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Subject: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: sonic2005 on 10/27/14 at 10:39 pm

I gotta go with 2000 on this one it felt the most 90ish to me

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: GH1996 on 10/27/14 at 11:39 pm

2002/2003ish

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: gibbo on 10/28/14 at 5:07 am

2007 felt soooo ... 2007. 

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: yelimsexa on 10/28/14 at 6:27 am

2001. It provided the most historic/infmaous event of the 21st century so far, and was the year that late '90s culture quickly was fizziling out. Harry Potter was perhaps the biggest cutural franchise of the decade and it really took off that  year. 2000 was hyped big at the time thanks to Y2K preceding it, but gets sandwiched between the '90s and the 21st century, being post-tech bubble but pre-terrorism/paranoia. 2002 has its culture but is in the shadow of what happened in 2001. 2003 is probably second due to Iraq, ringtone rap/emo, and any trace of '90s style practically history. 2004-06 all feed into each other, with 2007 sort of caught in between the mid-00s vibe and the late '00s culture with social media fully mainstream, the emergence of EDM, and the recession.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: Jquar on 10/28/14 at 5:58 pm

2001

-Bush became president
-9/11 and War on Terror came to define the rest of the decade
-Several big movie franchises got their start that year (Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Shrek, Fast and the Furious)
-Release of first iPod and first Xbox also came to define the rest of the decade technologically
-Fair amount of good music that year (Daft Punk, Gorillaz, The Strokes). Nothing earth shattering but it's probably my favorite year of the decade musically.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: Philip Eno on 10/28/14 at 8:46 pm

Every year, for each year is blessing to be alive!

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: Philip Eno on 10/29/14 at 3:22 am

January made me shiver.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: bchris02 on 10/29/14 at 1:04 pm

In this order.

1. 2007
2. 2000
3. 2001

2007 is the only year of the '00s I would consider truly distinctive.  It is also the most pure '00s year in my opinion.  '90s leftovers had finally disappeared completely yet it had little in common with '08 and '09. 2000 fits in with the millennium era that encompassed late 1998-very early 2001.  Most of 2001 is barely distinguishable from 2002.  The mid '00s lasting from 2003 through 2006 were a pretty uniform era.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: Howard on 10/29/14 at 3:19 pm


2001

-Bush became president
-9/11 and War on Terror came to define the rest of the decade
-Several big movie franchises got their start that year (Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Shrek, Fast and the Furious)
-Release of first iPod and first Xbox also came to define the rest of the decade technologically
-Fair amount of good music that year (Daft Punk, Gorillaz, The Strokes). Nothing earth shattering but it's probably my favorite year of the decade musically.


I think you're right about 2001 being distinctive.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 10/29/14 at 7:54 pm


I gotta go with 2000 on this one it felt the most 90ish to me


I started to agree with you. Then I thought some more about the year 2000. In the 90s, we were putting everything together for the 2000s. We were more concerned about the future (the millennium). If not for the ideas of the 1990s, we'd still be stuck in a very 90s environment. Going by that belief, 1999 was the last official year of the 90s. Look at the movies of 1999 and compare and contrast them to those of the 2000. Look at the X-Men franchise for starters, it isn't over yet. By the looks of things,it probably won't end until sometime in the 2020s. In the 2020s, we will have been tired of seeing Hugh Jackman as Wolverine over and over again. The X-Men films of the 2000s will be seen as retro because Hugh and Ian was in each and every one of them.

So, there wasn't a year of the 2000s that felt distinctive from the rest. All of the ideas thought up in 2000-2009 helped us to get to where we are today. None of the years were borderline like 1989 was. I say 1989 could be thought of as an 80s or 90s year because of Tim Burton's Batman. Look at the suit, before 1989, the only Batman we knew of was Adam West's Batman with the Neal Adams design. Nolan's Batman was also, literally, a dark knight.  Since Americans were getting ready for the 2000s in the 90s, we could call 1989 the first year of the 1990s, despite it having an 8 in the number.

In essence, most years of the 2000s had a feeling similar to those of the mid 1990s. We watched superhero movies, hung out at Sam Goody like mallrats and listened to post-grunge music. 2000 may have seemed different to you because Bill was still President. Make no mistake, 2000 was still very much a year of the 00s. In fact, I'd say late '99 (July-December of 1999) was the beginning of the 2000s. Think about it, there was a scare (Y2K Bug Threat), an American Pie film and Digimon premiered on FOX. Everything was there in late '99.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: yelimsexa on 10/30/14 at 6:37 am


I started to agree with you. Then I thought some more about the year 2000. In the 90s, we were putting everything together for the 2000s. We were more concerned about the future (the millennium). If not for the ideas of the 1990s, we'd still be stuck in a very 90s environment. Going by that belief, 1999 was the last official year of the 90s. Look at the movies of 1999 and compare and contrast them to those of the 2000. Look at the X-Men franchise for starters, it isn't over yet. By the looks of things,it probably won't end until sometime in the 2020s. In the 2020s, we will have been tired of seeing Hugh Jackman as Wolverine over and over again. The X-Men films of the 2000s will be seen as retro because Hugh and Ian was in each and every one of them.

