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Subject: Second half of 2004

Written By: the2001 on 12/15/15 at 5:28 pm

Is it just me or did anyone feel in the second half of 2004 its just screamed  "THE CULTURE IS HERE". Things
like Myspace debuting,Laguna Beach,Nintendo Ds, Emo fad (lasted like 4 years)

Anyone else feel the same way?

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: #Infinity on 12/15/15 at 5:35 pm

I already thought 2000s culture was heavily established by 2001 when things like Shrek, GameCube, original XBOX, and the first Harry Potter movie were out, but I suppose you can definitely say the second half of 2004 was when 2000s culture peaked.  In general, I consider 2004-2005 to be the definitive school year for the decade's culture, as it was basically the time everything distinctly 2000s was highly relevant.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 12/15/15 at 6:13 pm

I agree. That fall season things did feel different indeed. New tv shows on the air like Boston Legal, Desperate Housewives, CSI New York, Rescue Me, Entourage, House, Veronica Mars, LOST all being on the air. Nick, Cartoon Network, and Toon Disney all went through changes.  The re election of Bush. The housing bubble. WWE begun transtioning to Cena and Batista. The NHL had a DEVASTATING lockout, which pretty much destroyed hockey. Kobe and Shaq were no longer teammates, and now were bitter enemies. Metacore over taking nu metal, crank rap overtaking glam rap. It felt like we were officially in a TOTAL 2000s world.


Also Infinity, 2001 was a transnational period. MOST of the year still felt Y2kish. The culture was not fully established quite yet.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: #Infinity on 12/15/15 at 6:23 pm

Also Infinity, 2001 was a transnational period. MOST of the year still felt Y2kish. The culture was not fully established quite yet.


2001 was absolutely transitional, but it was also the first year that produced a significant amount of early 2000s culture (2000 had quite a bit too, but that year was still core Y2K).  9/11 was the clincher that made it feel like the 2000s zeitgeist was now more dominant than the late 90s mindset.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 12/15/15 at 6:27 pm

I would say Late 2004 through Early 2007ish was the absolute peak in 2000's Culture; The Butt Logos, Name Brands, Emo Fashion & Music, Crunk Rap, R&B, Myspsce, Early YouTube & Facebook, Tv shows like Laguna Beach and The O.C, etc.

I agree EazyMan, 2001 was more of a transitional year from Y2K Culture to the True Early 2000's Culture. It really wasn't until after 9/11 that the culture started transition fully to early 00's, most of the year while transitional still had a bit of a Y2K/Prosperous Vibe going on

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/15/15 at 6:33 pm

I always feel like all of 2004 felt pretty 2000's based off of the build ups and transitions from 2003. Myspace was already pretty big by time 2004 came around, if my memory is right. If there's one month that sticks out to me, it's June. June of 2004 feels very "the new culture is here!" That month was huge for mid-2000's Emo because it's when From First to Last, Aiden, Hawthorne Heights and especially My Chemical Romance all released major albums that would push forward and cement the mid-00's Emo Pop style while, at the same time, killing the late 90's/early 00's Jimmy Eat World style. Even early that year, bands like Sum 41, Good Charlotte, Simple Plan and Green Day started dressing darker and more "Emo" (in the mid-2000's sense of the word) and the music became less and less Pop Punk.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: mqg96 on 12/15/15 at 6:45 pm


If there's one month that sticks out to me, it's June. June of 2004 feels very "the new culture is here!" That month was huge for mid-2000's Emo because it's when From First to Last, Aiden, Hawthorne Heights and especially My Chemical Romance all released major albums that would push forward and cement the mid-00's Emo Pop style while, at the same time, killing the late 90's/early 00's Jimmy Eat World style. Even early that year, bands like Sum 41, Good Charlotte, Simple Plan and Green Day started dressing darker and more "Emo" (in the mid-2000's sense of the word) and the music became less and less Pop Punk.


LMAO! "Killing the late 90's/early 00's Jimmy Eat World style." Speaking of June 2004, from a kid's perspective, that's when Cartoon Network's golden age came to an official end and rebranded into the CN City theme look including the new logo (which the network still uses to this day abbreviated)! So ironic that you'd pick that month of 2004. Guess that makes since perfectly!

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/15/15 at 7:07 pm


LMAO! "Killing the late 90's/early 00's Jimmy Eat World style." Speaking of June 2004, from a kid's perspective, that's when Cartoon Network's golden age came to an official end and rebranded into the CN City theme look including the new logo (which the network still uses to this day abbreviated)! So ironic that you'd pick that month of 2004. Guess that makes since perfectly!


I remember that! Even in my 20's, I still watched quite a bit of cartoons like Johnny Bravo and Dexter's Laboratory so I can remember when Cartoon Network started changing up their format and totally removed all their old shows. I didn't even think about that but it all falls into place really well. It's weird how in summer 2004, everything from before was purged and replaced.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: the2001 on 12/15/15 at 7:09 pm


I always feel like all of 2004 felt pretty 2000's based off of the build ups and transitions from 2003. Myspace was already pretty big by time 2004 came around, if my memory is right. If there's one month that sticks out to me, it's June. June of 2004 feels very "the new culture is here!" That month was huge for mid-2000's Emo because it's when From First to Last, Aiden, Hawthorne Heights and especially My Chemical Romance all released major albums that would push forward and cement the mid-00's Emo Pop style while, at the same time, killing the late 90's/early 00's Jimmy Eat World style. Even early that year, bands like Sum 41, Good Charlotte, Simple Plan and Green Day started dressing darker and more "Emo" (in the mid-2000's sense of the word) and the music became less and less Pop Punk.


