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Subject: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: iquestion on 09/28/08 at 5:16 am

Have you heard of this terribly effected guy?

He REFUSES to do a movie scene(?) wherehe must kiss another woman other than his wife...

My word for him INSECURITY!

He acknowledges it is 'acting' but something also to do with his kids seeing him kissing another woman other thanhis wife.

Is he looking to 'redefine' the entire concept of 'ACTING' because this screams of total insecurity...has ANY other actor in the HISTORY of acting that can be named of doing this?
That's the first indication.

I say lethim do whathis calling was..not bothering us with such ridiculous nuttiness and insulting his children and viewers who got the memo what 'acting is about' and Kirk is living in another world in his head!


Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: danootaandme on 09/28/08 at 6:06 am

Wife?  I thought he was gay. Well, actually I still think he is, in a Clay Aiken sort of way   ;)

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: limblifter on 09/28/08 at 8:15 am


Have you heard of this terribly effected guy?

He REFUSES to do a movie scene(?) wherehe must kiss another woman other than his wife...

My word for him INSECURITY!

He acknowledges it is 'acting' but something also to do with his kids seeing him kissing another woman other thanhis wife.

Is he looking to 'redefine' the entire concept of 'ACTING' because this screams of total insecurity...has ANY other actor in the HISTORY of acting that can be named of doing this?
That's the first indication.

I say lethim do whathis calling was..not bothering us with such ridiculous nuttiness and insulting his children and viewers who got the memo what 'acting is about' and Kirk is living in another world in his head!




Not bothering you with his nuttiness? Why in the world would the decisions and actions of Kirk Cameron bother you so much?

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: LyricBoy on 09/28/08 at 8:45 am


Wife?  I thought he was gay. Well, actually I still think he is, in a Clay Aiken sort of way   ;)


He can't be gay... He's evangelical.

Speaking of Kirk Cameroon.  I wonder when he's gonna do the next "Left Behind" flick? ???  Would make a great porno flick.  "Left Behind 4:  Confessions of a Right-Hand Man"...  ;D

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: snozberries on 09/28/08 at 11:54 am



Not bothering you with his nuttiness? Why in the world would the decisions and actions of Kirk Cameron bother you so much?


Exactly ::)



He can't be gay... He's evangelical.




;D and karma

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: gibbo on 09/28/08 at 4:43 pm

I say good on him if he can actually stipulate no kissing etc ...and still get work!  It might only be acting but the kissing they do is not the polite closed mouth kiss of the old hollywood movies. They really get into the nooks and crannies with the kissing now and it must be difficult kissing all those attractive women and feeling nothing..

I remeber Pat Boone and Cliff Richard had similar stipulations for any acting they did.

You are always hearing of actors dumping their present wife/girlfriend and hooking up with their current co-star. Once again, I say...good on him!

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: Dagwood on 09/28/08 at 5:27 pm


Not bothering you with his nuttiness? Why in the world would the decisions and actions of Kirk Cameron bother you so much?


Exactly.

If it goes against his beliefs to kiss another woman, even if it is just acting, then he has every right not to kiss another woman.  If it bothers you so much, don't watch his movies.  It doesn't make him insecure, it makes him someone who stands by his beliefs.  Nothing wrong with that.

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: iquestion on 09/28/08 at 7:10 pm


Not bothering you with his nuttiness? Why in the world would the decisions and actions of Kirk Cameron bother you so much?


Aren't discussing the news of the day?

It 'bothers' me because it's a story that made news and the reaction I had from it first off is- 'He is challenging his profession in such an unconventional way-he sounds insecure-(if the reason given is just because he is dedicated to one woman and doesn't want his kids thinking he is kissing another woman.)

If he has a scare of transmitted diseases -good to know and is more understandable..Look at Howie Mandel and the KNUCKLETAP..But he admits- It's a phobia....
When in a college acting workshop, there were scenes where actors are to grab the woman actresses and draw them to them or just hug them and one out of loads of others???
did the thing where they stuck their butts away from touching anywhere near the girls' waist!
The coach yelled out-WHAT? SHE'S NOT GONNA BITE YA!..The scene calls for grabbing her to you!

