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Subject: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: ninny on 01/27/09 at 9:21 am

US woman has given birth to eight babies, becoming just the second person recorded in the US to have delivered a set of living octuplets.

The six boys and two girls, who were nine weeks premature, were delivered by Caesarean section in the hospital near Los Angeles, California.

The babies weighed in at between 1lb 8 ounces (820g) and 3lb 4oz (1.47kg) and are all said to be doing well.

They were screaming and kicking around very vigorously, a doctor said.

The mother, whose identity has not been revealed, has asked that limited information be released about the births

She checked in to the hospital 23 weeks into her pregnancy and gave birth seven weeks later.

A spokeswoman at the Bellflower medical centre described the deliveries, which took place in the space of five minutes, as "truly amazing".

The medical team had scheduled a Caesarean section for seven babies, but doctors were surprised when an eighth came out.

"Lo and behold, after we got to Baby G, which is what we expected, we were surprised by Baby H," said Dr Karen Maples.

Three of the babies needed help breathing, but all were otherwise doing well, a doctor said.

The babies will be in incubators for at least six weeks and the mother is planning to breast feed them all, the hospital officials said.

"She is a very strong woman, so she probably will be able to handle all eight babies," said Dr Mandhir Gupta.

He added that the mother was "doing very, very well" and was "really excited that she got all of these babies, and that they're doing good so far".

The team did not give any more details about the mother's identity or say whether she had used fertility drugs.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 01/27/09 at 6:05 pm

This makes me sooooo tired I don't know where to start.  Well, good luck to the children, they will need it.  I wonder if she will home school?

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 01/27/09 at 6:57 pm

I'll bet mom is over 40 and fertility drugs were involved!
::)

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Foo Bar on 01/27/09 at 8:28 pm

Well whaddya know... sometimes it is a clown car!

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Dagwood on 01/27/09 at 8:30 pm

She is planning on breastfeeding.....she won't have time to do anything else.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 01/28/09 at 1:20 am


She is planning on breastfeeding.....she won't have time to do anything else.

Meh, a couple of the little buggars won't make it, infections and whatnot!
:(

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 01/28/09 at 5:38 am


She is planning on breastfeeding.....she won't have time to do anything else.


That should last about 2 minutes  ;D

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Philip Eno on 01/28/09 at 5:59 am


That should last about 2 minutes   ;D
..for each child?

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 01/28/09 at 12:07 pm


..for each child?


....before she figures out that it won't work.  If she plans on breast feeding 8 babies she should plan funerals for at least 4 of them, maybe more. 

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Philip Eno on 01/28/09 at 12:08 pm


....before she figures out that it won't work.  If she plans on breast feeding 8 babies she should plan funerals for at least 4 of them, maybe more. 
A wet nurse for each baby?

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Tia on 01/28/09 at 12:09 pm

big whoop. an octopus will just slide right out, total piece of cake. course, it is a bit of a disturbing question how it got up there in the first place.

oh, wait. sorry, i read the headline wrong.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 01/28/09 at 12:19 pm


A wet nurse for each baby?


Haven't heard of anyone standing in line for that job lately. The bottle it will probably be.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Philip Eno on 01/28/09 at 12:21 pm


Haven't heard of anyone standing in line for that job lately. The bottle it will probably be.
Are there health and safety issues in being a wet nurse?

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 01/28/09 at 12:25 pm


Are there health and safety issues in being a wet nurse?


I would think so.  Knowing what we now know about transferring bodily fluids(and that is what it is) each wet nurse would have to go through a battery of tests for diseases.  Then it is possible for the child to be allergic to the breast milk of someone other than their mother.  Formula would probably be safer.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Rice_Cube on 01/28/09 at 12:35 pm

Eight is enough!


Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 01/28/09 at 8:15 pm


Haven't heard of anyone standing in line for that job lately. The bottle it will probably be.

With the recession on, it could be just the thing.

I was thinking about it.  There's a place across town where I heard you can rent the equipment, but the police made me get back into my car and go home.
:-[

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Reynolds1863 on 01/28/09 at 8:43 pm


That should last about 2 minutes   ;D


She's decided not to.  5 of them have already started on the bottle.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: LyricBoy on 01/28/09 at 11:13 pm

Hmmmm....  I wonder what her husband's favorite James Bond film is now? ???

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 01/28/09 at 11:57 pm


Hmmmm....  I wonder what her husband's favorite James Bond film is now? ???


Wouldn't it be Octopussy?
:-\\

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Philip Eno on 01/29/09 at 7:12 am

Is it true on this latest report in the press, she already has six children?

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 01/29/09 at 7:21 am

:o    Looks like that is true.  She is 29 her husband is 41 she already has six.  Who the f*** gave this woman fertility drugs.  I would bet my house that she was coerced into it.  This is a travesty.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: LyricBoy on 01/29/09 at 7:19 pm


Wouldn't it be Octopussy?
:-\\


That's what I was thinking.  ;D

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Reynolds1863 on 01/29/09 at 8:28 pm


:o     Looks like that is true.  She is 29 her husband is 41 she already has six.  Who the f*** gave this woman fertility drugs.  I would bet my house that she was coerced into it.  This is a travesty.