No one really used myspace until like late august of 2004 (around when school started)

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: the2001 on 12/15/15 at 7:09 pm


I remember that! Even in my 20's, I still watched quite a bit of cartoons like Johnny Bravo and Dexter's Laboratory so I can remember when Cartoon Network started changing up their format and totally removed all their old shows. I didn't even think about that but it all falls into place really well. It's weird how in summer 2004, everything from before was purged and replaced.

dont forget Toonami got relegated to late night time slot on Saturdays

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/15/15 at 7:13 pm


No one really used myspace until like late august of 2004 (around when school started)


Ah, ok. I was never too hip on social networking sites.


dont forget Toonami got relegated to late night time slot on Saturdays


That's right, too, isn't it. A lot of really big changes took place in 2004.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: the2001 on 12/15/15 at 7:20 pm


Ah, ok. I was never too hip on social networking sites.

That's right, too, isn't it. A lot of really big changes took place in 2004.


The new Cartoon Network era debuted, Was not even that bad, Toonami stopped airing on weekdays which kinda sucked.
2004 also brought in these flip phones that had camreas and Sidekicks, sidekicks blew up around Nov 2004.

Sidekicks were like the smartphone of the mid 2000s

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/bg/T+Mobile+Sidekick+II+party+IGqouSChytNx.jpg

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/15/15 at 7:25 pm


The new Cartoon Network era debuted, Was not even that bad, Toonami stopped airing on weekdays which kinda sucked.
2004 also brought in these flip phones that had camreas and Sidekicks, sidekicks blew up around Nov 2004.

Sidekicks were like the smartphone of the mid 2000s



Yeah! I remember those things! Another thing that got really really big in 2004 was the iPod. That completely replaced the Discman.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: the2001 on 12/15/15 at 7:28 pm


Yeah! I remember those things! Another thing that got really really big in 2004 was the iPod. That completely replaced the Discman.

Yup, the IPOD also blew up in the fall of 2004, IPOD pretty much gave the middle finger to the discman and kicked its ass.
Itunes was also a huge factor IPOd was good, the interface was easy to use.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: the2001 on 12/15/15 at 7:33 pm

late 2004 fashion in a nutshell

http://www.party-favors.biz/lwt-052304/lwt-052304-8.jpg

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: 80sfan on 12/15/15 at 7:46 pm

There's no difference to me!  :(

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: 80sfan on 12/15/15 at 7:47 pm


late 2004 fashion in a nutshell

http://www.party-favors.biz/lwt-052304/lwt-052304-8.jpg


Brings back memories. I was 15 for most of 2004. Yup, that's how we dressed.  8)

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/15/15 at 7:57 pm


Yup, the IPOD also blew up in the fall of 2004, IPOD pretty much gave the middle finger to the discman and kicked its ass.
Itunes was also a huge factor IPOd was good, the interface was easy to use.


Same with the DVD and Broadband. Threw VHS and Dial-Up out the window.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/15/15 at 7:59 pm

Rock bands of 2004:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cTd4O3PHBIQ/UCX1OfceqtI/AAAAAAAAAII/MDI4AbR6ImA/s320/Discogs_FromFirstToLast.jpg

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: SpyroKev on 12/16/15 at 7:55 am


There's no difference to me!  :(


These are the type of topics I don't know how to answer haha The only later half difference of a year I noticed was 2003.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Howard on 12/16/15 at 2:33 pm

Ah, ok. I was never too hip on social networking sites.

Why not?

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: bchris02 on 12/16/15 at 3:29 pm


I would say Late 2004 through Early 2007ish was the absolute peak in 2000's Culture; The Butt Logos, Name Brands, Emo Fashion & Music, Crunk Rap, R&B, Myspsce, Early YouTube & Facebook, Tv shows like Laguna Beach and The O.C, etc.


I agree with this.  I would say mid 2004 through mid 2007 or possibly early 2008 was the peak of the '00s.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: #Infinity on 12/16/15 at 9:33 pm

I think the peak of 2000s culture was roughly early 2003 through the summer of 2007.  After the conclusion of shows like The Sopranos, 7th Heaven, Veronica Mars, and Gilmore Girls, plus the release of the final Harry Potter novel, emergence of pseudo-dance influences in pop music, full takeoff of the seventh generation of gaming with the explosion of iconic modern franchises on XBOX 360 and PS3, the discontinuation of the GameCube and original XBOX, premiere of shows popular in the 2010s like Mad Men and The Big Bang Theory, the releases of Superbad and Juno, YouTube beginning to truly diversify its range of shows beyond just Smosh and gaming channels like AVGN (not to mention everyone knew what it was by this point), the transition into the Web 2.0 era being complete, the initial signs of the Recession, and the iPhone existing, popular culture started to feel significantly removed from what it was for the majority of the 2000s decade, even though the 2010s zeitgeist clearly wasn't established yet.  The shift between the 2006-2007 and 2007-2008 school years was not huge, but it was still just enough to tip the scale of cultural influences away from the core 2000s and more towards the dawn of the 2010s.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Baltimoreian on 12/16/15 at 9:43 pm


Same with the DVD and Broadband. Threw VHS and Dial-Up out the window.


Although, VHS tapes and dial-up Internet stayed in the mid 2000s for a while to some people.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: bchris02 on 12/17/15 at 12:01 am


The shift between the 2006-2007 and 2007-2008 school years was not huge, but it was still just enough to tip the scale of cultural influences away from the core 2000s and more towards the dawn of the 2010s.


I would say this is more true for the 2008-09 school year.  I would say 2007-08 was the last classic '00s school year.

The first half of 2008 was more like 2004 than it was like 2011.  There was no electropop on the charts at all and MySpace was still more popular than Facebook.  Emo and scene were still predominant.  Other than that, I agree with the rest of your post.  The 2004-08 period was defined by the transition from Web 1.0 to 2.0.


