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Subject: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 02/27/16 at 6:15 pm

Just post any photos or videos about this year, explain how your personal life was, any TV shows, movies, or music that you really liked from this year. Food products, restaurants, vacations, etc. Talk about the vibe or the fashion of how people dressed. Please no 9/11 talk, for once I'd like somebody to explain about the greatness from this year, and please lets keep the topic on the year 2001 when having this conversation :) I don't mean to be harsh or anything, I'm just really curious about this that's all. I'll post my thoughts on how 2001 was for me later. 

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 02/27/16 at 6:56 pm

FINALLY! A 2001 discussion without 9/11 for once! Got tired of seeing it pop up whenever someone mentions 2001.

Gaming wise the year was great! PS2, Gamecube, Xbox, and GBA were all released by the end of the year. Had games like Final Fantasy 10, Halo, Luigi's Mansion, Jak and Daxter, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Sonic Adventure 2, Super Smash Bros Melee. TV show wise Cartoon Network, Disney Channel, Nickelodeon, Toon Disney, Boomerang etc had tons of variety in TV shows to the point where it's one of best years for a kid/teen to watch cartoons. By 2001 there was Fairly Odd Parents, Invader Zim, House of Mouse, Justice League and many more.The Xtreme cultural trend was still going strong and it was cool to see nearly everyone in my neighborhood traveling by skateboard or scooter. I like the fashion as well. The bleached spiky hair, bright colored clothing, pukashell necklaces, backwards baseball caps or helmets if people were skateboarding or riding a bike, chains, school girls having that Lizzie Mcquire hair etc. In terms of music I loved the techno/dance music that came out that year. And when discussing personal life it was a great year. I live in Florida so it was fun to go and see the beaches and relax out in the sun. In the Fall we went to the Nickelodeon studios at Universal Studios which was really awesome.

Overall 2001 was a good year for me. One of my most favorites. 8)

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 80sfan on 02/27/16 at 7:01 pm

For me, personally, I really liked Jennifer Lopez that year, excluding that 'I'm Real' single with Ja Rule.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: SpyroKev on 02/27/16 at 7:24 pm

2001 was all around positive. The vibe of that year alone would have constantly repeat the hooks of songs to you. God, I miss Murda Inc's era. They were such a positive music label haha I had the biggest crush on Ashanti and the main characters from Disney's Zenon The Zequel. Rushing home after school to Toonami was the adventure of my day. Also, I'm just remembering how big fans of Sailor Moon we were. We would select our picks of who we had the most interest in from the series and our earliest friend would make up stories of us interacting with the characters before we fall asleep. 2001 was also the last year we slept on the floor under a sheet fort. Man, they were amazing connected with the fan haha I became more connected to Super Mario 64 during the time then my run with the PS1, but I do have great memories with Spyro The Dragon, Frogger 2, Croc 2 and Spyro: Year of The Dragon. I became obsessed with escalades, blown away by the Johto gen of Pokémon and actually disliked Penny from The Proud Family before she grew on me.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/27/16 at 10:08 pm

2001 kicked ass. So much good Pop Punk! All Killer No Filler, Take Off Your Pants and Jacket, With Hopes of Starting Over, Bleed American, Your New Favorite Weapon, Start Static, Perhaps I suppose. The movies were also totally rad. American Pie 2, Yet Another Teen Movie, Zoolander. My god, what an amazing year. I gotta say I love 2000, 2001 and 2002 equally. All those years are the one and the same era to me. The last three great years...

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: #Infinity on 02/27/16 at 10:38 pm

2001 was an absolutely fantastic year in gaming, probably the best ever.  The Nintendo 64 ended strong with Conker's Bad Fur Day and Pokémon Stadium 2, the Game Boy Color ended with Pokémon Crystal and Legend of Zelda Oracle of Ages & Seasons, and the Game Boy Advance, PlayStation 2, and Nintendo GameCube all had a bunch of excellent titles that year that brought my love of video games to a whole new level.  PC gaming also continued to succeed, thanks to two great expansion packs for The Sims.

Music in 2001 is not the absolute best, but it still brings back a lot of great memories and holds up well for me today.  Some of my favorite songs from that year include "Wish You Were Here," "Fallin'," "Never Had a Dream Come True," "Fat Lip," "Everywhere," "Always Come Back for Your Love," and "Short Skirt/Long Jacket."  Now 6 is also my favorite installment in the American Now That's What I Call Music! series, easily.

I still loved the fashion of 2001, which was mostly a continuation of 1999-2000.  There's something both empowering as well as emancipating about the bright, smooth styles that dominated the era, and I wish it was still more fashionable to wear crop tops, bob cuts, and sweat pants than side buzzes, tattoos, and thrift shop clothing.

2001 is also around the general vicinity of where I feel completely satisfied with technology.  I do like having the convenience of the Internet and cell phones, and I prefer DVD's over VHS (they weren't in their peak yet, but they were still definitely prevalent), but I like that the year wasn't bogged down in social media-oriented activities or anything else that kept you from doing something meaningfully productive.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 02/27/16 at 10:57 pm

2001:

Now this was when my memories became VERY Clear. I would go to pre school for much of the 2000-2001 school year, learning about the alphabet and such. I would play my Gameboy Color almost all the time I was in the car. For my 5th birthday in March of 2001, we had a huge party at my house and I remember getting a Playstation 1, which came with that month's issue of Playstation Underground, along with the Playstation Underground Demo Disc. The first game I got with it was Tarzan, it was a side scroller with 3d polygons. It basically taught me the basics of gaming, which I appreciate deeply. I remember that year I would get tons of more PS1 games like Scooby Doo and the Cyber Chase, Spiderman, Spiderman 2: Enter Electro, 101 Dalmatians Puppies to the Rescue, Crash 3, Spyro Year of the Dragon, Monster's Inc. Scream Team, Rugrats Search of Reptar, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 & 3, and Ape Escape among countless others. My gaming life also continued with playing N64 at my cousins house with games like Super Smash Bros, Mario Kart 64, Super Mario 64, Mario Party 2, Diddy Kong Racing, Banjo Kazooie, & Conker's Bad Fur Day (this was my older cousins lol). I remember being fully in dept with Pokemania this year when it came to the game on my gameboy color, the card game with friends at school and of course the show along with other shows like Static Shock, X-Men Evolution, & Jackie Chan Adventures on Kids WB, shows like Digimon (and well thats it) on Fox Kids, and shows like Doug, Recess, Teacher's Pet, Buzz Lightyear Star Command, & Llyod in Space on One Saturday Morning. I also went to Chucky Cheese for the first time for a friends birthday party in spring of that year and I remember playing in the ball pin. I remember my pre school graduation, and everybody being dressed up including me! I also remember having a family picture shoot right after. That summer was pretty epic as well, I went to Six Flags for the first time, I went back to summer camp again this year, I went Coney Island a few times, going to two family reunions one in upstate New York and the other in Georgia, watching WWF with my cousins during the tail end of the Attitude Era, learning how to ride a bike, going to Circus, going to a block party in Harlem, etc. I remember my older sisters and cousins being into JLO, Destiny's Child, NSYNC, Britney Spears, Christina Agulliera, & Aaliyah (especially around when she died) that year. Along with a lot of alternative and hip hop on the radio. I also remember my first day of kindergarten like it was yesterday and being very scared, but ended up having a blast and making new friends. My family got cable in our entire household in October and I remember that I started to watch Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, & Toon Disney regularly. I would also watch Disney channel if they were playing a DCOM or Lizzie McGuire (a guilty pleasure of mine). That christmas, I remember I got a bunch of new PS1 games and GBC games, along with toys like a Bop It, another Hess Truck along with countless others. All in all 2001 brings back many great memories! 8)

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/01/16 at 7:47 pm

I probably make a 2001 cultural debate in the near future after my 2003 one. WATCH OUT! :D ;)

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/01/16 at 7:58 pm

Well guys 2001 DESPITE the horrific tragedy at the WTC in September 11; 2001 was probably the best year in gaming history besides 2004. N64 was STILL Very popular with Pokemon Stadium 2 being released in the year,despite the PS2 and original XBOX making some noise later on the year with SSX Tricky, halo 1, Devil May Cry, Jak and Daxter, GTA 3 etc. Gameboy color's last year of dominace before GBA came later in the year which I got for my 6th birthday. I saw movies like Shrek 1, Dr. Doolittle 2, Monsters Inc, Atlantis the Lost Empire, Jurassic Park 3, Spy Kids, Mummy Returns etc. Also kids networks were at their peaks that year! Nick, CN, Fox Kids, OSM, PBS Kids, etc. TV shows like REBA, 24, Scurbs, My wife and kids, Bernie Mac Show, Smallville, Crossing Jordan, Lizzie McGuire. etc.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/01/16 at 8:14 pm


Well guys 2001 DESPITE the horrific tragedy at the WTC in September 11; 2001 was probably the best year in gaming history besides 2004. N64 was STILL Very popular with Pokemon Stadium 2 being released in the year,despite the PS2 and original XBOX making some noise later on the year with SSX Tricky, halo 1, Devil May Cry, Jak and Daxter, GTA 3 etc. Gameboy color's last year of dominace before GBA came later in the year which I got for my 6th birthday. I saw movies like Shrek 1, Dr. Doolittle 2, Monsters Inc, Atlantis the Lost Empire, Jurassic Park 3, Spy Kids, Mummy Returns etc. Also kids networks were at their peaks that year! Nick, CN, Fox Kids, OSM, PBS Kids, etc. TV shows like REBA, 24, Scurbs, My wife and kids, Bernie Mac Show, Smallville, Crossing Jordan, Lizzie McGuire. etc.