That's beyond clown car.  How the hell are they going to pay for 14 kids in this day in age.  Why do some people think women are mere baby producing machines?  My tax money had better not be going their way. >:(

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 01/30/09 at 1:26 am


:o     Looks like that is true.  She is 29 her husband is 41 she already has six.  Who the f*** gave this woman fertility drugs.  I would bet my house that she was coerced into it.  This is a travesty.


Wasn't there a nursery rhyme about this broad?
???

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 01/30/09 at 4:36 am


That's beyond clown car.  How the hell are they going to pay for 14 kids in this day in age.  Why do some people think women are mere baby producing machines?  My tax money had better not be going their way. >:(


I say the doctor who gave her the fertility pills gets to pay child support  ;)

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Reynolds1863 on 01/30/09 at 5:01 am


I say the doctor who gave her the fertility pills gets to pay child support   ;)


and be reviewed by the A.M.A.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: ninny on 01/30/09 at 6:55 am


Eight is enough!




In this case WAY WAY too much
:o     Looks like that is true.  She is 29 her husband is 41 she already has six.  Who the f*** gave this woman fertility drugs.  I would bet my house that she was coerced into it.  This is a travesty.

I read that she was given the chance to reduce the number of embryos,but declined because she refused to have them killed,so the doctors had no choice.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 01/30/09 at 7:00 am


In this case WAY WAY too muchI read that she was given the chance to reduce the number of embryos,but declined because she refused to have them killed,so the doctors had no choice.


She already had 6 children and she is 29, there wasn't any reason for fertility drugs in the first place.  Considering that she didn't have any problems with the previous six,  it was inevitable that all the embryos would survive.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: quirky_cat_girl on 01/30/09 at 9:44 am

I heard that she is single and lives with her parents...and already had 6 kids. Why in the name of God..would someone who already had that many kids, and is already putting her parents out (IMO) choose to have more? Sorry..but that is so selfish. If you are going to have that many children...you should make sure that you are very financially stable...and not have to depend on others for support.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Jessica on 01/30/09 at 10:08 am


I heard that she is single and lives with her parents...and already had 6 kids. Why in the name of God..would someone who already had that many kids, and is already putting her parents out (IMO) choose to have more? Sorry..but that is so selfish. If you are going to have that many children...you should make sure that you are very financially stable...and not have to depend on others for support.


She's not single.  Her husband is a contractor in Iraq.

Latest story on CNN is that after she recovers from everything, she'll talk to the press.  So I guess we just wait to see what she has to say about it.  Quite frankly, I'm pleased that she's not out there whoring the kids to the media two seconds after they came out of the womb.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 01/30/09 at 10:40 am


That's beyond clown car.  How the hell are they going to pay for 14 kids in this day in age.  Why do some people think women are mere baby producing machines?  My tax money had better not be going their way. >:(


How?  Reality TV maybe?

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: ninny on 01/30/09 at 1:15 pm


How?  Reality TV maybe?



Yep,I'm sure that they've already approached her about that.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 01/30/09 at 4:44 pm


Yep,I'm sure that they've already approached her about that.


Oh jeez, that will only encourage more to try and outdo what she has done

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: LyricBoy on 01/30/09 at 6:07 pm


She's not single.  Her husband is a contractor in Iraq.

Latest story on CNN is that after she recovers from everything, she'll talk to the press.  So I guess we just wait to see what she has to say about it.  Quite frankly, I'm pleased that she's not out there whoring the kids to the media two seconds after they came out of the womb.


I believe that she is single and lives with her mother.  Her MOTHER has a husband who works in Iraq.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Jessica on 01/30/09 at 6:18 pm


I believe that she is single and lives with her mother.  Her MOTHER has a husband who works in Iraq.


Ah ha.  I had to go back and re-read the article on CNN.  They word stuff in a really crappy way.

Then this is just leaving me puzzled.  Why would a single woman with six children want the option of fertility treatment, knowing that the risk would include multiple births?  You think maybe she was going to sell them or something? ???

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 01/30/09 at 6:26 pm


Ah ha.  I had to go back and re-read the article on CNN.  They word stuff in a really crappy way.

Then this is just leaving me puzzled.  Why would a single woman with six children want the option of fertility treatment, knowing that the risk would include multiple births?  You think maybe she was going to sell them or something? ???


It might be a pathological collecting and hording compulsion.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Jessica on 01/30/09 at 6:28 pm


It might be a pathological collecting and hording compulsion.


Of children?  That would be awesome! ;D

Maybe she did it on a bet.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Dagwood on 01/30/09 at 8:23 pm


It might be a pathological collecting and hording compulsion.