So, there wasn't a year of the 2000s that felt distinctive from the rest. All of the ideas thought up in 2000-2009 helped us to get to where we are today. None of the years were borderline like 1989 was. I say 1989 could be thought of as an 80s or 90s year because of Tim Burton's Batman. Look at the suit, before 1989, the only Batman we knew of was Adam West's Batman with the Neal Adams design. Nolan's Batman was also, literally, a dark knight.  Since Americans were getting ready for the 2000s in the 90s, we could call 1989 the first year of the 1990s, despite it having an 8 in the number.

In essence, most years of the 2000s had a feeling similar to those of the mid 1990s. We watched superhero movies, hung out at Sam Goody like mallrats and listened to post-grunge music. 2000 may have seemed different to you because Bill was still President. Make no mistake, 2000 was still very much a year of the 00s. In fact, I'd say late '99 (July-December of 1999) was the beginning of the 2000s. Think about it, there was a scare (Y2K Bug Threat), an American Pie film and Digimon premiered on FOX. Everything was there in late '99.


I was first aware of the Y2K bug in 1998, and that's when the media came about it. By mid-2000, this problem was in the rear-view mirror. I will always associate this scare with the late '90s. Also, Digimon was of course a knock-off to Pokemon, which became big in Japan in 1996 and the rest of the world in late 1998. That said, 1999 is still quite '90s technologically (dial-up, pagers, monochrome cell phones, VHS still bigger than DVD, CRT monitors, CD players, Nintendo 64/Playstation 1 still dominant, even floppy disks were still around in the form of the Zip drive). Television also had a quick '90s-'00s transition with the decline in sitcoms and the rise of news tickers, crime dramas, and of course reality TV. That said, in terms of movies/music/fashion, those had a much more gradual transition between the '90s and '00s. It's fairly difficult to tell apart a movie from 1997 to 2002, while it is easier to compare one from 2002 to 2007 due to the decline of regular film and the rise of digital shooting.

That said, since I still view the 2000s as a dark decade (outside of some South American and Asian countries), it makes me emphasize what went wrong, and that makes 2001 and 2008 (IMO second place) as the most distinctive. 2008 had the big recession, disapproval from George W. Bush, gas prices hitting $4 for the first time, the expression "There's an app for that" becoming household, and today's music scene (as of 2014) heavily influenced by this. Those two years serve as cultural boundaries between the main 2000s, with 2000 and 2009 affiliated somewhat with the '90s and '10s, respectively.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: dnt88 on 10/30/14 at 11:17 am

IMO 2001 and 2008, the most important years of the 00's.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: af2010 on 10/31/14 at 1:47 am

I'd say 03/04 were the most purely 00s years culturally. That was basically the peak of the crunk/bling/excess culture that I associate with the 00s.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: Slim95 on 10/31/14 at 2:53 am

In personal life or pop culture? Personal life probably 2005 as that's the year I moved cities. Pop culture I really don't know.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: bchris02 on 10/31/14 at 6:03 pm


I'd say 03/04 were the most purely 00s years culturally. That was basically the peak of the crunk/bling/excess culture that I associate with the 00s.


Late 2006-early 2008 was the peak of emo/scene/MySpace culture though.  That is what I associate most with the '00s.  What do you think represents the '00s more? 

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: Slim95 on 10/31/14 at 6:50 pm


Late 2006-early 2008 was the peak of emo/scene/MySpace culture though.  That is what I associate most with the '00s.  What do you think represents the '00s more?

I associate everything before 2006 more with the 00s actually. 2006 you already started getting hint of what the 2010s are bringing with a few electro songs and Facebook and YouTube being big. Plus I was truly a kid before 2006 as I wasn't a teen then so my most fond memories of the 00s are from them. If I had to pick a year culturally I guess I would pick 2004.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: 80sfan on 10/31/14 at 8:37 pm

2003/2004 was an 00s decade walking cliche.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: Slim95 on 10/31/14 at 10:03 pm


2003/2004 was an 00s decade walking cliche.

Agreed. Even more than 2006/2007.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: Howard on 11/01/14 at 7:00 am

2006 you already started getting hint of what the 2010s are bringing with a few electro songs and Facebook and YouTube being big.

and almost a decade later both are quite popular.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: bchris02 on 11/02/14 at 1:51 pm


I associate everything before 2006 more with the 00s actually. 2006 you already started getting hint of what the 2010s are bringing with a few electro songs and Facebook and YouTube being big. Plus I was truly a kid before 2006 as I wasn't a teen then so my most fond memories of the 00s are from them. If I had to pick a year culturally I guess I would pick 2004.