Although, VHS tapes and dial-up Internet stayed in the mid 2000s for a while to some people.


I got broadband finally in 2005.  A lot of people still had dial-up much longer though.  It wasn't until the late '00s that dial-up reached a point where it was no longer relevant.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 12/17/15 at 1:03 am


I agree with this. I would say mid 2004 through mid 2007 or possibly early 2008 was the peak of the '00s.

This.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: #Infinity on 12/17/15 at 2:55 am


I would say this is more true for the 2008-09 school year.  I would say 2007-08 was the last classic '00s school year.

The first half of 2008 was more like 2004 than it was like 2011.  There was no electropop on the charts at all and MySpace was still more popular than Facebook.  Emo and scene were still predominant.  Other than that, I agree with the rest of your post.  The 2004-08 period was defined by the transition from Web 1.0 to 2.0.


I disagree, I think even the first half of 2008 was closer to 2011, even if not by much.  2004 had no YouTube, Wikipedia and Facebook weren't relevant yet, iPods and MySpace only just entered mainstream popularity, pop punk was still not finished transitioning into pop-emo, America reelected George W. Bush, 50 Cent and Lil' Jon were still more popular than Lil' Wayne and T.I., Rihanna was not famous yet, Lindsay Lohan was still on top of the world, Paris Hilton the famous-for-nothing celebrity of the day instead of Kim Kardashian, the sixth generation of gaming was in its peak, and the lineup of television shows in 2004 is extremely different from 2008 (i.e., no Office, no Big Bang Theory, no 30 Rock, no Avatar: The Last Airbender, etc.).  By the first half of 2008, Obama was extremely popular, 50 Cent's luck had completely run out, The Sopranos was over, YouTube was flourishing with videos of all sorts, HDTV was just starting to become mainstream, the seventh generation of gaming was in full swing, the economy was on the verge of collapse, Facebook was nearly as popular as MySpace, and Bush was overwhelmingly reviled, with the United States heading in a more progressive direction.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/17/15 at 3:17 pm


Although, VHS tapes and dial-up Internet stayed in the mid 2000s for a while to some people.


This is true. I think the last time that VHS and dial-up was the norm was probably 2003. After that DVD and broadband took over, but, the last time they were still used by a somewhat decent amount of people was maybe 2006 or 2007. It still wasn't really common to see by then, though. I, on the other hand, still use my VCR to this day. Nothing beats the good ol' tape.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Howard on 12/17/15 at 3:27 pm


Although, VHS tapes and dial-up Internet stayed in the mid 2000s for a while to some people.


after that it became an obscurity.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/17/15 at 3:28 pm


Why not?


I don't like how personal it gets. I'm not too keen on the idea of being profiled by these sites. I also don't like sitting there and staring at these photos of people. And when I want to talk to people, I prefer when somebody calls me on the phone to say hi and ask me about my day. I'd get depressed if I sat there looking at a bunch of Facebook profiles so I avoid it like the plague.


after that it became an obscurity.


Pretty much, yeah. From 2004 onward, I think 1/20 people you'd meet would of still had dial-up or used VHS.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: mqg96 on 12/17/15 at 3:29 pm


This is true. I think the last time that VHS and dial-up was the norm was probably 2003. After that DVD and broadband took over, but, the last time they were still used by a somewhat decent amount of people was maybe 2006 or 2007. It still wasn't really common to see by then, though. I, on the other hand, still use my VCR to this day. Nothing beats the good ol' tape.


Anybody can still use VHS tapes if they want to. It's their choice if they saved the old tapes for years. Either way, VHS has been past its prime since summer 2003 hit when DVD's entered its prime. Now throughout the mid 2000's I do remember the DVD players combined with VCR boxes still being common for a while. I don't even think that disappeared until the late 2000's or even early 2010's. At least around the time Blu-Ray took over in popularity.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41BJZFYC3TL.jpg

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/17/15 at 3:33 pm


Anybody can still use VHS tapes if they want to. It's their choice if they saved the old tapes for years. Either way, VHS has been past its prime since summer 2003 hit when DVD's entered its prime. Now throughout the mid 2000's I do remember the DVD players combined with VCR boxes still being common for a while. I don't even think that disappeared until the late 2000's or even early 2010's. At least around the time Blu-Ray took over in popularity.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41BJZFYC3TL.jpg


My parents have had a VCR since before I was born. It's from 1980 and before I moved out, around 2006-ish, they wanted to throw it out but I said "No way! I'll take it with me! All the tapes, too!" Still works and everything! Yeah, I remember those still being around until 2010 or so. Did you know Panasonic actually made Blu-Ray/VCR combos? I think you can still buy them somewhere.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Howard on 12/17/15 at 4:10 pm

I don't like how personal it gets. I'm not too keen on the idea of being profiled by these sites. I also don't like sitting there and staring at these photos of people. And when I want to talk to people, I prefer when somebody calls me on the phone to say hi and ask me about my day. I'd get depressed if I sat there looking at a bunch of Facebook profiles so I avoid it like the plague.

and that's why I don't have a Facebook.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/17/15 at 8:21 pm


and that's why I don't have a Facebook.


Same here. It's an invasion of privacy.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Zelek2 on 12/17/15 at 8:46 pm


Anybody can still use VHS tapes if they want to. It's their choice if they saved the old tapes for years. Either way, VHS has been past its prime since summer 2003 hit when DVD's entered its prime. Now throughout the mid 2000's I do remember the DVD players combined with VCR boxes still being common for a while. I don't even think that disappeared until the late 2000's or even early 2010's. At least around the time Blu-Ray took over in popularity.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41BJZFYC3TL.jpg

In which specific year of the late 00s do you think VHS completely dried up? 2007, 2008, or 2009?