You are cracking me up, Max.  I just got a picture of my grandma's house stuffed to the rafters with babies instead of magazines and newspapers. ;D

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 01/30/09 at 9:40 pm


You are cracking me up, Max.  I just got a picture of my grandma's house stuffed to the rafters with babies instead of magazines and newspapers. ;D


Exactly, sometimes it's old bicycle wheels and newspapers, sometimes it's children!
:o

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: statsqueen on 01/31/09 at 12:21 am

Here's a link to an article on cnn.com that is just out.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/01/30/embryos.ethics/index.html

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: ninny on 01/31/09 at 6:54 am


Here's a link to an article on cnn.com that is just out.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/01/30/embryos.ethics/index.html

I see she wanted one more girl,she ended up with 6 boys and 2 girls.not quite what she was looking for.
Interesting quote by her mother
. Dear God," Suleman told the newspaper. She said her daughter "is not evil, but she is obsessed with children. She loves children, she is very good with children, but obviously she overdid herself."..OBVIOUSLY
http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo316/lemonsucker2/thMJZ409.gif

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 01/31/09 at 7:09 am



She said her daughter "is not evil, but she is obsessed with children. She loves children, she is very good with children, but obviously she overdid herself."..OBVIOUSLY





So she is related to Angelina Jolie, except the good with children part, Angelina is good at handing them over to the nannies.

I don't know much about the cost of the implantation, but it would seem to me to be out of the range of a single mother of six, or even a married couple of six.  So who paid for this, and again, who was the doctor? 

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Jessica on 01/31/09 at 9:30 am


I see she wanted one more girl,she ended up with 6 boys and 2 girls.not quite what she was looking for.
Interesting quote by her mother
. Dear God," Suleman told the newspaper. She said her daughter "is not evil, but she is obsessed with children. She loves children, she is very good with children, but obviously she overdid herself."..OBVIOUSLY
http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo316/lemonsucker2/thMJZ409.gif




;D


So she is related to Angelina Jolie, except the good with children part, Angelina is good at handing them over to the nannies.

I don't know much about the cost of the implantation, but it would seem to me to be out of the range of a single mother of six, or even a married couple of six.  So who paid for this, and again, who was the doctor? 


That's what I want to know.  Furthermore, I wonder if there are any ethics violations they could get this doctor on.  Other fertility specialists have already said that eight embryos was five too many to be implanted in a 33 year old woman.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: ninny on 01/31/09 at 9:32 am

I read she had all her kids through vitro.

— The woman who gave birth to octuplets this week conceived all 14 of her children through in vitro fertilization, is not married and has been obsessed with having children since she was a teenager, her mother said.

Angela Suleman told The Associated Press she was not supportive when her daughter, Nadya Suleman, decided to have more embryos implanted last year.

"It can't go on any longer," she said in a phone interview Friday. "She's got six children and no husband. I was brought up the traditional way. I firmly believe in marriage. But she didn't want to get married."

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 01/31/09 at 11:23 am

knocked-up-lets

:-\\

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 01/31/09 at 12:28 pm

It should be obvious to anyone that she is not quite stable, mentally, emotionally, and financially.  People will begin to vilify her, but they are wrong.  She shouldn't bear the brunt of this.  The people who have enabled her should be slapped to the other side of the moon.  When the money to pay for all this runs out then, and only then, will doctor will stop, because that is what he sees in this, the money.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: ninny on 01/31/09 at 12:40 pm


It should be obvious to anyone that she is not quite stable, mentally, emotionally, and financially.  People will begin to vilify her, but they are wrong.  She shouldn't bear the brunt of this.  The people who have enabled her should be slapped to the other side of the moon.  When the money to pay for all this runs out then, and only then, will doctor will stop, because that is what he sees in this, the money.

The question is is where is she getting the money from,her parents had to declare bankruptcy and abandon their home over a year ago.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 01/31/09 at 3:13 pm


The question is is where is she getting the money from,her parents had to declare bankruptcy and abandon their home over a year ago.


Probably because their daughter is living off of them with six children(now 14).  They lost 2 properties to foreclosure, and live in a 3 bedroom house.  Something is just not right all the way around.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: CatwomanofV on 01/31/09 at 4:42 pm

I really think she should put some of these kids up for adoption-or the state is going to do it for her.



Cat

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Reynolds1863 on 01/31/09 at 5:07 pm


It should be obvious to anyone that she is not quite stable, mentally, emotionally, and financially.  People will begin to vilify her, but they are wrong.  She shouldn't bear the brunt of this.  The people who have enabled her should be slapped to the other side of the moon.  When the money to pay for all this runs out then, and only then, will doctor will stop, because that is what he sees in this, the money.


I think she has unrealistic expectations about having children and raising them.  The doctor should have looked at her situation and said NO.  He's irresponsible for doing this.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 02/01/09 at 5:52 am


I really think she should put some of these kids up for adoption-or the state is going to do it for her.



Cat


I think it is a bit too early to make that call.  The state taking away children who have not been abused or mistreated yet would set a dangerous precedence, even in this unusual situation.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: LyricBoy on 02/01/09 at 8:48 am

Why would ths state take over her kids?  Have there been any allegations of abuse?