I look back at 2006 YouTube as almost an entirely different animal from today's YouTube.  Today it is pretty much a money making machine.  Back then it was all about user-created content.  Also, in 2006 Facebook was by and large still the realm of college students.  It only opened up to non-students late that year.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: Howard on 11/02/14 at 2:07 pm

I look back at 2006 YouTube as almost an entirely different animal from today's YouTube.

Back then, you didn't click have a "Skip Ad" to get thru to the video.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: KatanaChick on 11/02/14 at 9:43 pm


In this order.

1. 2007
2. 2000
3. 2001

2007 is the only year of the '00s I would consider truly distinctive.  It is also the most pure '00s year in my opinion.  '90s leftovers had finally disappeared completely yet it had little in common with '08 and '09. 2000 fits in with the millennium era that encompassed late 1998-very early 2001.  Most of 2001 is barely distinguishable from 2002.  The mid '00s lasting from 2003 through 2006 were a pretty uniform era.

2007 was the last year before anything felt dramatically different, but new trends were creeping in. 2006 had no 90's feel to it at all, and musically that's when Rihanna started getting popular and snap rap was on it's last big year. Some of the songs were getting cheesy. Like the one by E40 called U and Dat.  :o In video games Xbox360 and PS3 were the must-haves in the console wars.


I look back at 2006 YouTube as almost an entirely different animal from today's YouTube.  Today it is pretty much a money making machine.  Back then it was all about user-created content.  Also, in 2006 Facebook was by and large still the realm of college students.  It only opened up to non-students late that year.

Facebook didn't evolve in a good way. I miss Myspace, even if it was aimed at a younger user base.


2001

-Bush became president
-9/11 and War on Terror came to define the rest of the decade
-Several big movie franchises got their start that year (Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Shrek, Fast and the Furious)
-Release of first iPod and first Xbox also came to define the rest of the decade technologically
-Fair amount of good music that year (Daft Punk, Gorillaz, The Strokes). Nothing earth shattering but it's probably my favorite year of the decade musically.

2001 was just the lead up to it, 2002 all the war on terror really got aggressive.


I started to agree with you. Then I thought some more about the year 2000. In the 90s, we were putting everything together for the 2000s. We were more concerned about the future (the millennium). If not for the ideas of the 1990s, we'd still be stuck in a very 90s environment. Going by that belief, 1999 was the last official year of the 90s. Look at the movies of 1999 and compare and contrast them to those of the 2000. Look at the X-Men franchise for starters, it isn't over yet. By the looks of things,it probably won't end until sometime in the 2020s. In the 2020s, we will have been tired of seeing Hugh Jackman as Wolverine over and over again. The X-Men films of the 2000s will be seen as retro because Hugh and Ian was in each and every one of them.

So, there wasn't a year of the 2000s that felt distinctive from the rest. All of the ideas thought up in 2000-2009 helped us to get to where we are today. None of the years were borderline like 1989 was. I say 1989 could be thought of as an 80s or 90s year because of Tim Burton's Batman. Look at the suit, before 1989, the only Batman we knew of was Adam West's Batman with the Neal Adams design. Nolan's Batman was also, literally, a dark knight.  Since Americans were getting ready for the 2000s in the 90s, we could call 1989 the first year of the 1990s, despite it having an 8 in the number.

In essence, most years of the 2000s had a feeling similar to those of the mid 1990s. We watched superhero movies, hung out at Sam Goody like mallrats and listened to post-grunge music. 2000 may have seemed different to you because Bill was still President. Make no mistake, 2000 was still very much a year of the 00s. In fact, I'd say late '99 (July-December of 1999) was the beginning of the 2000s. Think about it, there was a scare (Y2K Bug Threat), an American Pie film and Digimon premiered on FOX. Everything was there in late '99.

1999 was of course the last official year of the 90's! It ended in a '99.  ::) The 90's wasn't putting anything together for the next decade, everything naturally evolved like it always does. The 2000's wasn't "the future." It still felt pretty old school until the latest years, but it's pop culture was certainly distinct. The superhero movies are a bigger trend now than last decade. I'm so sick of alternative being called post-grunge. Alot of it doesn't even have a grunge inspired sound. Real grunge was short lived. The reason 2000 had late 90's elements to it was because there's always carry over. Something can start in the later part of one decade, but be more associated with the next because that's where it spent most of it's time.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: Slim95 on 11/02/14 at 9:48 pm


In this order.

1. 2007
2. 2000
3. 2001

2007 is the only year of the '00s I would consider truly distinctive.  It is also the most pure '00s year in my opinion.  '90s leftovers had finally disappeared completely yet it had little in common with '08 and '09. 2000 fits in with the millennium era that encompassed late 1998-very early 2001.  Most of 2001 is barely distinguishable from 2002.  The mid '00s lasting from 2003 through 2006 were a pretty uniform era.

I'd say there were zero 90s leftovers after 2002...

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: Howard on 11/03/14 at 1:26 pm

In video games Xbox360 and PS3 were the must-haves in the console wars.