Pokémon Stadium 2 and Devil May Cry :D Some of my favourite games of all time.

There was also Mario Party 3, Super Smash Bros. Melee, Paper Mario, Luigi's Mansion, Sonic Adventure 2 and many others.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/01/16 at 8:21 pm


Pokémon Stadium 2 and Devil May Cry :D Some of my favourite games of all time.

There was also Mario Party 3, Super Smash Bros. Melee, Paper Mario, Luigi's Mansion, Sonic Adventure 2 and many others.

Aww yeah the Gamecube came out later in the year and was NOWHERE NEAR as popular or impactful as it's predecessor. :o  SEGA discontinued the Dreamcast and exited the console market! :\'(  :\'(

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/01/16 at 8:23 pm


Aww yeah the Gamecube came out later in the year and was NOWHERE NEAR as popular or impactful as it's predecessor. :o  SEGA discontinued the Dreamcast and exited the console market! :\'(  :\'(


Lol yeah. I actually bought my Gamecube in 2002 and there was a massive drought the in 2002/03 for it from what I remember. I was still playing my N64 those years.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/01/16 at 8:25 pm


These sports moments!
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Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/01/16 at 8:32 pm

Aww yeah the brief return of the GOAT! :D
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Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/01/16 at 9:34 pm


Aww yeah the brief return of the GOAT! :D
https://nbcprobasketballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/cd0ymzcznguwzdbhnduynddiytjhm2yyzthlmtjjotqwyyznptkymzmwntc1mtqyodhkotc4ntfiyjy5njczzdjky2i2.jpeg?w=610&h=343&crop=1


He wasn't that good with the Wizards.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: popguru85 on 03/01/16 at 10:49 pm

SNL had one of it's best Weekend Update teams ever with Jimmy Fallon and Tina Fey.
WWF presented Wrestlemania X7 and became the ONLY major Pro Wrestling Company in the USA.
Playstation 2 started catching on with Final Fantasy X, GTA 3, etc. XBox and Gamecube lauched with an impressive line up of games.
Movies had The Fast and Furious 1, Shrek, Oceans Eleven, American Pie 2, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. etc.
South Park had one of it's funniest seasons along with 24, Jackass, and Smallville debuting
Music saw Alicia Keys debut this year and have a huge song with "Fallin", The Gorillaz were pretty cool, "All For You" by Janet Jackson,

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/01/16 at 10:52 pm


I probably make a 2001 cultural debate in the near future after my 2003 one. WATCH OUT! :D ;)


Uhh... I don't think we need anymore cultural debate threads. We shouldn't clog up the forum with stuff like that.


He wasn't that good with the Wizards.


Callin' me a Bieber fan, ehh???

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/01/16 at 10:58 pm


Well guys 2001 DESPITE the horrific tragedy at the WTC in September 11; 2001 was probably the best year in gaming history besides 2004. N64 was STILL Very popular with Pokemon Stadium 2 being released in the year,despite the PS2 and original XBOX making some noise later on the year with SSX Tricky, halo 1, Devil May Cry, Jak and Daxter, GTA 3 etc. Gameboy color's last year of dominace before GBA came later in the year which I got for my 6th birthday. I saw movies like Shrek 1, Dr. Doolittle 2, Monsters Inc, Atlantis the Lost Empire, Jurassic Park 3, Spy Kids, Mummy Returns etc. Also kids networks were at their peaks that year! Nick, CN, Fox Kids, OSM, PBS Kids, etc. TV shows like REBA, 24, Scurbs, My wife and kids, Bernie Mac Show, Smallville, Crossing Jordan, Lizzie McGuire. etc.


In short if you were a kid/teen in 2001 then you had a good time.  8) I liked Gaming, Fashion, Music, Comics, Movies, Cartoons, Sitcoms, Commercials, and everything effected by the extreme sports popularity at the time (which was everything I just mentioned. From the Cartoons to the Video Games).

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/01/16 at 11:01 pm


In short if you were a kid/teen in 2001 then you had a good time.  8)


As someone who was 17-20 during this era, I gotta say, being that age during 2000, 2001 and 2002 was ultra rad! 8)

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/01/16 at 11:05 pm


2001 is also around the general vicinity of where I feel completely satisfied with technology.  I do like having the convenience of the Internet and cell phones, and I prefer DVD's over VHS (they weren't in their peak yet, but they were still definitely prevalent), but I like that the year wasn't bogged down in social media-oriented activities or anything else that kept you from doing something meaningfully productive.


This is something I also liked about 2001. There was advancing tech (there will always be advancing tech), but people still weren't as obsessed with it as they are today. A nice balance. And all the entertaining pop cultural was pretty good in 2001.


Uhh... I don't think we need anymore cultural debate threads. We shouldn't clog up the forum with stuff like that.


Yeah, no more debate threads for a while. I'm afraid of the cycle that won't reach an end.

Person 1: The culture of this year was like this
Person 2: Actually the year was like this because of
Person 3: It's all based on how one experienced the year



Even when taking into consideration that how a person sees a year is mainly based on their experience it still won't stop the endless debates.  And then sometime down the thread the topic gets derailed. I will admit that I'm guilty of taking part in the derailing at times.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/01/16 at 11:15 pm


As someone who was 17-20 during this era, I gotta say, being that age during 2000, 2001 and 2002 was ultra rad! 8)

Ultra rad?!  ???
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Don't you mean XTREME!?  8)

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/01/16 at 11:19 pm


Yeah, no more debate threads for a while. I'm afraid of the cycle that won't reach an end.

Person 1: The culture of this year was like this
Person 2: Actually the year was like this because of
Person 3: It's all based on how one experienced the year



Even when taking into consideration that how a person sees a year is mainly based on their experience it still won't stop the endless debates.  And then sometime down the thread the topic gets derailed. I will admit that I'm guilty of taking part in the derailing at times.


Yeah, it goes around in circles. People are gonna view the same things different ways no matter what. Everyone has already debated the same years a thousand times and said the exact same things each time; having another XXXX Cultural Debate is redundant and unnecessary.


Ultra rad?!  ???
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Don't you mean XTREME!?  8)


You're right! 2000, 2001 and 2002 are XTREME!

Speaking of which, have you visited the 2000's music videos thread? I've posted a ton of 2000-2002 videos which I'd say are pretty XTREME! You might like to check 'em out!

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/01/16 at 11:21 pm

And then sometime down the thread the topic gets derailed.


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Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/01/16 at 11:26 pm

Derailing threads is the best. It's always something stupid like how Mr. Canada up there doesn't like colored Ketchup.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/01/16 at 11:30 pm


You're right! 2000, 2001 and 2002 are XTREME!

Yep!  8) Speaking directly on 2001 I remember seeing tons of kids on skateboards, scooters, and bikes. 2001 was the very first time I tried riding a skateboard. Ended up with me scrapping my elbow.  :( I was riding down a hill and reached Xtreme! (okay maybe not extreme levels, but I was going pretty fast) levels of speed to the point where the only way I'd stop myself was to jump off the board. So I did. I landed on the sidewalk and due to the momentum that still was on me I ended up sliding across it which scrapped my elbow. The kicker is that the rush of it all got me hyped to go skateboarding again (but this time I remember to wear elbow pads  8) )

Elbow pads. Best thing since sliced....errr.... ham or however that saying goes.

Speaking of which, have you visited the 2000's music videos thread? I've posted a ton of 2000-2002 videos which I'd say are pretty XTREME! You might like to check 'em out!


I've seen it, but I haven't had the time to listen to all the songs yet. I'll get around to it later on.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/01/16 at 11:38 pm


Yep!  8) Speaking directly on 2001 I remember seeing tons of kids on skateboards, scooters, and bikes. 2001 was the very first time I tried riding a skateboard. Ended up with me scrapping my elbow.  :( I was riding down a hill and reached Xtreme! (okay maybe not extreme levels, but I was going pretty fast) levels of speed to the point where the only way I'd stop myself was to jump off the board. So I did. I landed on the sidewalk and due to the momentum that still was on me I ended up sliding across it which scrapped my elbow. The kicker is that the rush of it all got me hyped to go skateboarding again (but this time I remember to wear elbow pads  8) )


This reminds me of a similar incident. It was in 1998 (2000-2002 is basically just 1998 beginning with a 200X, anyway right, eh!?) and I came early in the morning before school had started. I was with my buddy and we had our skateboards with us. He brought his stereo, I had my Lagwagon Hoss tape and I did what any sensible person would do. I put it in and turned it up really loud so all the girls would hear. I waited until I saw some of the popular chicks come by to show off my rad skills. When they finally came, I made sure to look like I was already busy by doing a bunch of tricks. Perfect plan, right? Wrong. I ended up falling and hitting myself in the nuts. All the girls saw this and laughed at me. Their jock boyfriends yelled out "F*G!" or "LOSER!" or whatever. I was never really bothered by that kind of thing; it was the girls laughing at me that sucked. I got over it a minute later but it's still a funny story to tell. Best thing since sliced ham indeed.