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: mqg96 on 12/17/15 at 8:53 pm


In which specific year of the late 00s do you think VHS completely dried up? 2007, 2008, or 2009?


2006 actually. The last major Hollywood film to be released on VHS was "A History of Violence" in 2006.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Baltimoreian on 12/17/15 at 9:24 pm


Anybody can still use VHS tapes if they want to. It's their choice if they saved the old tapes for years. Either way, VHS has been past its prime since summer 2003 hit when DVD's entered its prime. Now throughout the mid 2000's I do remember the DVD players combined with VCR boxes still being common for a while. I don't even think that disappeared until the late 2000's or even early 2010's. At least around the time Blu-Ray took over in popularity.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41BJZFYC3TL.jpg


It died out in the late 2000s. In the early 2010s, barely anybody used a VHS player to play anything. Hell, even for me, I didn't use one regularly once the 2010s started.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Howard on 12/18/15 at 7:24 am


Same here. It's an invasion of privacy.


I don't want to view pictures all day.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/18/15 at 9:13 am


I don't want to view pictures all day.


Me, neither. If there's one thing I hate about those sites is that often people I know will add people that I don't like as their friends. During my personal time, I don't want to see the faces and pictures of people I don't like whatsoever. If my friends really have this strong urge to share their photos with me then they can invite me over and show me but I'm kind of glad they don't 'cause that'd get real boring real fast.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Howard on 12/18/15 at 1:05 pm


Me, neither. If there's one thing I hate about those sites is that often people I know will add people that I don't like as their friends. During my personal time, I don't want to see the faces and pictures of people I don't like whatsoever. If my friends really have this strong urge to share their photos with me then they can invite me over and show me but I'm kind of glad they don't 'cause that'd get real boring real fast.

This is why I miss the days of photo albums.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/18/15 at 6:12 pm


This is why I miss the days of photo albums.


All of mine are at my parents house. I got loads of photos of me and my friends, the different bands we saw, etc., etc. It's nice to look through but it's bittersweet because I miss those days.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Howard on 12/19/15 at 7:07 am


All of mine are at my parents house. I got loads of photos of me and my friends, the different bands we saw, etc., etc. It's nice to look through but it's bittersweet because I miss those days.


I don't need to be looking through a bunch of photos online, that's just me, I do it the old school way.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Philip Eno on 12/19/15 at 7:18 am

The winter of 2004 was wonderful!

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/19/15 at 10:08 pm


I don't need to be looking through a bunch of photos online, that's just me, I do it the old school way.


Same here and I like it that way. The old school way is the best way.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Howard on 12/20/15 at 2:45 pm


Same here and I like it that way. The old school way is the best way.


the original was our Facebook if you want to call it that.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/23/15 at 12:05 am


the original was our Facebook if you want to call it that.


Yeah, but not as much of a brain dead activity.  ;D

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Howard on 12/23/15 at 3:03 pm


Yeah, but not as much of a brain dead activity.  ;D


If I wanted to look at a picture book of old photos I have them stored in my Mother's closet.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: nally on 12/23/15 at 3:11 pm

I was still a fairly new member on this site, but I was a regular every day, and posted a lot. Elsewhere, I was an undergrad student at CSU Northridge, having a "take-it-easy" semester as I began to gradually shift towards a different academic major. Overall, I had lots of good times. :)

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/23/15 at 10:18 pm


If I wanted to look at a picture book of old photos I have them stored in my Mother's closet.


Haha, same here. Much like music, there is something special about having the psychical thing in my hand rather than some pixels on my computer screen.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: nally on 12/24/15 at 2:32 pm


If I wanted to look at a picture book of old photos I have them stored in my Mother's closet.

We have some such albums stored in a closet in our house too. :) This includes photos from my mom's childhood, into her early adult years.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Howard on 12/24/15 at 2:33 pm


Haha, same here. Much like music, there is something special about having the psychical thing in my hand rather than some pixels on my computer screen.


or listening to internet music.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Howard on 12/24/15 at 2:34 pm


We have some such albums stored in a closet in our house too. :) This includes photos from my mom's childhood, into her early adult years.


back then you never had likes or dislikes, thumbs up or thumbs down while viewing a picture book.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: nally on 12/24/15 at 2:37 pm


back then you never had likes or dislikes, thumbs up or thumbs down while viewing a picture book.

Yes, only online pictures have that option now. Actual physical prints don't have that option (technically), although you can personally like or dislike them.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/24/15 at 6:31 pm


or listening to internet music.


Nothing beats a good ol' tape/CD/record!

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Howard on 12/25/15 at 7:24 am


Nothing beats a good ol' tape/CD/record!


the sounds of the cracks and whistles of an old Victrola.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/25/15 at 1:35 pm


the sounds of the cracks and whistles of an old Victrola.


Those things are too old for me! ;D Growing up, my parents had an RCA turntable and stereo system.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Howard on 12/25/15 at 5:55 pm


Those things are too old for me! ;D Growing up, my parents had an RCA turntable and stereo system.


I'm older than you and I had a Victrola.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/25/15 at 11:28 pm


I'm older than you and I had a Victrola.


Did you have the really old looking model or something more modern looking?

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Howard on 12/26/15 at 7:23 am


Did you have the really old looking model or something more modern looking?


It was an old looking model.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/26/15 at 1:37 pm


It was an old looking model.


Did it have the really big speak that looked like a horn on it, too?

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Howard on 12/26/15 at 2:03 pm


Did it have the really big speak that looked like a horn on it, too?


No it was an old Victrola, no speaker.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: nally on 12/26/15 at 4:35 pm


Nothing beats a good ol' tape/CD/record!

