had a great mixture of funny cartoons and intense anime.  Great shows like Samurai Jack also kicked ass.  Cartoon Network was the last kids network to decline and the process is still tragically continuing, with the death of Toonami and the "stonerization" of Adult Swim's "comedy".
- Invader Zim - cancelled show from 2001 on Nick.  Great show, but watch out.  Its fanbase is terrible and mostly made of geeky goths and emo kids.  The show itself is good though.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Dude111 on 10/25/08 at 10:49 pm

Todays cartoons ARE ABSOLUTE GARBAGE

The 70s,80s had MUCH BETTER TV SHOWS!! :)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: LyricBoy on 10/26/08 at 6:49 am

Used to be you could tune in on saturday morning and watch kids shows like "Land of the Lost", "Big John, Little John", and "Mighty Isis" to name a few.  And then the 2-hour Warner Brothers/Bugs Bunny show.  Awesome stuff.

Then that sort of entertainment morphed into "Saved by the Bell" and "Hang Time", seemingly designed for the more sophisticated kids.  SBTB was pretty good, but maybe that's because of cast members like Elizabeth Berkeley in her pre-skank days.

But now it is almost all garbage.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Dude111 on 10/26/08 at 7:42 pm

Oh yes,i loved saturday mornings!!!

Sad :(

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 10/27/08 at 12:14 am


Used to be you could tune in on saturday morning and watch kids shows like "Land of the Lost", "Big John, Little John", and "Mighty Isis" to name a few.  And then the 2-hour Warner Brothers/Bugs Bunny show.  Awesome stuff.

Then that sort of entertainment morphed into "Saved by the Bell" and "Hang Time", seemingly designed for the more sophisticated kids.  SBTB was pretty good, but maybe that's because of cast members like Elizabeth Berkeley in her pre-skank days.

But now it is almost all garbage.


Didn't they used to show "Mighty Isis" in tandem with "Shazzam!"
???

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: snozberries on 11/30/08 at 12:22 pm


Didn't they used to show "Mighty Isis" in tandem with "Shazzam!"
???


yes they did

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: woops on 11/30/08 at 1:14 pm

"The Mighty B!" probably has to be the best cartoon of 2008 and much better than the recent seasons of "Family Guy"

The  Thanksgiving episode was classic  ;D 8)

The worst: "Total Drama Island" since it's no different than it's live action "reality show" counterparts  8-P

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JamieMcBain on 11/30/08 at 10:44 pm

The Mighty B, 6teen and My Gym Partner Is A Monkey are my favorite cartoons, right now.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: asdf on 12/01/08 at 3:05 pm

This is a sign that you people should stop watching mindless television.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: whistledog on 12/01/08 at 3:07 pm


This is a sign that you people should stop watching mindless television.


Then what should we watch?

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Step-chan on 12/04/08 at 8:18 pm


Although nothing will ever compare to the cartoons of yesteryear especially between 1970 - 1985. There are a few great cartoons in the present worth mentioning like "The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy". This show is always worth watching.





I've seen only alittle of The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy, but what I seen was pretty good.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/14/16 at 3:49 pm

I honestly feel like the 2000s had better cartoons than this decade. Hell, sh*t like Chalkzone, My Life as a Teenage Robot, The Mighty B, Flapjack, Chowder, and Making Fiends were like legends compared to vulgar cartoons like Breadwinners, Sanjay and Craig, Camp Lakebottom, Pig Goat Banana Cricket, Pickle and Peanut, etc. It never really stops on how they need modern pop cultural references to keep the shows up and running. You could say that some cartoons like We Bare Bears, Steven Universe, and Star vs. The Force of Evil are good, but I don't think they're great compared to the 2000s. Just saying.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 02/14/16 at 4:59 pm

When Millennium Mansion was talking about how cartoons declined, he was probably talking about 2006-2009, I'm guessing. 06-09 was, imo, fúking terrible.

2000-2005 was completely different in every way. Quality shows like Samurai Jack, Megas XLR, Star Wars: Clone Wars, Clone High, seasons 1-3 of Family Guy, Fillmore, Courage the Cowardly Dog, etc. in addition to prominent re-runs of 90s shows like Ren & Stimpy, Hey Arnold, Rugrats, and Rocko's Modern life.

Truly, 00-05 was a perfect balance of golden oldies and fresh new material.

Do you stand by what you said, @Millenium Mansion 07?

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/14/16 at 5:30 pm


When Millennium Mansion was talking about how cartoons declined, he was probably talking about 2006-2009, I'm guessing. 06-09 was, imo, fúking terrible.

2000-2005 was completely different in every way. Quality shows like Samurai Jack, Megas XLR, Star Wars: Clone Wars, Clone High, seasons 1-3 of Family Guy, Fillmore, Courage the Cowardly Dog, etc. in addition to prominent re-runs of 90s shows like Ren & Stimpy, Hey Arnold, Rugrats, and Rocko's Modern life.

Truly, 00-05 was a perfect balance of golden oldies and fresh new material.

Do you stand by what you said, @Millenium Mansion 07?


His original post was from October of 2008. He probably changed his mind and quit watching cartoons by then.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/14/16 at 7:31 pm

When it comes to cartoons the 2010s is one of the best decades to me. The 1990s and 2000s are equal in terms of quality to me. The 1970s -1980s were terrible. 1950s-1960s was alright. And the 1930s-1940s were legendary. This is coming from someone who doesn't even have nostalgia for half of the shows that I watch or talk about. Usually people tend to just be biased where they have tons of praise for cartoons they grew up with and hate cartoons they didn't grow up with. Happens all the time. I didn't grow up in the 2010s as a kid, but I still think it's one of the best decades for cartoons.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/14/16 at 7:35 pm


When it comes to cartoons the 2010s is one of the best decades to me. The 1990s and 2000s are equal in terms of quality to me. The 1970s -1980s were terrible. 1950s-1960s was alright. And the 1930s-1940s were legendary. This is coming from someone who doesn't even have nostalgia for half of the shows that I watch or talk about. Usually people tend to just be biased where they have tons of praise for cartoons they grew up with and hate cartoons they didn't grow up with. Happens all the time. I didn't grow up in the 2010s as a kid, but I still think it's one of the best decades for cartoons.


What kind of cartoons do you like from the 2010s?

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/14/16 at 7:38 pm


When it comes to cartoons the 2010s is one of the best decades to me. The 1990s and 2000s are equal in terms of quality to me. The 1970s -1980s were terrible. 1950s-1960s was alright. And the 1930s-1940s were legendary. This is coming from someone who doesn't even have nostalgia for half of the shows that I watch or talk about. Usually people tend to just be biased where they have tons of praise for cartoons they grew up with and hate cartoons they didn't grow up with. Happens all the time. I didn't grow up in the 2010s as a kid, but I still think it's one of the best decades for cartoons.


I love the 2010s for cartoons as well, not that I'm a huge cartoon follower. I really love Gravity Falls and Phineas & Ferb.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 02/14/16 at 7:39 pm


When it comes to cartoons the 2010s is one of the best decades to me. The 1990s and 2000s are equal in terms of quality to me.

Do you agree or disagree with the opinion that 2006-2009 sucked?

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/14/16 at 7:41 pm


What kind of cartoons do you like from the 2010s?

From the 2010s?

Steven Universe
Mickey Mouse (that 2013 version)
Rick and Morty
Legend of Korra
Young Justice
Amazing World of Gumball
Star vs Forces of Evil
Gravity Falls
Wander over Yonder
Adventure Time
Over The Garden Wall
Looney Tunes Show
Scooby Doo Myserty inc.
Regular Show
We Bare Bears
Star Wars Rebels

These are the shows I usually watch nowadays. All have had good reception and ratings from the public last time I checked. This decade isn't over yet, but I assume by the end of 2019 this list would be bigger.


I love the 2010s for cartoons as well, not that I'm a huge cartoon follower. I really love Gravity Falls and Phineas & Ferb.


Same. Phineas and Ferb is late 2000s, but I did run for over half of the 2010s. So it's safe to put it into both 00's & 10's category.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/14/16 at 7:47 pm


Do you agree or disagree with the opinion that 2006-2009 sucked?


Eh, they were hit and miss. Only shows I remember liking from 06-09 was Chowder ,Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack, and Phineas & Ferb. When it comes to 00-05 I like..

House of Mouse
As told by Ginger
Pelswick
Danny Phantom
Cat Scratch
Avatar Last Airbender
Kim Possible
Filmore!
Kids Next Door
Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy
Whatever Happened to Robot Jones
Duck Dodgers
Chalkzone
Invader Zim
My Life as a Teenager Robot
Evil Con Carne
Justice League
Justice League Unlimited
Teen Titans
Static Shock
Buzz Light Year of Star Command
Proud Family
The Weekenders
Fairly Odd Parents
My Life as a Teenage Robot
Sheep in the Big City
Samurai Jack
Jackie Chan Adventures
Lloyd in Space
Xiaolin Showdown

And a few others that I can't remember from the top of my head. Oh snap for the 2000s I like over 30+ cartoons.  :o Didn't think it would be that much. Usually for any decade that isn't the 1930s or 1940s I usually like around 12-15 cartoons.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/14/16 at 7:57 pm


Eh, they were hit and miss. Only shows I remember liking from 06-09 was Chowder and Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack. When it comes to 00-05 I like..

House of Mouse
As told by Ginger
Pelswick
Danny Phantom
Cat Scratch
Avatar Last Airbender
Kim Possible
Filmore!
Kids Next Door
Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy
Whatever Happened to Robot Jones
Duck Dodgers
Chalkzone
Invader Zim
My Life as a Teenager Robot
Evil Con Carne
Justice League
Justice League Unlimited
Teen Titans
Static Shock
Buzz Light Year of Star Command
Proud Family
The Weekenders
Fairly Odd Parents
My Life as a Teenage Robot
Sheep in the Big City
Samurai Jack
Jackie Chan Adventures
Lloyd in Space
Xiaolin Showdown

And a few others that I can't remember from the top of my head. Oh snap for the 2000s I like over 30+ cartoons.  :o Didn't think it would be that much. Usually for any decade that isn't the 1930s or 1940s I usually like around 12-15 cartoons.


Wow, that's a lot of cartoons. So I guess you like a lot of them, don't you?

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/14/16 at 8:00 pm


Wow, that's a lot of cartoons. So I guess you like a lot of them, don't you?


Heck yeah!  8) 2000s to me were pretty good when it came to cartoons. Even went out of my way to purchase DVDs of old series from the 2000s.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: SpyroKev on 02/15/16 at 9:12 am

Its interesting how the quality of cartoons and video games declined exactly around the same time. In my perspective, the golden age of cartoons really started in 1990. I just can't vibe to cartoons before the 80s, aside from Looney Tunes and Tom & Jerry.

I agree that the golden age finale of cartoons definitely finished in 2005. The plot of Codename Kids Next Door destroys anything today.



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Written By: mqg96 on 02/15/16 at 9:36 am


Its interesting how the quality of cartoons and video games declined exactly around the same time. In my perspective, the golden age of cartoons really started in 1990. I just can't vibe to cartoons before the 80s, aside from Looney Tunes and Tom & Jerry.

I agree that the golden age finale of cartoons definitely finished in 2005. The plot of Codename Kids Next Door destroys anything today.


Funny you mention this. Codename: KND is the first Cartoon Network I can clearly remember being excited to witness the premiere brand new when I was little. It's one of my top CN shows of all time. I agree with many other posters that the 1st half of the 2000's was a great time for cartoons, but the 2nd half not so much. In other words. 2000-2004 had some really good hits, 2005 was the transitional year, and 2006-2009 was mediocre with a few exceptions.

However, the 90's had just as many mediocre cartoons as the 2000's decade. The problem is that a lot of people tend to only focus on the positive about the 90's cartoons and forget about the negative ones, while when it comes to 2000's cartoons people only focus on the negative and forget the positive that it offered. It's not a fact that the 90's was a better decade for cartoons than the 2000's, it's an opinion. If the show had the majority of its in the 2000's, then it's a 2000's cartoon in my book, whether it's core 2000's or millennial.

If you ask me. I think the 2010's for cartoons has been the best era we've had in modern times, except for the action part of it.

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Written By: Howard on 02/15/16 at 2:43 pm

I agree that the golden age finale of cartoons definitely finished in 2005. The plot of Codename Kids Next Door destroys anything today.


Why did it end?

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/15/16 at 3:51 pm


Funny you mention this. Codename: KND is the first Cartoon Network I can clearly remember being excited to witness the premiere brand new when I was little. It's one of my top CN shows of all time. I agree with many other posters that the 1st half of the 2000's was a great time for cartoons, but the 2nd half not so much. In other words. 2000-2004 had some really good hits, 2005 was the transitional year, and 2006-2009 was mediocre with a few exceptions.

However, the 90's had just as many mediocre cartoons as the 2000's decade. The problem is that a lot of people tend to only focus on the positive about the 90's cartoons and forget about the negative ones, while when it comes to 2000's cartoons people only focus on the negative and forget the positive that it offered. It's not a fact that the 90's was a better decade for cartoons than the 2000's, it's an opinion. If the show had the majority of its in the 2000's, then it's a 2000's cartoon in my book, whether it's core 2000's or millennial.

If you ask me. I think the 2010's for cartoons has been the best era we've had in modern times, except for the action part of it.


I may not be a cartoon fanatic, but does it really matter that a certain decade has wonderful cartoons? I mean, the early 2010s pretty much killed off everything I knew about children's networks (e.g. Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, etc.) in my opinion. Thanks to Stuart Snyder and Cyma Zarghini's bullsh*t they did on Nick and CN, I don't really think the 2010s are great. If I wanted to watch something that has fantastic drama and acting, then I'll go watch something on FX, HBO, or ShowTime. I'm just really sorry, but I don't feel like this decade is good as the 90s or 2000s cartoon-wise.

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Written By: Howard on 02/15/16 at 4:05 pm

Did the 80's cartoons have charisma? ???

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Written By: mqg96 on 02/15/16 at 4:36 pm


I may not be a cartoon fanatic, but does it really matter that a certain decade has wonderful cartoons? I mean, the early 2010s pretty much killed off everything I knew about children's networks (e.g. Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, etc.) in my opinion. Thanks to Stuart Snyder and Cyma Zarghini's bullsh*t they did on Nick and CN, I don't really think the 2010s are great. If I wanted to watch something that has fantastic drama and acting, then I'll go watch something on FX, HBO, or ShowTime. I'm just really sorry, but I don't feel like this decade is good as the 90s or 2000s cartoon-wise.


The state of how good or bad a kids channel becomes in someone's opinion is completely irrelevant to the quality of cartoons. Looney Tunes is one of the all time great cartoons, but CN would be foolish to marathon reruns of it all day long and have no creativity on the channel. Did CN Real airing have anything to do with cartoons or the state of the channel?

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/15/16 at 7:39 pm


The state of how good or bad a kids channel becomes in someone's opinion is completely irrelevant to the quality of cartoons. Looney Tunes is one of the all time great cartoons, but CN would be foolish to marathon reruns of it all day long and have no creativity on the channel. Did CN Real airing have anything to do with cartoons or the state of the channel?


But the variety for both channels aren't even that good. It's obvious that Nickelodeon would air Spongebob about eight times a day, while airing other provocative sitcoms/cartoons that have the same toilet humor over and over again. For Cartoon Network, I can get that they're doing alright, but most of their mature cartoons are aimed at children. Also, didn't you say that CN Real affected the state of the channel during the late 00s/early 10s?

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Written By: mqg96 on 02/15/16 at 8:24 pm


But the variety for both channels aren't even that good. It's obvious that Nickelodeon would air Spongebob about eight times a day, while airing other provocative sitcoms/cartoons that have the same toilet humor over and over again. For Cartoon Network, I can get that they're doing alright, but most of their mature cartoons are aimed at children. Also, didn't you say that CN Real affected the state of the channel during the late 00s/early 10s?


Again, I'm not talking about variety on networks, I'm just referring to the cartoons itself. Yes I did say many times that CN Real affected the state of the channel, but my point is that this topic isn't about the state of kid channels. It's about the quality of the cartoons only. Yes, I agree that many channels' variety hasn't been good lately, and the afford put into the bumpers and promos aren't good anymore, including the lack of creative blocks. However, when just focusing on the cartoons of the 2010's decade period regardless of where it's airing, this decade has definitely been really good with the exception of the action cartoons. 

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Written By: 2001 on 02/15/16 at 8:39 pm


Its interesting how the quality of cartoons and video games declined exactly around the same time. In my perspective, the golden age of cartoons really started in 1990. I just can't vibe to cartoons before the 80s, aside from Looney Tunes and Tom & Jerry.

I agree that the golden age finale of cartoons definitely finished in 2005. The plot of Codename Kids Next Door destroys anything today.


Naw, Phineas & Ferb and Gravity Falls are really good, and better than KND ("oh my god you just did not!") in my opinion. I've enjoyed every episode I've watched of those. I don't really get to watch them very often though.

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/15/16 at 8:44 pm


Again, I'm not talking about variety on networks, I'm just referring to the cartoons itself. Yes I did say many times that CN Real affected the state of the channel, but my point is that this topic isn't about the state of kid channels. It's about the quality of the cartoons only. Yes, I agree that many channels' variety hasn't been good lately, and the afford put into the bumpers and promos aren't good anymore, including the lack of creative blocks. However, when just focusing on the cartoons of the 2010's decade period regardless of where it's airing, this decade has definitely been really good with the exception of the action cartoons.


I can get that most 2010s cartoons are worth great, but I just can't agree with this. I simply feel old, considering that I watched 2000s cartoons as a child, and I feel like they give me much more happiness than 2010s cartoons. Also, I think most cartoons from this decade are overrated.

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/15/16 at 8:46 pm


Naw, Phineas & Ferb and Gravity Falls are really good, and better than KND ("oh my god you just did not!") in my opinion. I've enjoyed every episode I've watched of those. I don't really get to watch them very often though.


To be fair, maybe Spyro never watched any cartoon from the post-2005 era. Same with how I barely watch cartoons from the 2010s. He doesn't really think they're good compared to the 90s/early 2000s.

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Written By: 2001 on 02/15/16 at 8:57 pm


To be fair, maybe Spyro never watched any cartoon from the post-2005 era. Same with how I barely watch cartoons from the 2010s. He doesn't really think they're good compared to the 2000s.


You guys should. There's some real good stuff. As Toon said it's a great decade for cartoons.

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/15/16 at 9:08 pm


You guys should. There's some real good stuff. As Toon said it's a great decade for cartoons.


I don't think watching Regular Show, Adventure Time, We Bare Bears, Gravity Falls (which is gonna end soon), Star vs. the Force of Evil, Pickle and Peanut, a bunch of sh*tty Nickelodeon shows, Star Wars Rebels, Steven Universe, and Camp Lakebottom to name some examples aren't that good IMO. I'm not a big cartoon fanatic as I was back when I was a kid. They just have the same adventurous styles, comedy, and random bullsh*t they keep putting on. It's not that special to me.

Compare that to MLAATR, Avatar: The Last Airbender, Teen Titans (even though I didn't watch the show when I was a kid), Foster's, etc. and I could just be amused with them. Maybe it's for the fact that I was more happy during the 2000s compared to this decade. I just don't know.

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Written By: Howard on 02/16/16 at 2:48 pm


Again, I'm not talking about variety on networks, I'm just referring to the cartoons itself. Yes I did say many times that CN Real affected the state of the channel, but my point is that this topic isn't about the state of kid channels. It's about the quality of the cartoons only. Yes, I agree that many channels' variety hasn't been good lately, and the afford put into the bumpers and promos aren't good anymore, including the lack of creative blocks. However, when just focusing on the cartoons of the 2010's decade period regardless of where it's airing, this decade has definitely been really good with the exception of the action cartoons.


Back in the 80's cartoons were much better.

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Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/16/16 at 2:56 pm


Back in the 80's cartoons were much better.


We grew up with some of the best cartoons.

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Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/16/16 at 3:44 pm


Back in the 80's cartoons were much better.

It's all pretty subjective to what we grew up on. ;D ;D ;D

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Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/16/16 at 3:45 pm


We grew up with some of the best cartoons.

90s and early-mid 00s cartoons are still my personal favorites. :D

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/16/16 at 4:06 pm


It's all pretty subjective to what we grew up on. ;D ;D ;D


Yeah, it's true because I find 2000s cartoons to be really entertaining to me.

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Written By: Howard on 02/16/16 at 4:07 pm


We grew up with some of the best cartoons.


back in the days when you can sit by the TV on Saturday mornings and eat Capt Crunch.

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Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/16/16 at 4:14 pm


back in the days when you can sit by the TV on Saturday mornings and eat Capt Crunch.

I was more of a Fruit Loops, Apple Jacks, Frutti Pebble,Honey Nut Cheerios, and cinnamon toast crunch kid growing up. ;)

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Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/16/16 at 7:45 pm


90s and early-mid 00s cartoons are still my personal favorites. :D


Those cartoon, too, rule!


back in the days when you can sit by the TV on Saturday mornings and eat Capt Crunch.


Yeah, you just sit back and relax with a bowl of cereal and the tube. Times were simpler back then. 

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Written By: mqg96 on 02/16/16 at 8:28 pm


I was more of a Fruit Loops, Apple Jacks, Frutti Pebble,Honey Nut Cheerios, and cinnamon toast crunch kid growing up. ;)


I ate all of those growing up! My favorite cereals back then were Honey Nut Cheerios, Froot Loops, and Apple Jacks. I just loved the O's! I also used to like Captain Crunch growing up but now it tastes nasty like sugar cubes with milk. The only kids cereal left that's still worth eating is Cinnamon Toast Crunch IMO, and call me crazy but Apple Jacks still taste good to me. I currently love Golden Grahams and Honey Bunches of Oats the best.

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Written By: mqg96 on 02/16/16 at 8:32 pm


Back in the 80's cartoons were much better.


I told you this or somebody else months ago, but I'm sorry but the 80's decade for cartoons were terrible.The 80's had some decent action cartoons but that was about it, and even then the action cartoons throughout the 90's and 2000's stomp those too. All of the regular cartoons from the 80's were babyish and based off so many toy merchandises, plus a lot of cartoons from the 60's and 70's turned into babies.

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Written By: mqg96 on 02/16/16 at 8:33 pm


It's all pretty subjective to what we grew up on. ;D ;D ;D


That's a cool Spider-Man post you got. Giving me some epic Jetix memories!

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Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/16/16 at 8:35 pm


I told you this or somebody else months ago, but I'm sorry but the 80's decade for cartoons were terrible.The 80's had some decent action cartoons but that was about it, and even then the action cartoons throughout the 90's and 2000's stomp those too. All of the regular cartoons from the 80's were babyish and based off so many toy merchandises, plus a lot of cartoons from the 60's and 70's turned into babies.

I agree, a lot of them haven't aged well AT ALL. The LATE 80s cartoons(Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers, Ducktales, Land Before Time, Brave Little Toaster, American Tail, Little Mermaid), still hold up today though.

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Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/16/16 at 8:37 pm


That's a cool Spider-Man post you got. Giving me some epic Jetix memories!


Yea boy!! :D :D :D
I also remember watching it on the regular Toon Disney before they changed to Jetix.
A fun fact: I first saw Hulk the Animated series, Spider-man and his amazing friends on ABC family in 2003 Saturday morning while on vacation in Branson, MO.

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Written By: mqg96 on 02/16/16 at 8:56 pm


Yea boy!! :D :D :D
I also remember watching it on the regular Toon Disney before they changed to Jetix.
A fun fact: I first saw Hulk the Animated series, Spider-man and his amazing friends on ABC family in 2003 Saturday morning while on vacation in Branson, MO.


It seems like before Jetix came into existence a lot of its shows were either on ABC Family/Kids, or FOX Kids/FOX BOX. I only watched ABC Kids of the group I listed though, which is when I first discovered Power Rangers.

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Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/17/16 at 7:07 am

In my opinion, the best cartoons came out in the 60's and 70's. The 80's were good for cartoons but I prefer the sitcoms of that era and the 90's are almost as good as the 60's-70's but not quite there. 

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Written By: mqg96 on 02/17/16 at 7:16 am


In my opinion, the best cartoons came out in the 60's and 70's. The 80's were good for cartoons but I prefer the sitcoms of that era and the 90's are almost as good as the 60's-70's but not quite there.


I could agree with the 60's being good for cartoons, but not the 70's. So many Scooby-Doo rip-off's from that era and cheap animal cartoons. I don't think the 70's decade for cartoons have aged well either. Not as bad as the 80's but still not good.

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Written By: mqg96 on 02/17/16 at 7:28 am


Naw, Phineas & Ferb and Gravity Falls are really good, and better than KND ("oh my god you just did not!") in my opinion. I've enjoyed every episode I've watched of those. I don't really get to watch them very often though.


I agree that Phineas & Ferb and Gravity Falls are higher quality than KND which pains me to say of course too. I remember teens in middle school and high school enjoying Phineas & Ferb and having some merchandise for it, not just kids. Codename: KND is a really good show that relates well to kids, I mean Numbuh #1 always said that if you're 13 & older you can't be in. I loved the show as a kid, but let's be honest the key to a great cartoon is appealing to a large audience. For example, you notice how there are kids, teens, and mostly importantly, adults who have merchandise for Adventure Time and Regular Show. You see people with Adventure Time or Regular Show shirts, wristbands, jackets, shoes, hats, blankets, etc. Heck, you even see or hear Adventure Time or Regular Show references in movies or shows geared towards the youth or adults as well. That's definitely saying something. While I think this has been a good decade for cartoons in general (not talking about the channels), I think the year 2010 in general was one of the greatest years for cartoons ever, probably right there next to 2001.

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Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/17/16 at 7:44 am


I could agree with the 60's being good for cartoons, but not the 70's. So many Scooby-Doo rip-off's from that era and cheap animal cartoons. I don't think the 70's decade for cartoons have aged well either. Not as bad as the 80's but still not good.


I grew up with lot's of 70's cartoons so I'm nostalgic for things like Super Friends, Fat Albert but crap like The Pebbles and Bam-Bam show was just straight up weird. The 80's were pretty good, especially during the late 80's. Transformers, Duck Tales, Masters of the Universe, Inspector Gadget, A Pup Named Scooby Doo and The Super Mario Bros. Super Show are all shows I remember fondly along with the classics from the 60's. 

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Written By: mqg96 on 02/17/16 at 8:01 am


I grew up with lot's of 70's cartoons so I'm nostalgic for things like Super Friends, Fat Albert but crap like The Pebbles and Bam-Bam show was just straight up weird. The 80's were pretty good, especially during the late 80's. Transformers, Duck Tales, Masters of the Universe, Inspector Gadget, A Pup Named Scooby Doo and The Super Mario Bros. Super Show are all shows I remember fondly along with the classics from the 60's.


Only the VERY late 80's was as good period for cartoons, which set up the Renaissance Age in the 90's, but most of the 80's was a dark age except for the action cartoons, and even then it doesn't stand to the great action cartoons from the 90's & 2000's. It's funny how A Pup Named Scooby-Doo is one of the only good 80's cartoons that's based off a franchise turned into kids or babies, yet it came out in 1988 towards the end of the decade. I grew up with reruns of A Pup Named Scooby-Doo, which was on Cartoon Network many times throughout the early 2000's, and still there in 2004 and 2005 as well. I remember Ducktales on Toon Disney but I didn't care for it that much. I just remember how cool that intro was and that's it.

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/17/16 at 8:21 am


I grew up with lot's of 70's cartoons so I'm nostalgic for things like Super Friends, Fat Albert but crap like The Pebbles and Bam-Bam show was just straight up weird. The 80's were pretty good, especially during the late 80's. Transformers, Duck Tales, Masters of the Universe, Inspector Gadget, A Pup Named Scooby Doo and The Super Mario Bros. Super Show are all shows I remember fondly along with the classics from the 60's.


The 80s and early 90s were pretty good for cartoons. Especially those made by Hanna-Barbera.

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Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/17/16 at 8:34 am


Only the VERY late 80's was as good period for cartoons, which set up the Renaissance Age in the 90's, but most of the 80's was a dark age except for the action cartoons, and even then it doesn't stand to the great action cartoons from the 90's & 2000's. It's funny how A Pup Named Scooby-Doo is one of the only good 80's cartoons that's based off a franchise turned into kids or babies, yet it came out in 1988 towards the end of the decade. I grew up with reruns of A Pup Named Scooby-Doo, which was on Cartoon Network many times throughout the early 2000's, and still there in 2004 and 2005 as well. I remember Ducktales on Toon Disney but I didn't care for it that much. I just remember how cool that intro was and that's it.


I know people say the 80's were a "dark age" but I still think the cartoons from back then were pretty sick. Not as good as the 90's or the mighty 60's but still good stuff. 


The 80s and early 90s were pretty good for cartoons. Especially those made by Hanna-Barbera.


Totally agree. Hannah-Barbera always has the best cartoons. The only thing I hate are the Flintstones spin-offs.

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Written By: SpyroKev on 02/17/16 at 8:42 am


Funny you mention this. Codename: KND is the first Cartoon Network I can clearly remember being excited to witness the premiere brand new when I was little. It's one of my top CN shows of all time. I agree with many other posters that the 1st half of the 2000's was a great time for cartoons, but the 2nd half not so much. In other words. 2000-2004 had some really good hits, 2005 was the transitional year, and 2006-2009 was mediocre with a few exceptions.

However, the 90's had just as many mediocre cartoons as the 2000's decade. The problem is that a lot of people tend to only focus on the positive about the 90's cartoons and forget about the negative ones, while when it comes to 2000's cartoons people only focus on the negative and forget the positive that it offered. It's not a fact that the 90's was a better decade for cartoons than the 2000's, it's an opinion. If the show had the majority of its in the 2000's, then it's a 2000's cartoon in my book, whether it's core 2000's or millennial.

If you ask me. I think the 2010's for cartoons has been the best era we've had in modern times, except for the action part of it.


Oh, I'm aware. I meant the golden age of cartoons starting in 1990 as in, there were still many ideas left. I agree with you. I always considered Ed, Edd N Eddy and Courage The Cowardly Dog 2000s cartoons. While The Powerpuff Girls is Late 90s and Early-mid 2000s.



Why did it end?


Kids Next Door? The series supposedly ended in 2006 with the Operation Zero movie. I didn't actually like it. Plus, I was disappointed how the Splinter Cell season was discontinued. I can say the same for Teen Titans. So many questions went unanswered.


Naw, Phineas & Ferb and Gravity Falls are really good, and better than KND ("oh my god you just did not!") in my opinion. I've enjoyed every episode I've watched of those. I don't really get to watch them very often though.


I don't like Gravity Falls for some reason. I seen one episode and I was thrown off.


To be fair, maybe Spyro never watched any cartoon from the post-2005 era. Same with how I barely watch cartoons from the 2010s. He doesn't really think they're good compared to the 90s/early 2000s.


I'll give the Ben 10 Alien Force series and Phineas & Ferb some praise. I don't see the appeal in The Regular Show anymore. I basically forgot Adventure Time.

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/17/16 at 9:00 am


Kids Next Door? The series supposedly ended in 2006 with the Operation Zero movie. I didn't actually like it. Plus, I was disappointed how the Splinter Cell season was discontinued. I can say the same for Teen Titans. So many questions went unanswered.


That wasn't when KND ended. The series finale was Operation Interviews, which aired on January 21, 2008.

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Written By: SpyroKev on 02/17/16 at 11:22 am


That wasn't when KND ended. The series finale was Operation Interviews, which aired on January 21, 2008.


I meant supposedly ended as in, the series is supposedly returning. Still had no idea of Operation Interviews though.

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/17/16 at 11:55 am


I meant supposedly ended as in, the series is supposedly returning. Still had no idea of Operation Interviews though.


Technically, it was the actual series finale for KND.

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Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/17/16 at 12:11 pm


I know people say the 80's were a "dark age" but I still think the cartoons from back then were pretty sick. Not as good as the 90's or the mighty 60's but still good stuff. 

Totally agree. Hannah-Barbera always has the best cartoons. The only thing I hate are the Flintstones spin-offs.

50s/EARLY 60s and the 90s/early 00s will always be the best imo.

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Written By: mqg96 on 02/17/16 at 12:33 pm


50s/EARLY 60s and the 90s/early 00s will always be the best imo.


I'll say this though. 1992, 1996, 2001, and 2010 were some of the greatest years for cartoons that came out.

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Written By: Howard on 02/17/16 at 2:34 pm


I was more of a Fruit Loops, Apple Jacks, Frutti Pebble,Honey Nut Cheerios, and cinnamon toast crunch kid growing up. ;)


I was a Frosted Flakes kid.

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Written By: Howard on 02/17/16 at 2:35 pm


Those cartoon, too, rule!

Yeah, you just sit back and relax with a bowl of cereal and the tube. Times were simpler back then.


I guess you could it with YouTube but it's not the same like it was 35 years ago.

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Written By: Howard on 02/17/16 at 2:37 pm


I grew up with lot's of 70's cartoons so I'm nostalgic for things like Super Friends, Fat Albert but crap like The Pebbles and Bam-Bam show was just straight up weird. The 80's were pretty good, especially during the late 80's. Transformers, Duck Tales, Masters of the Universe, Inspector Gadget, A Pup Named Scooby Doo and The Super Mario Bros. Super Show are all shows I remember fondly along with the classics from the 60's.


I grew up with 80's cartoons.

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Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/17/16 at 10:39 pm


I grew up with 80's cartoons.

You didn't watch any 40s, 50s, 60s, or 70s cartoons? ???

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Written By: Toon on 02/17/16 at 10:46 pm

When it comes to cartoons I never like a certain cartoon just because of nostalgia. Mostly due to seeing nostalgia as just bias (especially since some of the things I used to like now seem cringe worthy). Although after doing some thinking I just remember that  because of the Tex Avery Show, Looney Tunes Show (2002), Bob Clampett Show, Popeye Show, Chuck Jones Show, Mickey's Mouse Tracks, Donald's Quack Attack, Toon Heads, and everything on Boomerang I ended up seeing cartoons from the 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s. Boy oh boy some of them 70's-80's cartoons don't hold up very well. No offense to 70's-80's cartoon lovers though. I'm mostly just speaking from my own personal preference.


Been a hardcore cartoon fan for 6 years now. Own DVDs and done (a bit too much) research on the cartoons and the companies that made them. If anyone is ever interested try to find some behind the scenes videos, articles, or books on your favorite cartoons. I now know cartoon history from 1898-2012. Yes, I am a crazy obsessed cartoon nerd. ;D

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/18/16 at 8:37 am


When it comes to cartoons I never like a certain cartoon just because of nostalgia. Mostly due to seeing nostalgia as just bias (especially since some of the things I used to like now seem cringe worthy). Although after doing some thinking I just remember that  because of the Tex Avery Show, Looney Tunes Show (2002), Bob Clampett Show, Popeye Show, Chuck Jones Show, Mickey's Mouse Tracks, Donald's Quack Attack, Toon Heads, and everything on Boomerang I ended up seeing cartoons from the 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s. Boy oh boy some of them 70's-80's cartoons don't hold up very well. No offense to 70's-80's cartoon lovers though. I'm mostly just speaking from my own personal preference.


Been a hardcore cartoon fan for 6 years now. Own DVDs and done (a bit too much) research on the cartoons and the companies that made them. If anyone is ever interested try to find some behind the scenes videos, articles, or books on your favorite cartoons. I now know cartoon history from 1898-2012. Yes, I am a crazy obsessed cartoon nerd. ;D


Well, that seems okay. I basically seem to watch cartoons from the 90s and 2000s, mostly because of nostalgia, but I'm not really interested with cartoon history.

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Written By: Howard on 02/18/16 at 3:16 pm


You didn't watch any 40s, 50s, 60s, or 70s cartoons? ???


No, after 1979, Yes.

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Written By: ocarinafan96 on 02/18/16 at 3:49 pm


50s/EARLY 60s and the 90s/early 00s will always be the best imo.


I agree. I also find it ironic how many Boomers grew up in the 50's/early 60's and consider their cartoons part of the 'Golden Age'. The same could be said about their children the Millennials who claim that their cartoons were part of the 'Golden Age' when they were kids in the 90's or early 00's...

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Written By: Zelek2 on 02/18/16 at 3:58 pm

But even older people seem to agree that the 90s and 2000-2005 were great whereas 2006-2009 sucked.

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/18/16 at 4:17 pm


But even older people seem to agree that the 90s and 2000-2005 were great whereas 2006-2009 sucked.


I don't think a lot of people would say that. Not every single person is a cartoon fanatic for crying out loud.

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Written By: 2001 on 02/18/16 at 5:30 pm


But even older people seem to agree that the 90s and 2000-2005 were great whereas 2006-2009 sucked.


What do you mean by older people?

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Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/18/16 at 7:33 pm


What do you mean by older people?

He's talking about the boomers and early Xers I assume!

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Written By: 2001 on 02/18/16 at 7:35 pm


He's talking about the boomers and early Xers I assume!


Do they think 90s/early 2000s were a golden age? It really doesn't seem all that different from 2000s/2010s stuff to me now that I'm older honestly.

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Written By: Zelek2 on 02/18/16 at 7:50 pm

For what it's worth, this guy was already in high school by the late 90s, but he liked the cartoons of that time, and believes things started going downhill around 2005ish:
http://www.toonzone.net/forums/threads/cartoon-networks-death-how-i-learned-to-give-up-the-fight-and-stop-caring.4215941/

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Written By: 2001 on 02/18/16 at 7:58 pm


For what it's worth, this guy was already in high school by the late 90s, but he liked the cartoons of that time, and believes things started going downhill around 2005ish:
http://www.toonzone.net/forums/threads/cartoon-networks-death-how-i-learned-to-give-up-the-fight-and-stop-caring.4215941/


Haha, this thread was made in 2006. If you read the thread most seem to think it died anywhere between 2002 to 2005.  ;D

But people always say things like this when it's modern/present, as 2004-2006 were back then.

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Written By: Zelek2 on 02/18/16 at 8:02 pm

Well, NOWadays, most people would agree that cartoons went downhill around the time that thread was posted (2005-06ish), before hitting a rebound in 2010 with Adventure Time, Gravity Falls, and others.

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Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/18/16 at 8:35 pm


I agree. I also find it ironic how many Boomers grew up in the 50's/early 60's and consider their cartoons part of the 'Golden Age'. The same could be said about their children the Millennials who claim that their cartoons were part of the 'Golden Age' when they were kids in the 90's or early 00's...

It's because its true!! ;)  Boomers and us Millennials did have the best cartoons! Sorry Gen X(looking at you Howard! ;) ;D )

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/18/16 at 8:52 pm


Haha, this thread was made in 2006. If you read the thread most seem to think it died anywhere between 2002 to 2005.  ;D

But people always say things like this when it's modern/present, as 2004-2006 were back then.


Well, don't most cartoon fanatics (especially those on Toonzone, whom I disagree with) think that every cartoon should be for kids and adults? Like, I don't know why would anybody think that CN died during the mid 2000s. They had f*cking Boomerang, for christ sakes. That's more better than having just Cartoon Network to entertain you. And you know what's worse? Nickelodeon doesn't even have any good shows right now. Back in 2006, at least they had Avatar, MLAATR, Seasons 1-5 Spongebob, Jimmy Neutron, Fairy odd Parents, Chalkzone, and the list goes on and on. Some people disagree what I've mention, but it's better than having just Disney, Cartoon Network, and the Hub enjoying your animated needs.

Actually, come to think of it, I've really think that the 2000s were kinda better. Considering that Nickelodeon had good sh*t back then, I would enjoy it. Especially when Discovery Family was Discovery Kids. That was really better, in my opinion.

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Written By: ocarinafan96 on 02/18/16 at 9:09 pm


It's because its true!! ;)  Boomers and us Millennials did have the best cartoons! Sorry Gen X(looking at you Howard! ;) ;D )


Lol true. Although Gen Z is doing pretty well with themselves with Steven Universe, Adventure Time, & Regular Show

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Written By: Toon on 02/18/16 at 9:19 pm


Lol true. Although Gen Z is doing pretty well with themselves with Steven Universe, Adventure Time, & Regular Show


And that brings up my point. People tend to love cartoons that they're growing up with. Gen Z members who're in their mid teens or younger are now growing up with 2010's cartoons. When they're older they'll look back and feel nostalgic for cartoons like Gravity Falls, Adventure Time, Star vs the Forces of Evil, Ninja Turtles 2012 etc. Although I think the 2010s is a good decade for cartoons so I'd also probably be nostalgic for the cartoons. Most of the people I've met who're in their late 30s or 40s tend to think they were in the "golden age" of cartoons (which to them is 70s and 80s). To me the "golden age" is the 1920s - 1950s as that era is literally called the Golden Age of Animation and I love those old cartoon shorts. Although I love cartoons from almost all decades. The 2010s is good to me. Hope the 2020s is just as good if not even better.