I've seen it, but I haven't had the time to listen to all the songs yet. I'll get around to it later on.


Lemme know what you think. SlowpokeMc2001 doesn't think it represents the "VIBBBESS" but I think they're perfect videos.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/01/16 at 11:41 pm


Derailing threads is the best. It's always something stupid like how Mr. Canada up there doesn't like colored Ketchup.


2001 had green ketchup so it will always be a mini-dark age. I find ketchup in general to be nasty, but seeing my brothers dump fried chicken in green and purple ketchup was a special kind of gross.  8-P

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/01/16 at 11:44 pm


2001 had green ketchup so it will always be a mini-dark age. I find ketchup in general to be nasty, but seeing my brothers dump fried chicken in green and purple ketchup was a special kind of gross.  8-P


2001!?!? A mini dark-age!?!? No, I'm sorry I cannot listen to this. The early 00's are before the dark-age (2003-present). See? Special kinda gross. What's so special about 2005 (your favorite year)? Nothing. 2005 was a black hole of no fun.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Howard on 03/02/16 at 3:05 pm


These sports moments!
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I remember those.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/02/16 at 3:33 pm


Callin' me a Bieber fan, ehh???


Didn't you say you liked Bieber, as of this post?


Here is a photo of the nice gentleman little turd after receiving his award:

http://photos.laineygossip.com/articles/justin-bieber-brits-25feb16-04.jpg




Edited by snoz

Jordan like you I am not a fan of the Beibs nor the antics he's pulled over the last few years however some people here are fans and found this post offensive. It's been edited.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/02/16 at 3:37 pm


Didn't you say you liked Bieber, as of this post?


"Edited by Snoz" dude

I originally put a photo of a cartoon turd and called it "Justin Bieber receiving his award" but some people found it offensive and complained about it so Snoz edited it to a photo of him actually receiving the award. Even with the edit, I don't see anything in that post that says I'm a fan

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/02/16 at 4:28 pm

These too crazy moments, almost 15 YEARS Later!
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Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/02/16 at 4:30 pm


"Edited by Snoz" dude

I originally put a photo of a cartoon turd and called it "Justin Bieber receiving his award" but some people found it offensive and complained about it so Snoz edited it to a photo of him actually receiving the award. Even with the edit, I don't see anything in that post that says I'm a fan


Oh.  :(

Good thing I've changed my signature before this post was made.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Howard on 03/02/16 at 4:31 pm


These too crazy moments, almost 15 YEARS Later!
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Would you believe it's been 15 years?  :o

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/02/16 at 4:32 pm


Some sick kid stuff!!!pDfnSeOP4-wiYOCpIsUFwc

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/02/16 at 4:32 pm


Oh.  :(

Good thing I've changed my signature before this post was made.


No worries, dude. :P

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/02/16 at 4:35 pm


Some sick kid stuff!!!pDfnSeOP4-wiYOCpIsUFwc


It kinda reminds me of the late 90s. But whatever, at least CN was okay in the mid 2000s.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/02/16 at 4:37 pm


Would you believe it's been 15 years?  :o

I'm STILL in shock! :o :D  I still recall WCW ending it's run like it was last week!
It goes to show you that time really does pass by. Cause when I was growing up when I thought 15 years ago, I thought of the Rock n Wrestling with Hogan and Savage, early WCW with Flair and the horsemen, NOT The Attitude era with Rock and Austin, and WCW/ECW near the end. :o ;D

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/02/16 at 4:38 pm

I like how in 2001 the Warped Tour was actually good and good Pop Punk albums like All Killer No Filler, Take Off Your Pants and Jacket, World According to Gob, Four Letter Words and End is Forever came out. The PS1 and PS2 co-existed nicely and rad games kept comin' out through the whole year. I bought Tony Hawk Pro-Skater 2 on both the PS1 and PS2 because you had to be loyal to the PlayStation. If you weren't, well, Bubba don't like that sh!t. Movies then were also pretty sick like American Pie 2, Yet Another Teen Movie and Zoolander to name some. If you really take a good look at 2000, 2001 and 2002 you shall see the spirit of 1998 is strong within. I thought the good times were never gonna end (boy, was I wrong). To sum it up, 2001 was actually a good year unlike anything 2004 onward.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/02/16 at 4:38 pm


It kinda reminds me of the late 90s. But whatever, at least CN was okay in the mid 2000s.

CN was actually pretty good in 2004 and the first half of 2005 and was ''okay'' in the latter part of 2005.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/02/16 at 4:42 pm

When I think of 2001 I think of these songs!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/02/16 at 4:50 pm


Good ol Hip Hop and R&B music from the year.
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Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 03/02/16 at 6:30 pm


CN was actually pretty good in 2004 and the first half of 2005 and was ''okay'' in the latter part of 2005.


Yeah for CN it goes like this:

1992-Early 1995: OK

Mid 1995-Mid 1997: Pretty Good

Late 1997-Mid 2004: Great

Late 2004-Mid 2005: Pretty Good

Late 2005-Early 2006: OK

Mid 2006-Early 2010: BAD

Mid 2010-Early 2014: OK

Mid 2014-Present: Pretty Good

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/02/16 at 6:39 pm

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Good times. Good times.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/02/16 at 6:39 pm


Yeah for CN it goes like this:

1992-Early 1995: OK

Mid 1995-Mid 1997: Pretty Good

Late 1997-Mid 2004: Great

Late 2004-Mid 2005: Pretty Good

Late 2005-Early 2006: OK

Mid 2006-Early 2010: BAD

Mid 2010-Early 2014: OK

Mid 2014-Present: Pretty Good


To be honest, Cartoon Network wasn't really my favorite kid's channel in my childhood. Sure, there was Boomerang, but I'll rather watch Nickelodeon or Disney Channel back then.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/02/16 at 6:41 pm


Yeah for CN it goes like this:

1992-Early 1995: OK

Mid 1995-Mid 1997: Pretty Good

Late 1997-Mid 2004: Great

Late 2004-Mid 2005: Pretty Good

Late 2005-Early 2006: OK

Mid 2006-Early 2010: BAD

Mid 2010-Early 2014: OK

Mid 2014-Present: Pretty Good


That's how I see it. And of course my favorite times of CN was from the mid '90s - mid '00s. '10s is good so far, though.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: bchris02 on 03/02/16 at 6:48 pm

2001 was a rough year for me.  I was in 9th grade during the 2000-01 school year.  My sig other at the time dumped me the Friday before Christmas break 2000, which set the tone for the first part of 2001 for me.  Returning to school after Christmas, I went through a phase of extreme bullying and rejection.  During that time, I turned to hip-hop music, which was really starting to get good around that time.  Spring 2001 marked an improvement for me, but I had another crush in the Summer of 2001 who I couldn't be with, and that ruined my summer. I would say the Summer of 2001 was the worst summer of my life during my K-12 years.  Fall 2001 was much better though, until my parents made me stop hanging out with my only friend because he was gay.  The year ended with my dad deciding to unleash his anger on me for no reason at all.  So yeah, 2001 wasn't a great year for me.

I loved the music though.  It was the one thing that gave me comfort that year.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/02/16 at 8:25 pm


Yeah for CN it goes like this:

1992-Early 1995: OK

Mid 1995-Mid 1997: Pretty Good

Late 1997-Mid 2004: Great

Late 2004-Mid 2005: Pretty Good

Late 2005-Early 2006: OK

Mid 2006-Early 2010: BAD

Mid 2010-Early 2014: OK

Mid 2014-Present: Pretty Good


1992-1997: Early Age
Quintessential Year: 1995

1997-2004: Golden Age
Quintessential Year: 2001

2004-2007: Silver/Bronze Age
Quintessential Year: 2005-06 school year

2007-2010: Dark Age
Quintessential Year: 2009

2010-present: Renaissance Age
Quintessential Year: 2013 (so far)


and for me, 2002 da da best year, 2003 da da peak year, two different terms.


Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/02/16 at 8:30 pm


Good ol Hip Hop and R&B music from the year.
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the EARLY 2000's SHOWER theme song debuted this year.