I remember having the PS2 before having the PS3.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: winteriscoming on 11/04/14 at 5:38 am

To me the '90s ended when Third Rock From The Sun went off the air and the 00s started when Shrek came out. So about May or June of 2001.

The '00s ended sometime between the beginning of the Great Recession (December 2007) and when Obama was elected (November 2008), or when Facebook overtook Myspace as the choice social media. Thus I would peg the first cultural era of the 21st century as being roughly 2001/02 to 2007/08. This decade definitely began early; 2009 is much more similar to the years after than to the years prior and considering we're halfway through the decade now I think the current style will likely last until 2020 or later.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: Slim95 on 11/04/14 at 2:11 pm

Cultures of decades never start on the dot in a specific year. It always gradually changes as years pass. Sometimes there is a year where so many things change all at once and 2008 is an example of that. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think there was ever a year since maybe the 80s that so much change happened all at once like the year 2008. Music changed, Economy changed, New black American president was elected, technology changed, etc.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: Catherine91UK on 11/09/14 at 2:10 pm


IMO 2001 and 2008, the most important years of the 00's.

Yep, I was thinking the same thing.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 11/09/14 at 5:03 pm


1999 was of course the last official year of the 90's! It ended in a '99.  ::) The 90's wasn't putting anything together for the next decade, everything naturally evolved like it always does. The 2000's wasn't "the future." It still felt pretty old school until the latest years, but it's pop culture was certainly distinct. The superhero movies are a bigger trend now than last decade. I'm so sick of alternative being called post-grunge. Alot of it doesn't even have a grunge inspired sound. Real grunge was short lived. The reason 2000 had late 90's elements to it was because there's always carry over. Something can start in the later part of one decade, but be more associated with the next because that's where it spent most of it's time.


The spring of '99 was the last time we were in the 90s. I see 1999 as the first year of the 2000s also because of what occurred in the summer well into the fall and winter of the year. You're obviously a lot younger than I am because I remember the 90s from an adult's perspective. Stuff like Digimon, Pokemon, and etc. lasted well into the 2000s. They're only a "90s thing" because they were new in the 90s. That's what makes them 90s, they were introduced in the decade but spent far more time in the following ten years. The 2000s were the future to us, teenagers, at the time. I knew 2001 would look nothing like 1992 in 1992. Think about it, if people were not so ingenious in the 90s, then the 2000s would be no different from a day in the 1989. Nintendo certainly did not put out Pokemon with the intention of it just being around in the 90s. So, they were building for the future (the 2000s). That's how I see it anyway.

I think unknown superheroes are big thing in this decade. Look at how well Gurardians did in Theaters. The Supermans, Batmans, Wolverines and Spider-Mans were such a big deal in the 00s that someone came out with a Superhero Movie in March of 2008.

Would you consider Nickelback and Creed to be alternative? You're right about grunge being short-lived. It's funny, back in late '92, journalist  thought grunge would be the rock and roll of the 1990s. Boy, were ever they wrong about that one.

From what I have noticed, the new stuff from any decade always carries over into the next one. Those same things are "background props" in the next decade. They're never as popular as they were when they were discovered. There are some exceptions to the rule.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: batfan2005 on 11/11/14 at 9:39 am

So, there wasn't a year of the 2000s that felt distinctive from the rest. All of the ideas thought up in 2000-2009 helped us to get to where we are today. None of the years were borderline like 1989 was. I say 1989 could be thought of as an 80s or 90s year because of Tim Burton's Batman. Look at the suit, before 1989, the only Batman we knew of was Adam West's Batman with the Neal Adams design. Nolan's Batman was also, literally, a dark knight.  Since Americans were getting ready for the 2000s in the 90s, we could call 1989 the first year of the 1990s, despite it having an 8 in the number.

It's funny you mention 1989. That is how I remember that year too, as the beginning of the 90's. I was in 4th grade going into 5th. The earlier part of '89 still felt 80's and was connected to late '88 (my 4th grade year). When I started 5th grade, even though I was still in elementary school, it felt like it was more connected to my middle school years. Something felt different. The premier of the Simpsons in late '89 was part of it. It's funny you mention Batman. It was my favorite movie of that year and one of my favorites of all time, along with 2005's Batman Begins. It was a time when there weren't too many superhero movies. The Superman series with Christopher Reeves was really the only other one earlier in the decade. The 2000's had two different Spiderman series in the same decade.

As far as a borderline year goes, I think 2005 was a turning point of the decade which happened to be in the middle. The earlier part of the year still had the early 00's feel, but the later part of the year had more of what was seen in 2006 and onward. In the spring of '05, the music was dominated by songs like "Candy Shop", while in the later part "Gold Digger" was one of the only hip-hop songs at the top of the charts. The music of late 2005 had more cheesy pop, emo rock, and cheesy ringtone rap. 2005 was also the year in which MySpace became very popular, and the beginning of YouTube.