Haha, this thread was made in 2006. If you read the thread most seem to think it died anywhere between 2002 to 2005.  ;D

But people always say things like this when it's modern/present, as 2004-2006 were back then.


"If it's modern then it sucks"

"If that modern thing is now old then it's all of a sudden good"


The mentality that a lot of people tend to have for some strange reason. Although while I'm not a fan of late 00's cartoons (except for some like Chowder or Flapjack) I was always fine with mid 00's cartoons like Cat Scratch, Justice League Unlimited, Avatar Last Airbnder, Danny Phantom, Camp Lazlo, Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends ect.

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Written By: 80sfan on 02/18/16 at 9:40 pm

I actually think that cartoons, and some kid shows, have become good again after 2011, or around there!

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Written By: Howard on 02/19/16 at 7:49 am


But even older people seem to agree that the 90s and 2000-2005 were great whereas 2006-2009 sucked.


But the 90's weren't really that great.

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Written By: Howard on 02/19/16 at 7:50 am


It's because its true!! ;)  Boomers and us Millennials did have the best cartoons! Sorry Gen X(looking at you Howard! ;) ;D )


and we all grew up with that.

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Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/19/16 at 7:59 am

Of out all these 2010's cartoons you guys talk about I only know of Adventure Time. That show's kinda funny but I've only seen a couple episodes. A good adult cartoon from today would definitely be Rick and Morty.


But the 90's weren't really that great.


I think the 80's (1981-1992) is the best decade of all time but the 90's (1993-2003) isn't too far behind.

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Written By: Zelek2 on 02/19/16 at 9:54 am

Gen Z has the best cartoons, simply because they can go on the Internet and find any show they want from virtually any time period. 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s, you name it.

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/19/16 at 10:01 am


Gen Z has the best cartoons, simply because they can go on the Internet and find any show they want from virtually any time period. 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s, you name it.


Well, that's true. But Gen Y also had a variety of cartoons, since they could get VHS tapes of cartoons from the 30s to early-mid 00s back then.

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Written By: mqg96 on 02/19/16 at 10:40 am


Well, don't most cartoon fanatics (especially those on Toonzone, whom I disagree with) think that every cartoon should be for kids and adults? Like, I don't know why would anybody think that CN died during the mid 2000s. They had f*cking Boomerang, for christ sakes. That's more better than having just Cartoon Network to entertain you. And you know what's worse? Nickelodeon doesn't even have any good shows right now. Back in 2006, at least they had Avatar, MLAATR, Seasons 1-5 Spongebob, Jimmy Neutron, Fairy odd Parents, Chalkzone, and the list goes on and on. Some people disagree what I've mention, but it's better than having just Disney, Cartoon Network, and the Hub enjoying your animated needs.


I was only on that website for a little bit, I hardly get on now unless I want to comment on something really important. Toonzone members do have strong opinions about cartoons, since they are strictly cartoon fans without a doubt. So they have to be unbiased and block the nostalgia out of the way. I notice that the majority of the people born in the early 90's & earlier believe CN died in 2004, since they spent all of their childhood/elementary years being used to Cartoon Cartoons, Toonami on weekdays, and classics regularly, so it shocked them when all those changes happened at once throughout 2004, and a lot of them believe Cartoon Network revived itself in 2010 too (which I agree with myself). Early 90's babies were the peak target audience for CN's golden age (Summer 1997-Spring 2004). While late 90's babies were the peak target audience for CN City/Yes (Summer 2004-Summer 2007). However, there were many 70's and 80's babies who enjoyed Cartoon Network during its golden age too for many of the classic shows and shorts from the 30's-80's and they even liked Toonami at the time too for anime or action shows. Cartoon Network throughout the early 2000's wasn't just for kids, but even adults found stuff on there it could enjoy too so it had that everyone feel to it. CN City/Yes, while it's bumpers were really good, it only appealed to kids, I was still in my peak childhood obviously so I enjoyed it, but a lot of people born in the early 90's or earlier hardly found any good shows to watch during the CN City/Yes because they thought the lineup changes and the shows were too kiddy or watered down compared to the Powerhouse/golden age. Here's what a lot of people forget though, it was a lot harder to get Boomerang back then than it is now. That goes for digital cable channels in general. A lot more people have Boomerang now, but back in the early-mid 2000's hardly anybody's cable provider had it. My family didn't get Boomerang until 2007, but I know many others who didn't even get it until the early 2010's, and by then Boomerang's old era was declining or on its way out.

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Written By: Toon on 02/19/16 at 11:56 am


Well, that's true. But Gen Y also had a variety of cartoons, since they could get VHS tapes of cartoons from the 30s to early-mid 00s back then.


Same can be said for DVDs nowadays. I just bought an DVD collection of old MGM (the company that made Tom & Jerry) 1940's cartoons on it 2 weeks ago. I like VHS, but when it comes to cartoons they only have around 2 episodes on them. With DVDs now you can get the complete series.

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Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/19/16 at 12:01 pm


Here's a fun nostalgic critic video! :)
qXpWAO0F7ck

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/19/16 at 2:51 pm


I was only on that website for a little bit, I hardly get on now unless I want to comment on something really important. Toonzone members do have strong opinions about cartoons, since they are strictly cartoon fans without a doubt. So they have to be unbiased and block the nostalgia out of the way. I notice that the majority of the people born in the early 90's & earlier believe CN died in 2004, since they spent all of their childhood/elementary years being used to Cartoon Cartoons, Toonami on weekdays, and classics regularly, so it shocked them when all those changes happened at once throughout 2004, and a lot of them believe Cartoon Network revived itself in 2010 too (which I agree with myself). Early 90's babies were the peak target audience for CN's golden age (Summer 1997-Spring 2004). While late 90's babies were the peak target audience for CN City/Yes (Summer 2004-Summer 2007). However, there were many 70's and 80's babies who enjoyed Cartoon Network during its golden age too for many of the classic shows and shorts from the 30's-80's and they even liked Toonami at the time too for anime or action shows. Cartoon Network throughout the early 2000's wasn't just for kids, but even adults found stuff on there it could enjoy too so it had that everyone feel to it. CN City/Yes, while it's bumpers were really good, it only appealed to kids, I was still in my peak childhood obviously so I enjoyed it, but a lot of people born in the early 90's or earlier hardly found any good shows to watch during the CN City/Yes because they thought the lineup changes and the shows were too kiddy or watered down compared to the Powerhouse/golden age. Here's what a lot of people forget though, it was a lot harder to get Boomerang back then than it is now. That goes for digital cable channels in general. A lot more people have Boomerang now, but back in the early-mid 2000's hardly anybody's cable provider had it. My family didn't get Boomerang until 2007, but I know many others who didn't even get it until the early 2010's, and by then Boomerang's old era was declining or on its way out.


I pretty much had Boomerang when my family got digital cable during the early 2000s (I think). I didn't really watch it until I was in kindergarten, when I started to watch Cartoon Network. I had it because it was on Time Warner Cable, where they pretty much had any digital cable channel back in the 2000s. But if people didn't have Boomerang back then, they could at least buy the DVDs of their favorite cartoons. I may disagree with Toonzone whenever they talk about modern cartoons, but if they just wanna enjoy cartoons, then I think they should've do that.

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Written By: Toon on 02/19/16 at 5:44 pm


Here's a fun nostalgic critic video! :)
qXpWAO0F7ck


I agree with the Nostalgia Critic fully.  8)

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/19/16 at 6:36 pm


Here's a fun nostalgic critic video! :)
qXpWAO0F7ck


Honestly, I disagree with what the NC says about today's cartoons. I can get that Star vs. the Force of Evil is good, but not as good as the cartoons from the past decade.

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Written By: SpyroKev on 02/19/16 at 7:09 pm

I must be the only person that remember ThunderCats 2011. That show had serious potential. Better not be freakin' cancelled.

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Written By: Zelek2 on 02/19/16 at 7:10 pm

I think it is...in fact, it was cancelled about 4 years ago.

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/19/16 at 7:18 pm


I must be the only person that remember ThunderCats 2011. That show had serious potential. Better not be freakin' cancelled.


Actually, I remember the 2011 Thundercats, and they're kinda better than the 80s ones. However, I didn't really watch any of their episodes.

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Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/19/16 at 7:36 pm


I notice that the majority of the people born in the early 90's & earlier believe CN died in 2004, since they spent all of their childhood/elementary years being used to Cartoon Cartoons, Toonami on weekdays, and classics regularly, so it shocked them when all those changes happened at once throughout 2004, and a lot of them believe Cartoon Network revived itself in 2010 too (which I agree with myself). Early 90's babies were the peak target audience for CN's golden age (Summer 1997-Spring 2004). While late 90's babies were the peak target audience for CN City/Yes (Summer 2004-Summer 2007). However, there were many 70's and 80's babies who enjoyed Cartoon Network during its golden age too for many of the classic shows and shorts from the 30's-80's and they even liked Toonami at the time too for anime or action shows. Cartoon Network throughout the early 2000's wasn't just for kids, but even adults found stuff on there it could enjoy too so it had that everyone feel to it. CN City/Yes, while it's bumpers were really good, it only appealed to kids, I was still in my peak childhood obviously so I enjoyed it, but a lot of people born in the early 90's or earlier hardly found any good shows to watch during the CN City/Yes because they thought the lineup changes and the shows were too kiddy or watered down compared to the Powerhouse/golden age. Here's what a lot of people forget though, it was a lot harder to get Boomerang back then than it is now. That goes for digital cable channels in general. A lot more people have Boomerang now, but back in the early-mid 2000's hardly anybody's cable provider had it. My family didn't get Boomerang until 2007, but I know many others who didn't even get it until the early 2010's, and by then Boomerang's old era was declining or on its way out.

I guess, I'm kind of a hybrid of the golden age and the city era then :o  right?! ???  But yeah, almost all early 90s babies think it declined in the mid 2000s, even those born in the first half of the mid 90s(93-95) also think it declined in the mid 00s.
Also I'm in complete minority on this as a mid 90s baby, but I think the last good thing CN did was the summer of 2005 until they made a MIGHTY comeback in the early 2010s.

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Written By: Zelek2 on 02/19/16 at 7:46 pm

I could be wrong, but I think mid 90s (93-97ish) babies believe CN declined moreso in 2007 at the time of the Boston bomb scare, rather than earlier 90s (90-93ish) babies who think it died in 2004 because of the logo change and the "meh" newer shows (Puffy Amiyumi, Juniper Lee, Camp lazlo).

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Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/19/16 at 7:48 pm


I was only on that website for a little bit, I hardly get on now unless I want to comment on something really important. Toonzone members do have strong opinions about cartoons, since they are strictly cartoon fans without a doubt. So they have to be unbiased and block the nostalgia out of the way. I notice that the majority of the people born in the early 90's & earlier believe CN died in 2004, since they spent all of their childhood/elementary years being used to Cartoon Cartoons, Toonami on weekdays, and classics regularly, so it shocked them when all those changes happened at once throughout 2004, and a lot of them believe Cartoon Network revived itself in 2010 too (which I agree with myself). Early 90's babies were the peak target audience for CN's golden age (Summer 1997-Spring 2004). While late 90's babies were the peak target audience for CN City/Yes (Summer 2004-Summer 2007). However, there were many 70's and 80's babies who enjoyed Cartoon Network during its golden age too for many of the classic shows and shorts from the 30's-80's and they even liked Toonami at the time too for anime or action shows. Cartoon Network throughout the early 2000's wasn't just for kids, but even adults found stuff on there it could enjoy too so it had that everyone feel to it. CN City/Yes, while it's bumpers were really good, it only appealed to kids, I was still in my peak childhood obviously so I enjoyed it, but a lot of people born in the early 90's or earlier hardly found any good shows to watch during the CN City/Yes because they thought the lineup changes and the shows were too kiddy or watered down compared to the Powerhouse/golden age. Here's what a lot of people forget though, it was a lot harder to get Boomerang back then than it is now. That goes for digital cable channels in general. A lot more people have Boomerang now, but back in the early-mid 2000's hardly anybody's cable provider had it. My family didn't get Boomerang until 2007, but I know many others who didn't even get it until the early 2010's, and by then Boomerang's old era was declining or on its way out.

Here's a video from Jamie aka Futuregohanssj2. He was born in 1995 just like me! 8)
C4FMXHFW38M

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Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/19/16 at 7:52 pm


I could be wrong, but I think mid 90s (93-97ish) babies believe CN declined moreso in 2007 at the time of the Boston bomb scare, rather than earlier 90s (90-93ish) babies who think it died in 2004 because of the logo change and the "meh" newer shows (Puffy Amiyumi, Juniper Lee, Camp lazlo).

YES! you are wrong. As a 95 born, I think CN started to decline during the 05-06 school year when Toonami started going downhill, and when Camp Lazlo, Robot Boy, Puffy Amiyumi, and Ben 10(damned good show for it's time) premiered. Ironically that's when (Early) Gen Z kid culture influences started being ushered in.

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Written By: Zelek2 on 02/19/16 at 7:58 pm

I'm curious: if a show came out in, let's say the summer of 2006, is that the 05-06 school year or the 06-07 school year?

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/19/16 at 8:00 pm


I'm curious: if a show came out in, let's say the summer of 2006, is that the 05-06 school year or the 06-07 school year?


It's in the 2006-07 school year, hands down.

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Written By: Zelek2 on 02/19/16 at 8:01 pm

But elementary schools are closed from June-September in the U.S.

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/19/16 at 8:02 pm


But elementary schools are closed from June-September in the U.S.


But if it continues on airing during September to December of 2006, then it could be a cartoon during the 06-07 year.

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Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/19/16 at 8:03 pm


I'm curious: if a show came out in, let's say the summer of 2006, is that the 05-06 school year or the 06-07 school year?

06-07 WITHOUT QUESTION!

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Written By: 2001 on 02/19/16 at 8:04 pm

What if you take summer school? ;D

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Written By: Toon on 02/19/16 at 8:06 pm


I'm curious: if a show came out in, let's say the summer of 2006, is that the 05-06 school year or the 06-07 school year?


A school year is the late part of a year to the early part of the next (for example the 2015-2016 school year is late 2015 to early 2016). If something comes out during the summer of '06 then that means most of its run would be during the late 2006 to early 2007 school year. Although if the show goes on for the entire late '00s then you can just say that's a late 00's show or something.

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Written By: mqg96 on 02/19/16 at 8:29 pm


I guess, I'm kind of a hybrid of the golden age and the city era then :o  right?! ???  But yeah, almost all early 90s babies think it declined in the mid 2000s, even those born in the first half of the mid 90s(93-95) also think it declined in the mid 00s.
Also I'm in complete minority on this as a mid 90s baby, but I think the last good thing CN did was the summer of 2005 until they made a MIGHTY comeback in the early 2010s.


Yep you're right! Mid 90's babies are hybrids between the golden age (Powerhouse) and City eras, and IMO the last great year Cartoon Network had before the early 2010's was 2005. The last summer Cartoon Network was tolerable was 2007 IMO, even though I agree it was already declining throughout 2006.

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Written By: mqg96 on 02/19/16 at 8:33 pm


I'm curious: if a show came out in, let's say the summer of 2006, is that the 05-06 school year or the 06-07 school year?


It wouldn't make sense for a show that premiered in summer 2006 to be part of the 2005-06 school year when it wasn't even around throughout ALL of the school year from August/September 2005-May/June 2006. That's like saying that Teen Titans was part of the 2002-03 school year when it didn't even premiere until July 2003, which I witnessed brand new a few weeks before my 2nd grade year started (2003-04).

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/19/16 at 9:37 pm


What if you take summer school? ;D


It wouldn't be the same as attending regular school, though.

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/19/16 at 9:49 pm


Yep you're right! Mid 90's babies are hybrids between the golden age (Powerhouse) and City eras, and IMO the last great year Cartoon Network had before the early 2010's was 2005. The last summer Cartoon Network was tolerable was 2007 IMO, even though I agree it was already declining throughout 2006.


Even though I'm a late 90s baby, I could pretty much say that the City/Yes eras were the best for me on CN. From 2005-2008, they kinda had a cool variety of their original cartoons. 2009 was kinda mediocre, since they had CN Real and that's when they had Chowder, Flapjack, and TDI as the only good shows by then. 2010 is when I kinda felt disappointed towards their new changes.

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Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/19/16 at 9:51 pm


Yep you're right! Mid 90's babies are hybrids between the golden age (Powerhouse) and City eras, and IMO the last great year Cartoon Network had before the early 2010's was 2005. The last summer Cartoon Network was tolerable was 2007 IMO, even though I agree it was already declining throughout 2006.

I still say 2004 was the last GREAT year overall before the early 10s rebrand. ;)

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Written By: Toon on 02/19/16 at 9:54 pm

I liked the CN City era quite a bit. To me the last good year was either 2006 or 2007.

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Written By: Zelek2 on 02/19/16 at 9:56 pm

Does anyone remember around 2006, during Regal Entertainment's previews for a movie, they would show episodes of TV shows that were popular at the time? Well, I remember one of the channels showcased was Cartoon network (or maybe Boomerang), and - believe it or not - they showed an episode of a classic cartoon (Real Adventures of Johnny Quest, maybe? I can't remember exactly), even though they had gotten rid of most of them in 2004.

If I recall correctly, this was the VERY last time CN paid attention to classic animation.

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Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/19/16 at 9:56 pm


I liked the CN City era quite a bit. To me the last good year was either 2006 or 2007.

To me 2005 was the last real good one.

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Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/19/16 at 9:58 pm


Does anyone remember around 2006, during the previews for a movie, they would show episodes of TV shows that were popular at the time? Well, I remember one of the channels was Cartoon network (or maybe Boomerang), and - believe it or not - they showed an episode of a classic cartoon (Real Adventures of Johnny Quest, maybe? I can't remember exactly).

If I recall correctly, this was probably the VERY last time CN paid attention to classic animation.


I think they still showed old school cartoon movies on CN theater after that I believe.

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Written By: mxcrashxm on 02/19/16 at 10:07 pm

Do you guys consider 2009 to be the worst year for cartoons in general? I don't remember anything premiering that year (except a few) and that most of the mediocre cartoons were on at that time.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/19/16 at 10:07 pm


Does anyone remember around 2006, during Regal Entertainment's previews for a movie, they would show episodes of TV shows that were popular at the time? Well, I remember one of the channels showcased was Cartoon network (or maybe Boomerang), and - believe it or not - they showed an episode of a classic cartoon (Real Adventures of Johnny Quest, maybe? I can't remember exactly), even though they had gotten rid of most of them in 2004.

If I recall correctly, this was the VERY last time CN paid attention to classic animation.


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If I've been to newer movies at theaters during 2006, then I could remember them.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/19/16 at 10:11 pm


Do you guys consider 2009 to be the worst year for cartoons in general? I don't remember anything premiering that year (except a few) and that most of the mediocre cartoons were on at that time.


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Except this movie..... ::) Even though I was not the target audience for the film this serves to be mentioned!
http://www.dan-dare.org/FreeFun/Images/CartoonsMoviesTV/UPWallpaper2800.jpg

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/19/16 at 10:14 pm


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If I've been to newer movies at theaters during 2006, then I could remember them.


Is that Pete Wentz?

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/19/16 at 10:14 pm


Do you guys consider 2009 to be the worst year for cartoons in general? I don't remember anything premiering that year (except a few) and that most of the mediocre cartoons were on at that time.


Yep, 2009 is where I can is probably one of the worst years for cartoons.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/19/16 at 10:14 pm


Is that Pete Wentz?


Yes

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/19/16 at 10:16 pm


http://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/29741890.jpg


Except this movie..... ::) Even though I was not the target audience for the film this serves to be mentioned!
http://www.dan-dare.org/FreeFun/Images/CartoonsMoviesTV/UPWallpaper2800.jpg


When it comes to 2009 I did enjoy both Pixar's UP and Disney's Princess and the Frog. Hell I still watch Disney/Pixar movies. Pixar is struggling a bit, but Disney is in another good era since 2009.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/19/16 at 10:16 pm


Yes


I knew it! I recognize that face anywhere.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/19/16 at 10:19 pm


I still say 2004 was the last GREAT year overall before the early 10s rebrand. ;)


I preferred 2004 Cartoon Network over 2005 programming wise, but afford wise and when it comes to Toonami I'd take 2005 over that year. I have a huge soft spot for the Saturday night Toonami lineups throughout 2005, Teen Titans, Justice League Unlimited, Naruto, The Batman, iGPX, DBZ (Uncut), etc. and Cartoon Network Fridays with new episodes of CN originals like Codenade: KND, Foster's Home, Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy, Ed, Edd n Eddy, Ben 10, etc. and while the Cartoon Cartoons had ended in 2004, reruns were still shown during the early weekend mornings or late Friday nights throughout most of 2005. Death time slots, but it was still there. I enjoyed CN Fridays when it started off in late 2003 all the way through 2005. However, by 2006 the Fridays logo changed it got too obnoxious. Oh, What's New Scooby-Doo and Duck Dodgers were still around throughout 2005 also! Half of what I listed wasn't around anymore by 2006, matter of fact, by 2006 all of the main CN City/Yes shows were in full force (including My Gym Partner's A Monkey and Squirrel Boy) and all of the CN shows that started in early 2004 & earlier (including Megas XLR, Teen Titans, Duck Dodgers, & JLU) were already ended. If I had to rank my favorite years for Cartoon Network from my best memories. I'd say 2001/2002 >> 2003 >> 2004 >> 2005 >>>>>> 2006/2007. However, Toonami (action/anime) wise 2003 & 2005 were the best hands down.

Edit: the Cartoon Network headquarters isn't that far from where I live. I always pass through the Turner building whenever I've gone through downtown Atlanta my whole life.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/19/16 at 10:23 pm


Do you guys consider 2009 to be the worst year for cartoons in general? I don't remember anything premiering that year (except a few) and that most of the mediocre cartoons were on at that time.


Yeah. 2009 was when cartoons sucked the most for me, and it wouldn't stop being like sh*t until 2013.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/19/16 at 10:24 pm


I preferred 2004 Cartoon Network over 2005 programming wise, but afford wise and when it comes to Toonami I'd take 2005 over that year. I have a huge soft spot for the Saturday night Toonami lineups throughout 2005, Teen Titans, Justice League Unlimited, Naruto, The Batman, iGPX, DBZ (Uncut), etc. and Cartoon Network Fridays with new episodes of CN originals like Codenade: KND, Foster's Home, Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy, Ed, Edd n Eddy, Ben 10, etc. and while the Cartoon Cartoons had ended in 2004, reruns were still shown during the early weekend mornings or late Friday nights throughout most of 2005. Death time slots, but it was still there. I enjoyed CN Fridays when it started off in late 2003 all the way through 2005. However, by 2006 the Fridays logo changed it got too obnoxious. Oh, What's New Scooby-Doo and Duck Dodgers were still around throughout 2005 also! Half of what I listed wasn't around anymore by 2006, matter of fact, by 2006 all of the main CN City/Yes shows were in full force (including My Gym Partner's A Monkey and Squirrel Boy) and all of the CN shows that started in early 2004 & earlier (including Megas XLR, Teen Titans, Duck Dodgers, & JLU) were already ended. If I had to rank my favorite years for Cartoon Network from my best memories. I'd say 2001/2002 >> 2003 >> 2004 >> 2005 >>>>>> 2006/2007. However, Toonami (action/anime) wise 2003 & 2005 were the best hands down.



I disagree with the Toonami part COMPLETELY and maybe it's because I watched longer than you did! ;) 2003 statement I agree with, but 2005... I liked the year for DBZ uncut, Naruto, Justice League Unlimited, IGPX and Teen Titans. but I'd honestly take 2002, 2001 and 2000 over 2005. Cause of them animes doe!(Tenchi, Gundam, Outlaw Star, DB and DBZ )
2001 and 2003 were THE greatest years of that brand imo! :) I really wished I had watched during the TOM 1 era. :\'( Cause 1999 was another great one.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/19/16 at 10:34 pm



I disagree with the Toonami part COMPLETELY and maybe it's because I watched longer than you did! ;) 2003 statement I agree with, but 2005... I liked the year for DBZ uncut, Naruto, Justice League Unlimited, IGPX and Teen Titans. but I'd honestly take 2002, 2001 and 2000 over 2005. Cause of them animes doe!(Tenchi, Gundam, Outlaw Star, DB and DBZ )
2001 and 2003 were THE greatest years of that brand imo! :) I really wished I had watched during the TOM 1 era. :\'( Cause 1999 was another great one.


I understand since you experienced most of the TOM 2 era, and I didn't discover Toonami until TOM 2 was almost done (Summer 2002) since TOM 3 debuted in Spring 2003. Summer 2002 Toonami had a really good lineup, but I preferred the 2005 Saturday night lineup over it for some reason. Nothing tops 2003 Toonami though, that was the best year for me. I was never a big anime fan growing up, I always treated it like any ol' regular cartoon. Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, DBZ, Yu Yu Hakusho, or Naruto are all cartoons to me like any other. My favorite stuff on Toonami was always the DC stuff, like Batman Beyond, Teen Titans, or Justice League/Unlimited.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mxcrashxm on 02/19/16 at 10:37 pm



I disagree with the Toonami part COMPLETELY and maybe it's because I watched longer than you did! ;) 2003 statement I agree with, but 2005... I liked the year for DBZ uncut, Naruto, Justice League Unlimited, IGPX and Teen Titans. but I'd honestly take 2002, 2001 and 2000 over 2005. Cause of them animes doe!(Tenchi, Gundam, Outlaw Star, DB and DBZ )
2001 and 2003 were THE greatest years of that brand imo! :) I really wished I had watched during the TOM 1 era. :\'( Cause 1999 was another great one.
It sure was. I remember this era like yesterday and this is when they began most of the features shown in the future TOM eras. I also watched the last of the Moltar era (when he was the host) as well. I watched a commercial a month ago and the Moltar Toonami logo came to me very well.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/19/16 at 10:38 pm


I understand since you experienced most of the TOM 2 era, and I didn't discover Toonami until TOM 2 was almost done (Summer 2002) since TOM 3 debuted in Spring 2003. Summer 2002 Toonami had a really good lineup, but I preferred the 2005 Saturday night lineup over it for some reason. Nothing tops 2003 Toonami though, that was the best year for me. I was never a big anime fan growing up, I always treated it like any ol' regular cartoon. Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, DBZ, Yu Yu Hakusho, or Naruto are all cartoons to me like any other. My favorite stuff on Toonami was always the DC stuff, like Batman Beyond, Teen Titans, or Justice League/Unlimited.

I can understand the first half of 2005, but going by memories the second half was lackluster compared to the first half!
Yeah either 2003 or 2001. Man that's though! :D :o

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/19/16 at 10:42 pm


I can understand the first half of 2005, but going by memories the second half was lackluster compared to the first half!
Yeah either 2003 or 2001. Man that's though! :D :o


This pretty much in a nutshell for me!

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Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/19/16 at 10:47 pm


This pretty much in a nutshell for me!

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After watching the first video, screw it; I'll say 2003 and 2001 are equally my favorite years of Toonami. :D ;D 
I'd rank 2005 5th overall, and since I watched until 2008.
1a.2001
1b.2003
2.2002
3.1999
4.2005
5.2000
6.2004
7.2006
8.2007
DEAD LAST 2008.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Howard on 02/20/16 at 7:27 am


I agree with the Nostalgia Critic fully.  8)


same here.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: SpyroKev on 02/20/16 at 7:31 am


I think it is...in fact, it was cancelled about 4 years ago.


That's at the time I heard it was on hiatus. How shows with incredibly obvious potential can be suddenly cancelled is truly one of the world's biggest mysteries.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 02/20/16 at 12:47 pm

You guys know those "90s cartoon" collages, right? The ones with characters from various 90s shows clumped together?

Well, are any of you good with PhotoShop? I'd like it if someone created a group of characters from 2000-2005 cartoons and it was titled "2000-2005: The GOAT Period" or something like that.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/20/16 at 12:52 pm


You guys know those "90s cartoon" collages, right? The ones with characters from various 90s shows clumped together?

Well, are any of you good with PhotoShop? I'd like it if someone created a group of characters from 2000-2005 cartoons and it was titled "2000-2005: The GOAT Period" or something like that.


NewYorkEagle is the king of Photoshop.

I am pretty good myself but I will not endorse anything made after 2003. I can, however, make a photo that says "2000-2002: The Last Good Years" but I know you don't agree with that one. :P

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 02/20/16 at 12:54 pm


NewYorkEagle is the king of Photoshop.

I am pretty good myself but I will not endorse anything made after 2003. I can, however, make a photo that says "2000-2002: The Last Good Years" but I know you don't agree with that one. :P

I'm talking about cartoons, not those years in general.

There were some great shows in 2004-2005, like Megas xlr and Avatar: the last airbender. Anything after 2005 sucked, though.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/20/16 at 1:13 pm


I'm talking about cartoons, not those years in general.

There were some great shows in 2004-2005, like Megas xlr and Avatar: the last airbender. Anything after 2005 sucked, though.


Although, I've never seen those shows I think 2004-2006 still had some decent Television. I just couldn't resist making a joke. ;D

Question for you: Do you think 2004-2006 is good just for cartoons or for pop culture in general? And which do you prefer pop culturally? 2000-2002 or 2004-2006?

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 02/20/16 at 1:15 pm

In general, 2004-2006 was fine, but I prefer 2000-2003.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/20/16 at 1:25 pm


NewYorkEagle is the king of Photoshop.

I am pretty good myself but I will not endorse anything made after 2003. I can, however, make a photo that says "2000-2002: The Last Good Years" but I know you don't agree with that one. :P


http://reactiongif.org/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/08/GIF-Haha-No-No-way-Nix-Never-GIF.gif

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Howard on 02/20/16 at 2:23 pm

Cartoons back then were geared towards a younger audience (the early to mid 80's) but as the audience grew up (the early to mid 90's,) cartoons went towards a different style. You had adult gags, vomiting, sex jokes and references and this is why you had Adult Swim, Family Guy, Beavis And Butthead and King Of The Hill just to name a few that aired on television. Let's face it, the audience back in the early to mid 80's are not young anymore, they're in their late 30's to near 40 years old. And today's audience want cartoons that are almost like a PG or R rated style if you know what I mean.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mxcrashxm on 02/20/16 at 6:21 pm


I must be the only person that remember ThunderCats 2011. That show had serious potential. Better not be freakin' cancelled.
No. I remember it as well. It seems like it was only on for one or 2 years.


I could be wrong, but I think mid 90s (93-97ish) babies believe CN declined moreso in 2007 at the time of the Boston bomb scare, rather than earlier 90s (90-93ish) babies who think it died in 2004 because of the logo change and the "meh" newer shows (Puffy Amiyumi, Juniper Lee, Camp lazlo).
I'm part of the second statement. I really feel that it did decline in 2004 after that sudden change in the summer; however, it didn't get worse until the Yes era in 2006. There were some decent shows throughout the City era despite it only being current for almost 2 years. It did break me when that logo was changed. The first one definitely represented the classic era of the Checkerboard and Powerhouse days.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 02/20/16 at 6:45 pm

Question for mxcrashxm or someone else: can you photoshop a bunch of 2000-2005 animated characters into a collage, like those 90s collages?

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/20/16 at 9:24 pm


http://reactiongif.org/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/08/GIF-Haha-No-No-way-Nix-Never-GIF.gif


;)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: muppethammer26 on 02/20/16 at 10:48 pm


Question for mxcrashxm or someone else: can you photoshop a bunch of 2000-2005 animated characters into a collage, like those 90s collages?


You forgot about 2006-2009, so you can try to do the whole 2000s.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/20/16 at 10:57 pm


You forgot about 2006-2009, so you can try to do the whole 2000s.


The reason he only mentioned 2000-2005 is because a lot of people on here who grew up with 2000's cartoons agree that the 2006-2009 ones were very forgettable and lacked the spirit that the 2000-2005 ones had. Even most of the cartoons I loved growing up as a child premiered throughout the late 90's-2005.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/21/16 at 9:15 am


You forgot about 2006-2009, so you can try to do the whole 2000s.


The late 2000s aren't that great compared to the early-mid 2000s. Although, there were some few classics like Class of 3000, Chowder, Flapjack, 6teen, TDI, Making Fiends, and the Mr. Men Show that I liked back in the day.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/21/16 at 2:38 pm


The late 2000s aren't that great compared to the early-mid 2000s. Although, there were some few classics like Class of 3000, Chowder, Flapjack, 6teen, TDI, Making Fiends, and the Mr. Men Show that I liked back in the day.


I snap I forgot about those shows (well except Chowder and Flapjack). I did think they were decent shows.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/21/16 at 2:40 pm


Question for mxcrashxm or someone else: can you photoshop a bunch of 2000-2005 animated characters into a collage, like those 90s collages?


I could do that for ya. Just need everyone to provide me a list of shows they'd want to see. I already have the 30+ shows from 2000-2005. Just need everyone else to pitch in so none is forgotten.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 02/21/16 at 10:12 pm


I could do that for ya. Just need everyone to provide me a list of shows they'd want to see. I already have the 30+ shows from 2000-2005. Just need everyone else to pitch in so none is forgotten.

Add these ones, maybe:
-Family Guy (seasons 1-3 only)
-Mission Hill
-Home Movies
-Futurama

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/21/16 at 10:34 pm


Add these ones, maybe:
-Family Guy (seasons 1-3 only)
-Mission Hill
-Home Movies
-Futurama


They're all from the 1990s, but I can count them as 2000's shows due to them all being in 1999 and having most of their run 2000s. Do you just want a picture with 2000-2005 shows? Or a picture with shows from the entire decade? Even 2006-2009 has some good shows like Phineas and Ferb, Mr Mens Show, Chowder, and Flapback (Most of the collage would be of characters from 2000-2005, but I would include good shows from 2006-2009 if you're okay with that. If not then let me know).

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/21/16 at 11:59 pm

Here is my first shot at the collage of 2000s shows. This image consists of mainly shows from 1999-2005. At first I wasn't sure if I'd use 1999 shows, but I tend to see 1980's shows like Ducktales, Ninja Turtles 1987, Chip n Dale Rescue Rangers etc in 1990's shows collages (despite shows like Ducktales ending most of its episodes the '80s). But anyways here it is. Rate, Comment, Subscribe or whatever people do on forums.

http://oi65.tinypic.com/of7o6a.jpg

Over 30 shows are shown here. All of which are shows people like to talk about when feeling nostalgic for cartoons or just when having discussions on shows that they like. Also it was a bit hard to fit all these toons in this pic. Tried my best to use all visible open spaces.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/22/16 at 12:32 pm

Tisk Tisk, you are missing Tommy and Chuckie, and Arnold, Dexter, Powerpuffgirls, TJ Detwhiler, then it would be perfect!

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 02/22/16 at 12:37 pm


Here is my first shot at the collage of 2000s shows. This image consists of mainly shows from 1999-2005. At first I wasn't sure if I'd use 1999 shows, but I tend to see 1980's shows like Ducktales, Ninja Turtles 1987, Chip n Dale Rescue Rangers etc in 1990's shows collages (despite shows like Ducktales ending most of its episodes the '80s). But anyways here it is. Rate, Comment, Subscribe or whatever people do on forums.

http://oi65.tinypic.com/of7o6a.jpg

Over 30 shows are shown here. All of which are shows people like to talk about when feeling nostalgic for cartoons or just when having discussions on shows that they like. Also it was a bit hard to fit all these toons in this pic. Tried my best to use all visible open spaces.


This is really good! However I don't understand the 1999 cutoff. IMO if a show ran mostly in the 2000's then its a 2000's cartoon, doesn't matter if it first aired in 97', 98' , 99', etc.

So while this is near perfect, there a few other key shows from my childhood that are missing such as, The Powerpuff Girls, Johnny Bravo, Dexter's Lab, The Wild Thorbberry's, The first 5 Seasons of Pokemon, Dragon Ball Z, etc. There are some cartoons like Hey Arnold or CatDog that ran longer in the 2000's, but technically aired more episodes in the 1990's, so those are a bit trickier to pan out.

Other than that, this was a good collage!

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: musicguy93 on 02/22/16 at 12:38 pm


Here is my first shot at the collage of 2000s shows. This image consists of mainly shows from 1999-2005. At first I wasn't sure if I'd use 1999 shows, but I tend to see 1980's shows like Ducktales, Ninja Turtles 1987, Chip n Dale Rescue Rangers etc in 1990's shows collages (despite shows like Ducktales ending most of its episodes the '80s). But anyways here it is. Rate, Comment, Subscribe or whatever people do on forums.

http://oi65.tinypic.com/of7o6a.jpg

Over 30 shows are shown here. All of which are shows people like to talk about when feeling nostalgic for cartoons or just when having discussions on shows that they like. Also it was a bit hard to fit all these toons in this pic. Tried my best to use all visible open spaces.


I know what you mean. If those people can lump the late 80s with the early-mid 90s (and in some cases even late 90s, for some very odd reason), why can't we include the late 90s cartoons with the early-mid 00s cartoons? After all, the late 90s do have more in common with the early 00s than they do with the early-mid 90s. Mid 00s is a bit iffy, but the general consensus is that the late 90s and early 00s are basically the same.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: musicguy93 on 02/22/16 at 12:42 pm


This is really good! However I don't understand the 1999 cutoff. IMO if a show ran mostly in the 2000's then its a 2000's cartoon, doesn't matter if it first aired in 97', 98' , 99', etc.

So while this is near perfect, there a few other key shows from my childhood that are missing such as, The Powerpuff Girls, Johnny Bravo, Dexter's Lab, The Wild Thorbberry's, The first 5 Seasons of Pokemon, Dragon Ball Z, etc. There are some cartoons like Hey Arnold or CatDog that ran longer in the 2000's, but technically aired more episodes in the 1990's, so those are a bit trickier to pan out.

Other than that, this was a good collage!


I agree.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/22/16 at 1:19 pm


This is really good! However I don't understand the 1999 cutoff. IMO if a show ran mostly in the 2000's then its a 2000's cartoon, doesn't matter if it first aired in 97', 98' , 99', etc.

So while this is near perfect, there a few other key shows from my childhood that are missing such as, The Powerpuff Girls, Johnny Bravo, Dexter's Lab, The Wild Thorbberry's, The first 5 Seasons of Pokemon, Dragon Ball Z, etc. There are some cartoons like Hey Arnold or CatDog that ran longer in the 2000's, but technically aired more episodes in the 1990's, so those are a bit trickier to pan out.

Other than that, this was a good collage!


I see Powerpuff Girls, Dexter's Lab, Johnny Bravo, CatDog or Hey Arnold as millennial cartoons. Since it had a mixture of its run in both the late 90's & early 2000's, and most importantly, it's peak, or the best episodes premiered throughout the late 90's to very early 2000's. I can see the Powerpuff Girls as the only one of the group that I agree should have been in the 2000's collage, because the 2nd half of season 2 and onwards premiered in the 2000's, the merchandise and toys were popular throughout the 1st half of the 2000's, and the movie came out in 2002 as well. Heck, the show didn't go off the air until 2005.

As for Dexter's Lab, its peak was the first 2 seasons in the late 90's including the Ego Trip movie in 1999. The last 2 seasons from 2001-2003 while I loved it as a kid, looking back it wasn't as good as the first two. So it's safe to say that Dexter's Lab is a late 90's cartoon. Although, the show still had a lot of viewers and popularity throughout the early 2000's, which is the reason why it was revived in 2001. CatDog and Hey Arnold had most of its episodes in the late 90's too I think, not 100% sure about those.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/22/16 at 1:23 pm


This is really good! However I don't understand the 1999 cutoff. IMO if a show ran mostly in the 2000's then its a 2000's cartoon, doesn't matter if it first aired in 97', 98' , 99', etc.

So while this is near perfect, there a few other key shows from my childhood that are missing such as, The Powerpuff Girls, Johnny Bravo, Dexter's Lab, The Wild Thorbberry's, The first 5 Seasons of Pokemon, Dragon Ball Z, etc. There are some cartoons like Hey Arnold or CatDog that ran longer in the 2000's, but technically aired more episodes in the 1990's, so those are a bit trickier to pan out.