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Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 03/02/16 at 9:43 pm


I'm STILL in shock! :o :D  I still recall WCW ending it's run like it was last week!
It goes to show you that time really does pass by. Cause when I was growing up when I thought 15 years ago, I thought of the Rock n Wrestling with Hogan and Savage, early WCW with Flair and the horsemen, NOT The Attitude era with Rock and Austin, and WCW/ECW near the end. :o ;D


Early 2001 was an awesome time for wrestling. You still had the last vestiges of the Monday Night Wars (though RAW was clearly destroying Nitro by that point), and lead-up to WrestleMania 17 was incredible with Austin, Rock, Triple H, Kurt Angle, Undertaker, etc. all in their primes. WrestleMania 17 itself is probably the greatest wrestling PPV of all time. Sadly things started going downhill after Austin turned heel, and they only got worse with the botched "Invasion" angle.

And yes it is really weird how time passes. With 2001 being 15 years ago, the last months of the Attitude Era are as old today as the days of Bruno Sammartino and the old WWWF were when I first started watching wrestling in 1993. :o

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Howard on 03/03/16 at 3:12 pm


I'm STILL in shock! :o :D  I still recall WCW ending it's run like it was last week!
It goes to show you that time really does pass by. Cause when I was growing up when I thought 15 years ago, I thought of the Rock n Wrestling with Hogan and Savage, early WCW with Flair and the horsemen, NOT The Attitude era with Rock and Austin, and WCW/ECW near the end. :o ;D


I kind of wish WCW would still be around.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Howard on 03/03/16 at 3:14 pm


Early 2001 was an awesome time for wrestling. You still had the last vestiges of the Monday Night Wars (though RAW was clearly destroying Nitro by that point), and lead-up to WrestleMania 17 was incredible with Austin, Rock, Triple H, Kurt Angle, Undertaker, etc. all in their primes. WrestleMania 17 itself is probably the greatest wrestling PPV of all time. Sadly things started going downhill after Austin turned heel, and they only got worse with the botched "Invasion" angle.

And yes it is really weird how time passes. With 2001 being 15 years ago, the last months of the Attitude Era are as old today as the days of Bruno Sammartino and the old WWWF were when I first started watching wrestling in 1993. :o


You think WCW would've survived if it hadn't been bought? ???

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/03/16 at 9:33 pm

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Love the sound of 2001 music.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 03/04/16 at 9:25 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtSDWq6HsJE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWJrPzAUzAs

These two songs in particular make me nostalgic for the Spring of 2001. Man, sometimes I really miss being a teenager. :(

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 80sfan on 03/04/16 at 9:55 pm

http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2001_Britney_Spears_Live_from_Las_Vegas/2001_Britney_Spears_Las_012.jpg

I became a Britney Spears fan late in 2001. 

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: batfan2005 on 03/05/16 at 8:22 am

2001 was a downhill year compared to 2000. It just wasn't as fun as 2000 or 1999. All I can remember with music is Missy Elliott, Eve, Mary J. Blidge, Ja Rule, and DMX. There were a few good movies, like Scary Movie 2, Rush Hour 2, A.I., and the first Harry Potter.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/05/16 at 8:43 am


2001 was a downhill year compared to 2000. It just wasn't as fun as 2000 or 1999. All I can remember with music is Missy Elliott, Eve, Mary J. Blidge, Ja Rule, and DMX. There were a few good movies, like Scary Movie 2, Rush Hour 2, A.I., and the first Harry Potter.


Are you kidding me? 2001 was a whole lot better for movies than 2000, I think 2001 was one of the greatest years for movies ever in our history, not just the 2000's decade, but overall. It gave birth to franchises like Harry Potter, The Fast & the Furious, The Lord of the Rings, and Shrek. In fact, I think 2000 was one of the blandest years for movies of the decade along with 2006, 2000 just had a lot of late 90's holdovers and was a watered down version of 1998 & 1999 for movies. 

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/05/16 at 9:32 am

2000 had better video games (and cartoons ;D). I agree that 2001 had better movies though.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/05/16 at 9:35 am


2000 had better video games (and cartoons ;D). I agree that 2001 had better movies though.


I'm not 100% sure about 2000 and 2001 video games, but 2001 definitely had better cartoons though! Maybe it had something to do with your country too. A year that gave us Justice League, Samurai Jack, Invader Zim, House of Mouse, and the Proud Family. I don't know if that year could be topped to be honest with you.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/05/16 at 9:39 am


2000 had better video games (and cartoons ;D). I agree that 2001 had better movies though.


2001 was better pop-culture wise. It didn't felt like an extension to 1999, but instead created the decade's pop culture.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/05/16 at 9:41 am


2000 had better video games (and cartoons ;D). I agree that 2001 had better movies though.


Actually SLOWPOKE! When I think about it, 2001 had better video games too, because it had Grand Theft Auto III (the first real GTA in the series), Super Smash Bros. Melee, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3, Final Fantasy X, Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec, Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex, and SSX Tricky. Some of those games I listed were the best of all time too.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/05/16 at 9:43 am


2001 was better pop-culture wise. It didn't felt like an extension to 1999, but instead created the decade's pop culture.


2001 was the transition from late 90's to early 2000's culture. The year as a whole was a even balance of late 90's pop cultural fads/trends and early 2000's pop cultural fads/trends. 2000 was still mostly late 90's, while 2002 was completely early 2000's.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/05/16 at 9:45 am


2001 was the transition from late 90's to early 2000's culture. The year as a whole was a even balance of late 90's pop cultural fads/trends and early 2000's pop cultural fads/trends. 2000 was still mostly late 90's, while 2002 was completely early 2000's.


Well yeah, but the movies/video games released in 2001 were lead into 2002's reputation, as a complete early 2000s year.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/05/16 at 9:53 am


I'm not 100% sure about 2000 and 2001 video games, but 2001 definitely had better cartoons though! Maybe it had something to do with your country too. A year that gave us Justice League, Samurai Jack, Invader Zim, House of Mouse, and the Proud Family. I don't know if that year could be topped to be honest with you.


That's kind of what I don't like. A lot of those shows (except House of Mouse) replaced better shows like Recess, Batman Beyond, Sailor Moon and few other Canada-only ones like Billy The Cat, Freaky Stories, ReBoot etc.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/05/16 at 9:58 am


That's kind of what I don't like. A lot of those shows (except House of Mouse) replaced better shows like Recess, Batman Beyond, Sailor Moon and few other Canada-only ones like Billy The Cat, Freaky Stories, ReBoot etc.


Replacing shows has nothing to do with when the show came out. Batman Beyond was from 1999 while Recess was from 1997. Compare the shows that I listed that came out in 2001 compared to 2000 and you'll see my point. Justice League was clearly better than Batman Beyond. Batman Beyond while I caught reruns on CN in 2002, it was so dark for my young head then, but I rewatched the whole series on Netflix in 2014 and I understood it so much better and realized how great it was. Overall, I still think Justice League was a lot better though. I find nothing special about Sailor Moon, I never grew up with the show and it doesn't looking appealing to me. I'm not so sure on the Canadian shows though.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/05/16 at 10:04 am


2001 was better pop-culture wise. It didn't felt like an extension to 1999, but instead created the decade's pop culture.


Except 1999 was the GOAT year so I ain't complaining. If I were to be transported to any year of my childhood it would be 1999 or 2000 (or early 2001).  :D 2002/2003 nostalgia is only a recent thing for me.


Actually SLOWPOKE! When I think about it, 2001 had better video games too, because it had Grand Theft Auto III (the first real GTA in the series), Super Smash Bros. Melee, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3, Final Fantasy X, Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec, Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex, and SSX Tricky. Some of those games I listed were the best of all time too.


Naw, 2000 had Mario Party 2, Pokémon Gold Banjo-Tooie, Majora's Mask, Spiderman, Pokémon Stadium, Kirby 64 among a billion other games I couldn't put down. For games I didn't get to play you had Perfect Dark, Shenmue, Chrono Cross, Final Fantasy IX (better than X), The Sims, Skies of Arcadia, Resident Evil: Code Veronica.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/05/16 at 10:07 am


Naw, 2000 had Mario Party 2, Pokémon Gold Banjo-Tooie, Majora's Mask, Spiderman, Pokémon Stadium, Kirby 64 among a billion other games I couldn't put down. For games I didn't get to play you had Perfect Dark, Shenmue, Chrono Cross, Final Fantasy IX (better than X), The Sims, Skies of Arcadia, Resident Evil: Code Veronica.


2001 had the highest quality ones IMO.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/05/16 at 10:09 am


Except 1999 was the GOAT year so I ain't complaining. If I were to be transported to any year of my childhood it would be 1999 or 2000 (or early 2001).  :D 2002/2003 nostalgia is only a recent thing for me.


Funny how I feel the same way about 2002-2005 and 2006/2007 is more recent to me.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/05/16 at 10:14 am


2001 had the highest quality ones IMO.


2001 doesn't have as many good local multiplayer games man. That's the stuff I lived for and still do. (my favourite game of the 2010s is Just Dance 4)  ;D

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/05/16 at 12:13 pm


2001 doesn't have as many good local multiplayer games man. That's the stuff I lived for and still do. (my favourite game of the 2010s is Just Dance 4)  ;D


Super Smash Bros. Melee makes it seem like a lot!

Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec had a good multiplayer experience too!

I'll admit that Mario Kart Super Circuit sucked though.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/05/16 at 1:41 pm


I'm not 100% sure about 2000 and 2001 video games, but 2001 definitely had better cartoons though! Maybe it had something to do with your country too. A year that gave us Justice League, Samurai Jack, Invader Zim, House of Mouse, and the Proud Family. I don't know if that year could be topped to be honest with you.

2001 was arguably the best year for kid culture of the decade!

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/05/16 at 1:42 pm


2001 was the transition from late 90's to early 2000's culture. The year as a whole was a even balance of late 90's pop cultural fads/trends and early 2000's pop cultural fads/trends. 2000 was still mostly late 90's, while 2002 was completely early 2000's.

Yeah 2001 was the last year of the VERY early 2000s. 2002 was solid early 00s.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/05/16 at 1:55 pm


Yeah 2001 was the last year of the VERY early 2000s. 2002 was solid early 00s.


Early-mid 2001 felt very 90s. Around 9/11, it started to feel like the post-9/11 early '00s.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/05/16 at 2:15 pm


Early-mid 2001 felt very 90s. Around 9/11, it started to feel like the post-9/11 early '00s.


It didn't feel very 90's at all. Like the late 90's but not that much like the mid 90's.


2001 was better pop-culture wise. It didn't felt like an extension to 1999, but instead created the decade's pop culture.


'Cept 2001 wasn't the start of the real 2000's. 2003 created the decade's culture.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/05/16 at 2:32 pm


It didn't feel very 90's at all. Like the late 90's but not that much like the mid 90's.


I'm saying it felt very 90s as in late 90s.


'Cept 2001 wasn't the start of the real 2000's. 2003 created the decade's culture.


I thought you said 2000-2002 was before the real 2000s.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/05/16 at 2:34 pm


I'm saying it felt very 90s as in late 90s.

I thought you said 2000-2002 was before the real 2000s.


Oh, then I agree but all of 2000-2002 felt like the late 90's to me.

I did. Re-read the post:


'Cept 2001 wasn't the start of the real 2000's. 2003 created the decade's culture.


Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/05/16 at 2:38 pm


I did.


Oh. I just said that 2001 was like the start of the '00s pop culture, was because several franchises already started during that year (e.g. Shrek, Fast and Furious, etc).

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/05/16 at 2:39 pm


Oh. I just said that 2001 was like the start of the '00s pop culture, was because several franchises already started during that year (e.g. Shrek, Fast and Furious, etc).


Oh, ok. I think 2003 is the true beginning of 2000's Pop Culture.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Howard on 03/05/16 at 3:32 pm


2000 had better video games (and cartoons ;D). I agree that 2001 had better movies though.


Well, in a way you're right WWE came out with the Smackdown vs.Raw series of video games in the 2000's.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/05/16 at 5:14 pm


Super Smash Bros. Melee makes it seem like a lot!

Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec had a good multiplayer experience too!

I'll admit that Mario Kart Super Circuit sucked though.


I bought Melee in March 2002 ;D

Gran Turismo 3 and really anything on PS1/PS2 aren't good multiplayer games because they're only two players.  :(

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/05/16 at 5:19 pm


I bought Melee in March 2002 ;D

Gran Turismo 3 and really anything on PS1/PS2 aren't good multiplayer games because they're only two players.  :(


You could have bought Tomb Raider Chronicles, and Pokemon Stadium 1 or 2 in 2001 as well  ;D

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/05/16 at 5:38 pm


You could have bought Tomb Raider Chronicles, and Pokemon Stadium 1 or 2 in 2001 as well  ;D


Pokémon Stadium 2 was my s***.  :D I spent hours at the Academy learning every Pokémon from A to Z.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/06/16 at 12:38 am


Well, in a way you're right WWE came out with the Smackdown vs.Raw series of video games in the 2000's.

The Smackdown games were MUCH better than the smackdown vs raw games of 2004-2011. Here comes the Pain and Shut your mouth pwned all the smackdwon vs RAW games.Although Smackdown vs RAW 2006 was the best in the series, WWF No mercy from 2000 is still THE best wrestling game of all time.  :D

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Howard on 03/06/16 at 3:20 pm


The Smackdown games were MUCH better than the smackdown vs raw games of 2004-2011. Here comes the Pain and Shut your mouth pwned all the smackdwon vs RAW games.Although Smackdown vs RAW 2006 was the best in the series, WWF No mercy from 2000 is still THE best wrestling game of all time.  :D


I liked the series from 2006 and beyond cause THQ made the video game more realistic as the years went by. What I like about those games is that I can make the game like I see on RAW and Smackdown and have the matches play out like I see them on television. I also enjoy putting the wrestlers in their proper brand so the show in the game can play out like I see on tv but it doesn't play out like I think sometimes. Let's say for instance you have Brock Lesnar vs. Dean Ambrose feuding on the show and both are faces and in the game Dean Ambrose beats Brock Lesnar and I'm saying OK, that'll never happen!  :o ::)

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 03/06/16 at 8:47 pm


Actually SLOWPOKE! When I think about it, 2001 had better video games too, because it had Grand Theft Auto III (the first real GTA in the series), Super Smash Bros. Melee, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3, Final Fantasy X, Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec, Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex, and SSX Tricky. Some of those games I listed were the best of all time too.


2000 and 2001 were both great years for video games, but I also lean towards 2001. In fact, as I've said before, 2001 might just be the greatest year in gaming history. GTA III, SSB: Melee, Tony Hawk 3, MGS 2, FFX and GT 3 are actually six of my all-time favorite games, and the fact that they all came out just a few months apart from each other is really amazing if you think about it.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/06/16 at 9:46 pm


2000 and 2001 were both great years for video games, but I also lean towards 2001. In fact, as I've said before, 2001 might just be the greatest year in gaming history. GTA III, SSB: Melee, Tony Hawk 3, MGS 2, FFX and GT 3 are actually six of my all-time favorite games, and the fact that they all came out just a few months apart from each other is really amazing if you think about it.


List of 2001 games.
Final Fantasy X
Halo Combat Evolved
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Luigi's Mansion
Super Smash Bros Melee
Sonic Adventure 2
Grand Theft Auto 3
Mario Kart Super Circuit
Jak and Daxter
Devil May Cry
Capcom vs SNK 2
Klonoa 2 Lunatea's Veil
Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec
Wario Land 4
Sonic Advance
Ico
Dead or Alive 3
Advance Wars
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
Tony Hawk Proskater 3
Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
Max Payne
Silent Hill 2
Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal
Maximo: Ghosts to Glory
Pikmin
Animal Crossing
Wave Race: Blue Storm
Super Monkey Ball
Project Gotham Racing
Golden Sun
Super Mario Advance


This is a (uncomplete as I only put down games that I remember from the top of my head) list of popular and obscure games from 2001 for. Nearly all of these have been well received by critics. I also think 2001 was one of the greatest years in gaming and it was a great year that helped start the 6th gen on a good note. That usually isn't common as the first year of a gen tends to be disappoint to people due to their not being that many (good) games out yet. 8th gen is an example.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/06/16 at 9:47 pm

Y'see, 6th gen is the start of the decline, so that's not a good thing. :P

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/06/16 at 9:48 pm


Y'see, 6th gen is the start of the decline, so that's not a good thing. :P


Nah, mate. I'm not seeing a decline in 2001.  8)

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/06/16 at 9:50 pm


Nah, mate. I'm not seeing a decline in 2001.  8)


GTA and Halo 1 would kick off dudebro gaming later.  >:(

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Zelek2 on 03/06/16 at 9:55 pm

2001 was NOT the decline in the slightest. 2006 was the true decline for gaming.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/06/16 at 9:57 pm


2001 was NOT the decline in the slightest. 2006 was the true decline for gaming.


Gaming was dead for a while by 2006, hence why it was revived in late 2006 with 7th gen consoles. ;) ;D

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/06/16 at 9:59 pm


GTA and Halo 1 would kick off dudebro gaming later.  >:(


I don't think that would cause a decline. Besides if you don't like dudebro games then just get the Gamecube or PS2. Gameube with it's "kiddy" colorful games. And PS2 with its insane variety in games. Only the Xbox can be seen as dudebro. But Xbox was never seen as a bad console. The Xbox was seen as an innovative console and not many people complain about the lineup. Even consider games like Halo to be one of the best games ever made. 6th gen overall had tons of praise since there was no console that everyone saw as "bad". Also according to wikipedia dudebro shooters have had a rise in popularity long before 2001. Says that the rise in popularity starts in 1992-1995 with games like Wolfenstein and Doom. And later on with games like Quake, Golden Eye, Duke Nukem, Half Life, and Counter Strike.