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: ninny on 02/01/09 at 10:10 am

She definitely is going to need lots of help,whether it's from the state or just local support. There is a good chance that more than one of her kids will have health issues

I've read she plans on making money through intreviews(Oprah)

THE single mother of octuplets born in California last week is seeking $2m (£1.37m) from media interviews and commercial sponsorship to help pay the cost of raising the children.

Nadya Suleman, 33, plans a career as a television childcare expert after it emerged last week that she already had six children before giving birth on Monday. She now has 14 below the age of eight.

Although still confined to an LA hospital bed, she intends to talk to two influential television hosts this week — media mogul Oprah Winfrey, and Diane Sawyer, who presents Good Morning America.

Her family has told agents she needs cash from deals such as nappy sponsorship — she will get through 250 a week in the next few months — and the agents will gauge public reaction to her story.
Related Links

    * Octuplets' mother may have had multiple IVF

Her earning power, though, could be diminished by a growing ethical and medical controversy. Experts believe that the unnamed fertility specialists who gave her in vitro fertilisation (IVF) should not have implanted so many embryos, and in choosing to carry all eight to term, Suleman ignored guidelines, risking both their health and her own.

US public reaction has been mixed: many have asked how an unemployed single mother can raise 14 children, as her first six have already strained the family budget. Angela and Ed Suleman, Nadya’s parents,bought her a two-bedroom bungalow in the suburb of Whittier in March 2007, but soon after got into debt and had to leave their own home.

They filed for bankruptcy and moved in with their daughter and grandchildren. Last week her father said he would return to his native Iraq to work as a translator and driver.

Angela Suleman, who is caring for the first six children — one of whom is autistic — while her daughter is in hospital, said yesterday that she had consulted a psychologist over Nadya’s “obsession with children”.

Nadya Suleman, who describes herself as a “professional student” living off education grants and parental money, broke up with her boyfriend before the birth of her first child seven years ago.

The identity of the octuplets’ father remains unknown, but local reports suggest they were conceived with frozen sperm donated by a friend she met while working at a fertility clinic. He is the father of her twins, born two years ago.

Michael Tucker of the Georgia Reproductive Clinic, Atlanta, said Suleman’s story stunned him. “We are policed by the American Society for Reproductive Medicine, which frowns upon implanting more than two or three embryos at a time. It is remarkable that any practitioner would undertake such a practice.”

The babies, born nine weeks prematurely by C-section, were attended to by 46 medical staff, who expected seven babies. When the eighth — a boy — appeared, doctors were “confounded”.

Angela Suleman said her daughter was advised to terminate some of the embryos in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy for the sake of her health, but she refused because she did not know how to make such a life-or-death decision.

“She doesn’t have any more, so it’s over now. It has to be,” said the grandmother.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Reynolds1863 on 02/01/09 at 10:54 am


She definitely is going to need lots of help,whether it's from the state or just local support. There is a good chance that more than one of her kids will have health issues

I've read she plans on making money through intreviews(Oprah)

THE single mother of octuplets born in California last week is seeking $2m (£1.37m) from media interviews and commercial sponsorship to help pay the cost of raising the children.

Nadya Suleman, 33, plans a career as a television childcare expert after it emerged last week that she already had six children before giving birth on Monday. She now has 14 below the age of eight.

Although still confined to an LA hospital bed, she intends to talk to two influential television hosts this week — media mogul Oprah Winfrey, and Diane Sawyer, who presents Good Morning America.

Her family has told agents she needs cash from deals such as nappy sponsorship — she will get through 250 a week in the next few months — and the agents will gauge public reaction to her story.
Related Links

    * Octuplets' mother may have had multiple IVF

Her earning power, though, could be diminished by a growing ethical and medical controversy. Experts believe that the unnamed fertility specialists who gave her in vitro fertilisation (IVF) should not have implanted so many embryos, and in choosing to carry all eight to term, Suleman ignored guidelines, risking both their health and her own.

US public reaction has been mixed: many have asked how an unemployed single mother can raise 14 children, as her first six have already strained the family budget. Angela and Ed Suleman, Nadya’s parents,bought her a two-bedroom bungalow in the suburb of Whittier in March 2007, but soon after got into debt and had to leave their own home.

They filed for bankruptcy and moved in with their daughter and grandchildren. Last week her father said he would return to his native Iraq to work as a translator and driver.

Angela Suleman, who is caring for the first six children — one of whom is autistic — while her daughter is in hospital, said yesterday that she had consulted a psychologist over Nadya’s “obsession with children”.

Nadya Suleman, who describes herself as a “professional student” living off education grants and parental money, broke up with her boyfriend before the birth of her first child seven years ago.

The identity of the octuplets’ father remains unknown, but local reports suggest they were conceived with frozen sperm donated by a friend she met while working at a fertility clinic. He is the father of her twins, born two years ago.

Michael Tucker of the Georgia Reproductive Clinic, Atlanta, said Suleman’s story stunned him. “We are policed by the American Society for Reproductive Medicine, which frowns upon implanting more than two or three embryos at a time. It is remarkable that any practitioner would undertake such a practice.”