What if I didn't want to talk like a pirate at the fish food restaurant I work at when I take orders ...it's part of the 'game'..I don't have to do that AFTER work..KIRK can kiss  or not kiss anyone he wants after the job is over.

I may be looking at it from the 'job' requirements if he is representing himself to be an actor..or 'the actor who doesn't kiss'...

I was unaware Pat Boone had done that too.. he has a good reputation BUT how much of an active movie career?

Again it interests me from the side of actors -if any other message boarders are actors, I would like to hear their view... 

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: danootaandme on 09/28/08 at 7:30 pm



He can't be gay... He's evangelical.




???  I thought they were the same thing(albeit in a long dark closet kind of way)  ;D

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: Reynolds1863 on 09/28/08 at 8:22 pm

Poor Kirk is using a form of self defense that has the evangelical seal of approval.  If you watch some of his evangelical stuff on you tube, he's a Dobson wannabe.  For some hardcore Christians an act done in a movie is just as bad as real life.

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: iquestion on 09/28/08 at 9:43 pm


Poor Kirk is using a form of self defense that has the evangelical seal of approval.  If you watch some of his evangelical stuff on you tube, he's a Dobson wannabe.  For some hardcore Christians an act done in a movie is just as bad as real life.


That's more of the point I was trying to make..blurring the line of fantasy and reality.
Remember when they had the PLAYBOY(?)Playmate(?)  on Growing Pains  ??..She wasn't there very long....Wonder Why??

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: MrCleveland on 09/29/08 at 2:24 pm


Poor Kirk is using a form of self defense that has the evangelical seal of approval.  If you watch some of his evangelical stuff on you tube, he's a Dobson wannabe.  For some hardcore Christians an act done in a movie is just as bad as real life.


I wish that the short-lived show "Kirk" comes on DVD.

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: Reynolds1863 on 09/29/08 at 6:04 pm


That's more of the point I was trying to make..blurring the line of fantasy and reality.
Remember when they had the PLAYBOY(?)Playmate(?)  on Growing Pains  ??..She wasn't there very long....Wonder Why??


It wasn't only the Playboy issue that Kirk had a problem with.  Julie is very open minded and into science and reason.  Guess Kirk couldn't covert her.

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: iquestion on 09/29/08 at 6:40 pm

Makes you wonder?

I learned that someone had an encounter where he(Kirk) would pass out $$ BUT it had HIS picture on it instead-(most likely a message 'IN GOD I TRUST')

Like the masses who are irked when a celebrity speaks about their political views, I see it can be viewed the same where he is hored to act..then ACT..right you can pick if you want to go nude -if it would be tasteful...but to say NO KISSING ..then why not no talking..justlet people look at me.I believe I will be called dumb if I speak.
Possibly?

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 09/29/08 at 8:20 pm

That's over a hundred words, there!

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: iquestion on 09/29/08 at 11:07 pm


That's over a hundred words, there!


Oh..I thought I already gave my 'word'.

which led into a conversation??

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: snozberries on 09/29/08 at 11:12 pm


Aren't discussing the news of the day?

It 'bothers' me because it's a story that made news and the reaction I had from it first off is- 'He is challenging his profession in such an unconventional way-he sounds insecure-(if the reason given is just because he is dedicated to one woman and doesn't want his kids thinking he is kissing another woman.)

If he has a scare of transmitted diseases -good to know and is more understandable..Look at Howie Mandel and the KNUCKLETAP..But he admits- It's a phobia....
When in a college acting workshop, there were scenes where actors are to grab the woman actresses and draw them to them or just hug them and one out of loads of others???
did the thing where they stuck their butts away from touching anywhere near the girls' waist!
The coach yelled out-WHAT? SHE'S NOT GONNA BITE YA!..The scene calls for grabbing her to you!

What if I didn't want to talk like a pirate at the fish food restaurant I work at when I take orders ...it's part of the 'game'..I don't have to do that AFTER work..KIRK can kiss  or not kiss anyone he wants after the job is over.

I may be looking at it from the 'job' requirements if he is representing himself to be an actor..or 'the actor who doesn't kiss'...

I was unaware Pat Boone had done that too.. he has a good reputation BUT how much of an active movie career?