Other than that, this was a good collage!


I agree. I did include some 1999 shows on there like Spongebob, Ed Edd n Eddy, Rocket Power and Stuff. I didn't include the shows you've mention due to running out of space. I need to make a 2nd collage that's bigger or something.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 02/22/16 at 1:23 pm

Catdog and Hey Arnold had most of their episodes in the 90s. However, there were about 8 episodes for both shows that Nick stretched out airing from 2000-2004/5 for some reason.

Recess I would say is much more a 90s cartoon and not really an 00s cartoon, as most of the episodes aired in the 90s. However, it did have a movie in 2001, as well as reruns on Disney Channel from 2003-2005 and again from 2008-2010, which probably kept it "fresh" in the public's eye.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: SpyroKev on 02/22/16 at 1:24 pm


Here is my first shot at the collage of 2000s shows. This image consists of mainly shows from 1999-2005. At first I wasn't sure if I'd use 1999 shows, but I tend to see 1980's shows like Ducktales, Ninja Turtles 1987, Chip n Dale Rescue Rangers etc in 1990's shows collages (despite shows like Ducktales ending most of its episodes the '80s). But anyways here it is. Rate, Comment, Subscribe or whatever people do on forums.

http://oi65.tinypic.com/of7o6a.jpg

Over 30 shows are shown here. All of which are shows people like to talk about when feeling nostalgic for cartoons or just when having discussions on shows that they like. Also it was a bit hard to fit all these toons in this pic. Tried my best to use all visible open spaces.


Ben 10 is actually 2006. Either way, 10/10. Can't wait to see this on Google images. You should have added 1999 or 2000-2005 in the middle if possible.
This is really good! However I don't understand the 1999 cutoff. IMO if a show ran mostly in the 2000's then its a 2000's cartoon, doesn't matter if it first aired in 97', 98' , 99', etc.

So while this is near perfect, there a few other key shows from my childhood that are missing such as, The Powerpuff Girls, Johnny Bravo, Dexter's Lab, The Wild Thorbberry's, The first 5 Seasons of Pokemon, Dragon Ball Z, etc. There are some cartoons like Hey Arnold or CatDog that ran longer in the 2000's, but technically aired more episodes in the 1990's, so those are a bit trickier to pan out.

Other than that, this was a good collage!


You can only fit so many images, but yeah. Pokémon and Dragon Ball Z should have been already in the Cartoon Collage in the making of being filled. 

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 02/22/16 at 1:29 pm


Ben 10 is actually 2006.

According to Wikipedia and IMDb, it's a very late 2005 show.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/22/16 at 1:31 pm


I see Powerpuff Girls, Dexter's Lab, Johnny Bravo, CatDog or Hey Arnold as millennial cartoons. Since it had a mixture of its run in both the late 90's & early 2000's, and most importantly, it's peak, or the best episodes premiered throughout the late 90's to very early 2000's. I can see the Powerpuff Girls as the only one of the group that I agree should have been in the 2000's collage, because the 2nd half of season 2 and onwards premiered in the 2000's, the merchandise and toys were popular throughout the 1st half of the 2000's, and the movie came out in 2002 as well. Heck, the show didn't go off the air until 2005.

As for Dexter's Lab, its peak was the first 2 seasons in the late 90's including the Ego Trip movie in 1999. The last 2 seasons from 2001-2003 while I loved it as a kid, looking back it wasn't as good as the first two. So it's safe to say that Dexter's Lab is a late 90's cartoon. Although, the show still had a lot of viewers and popularity throughout the early 2000's, which is the reason why it was revived in 2001. CatDog and Hey Arnold had most of its episodes in the late 90's too I think, not 100% sure about those.


CatDog/Hey Arnold had most of their run in the late '90s. Shows like Hey Arnold only had 1 season in the '00s. Johnny Bravo had most of its run in the early '00s. Same for Powerpuff Girls. There are other shows that started in the lat '90s, but had most of their run in the early '00s like Batman Beyond, Courage the Cowardly Dog, Mike, Lu & Og etc. I didn't put them in the collage due to running low on space. I'll make another one if you guys wish.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/22/16 at 1:36 pm


http://oi65.tinypic.com/of7o6a.jpg


Another thing I noticed is that a lot of the characters in these collages are quintessential 2000's cartoons. It's 2000's cartoons that almost ALL true 2000's kids can relate with. House of Mouse lasted from 2001-2003, but plenty of reruns were still played on Toon Disney and Disney Channel throughout the rest of the 2000's. Justice League and Unlimited lasted from 2001-2006. Kim Possible lasted from 2002-2007. Teen Titans lasted from 2003-2006, but reruns were still played on Cartoon Network until 2007. Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends lasted from 2004-2008. Ed, Edd n Eddy lasted from 1999-2009. Fairly Odd Parents peaked from 2001-2006. Spongebob Squarepants peaked from 1999-2004 but still remained popular throughout the rest of the 2000's and still goes on today. Danny Phantom lasted from 2004-2007. Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy lasted from 2001-2008, but peaked from 2003-2007. Duck Dodgers lasted from 2003-2005. Time Squad lasted from 2001-2004. Xiaolin Showdown lasted from 2003-2006 but reruns were played on CN throughout 2006 & 2007. Codename: KND lasted from late 2002-2008. Lilo & Stitch: The Series lasted from 2003-2006. Jimmy Neutron lasted from 2002-2006. Samurai Jack lasted from 2001-2004. Ben 10 lasted from 2005-2008. Jackie Chan Adventures lasted from 2000-2005. Avatar: The Last Airbender lasted from 2005-2008. Liberty Kids lasted from 2002-2003, but reruns were still played on PBS Kids daily until 2006.

I could go on and on, but this was a great collage IMO for the most important cartoons that all types of 2000's kids could remember. Chowder or Flapjack couldn't be in here since it's only memorable by kids of the late 2000's, while I could see why Powerpuff Girls or Hey Arnold weren't in here since those are millennial, and are only memorable by kids of the early 2000's.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/22/16 at 1:36 pm


I know what you mean. If those people can lump the late 80s with the early-mid 90s (and in some cases even late 90s, for some very odd reason), why can't we include the late 90s cartoons with the early-mid 00s cartoons? After all, the late 90s do have more in common with the early 00s than they do with the early-mid 90s. Mid 00s is a bit iffy, but the general consensus is that the late 90s and early 00s are basically the same.


I agree. To me shows from the late '90s and '00s have the same vibe. And yeah I see people break the rules by having late '80s shows and grouping them with early-mid '90s shows and saying "These are all '90s cartoons". So I did the same thing with my collage.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/22/16 at 1:38 pm


You can only fit so many images, but yeah. Pokémon and Dragon Ball Z should have been already in the Cartoon Collage in the making of being filled.


Pokemon and Dragon Ball Z are millennial cartoons IMO, and weren't quintessential to the main 2000's cartoons. Only early 2000's kids grew up with Pokemon and Dragon Ball Z during its peak. However, I agree it wouldn't have been a problem including those in the collage.

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Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/22/16 at 1:39 pm

Didn't Hey Arnold come out with a movie in 2002? I think I took the munchkin cousins of mine to go see it.


I know what you mean. If those people can lump the late 80s with the early-mid 90s (and in some cases even late 90s, for some very odd reason), why can't we include the late 90s cartoons with the early-mid 00s cartoons? After all, the late 90s do have more in common with the early 00s than they do with the early-mid 90s. Mid 00s is a bit iffy, but the general consensus is that the late 90s and early 00s are basically the same.


I agree with the general consensus! ;D

Also, nice work sneaking in Robot Jones, Toon. That show reeks of the Y2K era with how weird it was. Oh sh!t! You added Pelswick, too! Once again, I smell the Y2K. I gotta watch those two shows again. Man, they were odd.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/22/16 at 2:20 pm


Ben 10 is actually 2006. Either way, 10/10. Can't wait to see this on Google images. You should have added 1999 or 2000-2005 in the middle if possible.
You can only fit so many images, but yeah. Pokémon and Dragon Ball Z should have been already in the Cartoon Collage in the making of being filled.

I wanted to have "1999/2000-2005" in the middle, but I ran low on space. I may make another version.  Pokemon and DBZ are shows I ended up forgetting by mistake. If a may another one someone needs to provide a list of all the cartoons that should be added. I wanted to add other shows like Beyblade, Digimon, Yu Gi Oh etc as well.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/22/16 at 2:32 pm


Didn't Hey Arnold come out with a movie in 2002? I think I took the munchkin cousins of mine to go see it.
Also, nice work sneaking in Robot Jones, Toon. That show reeks of the Y2K era with how weird it was. Oh sh!t! You added Pelswick, too! Once again, I smell the Y2K. I gotta watch those two shows again. Man, they were odd.


I loved Robot Jones and Pelswick. They're very Y2K to the point where neither show even made it past 2003 (Pelswick ended in late 2002. Robot Jones ended in late 2003). They were some pretty odd shows. I'd group 'em in with shows like Invader Zim that just gave off that odd vibe.  ;D

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/22/16 at 2:40 pm


Another thing I noticed is that a lot of the characters in these collages are quintessential 2000's cartoons. It's 2000's cartoons that almost ALL true 2000's kids can relate with. House of Mouse lasted from 2001-2003, but plenty of reruns were still played on Toon Disney and Disney Channel throughout the rest of the 2000's. Justice League and Unlimited lasted from 2001-2006. Kim Possible lasted from 2002-2007. Teen Titans lasted from 2003-2006, but reruns were still played on Cartoon Network until 2007. Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends lasted from 2004-2008. Ed, Edd n Eddy lasted from 1999-2009. Fairly Odd Parents peaked from 2001-2006. Spongebob Squarepants peaked from 1999-2004 but still remained popular throughout the rest of the 2000's and still goes on today. Danny Phantom lasted from 2004-2007. Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy lasted from 2001-2008, but peaked from 2003-2007. Duck Dodgers lasted from 2003-2005. Time Squad lasted from 2001-2004. Xiaolin Showdown lasted from 2003-2006 but reruns were played on CN throughout 2006 & 2007. Codename: KND lasted from late 2002-2008. Lilo & Stitch: The Series lasted from 2003-2006. Jimmy Neutron lasted from 2002-2006. Samurai Jack lasted from 2001-2004. Ben 10 lasted from 2005-2008. Jackie Chan Adventures lasted from 2000-2005. Avatar: The Last Airbender lasted from 2005-2008. Liberty Kids lasted from 2002-2003, but reruns were still played on PBS Kids daily until 2006.

I could go on and on, but this was a great collage IMO for the most important cartoons that all types of 2000's kids could remember. Chowder or Flapjack couldn't be in here since it's only memorable by kids of the late 2000's, while I could see why Powerpuff Girls or Hey Arnold weren't in here since those are millennial, and are only memorable by kids of the early 2000's.


Thanks.  8) I tried my best to include shows that a majority of people who grew up in the 2000s would remember. Whether it was a show that ran for a good amount of years into the 2000s or shows that mainly aired in the early '00s, but had reruns (shows like House of Mouse ended in 2003, but had reruns up to 2009 where Toon Disney finally ended). I wanted to include shows like Phineas and Ferb, Flapjack, and Chowder. But Phineas and Ferb can be said to be more of a 10's show due to airing up to 2015 (it started in 2007 so it can be  a late '00s/early '10s hybrid). But if I was ever going to talk about shows that aired throughout the entire '00s then I'd include them. Anyways I'm thinking of giving the collage another shot in order to include shows that I missed due to either running out of space or forgetting about them. Any show you'd like to see include just let me know.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: violet_shy on 02/22/16 at 2:43 pm

My 3 year old niece...yeah I guess I can call her that, she watches a lot of today's cartoons and kids shows like Bubble Guppies, Paw Patrol, Alvin & The Chipmunks, and Sophia the 1st. She loves them so I guess I would have to be a toddler to say, lol.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/22/16 at 2:45 pm


I loved Robot Jones and Pelswick. They're very Y2K to the point where neither show even made it past 2003 (Pelswick ended in late 2002. Robot Jones ended in late 2003). They were some pretty odd shows. I'd group 'em in with shows like Invader Zim that just gave off that odd vibe.  ;D


Haha, definitely. Shows like that definitely could not have made it after 2003 at all. Just they're too odd and out-of-the-ordinary for that vibe. I swear, it's was like watching some sort of acid trip or something! Robot Jones was especially odd thanks to the way it's animated. Of course, Invader Zim had all that early 00's CGI and industrial soundtrack to make it especially odd (and very much early 00's. Kinda like Batman Beyond). 

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/22/16 at 2:53 pm


Here is my first shot at the collage of 2000s shows. This image consists of mainly shows from 1999-2005. At first I wasn't sure if I'd use 1999 shows, but I tend to see 1980's shows like Ducktales, Ninja Turtles 1987, Chip n Dale Rescue Rangers etc in 1990's shows collages (despite shows like Ducktales ending most of its episodes the '80s). But anyways here it is. Rate, Comment, Subscribe or whatever people do on forums.

http://oi65.tinypic.com/of7o6a.jpg

Over 30 shows are shown here. All of which are shows people like to talk about when feeling nostalgic for cartoons or just when having discussions on shows that they like. Also it was a bit hard to fit all these toons in this pic. Tried my best to use all visible open spaces.


Really nice. There are a lot of shows that I used to watch back then in that collage.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: SpyroKev on 02/22/16 at 3:07 pm


Pokemon and Dragon Ball Z are millennial cartoons IMO, and weren't quintessential to the main 2000's cartoons. Only early 2000's kids grew up with Pokemon and Dragon Ball Z during its peak. However, I agree it wouldn't have been a problem including those in the collage.


I can agree with that. Dragon Ball Z basically felt non existent through 2004-2006. The series spirit is definitely with the Early 2000s. If you live in America, there is no Dragon Ball Z without the American soundtrack version.
According to Wikipedia and IMDb, it's a very late 2005 show.


Yeah, but the cartoon collage is 1999, 2000-2005, right? The Ben 10 series is more late 2000s.
I wanted to have "1999/2000-2005" in the middle, but I ran low on space. I may make another version.  Pokemon and DBZ are shows I ended up forgetting by mistake. If a may another one someone needs to provide a list of all the cartoons that should be added. I wanted to add other shows like Beyblade, Digimon, Yu Gi Oh etc as well.


I understand choosing is a tough challenge. Heck, there is most likely already cartoon colleges with Yu-Gi-Oh, Beyblade, Digimon, Dragon Ball Z and Pokémon.

If you make a separate version, Please, man. The Proud Family needs to be in there.

As far as the space, your 2000s cartoon collage will probably just come off as a favorite cartoon college without a tag. You can make the numbers small. I recommend it, man. Including 1999, 2000-2005 would make it feel official.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/22/16 at 3:17 pm

Woah! I just noticed Futurama and Home Movies! Hahaha, this collage gets radder and radder the more I look at it.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/22/16 at 3:19 pm


I understand choosing is a tough challenge. Heck, there is most likely already cartoon colleges with Yu-Gi-Oh, Beyblade, Digimon, Dragon Ball Z and Pokémon.

If you make a separate version, Please, man. The Proud Family needs to be in there.

As far as the space, your 2000s cartoon collage will probably just come off as a favorite cartoon college without a tag. You can make the numbers small. I recommend it, man. Including 1999, 2000-2005 would make it feel official.


What I'll do is to try and make a bigger image with more space. That way I can fit in more shows and include the 2000-2005 tag in the middle. Also how the heck did I forget about Proud Family?! :o

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 02/22/16 at 3:26 pm

If you want to add more characters, Wikipedia has a list of cartoons that started in every year so you don't forget some.

If you make another collage, can you try to separate the characters a bit and not clump them on top of one another so much, so that you can see all of them well? Maybe do them in rows, like this:
http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/content/characters/poster/full.jpg

Also, I know this might be ego-stroking, but maybe you can post it on Facebook, Twitter, or...*gulp*, 9gag? This would spread the message that 2000-2005 was way different/better from 2006-2009, and might get people to stop lumping 00-05 in with "90s".

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/22/16 at 3:28 pm


Haha, definitely. Shows like that definitely could not have made it after 2003 at all. Just they're too odd and out-of-the-ordinary for that vibe. I swear, it's was like watching some sort of acid trip or something! Robot Jones was especially odd thanks to the way it's animated. Of course, Invader Zim had all that early 00's CGI and industrial soundtrack to make it especially odd (and very much early 00's. Kinda like Batman Beyond).


I did not like What Ever Happened to Robot Jones when I was younger, in fact, it was my least favorite Cartoon Cartoon of all the ones I vividly remember. It bored me for some reason, but I heard that the series had somewhat of an 80's feel to it.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/22/16 at 3:28 pm


Haha, definitely. Shows like that definitely could not have made it after 2003 at all. Just they're too odd and out-of-the-ordinary for that vibe. I swear, it's was like watching some sort of acid trip or something! Robot Jones was especially odd thanks to the way it's animated. Of course, Invader Zim had all that early 00's CGI and industrial soundtrack to make it especially odd (and very much early 00's. Kinda like Batman Beyond).

They sure do have crazy art/animation styles that's for sure. I love the Y2K era shows due to how weird they are.


Woah! I just noticed Futurama and Home Movies! Hahaha, this collage gets radder and radder the more I look at it.


I originally forgot about those shows, but as I remembered I ended up putting them in. You'll see some characters hiding in little places.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/22/16 at 3:34 pm


If you want to add more characters, Wikipedia has a list of cartoons that started in every year so you don't forget some.

If you make another collage, can you try to separate the characters a bit and not clump them on top of one another so much, so that you can see all of them well? Maybe do them in rows, like this:
http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/content/characters/poster/full.jpg

Also, I know this might be ego-stroking, but maybe you can post it on Facebook, Twitter, or...*gulp*, 9gag? This would spread the message that 2000-2005 was way different/better from 2006-2009, and might get people to stop lumping 00-05 in with "90s".


As mentioned before due to spacing limitations certain characters are placed on top of each other. With more spacing I should be able to fix that. Now it's also depends on the image itself that effects on how I'd place them. Certain characters are in certain spots due to not working as well in other spots. And I didn't want to leave too many empty spaces. I mainly just used online cartoon collages as a reference. As for posting it in other places that wasn't something I planned to do, but if you guys want to use the images in other places then feel free to do so.  8)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/22/16 at 3:36 pm


They sure do have crazy art/animation styles that's for sure. I love the Y2K era shows due to how weird they are.

I originally forgot about those shows, but as I remembered I ended up putting them in. You'll see some characters hiding in little places.


Haha, me too! All the cartoons back then had a weird Prozzak vibe.

If you decide to make another collage you should do one for the Y2K era (and add a tag in the middle that says Y2K ERA: 1998-2002/2003 or something) and compile cartoons, movies and music from roughly 1997/1998-2002/2003. Shows like Mission Hill, The Undergrads, The Oblongs, Clone High would be perfect for this!


I did not like What Ever Happened to Robot Jones when I was younger, in fact, it was my least favorite Cartoon Cartoon of all the ones I vividly remember. It bored me for some reason, but I heard that the series had somewhat of an 80's feel to it.


I thought it was pretty rad when it came out. The animation is 80's-early 90's but the wacky, nonsensical vibe is very of it's time.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/22/16 at 3:39 pm


http://oi65.tinypic.com/of7o6a.jpg


I also have your collage as my desktop background, since it looks really cool.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/22/16 at 3:42 pm


Haha, me too! All the cartoons back then had a weird Prozzak vibe.

If you decide to make another collage you should do one for the Y2K era (and add a tag in the middle that says Y2K ERA: 1998-2002/2003 or something) and compile cartoons, movies and music from roughly 1997/1998-2002/2003. Shows like Mission Hill, The Undergrads, The Oblongs, Clone High would be perfect for this!


If I ever do a Y2K era collage I'd probably also put more than cartoons on there. Add things like video games, fashion, bands, cartoons, food, famous actors, technology etc. Have an entire cultural era represented in 1 pic.  ;D And I'll be sure to include Mission Hill, Undergrads, Oblongs, and Clone High next time.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/22/16 at 3:46 pm


I thought it was pretty rad when it came out. The animation is 80's-early 90's but the wacky, nonsensical vibe is very of it's time.


Ed, Edd n Eddy, Dexter's Laboratory, and Powerpuff Girls will always be my top 3 Cartoon Cartoons, which are included in 3 of my 5 top Cartoon Network shows of all time. Codename: KND, Johnny Bravo, and Courage the Cowardly Dog are very honorable mentions. Time Squad and Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy are not my favorites but those are up there for sure. I did not like What Ever Happened to Robot Jones as I already stated, and I honestly don't remember watching the rest vividly enough.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/22/16 at 3:47 pm


If I ever do a Y2K era collage I'd probably also put more than cartoons on there. Add things like video games, fashion, bands, cartoons, food, famous actors, technology etc. Have an entire cultural era represented in 1 pic.  ;D And I'll be sure to include Mission Hill, Undergrads, Oblongs, and Clone High next time.


A millennial cartoon collage would be cool too. I'd combine it with the 2000's one you just created!

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/22/16 at 3:49 pm


I also have your collage as my desktop background, since it looks really cool.


Nice!  8) Sometime down the line I'd probably make a desktop wallpaper that include all 2000s cartoon whether  they're from the late '90s-'late '00s.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 02/22/16 at 3:49 pm

Hey @Toon, for your next collage these are some of the 2000's cartoons I think you should include:

Powerpuff Girls

Johnny Bravo

The Wild Thornberrys

Dragon Ball Z

Pokemon (especially the first 5 or so seasons)

YuGiOh

Sonic X

Naruto

Yu Yu Hakusho

Ruroni Kenshin

Arthur

Dave the Barbarian

Megas XLR

IGPX

&

Courage the Cowardly Dog

This may cause some issues with room and such but I think if you were to try Zelek's suggestion of doing it rows, that you may be able to fit all of this, among other suggestions on this forum! Also another request would be to possibly include logos for various cartoon blocks and channels during most (or a good chunk) of the 2000's. So for instance:

Nickelodeon:
http://dab1nmslvvntp.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/before.png

Cartoon Network:
http://img13.deviantart.net/6e7b/i/2012/182/6/1/cartoon_network_checkerboard_logo__1992__by_miggygarcia-d55jy7n.png

Disney Channel:
http://cib.konnecta2.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/disney-channel-logo-680x390.jpg

Kids WB
http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz7x5ob5421qa0xnuo3_1280.jpg

ABC Kids
http://www.toonzone.net/shows/images/abckids/logo.gif

Toon Disney
http://4vector.com/i/free-vector-toon-disney-channel_041075_toon-disney-channel.png

YTV
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120204031803/logopedia/images/e/e7/YTVlogo3.png


Maybe you could use the labels above as borders for the picture itself!

Anyways I hope you take my advice, along with many others on this forum, so we could make a kickass Noughties Era Throwback  8)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/22/16 at 3:50 pm


If I ever do a Y2K era collage I'd probably also put more than cartoons on there. Add things like video games, fashion, bands, cartoons, food, famous actors, technology etc. Have an entire cultural era represented in 1 pic.  ;D And I'll be sure to include Mission Hill, Undergrads, Oblongs, and Clone High next time.


I like the sound of that! Everything's going to either be Xtreme! or make absolutely no sense whatsoever. It'll be pretty rad!


Ed, Edd n Eddy, Dexter's Laboratory, and Powerpuff Girls will always be my top 3 Cartoon Cartoons, which are included in 3 of my 5 top Cartoon Network shows of all time. Codename: KND, Johnny Bravo, and Courage the Cowardly Dog are very honorable mentions. Time Squad and Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy are not my favorites but those are up there for sure. I did not like What Ever Happened to Robot Jones as I already stated, and I honestly don't remember watching the rest vividly enough.


Out of all of those I've seen Dexter's, Johnny Bravo, Powerpuff Girls (yes, yes, laugh it up), Grim and Evil (the original before Billy and Mandy), and Courage. My favorite Cartoon shows from CN were definitely Dexter's and Johnny Bravo. I really liked Robot Jones. I thought it was good wacky fun.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/22/16 at 4:30 pm


Hey @Toon, for your next collage these are some of the 2000's cartoons I think you should include:

Powerpuff Girls

Johnny Bravo

The Wild Thornberrys

Dragon Ball Z

Pokemon (especially the first 5 or so seasons)

YuGiOh

Sonic X

Naruto

Yu Yu Hakusho

Ruroni Kenshin

Arthur

Dave the Barbarian

Megas XLR

IGPX

&

Courage the Cowardly Dog

This may cause some issues with room and such but I think if you were to try Zelek's suggestion of doing it rows, that you may be able to fit all of this, among other suggestions on this forum! Also another request would be to possibly include logos for various cartoon blocks and channels during most (or a good chunk) of the 2000's. So for instance:

Nickelodeon:
http://dab1nmslvvntp.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/before.png

Cartoon Network:
http://img13.deviantart.net/6e7b/i/2012/182/6/1/cartoon_network_checkerboard_logo__1992__by_miggygarcia-d55jy7n.png

Disney Channel:
http://cib.konnecta2.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/disney-channel-logo-680x390.jpg

Kids WB
http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz7x5ob5421qa0xnuo3_1280.jpg

ABC Kids
http://www.toonzone.net/shows/images/abckids/logo.gif

Toon Disney
http://4vector.com/i/free-vector-toon-disney-channel_041075_toon-disney-channel.png

YTV
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120204031803/logopedia/images/e/e7/YTVlogo3.png


Maybe you could use the labels above as borders for the picture itself!

Anyways I hope you take my advice, along with many others on this forum, so we could make a kickass Noughties Era Throwback  8)


Looks like I'm going to have to make a BIG image then. Especially if I'm ever going to fit all that in there. At the moment I'm a tad busy with something, but later one I'll get around to making the image. I'll be sure to take all of your requests/advice when making the image. A Noughties era throwback would be cool. Although to make the ultimate Noughties image I may include everyone cultural thing about the 2000s instead of just cartoons, but for now I'll just focus on the cartoons.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 02/22/16 at 5:13 pm

You should just make it 2000-2005 cartoons, imo. Adding all this 00s culture would make it unwieldy.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/22/16 at 5:18 pm

I think Toon should do 1998-2002. That is the ...ahem... 2nd GOAT era (tied with the real 90s. The 80's, of course, are the number 1 GOAT).

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/22/16 at 5:30 pm


I think Toon should do 1998-2002. That is the ...ahem... 2nd GOAT era (tied with the real 90s. The 80's, of course, are the number 1 GOAT).


For cartoons, the only thing that comes close to Y2K era is the mid-90s :P 80s is not even contention.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/22/16 at 6:11 pm


For cartoons, the only thing that comes close to Y2K era is the mid-90s :P 80s is not even contention.


I am talking about society in general. The 80's was the peak of humanity. The real 90's and Y2K era (1993-2003) was almost as good but will never be as GOAT as the 80's (1981-1992) were.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/22/16 at 7:57 pm

Oh okay, I can understand why Rugrats, Recess, Dexter and Hey Arnold weren't on there. They would only be remembered by millennium era and early 00s kids like myself.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/22/16 at 8:41 pm

Many cartoons I  like to associate with 2000-2004/05!
http://img09.deviantart.net/6641/i/2009/313/2/7/nicktoons_collage_by_astep2stage18.jpg http://img09.deviantart.net/f8f2/i/2011/186/9/0/cartoon_cartoons___color_by_ssgba1380-d25yiwc.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1skq3Lwy31r1or7jo10_500.pnghttp://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/shows/banner_186.jpg

http://nicecoloringpages.xyz/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/One-Piece.jpg http://img15.deviantart.net/23fd/i/2009/297/f/2/toonami_10_best_by_j_rad306.png


http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130818040712/disney/images/6/64/One_Saturday_Morning.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpxqkjFNEw1r1yfzyo1_500.gifhttp://www-tc.pbskids.org/bates/pbskids/shell/images/content/shows/cyberchase.jpg?size=medium https://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_log1uoosTH1qhi766o1_500.png http://i.ytimg.com/vi/QX0a0aQz8R8/maxresdefault.jpg http://www.animationmagazine.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/Libertys-Kids-post.jpg

http://www.thewebsiteofdoom.com/new/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/tumblr_inline_n2ad63BHxH1qgp297.jpg http://www.sonicstadium.org/wp-content/gallery/sonic-x/sonic_eng.pnghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Beyblade_Logo.png

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HmVFSx5ZrfA/maxresdefault.jpg http://worldsoccertalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Yu-Gi-Oh.jpg

http://orig10.deviantart.net/948d/f/2015/246/7/d/kids__wb_from_my_childhood__1990_2006__by_craigs1996-d989qwu.jpg

https://kidzshowz.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/the-proud-family-7.jpg?w=720&h=540 http://geekin-out.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/kimpossible.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/Brandy%26Mr.WhiskersTitleCard.jpg]http://https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lokcb9NJUf1qbbw9to1_1311049686_cover.pnghttps://themonthlyspew.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/fosters-fosters-home-for-imaginary-friends-9252552-570-370.jpg http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_RG_WvuMLXw/hqdefault.jpghttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/scratchpad/images/e/e4/Totally_Spies!.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150522224709http://www.pariscine.com/sites/default/files/affiches_series_tv/code_lyoko.jpg

http://www.bubbleblabber.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/adult-swim-post.jpg

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 02/22/16 at 9:36 pm


Many cartoons I  like to associate with 2000-2004/05!
http://img09.deviantart.net/6641/i/2009/313/2/7/nicktoons_collage_by_astep2stage18.jpg http://img09.deviantart.net/f8f2/i/2011/186/9/0/cartoon_cartoons___color_by_ssgba1380-d25yiwc.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1skq3Lwy31r1or7jo10_500.pnghttp://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/shows/banner_186.jpg

http://nicecoloringpages.xyz/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/One-Piece.jpg http://img15.deviantart.net/23fd/i/2009/297/f/2/toonami_10_best_by_j_rad306.png


http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130818040712/disney/images/6/64/One_Saturday_Morning.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpxqkjFNEw1r1yfzyo1_500.gifhttp://www-tc.pbskids.org/bates/pbskids/shell/images/content/shows/cyberchase.jpg?size=medium https://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_log1uoosTH1qhi766o1_500.png http://i.ytimg.com/vi/QX0a0aQz8R8/maxresdefault.jpg http://www.animationmagazine.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/Libertys-Kids-post.jpg

http://www.thewebsiteofdoom.com/new/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/tumblr_inline_n2ad63BHxH1qgp297.jpg http://www.sonicstadium.org/wp-content/gallery/sonic-x/sonic_eng.pnghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Beyblade_Logo.png

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HmVFSx5ZrfA/maxresdefault.jpg http://worldsoccertalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Yu-Gi-Oh.jpg

http://orig10.deviantart.net/948d/f/2015/246/7/d/kids__wb_from_my_childhood__1990_2006__by_craigs1996-d989qwu.jpg

https://kidzshowz.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/the-proud-family-7.jpg?w=720&h=540 http://geekin-out.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/kimpossible.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/Brandy%26Mr.WhiskersTitleCard.jpg]http://https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lokcb9NJUf1qbbw9to1_1311049686_cover.pnghttps://themonthlyspew.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/fosters-fosters-home-for-imaginary-friends-9252552-570-370.jpg http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_RG_WvuMLXw/hqdefault.jpghttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/scratchpad/images/e/e4/Totally_Spies!.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150522224709http://www.pariscine.com/sites/default/files/affiches_series_tv/code_lyoko.jpg

http://www.bubbleblabber.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/adult-swim-post.jpg


Yeah this is 100% Accurate 8)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 02/22/16 at 11:29 pm

Looking at those collages Eazy-EMAN posted, it's very clear to see that 2000-2005 rocked and 2006-2009 sucked — and I know Jordan will dispute that run by two years. ;D

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 10:26 am


Looking at those collages Eazy-EMAN posted, it's very clear to see that 2000-2005 rocked and 2006-2009 sucked — and I know Jordan will dispute that run by two years. ;D


Yes, I will. ;)

2000-2002 - the GOAT (concerning 20XX years) and shouldn't even be called 2000's years.
2003 - Pretty good but not great and will live in the shadow of 2000-2002 forever.
2004-2005 - The awful real 2000's. Bad, bad, bad.

You guys were all kids during the real 2000's and I dunno what it was like to be a kid back then but maybe that's why you like it so much. Being a young adult? Terrible times. 8-P

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/23/16 at 12:47 pm


Many cartoons I  like to associate with 2000-2004/05!
http://img09.deviantart.net/6641/i/2009/313/2/7/nicktoons_collage_by_astep2stage18.jpg http://img09.deviantart.net/f8f2/i/2011/186/9/0/cartoon_cartoons___color_by_ssgba1380-d25yiwc.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1skq3Lwy31r1or7jo10_500.pnghttp://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/shows/banner_186.jpg

http://nicecoloringpages.xyz/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/One-Piece.jpg http://img15.deviantart.net/23fd/i/2009/297/f/2/toonami_10_best_by_j_rad306.png


http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130818040712/disney/images/6/64/One_Saturday_Morning.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpxqkjFNEw1r1yfzyo1_500.gifhttp://www-tc.pbskids.org/bates/pbskids/shell/images/content/shows/cyberchase.jpg?size=medium https://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_log1uoosTH1qhi766o1_500.png http://i.ytimg.com/vi/QX0a0aQz8R8/maxresdefault.jpg http://www.animationmagazine.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/Libertys-Kids-post.jpg

http://www.thewebsiteofdoom.com/new/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/tumblr_inline_n2ad63BHxH1qgp297.jpg http://www.sonicstadium.org/wp-content/gallery/sonic-x/sonic_eng.pnghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Beyblade_Logo.png

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HmVFSx5ZrfA/maxresdefault.jpg http://worldsoccertalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Yu-Gi-Oh.jpg

http://orig10.deviantart.net/948d/f/2015/246/7/d/kids__wb_from_my_childhood__1990_2006__by_craigs1996-d989qwu.jpg

https://kidzshowz.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/the-proud-family-7.jpg?w=720&h=540 http://geekin-out.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/kimpossible.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/Brandy%26Mr.WhiskersTitleCard.jpg]http://https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lokcb9NJUf1qbbw9to1_1311049686_cover.pnghttps://themonthlyspew.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/fosters-fosters-home-for-imaginary-friends-9252552-570-370.jpg http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_RG_WvuMLXw/hqdefault.jpghttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/scratchpad/images/e/e4/Totally_Spies!.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150522224709http://www.pariscine.com/sites/default/files/affiches_series_tv/code_lyoko.jpg

http://www.bubbleblabber.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/adult-swim-post.jpg


I grew up with ALL of those except for some anime and the FOX/4Kids TV shows.

Even though I've known about since I started watching Cartoon Network regularly, my parents forbid me from watching that channel throughout my childhood unless I was able to catch it with my dad sometimes. Robot Chicken was hilarious to me throughout middle school and I loved watching Boondocks throughout middle school and early high school as well, but I still watch today for Mike Tyson Mysteries or Parasyte sometimes. I hear that Bob's Burgers and Rick & Morty are awesome as well. has always had some really good shows or some really mediocre, awful ones. Loiter Squad, Squidbillies, and Moral Orel were either stupid or gave you brain cancer.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 3:17 pm


Looking at those collages Eazy-EMAN posted, it's very clear to see that 2000-2005 rocked and 2006-2009 sucked — and I know Jordan will dispute that run by two years. ;D


Imma dispute it too :P

Y2K era (1998-early 2003) was a different cartoon era from the mid 2000s (2004/2005).

Still great collages though, good job guys ;)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 3:37 pm


Imma dispute it too :P

Y2K era (1998-early 2003) was a different cartoon era from the mid 2000s (2004/2005).

Still great collages though, good job guys ;)


Slowpoke doesn't mean what he says. He's actually a HUGE fan of cartoons from 2006-2009.  ;)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/23/16 at 3:39 pm


Imma dispute it too :P

Y2K era (1998-early 2003) was a different cartoon era from the mid 2000s (2004/2005).

Still great collages though, good job guys ;)



I would say the 1998-2002 Y2K era was different for kid channels than 2004 and 2005, but the cartoons that began throughout 2000-2004 didn't feel much different though, with 2001 being the best year.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 3:44 pm



I would say the 1998-2002 Y2K era was different for kid channels than 2004 and 2005, but the cartoons that began throughout 2000-2004 didn't feel much different though, with 2001 being the best year.


Loved 2001 when it comes to cartoons. Kids WB was good. Cartoon Network was good. Nickelodeon was good. Disney Channel was good. Boomerang was good. Toon Disney was good. Disney's One Saturday Morning was good. Everything was nice.  8)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 3:50 pm


Slowpoke doesn't mean what he says. He's actually a HUGE fan of cartoons from 2006-2009.  ;)


Yeah, SlowpokeMc2001 loves all things 2004-onward. He is a huge, huge fan of the mid-late 00's.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 3:58 pm


Slowpoke doesn't mean what he says. He's actually a HUGE fan of cartoons from 2006-2009.  ;)


I liked Phineas and Ferb, which I think aired late 2005 right? I think I also watched Death Note in 2006 or 2007. It was the Japanese version though. So I guess you're not completely wrong  ;D I hold no strong opinions either way, I just didn't like late 2003/2004 in cartoons.  >:(



I would say the 1998-2002 Y2K era was different for kid channels than 2004 and 2005, but the cartoons that began throughout 2000-2004 didn't feel much different though, with 2001 being the best year.


I see where you're coming from. Some shows like Samurai Jack and the Cramp Twins felt like they were made for 2004 (to use Early90sGuy logic) despite airing in 2001.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/23/16 at 3:59 pm


Loved 2001 when it comes to cartoons. Kids WB was good. Cartoon Network was good. Nickelodeon was good. Disney Channel was good. Boomerang was good. Toon Disney was good. Disney's One Saturday Morning was good. Everything was nice.  8)


Of course 2001 & 2002 were the best year for kid channels cartoon wise due to the variety at the time, but I was referring to when cartoons of the 2000's decade first came out, and the reason I think 2001 was the best is because it had Shrek, Jimmy Neutron, Samurai Jack, Justice League, The Proud Family, Time Squad, Fairly Odd Parents, Invader Zim, etc. That was an epic year in that part, but 2000 and 2002-2004 were really good years as well.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 4:02 pm


Yeah, SlowpokeMc2001 loves all things 2004-onward. He is a huge, huge fan of the mid-late 00's.


Those years are your time man. You were 22-24  ;D 11-13 isn't the same.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/23/16 at 4:03 pm


I liked Phineas and Ferb, which I think aired late 2005 right? I think I also watched Death Note in 2006 or 2007. It was the Japanese version though. So I guess you're not completely wrong  ;D I hold no strong opinions either way, I just didn't like late 2003/2004 in cartoons.  >:(


Hahahahaha!!!! Phineas & Ferb's pilot aired in 2007 and the series officially started in 2008.

Anyways, you mean you didn't like late 2003/2004 for your favorite kid channels. Late 2003 and 2004 was great for cartoons. Never heard of Teen Titans, Duck Dodgers, Megas XLR, Danny Phantom, Justice League Unlimited, or Dave the Barbarian being called bad before. Go look at the late 2005/2006 cartoons and the others I mentioned sounded heavenly compared to those.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 02/23/16 at 4:06 pm

Personally, I would lump 2004-2005 in with 2000-2003 because the "show landscape" was pretty similar.

In addition to great new shows like Megas XLR and Avatar: The last airbender, "oldies" that were popular in the Y2K era — such as Xiaolin Showdown, Samurai Jack, Teen Titans, Star wars: clone wars, Rugrats, pre-cancellation Family Guy, Sealab 2021, Home movies, Recess, or Fillmore! — were either airing new episodes or having prominent enough reruns, keeping them "fresh" in the public's eye.

By 2006, all of those Y2K era shows - new episodes, reruns, or otherwise - were pretty much gone, replaced with dreaded new shows like Squirrel Boy, My Gym Partner's a Monkey, and Mr. Meaty.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 4:10 pm


Hahahahaha!!!! Phineas & Ferb's pilot aired in 2007 and the series officially started in 2008.

Anyways, you mean you didn't like late 2003/2004 for your favorite kid channels. Late 2003 and 2004 was great for cartoons. Never heard of Teen Titans, Duck Dodgers, Megas XLR, Danny Phantom, Justice League Unlimited, or Dave the Barbarian being called bad before. Go look at the late 2005/2006 cartoons and the others I mentioned sounded heavenly compared to those.