But hey to each his own, right?  8)

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/06/16 at 10:04 pm


I don't think that would cause a decline. Besides if you don't like dudebro games then just get the Gamecube or PS2. Gameube with it's "kiddy" colorful games. And PS2 with its insane variety in games. Only the Xbox can be seen as dudebro. But Xbox was never seen as a bad console. The Xbox was seen as an innovative console and not many people complain about the lineup. Even consider games like Halo to be one of the best games ever made. 6th gen overall had tons of praise since there was no console that everyone saw as "bad". Also according to wikipedia dudebro shooters have had a rise in popularity long before 2001. Says that the rise in popularity starts in 1992-1995 with games like Wolfenstein and Doom. And later on with games like Quake, Golden Eye, Duke Nukem, Half Life, and Counter Strike.

But hey to each his own, right?  8)


The Gamecube was terrible and had massive droughts. It's only good in retrospect when you don't have to wait for new games to come out.  ;D

PS2 had a billion GTA clones on it, I remember that. I didn't enjoy going to the video game store anymore 2004/2005, nothing looked remotely interesting.  :( I thought i was getting old.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/06/16 at 10:09 pm


The Gamecube was terrible and had massive droughts. It's only good in retrospect when you don't have to wait for new games to come out.  ;D

PS2 had a billion GTA clones on it, I remember that. I didn't enjoy going to the video game store anymore 2004/2005, nothing looked remotely interesting.  :( I thought i was getting old.


EVERY Nintendo console had droughts. And they all look good in retrospect due to not having to wait for any games. Actually this can be said for nearly all consoles. N64 had droughts. Heck people say how the PS1 stole most of the N64's 3rd party support yet people still call it a good console. Same thing for the Gamecube (literally its the same situation of lacking 3rd party as the PS2/XBox was taking them all away). As for PS2 having tons of GTA clones I don't remember that. Every game has its share of clones, but I don't remember there being a TON of them. 

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/06/16 at 10:15 pm


EVERY Nintendo console had droughts. And they all look good in retrospect due to not having to wait for any games. Actually this can be said for nearly all consoles. N64 had droughts. Heck people say how the PS1 stole most of the N64's 3rd party support yet people still call it a good console. Same thing for the Gamecube (literally its the same situation of lacking 3rd party as the PS2/XBox was taking them all away). As for PS2 having tons of GTA clones I don't remember that. Every game has its share of clones, but I don't remember there being a TON of them.


Dude, there were many. True Crime, Mafia, Fallout, Far Cry, Driver, Just Cause etc. etc.

I bought my N64 in 1998, by then the droughts were a distant memory. I know that in 1996 and much of 1997 though there were large droughts for the N64 though, but for Gamecube the droughts were a fact of life. Even 2005 for Gamecube had droughts.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/06/16 at 10:18 pm


Y'see, 6th gen is the start of the decline, so that's not a good thing. :P


What am I reading here? I don't understand this absurd piece of writing. Must be a foreign language.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/06/16 at 10:24 pm


What am I reading here? I don't understand this absurd piece of writing. Must be a foreign language.


All critics agree with me. 1990-2000 was the golden age of gaming. I decided to be charitable and make it 1991-2001, but now I'm having second thoughts :P No golden age of gaming would have GTA 3 or Xbox in it.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/06/16 at 10:29 pm


All critics agree with me. 1990-2000 was the golden age of gaming. I decided to be charitable and make it 1991-2001, but now I'm having second thoughts :P No golden age of gaming would have GTA 3 or Xbox in it.


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You mean 1990-2002! GTA 3 and the Xbox totally kicked ass! It's no PS2 (the mighty golden system) but it was still super rad! I dunno how you can say things like this. Are you aware Pro Skater 3 and 4 came out in 2001 and 2002? Time and time again you'll say something inappropriate and totally out of the factual realm and I try to real you in by spitting the facts but it's to no avail... Things like this will only keep you further and further away from the frosted tips and chain wallets.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/06/16 at 10:29 pm


Dude, there were many. True Crime, Mafia, Fallout, Far Cry, Driver, Just Cause etc. etc.

I bought my N64 in 1998, by then the droughts were a distant memory. I know that in 1996 and much of 1997 though there were large droughts for the N64 though, but for Gamecube the droughts were a fact of life. Even 2005 for Gamecube had droughts.

Fallout isn't  GTA Clone (according to most people). Neither is Driver 2 (all you do is mainly drive around) or Far Cry (don't have the same gameplay setup as it's virtually just a FPS that is open world and it doesn't fit into the same genre as GTA aside from the fact that its a shooter which has been popular well before GTA/Halo). Now Driver 3 can be seen as a GTA clone. Same for True Crime and maybe Mafia.

As for the N64 vs GC I'm not sure if I'd call its droughts a fact of life. The N64 had a total of 388 games released. The GC had 662 games. Now compared to the PS2 that is a drought. But compared to the N64 the GC had less droughts.


I say once again. To each his own 8)  If you don't like the games that were popular its fine. But from what I remember there a ton of other games to enjoy. By the end of the 6th gen only 5 out of my 54 game collection (at the time) were shooters. Every other game were a fighter, racer, RPG, platformer, or Action Adventure.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/06/16 at 10:36 pm


Dude, there were many. True Crime, Mafia, Fallout, Far Cry, Driver, Just Cause etc. etc.


True Crime - Came out in 2003

Fallout? That's a role playing PC game from 1997... ???

Far Cry - Came out in 2004

Mafia - 2002 (This game is good, though)

Driver - Came out in 1999 for the PS1! This came first.

Just Cause - Came out in 2006

Decline for gaming = 2003-2004 :P

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/06/16 at 10:38 pm


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You mean 1990-2002! GTA 3 and the Xbox totally kicked ass! It's no PS2 (the mighty golden system) but it was still super rad! I dunno how you can say things like this. Are you aware Pro Skater 3 and 4 came out in 2001 and 2002? Time and time again you'll say something inappropriate and totally out of the factual realm and I try to real you in by spitting the facts but it's to no avail... Things like this will only keep you further and further away from the frosted tips and chain wallets.


Naw, it's gotta be 1990-2001. 2002 had GTA: Vice City and Mario Party 4 and other such garbage :P Super Mario Sunshine was also not as good as the first. The transition out of the golden age can be 2001, because it had Final Fantasy X and that game was HOT garbage.  ;D But it also had Devil May Cry and SSB:M which kind of redeems it.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/06/16 at 10:43 pm


Naw, it's gotta be 1990-2001. 2002 had GTA: Vice City and Mario Party 4 and other such garbage :P Super Mario Sunshine was also not as good as the first. The transition out of the golden age can be 2001, because it had Final Fantasy X and that game was HOT garbage.  ;D But it also had Devil May Cry and SSB:M which kind of redeems it.


Vice City kicked ass! I dunno how you don't like the GTA games, they're fun as hell!
2002 had: Pro Skater 4, Spider-Man, Metroid Prime, Ratchet and Clank, Delta Force, C-12 Final Resistance, Wind Waker, Sly Cooper... My god, how is this the end of the golden age!?!?

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Do you see it? Look! Pro Skater 4!! This is the golden age of gaming right here!!!

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/06/16 at 10:44 pm

Y'all opinions on the 6th gen don't agree with my opinions. Therefore I will hunt you down and destroy you. >:(  Slowpoke, give me the directions to your house.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/06/16 at 10:45 pm


Fallout isn't  GTA Clone (according to most people). Neither is Driver 2 (all you do is mainly drive around) or Far Cry (don't have the same gameplay setup as it's virtually just a FPS that is open world and it doesn't fit into the same genre as GTA aside from the fact that its a shooter which has been popular well before GTA/Halo). Now Driver 3 can be seen as a GTA clone. Same for True Crime and maybe Mafia.

As for the N64 vs GC I'm not sure if I'd call its droughts a fact of life. The N64 had a total of 388 games released. The GC had 662 games. Now compared to the PS2 that is a drought. But compared to the N64 the GC had less droughts.


I say once again. To each his own 8)  If you don't like the games that were popular its fine. But from what I remember there a ton of other games to enjoy. By the end of the 6th gen only 5 out of my 54 game collection (at the time) were shooters. Every other game were a fighter, racer, RPG, platformer, or Action Adventure.


Lol my bad, I got Fallout and Far Cry confused even though I mentioned it later. ;D There is also Saints Row. They call out DRIV3R for being a GTA clone right in San Andreas, so it's pretty clone-y if they have to call you out.

Naw, by late 1998 N64 was in its golden age and there weren't many droughts after that. As for Gamecube's 600 games, a lot of those were trash like that terrible Beyblade game that broke controllers or that shameless Yu-gi-oh RPG. There were some decent games on it like Resident Evil 4 and Soul Calibur 2, but those were so far and few between. Gamecube's peak was literally late 2001 and it was all downhill after that, which further proves my theory that the golden age ended in 2001. 8)

I'm not sure how many of my games were shooters. It was mostly my brother buying console games at that point (I had defected and taken refuge in handhelds), I'm going to guess about 50-70% of them were shooters or dudebro racers like Need For Speed.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/06/16 at 10:48 pm


Y'all opinions on the 6th gen don't agree with my opinions. Therefore I will hunt you down and destroy you. >:(  Slowpoke, give me the directions to your house.