Again it interests me from the side of actors -if any other message boarders are actors, I would like to hear their view... 


you know Bob Newhart had the same rule. I believe he wouldn't allow anything more from them than a peck on the cheek.  Also the wedding ring he wore was his own not a prop.

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: iquestion on 09/30/08 at 1:09 am


you know Bob Newhart had the same rule. I believe he wouldn't allow anything more from them than a peck on the cheek.  Also the wedding ring he wore was his own not a prop.


It must be hitting me the wrong way as it is for film compared to TV?..

It kind of sounds demanding which makes actors (or the singers who ask for only yellow M&M's in their dressing rooms)..

Some movies may concede small odd requests like having the actors actual old stuffed toy in a scene ..but the rest sounds kindof Diva-ish. 

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: Tam on 09/30/08 at 1:21 am


..but the rest sounds kindof Diva-ish.   


I don't think it is "Diva-ish" as you say, at all.
Now because of an actors' Faith, they are considered Divas??!!
::)

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: danootaandme on 09/30/08 at 5:59 am


I don't think it is "Diva-ish" as you say, at all.
Now because of an actors' Faith, they are considered Divas??!!
::)



He is definitely not a Diva, and I don't think it is about faith.  He is a D-lister looking for attention anyway he can get it, much like Dennis Miller saying anything until he strikes a chord and finds a niche where someone, anyone, will pay some attention.

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: Dagwood on 09/30/08 at 7:02 am


I don't think it is "Diva-ish" as you say, at all.
Now because of an actors' Faith, they are considered Divas??!!
::)



I'm with you.  I just don't understand why it is such a big deal.  He has his standards and is sticking to them.  I am sure he understands that it will cost him some roles.  Why should it matter to us?  Just because he is an actor doesn't mean he should be required to do something that is against his moral beliefs.

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: snozberries on 09/30/08 at 12:31 pm


It must be hitting me the wrong way as it is for film compared to TV?..

It kind of sounds demanding which makes actors (or the singers who ask for only yellow M&M's in their dressing rooms)..

Some movies may concede small odd requests like having the actors actual old stuffed toy in a scene ..but the rest sounds kindof Diva-ish.   



what about actresses who use a body double for nude scenes?

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: iquestion on 09/30/08 at 1:11 pm



what about actresses who use a body double for nude scenes?


I would then wonder why no one brought up a 'kissing' double for Kirk?

It is just what comes off as challenging the 'art' by saying something that may be as harmless as a kiss will make his children think less of his fidelity..
Didn't he raise them to know acting is 'acting'?

If I thought the world of the Osmonds(or someone with a reputation for being clean cut) and I saw them do a scene where they beat someone up..MY REALITY of them goes out the window once I enter the theater...or if someone who is a 'known' vegetarian and they do a scene where they are eating steak at a restaurant while on a date withing the movie, I don't say 'THEY ATE STEAK IN SUCH AND SUCH'...So even if he used a kissing double..why would he not want that?

There are also stunt doubles, but that's a safety issue.
And there have been body 'part' doubles ..HE is just putting too much into thinking his 'image' will be something to live up to for his whole life...Then don't do the movie if it has violence or kissing/love scenes. Many others far better looking would love to do it.

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: snozberries on 09/30/08 at 1:15 pm


I would then wonder why no one brought up a 'kissing' double for Kirk?

It is just what comes off as challenging the 'art' by saying something that may be as harmless as a kiss will make his children think less of his fidelity..
Didn't he raise them to know acting is 'acting'?

If I thought the world of the Osmonds(or someone with a reputation for being clean cut) and I saw them do a scene where they beat someone up..MY REALITY of them goes out the window once I enter the theater...or if someone who is a 'known' vegetarian and they do a scene where they are eating steak at a restaurant while on a date withing the movie, I don't say 'THEY ATE STEAK IN SUCH AND SUCH'...So even if he used a kissing double..why would he not want that?

There are also stunt doubles, but that's a safety issue.
And there have been body 'part' doubles ..HE is just putting too much into thinking his 'image' will be something to live up to for his whole life...Then don't do the movie if it has violence or kissing/love scenes. Many others far better looking would love to do it.




a vegitarian wouldn't eat meat in a scene. The film would be cut to look like they ate the meat or they the props people would make tofu look like a T-bone on screen.