Other than that, 2001 was a big turning point because of 9/11, and 2009 because of the inauguration of Obama.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: Slim95 on 11/11/14 at 11:25 am


It's funny you mention 1989. That is how I remember that year too, as the beginning of the 90's. I was in 4th grade going into 5th. The earlier part of '89 still felt 80's and was connected to late '88 (my 4th grade year). When I started 5th grade, even though I was still in elementary school, it felt like it was more connected to my middle school years. Something felt different. The premier of the Simpsons in late '89 was part of it. It's funny you mention Batman. It was my favorite movie of that year and one of my favorites of all time, along with 2005's Batman Begins. It was a time when there weren't too many superhero movies. The Superman series with Christopher Reeves was really the only other one earlier in the decade. The 2000's had two different Spiderman series in the same decade.

As far as a borderline year goes, I think 2005 was a turning point of the decade which happened to be in the middle. The earlier part of the year still had the early 00's feel, but the later part of the year had more of what was seen in 2006 and onward. In the spring of '05, the music was dominated by songs like "Candy Shop", while in the later part "Gold Digger" was one of the only hip-hop songs at the top of the charts. The music of late 2005 had more cheesy pop, emo rock, and cheesy ringtone rap. 2005 was also the year in which MySpace became very popular, and the beginning of YouTube.

Other than that, 2001 was a big turning point because of 9/11, and 2009 because of the inauguration of Obama.

2004 is actually the year that is in the middle of the decade technically. There's no way early 2005 and before that is considered "early 00s" Early 00s are 2000-2002. Once 2003 hit we were well into the mid 00s. I don't think there was a big change in mid 2005. There are songs from 2005 and 2006 which sound like they can belong to either year.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: Slim95 on 11/11/14 at 9:02 pm



As far as a borderline year goes, I think 2005 was a turning point of the decade which happened to be in the middle.

Median of 2000-2009 is 2004. Therefore the middle year of the decade is the middle of 2004, not 2005.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: af2010 on 11/12/14 at 2:05 am


Late 2006-early 2008 was the peak of emo/scene/MySpace culture though.  That is what I associate most with the '00s.  What do you think represents the '00s more?


You could make a case for either one, but IMO it's 03/04. A lot of the trends that started around 06-08 lasted into the 2010s (skinny jeans, Bieber hair, etc.). Obviously 'Bieber hair' didn't have that name that back then, but there were a lot of people wearing it. A lot of the trends from around 03/04 (trucker hats, throwback jerseys, etc.) were pretty much confined to the 00s.

I also think crunk is the most distinctively 00s musical genre. It technically started in the late 90s, but it's mainstream peak was entirely in the 00s. Politically, there wasn't nearly as much backlash against Bush and the Iraq war in 03/04. Some people spoke out against it (like the Dixie Chicks, who were condemned for it), but the dominant political mood of that time was post 9-11 neocon paranoia, which is purely 00s.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: mxcrashxm on 11/12/14 at 7:34 am


2004 is actually the year that is in the middle of the decade technically. There's no way early 2005 and before that is considered "early 00s" Early 00s are 2000-2002. Once 2003 hit we were well into the mid 00s. I don't think there was a big change in mid 2005. There are songs from 2005 and 2006 which sound like they can belong to either year.
i think what Batfan was saying was that the first half of the 00s and early 05 had the early 00s feel because there wasn't much ringtones rap, social media, HD resolution, smartphones, and wifi. There was still more dial-up, SD resolution, variety of music, calling/emailing, less social media, and simple cellphones. Another thing in the early 00s was that gaming was still non-motion, computers were still huge monitors, VHS was still there, and the world was half-connected of analog and digital.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: KatanaChick on 11/12/14 at 6:30 pm


i think what Batfan was saying was that the first half of the 00s and early 05 had the early 00s feel because there wasn't much ringtones rap, social media, HD resolution, smartphones, and wifi. There was still more dial-up, SD resolution, variety of music, calling/emailing, less social media, and simple cellphones. Another thing in the early 00s was that gaming was still non-motion, computers were still huge monitors, VHS was still there, and the world was half-connected of analog and digital.

2006 was the heyday of ringtone rap. Both PS3 and Xbox 360 existed now too. Everything hadn't gone all digital yet though and old style computers were still used in homes.


Would you consider Nickelback and Creed to be alternative? You're right about grunge being short-lived. It's funny, back in late '92, journalist  thought grunge would be the rock and roll of the 1990s. Boy, were ever they wrong about that one.

Who said grunge would be rock of the 90's? It was just one style. The 90's was musically diverse. You had alot of alternative, that seemed to dominate. Then nu-metal came about which carried over to the 2000's.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: mxcrashxm on 11/12/14 at 6:42 pm


2006 was the heyday of ringtone rap. Both PS3 and Xbox 360 existed now too. Everything hadn't gone all digital yet though and old style computers were still used in homes.
It definitely was. By 2007, ringtone rap was gone. Yep, it was still a half-connected world, old computers were still used and dont forget the Wii, DS and PSP.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 11/12/14 at 6:46 pm


Median of 2000-2009 is 2004. Therefore the middle year of the decade is the middle of 2004, not 2005.