I hated most those shows. Especially Megas XLR and Danny Phantom  ;D Didn't Justice League start in 2002 or 2003 though? That one was good. Teen Titans is a bit meh. I didn't watch Duck Dodgers or Dave the Barbarian though.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 4:12 pm


I hated most those shows. Especially Megas XLR and Danny Phantom  ;D Didn't Justice League start in 2002 or 2003 though? That one was good. Teen Titans is a bit meh. I didn't watch Duck Dodgers or Dave the Barbarian though.


Justice League started in 2001. Unlimited (the 2nd series) started in 2004.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 4:18 pm


Justice League started in 2001. Unlimited (the 2nd series) started in 2004.


I'm guessing the first one is considered better  8)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 4:21 pm


I'm guessing the first one is considered better  8)


It depends who you ask. Some people didn't like the huge cast of Unlimited and preferred the focus of the original.

You'd think so because, in mathematical terms, 2000-2002 >> 2003 >>>>>> 2004-2009. 8)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/23/16 at 4:21 pm


I hated most those shows. Especially Megas XLR and Danny Phantom  ;D Didn't Justice League start in 2002 or 2003 though? That one was good. Teen Titans is a bit meh. I didn't watch Duck Dodgers or Dave the Barbarian though.


Justice League started in 2001

Justice League Unlimited started in 2004

I loved all of those as a kid, tied for the 2nd best CN show of all time. However, looking back as I've gotten older the original was better, because it only focused on the 7 main heroes and would always have 2 part episodes with deep story & plot in depth. I liked how the league were broken up in some episodes as well. Unlimited was great too but the episodes were shorted to only 30 minutes and the plots felt more rushed, and it had way too many different heroes in there, although as a kid you'd be excited for that obviously.

LOL, how could anyone hate Megas XLR, that show was so mature for the channel it was on and underrated. Danny Phantom was great as well, but to each own opinions. Teen Titans wasn't meh, it was more than just comedy, serious action, dark plots, relationships, and great character development. I still remember when all of those shows first came out. Up in Canada I know there has to be some shows you had a guilty pleasure for that were hated by a small crowd lol.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/23/16 at 4:37 pm


It depends who you ask. Some people didn't like the huge cast of Unlimited and preferred the focus of the original.

You'd think so because, in mathematical terms, 2000-2002 >> 2003 >>>>>> 2004-2009. 8)


Hopefully that's the mainstream culture you're talking about, not the kid culture. TBH I'd hate being a teen or young adult during the mid 2000's too, and I don't blame you. However, too much happened between 2004-2009 for it to be the same pop culturally from a kid's perspective. But personally for me the late 2000's was pretty decent mainstream wise looking back, especially the movies and music IMO.

I notice in a lot of your Y2K posts you tend to talk about how good emo, punk, or rock music used to be, but again, I'm not a fan of any of that music, whether it's from the 90's, early 00's, mid 00's, or 10's. When it comes to Y2K or early 2000's music, I only like the hip-hop, R&B and dance pop music from the time, which was gold. All of the teen pop music and bands were crap from the time unless you really had a soft spot for those artists/songs.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 4:46 pm


Hopefully that's the mainstream culture you're talking about, not the kid culture. TBH I'd hate being a teen or young adult during the mid 2000's too, and I don't blame you. However, too much happened between 2004-2009 for it to be the same pop culturally from a kid's perspective. But personally for me the late 2000's was pretty decent mainstream wise looking back, especially the movies and music IMO.

I notice in a lot of your Y2K posts you tend to talk about how good emo, punk, or rock music used to be, but again, I'm not a fan of any of that music, whether it's from the 90's, early 00's, mid 00's, or 10's. When it comes to Y2K or early 2000's music, I only like the hip-hop, R&B and dance pop music from the time, which was gold. All of the teen pop music and bands were crap from the time unless you really had a soft spot for those artists/songs.


I don't know too much about the kid culture so yes, I'm talking about the adult stuff. :P The mid-late 00s were awful times for pop culture, if you ask me. Boring, bland, generic and melodramatic! 8-P Anything after 2003-2004 I just don't care about because I don't connect with it whatsoever.

Y2K era hip-hop, RnB (I'm not really a big fan of these genres and is RnB after 2003/2004-ish even RnB anymore?) and dance music (especially the electronic dance music which was pretty sweet from 1997-2003) was still a lot better than the mid-late 00's stuff, if you ask me. The bands of 1998-2002 ruled but the Teen Pop was ultra bland and awful. I think I prefer it to One Direction or Justin Bieber, though.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: SpyroKev on 02/23/16 at 4:56 pm

I was really hooked to Justice League due to Wonder Woman. While Batman was already my favorite character. I was hyped they actually paired in a episode they where turned to kids. Aww, man haha I was younger so I didn't care for the writing at the time. Wonder Woman used to have me so tied.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 4:56 pm


Personally, I would lump 2004-2005 in with 2000-2003 because the "show landscape" was pretty similar.

In addition to great new shows like Megas XLR and Avatar: The last airbender, "oldies" that were popular in the Y2K era — such as Xiaolin Showdown, Samurai Jack, Teen Titans, Star wars: clone wars, Rugrats, pre-cancellation Family Guy, Sealab 2021, Home movies, Recess, or Fillmore! — were either airing new episodes or having prominent enough reruns, keeping them "fresh" in the public's eye.

By 2006, all of those Y2K era shows - new episodes, reruns, or otherwise - were pretty much gone, replaced with dreaded new shows like Squirrel Boy, My Gym Partner's a Monkey, and Mr. Meaty.


I wouldn't say reruns count. Avatar and Megas XLR, Xialoin Showdown and Teen Titans are pure mid 2000s shows. Some shows like Recess, Powerpuff Girls and Dexter's Lab continued airing new episodes though, I'll give you that. Wasn't Rugrats way passed its prime by 2002? I remember it came on at 3:30PM on YTV then when most kids are still in school or coming home from school.

Anyway, my opinion is far form fact of course. I'm not saying just because I didn't enjoy those shows, no one else should either.  ;) For Canadian shows of the mid 2000s, I liked Jacob Two Two.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 4:59 pm


I wouldn't say reruns count. Avatar and Megas XLR, Xialoin Showdown and Teen Titans are pure mid 2000s shows. Some shows like Recess, Powerpuff Girls and Dexter's Lab continued airing new episodes though, I'll give you that. Wasn't Rugrats way passed its prime by 2002? I remember it came on at 3:30PM on YTV then when most kids are still in school or coming home from school.

Anyway, my opinion is far form fact of course. I'm not saying just because I didn't enjoy those shows, no one else should either.  ;) For Canadian shows of the mid 2000s, I liked Jacob Two Two.


I dunno if Rugrats was past it's prime then. Rugrats Go Wild came out in 2003 and was hugely successful.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 02/23/16 at 4:59 pm


I wouldn't say reruns count. Avatar and Megas XLR, Xialoin Showdown and Teen Titans are pure mid 2000s shows. Some shows like Recess, Powerpuff Girls and Dexter's Lab continued airing new episodes though, I'll give you that. Wasn't Rugrats way passed its prime by 2002? I remember it came on at 3:30PM on YTV then when most kids are still in school or coming home from school.

Anyway, my opinion is far form fact of course. I'm not saying just because I didn't enjoy those shows, no one else should either.  ;) For Canadian shows of the mid 2000s, I liked Jacob Two Two.

I'm talking about the U.S. mostly. From 2004-2005 on American channels, Y2K era shows were still semi-relevant in the public's eye. However, by 2006, they had pretty much vanished.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/23/16 at 5:02 pm


I was really hooked to Justice League due to Wonder Woman. While Batman was already my favorite character. I was hyped they actually paired in a episode they where turned to kids. Aww, man haha I was younger so I didn't care for the writing at the time. Wonder Woman used to have me so tied.


LOL, glad you're not the only one who had a crush on Wonder Woman, I even thought Hawkgirl (the most underrated JL member) was red hot n spicy as well even though she had a fiery attitude at times. Superman was my favorite JL member when I was little. Batman was pretty cool too though!

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/23/16 at 5:04 pm


I dunno if Rugrats was past it's prime then. Rugrats Go Wild came out in 2003 and was hugely successful.


I thought Rugrats in Paris from 2000 was way more popular than that one. In fact, I thought Rugrats Go Wild didn't have good reviews, which is why the show was cancelled in 2004.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 5:07 pm


I thought Rugrats in Paris from 2000 was way more popular than that one. In fact, I thought Rugrats Go Wild didn't have good reviews, which is why the show was cancelled in 2004.


Yeah, I think Rugrats in Paris was the most successful, then the 1998 movie then Go Wild. Was that really the reason the show got canceled? It still opened at #4 and made boatloads of money.

I looked it up and apparently it was canceled because of All Grown Up (I've never seen this show, is it any good) and Spongebob.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 5:07 pm


I'm talking about the U.S. mostly. From 2004-2005 on American channels, Y2K era shows were still semi-relevant in the public's eye. However, by 2006, they had pretty much vanished.


I think we have different definitions for what counts as a Y2K era show. When I think of when I say Y2K era shows are shows that started airing 1996-99 and carried on for most of or the entire period (e.g. Dragon Ball Z, Dexter's Lab,  Recess, Hey Arnold!, Powerpuff Girls). Shows that started airing 2001/2 and aired to 2005/6 almost belong in a different era (e.g. Yugioh, Samurai Jack, Kim Possible). Late 2001 to early 2003 is sort of the in between period where both types of shows aired together. By mid-2003 most Y2K era shows that started in the late 90s went off the air, and would continue to do so for most of 2003-04 school year.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/23/16 at 5:20 pm


I think we have different definitions for what counts as a Y2K era show. When I think of when I say Y2K era shows are shows that started airing 1996-99 and carried on for most of or the entire period (e.g. Dragon Ball Z, Dexter's Lab,  Recess, Hey Arnold!, Powerpuff Girls). Shows that started airing 2001/2 and aired to 2005/6 almost belong in a different era (e.g. Yugioh, Samurai Jack, Kim Possible). Late 2001 to early 2003 is sort of the in between period where both types of shows aired together. By mid-2003 most Y2K era shows that started in the late 90s went off the air, and would continue to do so for most of 2003-04 school year.


I agree with this post 99%, although, for here in the U.S. I would say that late 2003 through all of 2004 was a full transitional period for Y2K cartoons and classic reruns leaving, kid channels making changes, and core 2000's shows being in full effect. However, I disagree with summer 2003 being the start point, mid 2003 still felt the exact same as 2002 and early 2003 from my memories.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 5:34 pm


I agree with this post 99%, although, for here in the U.S. I would say that late 2003 through all of 2004 was a full transitional period for Y2K cartoons and classic reruns leaving, kid channels making changes, and core 2000's shows being in full effect. However, I disagree with summer 2003 being the start point, mid 2003 still felt the exact same as 2002 and early 2003 from my memories.


I wasn't at home much Summer of 03. I went to Manchester and then ice skating/swimming camp  :D by the time I got back they were making drastic changes  :o

And sorry for hating on some of your favourite cartoons earlier. It was only my personal opinion, I think we are all instinctively biased for our own eras ;D I should check them out again sometime.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 5:43 pm

Wait, dude, you don't consider shows like Samurai Jack Y2K era shows? That is Y2K to a T and if Powerpuff Girls is Y2K, then I think Samurai Jack is as well.

Besides, didn't lots of shows that premiered in 2000-2002 go through tons of changes in 2003-2005? That was my experience with most TV sitcoms, adult cartoons and some of the kids cartoons I watched.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 02/23/16 at 5:47 pm


Wait, dude, you don't consider shows like Samurai Jack Y2K era shows? That is Y2K to a T and if Powerpuff Girls is Y2K, then I think Samurai Jack is as well.

Besides, didn't lots of shows that premiered in 2000-2002 go through tons of changes in 2003-2005? That was my experience with most TV sitcoms, adult cartoons and some of the kids cartoons I watched.


Yeah I agree Samurai Jack is still Y2K Era since it ran from 2001-2004. 2001, 2002, & 2003 being solidly in the Y2K Era, and the 2004 episodes being in the transition/start of core 00's era.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 02/23/16 at 5:54 pm

In fact I'll go one step further and say that most of the Cartoon Cartoons are Y2K Cartoons, having most of their runs (and memorable episodes) between 1996/7-2003/4.

Below me is the total list of Cartoon Cartoons and their runs times (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartoon_Cartoons )

The ones in BOLD, ITALIC & RED Color font represent quintessential Y2K Era Cartoon Cartoons

The ones in just BOLD & ITALIC font represent a noticeable Y2K Era effect in the Cartoon Cartoons

The ones with no BOLD, ITALIC, or RED Color fonts just represent shows that debuted in the Cartoon Cartoons Era and had more of a impactful effect later on


Title Premiere date Finale date Note(s)

Dexter's Laboratory April 28, 1996 November 20, 2003
Johnny Bravo July 14, 1997 August 27, 2004
Cow and Chicken July 15, 1997 July 24, 1999
I Am Weasel July 15, 1997 March 2, 2000
The Powerpuff Girls November 18, 1998 March 25, 2005
Ed, Edd n Eddy January 4, 1999 November 8, 2009

Mike, Lu & Og November 12, 1999 May 27, 2001
Courage the Cowardly Dog November 12, 1999 November 22, 2002
Sheep in the Big City November 17, 2000 April 7, 2002
Time Squad June 8, 2001 November 26, 2003
Grim & Evil August 24, 2001 October 18, 2002

Whatever Happened to... Robot Jones? July 12, 2002 November 14, 2003
Codename: Kids Next Door December 6, 2002 January 25, 2008
The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy June 13, 2003 October 12, 2008
Evil Con Carne July 11, 2003 October 22, 2004

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 6:00 pm


Wait, dude, you don't consider shows like Samurai Jack Y2K era shows? That is Y2K to a T and if Powerpuff Girls is Y2K, then I think Samurai Jack is as well.

Besides, didn't lots of shows that premiered in 2000-2002 go through tons of changes in 2003-2005? That was my experience with most TV sitcoms, adult cartoons and some of the kids cartoons I watched.


Naw, it's more plain early 2000s rather than Y2K era to me. Y2K era to me is "late 90s/early 2000s" combined, and Samurai Jack just by its animation style alone looks way too modern for the late 90s. Other than that, the storyline is very dark and serious compared to most Y2K era shows.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 6:20 pm


Yeah I agree Samurai Jack is still Y2K Era since it ran from 2001-2004. 2001, 2002, & 2003 being solidly in the Y2K Era, and the 2004 episodes being in the transition/start of core 00's era.


I agree with both this and your list below. Good job! I think it's a totally accurate perspective on the cartoons of the time.


Naw, it's more plain early 2000s rather than Y2K era to me. Y2K era to me is "late 90s/early 2000s" combined, and Samurai Jack just by its animation style alone looks way too modern for the late 90s. Other than that, the storyline is very dark and serious compared to most Y2K era shows.


I think of the late 90's and early 00's as the same thing in general. Samurai Jack, despite being a lot more serious, feels very flashy and in-your-face which is what I think of when I think "Y2K era shows". It was pretty Xtreme! you know. But you really think the animation is too modern? It doesn't look that new, if you ask me.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 6:22 pm


Naw, it's more plain early 2000s rather than Y2K era to me. Y2K era to me is "late 90s/early 2000s" combined, and Samurai Jack just by its animation style alone looks way too modern for the late 90s. Other than that, the storyline is very dark and serious compared to most Y2K era shows.


Not sure how Samurai Jack's animation looks too modern. Shows like Dexter's Lab and Powerpuff girls had an animation style similar as Samurai Jacks. Only difference is that Samurai Jack is more action based.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 6:28 pm


I agree with both this and your list below. Good job! I think it's a totally accurate perspective on the cartoons of the time.

I think of the late 90's and early 00's as the same thing in general. Samurai Jack, despite being a lot more serious, feels very flashy and in-your-face which is what I think of when I think "Y2K era shows". It was pretty Xtreme! you know. But you really think the animation is too modern? It doesn't look that new, if you ask me.


You'll have people who have different opinions on certain things. To me a Y2K show is any show that existed in either the late '90s or the early '00s (or both).  But hey it's all just opinion.  Any show from around 1998-2002 is Y2K to me. To me shows like Powerpuff Girls, Courage the Cowardly Dog, Invader Zim, Pelswick, Chalkzone, Sheep in the Big City, Futurama, Ed Edd n Eddy etc are all Y2K shows to me.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 6:33 pm


Not sure how Samurai Jack's animation looks too modern. Shows like Dexter's Lab and Powerpuff girls had an animation style similar as Samurai Jacks. Only difference is that Samurai Jack is more action based.


Woah Powerpuff Girls and Samurai Jack artstyles are very different to me! Samurai Jack looks slick, while Powerpuff Girls looks more outdated, just going by how thick the character outlines are alone. (of course everything else about it is different too) 

Powerpuff Girls
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/powerpuff/images/0/05/Cat.png/revision/latest?cb=20110628234836

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qL3voaK_SKQ/hqdefault.jpg

Samurai Jack
http://animationinfinity.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/420579-samurai-jack-jack-versus-aku-episode-screencap-4x9.jpg

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 6:38 pm


Woah Powerpuff Girls and Samurai Jack artstyles are very different to me! Samurai Jack looks slick, while Powerpuff Girls looks more outdated, just going by how thick the character outlines are alone. (of course everything else about it is different too) 

Powerpuff Girls
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/powerpuff/images/0/05/Cat.png/revision/latest?cb=20110628234836

Samurai Jack
http://animationinfinity.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/420579-samurai-jack-jack-versus-aku-episode-screencap-4x9.jpg


Actually that has more to do with artistic choice than anything else. And there have been many shows after Powerpuff girls that have thick outlines. In fact a thick outline is both retro AND modern. The thick outline style originated in the 1950s with animation companies such as UPA. It went out of style for a while by the 70s-80s and came back into popularity by the late '90s to present day. The Powerpuff girls look isn't outdated and can be seen in some newer shows (A LOT of shows still use thick outlines nowadays). Samurai Jack's outlineless style as said before is just an artistic touch and not something that's supposed to represent an era. Out of all the cartoons from back then and even today we don't see many shows with the same artstyle as samurai Jack.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 6:39 pm


You'll have people who have different opinions on certain things. To me a Y2K show is any show that existed in either the late '90s or the early '00s (or both).  But hey it's all just opinion.  Any show from around 1998-2002 is Y2K to me. To me shows like Powerpuff Girls, Courage the Cowardly Dog, Invader Zim, Pelswick, Chalkzone, Sheep in the Big City, Futurama, Ed Edd n Eddy etc are all Y2K shows to me.


Yeah, that is true. I agree with what you said 100%. If a show was around during 1998-2002 then it's definitely Y2K. Even if not the whole show (since 2003-2005 is when a lot of shows changed their tones and formats) then at least the seasons that took place during that time are Y2K seasons. Even pre-2004 Fairly Odd Parents and Spongebob are definitely Y2K era and definitely stuff like Ed, Edd and Eddy (they dressed like it was 1998-2002 right until the show ended in 2009!) and Futurama (this show ruled) was Y2K when it started.


Woah Powerpuff Girls and Samurai Jack artstyles are very different to me! Samurai Jack looks slick, while Powerpuff Girls looks more outdated, just going by how thick the character outlines are alone. (of course everything else about it is different too) 

Powerpuff Girls
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/powerpuff/images/0/05/Cat.png/revision/latest?cb=20110628234836

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qL3voaK_SKQ/hqdefault.jpg

Samurai Jack
http://animationinfinity.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/420579-samurai-jack-jack-versus-aku-episode-screencap-4x9.jpg


In my opinion, Samurai Jack looks very unpolished to me to seem modern.

Speaking of art styles, I think 2003 was the last time a show like Robot Jones could premiere and it would be acceptable. By the mid 00's, that look was far too outdated for anyone to watch.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 6:44 pm


Actually that has more to do with artistic choice than anything else. And there have been many shows after Powerpuff girls that have thick outlines. In fact a thick outline is both retro AND modern. The thick outline style originated in the 1950s with animation companies such as UPA. It went out of style for a while by the 70s-80s and came back into popularity by the late '90s to present day. The Powerpuff girls look isn't outdated and can be seen in some newer shows (A LOT of shows still use thick outlines nowadays). Samurai Jack's outlineless style as said before is just an artistic touch and not something that's supposed to represent an era. Out of all the cartoons from back then and even today we don't see many shows with the same artstyle as samurai Jack.


Well, you guys could have used a better point of comparison than Samurai Jack vs Powerpuff Girls  :P Samurai Jack's artstyle looks more similar to shows like Sonic X or Foster's Home to me than Powerpuff Girls or Dexter's Lab  ;D

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 6:47 pm


Well, you guys could have used a better point of comparison than Samurai Jack vs Powerpuff Girls  :P Samurai Jack's artstyle looks more similar to shows like Sonic X or Foster's Home to me than Powerpuff Girls or Dexter's Lab  ;D


Sonic X (I've never seen this show but thank god. This looks terrible):
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/mmc/images/7/74/Sonic_X.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131231190208

Samurai Jack:
http://animationinfinity.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/420579-samurai-jack-jack-versus-aku-episode-screencap-4x9.jpg

I mean... Opinions and all but... That looks similar to you? ???

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 6:49 pm


Well, you guys could have used a better point of comparison than Samurai Jack vs Powerpuff Girls  :P Samurai Jack's artstyle looks more similar to shows like Sonic X or Foster's Home to me than Powerpuff Girls or Dexter's Lab  ;D


I suppose you're right. Better comparisons would be like shows such as Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy or something. I mainly used Samurai Jack due to it being the show that was brought up earlier.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Mandy.png
http://img04.deviantart.net/d24a/i/2012/326/3/3/impressed_by_my_strength__vector_by_icantunloveyou-d5ltm8r.png
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/thumbs/Codename-Kids-Next-Door-Episode-43--Operation-P-O-O-L.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t_1R_WECmrs/maxresdefault.jpg
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Clearly_not_a_lineart_to_be_trifled_with.png
http://i2.wp.com/nerdophiles.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/vlcsnap-2014-02-13-01h27m56s215.png

I also remember that Powerpuff girls cameo in Grim Adventures.
96XjGD50jVo

Foster's home and Samurai Jack have similar visuals due to lacking lines as well. But you have other shows that aired around that time like that also used thick outlines like Fairly Odd Parents or Tuff Puppy if you want a modern example.
http://www.nelvana.com/content/assets/shows/fairly-oddparents/gallery/250/FOP_PR_SA_10_big.jpg

http://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/franchises/498.jpg

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 6:51 pm


Sonic X (I've never seen this show but thank god. This looks terrible):
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/mmc/images/7/74/Sonic_X.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131231190208

Samurai Jack:
http://animationinfinity.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/420579-samurai-jack-jack-versus-aku-episode-screencap-4x9.jpg

I mean... Opinions and all but... That looks similar to you? ???


Not the colours, but if you told me the same software went into making it I would believe you :P

The show was pretty decent actually. Unfortunately I believe it is the show that started that very creepy furry Sonic trend.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 6:54 pm


Not the colours, but if you told me the same software went into making it I would believe you :P

The show was pretty decent actually. Unfortunately I believe it is the show that started that very creepy furry Sonic trend.


Software never determines how a show will look. The artist is the reason a show looks a certain way. Not the software.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 6:55 pm


Not the colours, but if you told me the same software went into making it I would believe you :P

The show was pretty decent actually. Unfortunately I believe it is the show that started that very creepy furry Sonic trend.


You sure? Sonic X is one of those animes so it must of been animated differently or something.

Oooooh, of course it did! An anime sparking a creepy trend! How am I surprised? I don't know what "creepy sonic furry trend" entails but I can assume it's something not good and it's all thanks to it being an anime.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 6:57 pm


The show was pretty decent actually. Unfortunately I believe it is the show that started that very creepy furry Sonic trend.


Usually it's been said to be Sonic SatAM and the Archie comics that started it due to it's debut of characters like Sally in 1992/1993. But Sonic X did make things slightly worse. But hey we all wanted to be cool and hang out with Sonic. 8)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 7:00 pm


Usually it's been said to be Sonic SatAM and the Archie comics that started it due to it's debut of characters like Sally in 1992/1993. But Sonic X did make things slightly worse. But hey we all wanted to be cool and hang out with Sonic. 8)


But... I grew up with the SatAM cartoon! Now you're telling me Sally sparked a creepy trend? Not even the cartoons of my youth are safe! :\'( Being cool and hanging out with Sonic is fine. Creepy anime adventures with furry animals is another story (a bad story I don't want to know about).

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: SpyroKev on 02/23/16 at 7:02 pm

Samurai Jack is definitely Y2K. Despite the show having a rather dark story, the intro theme strongly captures the Y2K vibe and sound.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 7:04 pm


I suppose you're right. Better comparisons would be like shows such as Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy or something. I mainly used Samurai Jack due to it being the show that was brought up earlier.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p169/Maphisto40/Mandy.png
http://img04.deviantart.net/d24a/i/2012/326/3/3/impressed_by_my_strength__vector_by_icantunloveyou-d5ltm8r.png
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/thumbs/Codename-Kids-Next-Door-Episode-43--Operation-P-O-O-L.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t_1R_WECmrs/maxresdefault.jpg
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Clearly_not_a_lineart_to_be_trifled_with.png
http://i2.wp.com/nerdophiles.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/vlcsnap-2014-02-13-01h27m56s215.png

I also remember that Powerpuff girls cameo in Grim Adventures.
96XjGD50jVo

Foster's home and Samurai Jack have similar visuals due to lacking lines as well. But you have other shows that aired around that time like that also used thick outlines like Fairly Odd Parents or Tuff Puppy if you want a modern example.
http://www.nelvana.com/content/assets/shows/fairly-oddparents/gallery/250/FOP_PR_SA_10_big.jpg

http://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/franchises/498.jpg


The Billy & Mandy and Powerpuff Girls comparison is very convincing, although Billy and Mandy does feel slightly more polished, but I think I'm nitpicking lol

Search "Jordan sonic" or any name with Sonic and prepared to be thoroughly disgusted ;D I wouldn't even dare try it on Bing with safesearch off. I'd probably be on some FBI list.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/23/16 at 7:05 pm


But... I grew up with the SatAM cartoon! Now you're telling me Sally sparked a creepy trend? Not even the cartoons of my youth are safe! :\'( Being cool and hanging out with Sonic is fine. Creepy anime adventures with furry animals is another story (a bad story I don't want to know about).


Oh, there are worst things than Sonic X. *cough* Sonic OCs and Sonic characters having sex on DeviantArt *cough*

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 7:06 pm


But... I grew up with the SatAM cartoon! Now you're telling me Sally sparked a creepy trend? Not even the cartoons of my youth are safe! :\'( Being cool and hanging out with Sonic is fine. Creepy anime adventures with furry animals is another story (a bad story I don't want to know about).


The furry fandom has been around for a while. Said to have been popular by the '80s. The '90s onward is when the furry fandom trend REALLY got big. Sally is apparently very popular with the furry community. If you ever want to risk your sanity you could do some googling and see for yourself.  ;)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 7:06 pm


Search "Jordan sonic" or any name with Sonic and prepared to be thoroughly disgusted ;D I wouldn't even dare try it on Bing with safesearch off. I'd probably be on some FBI list.


SCREENSHOT TIME!

https://i.gyazo.com/6b5c6c7540f0b1ad8dfb317a5b224f53.png

What the hell is this s h it, man? Jordan the Fox!?!?!?

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 7:08 pm


Oh, there are worst things than Sonic X. *cough* Sonic OCs and Sonic characters having sex on DeviantArt *cough*


https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-06/14/17/enhanced/webdr13/enhanced-32618-1434318992-2.jpg

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-06/14/17/enhanced/webdr13/enhanced-32618-1434318992-2.jpg

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-06/14/17/enhanced/webdr13/enhanced-32618-1434318992-2.jpg


The furry fandom has been around for a while. Said to have been popular by the '80s. The '90s onward is when the furry fandom trend REALLY got big. Sally is apparently very popular with the furry community. If you ever want to risk your sanity you could do some googling and see for yourself.  ;)


I thought the 80's was a good time that was safe from all this crap... :\'( Is nothing sacred!? Google? No thanks. As seen above, I've done enough googling...

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 7:08 pm


Samurai Jack is definitely Y2K. Despite the show having a rather dark story, the intro theme strongly captures the Y2K vibe and sound.


Even shows from Y2K era could be dark. But it certainly wasn't a time where dark shows were common. There were shows like Batman Animated series in 1992 and Batman Beyond in 1999 that had a dark tone to them. But again for everyone 1 dark show like Batman Beyond we'd get 6 bright/wacky shows like Spongebob, Time Squad, Sheep in the Big City, Robot Jones etc in the Y2K era.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 7:11 pm


Search "Jordan sonic" or any name with Sonic and prepared to be thoroughly disgusted ;D I wouldn't even dare try it on Bing with safesearch off. I'd probably be on some FBI list.



Oh, there are worst things than Sonic X. *cough* Sonic OCs and Sonic characters having sex on DeviantArt *cough*


WHAT ARE YOU TWO DOING?! Don't bring up such disgusting things on here!  :( I remember I searched up my name with "the hedgehog" at the end.  :( :\'( ??? Man was I disgusted. And Deviantart where all the Sonic furry art seems to be. Keep your kids away from it! It may badly influence them.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 7:13 pm

HA! This is what happened when I typed in "Slowpoke the hedgehog"!

http://lolbot.net/shared/post_media/images/full_sized/732.jpg

Slowpoke, I didn't know you had a hedgehog form.  8)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 7:14 pm

Why are they dragging my name though the mud? And secondly! Why are these all girl characters!? Jordan is a dude's name too!

Like this one:
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/17700000/Jordan-the-fox-sonic-fan-characters-recolors-are-allowed-17715306-420-572.jpg

Is she drunk or something?


WHAT ARE YOU TWO DOING?! Don't bring up such disgusting things on here!  :( I remember I searched up my name with "the hedgehog" at the end.  :( :\'( ??? Man was I disgusted. And Deviantart where all the Sonic furry art seems to be. Keep your kids away from it! It may badly influence them.


http://img06.deviantart.net/0a84/i/2012/354/9/4/jordan_the_hedgehog_by_sonicboy50-d5on3lb.png

Maybe Early 90s Guy was right. Millennials born after 1987 have something wrong with 'em. :-\\

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 7:14 pm


SCREENSHOT TIME!

https://i.gyazo.com/6b5c6c7540f0b1ad8dfb317a5b224f53.png

What the hell is this s h it, man? Jordan the Fox!?!?!?


That screenshot of the brown and blue hedgehog on the right is an accurate example of what Jordan would look like in hedgehog form. 8)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 7:16 pm


https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-06/14/17/enhanced/webdr13/enhanced-32618-1434318992-2.jpg

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-06/14/17/enhanced/webdr13/enhanced-32618-1434318992-2.jpg

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-06/14/17/enhanced/webdr13/enhanced-32618-1434318992-2.jpg

I thought the 80's was a good time that was safe from all this crap... :\'( Is nothing sacred!? Google? No thanks. As seen above, I've done enough googling...


HEY! The furry community is forever strong and will be with us whether we like it or not.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 7:18 pm

This thread took a dark turn  :o

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 7:20 pm


That screenshot of the brown and blue hedgehog on the right is an accurate example of what Jordan would look like in hedgehog form. 8)


No way! I look nothing like this!

More gold:
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/neo-bros/images/3/33/My_new_charater_adopted_jordan_the_hedgehog_by_themrlfan-d5f2r3p.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140517200257

http://orig01.deviantart.net/cb1e/f/2014/150/4/c/jordan_the_hedgehog_by_jlionbad-d7kaw5u.jpg

http://orig11.deviantart.net/3bc2/f/2011/334/d/5/art_trade__jordan_the_hedgehog_by_mino_the_cat-d4hr7x2.jpg

http://img12.deviantart.net/c63b/i/2009/100/e/5/request__jordan_the_hedgehog_by_safarithecat.jpg

Thanks for enlightening me into the world of younger millennial culture guys! I really appreciate this!


HEY! The furry community is forever strong and will be with us whether we like it or not.


I really, really wish I didn't know what "furry community" meant but thanks to my good friend Mr. Photoshop, I now do. I blame anime cartoons for this.


This thread took a dark turn  :o


And it was 80s/90s/early 2000s teens who started the furry trend, as Toon has pointed out. :P


The furry trend could not have existed until 2003 at the earliest! I will not believe this! Us 80s-early 00s teens have our heads screwed on straight.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 7:22 pm


Why are they dragging my name though the mud? And secondly! Why are these all girl characters!? Jordan is a dude's name too!

Like this one:
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/17700000/Jordan-the-fox-sonic-fan-characters-recolors-are-allowed-17715306-420-572.jpg

Is she drunk or something?

Jordan, I didn't know you were a female fox version of Tails!
https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Mother-Of-God.jpg

HA! All our names are dragged into this. Welcome to the furry sonic community. Where EVERY possible name has been using for made up Sonic characters.  :(


http://img06.deviantart.net/0a84/i/2012/354/9/4/jordan_the_hedgehog_by_sonicboy50-d5on3lb.png

Maybe Early 90s Guy was right. Millennials born after 1987 have something wrong with 'em. :-\\


NIgfiSzCy1o

I'm dying from laughter.  :D

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 7:23 pm


This thread took a dark turn  :o


Yep, the furry community can be very scary at times.  :-\\

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 7:26 pm


No way! I look nothing like this!

More gold:
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/neo-bros/images/3/33/My_new_charater_adopted_jordan_the_hedgehog_by_themrlfan-d5f2r3p.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140517200257

http://orig01.deviantart.net/cb1e/f/2014/150/4/c/jordan_the_hedgehog_by_jlionbad-d7kaw5u.jpg

http://orig11.deviantart.net/3bc2/f/2011/334/d/5/art_trade__jordan_the_hedgehog_by_mino_the_cat-d4hr7x2.jpg

http://img12.deviantart.net/c63b/i/2009/100/e/5/request__jordan_the_hedgehog_by_safarithecat.jpg

Thanks for enlightening me into the world of younger millennial culture guys! I really appreciate this!

I really, really wish I didn't know what "furry community" meant but thanks to my good friend Mr. Photoshop, I now do. I blame anime cartoons for this.

The furry trend could not have existed until 2003 at the earliest! I will not believe this! Us 80s-early 00s teens have our heads screwed on straight.


Sally the Acorn corrupted the youth. I didn't even know there was a Sonic 90s show. This is the work of Late Gen X/Early Millennials for sure ;D

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 7:27 pm


Jordan, I didn't know you were a female fox version of Tails!
https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Mother-Of-God.jpg

HA! All our names are dragged into this. Welcome to the furry sonic community. Where EVERY possible name has been using for made up Sonic characters.  :(


No way!

Until now, I've lived my life ignorant of this new phenomenon and I was happy. That is no longer the case. :(


NIgfiSzCy1o

I'm dying from laughter.  :D


It is funny. Good ol' JJ bringing the good times.


Sally the Acorn corrupted the youth. I didn't even know there was a Sonic 90s show. This is the work of Late Gen X/Early Millennials for sure ;D


No way! It's all you post 1987-Millennials and your love of a post-2003 society.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 7:29 pm


No way! I look nothing like this!

More gold:
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/neo-bros/images/3/33/My_new_charater_adopted_jordan_the_hedgehog_by_themrlfan-d5f2r3p.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140517200257

http://orig01.deviantart.net/cb1e/f/2014/150/4/c/jordan_the_hedgehog_by_jlionbad-d7kaw5u.jpg

http://orig11.deviantart.net/3bc2/f/2011/334/d/5/art_trade__jordan_the_hedgehog_by_mino_the_cat-d4hr7x2.jpg

http://img12.deviantart.net/c63b/i/2009/100/e/5/request__jordan_the_hedgehog_by_safarithecat.jpg


http://cdn.meme.am/instances/56061951.jpg


Thanks for enlightening me into the world of younger millennial culture guys! I really appreciate this!

I really, really wish I didn't know what "furry community" meant but thanks to my good friend Mr. Photoshop, I now do. I blame anime cartoons for this.


It's always nice to enlighten others on the weird things that exist in this world.  8) I'm that guy who likes to ruin everyone else's day.

The furry trend could not have existed until 2003 at the earliest! I will not believe this! Us 80s-early 00s teens have our heads screwed on straight.


Maybe your '80s-'90s teen friends probably had a secret interest in furries and didn't tell you. What's funny in during the 1990s there were TONS of shows that starred furries as the main characters. And due to the rise of the internet we now have furries from all around the world getting in contact with each other to form their community.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 7:30 pm

I'm pretty sure we're all on a list now thanks to those pics lol. Jordan what have you done  >:( 8-P

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/23/16 at 7:30 pm


It's always nice to enlighten others on the weird things that exist in this world.  8) I'm that guy who likes to ruin everyone else's day.


You still working on the next collage?

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/23/16 at 7:32 pm


I'm pretty sure we're all on a list now thanks to those pics lol. Jordan what have you done  >:( 8-P


In regards to your last response, it's all good, I wasn't offended at all. It's funny how you're only 3 years older than me, but yet from a kid cultural perspective it feels like you're 4 years older than me since you grew up with 1991 & 1992 born's in your grade and graduated high school in 2010, when I hadn't even started high school yet. So it makes sense that your taste in cartoons are slightly older than mine.

However, I had to LMAO so hard at that photo Toon created with your profile pictures and Sonic mixed together!  ;D

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 7:33 pm


http://cdn.meme.am/instances/56061951.jpg

It's always nice to enlighten others on the weird things that exist in this world.  8) I'm that guy who likes to ruin everyone else's day.


Thank you, Toon. Thank you so very much. I'm glad I was born before 1987. So, so glad.


I'm pretty sure we're all on a list now thanks to those pics lol. Jordan what have you done  >:( 8-P


Oh, like you have it bad. I'm in enough trouble for googling Katy Hudson photos and having my wife peak over my shoulder and ask "Is this what you use our computer for!?" "No, no, no! I'm just proving a point about the early 00's on the internet again." "Oh jesus!" And now!? "Christ almighty, Jordan! What the hell are you looking up!" I quickly showed her this thread to prove I'm not a sonic loving weirdo. :-\\

You enjoy your list. >:(

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 7:34 pm


Maybe your '80s-'90s teen friends probably had a secret interest in furries and didn't tell you. What's funny in during the 1990s there were TONS of shows that starred furries as the main characters. And due to the rise of the internet we now have furries from all around the world getting in contact with each other to form their community.


But... The 80's are a pure decade! I refuse to believe the 80's have anything to do with this! >:(

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/23/16 at 7:36 pm


Naw, it's more plain early 2000s rather than Y2K era to me. Y2K era to me is "late 90s/early 2000s" combined, and Samurai Jack just by its animation style alone looks way too modern for the late 90s. Other than that, the storyline is very dark and serious compared to most Y2K era shows.


Makes sense. Even Cow & Chicken, despite still showing reruns in the early 2000's, wouldn't be completely Y2K either, since it only ran in the late 90's. Y2K/millennial means late 90's and early 2000's combined together. Late 90's separately or early 2000's separately isn't Y2K, it's just the late 90's and early 2000's separate.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 7:37 pm


You still working on the next collage?


Yeah. I'm still working on it. Just due to being busy with other things the process has slowed down a bit. But I should have it finished either today or tomorrow. Got any recommendations or requests then feel free to let me know.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 7:42 pm


Sally the Acorn corrupted the youth. I didn't even know there was a Sonic 90s show. This is the work of Late Gen X/Early Millennials for sure ;D

There were 3 Sonic 90's shows. Sonic SatAM in 1993. Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog also in 1993. And Sonic Underground in 1999. In Sonic Underground Sonic has brother and sister named Manic and Sonia (they're like Sonic recolors in terms of design the only that makes them special recolors is the fact that they're official Sonic characters and not fanmade). They team up together to defeat Robotnik/Eggman using music.......... I swear I didn't make that last part up. THEY. FIGHT. USING. MUSIC! Music....ya know the thing that creates this sound that is catchy and stuff. It's like what happens if Disney got the rights to Sonic and decided to make it a musical. Man that show was bad.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 7:45 pm


Thank you, Toon. Thank you so very much. I'm glad I was born before 1987. So, so glad.