And I have instances of all three in my home!

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/27/15 at 5:48 am


No it was an old Victrola, no speaker.


What year was it from?


And I have instances of all three in my home!


Me, too! I've never gotten rid of anything, either. All the old records, CD's and cassettes I got when I was younger I still use to this day. I always say: if it ain't broke, don't fix it!

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: nally on 12/27/15 at 11:55 am


What year was it from?

Me, too! I've never gotten rid of anything, either. All the old records, CD's and cassettes I got when I was younger I still use to this day. I always say: if it ain't broke, don't fix it!

Yep, all of my Cassettes and VHS tapes are still in good working condition. And we have a record player that we got in 03; this unit can also play tapes and CDs.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Howard on 12/27/15 at 2:39 pm


What year was it from?

Me, too! I've never gotten rid of anything, either. All the old records, CD's and cassettes I got when I was younger I still use to this day. I always say: if it ain't broke, don't fix it!


I'm not sure exactly.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Howard on 12/27/15 at 2:40 pm


Yep, all of my Cassettes and VHS tapes are still in good working condition. And we have a record player that we got in 03; this unit can also play tapes and CDs.


my cassettes are not in the best condition cause from wear and tear throughout the years.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/27/15 at 6:47 pm


Yep, all of my Cassettes and VHS tapes are still in good working condition. And we have a record player that we got in 03; this unit can also play tapes and CDs.


That's pretty rad! I would of taken my parents' old system but they still use it so I had to buy my own. I got a turntable but I had to the buy the stereo deck separate and this one guy I knew was selling one from 1988 with both the CD and tape deck  so I thought 'what the hell!' and I love it! I actually own a VCR from 1980. My parent's were early adopters to the format and they bought it before it was born. They wanted to throw it out but I told them I still use videos and they gave it to me. It works perfectly! There is so much charm in these formats. I don't get the same feeling listening to an mp3 or streaming a video.


my cassettes are not in the best condition cause from wear and tear throughout the years.


Hahaha, that happens. ;D Good things they're so cheap and you can find them almost anywhere.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: nally on 12/28/15 at 11:25 am


That's pretty rad! I would taken my parents' old system but they still use it so I had to buy my own. I got a turntable but I had to the buy the stereo deck separate and this one guy I knew was selling one from 1988 with both the CD and tape deck so I thought 'what the hell!' and I love it! I actually own a VCR from 1980. My parent's were early adopters to the format and they bought it before it was born. They wanted to throw it out but I told them I still use videos and they gave it to me. It works perfectly! There is so much charm in these formats. I don't get the same feeling listening to an mp3 or streaming a video.

Hahaha, that happens. ;D Good things they're so cheap and you can find them almost anywhere.

Most stereo appliances we had in the 80s are probably gone now. Either they died or became obsolete. This includes a TV set that we got in early 1989 but had to stop using in 2006 because it wasn't compatible with a new VCR that we purchased at the time. So we had to get rid of that tv (donate it somewhere) after 17 years of use.

Also I have a small TV set with a built-in VCR that I received in 2003 as a Christmas present. The TV still works fine, but the VCR quit working in '08 due to overuse.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: nally on 12/28/15 at 11:27 am


my cassettes are not in the best condition cause from wear and tear throughout the years.


Hahaha, that happens. ;D Good things they're so cheap and you can find them almost anywhere.

Yep, tape doesn't often last a long time.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Howard on 12/28/15 at 2:46 pm

Hahaha, that happens. ;D Good things they're so cheap and you can find them almost anywhere.

mine are just sitting in my closet collecting dust.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/28/15 at 6:32 pm


Most stereo appliances we had in the 80s are probably gone now. Either they died or became obsolete. This includes a TV set that we got in early 1989 but had to stop using in 2006 because it wasn't compatible with a new VCR that we purchased at the time. So we had to get rid of that tv (donate it somewhere) after 17 years of use.

Also I have a small TV set with a built-in VCR that I received in 2003 as a Christmas present. The TV still works fine, but the VCR quit working in '08 due to overuse.


Ha, wow! A VCR not compatible with a older TV? I've never heard of something like that! :o Sucks you had to get rid of the TV, though. I hate having to get rid of old things with a history behind them and I hate when they break, too. Lucky for me, my stuff still works.


Yep, tape doesn't often last a long time.


I've found the chrome and metal tapes last forever but the normal ones deteriorate quite quickly if you don't clean your system often.


mine are just sitting in my closet collecting dust.


I think I use mine almost everyday.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: the2001 on 12/29/15 at 11:36 am

Most tvs were grey during this time or had a silver finish

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 12/29/15 at 7:22 pm


Most tvs were grey during this time or had a silver finish

yup!!

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: nally on 12/29/15 at 7:26 pm




I've found the chrome and metal tapes last forever but the normal ones deteriorate quite quickly if you don't clean your system often.


And system cleaners are hard to find (at least where I am)...

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 12/30/15 at 3:06 am


And system cleaners are hard to find (at least where I am)...


You should check out this site called Bags Unlimited. They sell some cleaning supplies there. I bought from them and I'm satisfied.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Howard on 12/30/15 at 2:56 pm


Most tvs were grey during this time or had a silver finish


You mean the color?

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: shadowcookie on 01/02/16 at 7:52 am

In 2005, 32% of British households had broadband. In 2006, 44% did. In 2007, 57% did.

In 2013, 88% did.

Huge difference between mid 00s and early 2010s.. for us. We've gone from trailing the US in internet/broadband penetration, to exceeding it very easily. The US has fallen way behind.

http://www.statista.com/graphic/1/461291/broadband-penetration-in-the-united-kingdom-uk.jpg

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Philip Eno on 01/02/16 at 12:20 pm


In 2005, 32% of British households had broadband. In 2006, 44% did. In 2007, 57% did.