A decade can always be divided into thirds.

For the 2000s, it went more like this:

1999-2002: Transition to the 00s
2002-2005: The Early 2000s
2005-2008:The Mid 2000s
2008-2011: The Late 2000s

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: KatanaChick on 11/12/14 at 7:04 pm


A decade can always be divided into thirds.

For the 2000s, it went more like this:

1999-2002: Transition to the 00s
2002-2005: The Early 2000s
2005-2008:The Mid 2000s
2008-2011: The Late 2000s

2010 and 2011 are the 10's.  ::) Totally different decade. Same with 1999. Don't count the cultural spillover, count the actual years.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: Slim95 on 11/12/14 at 7:08 pm


A decade can always be divided into thirds.

For the 2000s, it went more like this:

1999-2002: Transition to the 00s
2002-2005: The Early 2000s
2005-2008:The Mid 2000s
2008-2011: The Late 2000s

Yes it can but early 2000s mean 2000-2003, I've never heard someone say those years were transitional and early 00s were 2005. When people think mid 00s it includes 2003-2005. These years weren't that different from 2006, still the same 00s stuff, ringtone rap, baggy clothing chains, gangster rap, Dvd players, Ipods, social networking with MySpace and Facebook and YouTube afterwards, etc.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 11/12/14 at 7:22 pm


2010 and 2011 are the 10's.  ::) Totally different decade. Same with 1999. Don't count the cultural spillover, count the actual years.


You can look at it that way, I suppose. I'll always see 2011 as the first year of the 10s. I can't ignore the cultural spillovers.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 11/12/14 at 7:33 pm


Yes it can but early 2000s mean 2000-2003, I've never heard someone say those years were transitional and early 00s were 2005. When people think mid 00s it includes 2003-2005. These years weren't that different from 2006, still the same 00s stuff, ringtone rap, baggy clothing chains, gangster rap, Dvd players, Ipods, social networking with MySpace and Facebook and YouTube afterwards, etc.


2000 and most of 2001 did not have the 2000s feel. I know most Americans look at 9/11 as the date when everything changed. I look at 2002 as the first year of the 2000s because it was the first full year we lived in a post 9/11 America. 2003 was nothing like 1993, there wasn't one huge pop culture shift. There was nothing significant about 2003 at all. Think about it, in 2005, thefacebook was officially renamed as Facebook. Youtube was created in 2005. 2005 was definitely the first year of the mid 2000s.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: Slim95 on 11/12/14 at 7:49 pm


2000 and most of 2001 did not have the 2000s feel. I know most Americans look at 9/11 as the date when everything changed. I look at 2002 as the first year of the 2000s because it was the first full year we lived in a post 9/11 America. 2003 was nothing like 1993, there wasn't one huge pop culture shift. There was nothing significant about 2003 at all. Think about it, in 2005, thefacebook was officially renamed as Facebook. Youtube was created in 2005. 2005 was definitely the first year of the mid 2000s.

I disagree with that. Even in the late 90s you had some hints of what was coming up in the 2000s with music. The whole Y2K thing and Oops I did it again were all part of the millennial 2000s era.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: KatanaChick on 11/12/14 at 7:53 pm


2000 and most of 2001 did not have the 2000s feel. I know most Americans look at 9/11 as the date when everything changed. I look at 2002 as the first year of the 2000s because it was the first full year we lived in a post 9/11 America. 2003 was nothing like 1993, there wasn't one huge pop culture shift. There was nothing significant about 2003 at all. Think about it, in 2005, thefacebook was officially renamed as Facebook. Youtube was created in 2005. 2005 was definitely the first year of the mid 2000s.

2000 did indeed have a "2000's feel." It wasn't like most of the 90's. Different music and fashion trends were already in place. Post 9/11 or not doesn't make a difference. Having Facebook and YouTube isn't significant. There were still other blogs available. Why do you always bring up 1993? Of course 2003 is nothing like it, it's 10 years from then!


I disagree with that. Even in the late 90s you had some hints of what was coming up in the 2000s with music. The whole Y2K thing and Oops I did it again were all part of the millennial 2000s era.

Exactly! Y2K is what comes to mind when I think 2000. That and boy bands and girl pop singers.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 11/13/14 at 6:46 am


I disagree with that. Even in the late 90s you had some hints of what was coming up in the 2000s with music. The whole Y2K thing and Oops I did it again were all part of the millennial 2000s era.