Your welcome, mate.  8)


Oh, like you have it bad. I'm in enough trouble for googling Katy Hudson photos and having my wife peak over my shoulder and ask "Is this what you use our computer for!?" "No, no, no! I'm just proving a point about the early 00's on the internet again." "Oh jesus!" And now!? "Christ almighty, Jordan! What the hell are you looking up!" I quickly showed her this thread to prove I'm not a sonic loving weirdo. :-\\

NIgfiSzCy1o
She'll find out that you're secretly a furry loving weirdo. ;D

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 7:46 pm


There were 3 Sonic 90's shows. Sonic SatAM in 1993. Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog also in 1993. And Sonic Underground in 1999. In Sonic Underground Sonic has brother and sister named Manic and Sonia (they're like Sonic recolors in terms of design the only that makes them special recolors is the fact that they're official Sonic characters and not fanmade). They team up together to defeat Robotnik/Eggman using music.......... I swear I didn't make that last part up. THEY. FIGHT. USING. MUSIC! Music....ya know the thing that creates this sound that is catchy and stuff. It's like what happens if Disney got the rights to Sonic and decided to make it a musical. Man that show was bad.


Is Sonic Underground another one of those creepy anime cartoons but this time they use music and make it even more creepy? Wait... That plot sounds more like an 80s show than a show from 1999. ???

The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog will always be the GOAT Sonic show.


Your welcome, mate.  8)
NIgfiSzCy1o
She'll find out that you're secretly a furry loving weirdo. ;D


But... But I'm not! >:(

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 7:46 pm


However, I had to LMAO so hard at that photo Toon created with your profile pictures and Sonic mixed together!  ;D


Slowpoke promised me that he'll use that pic as his new forum avatar. 8)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 7:50 pm


Is Sonic Underground another one of those creepy anime cartoons but this time they use music and make it even more creepy? Wait... That plot sounds more like an 80s show than a show from 1999. ???

The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog will always be the GOAT Sonic show.

Sonic Underground isn't an anime cartoon like Sonic X. But the plot is kind of stupid. Also if that terrible plot sounds like something from the '80s then that must mean the '80s was horrible.  I can't wait for Sonic Underground 2: Electric Boogaloo.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a8/Breakin2.jpg
Something this awful can only be from the '80s.....and it was!
8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)


But... But I'm not! >:(


Just you wait, mate. You'll soon find yourself drawing furry comics and writing fanficiton.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/23/16 at 7:50 pm


Why are they dragging my name though the mud? And secondly! Why are these all girl characters!? Jordan is a dude's name too!

Like this one:
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/17700000/Jordan-the-fox-sonic-fan-characters-recolors-are-allowed-17715306-420-572.jpg

Is she drunk or something?


Nah, I think this is something that DA weirdos do in their alone time. *cough* making furry porn out of any franchise *cough*



http://img06.deviantart.net/0a84/i/2012/354/9/4/jordan_the_hedgehog_by_sonicboy50-d5on3lb.png

Maybe Early 90s Guy was right. Millennials born after 1987 have something wrong with 'em. :-\\


Yeeaah... they seem to make terrible Sonic OCs like that. And they're everywhere on DA.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 7:53 pm


Slowpoke promised me that he'll use that pic as his new forum avatar. 8)


This one is a better choice. He is older now so he must represent his old age:
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/001/036/Carlslowpoke.jpg


Sonic Underground isn't an anime cartoon like Sonic X. But the plot is kind of stupid. Also if that terrible plot sounds like something from the '80s then that must mean the '80s was horrible.  I can't wait for Sonic Underground 2: Electric Boogaloo.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a8/Breakin2.jpg

8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Just you wait, mate. You'll soon find yourself drawing furry comics and writing fanficiton.


What!? The 80's were not horrible! You're just mad because you were born after 1987 (I assume) and couldn't experience the best decade ever! I bet Sonic Underground 2: Electric Boogaloo would be sick! >:(

Gross! I would never! 8-P


Nah, I think this is something that DA weirdos do in their alone time. *cough* making furry porn out of any franchise *cough*


Yeeaah... they seem to make terrible Sonic OCs like that. And they're everywhere on DA.


Once again:

http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/imagecache/Node_Page/images/1257003814239.jpg

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 7:54 pm


Nah, I think this is something that DA weirdos do in their alone time. *cough* making furry porn out of any franchise *cough*


Yeeaah... they seem to make terrible Sonic OCs like that. And they're everywhere on DA.


About 70% of deviantart is furry/brony stuff. Been this way since.......I think DA's inception. I'm fine with some fanart of a furry character like Mickey Mouse or Bugs Bunny, but then again they're more Funny Animal characters then they are furry. But that doesn't stop the furry community from making porn of them.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 7:57 pm


In regards to your last response, it's all good, I wasn't offended at all. It's funny how you're only 3 years older than me, but yet from a kid cultural perspective it feels like you're 4 years older than me since you grew up with 1991 & 1992 born's in your grade and graduated high school in 2010, when I hadn't even started high school yet. So it makes sense that your taste in cartoons are slightly older than mine.

However, I had to LMAO so hard at that photo Toon created with your profile pictures and Sonic mixed together!  ;D


I went to school with 1992/(93) borns actually. There were no 91 borns in my class  from what I remember, but I did have a split grade with the older class in Grade 4 and in some classes in Grade 6, so I guess I was in the same class as 1991 borns sometimes. But I was with the younger class of 1993/(94) borns in Grade 5 as well. Canadian school system probably sounds weird lol  :o

I think my tastes are exactly 3 years older than yours. You said cartoons declined for you in 2006 right? 2003 for me :P

I actually knew about Slowpoke and all the creepy pics online about him. It was one of the reasons I chose that username, Slowpoke seems kind of troll-y.  :P

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 7:58 pm


This one is a better choice. He is older now so he must represent his old age:
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/001/036/Carlslowpoke.jpg

Oh SNAP!  :( :o


What!? The 80's were not horrible! You just mad because you were born after 1987 (I assume) and couldn't experience the best decade ever! I bet Sonic Underground 2: Electric Boogaloo would be sick! >:(


Gross! I would never! 8-P

Sonic Underground 1 was terrible. Sequel would've sucked as well.  8) Listen to the XTREME! and powerful Toon. Do I seem like the type of guy who'd lie to you?  8)

That's what they all say. Next thing you know you're having attractions for some cartoon character you saw on TV.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 8:01 pm


I went to school with 1992/(93) borns actually. There were no 91 borns in my class  from what I remember, but I did have a split grade with the older class in Grade 4 and in some classes in Grade 6, so I guess I was in the same class as 1991 borns sometimes. But I was with the younger class of 1993/(94) borns in Grade 5 as well. Canadian school system probably sounds weird lol  :o


Canada's school system is weird, but mostly due to it being different from the United State's system. And heck even in the States certain areas don't follow the same rules. Some states use the "Born before/after Sept 1st" rule while others do not. School systems overall are just weird. Apparently some places in the world have students who'd graduate at 16 instead of 18 for example.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 8:10 pm


Oh SNAP!  :( :o


;)


Sonic Underground 1 was terrible. Sequel would've sucked as well.  8) Listen to the XTREME! and powerful Toon. Do I seem like the type of guy who'd lie to you?  8)


Uhh... Yeah.


That's what they all say. Next thing you know you're having attractions for some cartoon character you saw on TV.


Gross! See? That's what I don't understand about you kids. You seem to be more into cartoon characters rather than the real thing.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 8:16 pm


Uhh... Yeah.


http://memesvault.com/wp-content/uploads/Disappointed-Meme-Face-17.png
Seriously, mate?!

Gross! See? That's what I don't understand about you kids. You seem to be more into cartoon characters rather than the real thing.


I never had an attraction towards cartoon characters. Thing about cartoon characters is that being in a relationship is impossible anyways. So I'm confused as to why people like cartoon characters to the point where they even fall in love. I've always been more interested in real women. Although at the moment I'm currently trying to handle my own business before I consider another relationship.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 8:20 pm


;)

Uhh... Yeah.

Gross! See? That's what I don't understand about you kids. You seem to be more into cartoon characters rather than the real thing.


But it was you guys who popularized furry  8-P Wikipedia's article on furry fandom says there were huge conventions for it in the 80s and early/mid 90s, and afterwards everything went to the Internet (probably 1982 borns who took it there). Us post-1987ers are at least 20 years late to the party.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 8:23 pm


http://memesvault.com/wp-content/uploads/Disappointed-Meme-Face-17.png
Seriously, mate?!


Yeah! I saw you lie to Howard so he could give you more money!


I never had an attraction towards cartoon characters. Thing about cartoon characters is that being in a relationship is impossible anyways. So I'm confused as to why people like cartoon characters to the point where they even fall in love. I've always been more interested in real women. Although at the moment I'm currently trying to handle my own business before I consider another relationship.


I don't understand it myself. Everyone's into these anime cartoons and I'm thinking "these aren't even real women!" Real women = rad. Cartoon women = ???. It's good you're trying to handle your own business before considering another relationship. Some people try to rush into relationships without being ready and it always ends in the worst way.


But it was you guys who popularized furry  8-P Wikipedia's article on furry fandom says there were huge conventions for it in the 80s and early/mid 90s, and afterwards everything went to the Internet (probably 1982 borns who took it there). Us post-1987ers are at least 20 years late to the party.


You know how easy Wikipedia is to edit? I think a jealous post-1987 Millennial added that in because he/she was jealous.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/23/16 at 8:23 pm


I think my tastes are exactly 3 years older than yours. You said cartoons declined for you in 2006 right? 2003 for me :P


Yes, 2006 was definitely the year cartoons declined for me. I would even go as early as the 2nd half of 2005, since cartoons like My Gym Partner's A Monkey, Johnny Test, Coconut Fred's Fruit Salad Island, The Buzz On Maggie, and Robotboy were not my cup of tea at all.  8-P

As for the positives, I thought Ben 10 was the best show CN created during the City Era (yeah that's right Foster's). It's the last true CN show I associate with my childhood and it was an amazing series from start to finish IMO, and that's why it ended up having sequels like Alien Force or Ultimate Alien, which I weren't into but I know those were good. Camp Lazlo was OK, the setting was pretty cool, it wasn't my top favorite but I do remember a lot of people liking it though. Same goes for Loonatics Unleashed, but due to me being a huge fan of anything Looney Tunes related I was lucky to enjoy it.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 8:24 pm

The specific term furry fandom was being used in fanzines as early as 1983, and had become the standard name for the genre by the mid-1990s, when it was defined as "the organized appreciation and dissemination of art and prose regarding 'Furries', or fictional mammalian anthropomorphic characters." However, fans consider the origins of furry fandom to be much earlier, with fictional works such as Kimba, The White Lion released in 1965, Richard Adams' novel Watership Down, published in 1972 (and its 1978 film adaptation), as well as Disney's Robin Hood as oft-cited examples. Internet newsgroup discussion in the 1990s created some separation between fans of "funny animal" characters and furry characters, meant to avoid the baggage that is associated with the term "furry".


During the 1980s, furry fans began to publish fanzines, developing a diverse social group that eventually began to schedule social gatherings. By 1989, there was sufficient interest to stage the first furry convention. Throughout the next decade, the Internet became accessible to the general population and became the most popular means for furry fans to socialize. The newsgroup alt.fan.furry was created in November 1990, and virtual environments such as MUCKs also became popular places on the Internet for fans to meet and communicate.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/23/16 at 8:28 pm


I never had an attraction towards cartoon characters. Thing about cartoon characters is that being in a relationship is impossible anyways. So I'm confused as to why people like cartoon characters to the point where they even fall in love. I've always been more interested in real women. Although at the moment I'm currently trying to handle my own business before I consider another relationship.


I agree that real women are always the right path to go. I'll admit I had some cartoon and video game crushes throughout my childhood, but the video game characters were a lot hotter IMO. Some of those Street Fighter girls are so damn fine as hell!

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 8:29 pm


The specific term furry fandom was being used in fanzines as early as 1983, and had become the standard name for the genre by the mid-1990s, when it was defined as "the organized appreciation and dissemination of art and prose regarding 'Furries', or fictional mammalian anthropomorphic characters." However, fans consider the origins of furry fandom to be much earlier, with fictional works such as Kimba, The White Lion released in 1965, Richard Adams' novel Watership Down, published in 1972 (and its 1978 film adaptation), as well as Disney's Robin Hood as oft-cited examples. Internet newsgroup discussion in the 1990s created some separation between fans of "funny animal" characters and furry characters, meant to avoid the baggage that is associated with the term "furry".


During the 1980s, furry fans began to publish fanzines, developing a diverse social group that eventually began to schedule social gatherings. By 1989, there was sufficient interest to stage the first furry convention. Throughout the next decade, the Internet became accessible to the general population and became the most popular means for furry fans to socialize. The newsgroup alt.fan.furry was created in November 1990, and virtual environments such as MUCKs also became popular places on the Internet for fans to meet and communicate.


You have put a lot of effort into this but your tricks don't fool me. I'd prefer it if you didn't spread anymore false information. >:(

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 8:30 pm


The specific term furry fandom was being used in fanzines as early as 1983, and had become the standard name for the genre by the mid-1990s, when it was defined as "the organized appreciation and dissemination of art and prose regarding 'Furries', or fictional mammalian anthropomorphic characters." However, fans consider the origins of furry fandom to be much earlier, with fictional works such as Kimba, The White Lion released in 1965, Richard Adams' novel Watership Down, published in 1972 (and its 1978 film adaptation), as well as Disney's Robin Hood as oft-cited examples. Internet newsgroup discussion in the 1990s created some separation between fans of "funny animal" characters and furry characters, meant to avoid the baggage that is associated with the term "furry".


During the 1980s, furry fans began to publish fanzines, developing a diverse social group that eventually began to schedule social gatherings. By 1989, there was sufficient interest to stage the first furry convention. Throughout the next decade, the Internet became accessible to the general population and became the most popular means for furry fans to socialize. The newsgroup alt.fan.furry was created in November 1990, and virtual environments such as MUCKs also became popular places on the Internet for fans to meet and communicate.


And there you have it! Furry Fandom taking the world by storm by the early '80s (although their are hints of furry fandom in even earlier periods). Nowadays 50% of people on the internet are furries.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 8:30 pm


You have put a lot of effort into this but your tricks don't fool me. I'd prefer it if you didn't spread anymore false information. >:(


It's all legit, mate!  8)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 8:33 pm


It's all legit, mate!  8)


I don't think so. You guys know lying is wrong so I don't know why you do it!

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 8:34 pm


I agree that real women are always the right path to go. I'll admit I had some cartoon and video game crushes throughout my childhood, but the video game characters were a lot hotter IMO. Some of those Street Fighter girls are so damn fine as hell!


I had the hots for the DBZ dudes, especially when their shirts got progressively more revealing as the episodes dragged on.

Okay, this thread has taken way too many dark turns for one day  ;D

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 8:35 pm


I agree that real women are always the right path to go. I'll admit I had some cartoon and video game crushes throughout my childhood, but the video game characters were a lot hotter IMO. Some of those Street Fighter girls are so damn fine as hell!


HA! Hey it's all fine if someone has an attraction to a character. Character designers try to achieve making their characters look pretty. It's only an issue when things start to get creepy. The amount of creepy/weird fanart I see on the internet is crazy. But there is nothing wrong with liking the way a certain character looks. I can see a male video game character and say "Hey he looks pretty cool" or a female character and say "Hey she looks pretty". That's normal. But when I start drawing weird fanart of the character and writing fanfiction then things start to become a problem.

But just like you I prefer to go for real women. Can never beat the real thing (also I'm sorry if any female is upset that I used the word "thing" when talking about women. I was just using the old saying is all. Didn't mean to offend anyone and I don't see women as objects).  And that wraps up my disclaimer.  8)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 8:36 pm


I don't think so. You guys know lying is wrong so I don't know why you do it!


Lying? Last time I checked my nose wasn't growing. Toon is the textbook definition of truthful.  ;)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 8:38 pm


HA! Hey it's all fine if someone has an attraction to a character. Character designers try to achieve making their characters look pretty. It's only an issue when things start to get creepy. The amount of creepy/weird fanart I see on the internet is crazy. But there is nothing wrong with liking the way a certain character looks. I can see a male video game character and say "Hey he looks pretty cool" or a female character and say "Hey she looks pretty". That's normal. But when I start drawing weird fanart of the character and writing fanfiction then things start to become a problem.

But just like you I prefer to go for real women. Can never beat the real thing (also I'm sorry if any female is upset that I used the word "thing" when talking about women. I was just using the old saying is all. Didn't mean to offend anyone and I don't see women as objects).  And that wraps up my disclaimer.  8)


I sure do agree. 8)

These anime cartoon fans don't understand this, though. They got their "waffifus" and crap and think "I don't need no real woman!"


Lying? Last time I checked my nose wasn't growing. Toon is the textbook definition of truthful.  ;)


Toon is the textbook definition of untruthful. I know the 80's and I'd know such disgusting filth would not exist back then! >:(


I had the hots for the DBZ dudes, especially when their shirts got progressively more revealing as the episodes dragged on.

Okay, this thread has taken way too many dark turns for one day  ;D


Would you say the DBZ boys are your "husbandafus"?

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/23/16 at 8:40 pm


http://memesvault.com/wp-content/uploads/Disappointed-Meme-Face-17.png
Seriously, mate?!
I never had an attraction towards cartoon characters. Thing about cartoon characters is that being in a relationship is impossible anyways. So I'm confused as to why people like cartoon characters to the point where they even fall in love. I've always been more interested in real women. Although at the moment I'm currently trying to handle my own business before I consider another relationship.


I don't think we should mention furries that much. I mean, I'm a bit of a furry (nor do I make sexual Sonic fanart), but I just want this thread to be all about what OP was talking about back in '08.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/23/16 at 8:41 pm


Toon is the textbook definition of untruthful. I know the 80's and I'd know such disgusting filth would not exist back then! >:(


Look dude, I get it. Furries weren't really that popular until the mid 2000s, since they weren't really that noticeable until then. But I think they were more significant throughout this decade than the '00s.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 8:46 pm


I don't think we should mention furries that much. I mean, I'm a bit of a furry (nor do I make sexual Sonic fanart), but I just want this thread to be all about what OP was talking about back in '08.


Whoa whoa! Sorry about that, mate. I didn't mean to make you feel nervous or upset. We're just having some fun. And boy did we go off topic!  :o
But anyways my apologies for taking part in those furry discussion. If there is anything that I said that made you upset then let me know and I'll own up to it.  8)


Look dude, I get it. Furries weren't really that popular until the mid 2000s, since they weren't really that noticeable until then. But I think they were more significant throughout this decade than the '00s.


Well in truth it's been popular since 1983-Present.

But anyways back to the on topic discussion. As mentioned before I'm still working on the 2nd collage. Due to having more space and characters to put in it's going to take more time. Trying to make sure I get things right. I should have things up by tomorrow hopefully.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/23/16 at 8:48 pm


Whoa whoa! Sorry about that, mate. I didn't mean to make you feel nervous or upset. We're just having some fun. And boy did we go off topic!  :o
But anyways my apologies for taking part in those furry discussion. If there is anything that I said that made you upset then let me know and I'll own up to it.  8)


Nah, I'm not really upset. Besides, I was the one who mentioned about Sonic OCs. It's just that I don't want to talk about furry culture in a nostalgic website.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 8:49 pm

So I can't bring up the fact that grunge furry fans exist anymore?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/GR_MFF2006_Fursuiters_BJ_Buttons_and_Cobalt_balloons_crop.jpg/800px-GR_MFF2006_Fursuiters_BJ_Buttons_and_Cobalt_balloons_crop.jpg

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/23/16 at 8:51 pm


So I can't bring up the fact that grunge furry fans exist, anymore?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/GR_MFF2006_Fursuiters_BJ_Buttons_and_Cobalt_balloons_crop.jpg/800px-GR_MFF2006_Fursuiters_BJ_Buttons_and_Cobalt_balloons_crop.jpg


There were grunge furry fans? Damn. I never knew they were nostalgic over teen/adult pop culture. Usually, they'll be nostalgic over their childhoods from the 80s or 90s, since most of them are adults.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 8:51 pm


I sure do agree. 8)

These anime cartoon fans don't understand this, though. They got their "waffifus" and crap and think "I don't need no real woman!"

Toon is the textbook definition of untruthful. I know the 80's and I'd know such disgusting filth would not exist back then! >:(

Would you say the DBZ boys are your "husbandafus"?


It's waifu, not wafifu :P Waifus are hillarious. Me and my friends played a prank on another school club, we ordered a waifu pillow and put it up against their club room window and left the door open LOL. The place gets a lot of foot traffic. The mass hysteria it caused was the talk for weeks. ;D

Husbandos are just the husbands of Waifus. I don't think Anime Husbandos exist.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 8:51 pm


So I can't bring up the fact that grunge furry fans exist, anymore?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/GR_MFF2006_Fursuiters_BJ_Buttons_and_Cobalt_balloons_crop.jpg/800px-GR_MFF2006_Fursuiters_BJ_Buttons_and_Cobalt_balloons_crop.jpg


Maybe some other time, Jordan. Now back to the cartoons nostalgia! Jordan, go by me a DVD set of all the Pelswick episodes!

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/23/16 at 8:53 pm


It's waifu, not wafifu :P Waifus are hillarious. Me and my friends played a prank on another school club, we ordered a waifu pillow and put it up against their club room window and left the door open LOL. The place gets a lot of foot traffic. The mass hysteria it caused was the talk for weeks. ;D

Husbandos are just the husbands of Waifus. I don't think Anime Husbandos exist.


They don't. It's pretty much vague for anime fans to talk about husbandos, since the term doesn't exist to anybody.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 8:54 pm


It's waifu, not wafifu :P Waifus are hillarious. Me and my friends played a prank on another school club, we ordered a waifu pillow and put it up against their club room window and left the door open LOL. The place gets a lot of foot traffic. The mass hysteria it caused was the talk for weeks. ;D

Husbandos are just the husbands of Waifus. I don't think Anime Husbandos exist.


Uhh, this would be funny if I knew what a "waifu pillow" is. No, I'm not googling nothin'!

So you don't have a DBZ husbando? Remember, cartoon attractions make no sense! Humans are the way to go.


Maybe some other time, Jordan. Now back to the cartoons nostalgia! Jordan, go by me a DVD set of all the Pelswick episodes!


Why would I buy you a set? ??? No, you buy me a set, Toon. That show ran from 2000 to 2002 so let's stay true to 2000 to 2002 and buy it for me on VHS.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 8:58 pm

An intro about a guy in a wheelchair doing some extreme things. Yep! We're looking at a Y2K influenced show.
_sQBy-eYEHA

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 9:02 pm


Why would I buy you a set? ??? No, you buy me a set, Toon. That show ran from 2000 to 2002 so let's stay true to 2000 to 2002 and buy it for me on VHS.


Me? Buy you a VHS?
NIgfiSzCy1o
Buy my a VHS set then MAYBE I'll consider getting you one.

Also I can't get enough of that laughter he makes. Always funny.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/23/16 at 9:02 pm

Shifting the topic here, look at some of these 1999 Cartoon Network promos and bumpers I found. I had no idea some of these shows were still around at the time, like The What A Cartoon Show.

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Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 9:04 pm


An intro about a guy in a wheelchair doing some extreme things. Yep! We're looking at a Y2K influenced show.
_sQBy-eYEHA


Man, that intro is so rad. That was our lives from 1998-2002, if only we could be stuck in those years forever! :\'(

Dude, there's an episode titled "Blink and you're at 182" that is so sick! Only in 1998-2002 were making blink-182 references the thing to do.


Me? Buy you a VHS?
NIgfiSzCy1o

Buy my a VHS set then MAYBE I'll consider getting you one.

Also I can't get enough of that laughter he makes. Always funny.


No way! You should get me the tapes. A good deed should be enough of a reward for you! After you're done getting me some Pelswick VHS tapes, wanna get me this, too?
http://blink182collection.weebly.com/uploads/1/1/6/6/1166596/6403810_orig.jpg

I already got a copy but it'd be nice if you could buy me a spare.

JJ is the best!

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 9:06 pm


Shifting the topic here, look at some of these 1999 Cartoon Network promos and bumpers I found. I had no idea some of these shows were still around at the time, like The What A Cartoon Show.

VZ3yuaWqsbc k29hdVyg4sU

-aNqEZxU330 x7W98LVymas


Just makes me miss Powerhouse Cartoon Network even more. Also I won that Chuck E Cheese Galaxy 5000 movie for VHS. ........I recommend that you don't watch it.  :(

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 9:06 pm


Uhh, this would be funny if I knew what a "waifu pillow" is. No, I'm not googling nothin'!

So you don't have a DBZ husbando? Remember, cartoon attractions make no sense! Humans are the way to go.

Why would I buy you a set? ??? No, you buy me a set, Toon. That show ran from 2000 to 2002 so let's stay true to 2000 to 2002 and buy it for me on VHS.


There is a large gay/lesbian/trans fandom for the video game series Shin Megami Tensei: Persona. It is one of the few video game series from the 90s/2000s with LGBT characters so you can't even bag on me for that one :P The straight characters/waifus of that game have a much larger fandom though.

Edit: lol this post came at the worst time. Continue on with the discussion of normal cartoons  ;D

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 9:09 pm


Man, that intro is so rad. That was our lives from 1998-2002, if only we could be stuck in those years forever! :\'(

Dude, there's an episode titled "Blink and you're at 182" that is so sick! Only in 1998-2002 were making blink-182 references the thing to do.

I didn't even know Blink 182 was referenced. That's pretty cool.  :o I like the Pelswick intro and the music that plays during it.


After you're done getting me some Pelswick VHS tapes, wanna get me this, too?
http://blink182collection.weebly.com/uploads/1/1/6/6/1166596/6403810_orig.jpg

I already got a copy but it'd be nice if you could buy me a spare.


Do I look like the type of guy who gets things for people?

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 9:11 pm


There is a large gay/lesbian/trans fandom for the video game series Shin Megami Tensei: Persona. It is one of the few video game series from the 90s/2000s with LGBT characters so you can't even bag on me for that one :P The straight characters/waifus of that game have a much larger fandom though.


I totally can! I don't care who or what is into these things but these anime cartoons are just too weird! >:( We should take anime and all it's fans and blast it up to Mars.


I didn't even know Blink 182 was referenced. That's pretty cool.  :o I like the Pelswick intro and the music that plays during it.


Yeah, it is! The theme is some rad Ska Punk music! You can totally tell it's a Y2K era show just because of that episode title. Ah, the glory days of blink-182...


Do I look like the type of guy who gets things for people?


You sure do! After that, wanna get me a spare copy of the Sum 41 VHS, too?

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 9:11 pm

Now when speaking on topic I'm actually curious on how people will look back on this decade in terms of animation. And I'm still wondering on what the '20s will be like for animation. Funny thing is back in 2010-2011 I remember HATING the '10s in terms of animation. I thought shows like Adventure Time and Regular Show were terrible shows. I didn't like the artstyle or the characters. By 2012 I ended up loving the shows for some reason. Liked everything about them and the cartoons that came after like Gravity Falls and  Mickey Mouse 2013.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/23/16 at 9:17 pm


Now when speaking on topic I'm actually curious on how people will look back on this decade in terms of animation. And I'm still wondering on what the '20s will be like for animation. Funny thing is back in 2010-2011 I remember HATING the '10s in terms of animation. I thought shows like Adventure Time and Regular Show were terrible shows. I didn't like the artstyle or the characters. By 2012 I ended up loving the shows for some reason. Liked everything about them and the cartoons that came after like Gravity Falls and  Mickey Mouse 2013.


So far, I actually think the year 2010 in general, was one of the greatest years for cartoons of all time. It really set the tone for how good of a decade this was going to be for animation. I don't care what anybody says. A year that gave us Adventure Time, Regular Show, Scooby-Doo Mystery Incorporated, Archer, Young Justice, Avengers Earth Mightiest Heroes, MAD (based off comics), and Generator Rex. No one could ask for more. I'd consider 2010 as a year for cartoons as better than over half of the 2000's years, and I was 14 already grown out of kid shows by then.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 9:18 pm


Yeah, it is! The theme is some rad Ska Punk music! You can totally tell it's a Y2K era show just because of that episode title. Ah, the glory days of blink-182...

You sure do! After that, wanna get me a spare copy of the Sum 41 VHS, too?


Now if only Pelswick wasn't so short. I think it  only lasted for about 2 seasons with 26 episodes. And some even forgot the show even existed. I thought the show was pretty cool.

Also I can't get you any VHS of Pelswick due to there not being one apparently. :\'( As for that Sum 41 VHS I can't because I'm saving my money for a rainy day.  8)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/23/16 at 9:20 pm


Now if only Pelswick wasn't so short. I think it  only lasted for about 2 seasons with 26 episodes. And some even forgot the show even existed. I thought the show was pretty cool.

Also I can't get you any VHS of Pelswick due to there not being one apparently. :\'( As for that Sum 41 VHS I can't because I'm saving my money for a rainy day.  8)


Me too. I'm watching the blink 182 episode and right off the bat he makes a Kid Rock reference! That's hilarious! But yeah, it had a pretty short run like most Y2K era shows.

Man, that sucks! Pelswick deserves to be on VHS! Buying me the Sum 41 VHS is for a good cause, though! Charity, Toon. It's called charity. 

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/23/16 at 9:24 pm


So far, I actually think the year 2010 in general, was one of the greatest years for cartoons of all time. It really set the tone for how good of a decade this was going to be for animation. I don't care what anybody says. A year that gave us Adventure Time, Regular Show, Scooby-Doo Mystery Incorporated, Archer, Young Justice, Avengers Earth Mightiest Heroes, MAD (based off comics), and Generator Rex. No one could ask for more. I'd consider 2010 as a year for cartoons as better than over half of the 2000's years, and I was 14 already grown out of kid shows by then.


It was a good year for cartoons. All of which that you mentioned ended up being shows with a lot of critical praise and tons of fans. Funny to think it all happened at the very start of the 2010s.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 9:31 pm


So far, I actually think the year 2010 in general, was one of the greatest years for cartoons of all time. It really set the tone for how good of a decade this was going to be for animation. I don't care what anybody says. A year that gave us Adventure Time, Regular Show, Scooby-Doo Mystery Incorporated, Archer, Young Justice, Avengers Earth Mightiest Heroes, MAD (based off comics), and Generator Rex. No one could ask for more. I'd consider 2010 as a year for cartoons as better than over half of the 2000's years, and I was 14 already grown out of kid shows by then.


I agree, I can't even hate. 2010s has been a very decent decade for cartoons. When my sister was 5-8 and watched cartoons, I pretty much enjoyed whatever she was watching. Most were high quality. Unfortunately kids these days are more obsessed with Disney Sitcoms rather than these great cartoons :(

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 02/23/16 at 9:36 pm

Question for Toon: how's your new collage coming along? In my opinion it should not include channel logos or anything superfluous, just add some more characters and put "2000-2005: The GOAT Era" or something like that at the bottom.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/23/16 at 9:44 pm


I agree, I can't even hate. 2010s has been a very decent decade for cartoons. When my sister was 5-8 and watched cartoons, I pretty much enjoyed whatever she was watching. Most were high quality. Unfortunately kids these days are more obsessed with Disney Sitcoms rather than these great cartoons :(


It actually socks that kids today have the sh*ttiest sitcoms on either Disney or Nick.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/16 at 9:50 pm


It actually socks that kids today have the sh*ttiest sitcoms on either Disney or Nick.


Ugh, yeah. This Austin & Ally, Shake It Up and The Next Step shows are very lame.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/23/16 at 9:55 pm


Ugh, yeah. This Austin & Ally, Shake It Up and The Next Step shows are very lame.


I don't know how can they memorable to kids? The 2000s at least had Drake and Josh, iCarly, Hannah Montana, The Suite Life of Zack and Cody, Zoey 101, and Unfabulous to name a few.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/23/16 at 9:58 pm


It actually socks that kids today have the sh*ttiest sitcoms on either Disney or Nick.


I've just realized now, sitcoms in general are in a dark age right now, but probably at its worse ever. I have no idea what's been airing on those kid channels lately because I don't pay attention to it, and even my 7 year old sister who's in 2nd grade mostly watches cartoons on CN and Nick and doesn't really watch Disney Channel or live-action sitcoms on Nick. iCarly and Victorious (to an extent) were the last decent ones, even though I didn't care for these that much since I was older. I think throughout 2001-2007 was the peak of really good sitcoms on TV for the 2000's, starting with Even Stevens and Lizzie McGuire, and ending with the final episodes of That's So Raven and Drake & Josh, including other good ones in the middle like Phil of the Future, Suite Life of Zack & Cody, and Zoey 101. Heck, even when it comes to family oriented sitcoms, there aren't that many popular ones now like the last two decades other than Modern Family from what I can think of. Black-ish and The Middle are ok, but no where near on the same level of greatness as legendary ones like Everybody Hates Chris, Malcolm in the Middle, or Family Matters. During the 2010's other genres of shows like the Walking Dead, Arrow, or the Flash have been more popular.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/23/16 at 10:00 pm


I don't know how can they memorable to kids? The 2000s at least had Drake and Josh, iCarly, Hannah Montana, The Suite Life of Zack and Cody, Zoey 101, and Unfabulous to name a few.


Hannah Montana shouldn't even be in that category LOL, in fact, I hated all of the kid sitcoms that dealt with preteen pop music throughout the late 2000's, Big Time Rush, Jonas Brothers, Sonny With A Chance, and Naked Brothers Band were also others that did the similar thing as well. Except Hannah Montana was worse because the plot in general was way too cheesy and corny.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/23/16 at 10:03 pm


I've just realized now, sitcoms in general are in a dark age right now, but probably at its worse ever. I have no idea what's been airing on those kid channels lately because I don't pay attention to it, and even my 7 year old sister who's in 2nd grade mostly watches cartoons on CN and Nick and doesn't really watch Disey Channel or live-action sitcoms on Nick. iCarly and Victorious (to an extent) were the last decent ones, even though I didn't care for these that much since I was older. I think throughout 2001-2007 was the peak of really good sitcoms on TV for the 2000's, starting with Even Stevens and Lizzie McGuire, and ending with the final episodes of That's So Raven and Drake & Josh, including other good ones in the middle like Phil of the Future, Suite Life of Zack & Cody, and Zoey 101. Heck, even when it comes to family oriented sitcoms, there aren't that many popular ones now like the last two decades other than Modern Family from what I can think of. Black-ish and The Middle are ok, but no where near on the same level of greatness as legendary ones like Everybody Hates Chris, Malcolm in the Middle, or Family Matters. During the 2010's other genres of shows like the Walking Dead, Arrow, or the Flash have been more popular.


The 2010s were only good for its action, horror and drama shows. Cartoons nowadays can be debatable, but they can be decent.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 02/24/16 at 12:26 pm


I agree that real women are always the right path to go. I'll admit I had some cartoon and video game crushes throughout my childhood, but the video game characters were a lot hotter IMO. Some of those Street Fighter girls are so damn fine as hell!

This is probably how most Y2K-era boys felt, but I liked Misty from Pokemon (the anime).

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/24/16 at 12:31 pm


This is probably how most Y2K-era boys felt, but I liked Misty from Pokemon (the anime).


Misty or Princess Peach are cartoon or video game crushes you'd have when you were like 7-11 years old lol.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 02/24/16 at 12:44 pm

I preferred Misty's anime design over her game design, though.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: musicguy93 on 02/24/16 at 1:56 pm


Now when speaking on topic I'm actually curious on how people will look back on this decade in terms of animation. And I'm still wondering on what the '20s will be like for animation. Funny thing is back in 2010-2011 I remember HATING the '10s in terms of animation. I thought shows like Adventure Time and Regular Show were terrible shows. I didn't like the artstyle or the characters. By 2012 I ended up loving the shows for some reason. Liked everything about them and the cartoons that came after like Gravity Falls and  Mickey Mouse 2013.


The only cartoon shows in this decade that I really enjoy are Regular Show, and the new Mickey Mouse cartoon. Though I will say the one issue I have with the Mickey Mouse cartoon is the animation. I have to say that I'm not a huge fan of flash animation. And I feel the choice of using flash for Mickey Mouse really conflicts with the art style. I really like the art style, but I wish they didn't go with flash animation. Other than that, it's a pretty good show. When it comes to art style most of the other cartoons of the 2010s have a very hipstery/noodly vibe to it. And I'm really not a fan of that.

I think the reason why I only like Regular Show and Mickey Mouse is that they are just fun to watch. They don't try to to be "deep". Both shows know what they want to be

. Of course there were older shows that were deep, back in the day. In the 90s there was Batman TAS (though I primarily saw the reruns) and in the 00s there were shows like Avatar: The Last Airbender. But I felt like the drama in those shows was natural, since it fit with the overall tone of the show. That's why I enjoyed those shows.

With shows like Steven Universe, Regular Show, and Gravity Falls, I don't know. I just can't get into them. I feel the drama is out of place. It just feels like it's there just for the sake of trying to be "deep", and I just feel underwhelmed. With shows like Regular Show and Mickey Mouse, I feel like they know what they want to be, yet still keep things fun and enjoyable. Now I'm not trying to offend anyone, I'm just trying to express my own personal and honest thoughts. I respect the opinions of people who enjoy these shows.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/24/16 at 2:00 pm



I would say the 1998-2002 Y2K era was different for kid channels than 2004 and 2005, but the cartoons that began throughout 2000-2004 didn't feel much different though, with 2001 being the best year.

Of course 2001 & 2002 were the best year for kid channels cartoon wise due to the variety at the time, but I was referring to when cartoons of the 2000's decade first came out, and the reason I think 2001 was the best is because it had Shrek, Jimmy Neutron, Samurai Jack, Justice League, The Proud Family, Time Squad, Fairly Odd Parents, Invader Zim, etc. That was an epic year in that part, but 2000 and 2002-2004 were really good years as well.

I agree Mq, 1998-2002 was one kid channels era(Late Gen Y Part 1) and late 2002-2004(Late Gen Y Part II) was another kids channel era. Then the awkward mid 00s transitional kids channel era 2004-mid 2006. with 2004-05 Gen Y kid culture was still dominate and 2005-06 Gen Z kid culture was being ushered in.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/24/16 at 2:07 pm


Yes, 2006 was definitely the year cartoons declined for me. I would even go as early as the 2nd half of 2005, since cartoons like My Gym Partner's A Monkey, Johnny Test, Coconut Fred's Fruit Salad Island, The Buzz On Maggie, and Robotboy were not my cup of tea at all.  8-P

As for the positives, I thought Ben 10 was the best show CN created during the City Era (yeah that's right Foster's). It's the last true CN show I associate with my childhood and it was an amazing series from start to finish IMO, and that's why it ended up having sequels like Alien Force or Ultimate Alien, which I weren't into but I know those were good. Camp Lazlo was OK, the setting was pretty cool, it wasn't my top favorite but I do remember a lot of people liking it though. Same goes for Loonatics Unleashed, but due to me being a huge fan of anything Looney Tunes related I was lucky to enjoy it.

Yep Yep, this ALL THE WAY!

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/24/16 at 2:09 pm


In regards to your last response, it's all good, I wasn't offended at all. It's funny how you're only 3 years older than me, but yet from a kid cultural perspective it feels like you're 4 years older than me since you grew up with 1991 & 1992 born's in your grade and graduated high school in 2010, when I hadn't even started high school yet. So it makes sense that your taste in cartoons are slightly older than mine.

However, I had to LMAO so hard at that photo Toon created with your profile pictures and Sonic mixed together!  ;D

You did start high school in 2010 though... But I get what you're saying he graduated before you were entered! ;D

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/24/16 at 2:10 pm


I preferred Misty's anime design over her game design, though.


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vpzTAo_40FQ/TAfl5zzz7RI/AAAAAAAABmI/u8RdgreT6R4/s1600/DSC_0103.JPG

I... Uhh... I don't even know anymore...

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 02/24/16 at 2:29 pm


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vpzTAo_40FQ/TAfl5zzz7RI/AAAAAAAABmI/u8RdgreT6R4/s1600/DSC_0103.JPG

I... Uhh... I don't even know anymore...

Can I think one version of a character is better-drawn than the other? ;D It doesn't have to do with fictional crushes, just a matter of artistry and aesthetics.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: SpyroKev on 02/24/16 at 2:38 pm


Even shows from Y2K era could be dark. But it certainly wasn't a time where dark shows were common. There were shows like Batman Animated series in 1992 and Batman Beyond in 1999 that had a dark tone to them. But again for everyone 1 dark show like Batman Beyond we'd get 6 bright/wacky shows like Spongebob, Time Squad, Sheep in the Big City, Robot Jones etc in the Y2K era.