I agree. I am so upset that people disagree with me that I gotta get Bubba to go out and change some opinions.

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"Ey, fella!? Ya don't think Pro Skata faw is top notch gamin?"


I'm not sure how many of my games were shooters. It was mostly my brother buying console games at that point (I had defected and taken refuge in handhelds), I'm going to guess about 50-70% of them were shooters or dudebro racers like Need For Speed.


You even insult Need for Speed.... Hot Pursuit 2 on the Gamecube is the best racing game ever released! >:(

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/06/16 at 10:49 pm


Vice City kicked ass! I dunno how you don't like the GTA games, they're fun as hell!
2002 had: Pro Skater 4, Spider-Man, Metroid Prime, Ratchet and Clank, Delta Force, C-12 Final Resistance, Wind Waker, Sly Cooper... My god, how is this the end of the golden age!?!?

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Do you see it? Look! Pro Skater 4!! This is the golden age of gaming right here!!!


Oh man, Wind Waker was such a fall from grace after Ocarina/Majora's Mask. This further proves my theory. Ratcher & Clank are hacks, nothing can replicate the good ole Banjo Kazooie games.  :\'( Wasn't the Spiderman game from 2000? Golden-age is all about innovation and ground-breaking though, which none of those games do except GTA (which sucks because of how many clones it would inspire).

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/06/16 at 10:52 pm


I agree. I am so upset that people disagree with me that I gotta get Bubba to go out and change some opinions.

"Ey, fella!? Ya don't think Pro Skata faw is top notch gamin?"

You even insult Need for Speed.... Hot Pursuit 2 on the Gamecube is the best racing game ever released! >:(


I liked Need for Speed but hated it at the same time. I think I was getting burnt out by yearly releases. There were like, a 100 Need for Speed games by the time the generation ended surely.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/06/16 at 10:55 pm


Oh man, Wind Waker was such a fall from grace after Ocarina/Majora's Mask. This further proves my theory. Ratcher & Clank are hacks, nothing can replicate the good ole Banjo Kazooie games.  :\'( Wasn't the Spiderman game from 2000? Golden-age is all about innovation and ground-breaking though, which none of those games do except GTA (which sucks because of how many clones it would inspire).


:o :o :o :o
Do you not like anything!? >:(

This amazing game is from 2002:
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But you could also fit this in as the second edition came out in 2002:
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I'm sorry but the PS2 broke so many grounds with it's amazing graphics. It is a beast of a machine, continuing on the legacy of the PS1. GTA still kicks ass. I love playing those games! >:( >:( >:(


I liked Need for Speed but hated it at the same time. I think I was getting burnt out by yearly releases. There were like, a 100 Need for Speed games by the time the generation ended surely.


Hot Pursuit 2 and Underground 1/2 are really good!

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/06/16 at 11:03 pm

My tastes are highly exquisite and include games such as Rampage World Tour.

Spiderman 2 is alright. Is that the one where you deliver pizza? It's a good game but not exactly in my top 50 :P

Need for Speed games are not bad either actually, especially Underground. But not in my highly exquisite top 50. 8)

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/06/16 at 11:07 pm


My tastes are highly exquisite and include games such as Rampage World Tour.

Spiderman 2 is alright. Is that the one where you deliver pizza? It's a good game but not exactly in my top 50 :P

Need for Speed games are not bad either actually, especially Underground. But not in my highly exquisite top 50. 8)


You seem to have the taste of the cretins if you don't like the PS2! >:( Gaming's golden age = 1985-2002.

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That's the PS2/GC/Xbox one. The PS1 game is where you fight Electro and crap. Totally different game (but both are super good).

How is Hot Pursuit 2 not in your top 50!? What about Donald Trump's Real Estate Tycoon!? If it's not in your top 50 I dunno what to say.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/06/16 at 11:09 pm

That game wouldn't even be in my top 1000 once I finish that many games.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/06/16 at 11:13 pm


Y'all opinions on the 6th gen don't agree with my opinions. Therefore I will hunt you down and destroy you. >:(  Slowpoke, give me the directions to your house.


Why is anyone but me allowed to have opinions? That's what's wrong with this world.  >:(

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/06/16 at 11:15 pm


That game wouldn't even be in my top 1000 once I finish that many games.


You're just pissed off because you didn't get the level 6 frosted tips toupee upgrade like I did. If you did, it'd be number 1 on your top 50 like it is on mine.


Why is anyone but me allowed to have opinions? That's what's wrong with this world.  >:(


If you disagree with Jordan, you're not even worth having an opinion. ;)

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/06/16 at 11:29 pm


Lol my bad, I got Fallout and Far Cry confused even though I mentioned it later. ;D There is also Saints Row. They call out DRIV3R for being a GTA clone right in San Andreas, so it's pretty clone-y if they have to call you out.

Naw, by late 1998 N64 was in its golden age and there weren't many droughts after that. As for Gamecube's 600 games, a lot of those were trash like that terrible Beyblade game that broke controllers or that shameless Yu-gi-oh RPG. There were some decent games on it like Resident Evil 4 and Soul Calibur 2, but those were so far and few between. Gamecube's peak was literally late 2001 and it was all downhill after that, which further proves my theory that the golden age ended in 2001. 8)

I'm not sure how many of my games were shooters. It was mostly my brother buying console games at that point (I had defected and taken refuge in handhelds), I'm going to guess about 50-70% of them were shooters or dudebro racers like Need For Speed.

I think DRIV3R can be seen as a GTA clone somewhat (I thought it was when I first played it). And I can't remember how Saints Row was in terms of gameplay.

As for the GC's 600+ games mostly being trash while I can't deny that the same can be said for the N64 (or any console really). A critically well-received game usually has to have a aggregated score of 75% (or a 4/5 star game) or higher.  From what research tells me the N64 had 113 out of 388 games that had an overall score of 75/100 or higher. The GC had around 210 games with a 75/100 or higher out of its 682 games. In other words for both the N64 & GC roughly 1/3 of their whole lineup had good games. The other 2/3s were games under 75/100. But for every console we tend to have a quantity over quality situation. Faster to get crappy games out than it is to get good games out. So we ended up getting more crappier games than good games. Although what a person sees as "good" is overly subjective (For example I don't like Zelda Skyward Sword despite its overall praise critically yet I'd enjoy a game like Star Fox Assault which had tons of complaints from people).  Heck even critic game review scores are subjective. So it's all comes down to the individual.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/06/16 at 11:36 pm

To be honest, I've always thought the N64 and Gamecube did have roughly 1/3 good games out of their whole library. Both PlayStations, on the other hand, I think had a vast majority of incredible games from the beginning to end of their run.

The PSX and PS2 are godly, mighty systems. Nothing else compares to the PlayStation.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/06/16 at 11:42 pm


To be honest, I've always thought the N64 and Gamecube did have roughly 1/3 good games out of their whole library. Both PlayStations, on the other hand, I think had a vast majority of incredible games from the beginning to end of their run.


The PS1 had 2355 games while the PS2 had  2469. Probably the only consoles to never have anything that resembles a drought in games. As for how many good games there were I have no idea. But the PS1 and PS2 tend to go down in history as the greatest consoles of all time. So I assume they had a pretty good lineup all the way until their end. Heck the PS1 was the first console to sell over 100 Million units. That was a record that wouldn't be broken until the PS2 came and sold 155 Million units which still gives it the titled of best selling console. If only the PS3 and PS4 were like the PS1 and PS2. Don't get me wrong as I think the PS3/4 are decent, but not as good as the first two consoles.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/06/16 at 11:48 pm


The PS1 had 2355 games while the PS2 had  2469. Probably the only consoles to never have anything that resembles a drought in games. As for how many good games there were I have no idea. But the PS1 and PS2 tend to go down in history as the greatest consoles of all time. So I assume they had a pretty good lineup all the way until their end. Heck the PS1 was the first console to sell over 100 Million units. That was a record that wouldn't be broken until the PS2 came and sold 155 Million units which still gives it the titled of best selling console. If only the PS3 and PS4 were like the PS1 and PS2. Don't get me wrong as I think the PS3/4 are decent, but not as good as the first two consoles.


Pretty much. The Xbox, N64 and Gamecube had a lot of droughts but the PS2 and PS1 just kept going on and on with good games right until they were discontinued and I keep buyin' 'em because they ruled so much. Man, I miss the days when the Pro Skaters came out and I'd be at the counter with both the PS1 and PS2 editions. I'd beat the game twice! I haven't played the PS4 (doesn't look very appealing) but the PS3 was ok. It had some decent stuff but by time it came out, gaming was already filled with crappy first person shooters.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/07/16 at 12:04 am


Pretty much. The Xbox, N64 and Gamecube had a lot of droughts but the PS2 and PS1 just kept going on and on with good games right until they were discontinued and I keep buyin' 'em because they ruled so much. Man, I miss the days when the Pro Skaters came out and I'd be at the counter with both the PS1 and PS2 editions. I'd beat the game twice! I haven't played the PS4 (doesn't look very appealing) but the PS3 was ok. It had some decent stuff but by time it came out, gaming was already filled with crappy first person shooters.