Yes, I know. From 1999 to 2002, you had a good idea of what was going to happen in the 2000s. '99 just doesn't fit in with the 90s, despite having a three 9s in the year. The Columbine shooting was the first horrible event of that whole 1999-2002 era. To you, y2k and "Oops I Did It Again" were all a part of the millennium. Brittney was slipping all throughout the real 2000s. In 2000, she was still bringing her A-game to her music.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: TheEarly90sGuy on 11/13/14 at 7:04 am


2000 did indeed have a "2000's feel." It wasn't like most of the 90's. Different music and fashion trends were already in place. Post 9/11 or not doesn't make a difference. Having Facebook and YouTube isn't significant. There were still other blogs available. Why do you always bring up 1993? Of course 2003 is nothing like it, it's 10 years from then!


I would have to disagree with your first statement. The 2000s were, as Time Magazine put it, "The Decade that went to Hell." 2000 and 2001 were shadows to 1999. Post 9/11 times were very different from the earliest years that Historians group with the real 2000s. It made a big difference, there were programs like American Dad on after 9/11. Facebook and Youtube were extremely important to the Internet Renaissance. There was a movie in 2010 about the invention of Facebook. It was called "The Social Network", in case you do not know.

1993 was the first year of the mid 1990s. I despise it because it brought an end to the time period I know and love. With 1993 came the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman and America
On-Line promos. 2003 wasn't the start to anything big, so it was not as significant as 2005. I know 1993 was nothing like 2003, thank you.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: Howard on 11/13/14 at 2:09 pm

Having Facebook and YouTube isn't significant.

Do you mean back then or now? ???

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: bchris02 on 11/13/14 at 8:58 pm


I would have to disagree with your first statement. The 2000s were, as Time Magazine put it, "The Decade that went to Hell." 2000 and 2001 were shadows to 1999. Post 9/11 times were very different from the earliest years that Historians group with the real 2000s. It made a big difference, there were programs like American Dad on after 9/11. Facebook and Youtube were extremely important to the Internet Renaissance. There was a movie in 2010 about the invention of Facebook. It was called "The Social Network", in case you do not know.

1993 was the first year of the mid 1990s. I despise it because it brought an end to the time period I know and love. With 1993 came the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman and America
On-Line promos. 2003 wasn't the start to anything big, so it was not as significant as 2005. I know 1993 was nothing like 2003, thank you.


There was definitely a definitive era between the real '90s and the post 9/11 '00s.  I call it the "Millennium era."  It lasted from fall 1998 through September 2001.  That era has its own distinct feel.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: winteriscoming on 11/13/14 at 11:01 pm


There was definitely a definitive era between the real '90s and the post 9/11 '00s.  I call it the "Millennium era."  It lasted from fall 1998 through September 2001.  That era has its own distinct feel.


I could vouch for this. That era kind of has a distinct feeling of its own that doesn't fit the stereotype of either decade. The Internet was completely mainstream in North America/Australia/Western Europe by 1998 but even just 3 or 4 years earlier many people had still never heard of it!

The fashion was definitely unlike what people wore during most of the 90s which was basically grunge mixed with the more homely things that were fashionable in the 80s. In the year 2000 people weren't wearing Cosby sweaters, turtle necks, fanny packs or coke bottle type glasses, stuff that was still very widespread even as late as 1997. And there wasn't nearly as much flannel or leather. By the very late 90s fashion was more sultry and "ordinary" people were starting to get piercings and tattoos on a large scale.

The whole Britney/Backstreet Boys/NSYNC craze that lasted from 1997 to 2001 sets the era apart both from the years before and after too.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: bchris02 on 11/14/14 at 1:54 pm


I could vouch for this. That era kind of has a distinct feeling of its own that doesn't fit the stereotype of either decade. The Internet was completely mainstream in North America/Australia/Western Europe by 1998 but even just 3 or 4 years earlier many people had still never heard of it!

The fashion was definitely unlike what people wore during most of the 90s which was basically grunge mixed with the more homely things that were fashionable in the 80s. In the year 2000 people weren't wearing Cosby sweaters, turtle necks, fanny packs or coke bottle type glasses, stuff that was still very widespread even as late as 1997. And there wasn't nearly as much flannel or leather. By the very late 90s fashion was more sultry and "ordinary" people were starting to get piercings and tattoos on a large scale.

The whole Britney/Backstreet Boys/NSYNC craze that lasted from 1997 to 2001 sets the era apart both from the years before and after too.


Great points.  I also associate the peak of Abercrombie and Fitch popularity and frosted hair tips on guys with that era.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: Arrowstone on 11/14/14 at 4:04 pm

Yes 1998-2001 was a time on its own. Eiffel 65 immediately comes into my mind.

As for the years, 2007 is special to me, though nothing special happened. It was the (last) peak of '00s culture,
and also the peak of my teenhood. It is the last year before "everything" became different.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: bchris02 on 11/16/14 at 9:23 pm


Yes 1998-2001 was a time on its own. Eiffel 65 immediately comes into my mind.

As for the years, 2007 is special to me, though nothing special happened. It was the (last) peak of '00s culture,
and also the peak of my teenhood. It is the last year before "everything" became different.