Now that you mentioned it, I recall every episode of Batman Beyond taking place at night. Show was really badass with style.

Static Shock was all around positive haha


Misty or Princess Peach are cartoon or video game crushes you'd have when you were like 7-11 years old lol.


I'll agree with you that video game females are more appealing.

I... Uhh... I don't even know anymore...


I hope this subject doesn't bother you. Its only not ok once you take it to the extreme. We love exploring our imagination.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/24/16 at 2:39 pm

Late 2005-2009 era cartoons!
http://static.tvgcdn.net/mediabin/galleries/shows/a_f/ca_ch/chowder/crops/chowder1.jpg http://tbsila.cdn.turner.com/toonla/images/cnapac/content/383/downloadable/flapjack/uk/flapjack_medium.jpg
http://img.sharetv.com/shows/standard/squirrel_boy.jpghttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/0EPSwFDIVqs/maxresdefault.jpg

http://cdn.madman.com.au/images/series/series_camplazlo.jpg https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma5zykKhjc1rq6q5o.png

http://orig06.deviantart.net/cf2c/f/2010/138/8/2/nauto_wallpapers18_by_lowcastillo.jpg http://pre07.deviantart.net/914a/th/pre/i/2013/285/5/1/bleach___by_skycreed-d6q5uk6.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bf/TDCast1.png http://images.zap2it.com/assets/p186110_b_h3_aa/back-at-the-barnyard.jpg
http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/8/f0/4be810bc8314e.jpg http://www.watchcartoononline.com/thumbs/Star-Wars-The-Clone-Wars-Season-6-Episode-3-Fugitive.jpg
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/25100000/TSS-the-secret-saturdays-25145984-400-496.jpg
http://www.virginmedia.com/images/Robotboy-590x400.jpg http://i.onionstatic.com/avclub/5455/97/16x9/960.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/34/The_Emperor's_New_School.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LX8UuEcN8zI/maxresdefault.jpg

http://images.zap2it.com/assets/p189712_b_h3_aa/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-back-to-the-sewer.jpg http://cdn1.sciencefiction.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/deathnote.jpg

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/batman/images/1/19/B-TBatBT.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131004141229

http://images.zap2it.com/assets/p186024_b_h6_aa/the-replacements.jpg

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/24/16 at 2:43 pm


I preferred Misty's anime design over her game design, though.


Eh. Misty wasn't really one of my favorite gym leaders, nor one of my favorite women in Pokemon.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/24/16 at 2:58 pm


Can I think one version of a character is better-drawn than the other? ;D It doesn't have to do with fictional crushes, just a matter of artistry and aesthetics.


Yes, that's allowed.


I hope this subject doesn't bother you. Its only not ok once you take it to the extreme. We love exploring our imagination.


Nah, it doesn't bother me. I don't understand it but oh well. What does bother me is my post count. 2004? 2005? This is ridiculous! 8-P


Late 2005-2009 era cartoons!



This post makes me feel really old considering I don't know a thing you just posted aside from the Emperor's New Groove. I thought it was "New Groove" not "New School". Is that a show spin-off or a sequel?

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Howard on 02/24/16 at 2:59 pm


Samurai Jack is definitely Y2K. Despite the show having a rather dark story, the intro theme strongly captures the Y2K vibe and sound.


When did Samurai Jack air? ???

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/24/16 at 3:00 pm


When did Samurai Jack air? ???


2001 to 2004.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Howard on 02/24/16 at 3:00 pm


HA! This is what happened when I typed in "Slowpoke the hedgehog"!

http://lolbot.net/shared/post_media/images/full_sized/732.jpg

Slowpoke, I didn't know you had a hedgehog form.  8)


;D

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/24/16 at 3:03 pm


This post makes me feel really old considering I don't know a thing you just posted aside from the Emperor's New Groove. I thought it was "New Groove" not "New School". Is that a show spin-off or a sequel?

The MOVIE was called Emperor's New Groove but the SHOW was called New School!

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Howard on 02/24/16 at 3:04 pm


So I can't bring up the fact that grunge furry fans exist anymore?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/GR_MFF2006_Fursuiters_BJ_Buttons_and_Cobalt_balloons_crop.jpg/800px-GR_MFF2006_Fursuiters_BJ_Buttons_and_Cobalt_balloons_crop.jpg


;D

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/24/16 at 3:05 pm


Late 2005-2009 era cartoons!


Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Total Drama Island, Naruto, Bleach, Camp Lazlo, and Ben 10 were the only good or decent cartoons from that list in my opinion.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/24/16 at 3:06 pm


The MOVIE was called Emperor's New Groove but the SHOW was called New School!


So it was a spin off show. Was it any good?

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Howard on 02/24/16 at 3:08 pm


2001 to 2004.


never heard of it.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/24/16 at 3:09 pm


never heard of it.


It's a pretty good show. You said you like cartoons, right? You might like this one.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/24/16 at 3:10 pm


So it was a spin off show. Was it any good?

I actually watched the first few episodes I did like them because I LOVED the movie.... but I lost interest as the year progressed. Mainly due to the fact that I begun to turn away from Disney channel that year because of HM.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/24/16 at 3:11 pm


never heard of it.

Samurai Jack was a BADASS tv show! :D :D :D :D
You'd love it.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/24/16 at 3:14 pm


I agree Mq, 1998-2002 was one kid channels era(Late Gen Y Part 1) and late 2002-2004(Late Gen Y Part II) was another kids channel era. Then the awkward mid 00s transitional kids channel era 2004-mid 2006. with 2004-05 Gen Y kid culture was still dominate and 2005-06 Gen Z kid culture was being ushered in.


The only shift with kid channels I noticed from mid 2002 to late 2002 were Disney's changes. Toon Disney shifted into its updated era with new bumpers & promos, adding on One Saturday Morning shows to the lineup, keeping the Disney Afternoon shows, but removing the syndicated shows. One Saturday Morning changed into ABC Kids, and Zoog Disney changed into just plain Disney Channel and the channel started transitioning over from the Lizzie McGuire/Even Steven era into what would become the That's So Raven era later on.

Cartoon Network during the 2001-02 school year felt exactly the same as the 2002-03 school year with the exception of TOM 3 replacing TOM 2 in Spring of '03. Other than that, Cartoon Network didn't start making big changes until late 2003, which would continue throughout all of 2004. Not 100% sure about Nickelodeon but most of us already know most of its changes were in 2004 as well.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/24/16 at 3:41 pm


The only shift with kid channels I noticed from mid 2002 to late 2002 were Disney's changes. Toon Disney shifted into its updated era with new bumpers & promos, adding on One Saturday Morning shows to the lineup, keeping the Disney Afternoon shows, but removing the syndicated shows. One Saturday Morning changed into ABC Kids, and Zoog Disney changed into just plain Disney Channel and the channel started transitioning over from the Lizzie McGuire/Even Steven era into what would become the That's So Raven era later on.

Cartoon Network during the 2001-02 school year felt exactly the same as the 2002-03 school year with the exception of TOM 3 replacing TOM 2 in Spring of '03. Other than that, Cartoon Network didn't start making big changes until late 2003, which would continue throughout all of 2004. Not 100% sure about Nickelodeon but most of us already know most of its changes were in 2004 as well.

Well, acutally if you look deeper they had their differences! I'll do my best to sum it up in pictures!

Late 1998- mid 2002 era (Y2k era)!
https://lightraft.com/static/images/articles/attention-90s-children-the-old-nickelodeon-is-back.png https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ytqS1SqpNu8/maxresdefault.jpg

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/5/55/Fox_Kids.png/revision/latest?cb=20100522133819

http://orig06.deviantart.net/5d04/f/2013/203/5/5/kids__wb_2000_poster_folded_by_obrk-d6eksm0.jpg http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/6/64/One_Saturday_Morning.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130818040712

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/f7/43/ec/f743ecfaf26717c7699db769bad60840.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HmVFSx5ZrfA/maxresdefault.jpg

http://4vector.com/i/free-vector-toon-disney-channel_041075_toon-disney-channel.pnghttps://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_log1uoosTH1qhi766o1_500.png http://orig14.deviantart.net/a884/f/2011/355/5/0/nba_on_nbc_by_cgbam1989-d4jtue7.jpg
http://img13.deviantart.net/1153/i/2013/204/4/0/toonami__t_o_m__1_era_wallpaper_by_jpreckless2444-d6evawj.jpg


http://img06.deviantart.net/8c25/i/2013/268/2/1/toonami__t_o_m__2_0_era_wallpaper_by_jpreckless2444-d6nw5ge.jpg

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/24/16 at 3:46 pm


Late 2005-2009 era cartoons!


The era seems alright, but very late '00s cartoons don't really have the appeal compared to early-mid '00s cartoons.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/24/16 at 3:47 pm

Now....Late 2002- mid 2004 era! :o
http://img09.deviantart.net/f8f2/i/2011/186/9/0/cartoon_cartoons___color_by_ssgba1380-d25yiwc.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CDEw76Yq8HA/hqdefault.jpg

http://www.disney-pal.com/DisneyHollywoodStudios/images/playhouse_disney_store_02_large.jpg http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logos2/images/c/c2/ABC_Kids_Logo.svg/revision/latest?cb=20140608120636

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hRB2PrjBaOU/hqdefault.jpg http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/logosfake/images/5/52/Toon_Disney_Britania_current_logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20140212022400

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HCDzupi4yBY/maxresdefault.jpg http://orig10.deviantart.net/948d/f/2015/246/7/d/kids__wb_from_my_childhood__1990_2006__by_craigs1996-d989qwu.jpg

http://1u88jj3r4db2x4txp44yqfj1.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/pokemon-cartoon.jpg http://the-artifice.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/yugiohseason1netflix.jpg

http://cdn.iofferphoto.com/img/wantad/204/967/2/teamo.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/82/Fillmore!.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9c/NBA_on_ABC.svg/930px-NBA_on_ABC.svg.png
http://orig11.deviantart.net/5061/f/2012/211/a/c/tom__the_definition_of__swag_by_jmp2444-d597dh9.png

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Howard on 02/24/16 at 4:25 pm


It's a pretty good show. You said you like cartoons, right? You might like this one.


I don't think I've seen it before.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/24/16 at 9:11 pm


Well, acutally if you look deeper they had their differences! I'll do my best to sum it up in pictures!

Late 1998- mid 2002 era (Y2k era)!
https://lightraft.com/static/images/articles/attention-90s-children-the-old-nickelodeon-is-back.png https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ytqS1SqpNu8/maxresdefault.jpg

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/5/55/Fox_Kids.png/revision/latest?cb=20100522133819

http://orig06.deviantart.net/5d04/f/2013/203/5/5/kids__wb_2000_poster_folded_by_obrk-d6eksm0.jpg http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/6/64/One_Saturday_Morning.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130818040712

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/f7/43/ec/f743ecfaf26717c7699db769bad60840.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HmVFSx5ZrfA/maxresdefault.jpg

http://4vector.com/i/free-vector-toon-disney-channel_041075_toon-disney-channel.pnghttps://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_log1uoosTH1qhi766o1_500.png http://orig14.deviantart.net/a884/f/2011/355/5/0/nba_on_nbc_by_cgbam1989-d4jtue7.jpg
http://img13.deviantart.net/1153/i/2013/204/4/0/toonami__t_o_m__1_era_wallpaper_by_jpreckless2444-d6evawj.jpg


http://img06.deviantart.net/8c25/i/2013/268/2/1/toonami__t_o_m__2_0_era_wallpaper_by_jpreckless2444-d6nw5ge.jpg


Now....Late 2002- mid 2004 era! :o
http://img09.deviantart.net/f8f2/i/2011/186/9/0/cartoon_cartoons___color_by_ssgba1380-d25yiwc.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CDEw76Yq8HA/hqdefault.jpg

http://www.disney-pal.com/DisneyHollywoodStudios/images/playhouse_disney_store_02_large.jpg http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logos2/images/c/c2/ABC_Kids_Logo.svg/revision/latest?cb=20140608120636

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hRB2PrjBaOU/hqdefault.jpg http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/logosfake/images/5/52/Toon_Disney_Britania_current_logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20140212022400

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HCDzupi4yBY/maxresdefault.jpg http://orig10.deviantart.net/948d/f/2015/246/7/d/kids__wb_from_my_childhood__1990_2006__by_craigs1996-d989qwu.jpg

http://1u88jj3r4db2x4txp44yqfj1.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/pokemon-cartoon.jpg http://the-artifice.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/yugiohseason1netflix.jpg

http://cdn.iofferphoto.com/img/wantad/204/967/2/teamo.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/82/Fillmore!.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9c/NBA_on_ABC.svg/930px-NBA_on_ABC.svg.png
http://orig11.deviantart.net/5061/f/2012/211/a/c/tom__the_definition_of__swag_by_jmp2444-d597dh9.png



You did your best alright. This is gonna be fun.....

As for Playhouse Disney, I know this one by heart, 1998-2000 was all about Bear in the Big Blue House, Out of the Box, Rollie Pollie Ollie, PB&J Otter, Madeline, New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, and Little Mermaid. 2001-2003 was all about The Wiggles, The Book of Pooh (which was terrible), and Stanley.

Now here's where things get funky. You got the Toon Disney logos mixed up. I understand the changes Disney went through with its kid networks from mid 2002 to late 2002 can be very confusing. However, this is how it actually went. From 1998-mid 2001 Toon Disney only used its 1st logo. From late 2001-mid 2002 Toon Disney mixed up the 1st logo and 2nd logo together between its bumpers and promos. From late 2002-mid 2004 Toon Disney only used its 2nd logo. Then from September 2004 onto the rest of the time the channel existed it used its 3rd and final logo which was finally updated to look similar to Disney Channel at the time. Here's the confusion. Even though Disney Channel got rid of it's Zoog era into plain Disney Channel in late 2002, Toon Disney still kept their 2nd logo similar to the old Disney Channel one for a while until mid/late 2004. I noticed it too when I was little. I always wondered why throughout 2003 and half of 2004, why did Toon Disney's logo still looked like the old Zoog logo while Disney Channel had already updated theirs? Yeah, it can get confusing, but I understood it fully.

April 1998-August 2002
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/6/63/Toon-disney-poster.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150102174941


September 2001-August 2004
http://4vector.com/i/free-vector-toon-disney-channel_041075_toon-disney-channel.png


September 2004-February 2009
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/2/23/Toon_Disney.png/revision/latest?cb=20121209131939


Oh, and I completely forgot about FOX Kids changing into FOX-BOX, that goes to show you how irrelevant the block was to me growing up since I never watched it! ;D

Now as for Kids WB, I always say that late 2000-early/mid 2005 was the silver age for the block, since that's when it was mostly action & kiddy anime based. Shows like Jackie Chan Adventures, Static Shock, What's New Scooby-Doo, Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, Megaman NT Warrior, Teen Titans, Xiaoiln Showdown, Mucha Lucha, X-Men Evolution, The Batman, Ozzy & Drix, etc. immediately come to mind. While golden age Kids WB shows like Superman, Batman, Animaniacs, Looney Tunes, Pinky & the Brain, etc. were gone off the air. The only difference is the different type of lineups, like 2001 Kids WB was definitely different from 2004 Kids WB, but it was still the same era when it came to the type of shows that were around. Men In Black, Batman Beyond, and Pokemon would probably be hybrids of Kids WB's golden age and silver age.

As for Cartoon Network, other than TOM 3 replacing TOM 2 in Spring 2003 (which was later in 2002-03 anyway), I still don't see much of a difference between the 2001-02 school year and the 2002-03 school year. Grim & Evil premiered in 2001 while Codename: KND premiered in 2002, both of those shows ended up having most of its episodes throughout CN City. In fact, you could argue that there was a HUGE shift between the 2000-01 school year for Cartoon Network and the 2001-02 school year for the channel. The 2000-01 school year the channel still used regular blue background bumps for the weeknight slots. It was the last time was non-existent, Samurai Jack, Justice League, Grim & Evil, and Time Squad weren't around yet.

By the 2001-02 school year, the channel started a Primetime block and started using jazz music background and bubbles during the weeknights which continued throughout the rest of the era. Samurai Jack, Justice League, Time Squad, and Grim & Evil all premiered which continued on for the rest of the era. Dexter's Laboratory even revived itself during the 2001-02 school year as well. premiered for the first time and started taking a little Cartoon Network space. I'd argue that Summer or Fall 2001 really kicked off the 2nd half of CN's golden age. That's why I feel like the 2001-02 and 2002-03 school years were similar for CN.

For Nickelodeon I'll leave that up to you. All I know is that its Klasky Csupo era was still around and Slimetime Live being replaced by U-Pick Live and that was it. Invader Zim and Fairly Odd Parents were already around by 2001, while Jimmy Neutron started out as a movie in 2001 as well, even though the series didn't come until 2002.

In conclusion, to me, only the Disney stations and FOX stations changes felt noticeable in Fall 2002. What's funny about this is that FOX Family was replaced by ABC Family the year before in Fall 2001, imagined had that happened a year later. Disney and FOX's 2002 changes would have been a lot more drastic!

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/24/16 at 11:15 pm


You did your best alright. This is gonna be fun.....

As for Playhouse Disney, I know this one by heart, 1998-2000 was all about Bear in the Big Blue House, Out of the Box, Rollie Pollie Ollie, PB&J Otter, Madeline, New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, and Little Mermaid. 2001-2003 was all about The Wiggles, The Book of Pooh (which was terrible), and Stanley.

Now here's where things get funky. You got the Toon Disney logos mixed up. I understand the changes Disney went through with its kid networks from mid 2002 to late 2002 can be very confusing. However, this is how it actually went. From 1998-mid 2001 Toon Disney only used its 1st logo. From late 2001-mid 2002 Toon Disney mixed up the 1st logo and 2nd logo together between its bumpers and promos. From late 2002-mid 2004 Toon Disney only used its 2nd logo. Then from September 2004 onto the rest of the time the channel existed it used its 3rd and final logo which was finally updated to look similar to Disney Channel at the time. Here's the confusion. Even though Disney Channel got rid of it's Zoog era into plain Disney Channel in late 2002, Toon Disney still kept their 2nd logo similar to the old Disney Channel one for a while until mid/late 2004. I noticed it too when I was little. I always wondered why throughout 2003 and half of 2004, why did Toon Disney's logo still looked like the old Zoog logo while Disney Channel had already updated theirs? Yeah, it can get confusing, but I understood it fully.


Now as for Kids WB, I always say that late 2000-early/mid 2005 was the silver age for the block, since that's when it was mostly action & kiddy anime based. Shows like Jackie Chan Adventures, Static Shock, What's New Scooby-Doo, Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, Megaman NT Warrior, Teen Titans, Xiaoiln Showdown, Mucha Lucha, X-Men Evolution, The Batman, Ozzy & Drix, etc. immediately come to mind. While golden age Kids WB shows like Superman, Batman, Animaniacs, Looney Tunes, Pinky & the Brain, etc. were gone off the air. The only difference is the different type of lineups, like 2001 Kids WB was definitely different from 2004 Kids WB, but it was still the same era when it came to the type of shows that were around. Men In Black, Batman Beyond, and Pokemon would probably be hybrids of Kids WB's golden age and silver age.

As for Cartoon Network, other than TOM 3 replacing TOM 2 in Spring 2003 (which was later in 2002-03 anyway), I still don't see much of a difference between the 2001-02 school year and the 2002-03 school year. Grim & Evil premiered in 2001 while Codename: KND premiered in 2002, both of those shows ended up having most of its episodes throughout CN City. In fact, you could argue that there was a HUGE shift between the 2000-01 school year for Cartoon Network and the 2001-02 school year for the channel. The 2000-01 school year the channel still used regular blue background bumps for the weeknight slots. It was the last time was non-existent, Samurai Jack, Justice League, Grim & Evil, and Time Squad weren't around yet.

By the 2001-02 school year, the channel started a Primetime block and started using jazz music background and bubbles during the weeknights which continued throughout the rest of the era. Samurai Jack, Justice League, Time Squad, and Grim & Evil all premiered which continued on for the rest of the era. Dexter's Laboratory even revived itself during the 2001-02 school year as well. premiered for the first time and started taking a little Cartoon Network space. I'd argue that Summer or Fall 2001 really kicked off the 2nd half of CN's golden age. That's why I feel like the 2001-02 and 2002-03 school years were similar for CN.

For Nickelodeon I'll leave that up to you. All I know is that its Klasky Csupo era was still around and Slimetime Live being replaced by U-Pick Live and that was it. Invader Zim and Fairly Odd Parents were already around by 2001, while Jimmy Neutron started out as a movie in 2001 as well, even though the series didn't come until 2002.

In conclusion, to me, only the Disney stations and FOX stations changes felt noticeable in Fall 2002. What's funny about this is that FOX Family was replaced by ABC Family the year before in Fall 2001, imagined had that happened a year later. Disney and FOX's 2002 changes would have been a lot more drastic!

Well, I'm looking at the bigger picture of things! ::) Looking back as I'm older, and even going by personal memories; Nickelodeon was actually very consistent from late 1998-mid 2004, the only differences were that Slime time was the evening block from the earlier period and U Pick Live was the block for the latter. but for Cartoon Network if you take away Adult Swim, Samurai Jack, JL ,Time Squad, and Grim & Evil it the 2001-02 school year felt just like the 2000-01 school year in terms of programming to ME. It was just a transitional period, going from the first half of the golden era to the second half of the golden era.

Kids WB this will be a fun one!! :D IMO, Kids WB's golden Age was from late 1997- summer 2001! 2000-2001 season was just a transitional period from the golden age to the Silver Age. With Men in Black, Batman Beyond, while you had newer shows like Jackie Chan Adventures, Static Shock, X-MEN Adventures, and Max Steel on. 2001-02 school year was defiantly the starting point for the silver age when Men in Black and Batman Beyond ended, and Yu gi oh debuted.


Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/25/16 at 12:41 am

I continue to feel old reading this thread.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/25/16 at 12:57 am


I continue to feel old reading this thread.

hahaha!!! ;D  XD :D :D :D :D

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/25/16 at 7:17 am


You're a fan of Nintendo games, right?

Well, what about Metroid?.......

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLxKEZuUwAAmKX9.jpg


I've usually played Nintendo and XBOX games growing up. I wish I had gotten into Playstation though which I regret. I only cared about Nintendo for Mario and Super Smash Bros. related games growing up. I was never a Nintendo fanboy. Although, I did play Star Fox and F-Zero games for it though. The rest of the related games I played, which was on my XBOX were Grand Theft Auto, Battlefield, Crash Bandicoot, Call of Duty: Black Ops I & II, Guitar Hero, Madden, NCAA Football, Need for Speed, Burnout, Assassins Creed, Street Fighter, etc. whether I owned these games or played it with other friends.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 02/25/16 at 8:10 am


Well, acutally if you look deeper they had their differences! I'll do my best to sum it up in pictures!

Late 1998- mid 2002 era (Y2k era)!
https://lightraft.com/static/images/articles/attention-90s-children-the-old-nickelodeon-is-back.png https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ytqS1SqpNu8/maxresdefault.jpg

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/5/55/Fox_Kids.png/revision/latest?cb=20100522133819

http://orig06.deviantart.net/5d04/f/2013/203/5/5/kids__wb_2000_poster_folded_by_obrk-d6eksm0.jpg http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/6/64/One_Saturday_Morning.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130818040712

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/f7/43/ec/f743ecfaf26717c7699db769bad60840.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HmVFSx5ZrfA/maxresdefault.jpg

http://4vector.com/i/free-vector-toon-disney-channel_041075_toon-disney-channel.pnghttps://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_log1uoosTH1qhi766o1_500.png http://orig14.deviantart.net/a884/f/2011/355/5/0/nba_on_nbc_by_cgbam1989-d4jtue7.jpg
http://img13.deviantart.net/1153/i/2013/204/4/0/toonami__t_o_m__1_era_wallpaper_by_jpreckless2444-d6evawj.jpg


http://img06.deviantart.net/8c25/i/2013/268/2/1/toonami__t_o_m__2_0_era_wallpaper_by_jpreckless2444-d6nw5ge.jpg



Now....Late 2002- mid 2004 era! :o
http://img09.deviantart.net/f8f2/i/2011/186/9/0/cartoon_cartoons___color_by_ssgba1380-d25yiwc.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CDEw76Yq8HA/hqdefault.jpg

http://www.disney-pal.com/DisneyHollywoodStudios/images/playhouse_disney_store_02_large.jpg http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logos2/images/c/c2/ABC_Kids_Logo.svg/revision/latest?cb=20140608120636

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hRB2PrjBaOU/hqdefault.jpg http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/logosfake/images/5/52/Toon_Disney_Britania_current_logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20140212022400

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HCDzupi4yBY/maxresdefault.jpg http://orig10.deviantart.net/948d/f/2015/246/7/d/kids__wb_from_my_childhood__1990_2006__by_craigs1996-d989qwu.jpg

http://1u88jj3r4db2x4txp44yqfj1.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/pokemon-cartoon.jpg http://the-artifice.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/yugiohseason1netflix.jpg

http://cdn.iofferphoto.com/img/wantad/204/967/2/teamo.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/82/Fillmore!.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9c/NBA_on_ABC.svg/930px-NBA_on_ABC.svg.png
http://orig11.deviantart.net/5061/f/2012/211/a/c/tom__the_definition_of__swag_by_jmp2444-d597dh9.png



My Core Childhood in a Nutshell 8)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/25/16 at 9:07 am

Now time for some of my favorite modern or recent cartoons that I enjoy(ed) or thought were decent.

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Regf.jpg http://comicsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/adventure-time-logo.jpg

http://www.pointofgeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/star-wars-clone-wars.jpg http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fanon/images/0/04/Total_Drama_Island_poster.png/revision/latest?cb=20130706014839

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/4/4a/Vji4ec930claksbsh1fs_(2).jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151030142430 http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire2/7d31dfaf49397a8cc1e490ccedea04e21422401583_full.jpg

http://www.rotoscopers.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Phineas-and-Ferb-1024x768.jpg http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/340/files/2015/03/bobs-burgers.jpg

https://miketysonlive.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Blog-775-Mike-Tyson-News-3.jpg http://www.medinnus.com/AEMH/images/roster_season_01.jpg

http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/tvbanners/10376284/p10376284_b_v8_aa.jpg http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/e41396a5-4d7d-417f-80e2-ff476031595a/bfc2fb7d-9998-4a35-aa66-a96cc60cdba4.png

http://www.comicrelated.com/graphics/tv/bmbravebold/BatmanBraveBold%20box%20art.jpg http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/tvbanners/8741858/p8741858_b_v8_aa.jpg

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: SpyroKev on 02/25/16 at 10:46 am

I'm already nostalgic for ThunderCats 2011. The new series reminding me of the original could have something to do with it. I actually prefer ThunderCats 2011 over the original now. Man, the 2010s had such a good start.

The Secret Saturdays mysteriously fell off the map. The show had potential. I enjoyed the Total Drama Island series, to. Up until the original cast were replaced, the series got tedious for me.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Howard on 02/25/16 at 3:56 pm


I continue to feel old reading this thread.


20 years older?

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/25/16 at 3:57 pm


20 years older?


I feel 70 years old.

Saayyy... Howard! Have you ever tried googling "Howard the Hedgehog?" I think you can find some neat fan art!

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/25/16 at 4:14 pm


Now time for some of my favorite modern or recent cartoons that I enjoy(ed) or thought were decent.

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Regf.jpg


What is the name of this one? I think I saw a few episodes and really liked it.

Other than that, I also really like Adventure Time, Phineas and Ferb and Rick and Morty. 2010s kids are growing up with really great cartoons.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 02/25/16 at 4:45 pm


What is the name of this one? I think I saw a few episodes and really liked it.

Other than that, I also really like Adventure Time, Phineas and Ferb and Rick and Morty. 2010s kids are growing up with really great cartoons.


It's called Adventure Time and I agree that the 2010's have been pretty good with cartoons. The only exception being Nick, where there lineup is pretty sparse in comparison to the lineups on Cartoon Network, Disney Channl (although only doing slightly better IMO) and Disney XD.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/25/16 at 4:46 pm

Ocarina Dude, you've made an excellent choice picking out the best possible sensei for all things early 00's!

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Howard on 02/25/16 at 4:48 pm


I feel 70 years old.

Saayyy... Howard! Have you ever tried googling "Howard the Hedgehog?" I think you can find some neat fan art!


No I am not interested.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/25/16 at 4:49 pm


No I am not interested.


Hahahaha, suit yourself. :P

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/25/16 at 4:50 pm


It's called Adventure Time and I agree that the 2010's have been pretty good with cartoons. The only exception being Nick, where there lineup is pretty sparse in comparison to the lineups on Cartoon Network, Disney Channl (although only doing slightly better IMO) and Disney XD.


No, that photo is Regular Show! He even said he already knew what Adventure Time was.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/25/16 at 4:52 pm


What is the name of this one? I think I saw a few episodes and really liked it.

Other than that, I also really like Adventure Time, Phineas and Ferb and Rick and Morty. 2010s kids are growing up with really great cartoons.


It's Regular Show. It's the best CN original show of this era in my opinion. I'm pretty sure most of these shows air in your country too.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/25/16 at 5:05 pm


It's Regular Show. It's the best CN original show of this era in my opinion. I'm pretty sure most of these shows air in your country too.


Haha yeah, Canada also has some American channels we didn't have before such as the Disney Channel and Cartoon Network. They launched sometime in the late 2000s I believe.

Also Attack on Titan is massively popular here among people in their 20s here.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/25/16 at 5:06 pm


What is the name of this one? I think I saw a few episodes and really liked it.

Other than that, I also really like Adventure Time, Phineas and Ferb and Rick and Morty. 2010s kids are growing up with really great cartoons.


It's Regular Show.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/25/16 at 6:02 pm


Haha yeah, Canada also has some American channels we didn't have before such as the Disney Channel and Cartoon Network. They launched sometime in the late 2000s I believe.

Also Attack on Titan is massively popular here among people in their 20s here.


Oh wow. Did you guys ever get Toon Disney?

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/25/16 at 6:07 pm


Oh wow. Did you guys ever get Toon Disney?


I don't think Canadians had Toon Disney at all. They probably had YTV, Teletoon, CBC, and other cartoon channels owned by Corus Entertainment.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 02/25/16 at 6:12 pm


Ocarina Dude, you've made an excellent choice picking out the best possible sensei for all things early 00's!


I promis I won't disappoint you! I'd defend the 1997/1998-2002/2003 Era with my Life! I'll be your spiritual successor.

To quote something from that magnificent era of human existence

"Yo Tony Hawk is so EXTREME!!!!!!"

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 02/25/16 at 6:15 pm


I don't think Canadians had Toon Disney at all. They probably had YTV, Teletoon, CBC, and other cartoon channels owned by Corus Entertainment.


Yeah we don't have Toon Disney. I think some of their stuff came on Teletoons or Family Channel though.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/25/16 at 6:16 pm


Yeah we don't have Toon Disney. I think some of their stuff came on Teletoons or Family Channel though.


Oh yeah, I forgot about Family Channel the moment I posted about Toon Disney not being in Canada.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/25/16 at 6:21 pm


I promis I won't disappoint you! I'd defend the 1997/1998-2002/2003 Era with my Life! I'll be your spiritual successor.

To quote something from that magnificent era of human existence

"Yo Tony Hawk is so EXTREME!!!!!!"


Totally rad, dude! We will defend 1997/1998-2002/2003 and spread the message of what the era truly was like! Xtreme respect!

http://martialartslab.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/martial-arts-bow.gif?4f8100

And as our friend says:

http://static.thefrisky.com/uploads/2012/10/15/The-Dell-Dude-400x470.jpg

"Excellent!"

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/25/16 at 6:23 pm


Yeah we don't have Toon Disney. I think some of their stuff came on Teletoons or Family Channel though.


Ah. I forgot about Teletoons and Family Channel.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/29/16 at 3:38 am

Tried to do the collage again. Added things that people wanted (although I think I forgotten a few).

http://oi68.tinypic.com/2uqyszo.jpg

All cartoons that aired in the 2000s. Whether they started in the 2000s or in the late '1990s, but had tons of episodes in the 2000s like Johnny Bravo, Pokemon, Power Puff Girls, Spongebob, Ed Edd n Eddy, Arthur, or Futurama.

Thing still looks like a crowded mess (just may be due to me being terrible at collages), but I guess that's the whole point of a collage.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 02/29/16 at 9:36 am


Tried to do the collage again. Added things that people wanted (although I think I forgotten a few).

http://oi65.tinypic.com/eulv8l.jpg

All cartoons that aired in the 2000s. Whether they started in the 2000s or in the late '1990s, but had tons of episodes in the 2000s like Johnny Bravo, Pokemon, Power Puff Girls, Spongebob, Ed Edd n Eddy, Arthur, or Futurama.

Thing still looks like a crowded mess (just may be due to me being terrible at collages), but I guess that's the whole point of a collage.


Now this is Perfect, Great JOB Toon! The nostalgia is REAL 8)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/29/16 at 10:45 am

I like how you have The Flash as the lone Justice League character on there. Danny Phantom chillin' up there. Sam with some random clothes on! Penny Proud on a random spot on the bottom right corner lol! I'm saving that collage. Although, IMO I think you should have used the logo Disney Channel used from late 2002 onto the rest of the 2000's since that's where most of the 2000's cartoons from Disney Channel came from, but other than great collage man! 9.5/10

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: SpyroKev on 02/29/16 at 10:48 am


Tried to do the collage again. Added things that people wanted (although I think I forgotten a few).

http://oi65.tinypic.com/eulv8l.jpg

All cartoons that aired in the 2000s. Whether they started in the 2000s or in the late '1990s, but had tons of episodes in the 2000s like Johnny Bravo, Pokemon, Power Puff Girls, Spongebob, Ed Edd n Eddy, Arthur, or Futurama.

Thing still looks like a crowded mess (just may be due to me being terrible at collages), but I guess that's the whole point of a collage.


Your good. That's the definition.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/29/16 at 12:22 pm


Tried to do the collage again. Added things that people wanted (although I think I forgotten a few).

http://oi65.tinypic.com/eulv8l.jpg

All cartoons that aired in the 2000s. Whether they started in the 2000s or in the late '1990s, but had tons of episodes in the 2000s like Johnny Bravo, Pokemon, Power Puff Girls, Spongebob, Ed Edd n Eddy, Arthur, or Futurama.

Thing still looks like a crowded mess (just may be due to me being terrible at collages), but I guess that's the whole point of a collage.

You are missing Tommy and chuckie!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(  I would have included them in there. :\'(  Other than that good job! :)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/29/16 at 12:48 pm


Now this is Perfect, Great JOB Toon! The nostalgia is REAL 8)


Your good. That's the definition.

Thanks, Mates.  8)


I like how you have The Flash as the lone Justice League character on there. Danny Phantom chillin' up there. Sam with some random clothes on! Penny Proud on a random spot on the bottom right corner lol! I'm saving that collage. Although, IMO I think you should have used the logo Disney Channel used from late 2002 onto the rest of the 2000's since that's where most of the 2000's cartoons from Disney Channel came from, but other than great collage man! 9.5/10


Awesom! I thought it would be funny to put certain characters in certain locations. Like how Kim Possible supposed to be standing on top of the "2000s Cartoon" text. I should have used the Late 2002 logo. I'll put that on there somewhere. I used the Zoog Disney era logo due to its shape and color filling up the space.


You are missing Tommy and chuckie!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(  I would have included them in there. :\'(  Other than that good job!
:)


I'd put them on their, but I thought people wouldn't consider them 2000s cartoons due to having most of their episodes between 1991-1999 same with their popularity. Shows like Johnny Bravo aired more episodes in the 2000s and was their for 5 years compared to 3 in the 1990s. And while DBZ isn't from the 2000s it didn't get popular in the west due to it not be dubbed. But in terms of popularity in the west DBZ can be seen as 2000s. Although if you're talking about the "All Grown Up" versions than I'd add them. But if you want me to add the baby versions of them I'd do it. I can still include at the moment due to having the original source setup available.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/29/16 at 1:02 pm

I just added the Disney Channel 2002 logo on there. It's behind Danny.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/29/16 at 1:53 pm


I'd put them on their, but I thought people wouldn't consider them 2000s cartoons due to having most of their episodes between 1991-1999 same with their popularity. Shows like Johnny Bravo aired more episodes in the 2000s and was their for 5 years compared to 3 in the 1990s. And while DBZ isn't from the 2000s it didn't get popular in the west due to it not be dubbed. But in terms of popularity in the west DBZ can be seen as 2000s. Although if you're talking about the "All Grown Up" versions than I'd add them. But if you want me to add the baby versions of them I'd do it. I can still include at the moment due to having the original source setup available.


I think the All Grown Up version of Tommy and Chuckie would be perfect for the 2000's cartoon collage instead of the Rugrats versions, and to me, it would symbolize not only that we grew up with All Grown Up, but we also caught the tail end of Rugrats as well. I think you should update this collage, but don't change what's already on there though.

Along with changing to the late 2002 Disney Channel logo, I'd also use this Toon Disney logo vvvv http://cf.juggle-images.com/matte/white/280x280/toon-disney-channel-logo-primary.jpg
instead of the other, and I think it's only fair to include Jetix and Kids WB logos as well. The Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon logos are completely fine though.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/29/16 at 1:59 pm



I'd put them on their, but I thought people wouldn't consider them 2000s cartoons due to having most of their episodes between 1991-1999 same with their popularity.

You should have both their baby and preteen counterparts! Because it was still on from 2000-2004. They even had Rugrats in Paris in 2000 and Rugrats gone wild in 2003.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/29/16 at 2:06 pm


I think the All Grown Up version of Tommy and Chuckie would be perfect for the 2000's cartoon collage instead of the Rugrats versions, and to me, it would symbolize not only that we grew up with All Grown Up, but we also caught the tail end of Rugrats as well. I think you should update this collage, but don't change what's already on there though.

Along with changing to the late 2002 Disney Channel logo, I'd also use this Toon Disney logo vvvv http://cf.juggle-images.com/matte/white/280x280/toon-disney-channel-logo-primary.jpg
instead of the other, and I think it's only fair to include Jetix and Kids WB logos as well. The Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon logos are completely fine though.



You should have both their baby and preteen counterparts! Because it was still on from 2000-2004. They even had Rugrats in Paris in 2000 and Rugrats gone wild in 2003.


Alright. I'll put both original and All Grown Up versions of them. And I'll include the other logos as well as update the Toon Disney logo.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/29/16 at 2:24 pm

Here ya go.
http://oi65.tinypic.com/oqm62p.jpg

Includes all shows that had a big presence in the 2000s I also included both versions of Tommy from Rugrats. His original/All Grown up versions are right next to each other. Also added the other logos and replaced the Era 1 Toon Disney Logo.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/29/16 at 2:37 pm

Since I was one of the most quintessential 2000's children out there. Here's a visual of how watching kid channels was for me growing up.


Kindergarten
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/cartoonnetwork/images/1/1f/Original_Cartoon_Network_logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20120713161358 http://wondersofdisney.webs.com/playhouse/playhousedistitle.gif http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/2/2f/Gpb_kids_beef.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160127173225 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/b/bc/Nickelodeon_Splat_Logo.gif/revision/latest?cb=20111221133811


1st grade
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/cartoonnetwork/images/1/1f/Original_Cartoon_Network_logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20120713161358 http://t4.rbxcdn.com/38e4f21255876160023c22e876eeb80d http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/b/bc/Nickelodeon_Splat_Logo.gif/revision/latest?cb=20111221133811https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TZpboko7tTE/hqdefault.jpg http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/2/2f/Gpb_kids_beef.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160127173225


2nd grade
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/cartoonnetwork/images/1/1f/Original_Cartoon_Network_logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20120713161358 http://t4.rbxcdn.com/38e4f21255876160023c22e876eeb80d http://mosaiconline.hu/online/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/disney.jpg http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/b/bc/Nickelodeon_Splat_Logo.gif/revision/latest?cb=20111221133811https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TZpboko7tTE/hqdefault.jpg


3rd grade
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Cartoon_Network_2004_logo.svg/2000px-Cartoon_Network_2004_logo.svg.png http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/2/23/Toon_Disney.png/revision/latest?cb=20121209131939 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/1/14/Jetix_logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20100522133648 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/5/52/484px-DISNEY_CHANNEL_2002.png/revision/latest?cb=20120112042752 http://assets.fontsinuse.com/static/use-media-items/6/5699/full-664x664/56701c4c/664px-Nickelodeon_logo.png?resolution=0 https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TZpboko7tTE/hqdefault.jpg


4th grade
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Cartoon_Network_2004_logo.svg/2000px-Cartoon_Network_2004_logo.svg.png http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/2/23/Toon_Disney.png/revision/latest?cb=20121209131939 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/1/14/Jetix_logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20100522133648 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/5/52/484px-DISNEY_CHANNEL_2002.png/revision/latest?cb=20120112042752 http://assets.fontsinuse.com/static/use-media-items/6/5699/full-664x664/56701c4c/664px-Nickelodeon_logo.png?resolution=0 https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TZpboko7tTE/hqdefault.jpg


5th grade
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Cartoon_Network_2004_logo.svg/2000px-Cartoon_Network_2004_logo.svg.png http://assets.fontsinuse.com/static/use-media-items/6/5699/full-664x664/56701c4c/664px-Nickelodeon_logo.png?resolution=0 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/5/52/484px-DISNEY_CHANNEL_2002.png/revision/latest?cb=20120112042752

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/29/16 at 2:38 pm


Includes all shows that had a big presence in the 2000s I also included both versions of Tommy from Rugrats. His original/All Grown up versions are right next to each other. Also added the other logos and replaced the Era 1 Toon Disney Logo.