The babies, born nine weeks prematurely by C-section, were attended to by 46 medical staff, who expected seven babies. When the eighth — a boy — appeared, doctors were “confounded”.

Angela Suleman said her daughter was advised to terminate some of the embryos in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy for the sake of her health, but she refused because she did not know how to make such a life-or-death decision.

“She doesn’t have any more, so it’s over now. It has to be,” said the grandmother.


So Oprah is going to be the bread winner.  What if she says no?  2 million with 14 kids that will only last her about 2 years.  Her Mother is really upset with her and said she won't be there when she and the kids get back.  This woman is so irresponsible even hardcore pro-lifers are disgusted.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 02/01/09 at 12:26 pm

For the sake of those kids, I hope the family nets a few million from media hype.

Most people I know who have kids have one or two and they struggle to provide these tiny families with a decent life.  This woman had six kids already--one of whom is autistic.  She is a single mother with scant resources.  A lot of women in the same boat would consider a tubal ligation not IVF!

Fourteen children in two-bedroom bungalow is a prescription for problems, so let the corporations pay her millions for endorsements and appearances.  The let the lawyers put all that money in a trust for the kids.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: CatwomanofV on 02/01/09 at 12:33 pm


I think it is a bit too early to make that call.  The state taking away children who have not been abused or mistreated yet would set a dangerous precedence, even in this unusual situation.



You are right, it would set a very dangerous precedence but I can't imagine how a single mother (with the help of her parents) be able to take care of 14 kids-8 of them being infants. I'm not talking about the financial aspect of it, I'm talking about the physical-feeding, diaper changing, bathing, etc. etc.




Cat

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 02/01/09 at 1:48 pm



You are right, it would set a very dangerous precedence but I can't imagine how a single mother (with the help of her parents) be able to take care of 14 kids-8 of them being infants. I'm not talking about the financial aspect of it, I'm talking about the physical-feeding, diaper changing, bathing, etc. etc.




Cat


I agree.

Of course it was terribly irresponsible and I would say mentally unsound.  What's done is done.  A million bucks from Huggies and Oprah might buy a bigger house and some nannies.

This would be preferable in lieu of state custody and foster "care."

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Marian on 02/01/09 at 2:30 pm


I'll bet mom is over 40 and fertility drugs were involved!
::)
Fertility drugsWERE involved,but she is 33.A good friend of hers was apparently the donor.So he had to have known she lives with her mom,has6 other kids,and has anOCD disorder asisobsessedwith havingkids.I say the days of letting the male donor be totally financially uninvolved should end.idon'tv care ifhe's gay,married,or what--he is equally guilty,so he should pay the taxpayers of california equally---or betteryet,more,sincebothnadya nadher mom apparently have no money.Isure hope he's wealthy,becauseifhe'struly her friend,he'll want to pay to support these extra kids.My state is in a financial deadlock,and someone  thinks  it's okay to stick the taxpayers with millions of dollars in support.You knowthat'showit's going to end up.Inthe sanjose mercury news,there is an article about people having trouble keeping their homes on the preceeding page.i probably could have bought a house with the money that was spent on her.Arnold,is there any chance Canada will take Nadyaher kids,,her mother,and the donor?Please?

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Marian on 02/01/09 at 2:32 pm


For the sake of those kids, I hope the family nets a few million from media hype.

Most people I know who have kids have one or two and they struggle to provide these tiny families with a decent life.  This woman had six kids already--one of whom is autistic.  She is a single mother with scant resources.  A lot of women in the same boat would consider a tubal ligation not IVF!

Fourteen children in two-bedroom bungalow is a prescription for problems, so let the corporations pay her millions for endorsements and appearances.  The let the lawyers put all that money in a trust for the kids.
Maybe the ones she had werent good enough for her!

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: LyricBoy on 02/01/09 at 3:44 pm

Well if she gets $2MM from celebrity endorsements, that will get her the funding for her next round of IVF.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Reynolds1863 on 02/01/09 at 3:45 pm


Well if she gets $2MM from celebrity endorsements, that will get her the funding for her next round of IVF.


Don't give her any ideals. >:(

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 02/01/09 at 5:42 pm


Well if she gets $2MM from celebrity endorsements, that will get her the funding for her next round of IVF.


The word from her mother is that the eggs implanted were her own, and the last of the ones she had harvested.

I would guess that Oprah may discuss the case, but won't have the woman on so as not to encourage others to pull a similar stunt.  The children will probably be given health care, more as a way to study them as opposed to any other reason.  I do not doubt that there are people waiting in the wings wanting to help out just to be part of the spotlight.  We'll see.....

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: LyricBoy on 02/01/09 at 7:29 pm


The word from her mother is that the eggs implanted were her own, and the last of the ones she had harvested.



There are plenty of frozen embryos that she could adopt and have implanted.  She's only 33...

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 02/02/09 at 12:09 am


There are plenty of frozen embryos that she could adopt and have implanted.  She's only 33...