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: Dagwood on 09/30/08 at 1:17 pm


I would then wonder why no one brought up a 'kissing' double for Kirk?

It is just what comes off as challenging the 'art' by saying something that may be as harmless as a kiss will make his children think less of his fidelity..
Didn't he raise them to know acting is 'acting'?

If I thought the world of the Osmonds(or someone with a reputation for being clean cut) and I saw them do a scene where they beat someone up..MY REALITY of them goes out the window once I enter the theater...or if someone who is a 'known' vegetarian and they do a scene where they are eating steak at a restaurant while on a date withing the movie, I don't say 'THEY ATE STEAK IN SUCH AND SUCH'...So even if he used a kissing double..why would he not want that?

There are also stunt doubles, but that's a safety issue.
And there have been body 'part' doubles ..HE is just putting too much into thinking his 'image' will be something to live up to for his whole life...Then don't do the movie if it has violence or kissing/love scenes. Many others far better looking would love to do it.




I just have to ask, why does it offend you so much?  So he doesn't want to kiss another woman in a movie....so what?  What effect does it have on your life?  You seem so offended by it.   Seriously, aren't there more important things in life to worry about rather than whether or not Kirk Cameron kisses a woman in a movie?

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: Tam on 09/30/08 at 1:21 pm


I would then wonder why no one brought up a 'kissing' double for Kirk?




I am surprised you brought up this point! Why?
Because had you read the whole story, you would have found that there was in fact a body double used for the kiss..... HIS REAL WIFE!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,427161,00.html

Furthermore, a little research into the premise of the movie will show you that it is a Faith based movie - Kirk is doing nothing wrong but living up to his Faith. It is people who slam him for his Faith that turn it into more than it really is. Good grief ::)

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: danootaandme on 09/30/08 at 4:08 pm

I don't think anyone is slamming him, I think it is more of a "who cares".  Does anybody really?

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: iquestion on 09/30/08 at 4:56 pm



I just have to ask, why does it offend you so much?  So he doesn't want to kiss another woman in a movie....so what?  What effect does it have on your life?  You seem so offended by it.   Seriously, aren't there more important things in life to worry about rather than whether or not Kirk Cameron kisses a woman in a movie?


I'm still not calling it offended, just surprised someone would go out of their way to say..oh, see this scene, let me kiss my wife here because it is against my 'faith' to kiss another woman.

It seems offbeat to bring 'outside' stipulations(but then you always can negotiate whatever you wantin a contract). a kissing scene may have been needed to move the story forward...so they accommodated him by letting it be his wife..HIS complaint was that , yes, it was a faith choice but then when he ALSO mentioned how his 'kids' would think it was questionable as to why he is kissing another woman when he's married to mommy.  WHY NOT..UH, 'BECAUSE MOMMY ISN'T IN THE MOVIE?'

No worries, he's doing it but the 'EFFECT' you ask of, is the same reason why I prefer a movie with MINIMUM CGI effects..and I know many others who concur...if everything is animated when the action hero flies and blows things up..it is too manufactured for me, I turn to the old action films instead like a Butch Cassidy...they might have a guy jumping off the cliff in place of Paul Newman and tangible scenes.

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: snozberries on 09/30/08 at 7:33 pm


I am surprised you brought up this point! Why?
Because had you read the whole story, you would have found that there was in fact a body double used for the kiss..... HIS REAL WIFE!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,427161,00.html

Furthermore, a little research into the premise of the movie will show you that it is a Faith based movie - Kirk is doing nothing wrong but living up to his Faith. It is people who slam him for his Faith that turn it into more than it really is. Good grief ::)



You go Girl... Karma 'cept I may owe you one... I don't think it's been 24 hours since my last to you!

Subject: Re: One word about former kid actor Kirk Cameron...

Written By: snozberries on 09/30/08 at 7:35 pm


I don't think anyone is slamming him, I think it is more of a "who cares".  Does anybody really?


no I don't think any of us really care I think we just like to make saver low iq iquestion get trapped by his/her own "logic" and "reason" for lack of better terminology.

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