Yep, I'm saving this one! Thanks for the updated collage!

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 02/29/16 at 2:46 pm


Since I was one of the most quintessential 2000's children out there. Here's a visual of how watching kid channels was for me growing up.


Kindergarten
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/cartoonnetwork/images/1/1f/Original_Cartoon_Network_logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20120713161358 http://wondersofdisney.webs.com/playhouse/playhousedistitle.gif http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/2/2f/Gpb_kids_beef.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160127173225 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/b/bc/Nickelodeon_Splat_Logo.gif/revision/latest?cb=20111221133811


1st grade
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/cartoonnetwork/images/1/1f/Original_Cartoon_Network_logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20120713161358 http://t4.rbxcdn.com/38e4f21255876160023c22e876eeb80d http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/b/bc/Nickelodeon_Splat_Logo.gif/revision/latest?cb=20111221133811https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TZpboko7tTE/hqdefault.jpg http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/2/2f/Gpb_kids_beef.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160127173225


2nd grade
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/cartoonnetwork/images/1/1f/Original_Cartoon_Network_logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20120713161358 http://t4.rbxcdn.com/38e4f21255876160023c22e876eeb80d http://mosaiconline.hu/online/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/disney.jpg http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/b/bc/Nickelodeon_Splat_Logo.gif/revision/latest?cb=20111221133811https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TZpboko7tTE/hqdefault.jpg


3rd grade
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Cartoon_Network_2004_logo.svg/2000px-Cartoon_Network_2004_logo.svg.png http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/2/23/Toon_Disney.png/revision/latest?cb=20121209131939 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/1/14/Jetix_logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20100522133648 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/5/52/484px-DISNEY_CHANNEL_2002.png/revision/latest?cb=20120112042752 http://assets.fontsinuse.com/static/use-media-items/6/5699/full-664x664/56701c4c/664px-Nickelodeon_logo.png?resolution=0 https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TZpboko7tTE/hqdefault.jpg


4th grade
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Cartoon_Network_2004_logo.svg/2000px-Cartoon_Network_2004_logo.svg.png http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/2/23/Toon_Disney.png/revision/latest?cb=20121209131939 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/1/14/Jetix_logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20100522133648 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/5/52/484px-DISNEY_CHANNEL_2002.png/revision/latest?cb=20120112042752 http://assets.fontsinuse.com/static/use-media-items/6/5699/full-664x664/56701c4c/664px-Nickelodeon_logo.png?resolution=0 https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TZpboko7tTE/hqdefault.jpg


5th grade
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Cartoon_Network_2004_logo.svg/2000px-Cartoon_Network_2004_logo.svg.png http://assets.fontsinuse.com/static/use-media-items/6/5699/full-664x664/56701c4c/664px-Nickelodeon_logo.png?resolution=0 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/5/52/484px-DISNEY_CHANNEL_2002.png/revision/latest?cb=20120112042752


What were your favorite shows during your K-5th grade years?

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 02/29/16 at 3:43 pm


Since I was one of the most quintessential 2000's children out there. Here's a visual of how watching kid channels was for me growing up.


Kindergarten
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/cartoonnetwork/images/1/1f/Original_Cartoon_Network_logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20120713161358 http://wondersofdisney.webs.com/playhouse/playhousedistitle.gif http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/2/2f/Gpb_kids_beef.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160127173225 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/b/bc/Nickelodeon_Splat_Logo.gif/revision/latest?cb=20111221133811


1st grade
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/cartoonnetwork/images/1/1f/Original_Cartoon_Network_logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20120713161358 http://t4.rbxcdn.com/38e4f21255876160023c22e876eeb80d http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/b/bc/Nickelodeon_Splat_Logo.gif/revision/latest?cb=20111221133811https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TZpboko7tTE/hqdefault.jpg http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/2/2f/Gpb_kids_beef.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160127173225

2nd grade
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/cartoonnetwork/images/1/1f/Original_Cartoon_Network_logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20120713161358 http://t4.rbxcdn.com/38e4f21255876160023c22e876eeb80d http://mosaiconline.hu/online/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/disney.jpg http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/b/bc/Nickelodeon_Splat_Logo.gif/revision/latest?cb=20111221133811https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TZpboko7tTE/hqdefault.jpg


3rd grade
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Cartoon_Network_2004_logo.svg/2000px-Cartoon_Network_2004_logo.svg.png http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/2/23/Toon_Disney.png/revision/latest?cb=20121209131939 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/1/14/Jetix_logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20100522133648 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/5/52/484px-DISNEY_CHANNEL_2002.png/revision/latest?cb=20120112042752 http://assets.fontsinuse.com/static/use-media-items/6/5699/full-664x664/56701c4c/664px-Nickelodeon_logo.png?resolution=0 https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TZpboko7tTE/hqdefault.jpg


4th grade
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Cartoon_Network_2004_logo.svg/2000px-Cartoon_Network_2004_logo.svg.png http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/2/23/Toon_Disney.png/revision/latest?cb=20121209131939 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/1/14/Jetix_logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20100522133648 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/5/52/484px-DISNEY_CHANNEL_2002.png/revision/latest?cb=20120112042752 http://assets.fontsinuse.com/static/use-media-items/6/5699/full-664x664/56701c4c/664px-Nickelodeon_logo.png?resolution=0 https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TZpboko7tTE/hqdefault.jpg


5th grade
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Cartoon_Network_2004_logo.svg/2000px-Cartoon_Network_2004_logo.svg.png http://assets.fontsinuse.com/static/use-media-items/6/5699/full-664x664/56701c4c/664px-Nickelodeon_logo.png?resolution=0 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/5/52/484px-DISNEY_CHANNEL_2002.png/revision/latest?cb=20120112042752


Great list Mqg! It was very interesting seeing the channel changes and interests over the years. Here's mine including My Pre School Years and Middle School Years!



Early Childhood

Transition from toddlerhood to Early Childhood: 1998-1999
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/c/cb/Kids_WB_logo.pnghttps://thedisneybeat.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/90s-one-saturday-morning.pnghttp://image.wikifoundry.com/image/1/55wpaPGUDesKU2k35dhORg53596/GW254H192https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6b/02/3e/6b023e071573ae423c4993789a83864d.jpg

Pre School: 1999-2000
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/c/cb/Kids_WB_logo.pnghttps://thedisneybeat.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/90s-one-saturday-morning.pnghttp://image.wikifoundry.com/image/1/55wpaPGUDesKU2k35dhORg53596/GW254H192https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6b/02/3e/6b023e071573ae423c4993789a83864d.jpg

PreK: 2000-2001
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/c/cb/Kids_WB_logo.pnghttp://image.wikifoundry.com/image/1/55wpaPGUDesKU2k35dhORg53596/GW254H192http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/5/55/New_osm_10.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20130707174503https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/6b/02/3e/6b023e071573ae423c4993789a83864d.jpg


Core Childhood; Part 1

Kindergarten: 2001-2002
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/5/55/New_osm_10.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20130707174503http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/dreamlogos/images/a/a1/Kids'_WB!_Logo_1998-2008.png/revision/latest?cb=20140814024624https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/Cartoon_Network_1992_logo.svghttp://lifecheating.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/nickelodeon1.jpghttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/8/84/ToonDisney_MultiChars.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150106022439http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/3/38/Disney_Channel_2000.png/revision/latest?cb=20121207051408

1st Grade: 2002-2003
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/dreamlogos/images/a/a1/Kids'_WB!_Logo_1998-2008.png/revision/latest?cb=20140814024624https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/Cartoon_Network_1992_logo.svghttp://lifecheating.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/nickelodeon1.jpghttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/8/84/ToonDisney_MultiChars.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150106022439http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/5/52/484px-DISNEY_CHANNEL_2002.png/revision/latest?cb=20120112042752




Peak Childhood/2nd Grade: 2003-2004
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/dreamlogos/images/a/a1/Kids'_WB!_Logo_1998-2008.png/revision/latest?cb=20140814024624https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/Cartoon_Network_1992_logo.svghttp://lifecheating.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/nickelodeon1.jpghttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/8/84/ToonDisney_MultiChars.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150106022439http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/5/52/484px-DISNEY_CHANNEL_2002.png/revision/latest?cb=20120112042752




Core Childhood; Part 2

3rd Grade: 2004-2005
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/9/92/Toon_disney_channel.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120211094633http://assets.fontsinuse.com/static/use-media-items/6/5699/full-664x664/56701c4c/664px-Nickelodeon_logo.png?resolution=0https://www.seeklogo.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/cartoon-network-logo-vector.pnghttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/5/52/484px-DISNEY_CHANNEL_2002.png/revision/latest?cb=20120112042752


4th Grade: 2005-2006
http://assets.fontsinuse.com/static/use-media-items/6/5699/full-664x664/56701c4c/664px-Nickelodeon_logo.png?resolution=0https://www.seeklogo.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/cartoon-network-logo-vector.pnghttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/5/52/484px-DISNEY_CHANNEL_2002.png/revision/latest?cb=20120112042752


Late Childhood

5th Grade: 2006-2007
http://assets.fontsinuse.com/static/use-media-items/6/5699/full-664x664/56701c4c/664px-Nickelodeon_logo.png?resolution=0https://www.seeklogo.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/cartoon-network-logo-vector.pnghttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/5/52/484px-DISNEY_CHANNEL_2002.png/revision/latest?cb=20120112042752

6th Grade: 2007-2008
http://assets.fontsinuse.com/static/use-media-items/6/5699/full-664x664/56701c4c/664px-Nickelodeon_logo.png?resolution=0https://www.seeklogo.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/cartoon-network-logo-vector.png

7th Grade/Transition from Late Childhood to Early Teens: 2008-2009
http://assets.fontsinuse.com/static/use-media-items/6/5699/full-664x664/56701c4c/664px-Nickelodeon_logo.png?resolution=0

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/29/16 at 4:21 pm

Even though I'm a mid-late 2000s kid, my chart will be similar to ocarinafan96 during my core childhood, except that it has more channels.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/29/16 at 6:20 pm

Welp guys here's mine

VERY EARLY CHILDHOOD(1998-1999)

http://img12.deviantart.net/fa39/i/2012/248/3/3/disney_vhs_by_jyounger-d5dpv7v.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f8/Old_Nick_Jr_logo.png  http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140810183601/logopedia/images/e/ec/NICKELODEON_FOOTPRINT_1998_LOGO.png

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/d/db/Where_Preschoolers_Come_First_TV_Guide_Ad.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20061104002517 https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NRBcq57WpJA/hqdefault.jpg


http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/0/2/6/1/4/2/webimg/507216520_o.jpg

http://www.hewlett-woodmere.net/cms/lib03/NY01000519/Centricity/Domain/42/kidsWB_logo.jpg 

http://film-online.org/uploads/posts/2010-09/thumbs/1283356906_logo_foxkids.gif


EARLY CHILDHOOD(1999-00)

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/6/6b/Nickelodeon_OlderSplat.png/revision/latest?cb=20121101125033
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_G_tnmqsQPg/hqdefault.jpg
http://41.media.tumblr.com/9c548e7bf0557e1ca5e793b4b5a479e8/tumblr_nhcq9iDAHi1qzh02bo10_500.png
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/9/9c/PBSKidsDash.png/revision/latest?cb=20121116080331
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f8/Old_Nick_Jr_logo.pnghttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/e/e1/PLAY_HOUSE_DISNEY_BOX.png/revision/latest?cb=20140128210442
http://film-online.org/uploads/posts/2010-09/thumbs/1283356906_logo_foxkids.gif

CORE Childhood(2000-2004/05)

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/8/8d/Cartoon_Network_logo.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20130504100830 http://www.heatwave.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Cartoon_Network_logo.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/85/DisneyChannel1997.png http://www.glaad.org/sites/default/files/Disney-Channel-Logo4.jpghttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/the-disney-afternoon/images/d/da/ToonDisneyLogo.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140818062920
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/BlandToonDisneyLogo.jpg
https://voltech1980.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/picture-20.png
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Gz9F1CvKINE/hqdefault.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/96xyfZQF0bo/hqdefault.jpg
http://orig13.deviantart.net/4a8b/f/2013/299/6/1/fox_box___fall_2004_by_obrk-d6rugpf.jpg
http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/nickelodeon_%5B%5D_jpg.pnghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b7/TEENick_Logo_2005.png https://i.ytimg.com/vi/o_f__7Hujl8/hqdefault.jpg
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/toonami/images/d/db/Toonami_Logo_2000.png/revision/latest?cb=20140221025708


Late Childhood(2005-2006)


http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/cartoonnetwork/images/5/56/709px-Cartoon_Network_logo_2006.svg.png/revision/latest?cb=20120411213746http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/toonami/images/2/2c/Toonami_Logo_2005.png/revision/latest?cb=20150202050027
http://www.glaad.org/sites/default/files/Disney-Channel-Logo4.jpg http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/my-favorite-logos/images/b/b2/TEENick_Orange.png/revision/latest?cb=20140120171942
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/4/4e/Jetix_logo.jpg

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/9/9f/Pink_and_Yellow_Power_Rangers_Toon_Disney_promo.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20150716152357

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 02/29/16 at 8:03 pm


What were your favorite shows during your K-5th grade years?


Cartoon Network
1. Ed, Edd n Eddy
2. Justice League and Justice League Unlimited
3. Dexter's Laboratory
4. Teen Titans
5. The Powerpuff Girls
6. Codename: KND
7. Courage the Cowardly Dog
8. Ben 10
9. Duck Dodgers
10. Johnny Bravo

Nickelodeon
1. Hey Arnold
2. Avatar: The Last Airbender
3. Drake & Josh
4. Spongebob Squarepants
5. Rugrats and All Grown Up
6. Jimmy Neutron
7. Danny Phantom
8. Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide
9. CatDog
10. Rocket Power

Disney Channel
1. That's So Raven
2. American Dragon Jake Long
3. Kim Possible
4. The Proud Family
5. Even Stevens
6. Phil of the Future
7. Phineas & Ferb
8. Suite Life of Zack & Cody
9. Dave the Barbarian
10. Brandy & Mr. Whiskers

Toon Disney (there's only 5 real ones I can rank that I really enjoyed, because looking back a lot of those DA and OSM shows were so cheap since a lot felt like the same thing based of classic Disney movies)
1. Disney's House of Mouse
2. Recess
3. Timon & Pumbaa
4. Gargoyles
5. Aladdin

Jetix
1. Power Rangers Dino Thunder
2. Spider-Man (1994)
3. X-Men (1992)
4. Beyblade
5. W.I.T.C.H.

Kids WB
1. Pokemon
2. Static Shock
3. Jackie Chan Adventures
4. What's New Scooby-Doo
5. Xiaolin Showdown

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/01/16 at 12:36 am


Cartoon Network
1. Ed, Edd n Eddy
2. Justice League and Justice League Unlimited
3. Dexter's Laboratory
4. Teen Titans
5. The Powerpuff Girls
6. Codename: KND
7. Courage the Cowardly Dog
8. Ben 10
9. Duck Dodgers
10. Johnny Bravo

Nickelodeon
1. Hey Arnold
2. Avatar: The Last Airbender
3. Drake & Josh
4. Spongebob Squarepants
5. Rugrats and All Grown Up
6. Jimmy Neutron
7. Danny Phantom
8. Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide
9. CatDog
10. Rocket Power

Disney Channel
1. That's So Raven
2. American Dragon Jake Long
3. Kim Possible
4. The Proud Family
5. Even Stevens
6. Phil of the Future
7. Phineas & Ferb
8. Suite Life of Zack & Cody
9. Dave the Barbarian
10. Brandy & Mr. Whiskers

Toon Disney (there's only 5 real ones I can rank that I really enjoyed, because looking back a lot of those DA and OSM shows were so cheap since a lot felt like the same thing based of classic Disney movies)
1. Disney's House of Mouse
2. Recess
3. Timon & Pumbaa
4. Gargoyles
5. Aladdin

Jetix
1. Power Rangers Dino Thunder
2. Spider-Man (1994)
3. X-Men (1992)
4. Beyblade
5. W.I.T.C.H.

Kids WB
1. Pokemon
2. Static Shock
3. Jackie Chan Adventures
4. What's New Scooby-Doo
5. Xiaolin Showdown



Hey Arnold I could understand, But.... Drake & Josh, and Spongebob better than Rugrats?! ???  GTFO >:( ;D But hey I know it's your opinion. ;)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/01/16 at 1:39 am

Alright, Mq You left me NO CHOICE! :D ;D XD

Preschool-Kindergarten


https://lightraft.com/static/images/articles/attention-90s-children-the-old-nickelodeon-is-back.png https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ytqS1SqpNu8/maxresdefault.jpg

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/5/55/Fox_Kids.png/revision/latest?cb=20100522133819

http://orig06.deviantart.net/5d04/f/2013/203/5/5/kids__wb_2000_poster_folded_by_obrk-d6eksm0.jpg http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/6/64/One_Saturday_Morning.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130818040712

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/f7/43/ec/f743ecfaf26717c7699db769bad60840.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HmVFSx5ZrfA/maxresdefault.jpg
https://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_log1uoosTH1qhi766o1_500.png http://orig14.deviantart.net/a884/f/2011/355/5/0/nba_on_nbc_by_cgbam1989-d4jtue7.jpg
http://img13.deviantart.net/1153/i/2013/204/4/0/toonami__t_o_m__1_era_wallpaper_by_jpreckless2444-d6evawj.jpg


http://img06.deviantart.net/8c25/i/2013/268/2/1/toonami__t_o_m__2_0_era_wallpaper_by_jpreckless2444-d6nw5ge.jpg

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/021/290/attitudeera_crop_north.jpg?w=630&h=420&q=75


1st and 2nd grade

http://img09.deviantart.net/f8f2/i/2011/186/9/0/cartoon_cartoons___color_by_ssgba1380-d25yiwc.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CDEw76Yq8HA/hqdefault.jpg
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logos2/images/c/c2/ABC_Kids_Logo.svg/revision/latest?cb=20140608120636
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hRB2PrjBaOU/hqdefault.jpg http://4vector.com/i/free-vector-toon-disney-channel_041075_toon-disney-channel.png
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HCDzupi4yBY/maxresdefault.jpg http://orig10.deviantart.net/948d/f/2015/246/7/d/kids__wb_from_my_childhood__1990_2006__by_craigs1996-d989qwu.jpg

http://1u88jj3r4db2x4txp44yqfj1.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/pokemon-cartoon.jpg http://the-artifice.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/yugiohseason1netflix.jpg

http://cdn.iofferphoto.com/img/wantad/204/967/2/teamo.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/82/Fillmore!.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9c/NBA_on_ABC.svg/930px-NBA_on_ABC.svg.png
http://orig11.deviantart.net/5061/f/2012/211/a/c/tom__the_definition_of__swag_by_jmp2444-d597dh9.png
http://pic.hqshuaimi.com/uploadimg/2012/0719/20120719110418826.jpg

3rd grade

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/2/23/Toon_Disney.png/revision/latest?cb=20121209131939
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/my-favorite-logos/images/b/b2/TEENick_Orange.png/revision/latest?cb=20140120171942
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/24/Jetix.pnghttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/d/d0/Nick_at_Nite_2002.svg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/200?cb=20091115072747http://4vector.com/i/free-vector-spike-tv-0_030658_spike-tv-0.png
http://www.glaad.org/sites/default/files/Disney-Channel-Logo4.jpghttps://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/948589.jpg
https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/926831.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hNV_vj17puM/hqdefault.jpghttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/SRrzvF__rPQ/maxresdefault.jpghttp://img.soundtrackcollector.com/cd/large/Disney_Channel_Hits_61314.jpg

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/01/16 at 2:10 am


3rd grade

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/2/23/Toon_Disney.png/revision/latest?cb=20121209131939
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/my-favorite-logos/images/b/b2/TEENick_Orange.png/revision/latest?cb=20140120171942
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/24/Jetix.pnghttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/d/d0/Nick_at_Nite_2002.svg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/200?cb=20091115072747http://4vector.com/i/free-vector-spike-tv-0_030658_spike-tv-0.png
http://www.glaad.org/sites/default/files/Disney-Channel-Logo4.jpghttps://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/948589.jpg
http://www.veryhelpful.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/reality_tv_collage.gif
https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/926831.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hNV_vj17puM/hqdefault.jpghttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/SRrzvF__rPQ/maxresdefault.jpghttp://img.soundtrackcollector.com/cd/large/Disney_Channel_Hits_61314.jpg



4th grade

http://cdn.pcwallart.com/images/cartoon-network-old-shows-2005-wallpaper-1.jpg
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/2/23/Toon_Disney.png/revision/latest?cb=20121209131939
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/my-favorite-logos/images/b/b2/TEENick_Orange.png/revision/latest?cb=20140120171942
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/24/Jetix.pnghttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/d/d0/Nick_at_Nite_2002.svg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/200?cb=20091115072747http://4vector.com/i/free-vector-spike-tv-0_030658_spike-tv-0.png
http://www.glaad.org/sites/default/files/Disney-Channel-Logo4.jpghttp://www.video-download-capture.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/vh1-vh1_classic.jpghttps://abagond.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/bet.jpg http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/looneytunes/images/b/b1/TheWBfrogMedium.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140823003009http://pcm-tv.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/TVLandLogo1.jpghttp://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/e7dc4bf1-7b38-4530-b7e6-8854e04087dd/ddcf0f30-4bec-459d-9f2c-0c3685430989.jpg

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 03/01/16 at 9:51 am


Hey Arnold I could understand, But.... Drake & Josh, and Spongebob better than Rugrats?! ???  GTFO >:( ;D But hey I know it's your opinion. ;)


I find Rugrats to be a little overrated for how good it is. Sure it came out in the 90's, but that doesn't give it the right for it to be the absolute best Nick show ever. I find nicktoons like Spongebob Squarepants to be more imaginative to me and you already know how legendary Hey Arnold and Avatar: the Last Airbender were with great story and continuity. Rugrats was the perfect show to watch as a little kid because the characters taught how to use your imagination in the house without getting bored, before all that savvy technology took over our lives.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 03/01/16 at 12:22 pm


Cartoon Network
1. Ed, Edd n Eddy
2. Justice League and Justice League Unlimited
3. Dexter's Laboratory
4. Teen Titans
5. The Powerpuff Girls
6. Codename: KND
7. Courage the Cowardly Dog
8. Ben 10
9. Duck Dodgers
10. Johnny Bravo

Nickelodeon
1. Hey Arnold
2. Avatar: The Last Airbender
3. Drake & Josh
4. Spongebob Squarepants
5. Rugrats and All Grown Up
6. Jimmy Neutron
7. Danny Phantom
8. Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide
9. CatDog
10. Rocket Power

Disney Channel
1. That's So Raven
2. American Dragon Jake Long
3. Kim Possible
4. The Proud Family
5. Even Stevens
6. Phil of the Future
7. Phineas & Ferb
8. Suite Life of Zack & Cody
9. Dave the Barbarian
10. Brandy & Mr. Whiskers

Toon Disney (there's only 5 real ones I can rank that I really enjoyed, because looking back a lot of those DA and OSM shows were so cheap since a lot felt like the same thing based of classic Disney movies)
1. Disney's House of Mouse
2. Recess
3. Timon & Pumbaa
4. Gargoyles
5. Aladdin

Jetix
1. Power Rangers Dino Thunder
2. Spider-Man (1994)
3. X-Men (1992)
4. Beyblade
5. W.I.T.C.H.

Kids WB
1. Pokemon
2. Static Shock
3. Jackie Chan Adventures
4. What's New Scooby-Doo
5. Xiaolin Showdown


Here were my top 10!



Nickelodeon:
http://vector.me/files/images/4/5/45647/nickelodeon.png

1. Hey Arnold

2. Avatar: The Last Airbender

3. Rugrats

4. Spongebob

5. Kenan & Kel

6. Rocko's Modern Life

7. Drake & Josh

8. The Amanda Show

9. Rocket Power

10. The Fairly Odd Parents




Cartoon Network:
http://img13.deviantart.net/6e7b/i/2012/182/6/1/cartoon_network_checkerboard_logo__1992__by_miggygarcia-d55jy7n.png

1. Dexter's Lab

2. Ed, Edd, n Eddy

3. The Powerpuff Girls

4. Code Name: Kids Next Door

5. Courage the Cowardly Dog

6. Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy

7. Johnny Bravo

8. Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends

9. Time Squad

10. Space Ghost Coast to Coast





Disney Channel:
http://cdn1.theodysseyonline.com/files/2015/11/22/635838244461504868-858741778_Disney-Channel-Logo4.jpg

1. Suite Life of Zack & Cody

2. Kim Possible

3. Even Stevens

4. Lizzie McGuire

5. That's So Raven

6. Dave the Barbarian

7. The Proud Family

8. Lilo & Stitch

9. So Weird

10. Phil of the Future




Toon Disney:
http://4vector.com/i/free-vector-toon-disney-channel_041075_toon-disney-channel.png

1. Gargoyles

2. Toad Patrol

3. Chip n Dale Rescue Rangers

4. Darkwing Duck

5. Ducktales

6. Timon & Pumba

7. Aladdin TAS

8. Disney's Doug

9. Pepper Ann

10. The Little Mermaid




Kids WB:
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/dreamlogos/images/a/a1/Kids'_WB!_Logo_1998-2008.png/revision/latest?cb=20140814024624

1. Pokemon

2. Yu-Gi-Oh

3. Batman Beyond

4. Jackie Chan Adventures

5. Animaniacs

6. Static Shock

7. Men in Black

8. Tiny Toon Adventures

9. Histeria

10. Sylvester & Tweety Mysteries



PBS:
http://d43fweuh3sg51.cloudfront.net/static/station/images/PBS-BeMore-logo.png

1. Arthur

2. Zoboomafoo

3. ZOOM

4. Clifford The Big Red Dog

5. Cyberchase

6. Sagwa The Chinese Cat

7. Dragon Tales

8. Thomas & Friends

9. Teletubbies

10. Bob The Builder

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 03/01/16 at 12:28 pm

These are Cartoon Network City bumpers from summer/fall 2006, I believe. Question for Ocarinafan and mqg: do you still find these nostalgic, even though they came at the "tail end" of your childhood?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX6Ak-awDrY

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 03/01/16 at 1:18 pm


These are Cartoon Network City bumpers from summer/fall 2006, I believe. Question for Ocarinafan and mqg: do you still find these nostalgic, even though they came at the "tail end" of your childhood?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX6Ak-awDrY


You sure love asking the same questions over and over again that I've already answered to you multiple times on other sites awhile ago! I wouldn't say "nostalgic", but I loved catching new episodes and repeats of Ben 10, Ed Edd n Eddy, Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy, Codename: KND, and Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends at the time. Toonami still had reruns of Teen Titans and Justice League Unlimited until the end of the year. Teen Titans Trouble In Toyko premiered that year as well. So I focused on the positive. Overall 2006 is my least favorite year of CN compared to all my other main years watching the network.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/01/16 at 5:30 pm

Awesome you guys!  :). Here's mine

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eZoD9V5Alss/maxresdefault.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cf/CBS_Kidshow.jpg

http://www.logopub.net/data/thumbnails/7/FOX%20FAMILY%20CHANNEL.png

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f1/DisneyAfternoonGang.jpg


As for the rest, you guys already know I watched them as I was someone with variety. It didn't matter to me at all.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 03/03/16 at 4:31 pm

Well, since Toon gave me permission, I decided to share his picture on 9gag (I know it's a dumb site, but it's a good place for content to get popular).
http://9gag.com/gag/aGx88Zn?ref=w.upvotenoti

Can people here with Facebook accounts start sharing this link so that it can get more popular?

Also I know Jordan's gonna get mad because I said "2000 to 2005" instead of 2000-2003, but I believe that cartoons took a little longer to decline than other pop culture.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/03/16 at 4:42 pm


Well, since Toon gave me permission, I decided to share his picture on 9gag (I know it's a dumb site, but it's a good place for content to get popular).
http://9gag.com/gag/aGx88Zn?ref=w.upvotenoti

Can people here with Facebook accounts start sharing this link so that it can get more popular?

Also I know Jordan's gonna get mad because I said "2000 to 2005" instead of 2000-2003, but I believe that cartoons took a little longer to decline than other pop culture.


Yeah, Zelek. Super pissed you guys are praising 2003/2004-2005. I don't know what to do now because I'm just so filled with anger about this.

I've never seen this site before in my life until now and after a few minutes of browsing I can confirm I've lost 20 brain cells.

Ah, dude, no. You named it "early 00's cartoons" you shoulda put "early-mid 00's." Now you're just perpetuating the "early 00's = 2000-2005" sh!t.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 03/03/16 at 4:58 pm

Y'know, that montage is half like half dislike/unknown for me exactly because a lot of 2003-2005 cartoons are included ;D

Still great work though. I don't use Facebook and my Twitter is too srs business for this sort of stuff. I would totally share it otherwise though. ;D

edit: actually, I might have not heard of a lot of these because they didn't air in Canada.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 03/07/16 at 11:29 am

Off-topic, but does anyone have that rap video where they compare 1990-2005 cartoons vs. 2006-now ones?

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/07/16 at 1:36 pm

Here you guys go. That video is so hilarious :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G6QBwBQ8rw

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 03/10/16 at 8:27 am


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vpzTAo_40FQ/TAfl5zzz7RI/AAAAAAAABmI/u8RdgreT6R4/s1600/DSC_0103.JPG

I... Uhh... I don't even know anymore...

That's it, I'm coming out and saying it...

THERE IS LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG WITH LIKING FICTIONAL CHARACTERS AND WANTING TO TELEPORT INTO THEIR UNIVERSE AND BE WITH THEM FOREVER!!! MISTY IS MY WAIFU!!!!

POST-87 MILLENNIALS >>>>> PRE-87 MILLENNIALS FOR LYFE.

You old people are just jealous of our hip new ways. ;D

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/Funny/george-jefferson-gance-o.gif
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/Funny/hasselhoffli0.gif
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/Funny/McHammer.gif
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/Funny/gaymower2.gif
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/Funny/stfu.gif

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/10/16 at 8:48 am


That's it, I'm coming out and saying it...

THERE IS LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG WITH LIKING FICTIONAL CHARACTERS AND WANTING TO TELEPORT INTO THEIR UNIVERSE AND BE WITH THEM FOREVER!!! MISTY IS MY WAIFU!!!!

POST-87 MILLENNIALS >>>>> PRE-87 MILLENNIALS FOR LYFE.

You old people are just jealous of our hip new ways. ;D

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/Funny/george-jefferson-gance-o.gif
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/Funny/hasselhoffli0.gif
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/Funny/McHammer.gif
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/Funny/gaymower2.gif
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/Funny/stfu.gif


http://canitbesaturdaynow.com/images/fpics/3425/da98b2197da32b07bde1bf0d9a626dc1.jpg

http://forum.tapastic.com/uploads/default/4713/084d5cdf74be4895.jpg

https://static4.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/What+face+_78d9aaf81a6f9b7902ca1ee371b90428.png

http://healthyceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Will-Smith-Face-Closeup.jpg

https://mustbethistalltoride.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/tommy-lee-jones-face.jpg

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-06/14/17/enhanced/webdr13/enhanced-32618-1434318992-2.jpg

Someone hack your account, Zelek? Or is this because I gave you a lecture on Youtube about 2000-2002? Next you'll be saying "2004-2005 4 lyfe >>>> 2000-2002" which you know isn't true. I don't even want to continue to acknowledge the existence of this "Waiafu" business, either. I'm not jealous because I'd rather have the old styles of frosted tips and chain wallets over your new skinny jeans and pompadours. ;)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 03/10/16 at 8:52 am

I was joking, heh. ;D

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/10/16 at 8:53 am


I was joking, heh. ;D


Though so. That was extremely out-of-character for you, dude. ;D

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 03/10/16 at 10:10 am


That's it, I'm coming out and saying it...

THERE IS LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG WITH LIKING FICTIONAL CHARACTERS AND WANTING TO TELEPORT INTO THEIR UNIVERSE AND BE WITH THEM FOREVER!!! MISTY IS MY WAIFU!!!!

POST-87 MILLENNIALS >>>>> PRE-87 MILLENNIALS FOR LYFE.

You old people are just jealous of our hip new ways. ;D


My cartoon crushes were
*Wheeler from Captain Planet
*Gohan
*Goku
*Kenji from Persona 3
*Akihiko from Persona 3
*Yosuke from Persona 4
*And, I hate to admit it, but, Johnny Bravo.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/10/16 at 10:14 am


My cartoon crushes were
Johnny Bravo.



http://commentphotos.com/gallery/CommentPhotos.com_1393010888.jpg

http://images.uncyclomedia.co/uncyclopedia/en/thumb/5/57/Nelson_haha.jpg/240px-Nelson_haha.jpg

That's hilarious!

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 03/10/16 at 10:20 am

>:( >:( The show was terrible and repetitive too

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/10/16 at 10:22 am


>:( >:( The show was terrible and repetitive too


Johnny Bravo is one of the best shows ever! He taught me how to talk to women.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 03/10/16 at 10:29 am


Johnny Bravo is one of the best shows ever! He taught me how to talk to women.


No wonder you got the sandwich thrown at you lol. "Hey sexy mama"

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/10/16 at 10:32 am


No wonder you got the sandwich thrown at you lol. "Hey sexy mama"


http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Johnny+bravo+was+the+best_b35430_5552733.jpg

That and Beavis and Butthead taught me all I need to know about getting into a woman's heart.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 03/10/16 at 11:39 am


My cartoon crushes were
*Wheeler from Captain Planet
*Gohan
*Goku
*Kenji from Persona 3
*Akihiko from Persona 3
*Yosuke from Persona 4
*And, I hate to admit it, but, Johnny Bravo.


Nothing wrong with that, but...I'm guessing you're gay, right? Just wondering

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 03/10/16 at 12:49 pm


That and Beavis and Butthead taught me all I need to know about getting into a woman's heart.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnGnl-UElVA


Nothing wrong with that, but...I'm guessing you're gay, right? Just wondering


Yeah. I'm guessing if I were straight I would have totally been into that waifu thing. ;D Thankfully husbandos don't exist. Japan saved me from myself.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/10/16 at 12:55 pm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnGnl-UElVA


This is how you do it. This is the only real way to get chicks.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 03/10/16 at 12:59 pm


Thankfully husbandos don't exist. Japan saved me from myself.

I'm pretty sure they do, actually.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/10/16 at 1:05 pm

I just googled "husbandos" and I really wish I didn't...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 03/10/16 at 1:09 pm


I'm pretty sure they do, actually.


LOL I knew about Yaoi, but I don't think people buy husbando pillows or talk about how "my husbando is better than your husbando" etc.  ;D

I always though 'husbando' was basically the husband/owner of the waifu.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/10/16 at 1:10 pm


LOL I knew about Yaoi, but I don't think people buy husbando pillows or talk about how "my husbando is better than your husbando" etc.  ;D

I always though 'husbando' was basically the husband/owner of the waifu.


Think again, dude...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Husbando/

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 03/10/16 at 1:20 pm


Think again, dude...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Husbando/


Last post was a month ago. :P

"Waifu" is an actual dictionary Japanese word. "Husbandos" was made by English speakers to describe themselves as the husband of their waifus, I don't think it's a Japanese word. That's how I always thought it.

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Written By: Zelek2 on 03/10/16 at 1:22 pm

I'm guessing the "husbando" thing is more popular among straight women?

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Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/10/16 at 1:24 pm


Last post was a month ago. :P

"Waifu" is an actual dictionary Japanese word. "Husbandos" was made by English speakers to describe themselves as the husband of their waifus, I don't think it's a Japanese word. That's how I always thought it.


Oh... Well, it existed a one point!

Waifiu is a real word?? I thought that was also something the English came up with to express their creepy fascination with anime cartoons. Japan's a weird place.


I'm guessing the "husbando" thing is more popular among straight women?


That's what I assumed.

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Written By: 2001 on 03/10/16 at 1:50 pm


I'm guessing the "husbando" thing is more popular among straight women?


Is it? I don't think husbando pillows or "date with husbando" is a thing at all.  ;D

The female/gay male equivalent of the whole hentai/waifu business is yaoi, which none of you want to be searching.

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Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/10/16 at 2:14 pm


Is it? I don't think husbando pillows or "date with husbando" is a thing at all.  ;D

The female/gay male equivalent of the whole hentai/waifu business is yaoi, which none of you want to be searching.


What's "yaoi"?

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Written By: Toon on 03/10/16 at 2:16 pm


What's "yaoi"?

Yaoi is a slang meaning 'boys love' or homosexuality that is used in the japanese language.

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Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/10/16 at 2:20 pm


Yaoi is a slang meaning 'boys love' or homosexuality that is used in the japanese language.


https://mustbethistalltoride.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/tommy-lee-jones-face.jpg

I'd shrug it off but considering it's an Anime Cartoon genre... I know there's going to be something much worse behind it...

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Written By: Toon on 03/10/16 at 2:26 pm


https://mustbethistalltoride.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/tommy-lee-jones-face.jpg

I'd shrug it off but considering it's an Anime Cartoon genre... I know there's going to be something much worse behind it...


If you're ever "interested" you can watch some on the internet.  ;) Although I'm not the biggest anime fan. So I can't answer a lot of things related to it.

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Written By: 2001 on 03/10/16 at 2:40 pm



I'd shrug it off but considering it's an Anime Cartoon genre... I know there's going to be something much worse behind it...


It's exactly what it sounds like. :P Although, most of it is literature (fanfinction), rather than visual. But of course the visual exists too.

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Written By: Toon on 03/10/16 at 2:44 pm


It's exactly what it sounds like. :P Although, most of it is literature (fanfinction), rather than visual. But of course the visual exists too.


Good ol' Fanfiction. The thing about written work is that even if there are just words your mind will soon act on its own and you start imaging visual images of what has been stated in the written fanfiction.

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Written By: Howard on 03/10/16 at 4:17 pm

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/Funny/stfu.gif

;D

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Written By: Howard on 03/10/16 at 4:17 pm


Johnny Bravo is one of the best shows ever! He taught me how to talk to women.


and he sounded like Elvis.

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Written By: SpyroKev on 03/10/16 at 5:17 pm


I'd shrug it off but considering it's an Anime Cartoon genre... I know there's going to be something much worse behind it...


Don't bother searching it, man. Its like selling your soul.

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Written By: 2001 on 03/10/16 at 6:16 pm


Don't bother searching it, man. Its like selling your soul.


It's a good prank to play on someone whenever you're bored though.  ;D

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Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/10/16 at 10:48 pm


It's exactly what it sounds like. :P Although, most of it is literature (fanfinction), rather than visual. But of course the visual exists too.


I remember back in 2004 I was looking up information on the Ataris and I stumbled across this fanfiction on LiveJournal that took place in some weird universe where Kris Roe (the singer) was gay. I was severely depressed for weeks upon finding this. No, not because it said he was gay (though, I knew he wasn't but he'd be cool regardless) but because he typed like "omg i luv u brian <3 <3 ohio iz 4 luvrz" No joke.

Is it that bad or worse!?


Don't bother searching it, man. Its like selling your soul.


I don't plan on it. I think I've done enough searching of this Anime stuff.