They'll make good Sweet Sixteen presents!
:D

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Reynolds1863 on 02/02/09 at 9:24 am


There are plenty of frozen embryos that she could adopt and have implanted.  She's only 33...


Knock it off. >:(  You're not helping the situation any.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Marian on 02/02/09 at 4:49 pm


Knock it off. >:(  You're not helping the situation any.
:P :P :P :P :Poh snap!

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 02/02/09 at 5:16 pm


Knock it off. >:(  You're not helping the situation any.


Knock it off, Knock it up,  there's too much knocking going on around here already.  ;D

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Reynolds1863 on 02/02/09 at 6:44 pm


Knock it off, Knock it up,  there's too much knocking going on around here already.  ;D


Fine we'll have her go for 21 and you're babysitting.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 02/04/09 at 6:03 am



Keep a knockin' but you can't come in
Keep a knockin' but you can't come in
Keep a knockin' but you can't come in
Come back tomorrow night and try it again
    ;D

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 02/06/09 at 8:24 pm



Keep a knockin' but you can't come in
Keep a knockin' but you can't come in
Keep a knockin' but you can't come in
Come back tomorrow night and try it again
    ;D


Heh-heh, I was thinking more along the lines of "Sure like to ball!"
8)

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: karen on 02/07/09 at 8:42 pm

Hear all about it Tuesday on NBC

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 02/08/09 at 6:08 am

I caught part of the interview.  Here is a woman totally divorced from reality.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Reynolds1863 on 02/08/09 at 10:39 am


I caught part of the interview.  Here is a woman totally divorced from reality.


That's an understatement.  I was smacking my head against the wall saying someone do something.  She already gone through the cash from both of her workmen's comp claims.  The hospital bill alone is millions.  She plans on going back to school in the fall.  She said she doesn't want public assistance guess Oprah doesn't qualify.  Someone needs to give her a reality check for the sake of all 14 kids.  Cat hoarders can be arrested for animal cruelty.  Even though the person who is doing the hoarding claim it's out of love, it's an abusive situation.  Can't believe I just made that comparison but I did.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 02/08/09 at 2:03 pm



Cat hoarders can be arrested for animal cruelty.  Even though the person who is doing the hoarding claim it's out of love, it's an abusive situation.  Can't believe I just made that comparison but I did.



Actually, that is a very good comparison

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Marian on 02/08/09 at 2:46 pm


That's an understatement.  I was smacking my head against the wall saying someone do something.  She already gone through the cash from both of her workmen's comp claims.  The hospital bill alone is millions.  She plans on going back to school in the fall.  She said she doesn't want public assistance guess Oprah doesn't qualify.  Someone needs to give her a reality check for the sake of all 14 kids.  Cat hoarders can be arrested for animal cruelty.  Even though the person who is doing the hoarding claim it's out of love, it's an abusive situation.  Can't believe I just made that comparison but I did.
it looks like she used some of that money to get some lip silicone.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Reynolds1863 on 02/08/09 at 2:51 pm


it looks like she used some of that money to get some lip silicone.


She's going for the Angelita Jolie persona.  Freaky isn't it?

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 02/09/09 at 12:40 am


I caught part of the interview.  Here is a woman totally divorced from reality.


Divorced implies she was ever married to it to start with!
:D

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 02/09/09 at 6:12 am


She's going for the Angelita Jolie persona.  Freaky isn't it?


I thought the same exact thing!  I was thinking 'here is a Angelina with stringy black hair' and no money.  I have a friend whose sister did the same thing tough, kept having babies, she ended up with 10 from multiple fathers, then tried to pass a child of her daughter off as her own when her daughter was pregnant and didn't want to keep the baby.  Soon as they are out of diapers she lost interest and wanted another.  It is a sickness and the kids pay for it.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 02/09/09 at 10:30 am


I thought the same exact thing!  I was thinking 'here is a Angelina with stringy black hair' and no money.  I have a friend whose sister did the same thing tough, kept having babies, she ended up with 10 from multiple fathers, then tried to pass a child of her daughter off as her own when her daughter was pregnant and didn't want to keep the baby.  Soon as they are out of diapers she lost interest and wanted another.  It is a sickness and the kids pay for it.


Ten dads?  How do they keep track of who's who and what's what?  You could make a bingo game out of that scene!
:D

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 02/09/09 at 12:00 pm


Ten dads?  How do they keep track of who's who and what's what?  You could make a bingo game out of that scene!
:D


3 dads of her 10(well, that is what she admits to), then the father of the daughter who is really the granddaughter.  I have to add that there was abuse in the home and the whole family was scarred by it.  If you look into Angelina Jolies childhood you will see the seeds of this behavior, she has been an obvious space case for a long, long, time.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 02/09/09 at 4:23 pm


3 dads of her 10(well, that is what she admits to), then the father of the daughter who is really the granddaughter.  I have to add that there was abuse in the home and the whole family was scarred by it.  If you look into Angelina Jolies childhood you will see the seeds of this behavior, she has been an obvious space case for a long, long, time.