That was really a great time to be a teenager.  I remember everything in teen culture was centered around emo/scene/MySpace that year and even during 2008.  It was a terrible time to be graduating college as I was going into the recession and everything.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: batfan2005 on 11/18/14 at 5:34 pm


A decade can always be divided into thirds.

For the 2000s, it went more like this:

1999-2002: Transition to the 00s
2002-2005: The Early 2000s
2005-2008:The Mid 2000s
2008-2011: The Late 2000s


Here's how I see the cultural eras and a brief description of them:

1997-2000: The Y2K era
2001-2004: Post 9/11 paranoia and patriotic era
2005-2008: The MySpace era
2009-2012: The Great Recession era
2013-present: The world's going to s*** era

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: GH1996 on 11/23/14 at 3:52 am


Here's how I see the cultural eras and a brief description of them:

1997-2000: The Y2K era
2001-2004: Post 9/11 paranoia and patriotic era
2005-2008: The MySpace era
2009-2012: The Great Recession era
2013-present: The world's going to s*** era


Agree with the 2013-present  ;D really miss everything before 2010

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: sonic2005 on 11/27/14 at 12:32 am


I'd say there were zero 90s leftovers after 2004...

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Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: sonic2005 on 03/13/15 at 8:21 pm

bump

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/13/15 at 10:38 pm


Every year, for each year is blessing to be alive!
ditto!

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: ArcticFox on 03/14/15 at 5:37 pm


The fashion was definitely unlike what people wore during most of the 90s which was basically grunge mixed with the more homely things that were fashionable in the 80s. In the year 2000 people weren't wearing Cosby sweaters, turtle necks, fanny packs or coke bottle type glasses, stuff that was still very widespread even as late as 1997. And there wasn't nearly as much flannel or leather.


That is not what the '90s were like. Grunge peaked in 1994 and disappeared in 1997. The best of '90s fashion was infinite times more flattering than the '80s and '00s. You just described early '90s fashion. Cosby sweaters, fanny packs, and coke bottle glasses were last widespread in 1993. Afterwards, it was only middle-aged people and dorks who didn't care about their looks that wore those things. Turtlenecks were definitely still in in 2000. They were worn as far as 2005, my sister told me so (she was 19 then). And there's nothing wrong with turtlenecks.

A promo shot from Buffy season 1. 1996:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iigznreRbVA/UTFKoFz22xI/AAAAAAAACrs/SvnFUYXa420/s640/buffy_cast.jpg

A picture of the gals from Buffy in 1996:
http://www.whedon.info/IMG/jpg/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-season-1-promo-hq-01-0750.jpg

David Boreanaz as Angel wearing a black velvet blazer during the first season of Buffy in 1996:
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/buffy/images/f/f2/Angel-buffy-the-vampire-slayer-987905_356_480.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140129053745

A clip from the Buffy season 1 finale "Prophecy Girl". Sarah Michelle Gellar is wearing a prom dress. Filmed in January 1997:
https://dtsft.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/buffy-prophecy-girl-cast.jpg

Spring Break 1997:
http://www.csus.edu/org/sigma/ver2/images/spespring2.jpg

Here is a group picture of girls, summer 1997:
http://americanlegionauxiliaryunit16covingtonla.com/girlsstate_1997.jpg
Take note that this was in the south, which was two years behind then. This means that those clothes became fashionable in 1995 in the east and west.

A '70s-inspired dress from 1997:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xNo1CSwmArU/VByA2OKDXeI/AAAAAAAAG5w/xqM7XQUNYFg/s1600/90s01.jpg

David Boreanaz as Angel wearing a red velvet dress shirt on Buffy season 2 in 1997:
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/buffy/images/2/22/Tumblr_m8cppcadDE1r2ol81o1_500-1-.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120811122602

The whole Britney/Backstreet Boys/NSYNC craze that lasted from 1997 to 2001 sets the era apart both from the years before and after too.


It wasn't 1997 to 2001, it was 1998 to 2000. Both of those acts lost significant steam in 2001 with Britney's controversy over her new image and the Backstreet Boys and NSYNC's backlash. Besides, there were other more popular artists than those three.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: Todd Pettingzoo on 03/14/15 at 11:12 pm

I still say 1997-2001. At the time, 1997 felt so different to me compared to everything before. Not as much now, looking back, but still different enough.

The boy band stuff didn't really go away until 2002.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: SpyroKev on 06/13/15 at 5:56 pm

Um, I'm not really sure how to answer this topic. 2003 did feel pretty old school, already experiencing it.

Subject: Re: which year of the 2000s felt the most distinctive??

Written By: sonic2005 on 06/21/15 at 5:38 am


Here's how I see the cultural eras and a brief description of them:

1997-2000: The Y2K era
2001-2004: Post 9/11 paranoia and patriotic era
2005-2008: The MySpace era
2009-2012: The Great Recession era
2013-present: The world's going to s*** era

have to agree with this list

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