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Written By: 2001 on 03/11/16 at 4:22 pm


I remember back in 2004 I was looking up information on the Ataris and I stumbled across this fanfiction on LiveJournal that took place in some weird universe where Kris Roe (the singer) was gay. I was severely depressed for weeks upon finding this. No, not because it said he was gay (though, I knew he wasn't but he'd be cool regardless) but because he typed like "omg i luv u brian <3 <3 ohio iz 4 luvrz" No joke.

Is it that bad or worse!?

I don't plan on it. I think I've done enough searching of this Anime stuff.


That's adorable!  :D Although I'm not sure if I could read a fanfic written in 2000s text speak.  ;D

It's worse though, obviously, because it gets more graphic, and has annoying Japanese honorifics.  ;D

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Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/11/16 at 10:50 pm


That's adorable!  :D Although I'm not sure if I could read a fanfic written in 2000s text speak.  ;D

It's worse though, obviously, because it gets more graphic, and has annoying Japanese honorifics.  ;D


Adorable!? More like an abomination! Kris Roe is a serious, respected songwritier who writes thoughtful Pop Punky Emo music! "omg ohio iz 4 luvrz~ <3" just doesn't fly with me! >:(

I will stay far away from that area of the internet!

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Written By: Toon on 03/15/16 at 11:04 pm

Always funny to see when people would say that a certain era of cartoons (mainly the one they grew up with ::)) is the best era and that all the cartoons that existed after that era is terrible. And that anything within the era is a part of a "Golden Era" (I laugh at this due to literally everyone claiming that their era is a Golden era  :P )

According to IMDB (which is literally a place where both media critics AND general public opinions are grouped for 1 final score) cartoons have been doing fine from a critical point. And then we step into the point of subjectivity. Kind of like when people say that TV shows nowadays are terrible despite us being in a new "Golden Age" of television (the first one is from 1947-1960) since the mid 2000s according to most websites/articles anyways.

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Written By: 2001 on 03/15/16 at 11:09 pm

I think the 2010s have been great for cartoons. I wonder who would dispute that.

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Written By: Toon on 03/15/16 at 11:13 pm


I think the 2010s have been great for cartoons. I wonder who would dispute that.


Some would say that the 2010s is terrible. But from what I've seen (not from this site. Mostly on other websites) most people will talk about how cartoons of modern day ("If it's modern then it sucks") isn't as good as the retro cartoons of their childhoods. My childhood ended before we reached 2010 or even saw any bits of 2010s culture coming in. But I like cartoons of the 2010s and am happy that kids today have such greats shows.

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Written By: 2001 on 03/15/16 at 11:39 pm


Some would say that the 2010s is terrible. But from what I've seen (not from this site. Mostly on other websites) most people will talk about how cartoons of modern day ("If it's modern then it sucks") isn't as good as the retro cartoons of their childhoods. My childhood ended before we reached 2010 or even saw any bits of 2010s culture coming in. But I like cartoons of the 2010s and am happy that kids today have such greats shows.


I doubt they've even watched today's cartoons. ::) 2010s cartoons can easily compete with the cartoons I grew up on in the Y2K era.

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Written By: mqg96 on 03/15/16 at 11:44 pm


I doubt they've even watched today's cartoons. ::) 2010s cartoons can easily compete with the cartoons I grew up on in the Y2K era.


Yeah, I think 2010's cartoons can easily complete with all the 90's-early 2005 ones. There's really just as many mediocre cartoons from the early to mid 90's as there were from the late 90's to mid 2000's, but a lot of people tend to focus on the positive 90's cartoons only which makes a lot of people forget about the bad ones that were out there, since most of those were underrated or forgotten. I could argue that the cartoons that debuted from 1992-2004 were the absolute best stretch in modern era, but that's just my bias. Not including the Canadian cartoons you only know unless it aired here in my country.

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Written By: Toon on 03/15/16 at 11:44 pm


I doubt they've even watched today's cartoons. ::) 2010s cartoons can easily compete with the cartoons I grew up on in the Y2K era.


Most likely haven't or just watched maybe 1-2 episodes and base the entire series' quality on those 2 episodes. To me 2010s cartoons are surpass a lot of the shows I've watched in the day. I've stated before that my favorite decades for cartoons are the 1930s-1940s, but I will admit that 2010s cartoons can easily compete with the cartoons from the 1930s-1940s.

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Written By: Toon on 03/15/16 at 11:55 pm


Yeah, I think 2010's cartoons can easily complete with all the 90's-early 2005 ones. There's really just as many mediocre cartoons from the early to mid 90's as there were from the late 90's to mid 2000's, but a lot of people tend to focus on the positive 90's cartoons only which makes a lot of people forget about the bad ones that were out there, since most of those were underrated or forgotten. I could argue that the cartoons that debuted from 1992-2004 were the absolute best stretch in modern era, but that's just my bias. Not including the Canadian cartoons you only know unless it aired here in my country.


Based on IMDB scores I think the 1990s has the least amount of mediocre shows, but it doesn't have the most amount of good shows (which is ultimately the most important since the good shows are the ones you're going to watch anyways) as the 2000s has more than it and the 2010s may also beat the 1990s by the time we reach 2019.

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Written By: Toon on 03/16/16 at 12:02 am

For those of you who don't know what IMDB is it's "an online database of information related to films, television programs and video games, including cast, production crew, fictional characters, biographies, plot summaries, trivia and reviews." It's basically a website where tv shows and movies are rated based by the general public and critics. Scores of 1.0-5.9 are downright horrible, bad, or below average. Scores of 6.0-10.0 are ok, good, great, or perfect. Well these scores are based on many grading scales that other sites and IMDB users use. A 6 is "average". A 7 is good. An 8 is great. 9 is excellent. A 10 is perfect yet impossible to get as nothing is perfect.

Reception of Animation in the 1930s - 2010s. I show each decade. Under each decade I show how many cartoons are in a certain rating range.

1930s
507 Cartoons (1.0-5.9)
726 Cartoons (6.0-10.0)
238 Cartoons (7.0-10.0)
6 Cartoons (8.0-10.0)
0 Cartoons (9.0-10.0)

1940s
344 Cartoons (1.0-5.9)
920 Cartoons (6.0-10.0)
436 Cartoons (7.0-10.0)
15 Cartoons (8.0-10.0)
0 Cartoons (9.0-10.)

1950s
219 Cartoons (1.0-5.9)
814 Cartoons (6.0-10.0)
400 Cartoons (7.0-10.0)
18 Cartoons (8.0-10.0)
0 Cartoons (9.0-10.0)

1960s
340 Cartoons (1.0-5.9)
469 Cartoons (6.0-10.0)
180 Cartoons (7.0-10.0)
24 Cartoons (8.0-10.0)
0 Cartoons (9.0-10)

1970s
7 Cartoons (1.0-5.9)
144 Cartoons (6.0-10.0)
99 Cartoons (7.0-10.0)
26 Cartoons (8.0-10.0)
0 Cartoons (9.0-10.0)

1980s                                                                                     
12 Cartoons (1.0-5.9)                                   
229 Cartoons (6.0-10.0)                               
159 Cartoons (7.0-10.0)                               
38 Cartoons (8.0-10.0)                                 
0 Cartoons (9.0-10.0)                                       

1990s
51 Cartoons (1.0-5.9)
443 Cartoons (6.0-10.0)
314 Cartoons (7.0-10.0)
99 Cartoons (8.0-10.0)
1 Cartoon (9.0-10.0)

2000s
147 Cartoons (1.0-5.9)
609 Cartoons (6.0-10.0)
388 Cartoons (7.0-10.0)
96 Cartoons (8.0-10.0)
1 Cartoon (9.0-10.0)

2010s (as of 2015 so it's not quite fair to judge it entirely. By late 2019 these numbers will change)
98 Cartoons (1.0-5.9)
356 Cartoons (6.0-10.0)
256 Cartoons (7.0-10.0)
95 Cartoons (8.0-10.0)
2 Cartoons (9.0-10.0)


1990s had the least amount of bad cartoons. 2000s had the most amount of good cartoons. 2010s will have the most amount of excellent cartoons (as of 2015 there are 95 cartoons with an 8 or higher, but by 2019 I can see that 95 being 100+ which has never happened in any other decade). Also I'm surprised that the 2010s has 2 cartoons (Rick and Morty and Over the Garden Wall) with a 9.0 or higher as it's VERY rare to see a decade that has even 1 cartoon with 9.0 or higher.

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Written By: 2001 on 03/16/16 at 12:09 am


For those of you who don't know what IMDB is it's "an online database of information related to films, television programs and video games, including cast, production crew, fictional characters, biographies, plot summaries, trivia and reviews." It's basically a website where tv shows and movies are rated based by the general public and critics. Scores of 1.0-5.9 are downright horrible, bad, or below average. Scores of 6.0-10.0 are ok, good, great, or perfect. Well these scores are based on many grading scales that other sites and IMDB users use. A 6 is "average". A 7 is good. An 8 is great. 9 is excellent. A 10 is perfect yet impossible to get as nothing is perfect.

Reception of Animation in the 1930s - 2010s. I show each decade. Under each decade I show how many cartoons are in a certain rating range.

1930s
507 Cartoons (1.0-5.9)
726 Cartoons (6.0-10.0)
238 Cartoons (7.0-10.0)
6 Cartoons (8.0-10.0)
0 Cartoons (9.0-10.0)

1940s
344 Cartoons (1.0-5.9)
920 Cartoons (6.0-10.0)
436 Cartoons (7.0-10.0)
15 Cartoons (8.0-10.0)
0 Cartoons (9.0-10.)

1950s
219 Cartoons (1.0-5.9)
814 Cartoons (6.0-10.0)
400 Cartoons (7.0-10.0)
18 Cartoons (8.0-10.0)
0 Cartoons (9.0-10.0)

1960s
340 Cartoons (1.0-5.9)
469 Cartoons (6.0-10.0)
180 Cartoons (7.0-10.0)
24 Cartoons (8.0-10.0)
0 Cartoons (9.0-10)

1970s
7 Cartoons (1.0-5.9)
144 Cartoons (6.0-10.0)
99 Cartoons (7.0-10.0)
26 Cartoons (8.0-10.0)
0 Cartoons (9.0-10.0)

1980s                                                                                     
12 Cartoons (1.0-5.9)                                   
229 Cartoons (6.0-10.0)                               
159 Cartoons (7.0-10.0)                               
38 Cartoons (8.0-10.0)                                 
0 Cartoons (9.0-10.0)                                       

1990s
51 Cartoons (1.0-5.9)
443 Cartoons (6.0-10.0)
314 Cartoons (7.0-10.0)
99 Cartoons (8.0-10.0)
1 Cartoon (9.0-10.0)

2000s
147 Cartoons (1.0-5.9)
609 Cartoons (6.0-10.0)
388 Cartoons (7.0-10.0)
96 Cartoons (8.0-10.0)
1 Cartoon (9.0-10.0)

2010s (as of 2015 so it's not quite fair to judge it entirely. By late 2019 these numbers will change)
98 Cartoons (1.0-5.9)
356 Cartoons (6.0-10.0)
256 Cartoons (7.0-10.0)
95 Cartoons (8.0-10.0)
2 Cartoons (9.0-10.0)


1990s had the least amount of bad cartoons. 2000s had the most amount of good cartoons. 2010s will have the most amount of excellent cartoons (as of 2015 there are 95 cartoons with an 8 or higher, but by 2019 I can see that 95 being 100+ which has never happened in any other decade). Also I'm surprised that the 2010s has 2 cartoons (Rick and Morty and Over the Garden Wall) with a 9.0 or higher as it's VERY rare to see a decade that has even 1 cartoon with 9.0 or higher.



2010s is objectively the best decade in everything 8) All h8ers have is opinions. Wrong opinions :P

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Written By: Toon on 03/16/16 at 12:15 am


2010s is objectively the best decade in everything 8) All h8ers have is opinions. Wrong opinions :P


When 2019 comes around I'd be very curious on how everyone would look back on the decade. People who were kids in the 2010s and teen/adults in the 2020s would say things like "we had great cartoons such as Adventure Time, Gravity Falls, Wander over Yonder, Young Justice, Regular Show, Ben 10 Ultimate Alien, Over the Garden Wall, Rick and Morty, Legend of Korra, My Little Pony, Amazing World of Gumball, We Bare Bears, Clarence, TMNT 2012, Mickey Mouse 2013, Star vs Forces of Evil, Steven Universe, Scooby Doo Monsters Inc etc" (all of which have tons of fans and IMDB scores of 7s, 8s, and 9s.). Hope the 2020s keeps up the good work.

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Written By: mqg96 on 03/16/16 at 12:39 am


Based on IMDB scores I think the 1990s has the least amount of mediocre shows, but it doesn't have the most amount of good shows (which is ultimately the most important since the good shows are the ones you're going to watch anyways) as the 2000s has more than it and the 2010s may also beat the 1990s by the time we reach 2019.


When it comes 90's cartoons, I do think people are overrating certain ones that they think are good but were really not. For example, there were many Disney Afternoon shows that were mediocre even though I ate all of 'em up on Toon Disney as a kid, not saying all of those were bad, but a lot were just spin-off's of Disney Renaissance movies or Golden/Silver/Bronze age movies, or the plots were really bland or not as good looking back. Toon Disney from 1998-2004 was a good channel, but Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon had better cartoons at the time without a question. Not saying all of the Disney Afternoon cartoons were like this, but a lot of 'em were. I've also heard that shows like Bobby's World, Extreme Dinosaurs, Mike, Lu & Og, Captain Planet, Sonic Underground, Wacky World of Tex Avery, The Adventures of T-Rex, Cow & Chicken (due to being a rip-off to Ren & Stimpy), and Fat Dog Mendoza were ALL considered as bad. Heck, even some people didn't find Ren & Stimpy special either due to its gross humor which has always been a thing with Nickelodeon for years. When it comes to anime series of the 90's, Sailor Moon seems like the most overrated one to me, don't find anything special about it either.

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Written By: mqg96 on 03/16/16 at 12:42 am


2010s is objectively the best decade in everything 8) All h8ers have is opinions. Wrong opinions :P


Music, movies, some fashion, mainstream TV shows, and comedy cartoons, I'd somewhat agree. Political and lifestyle culture, not so much.

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Written By: Toon on 03/16/16 at 1:04 am


When it comes 90's cartoons, I do think people are overrating certain ones that they think are good but were really not. For example, there were many Disney Afternoon shows that were mediocre even though I ate all of 'em up on Toon Disney as a kid, not saying all of those were bad, but a lot were just spin-off's of Disney Renaissance movies or Golden/Silver/Bronze age movies, or the plots were really bland or not as good looking back. Toon Disney from 1998-2004 was a good channel, but Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon had better cartoons at the time without a question. Not saying all of the Disney Afternoon cartoons were like this, but a lot of 'em were. I've also heard that shows like Bobby's World, Extreme Dinosaurs, Mike, Lu & Og, Captain Planet, Sonic Underground, Wacky World of Tex Avery, The Adventures of T-Rex, Cow & Chicken (due to being a rip-off to Ren & Stimpy), and Fat Dog Mendoza were ALL considered as bad. Heck, even some people didn't find Ren & Stimpy special either due to its gross humor which has always been a thing with Nickelodeon for years. When it comes to anime series of the 90's, Sailor Moon seems like the most overrated one to me, don't find anything special about it either.


I wrote what could be seen as a long rant. So I hide it as a spoiler. Read if you dare.
Now someone will probably wanna shoot me for saying all this......I hate Sailor Moon. The writing, animation, and everything inbetween isn't very good to me. Extreme Dinosaurs was just trying to cash-in on the Ninja Turtles fame. Wacky World of Tex Avery is a terrible way to show appreciation to Tex Avery (the man who created tons of legendary cartoon characters like Bug Bunny and Droopy Dog back in the 1940s-1950s) as the show was not very good. Cow & Chicken is okay, but it's not an amazing show to me as one could see it as a Ren & Stimpy ripoff. As for Ren & Stimpy I never liked its gross humor. Sonic Underground was awful (which most people agree with). Same with Adventures of T-Rex  and the rest of the other shows you mentioned. Disney Afternoon is fine to me, but I only like half the shows. I like Ducktales, Chip n Dale Rescue Rangers, Darkwing Duck, and Gargoyles. Mighty Ducks as a whole is stupid. I didn't care for Goof Troop due to not having that adventure/magical vibe as it's basically cartoons characters in modern day (at the time) life dealing with your average kid stuff. Gummi Bears bored me. I only enjoyed half of Bonkers. Quack Pack is a mix of Ducktales and Goof Troop as it has the Ducktales characters, but the whole "contemporary cool kid" vibe that Goof Troop had. The Aladdin cartoon was hit and miss for me as well. 

Now this is all based on my own subjective views. I can even point out the problems of 2000s cartoons and even the cartoons from the 1940s which is my favorite decade for cartoons. But I know that everything I say is an opinion and I can respect if people disagree. I just hate when people try act as if their opinions are fact. That the cartoons that they grew up with (can be of any decade) are automatically better (as of the 2010s it's mainly 1990s kids going on about how the 1990s was the best over all other decades that came before and after it). According to IMDB the 1990s had the least amount of bad cartoons, but doesn't have the highest amount of good cartoons as the 2000s has more. So when people say that "most of the cartoons in the 2000s sucked" I'd immediately get thrown in confusion. It's their opinion yes, but then again IMDB is a place where tons of different opinions gets formed into one overall score. A score of a 8/10 is based on thousands of different opinions that average out. For example some may say that Animaniacs is far better than any modern day cartoon. Animaniacs has a 7.9/10 on IMDB. While tons of cartoons like Adventure Time, Gravity Falls, Over the garden wall, Young Justice, Steven Universe, and many others that I named before have scores that match Animaniacs or have scores that are higher.

It's fine if someone prefers certain cartoons over modern day cartoons. But I'd rather people preferred it over reasons other than nostalgia (which isn't a fair reason as you're basically saying that you like it just because you happened to watch it was a kid. And we all know how easy it is to please children). And it would be cool if some could respect different opinions. If someone says that shows like Adventure Time, Regular show, and Young Justice are terrible then it won't bother me as long as people can respect that I may not agree with them. Don't like the shows I like? Hey it's all cool by me. But when you start saying things like "I feel sorry for kids today who won't experience these classic cartoon" or "Your childhood is awful due to not watching these cartoons as a kid" it makes you look stupid.

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/16 at 5:51 am


I think the 2010s have been great for cartoons. I wonder who would dispute that.


To be fair, I do like some 2010s cartoons. It's just that I find myself to be mature, and find live-action shows to be more entertaining to me in this decade.

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/16 at 5:54 am


Some would say that the 2010s is terrible. But from what I've seen (not from this site. Mostly on other websites) most people will talk about how cartoons of modern day ("If it's modern then it sucks") isn't as good as the retro cartoons of their childhoods. My childhood ended before we reached 2010 or even saw any bits of 2010s culture coming in. But I like cartoons of the 2010s and am happy that kids today have such greats shows.


I've seen a lot of cartoon fanatics on the Internet, and they say that the 2010s are one of the greatest decades for cartoons.

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Written By: Toon on 03/16/16 at 1:23 pm


I've seen a lot of cartoon fanatics on the Internet, and they say that the 2010s are one of the greatest decades for cartoons.


I normally don't see that. It's usually the "last era of good cartoons were the 90s" that I see all the time.

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Written By: Howard on 03/16/16 at 2:44 pm


I think the 2010s have been great for cartoons. I wonder who would dispute that.


As for me it was the 1980's.

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Written By: Zelek2 on 03/16/16 at 2:51 pm


I normally don't see that. It's usually the "last era of good cartoons were the 90s" that I see all the time.

I see early 2000s. And I've mentioned this before, but they usually lump 2004-2005 shows (like Avatar or Megas xlr) into that "early 2000s" equation, probably because it's nice and round.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/16/16 at 3:03 pm


I see early 2000s. And I've mentioned this before, but they usually lump 2004-2005 shows (like Avatar or Megas xlr) into that "early 2000s" equation, probably because it's nice and round.


2004 and 2005 are to the early 00s what Kenny G is to Jazz.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Toon on 03/16/16 at 3:45 pm


I see early 2000s. And I've mentioned this before, but they usually lump 2004-2005 shows (like Avatar or Megas xlr) into that "early 2000s" equation, probably because it's nice and round.


It'd be more accurate to say "early-mid 2000s" as 2004-2005 aren't early 2000s culturally or numerically.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/16 at 3:54 pm


I see early 2000s. And I've mentioned this before, but they usually lump 2004-2005 shows (like Avatar or Megas xlr) into that "early 2000s" equation, probably because it's nice and round.


I don't think anybody would think 2004 and 2005 are part of the early 2000s. Not even me.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 03/16/16 at 4:47 pm


I see early 2000s. And I've mentioned this before, but they usually lump 2004-2005 shows (like Avatar or Megas xlr) into that "early 2000s" equation, probably because it's nice and round.


I disagree. The cartoon schedule in 2005 was completely different to that of 2002. I don't think anyone considers Avatar, which aired 2005-2008 to be an early 2000s show.  ???

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/16 at 6:21 pm


I disagree. The cartoon schedule in 2005 was completely different to that of 2002. I don't think anyone considers Avatar, which aired 2005-2008 to be an early 2000s show.  ???


I think he's talking about the people who believe that 2004-2005 are part of the early 2000s. They mostly hang out on YouTube.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 03/16/16 at 6:44 pm


I think he's talking about the people who believe that 2004-2005 are part of the early 2000s. They mostly hang out on YouTube.


Yeah, they don't make any sense. How can you say "all cartoons after the early 2000s suck" and then list Avatar, a late 2000s cartoon, as an example of a great cartoon?  ;D ;D You should have called them out, Zelek :P

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/16 at 7:20 pm


Yeah, they don't make any sense. How can you say "all cartoons after the early 2000s suck" and then list Avatar, a late 2000s cartoon, as an example of a great cartoon?  ;D ;D You should have called them out, Zelek :P


Yeah, he doesn't really elaborate a lot on these people who are unorthodox on 2000s culture.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 03/16/16 at 7:26 pm


I disagree. The cartoon schedule in 2005 was completely different to that of 2002. I don't think anyone considers Avatar, which aired 2005-2008 to be an early 2000s show.  ???


Oh yeah, the cartoon schedule started changing drastically throughout 2004 here in the U.S.

2005 was a completely different ballgame compared to 2002. Even the 2003 schedules for cartoons are more related to the 2001 schedules than 2005. 2006 was just a watered down version of 2005 that's all.

No matter what people say about Cartoon Network whether it started declining or going downhill in a particular year or not, 2004 will always be the most transitional year for the company in the network's history. Even many of the CN headquarters in Atlanta and my uncle who used to work for the company agree that 2004 was the most drastic changing year for cartoons in general.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 03/16/16 at 7:27 pm


Yeah, they don't make any sense. How can you say "all cartoons after the early 2000s suck" and then list Avatar, a late 2000s cartoon, as an example of a great cartoon?  ;D ;D You should have called them out, Zelek :P


Avatar: the Last Airbender is more of a mid 2000's cultural cartoon IMO. Its run was a hybrid between the mid & late 2000's, but it was one of the greatest nicktoons of all time without a doubt, it's not exactly like the comics but it was still good, and had it came out in the early 2000's or late 90's, people would be treating it like gold for sure, like any other comic book show.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/16/16 at 7:47 pm


Avatar: the Last Airbender is more of a mid 2000's cultural cartoon IMO. Its run was a hybrid between the mid & late 2000's, but it was one of the greatest nicktoons of all time without a doubt, it's not exactly like the comics but it was still good, and had it came out in the early 2000's or late 90's, people would be treating it like gold for sure, like any other comic book show.

Avatar is a mid-late 00s cartoon end of story! ::) ;)

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/16/16 at 7:54 pm


Music, movies, some fashion, mainstream TV shows, and comedy cartoons, I'd somewhat agree. Political and lifestyle culture, not so much.

Exactly! I think the real life world is full of sheesh right now! Even the movies are hit or miss, and don't get me started on the music....

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/16/16 at 7:56 pm


2010s is objectively the best decade in everything 8) All h8ers have is opinions. Wrong opinions :P

Well, that's your opinion, not everybody ( and DEFINITELY ME) feels that way!

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/16 at 8:02 pm


Well, that's your opinion, not everybody ( and DEFINITELY ME) feels that way!


Including me, since I don't really like most of this decade's pop culture.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 03/16/16 at 8:03 pm


Exactly! I think the real life world is full of sheesh right now! Even the movies are hit or miss, and don't get me started on the music....


I think it comes the early 2000's or late 2000's, it can compete with 2010's music, but 2010's music beats core 2000's music by a landslide though, unless you're referring to the hip hop and R&B genre. Since late 2011 or 2012 it's shifted over to the trap rap era we're still in today. Not saying all trap rap is bad, some of the songs are catchy but I miss it when it was still in the clean hip hop and R&B era.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/16/16 at 8:18 pm


Cartoon Network
1. Ed, Edd n Eddy
2. Justice League and Justice League Unlimited
3. Dexter's Laboratory
4. Teen Titans
5. The Powerpuff Girls
6. Codename: KND
7. Courage the Cowardly Dog
8. Ben 10
9. Duck Dodgers
10. Johnny Bravo

Nickelodeon
1. Hey Arnold
2. Avatar: The Last Airbender
3. Drake & Josh
4. Spongebob Squarepants
5. Rugrats and All Grown Up
6. Jimmy Neutron
7. Danny Phantom
8. Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide
9. CatDog
10. Rocket Power

Disney Channel
1. That's So Raven
2. American Dragon Jake Long
3. Kim Possible
4. The Proud Family
5. Even Stevens
6. Phil of the Future
7. Phineas & Ferb
8. Suite Life of Zack & Cody
9. Dave the Barbarian
10. Brandy & Mr. Whiskers

Toon Disney (there's only 5 real ones I can rank that I really enjoyed, because looking back a lot of those DA and OSM shows were so cheap since a lot felt like the same thing based of classic Disney movies)
1. Disney's House of Mouse
2. Recess
3. Timon & Pumbaa
4. Gargoyles
5. Aladdin

Jetix
1. Power Rangers Dino Thunder
2. Spider-Man (1994)
3. X-Men (1992)
4. Beyblade
5. W.I.T.C.H.

Kids WB
1. Pokemon
2. Static Shock
3. Jackie Chan Adventures
4. What's New Scooby-Doo
5. Xiaolin Showdown



Here are mine!
CN
1.Ed Edd n Eddy
2. Dexter's Laboratory
3. Justice League
4. Johnny Bravo
5. Teen Titans
6. The Powerpuff Girls
7. Codename: KND
8. Courage the Cowardly Dog
9. Code Lyoko
10. Time Squad

Nickelodeon
1. Rugrats
2. Avatar: The Last Airbender
3. Spongebob
4. Hey Arnold
5. Fairly Odd Parents
6. Jimmy Neutron
6. Angry Beavers
7. Danny Phantom
8. Keenan and Kel & Drake and Josh tied! ::)
9. Invader Zim
10. Wild Thornberries
Disney Channel
1. That's So Raven
2. Kim Possible
3. The Proud Family
4. Even Stevens
6. Lizzie McGuire
7.Jake Long
8. Suite Life of Zack & Cody
9. Dave the Barbarian
10. Jett Jackson
Toon Disney
1. Disney's House of Mouse
2. Gargoyles
3. Ducktales
4. Tale Spin
5. Darkwing Duck
6. Goof Trop
7. Chip and Dale
8. Aladdin the Animated Series
9. Timon and Pumba
10. Hercules TAS
Jetix
1. MMPR
2. Spider-Man
3. X-Men
4. Beyblade
5. W.I.T.C.H.
6. Spider-man and his amazing friends
7.Super Robot Monkey team
8. Hulk TAS
9. Fantastic Four animated series
10. Iron man animated series
Kids WB
1. Pokemon
2. Yu gi oh
3. Jackie Chan Adventures
4. Batman Beyond
5. Static Shock
6. Men in Black TAS
7. X-Men Evolution
8. Xaiolin Showdown
9. Mucha Lucha
10. Cubix

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/16/16 at 8:30 pm

Aww yeah and my other lists



Fox kids
1. Power Rangers Time Force
2. Digimon
3. Transformers Robots in Disguise
4. Beyblade
5. Con Molle Knights


One Saturday Morning
1. Recess
2. Buzz Light year in Star command
3. Lloyd in Space
4. Teachers Pet
5. Pepper Ann
6. Schoolhouse Rock
7. The Weekenders
8.Disney Doug
9. New Adventurers of Winnie the Poo
10.Mickey Mouse Works


ABC kids
1. Power Rangers Dino Thunder
2. Power Rangers SPD
3. Philmore
4. Teamo Supremo
5. NBA Insider!!!!!!

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 03/16/16 at 9:01 pm


Well, that's your opinion, not everybody ( and DEFINITELY ME) feels that way!


I was joking.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/16/16 at 9:06 pm


I was joking.

Oops, it's cool! ;D ;)  Didn't mean to sound like I was going off on you. ::) ;D

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 03/16/16 at 9:11 pm


Oops, it's cool! ;D ;)  Didn't mean to sound like I was going off on you. ::) ;D


Haha, it's good. I was actually going to double down on the joke but decided to give out. ;D

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/16/16 at 9:26 pm


2010s is objectively the best decade in everything 8) All h8ers have is opinions. Wrong opinions :P


Global Warming era for life.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Zelek2 on 03/26/16 at 2:03 pm

I'd like to throw out an unpopular opinion: it may be a good thing Nick cancelled Invader Zim. :P

Don't get me wrong, it was a great show, but it seems like it was heading on the downhill path early. The first 13 or so episodes were masterpieces, but after that, the plots seemed to get too gabby and fast, characters began screaming more which got annoying, jokes got repetitive, timing worsened, and the show lost its dark edge that you saw in episodes like "Dark Harvest", becoming just another kids' show.

Just watch episodes like Mortos der Soulstealer, Girl who cried gnome, or Gaz taster of pork to see what I mean. :P If the show continued on, it might've tarnished it legacy, rather than die out as a legend.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/26/16 at 2:16 pm


I'd like to throw out an unpopular opinion: it may be a good thing Nick cancelled Invader Zim. :P

Don't get me wrong, it was a great show, but it seems like it was heading on the downhill path early. The first 13 or so episodes were masterpieces, but after that, the plots seemed to get too gabby and fast, characters began screaming more which got annoying, jokes got repetitive, timing worsened, and the show lost its dark edge that you saw in episodes like "Dark Harvest", becoming just another kids' show.

Just watch episodes like Mortos der Soulstealer, Girl who cried gnome, or Gaz taster of pork to see what I mean. :P If the show continued on, it might've tarnished it legacy, rather than die out as a legend.


That show just doesn't have any place being on after 2003.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/26/16 at 2:19 pm


I'd like to throw out an unpopular opinion: it may be a good thing Nick cancelled Invader Zim. :P

Don't get me wrong, it was a great show, but it seems like it was heading on the downhill path early. The first 13 or so episodes were masterpieces, but after that, the plots seemed to get too gabby and fast, characters began screaming more which got annoying, jokes got repetitive, timing worsened, and the show lost its dark edge that you saw in episodes like "Dark Harvest", becoming just another kids' show.

Just watch episodes like Mortos der Soulstealer, Girl who cried gnome, or Gaz taster of pork to see what I mean. :P If the show continued on, it might've tarnished it legacy, rather than die out as a legend.


The show overall was rather goofy. Much like most Nickelodeon shows. But at least it got cancelled, so that it wouldn't be suffering through seasonal rot.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: musicguy93 on 03/26/16 at 2:50 pm


When 2019 comes around I'd be very curious on how everyone would look back on the decade. People who were kids in the 2010s and teen/adults in the 2020s would say things like "we had great cartoons such as Adventure Time, Gravity Falls, Wander over Yonder, Young Justice, Regular Show, Ben 10 Ultimate Alien, Over the Garden Wall, Rick and Morty, Legend of Korra, My Little Pony, Amazing World of Gumball, We Bare Bears, Clarence, TMNT 2012, Mickey Mouse 2013, Star vs Forces of Evil, Steven Universe, Scooby Doo Monsters Inc etc" (all of which have tons of fans and IMDB scores of 7s, 8s, and 9s.). Hope the 2020s keeps up the good work.


I'm not really a fan of the artstyle or animation of most cartoons in the 2010s (it all seems very similar, with a few exceptions). Not to mention, I find that a lot of cartoons in this decade give an overall "cutesy/quirky" vibe. Of course there are some exceptions. I loved Young Justice when it was on, the older episodes of Adventure Time were pretty good, I enjoy Regular Show (though I've heard it's gone downhill). Gave Gumball a chance, liked it at first, but I felt the novelty wore out. I watched the first season of Legend of Korra, thought it was okay, but don't really have any desire to see the rest of the show.

I cannot for the life of me understand the popularity of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic (I know, shoot me!). I gave the show a chance, and once again I feel it falls into the whole "cutesy quirky" category. I tried to like it, but I just couldn't get into it. Mickey Mouse 2013 is pretty funny, though the animation is just lazy. As for Gravity Falls, couldn't get into it. I'm all for change, but the fact is that this decade's cartoons really isn't for me. It's not nostalgia at all, I really did give a lot of these shows a chance.

I just hope that there is more variety in the 2020s (in artstyle, premise, tone, etc.), so that there will be stuff that I can get into as well. Also I hope that the animation improves in the 2020s. Not a huge fan of the animation methods of this decade.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/26/16 at 3:10 pm


I'm not really a fan of the artstyle or animation of most cartoons in the 2010s (it all seems very similar, with a few exceptions). Not to mention, I find that a lot of cartoons in this decade give an overall "cutesy/quirky" vibe. Of course there are some exceptions. I loved Young Justice when it was on, the older episodes of Adventure Time were pretty good, I enjoy Regular Show (though I've heard it's gone downhill). Gave Gumball a chance, liked it at first, but I felt the novelty wore out. I watched the first season of Legend of Korra, thought it was okay, but don't really have any desire to see the rest of the show.

I cannot for the life of me understand the popularity of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic (I know, shoot me!). I gave the show a chance, and once again I feel it falls into the whole "cutesy quirky" category. I tried to like it, but I just couldn't get into it. Mickey Mouse 2013 is pretty funny, though the animation is just lazy. As for Gravity Falls, couldn't get into it. I'm all for change, but the fact is that this decade's cartoons really isn't for me. It's not nostalgia at all, I really did give a lot of these shows a chance.

I just hope that there is more variety in the 2020s (in artstyle, premise, tone, etc.), so that there will be stuff that I can get into as well. Also I hope that the animation improves in the 2020s. Not a huge fan of the animation methods of this decade.


I don't really feel like it's cute. They're just taken seriously, compared to other decades. I don't know why most cartoon fanatics enjoy having a complex story in children's animation, when it's simply made for kids. Especially My Little Pony, where it's basically loved by grown men for some reason. The whole f*cking show is about ponies doing girly stuff for their god, who lives in a castle. How is that somewhat interesting? Sure, I was a brony back in 2010/2011, but that was because it reminded me of G3 My Little Pony. Not because it had a cool story or something like that.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 03/26/16 at 3:19 pm


I cannot for the life of me understand the popularity of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic (I know, shoot me!). I gave the show a chance, and once again I feel it falls into the whole "cutesy quirky" category. I tried to like it, but I just couldn't get into it.


No it's absolutely find that you can't stand that show. I feel the same way. I find nothing special about the show and to be honest it's terrible to me. A show which target audience is mainly for little girls yet it has an obsession by a large group of internet users. The original MLP franchise started in the 80's, but it didn't have to be revived on this level of insanity.

When it comes to 2010's cartoons. I think it's great for the kids of today, however, I just ignore the negative ones out there since I've grown up. I never really cared for Adventure Time but I remember seeing some episodes on occasions and thought it was ok. I love Regular Show, and I still do. Regular Show is probably the only CN original show I'll watch on a rare occasion. I miss Young Justice. I just finished rewatching the whole series on Netflix and I still loved every bit of it. Young Justice was the best DC cartoon since Justice League Unlimited ended, and I hope it comes back for a 3rd season. The producers and voice actors just said recently to support the show on Netflix, so idk what's gonna happen this point. The Mickey Mouse (2013) show is the best Mickey Mouse series since House of Mouse. I watched bits and pieces of the Legend of Korra series, it was watchable for me. Seasons 1 & 3 were the good ones, while 2 & 4 were the lackluster ones IMO.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: musicguy93 on 03/26/16 at 3:20 pm


I don't really feel like it's cute. They're just taken seriously, compared to other decades. I don't know why most cartoon fanatics enjoy having a complex story in animation, when it's simply made for kids. Especially My Little Pony, where it's basically loved by grown men for some reason. The whole f*cking show is about ponies doing girly stuff for their god, who lives in a castle. How is that somewhat interesting? Sure, I was a brony back in 2010/2011, but that was because it reminded me of G3 My Little Pony. Not because it had a cool story or something like that.


I know what you mean. I mean Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry didn't have complex stories. Yet I find them far more enjoyable than cartoons nowadays.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/26/16 at 3:30 pm


I know what you mean. I mean Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry didn't have complex stories. Yet I find them far more enjoyable than cartoons nowadays.


I agree. They're more memorable than today's cartoons, especially when you have them rebooted several times.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 03/26/16 at 3:32 pm

Phineas and Ferb is GOAT. Probably better than any show from my childhood except SpongeBob :P

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: cool123 on 03/26/16 at 3:34 pm


Phineas and Ferb is GOAT. Probably better than any show from my childhood except SpongeBob :P


I'm sorry Slowpoke but Phineas and Ferb is a late 2000s kid show. It wasn't a late 2000s teen show.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: 2001 on 03/26/16 at 3:36 pm


I'm sorry Slowpoke but Phineas and Ferb is a late 2000s kid show. It wasn't a late 2000s teen show.


I have two sisters born 2005 so I watched some of the stuff they were watching :P

The late 2000s teen show is Heroes.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Howard on 03/26/16 at 3:36 pm


I know what you mean. I mean Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry didn't have complex stories. Yet I find them far more enjoyable than cartoons nowadays.


Back in the days you sat down in front of the television and watched the cartoons while laughing hysterically eating your favorite bowl of cereal.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/26/16 at 3:38 pm


I'm sorry Slowpoke but Phineas and Ferb is a late 2000s kid show. It wasn't a late 2000s teen show.


It was more popular during the late 2000s, but that doesn't mean it was only made for kids. There are teens and adults who enjoyed Phineas and Ferb before it ended.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: cool123 on 03/26/16 at 3:41 pm


It was more popular during the late 2000s, but that doesn't mean it was only made for kids. There are teens and adults who enjoyed Phineas and Ferb before it ended.


I'm not saying teens/adults couldn't have enjoyed Phineas and Ferb. I'm just saying it was a show for kids.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/26/16 at 3:45 pm


I'm not saying teens/adults couldn't have enjoyed Phineas and Ferb. I'm just saying it was a show for kids.


Well yeah, but you just said to Slowpoke that it was a 2000s kid show, not a 2000s teen show. Meaning that since he was 14 when P&F premiered, he wasn't in the target audience for the show.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: cool123 on 03/26/16 at 3:47 pm


Well yeah, but you just said to Slowpoke that it was a 2000s kid show, not a 2000s teen show. Meaning that since he was 14 when P&F premiered, he wasn't in the target audience for the show.


Well yeah Slowpoke wasn't apart of the target audience.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/26/16 at 3:48 pm


Well yeah Slowpoke wasn't apart of the target audience.


But that doesn't mean he couldn't enjoy it.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: cool123 on 03/26/16 at 3:50 pm


But that doesn't mean he couldn't enjoy it.


I'm not saying Slowpoke couldn't have enjoyed watching Phineas and Ferb, all I was saying was that it was a kid show. F*ck what don't understand.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/26/16 at 3:53 pm


I'm not saying Slowpoke couldn't have enjoyed watching Phineas and Ferb, all I was saying was that it was a kid show. F*ck what don't understand.


Okay, I get it. It was simply a kids show. My point is that Slowpoke was saying Phineas and Ferb was better than most of his childhood shows.

Subject: Re: Today's cartoons and kid shows have no charisma

Written By: mqg96 on 03/26/16 at 4:12 pm


Well yeah Slowpoke wasn't apart of the target audience.



I'm not saying Slowpoke couldn't have enjoyed watching Phineas and Ferb, all I was saying was that it was a kid show. F*ck what don't understand.


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