In 2013, 88% did.

Huge difference between mid 00s and early 2010s.. for us. We've gone from trailing the US in internet/broadband penetration, to exceeding it very easily. The US has fallen way behind.

http://www.statista.com/graphic/1/461291/broadband-penetration-in-the-united-kingdom-uk.jpg
What happened in 2010?

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Zelek2 on 06/07/16 at 6:46 pm

The first half of 2004 was the Y2K era in my opinion.

The second half was definitely not.

2004 has to be one of the most changeful years; it's like a switch got flipped the moment the second half was reached.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Baltimoreian on 06/07/16 at 7:27 pm


The first half of 2004 was the Y2K era in my opinion.

The second half was definitely not.

2004 has to be one of the most changeful years; it's like a switch got flipped the moment the second half was reached.


Because it's not like the second half of 2008 changed the world. No, let's go and focus more on why Y2K culture was distilled in 2004. *sarcasm*

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Slim95 on 06/08/16 at 1:38 am

2004 and 2003 felt the same to me. When you're 8 in 03' and 9 in 04', you don't notice much difference.  ;D

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: mqg96 on 06/08/16 at 8:23 am

Even though there was a cultural shift in the 2nd half of 2004 when mid 2000's culture was in full effect, late 2003 and 2004 felt the same to me, but early & mid 2003 felt like 2002 to me.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: af2010 on 06/08/16 at 9:16 am


The first half of 2004 was the Y2K era in my opinion.

The second half was definitely not.

2004 has to be one of the most changeful years; it's like a switch got flipped the moment the second half was reached.


The Y2K era was long gone by 2004. The dot-com bubble had bursted years prior, pokemania was well over, teen pop was irrelevant, crunk was at its peak, and myspace was already gaining traction. 2004 is a VERY 00s year to me.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Zelek2 on 06/08/16 at 11:16 am


The Y2K era was long gone by 2004. The dot-com bubble had bursted years prior, pokemania was well over, teen pop was irrelevant, crunk was at its peak, and myspace was already gaining traction. 2004 is a VERY 00s year to me.

But when you look at commercials for TV shows on YouTube, it seems the first half was like the Y2K era to me.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Baltimoreian on 06/08/16 at 11:27 am


But when you look at commercials for TV shows on YouTube, it seems the first half was like the Y2K era to me.


To be honest, 2004 is basically the most defined year in the 2000s. Early 2004 may had some Y2K elements, but it wasn't seen as big as 2000-2003.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Zelek2 on 06/08/16 at 12:28 pm


I remember that! Even in my 20's, I still watched quite a bit of cartoons like Johnny Bravo and Dexter's Laboratory so I can remember when Cartoon Network started changing up their format and totally removed all their old shows. I didn't even think about that but it all falls into place really well. It's weird how in summer 2004, everything from before was purged and replaced.


The new Cartoon Network era debuted, Was not even that bad, Toonami stopped airing on weekdays which kinda sucked.

CN died in 2006, not 2004, in my opinion (yes I know NY Eagle will disagree with me, I'm fine with that, everyone's entitled to a different opinion). The City era still had many many reruns of the 90s shows. It was after 2006 that you started to see the new stuff moreso.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Baltimoreian on 06/08/16 at 12:50 pm


CN died in 2006, not 2004, in my opinion (yes I know NY Eagle will disagree with me, I'm fine with that, everyone's entitled to a different opinion). The City era still had many many reruns of the 90s shows. It was after 2006 that you started to see the new stuff moreso.


To be fair, Cartoon Network wasn't really that good compared to other kids networks in my time. I know some people like mqg96 would disagree with me, but whatever. In fact, when I started to watch Cartoon Network in 2005, I was more into Boomerang because I didn't care a lot about the original CN shows. I could basically watch more of the 1969 Scooby Doo series, A Pup Named Scooby Doo, Tom and Jerry (along with Tom and Jerry Kids), Baby Looney Tunes, and some of the original Looney Tunes cartoons back then. However, I was into Krypto The Superdog before I became well into CN in late 2006.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Slim95 on 06/08/16 at 12:51 pm


To be honest, 2004 is basically the most defined year in the 2000s. Early 2004 may had some Y2K elements, but it wasn't seen as big as 2000-2003.

Yeah 2004, maybe 2005 is the most defining year of the 2000s.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Baltimoreian on 06/08/16 at 12:54 pm


Yeah 2004, maybe 2005 is the most defining year of the 2000s.


2004 and 2005 are the most defining years for the 2000s. I mean, it showed a lot of the decade's culture at the time.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 06/09/16 at 4:18 am


The first half of 2004 was the Y2K era in my opinion.
2004 has to be one of the most changeful years; it's like a switch got flipped the moment the second half was reached.

The Y2K era was done with in 2001... 2004 was solid mid 00s. The first half did kinda feel a little early, but NOT 2000 like...
Hell, 2006 was more changeful than 2004 .... ::) and 2008 was the most changeful year I EVER saw in my lifetime!!!! :D :D :D :o

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 06/09/16 at 4:20 am

A 2006 cultural debate is probably coming later today! :o :o :o

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Baltimoreian on 06/09/16 at 8:34 am


A 2006 cultural debate is probably coming later today! :o :o :o


Don't we already have one in the 2000 vs. 2006 thread?

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: mqg96 on 06/09/16 at 8:52 am


Yeah 2004, maybe 2005 is the most defining year of the 2000s.