Oh...I see.  Ten kids by three dads..you could have the reverse, but the reverse would be perverse!

:P

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Reynolds1863 on 02/10/09 at 4:08 pm

Remember when she said she wasn't on Welfare nor would she be?  Apparently a few of older kids have SSI and she's getting foodstamps.  No SSI isn't welfare technically however food stamps is.  Anyone who was hoping she wasn't going to take advantage of tax payers abandon hope now.  This story is getting more and more revolting by the detail. :P

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: karen on 02/11/09 at 1:59 pm

Did anyone else watch Dateline last night?

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Marian on 02/11/09 at 2:21 pm


Remember when she said she wasn't on Welfare nor would she be?  Apparently a few of older kids have SSI and she's getting foodstamps.  No SSI isn't welfare technically however food stamps is.  Anyone who was hoping she wasn't going to take advantage of tax payers abandon hope now.  This story is getting more and more revolting by the detail. :P
technically the kids are the ones on welfare.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: gumbypiz on 02/11/09 at 10:10 pm

The Nadya Suleman Family website is up...and asking for donations. Unconfirmed reports is that its already surpassed $200,000 in donations alone. The server for the site has already crashed several times already.

Whats bizarre is it actually has a link for comments, I don't understand why she'd want to hear what a generally disapproving public has to say... ???

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 02/13/09 at 12:29 am


technically the kids are the ones on welfare.


Yeah, but what are you gonna do?  Better that then the kids going hungry.  They had no choice in the matter.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Reynolds1863 on 02/13/09 at 6:15 pm


The Nadya Suleman Family website is up...and asking for donations. Unconfirmed reports is that its already surpassed $200,000 in donations alone. The server for the site has already crashed several times already.

Whats bizarre is it actually has a link for comments, I don't understand why she'd want to hear what a generally disapproving public has to say... ???


Raising 14 kids no amount of state money can pay for it all.  Reality is kicking in with her.  She also owes $50,000 in student loans.  She knows she not going to get the media deals she was hoping.  Yes, and in the comments were a few death threats.  I can see  people being angry at her choice however death threats are uncalled for.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: LyricBoy on 02/13/09 at 7:32 pm

I do not know why everybody wants to rag on Octopussy.  So she has 14 kids, big deal.

My great great grandma had 17 kids, and she had them the hard way...

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 02/14/09 at 3:12 am


I do not know why everybody wants to rag on Octopussy.


Uh-huh-huh-huh!
:D

  So she has 14 kids, big deal.

My great great grandma had 17 kids, and she had them the hard way...


My grandma had four.  If she had seventeen, you know what that would mean?  Thirteen more barking mad aunts and uncles at Thanksgiving!  Not to mention fifty-eight whacko neurotic cousins running around out there.  I mean, if just four of 'em were like me, we'd all have to be quarantined for the good of humanity!!!
http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/12/hiding.gif


Raising 14 kids no amount of state money can pay for it all.  Reality is kicking in with her.  She also owes $50,000 in student loans.  She knows she not going to get the media deals she was hoping.  Yes, and in the comments were a few death threats.  I can see  people being angry at her choice however death threats are uncalled for.


What that lady needs is a better agent!  Remember the Dionne Quintuplets?  No?  Well, if you were over 75 you would!  Anyway, we're much better at promotion and merchandising today than we were in the 1930s! 
8)

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 02/14/09 at 4:43 am


I do not know why everybody wants to rag on Octopussy.  So she has 14 kids, big deal.

My great great grandma had 17 kids, and she had them the hard way...


meaning.....she had to have sex with your great great grandpa?    ::)    ;D

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Marian on 02/14/09 at 1:39 pm


I do not know why everybody wants to rag on Octopussy.  So she has 14 kids, big deal.

My great great grandma had 17 kids, and she had them the hard way...
Poeple actually had to WORK for that in the old days!LOLmy 4gg had 11 kids---and in the census,for occupation,she is listed as having "none'.none of this "being a mom is a job " crap back then.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: CatwomanofV on 02/14/09 at 2:54 pm



What that lady needs is a better agent!  Remember the Dionne Quintuplets?  No?  Well, if you were over 75 you would!  Anyway, we're much better at promotion and merchandising today than we were in the 1930s! 
8)





It is a different story with the Dionne Quints. First of all, their mother did not use any form of hormone treatment-in vitro, etc. etc.  She had them the old fashion way. And she (along with their father) did not seek attention. This guy (can't remember his name) basically exploited the girls. Because the parents were poor, they didn't know how to fight for their parental rights. And yes, they did have other children also. Because of that asshole, the girls were messed up all of their lives. It was a very sad story.



Cat

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 02/14/09 at 7:58 pm



It is a different story with the Dionne Quints. First of all, their mother did not use any form of hormone treatment-in vitro, etc. etc.  She had them the old fashion way. And she (along with their father) did not seek attention. This guy (can't remember his name) basically exploited the girls. Because the parents were poor, they didn't know how to fight for their parental rights. And yes, they did have other children also. Because of that asshole, the girls were messed up all of their lives. It was a very sad story.