I think around 2005-2007 were the quintessential years of the 2000's, at least here in the USA. Most of the fad's I can think of that were popular or most important for 2000's culture were relevant around 2005, 2006, or 2007.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 06/09/16 at 12:38 pm


Don't we already have one in the 2000 vs. 2006 thread?

That's not a 2006 cultural debate thread, that's debating which year was better than the other.....

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Baltimoreian on 06/09/16 at 12:42 pm


That's not a 2006 cultural debate thread, that's debating which year was better than the other.....


But we debated over how 2000 and 2006 were culturally decent from each other.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: 2001 on 06/09/16 at 12:52 pm


To be honest, 2004 is basically the most defined year in the 2000s. Early 2004 may had some Y2K elements, but it wasn't seen as big as 2000-2003.



Yeah 2004, maybe 2005 is the most defining year of the 2000s.


I agree! 2004-05 school year felt like the peak of the entire decade, and also the mathematical centre of the decade. After that we were getting into the more technologically advanced 2000s.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Baltimoreian on 06/09/16 at 1:00 pm


I agree! 2004-05 school year felt like the peak of the entire decade, and also the mathematical centre of the decade. After that we were getting into the more technologically advanced 2000s.


I always thought the 2004-05 and 2005-06 school years felt the most 2000s, in my opinion.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Zelek2 on 06/09/16 at 1:55 pm


The Y2K era was done with in 2001... 2004 was solid mid 00s. The first half did kinda feel a little early, but NOT 2000 like...

I disagree. If you look at commercials on YouTube from the first half of 2004, the culture  feels quite different from if you look at a commercial from the SECOND half of 2004.

They were still advertising things like Tamagotchi, Backstreet Boys, Wonder ball, etc. in the first half of 2004, which were dead and irrelevant by the second half.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Baltimoreian on 06/09/16 at 2:07 pm


I disagree. If you look at commercials on YouTube from the first half of 2004, the culture  feels quite different from if you look at a commercial from the SECOND half of 2004.

They were still advertising things like Tamagotchi, Backstreet Boys, Wonder ball, etc. in the first half of 2004, which were dead and irrelevant by the second half.


March 2004 commercials             
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September 2004 commercials
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Yeah, both of them look the same. Even if it came six months apart, they still look the same in 2004.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 06/09/16 at 2:19 pm


But we debated over how 2000 and 2006 were culturally decent from each other.

Good lord.... Your not understanding me. That was comparing two years. I'm planning going to discuss 2006 in general.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Baltimoreian on 06/09/16 at 2:22 pm


Good lord.... Your not understanding me. That was comparing two years. I'm planning going to discuss 2006 in general.


Fine. I have no problem with it.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 06/09/16 at 2:27 pm

lso
I disagree. If you look at commercials on YouTube from the first half of 2004, the culture  feels quite different from if you look at a commercial from the SECOND half of 2004.

They were still advertising things like Tamagotchi, Backstreet Boys, Wonder ball, etc. in the first half of 2004, which were dead and irrelevant by the second half.

Who gives a damn about commercials.... ;D  Also teen pop like Backstreet wasn't even relevant in 2004, even the first half. Glam rap and R&B DOINATED the first half of 2004, while crank rap dominated the second half.

I guess if you were a TV watcher, or into the kid culture then yeah; 2004 was quite impactful. But for people not into things it could be different.
It can vary on age, ethnicities, and what you were into. I still think younger generations could see Late 2001-mid 2006( the cultural early-mid 00s) as one big era.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Zelek2 on 06/09/16 at 2:47 pm


lsoWho gives a damn about commercials.... ;D  Also teen pop like Backstreet wasn't even relevant in 2004, even the first half. Glam rap and R&B DOINATED the first half of 2004, while crank rap dominated the second half.

I guess if you were a TV watcher, or into the kid culture then yeah; 2004 was quite impactful. But for people not into things it could be different.
It can vary on age, ethnicities, and what you were into. I still think younger generations could see Late 2001-mid 2006( the cultural early-mid 00s) as one big era.

I do. ;D I think they can be a good way to determine eras and the flow of pop culture.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Slim95 on 06/09/16 at 2:51 pm


I disagree. If you look at commercials on YouTube from the first half of 2004, the culture  feels quite different from if you look at a commercial from the SECOND half of 2004.

They were still advertising things like Tamagotchi, Backstreet Boys, Wonder ball, etc. in the first half of 2004, which were dead and irrelevant by the second half.

There's no way Y2K lasted until 2004. Y2K was about dot com boom and the anxiety over the internet shutting down in 2000 which was only in 99' and 00', but you can say Y2K was from 1999 to 2001. But 2004? That's completely different. If you're talking about early 2000s, that's separate from Y2K.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Baltimoreian on 06/09/16 at 2:52 pm


I do. ;D I think they can be a good way to determine eras and the flow of pop culture.


Even though commercials aren't even worth watching anymore. Aside from that, commercials aren't really that definitive towards the mainstream. Unless you were really into commercials, especially ones from the past, to see what television was like in the time period.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Zelek2 on 06/09/16 at 2:56 pm


There's no way Y2K lasted until 2004. Y2K was about dot com boom and the anxiety over the internet shutting down in 2000 which was only in 99' and 00', but you can say Y2K was from 1999 to 2001. 2004? That's completely different. If you're talking about early 2000s, that's separate from Y2K.

I wasn't talking about the event Y2K, I was talking about the "Y2K era" (i.e. ~1999-2003/4, the era roughly surrounding the turn of the millennium). Many people use "Y2K era" as a term on this board, but I haven't heard it much anywhere else.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Baltimoreian on 06/09/16 at 2:57 pm


There's no way Y2K lasted until 2004. Y2K was about dot com boom and the anxiety over the internet shutting down in 2000 which was only in 99' and 00', but you can say Y2K was from 1999 to 2001. 2004? That's completely different. If you're talking about early 2000s, that's separate from Y2K.


If we're talking about the Y2K paranoia, then it only happened in the late 90s. After New Year's Day of 2000, everybody survived and they weren't scared of computers taking over the world. But for the Y2K era, it only happened in 1999-mid 2001. Some could argue that 2002-2004 had Y2K elements, but that's the X-treme era that people were talking about.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 06/09/16 at 4:55 pm


But for the Y2K era, it only happened in 1999-mid 2001. Some could argue that 2002-2004 had Y2K elements, but that's the X-treme era that people were talking about.

This.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: nintieskid999 on 06/09/16 at 9:34 pm


I disagree. If you look at commercials on YouTube from the first half of 2004, the culture  feels quite different from if you look at a commercial from the SECOND half of 2004.

They were still advertising things like Tamagotchi, Backstreet Boys, Wonder ball, etc. in the first half of 2004, which were dead and irrelevant by the second half.


The Backstreet Boys were last in during mid 2001.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 06/09/16 at 10:46 pm


If we're talking about the Y2K paranoia, then it only happened in the late 90s. After New Year's Day of 2000, everybody survived and they weren't scared of computers taking over the world. But for the Y2K era, it only happened in 1999-mid 2001. Some could argue that 2002-2004 had Y2K elements, but that's the X-treme era that people were talking about.


No, it isn't. Xtreme took off in 1998 and lasted until 2003. Look at the Tony Hawk Pro Skater games. We had one every year from 1999 to 2002.


There's no way Y2K lasted until 2004. Y2K was about dot com boom and the anxiety over the internet shutting down in 2000 which was only in 99' and 00', but you can say Y2K was from 1999 to 2001. But 2004? That's completely different. If you're talking about early 2000s, that's separate from Y2K.


The early 00s are Janurary '00 to April '03. ;)

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Slim95 on 06/09/16 at 11:18 pm



The early 00s are Janurary '00 to April '03. ;)

I agree. But the Y2K era lasted until 2001, and that's different.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Slim95 on 06/09/16 at 11:20 pm


The Backstreet Boys were last in during mid 2001.

The Backstreet Boys made a comeback in 2005.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 06/09/16 at 11:58 pm


No, it isn't. Xtreme took off in 1998 and lasted until 2003. Look at the Tony Hawk Pro Skater games. We had one every year from 1999 to 2002.

Yup, the xtreme era did last until 2003. But it wasn't the most important aspect of the pop culture during that time.

The early 00s are Janurary '00 to April '03. ;)

Chronologically speaking yes. Culturally that's a different story... ;)

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 06/10/16 at 12:53 am



Yup, the xtreme era did last until 2003. But it wasn't the most important aspect of the pop culture during that time.

Chronologically speaking yes. Culturally that's a different story... ;)


It's one of the biggest and most important aspects of what the youth of the time were into.

No, what the chronological early 00s were fit in perfectly with everything the early 00s were about.


I agree. But the Y2K era lasted until 2001, and that's different.


Until 2003.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 06/10/16 at 1:09 am


It's one of the biggest and most important aspects of what the youth of the time were into.

Yea, maybe to your demographic or ethnic group but not mine. ;)

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 06/10/16 at 1:12 am


No, what the chronological early 00s were fit in perfectly with everything the early 00s were about.


Wtf? The latter part of 2003 was still early 00s though...  Hell even the first half of 2004 still felt early.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 06/10/16 at 1:17 am


It's one of the biggest and most important aspects of what the youth of the time were into.

It was important to young WHITE males like yourself. But that's not just what that era was about... It was also about the hip hop, gangsta culutre as well. Hell in the early 00s Glam Hip Hop and R&B DOMINATED the music charts. Those were actually the most popular genre during that period. Ask any black male your age that. ;) 

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: JordanK1982 on 06/10/16 at 4:18 am


Yea, maybe to your demographic or ethnic group but not mine. ;)



It was important to young WHITE males like yourself. But that's not just what that era was about... It was also about the hip hop, gangsta culutre as well. Hell in the early 00s Glam Hip Hop and R&B DOMINATED the music charts. Those were actually the most popular genre during that period. Ask any black male your age that. ;) 


Never mind the fact that I had friends of all different colors who listened to the same music, went to the shows and skated with me. Rock and Hip Hop were both equally popular among people my age whatever color they may be.


Wtf? The latter part of 2003 was still early 00s though...  Hell even the first half of 2004 still felt early.


Wasn't even an important part. 2003 is like the bootleg washed out early 00s and I'm not even going to say anything about 2004.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: nintieskid999 on 06/11/16 at 8:26 am


Wtf? The latter part of 2003 was still early 00s though...  Hell even the first half of 2004 still felt early.


You're one year off. The first half of 2003 felt early 00s and was still the xtreme era but you could feel changed towards the end of the first half. The second half was another universe.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: XYkid on 06/12/16 at 3:00 am


Wtf? The latter part of 2003 was still early 00s though...  Hell even the first half of 2004 still felt early.
I agree with this. 1998-2004 felt very retro-futuristic in my opinion, and metallic colours were in vogue, which gave the era a distinct vibe.

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 06/12/16 at 4:03 am


I agree with this. 1998-2004 felt very retro-futuristic in my opinion, and metallic colours were in vogue, which gave the era a distinct vibe.

Thanks bro!

Subject: Re: Second half of 2004

Written By: SpyroKev on 06/12/16 at 9:12 am


I agree with this. 1998-2004 felt very retro-futuristic in my opinion, and metallic colours were in vogue, which gave the era a distinct vibe.


I'm happy to say I'm within the group minority that felt the old schoolness in 2004.

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