Cat


AND pops was playing touchy-feely with the lot of them, which didn't promote their future happiness!
::)

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: danootaandme on 02/15/09 at 6:29 am



It is a different story with the Dionne Quints. First of all, their mother did not use any form of hormone treatment-in vitro, etc. etc.  She had them the old fashion way. And she (along with their father) did not seek attention. This guy (can't remember his name) basically exploited the girls. Because the parents were poor, they didn't know how to fight for their parental rights. And yes, they did have other children also. Because of that asshole, the girls were messed up all of their lives. It was a very sad story.



Cat


The Church had their hand in that one too

Annette said she tried to discuss the abuse with a Roman Catholic priest at their private school; the advice she received was ``to continue to love our parents and to wear a thick coat when we went for car rides''

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Marian on 02/16/09 at 2:17 pm


The Church had their hand in that one too

Annette said she tried to discuss the abuse with a Roman Catholic priest at their private school; the advice she received was ``to continue to love our parents and to wear a thick coat when we went for car rides''
omg is that a pun? :P 8-P

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Marian on 02/16/09 at 2:19 pm

Their wuss of a publicist has quit because of comments like deserving to be put in a wood chipper a nd dumpedin the ocean!as if she didn't see that coming!She had to have known she would get comments like that before she signed up for the job!LOL

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Reynolds1863 on 02/16/09 at 3:24 pm


Their wuss of a publicist has quit because of comments like deserving to be put in a wood chipper a nd dumpedin the ocean!as if she didn't see that coming!She had to have known she would get comments like that before she signed up for the job!LOL


If she had read the news and the comments people were leaving she would have steered clear of it.  Besides once it came out that Nadya was not above lying she would have had to have bailed to save her companies reputation.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: LyricBoy on 02/16/09 at 6:09 pm

Based on some of the pics I have seen of Octopussy during her pregnancy, she oughtta be able to make Octomillions hawking anti stretch mark cremes, or even post-pregnancy tummy tucks.  ;D

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: LyricBoy on 02/21/09 at 9:21 am

I just checked out her website at http://www.thenadyasulemanfamily.com/

Pretty high-end.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: ninny on 02/21/09 at 10:35 am


I just checked out her website at http://www.thenadyasulemanfamily.com/

Pretty high-end.

I went there,I was tempted to  click the online donation  and then post Are you sheeshting me?.Who knows if the money would even go to the kids,probably more plastic surgery for her.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: LyricBoy on 02/21/09 at 12:42 pm


I went there,I was tempted to  click the online donation  and then post Are you sheeshting me?.Who knows if the money would even go to the kids,probably more plastic surgery for her.


She's been to Dr 90210?  What did she have done?  Massive tummy tuck? ???

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 02/21/09 at 12:53 pm


She's been to Dr 90210?  What did she have done?  Massive tummy tuck? ???


"Heh heh, better give her a DUMMY tuck, too!"

--Redd Foxx

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Reynolds1863 on 02/21/09 at 9:53 pm

Her parents house is being foreclosed and is scheduled to go on the auction block in May.  Apparently she's looking for one over a million.  Would someone please knock some sense into this woman.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: LyricBoy on 02/21/09 at 9:57 pm


Her parents house is being foreclosed and is scheduled to go on the auction block in May.  Apparently she's looking for one over a million.  Would someone please knock some sense into this woman.


Maybe she will get some mortgage relief under the O'bama stimulus package. ???

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Reynolds1863 on 02/21/09 at 10:04 pm


Maybe she will get some mortgage relief under the O'bama stimulus package. ???


Who's aid is she going to swipe?  It's going to take more than her own.  Next thing she'll start believing money either grows on trees or out her . . . (never mind you get the ideal)

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 02/22/09 at 5:20 am


Who's aid is she going to swipe? 


And whose ass is she going to wipe?
8-P

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 02/22/09 at 5:22 am


Maybe she will get some mortgage relief under the O'bama stimulus package. ???


She just better stay away from O'Baumagh's package altogether or there'll be MORE trouble down the line!
:D

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: LyricBoy on 02/22/09 at 8:15 am


She just better stay away from O'Baumagh's package altogether or there'll be MORE trouble down the line!
:D


I guess it all depends on what your definition of the word "stimulus" is...  ;D

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Marian on 02/22/09 at 4:58 pm


I just checked out her website at http://www.thenadyasulemanfamily.com/

Pretty high-end.
This would be a pretty goo 8)d site to trolll.

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 02/23/09 at 1:15 am


I guess it all depends on what your definition of the word "stimulus" is...   ;D


That was the first thing I thought of, Andrew Dice Clay, "Eh, I got something you can stimulate, stimulate this, huh!"
:P

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Reynolds1863 on 02/23/09 at 9:22 pm


This would be a pretty goo 8)d site to trolll.


That is way too tempting. ;D

Subject: Re: US woman gives birth to octuplets

Written By: Marian on 02/24/09 at 1:52 pm


That is way too tempting. ;D
Go for it!

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