I'm not sure what fascinated people with shooter games. To me they're boring (with the exception of Halo, Borderlands, Overwatch, Paladins, Battleborn, and Team Fortress 2 as these shooters aren't as generic/dull looking). PS4 is okay, but I don't find many of its games to be as interesting.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/07/16 at 12:09 am


I'm not sure what fascinated people with shooter games. To me they're boring (with the exception of Halo, Borderlands, Overwatch, Paladins, Battleborn, and Team Fortress 2 as these shooters aren't as generic/dull looking). PS4 is okay, but I don't find many of its games to be as interesting.


I really liked the first two Halo games (which I still own. Combat Evolved is the best one) but I'm more of a 3rd person shooter guy. I like stuff like Star Wars Battlefront 2 or Destroy All Humans 2. PS4 looks really boring, to be honest. I looked up some of the games and it seems like a HUGE, HUGE step down from the PS2!

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/07/16 at 12:32 am


Pretty much. The Xbox, N64 and Gamecube had a lot of droughts but the PS2 and PS1 just kept going on and on with good games right until they were discontinued and I keep buyin' 'em because they ruled so much. Man, I miss the days when the Pro Skaters came out and I'd be at the counter with both the PS1 and PS2 editions. I'd beat the game twice! I haven't played the PS4 (doesn't look very appealing) but the PS3 was ok. It had some decent stuff but by time it came out, gaming was already filled with crappy first person shooters.


Playstation 2 was only two players though. It was a loner's console.  :P

I didn't play console games 2003-2005, the GTA clones and the shooters were insufferable at that point. I played mostly casual PC games like SimCity 4 and MMOs like RuneScape and World of Warcraft. When I bought a DS sometime in 2005/2006 I got back into gaming. The DS is probably still my favourite, I own 114 games for it  :D

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/07/16 at 12:34 am


Y'see, 6th gen is the start of the decline, so that's not a good thing. :P


You see Slowpoke? I told you that nothing beats 2001 for gaming of the 2000's decade, with 2004 coming close to it as well. When will you learn that 5th and 6th generation gaming was basically the same era, although, the later half of 6th generation was when the transition began into a new era and it was complete by the middle of 7th generation.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/07/16 at 12:35 am


List of 2001 games.
Final Fantasy X
Halo Combat Evolved
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Luigi's Mansion
Super Smash Bros Melee
Sonic Adventure 2
Grand Theft Auto 3
Mario Kart Super Circuit
Jak and Daxter
Devil May Cry
Capcom vs SNK 2
Klonoa 2 Lunatea's Veil
Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec
Wario Land 4
Sonic Advance
Ico
Dead or Alive 3
Advance Wars
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
Tony Hawk Proskater 3
Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
Max Payne
Silent Hill 2
Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal
Maximo: Ghosts to Glory
Pikmin
Animal Crossing
Wave Race: Blue Storm
Super Monkey Ball
Project Gotham Racing
Golden Sun
Super Mario Advance


This is a (uncomplete as I only put down games that I remember from the top of my head) list of popular and obscure games from 2001 for. Nearly all of these have been well received by critics. I also think 2001 was one of the greatest years in gaming and it was a great year that helped start the 6th gen on a good note. That usually isn't common as the first year of a gen tends to be disappoint to people due to their not being that many (good) games out yet. 8th gen is an example.


Man that list was so gold.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/07/16 at 12:39 am


Playstation 2 was only two players though. It was a loner's console.  :P

I didn't play console games 2003-2005, the GTA clones and the shooters were insufferable at that point. I played mostly casual PC games like SimCity 4 and MMOs like RuneScape and World of Warcraft. When I bought a DS sometime in 2005/2006 I got back into gaming. The DS is probably still my favourite, I own 114 games for it  :D


I only need two players! PS2 is a god's consoles. Zeus himself probably plays the PS2.

See? 2003-2005. No Pro Skater games came out during this time. If you said that was the beginning of the decline, I would accept it (even though I still liked gaming during 2003-2006). Do you like Sims 2? I played that game on the PC a lot. I used to make people I didn't like and set them on fire.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/07/16 at 12:40 am

Back to 2001 music I love a lot of the 2001 House/Techno/Dance music that came out during that year.
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I really liked the first two Halo games (which I still own. Combat Evolved is the best one) but I'm more of a 3rd person shooter guy. I like stuff like Star Wars Battlefront 2 or Destroy All Humans 2. PS4 looks really boring, to be honest. I looked up some of the games and it seems like a HUGE, HUGE step down from the PS2!


PS4 is okay, but I never cared for its lineup. Hopefully by the end of this console gen I'd change my mind when more interesting games come out. PS4 came out in 2013. So we should be seeing the PS5 in 2019/2020 as a console usually is at its peak for around 6-7 years. 2016 isn't over yet so I hope Sony's E3 of 2016 doesn't disappoint.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/07/16 at 12:42 am


You see Slowpoke? I told you that nothing beats 2001 for gaming of the 2000's decade, with 2004 coming close to it as well. When will you learn that 5th and 6th generation gaming was basically the same era, although, the later half of 6th generation was when the transition began into a new era and it was complete by the middle of 7th generation.


I have an absolute visceral hatred for 2004 in gaming, especially GTA: San Andreas, so we shall agree to disagree :P

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/07/16 at 12:43 am


The Gamecube was terrible and had massive droughts. It's only good in retrospect when you don't have to wait for new games to come out.  ;D

PS2 had a billion GTA clones on it, I remember that. I didn't enjoy going to the video game store anymore 2004/2005, nothing looked remotely interesting.  :( I thought i was getting old.


The Gamecube was only terrible for the era of Mario games it was in. Like Super Mario Sunshine not being on the same level of greatness as New Super Mario Bros, Super Mario 64, or Super Mario Galaxy. I'd still take Mario Kart Double Dash and Super Smash Bros Melee over Mart Kart Wii and Super Smash Bros Brawl though. However, overall when it comes to true Nintendo gaming with 1st party, 2nd party, and 3rd party games all combined, the Gamecube was still a lot superior to the Wii and it was the last true console that focused on true Nintendo gamers before the Wii shifted over to casuals. That's why a lot of people took the Gamecube's greatness for granted and people regret it to this day. Maybe true Nintendo gaming wise the Gamecube wasn't on the same level as the N64 but certainly better than what the Wii targeted towards though. I remember many Nintendo franchises like Star Fox, F-Zero, and a few others that were available for the N64 or Gamecube that were no longer around by the time the Wii came along. Although, the Wii did improve when it came to Mario games though like I said before. I could even use this analogy to prove how many Crash Bandicoot games were still relevant during the 5th & 6th generation era. Where has Crash Bandicoot been since 7th generation gaming? It goes deeper than this of course.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/07/16 at 12:46 am


PS4 is okay, but I never cared for its lineup. Hopefully by the end of this console gen I'd change my mind when more interesting games come out. PS4 came out in 2013. So we should be seeing the PS5 in 2019/2020 as a console usually is at its peak for around 6-7 years. 2016 isn't over yet so I hope Sony's E3 of 2016 doesn't disappoint.


I sure hope so but I'm not holding my breath. I am just happy to still have the good ol' PS2 and it's amazing games. I've had it since it came out in 2000; it's the best.


I have an absolute visceral hatred for 2004 in gaming, especially GTA: San Andreas, so we shall agree to disagree :P


San Andreas rocks. 8) I have it on right now (but my wife is playing it while I tell her how she is playing it all wrong).

Hate all things 2004 but leave 2002 out of it! >:(

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/07/16 at 12:47 am

2004 was okay in terms of gaming. Although my favorite years are 1996-2006.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/07/16 at 12:48 am


I only need two players! PS2 is a god's consoles. Zeus himself probably plays the PS2.

See? 2003-2005. No Pro Skater games came out during this time. If you said that was the beginning of the decline, I would accept it (even though I still liked gaming during 2003-2006). Do you like Sims 2? I played that game on the PC a lot. I used to make people I didn't like and set them on fire.


You remind me of that terrible game God of War  8-P why did terrible games sell so well in 6th Gen?!

Sims 2 was awesome game for a teenager with raging hormones like me, but that's probably not what you wanted to hear.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/07/16 at 12:49 am


All critics agree with me. 1990-2000 was the golden age of gaming. I decided to be charitable and make it 1991-2001, but now I'm having second thoughts :P No golden age of gaming would have GTA 3 or Xbox in it.


A lot of people may disagree with me on this, but in no way I consider 4th generation gaming as part of the golden age, but that's just me though. Sure, there were many good franchises at the time like Street Fighter or Super Mario World, but there weren't enough franchises around that were yet to come by the time 5th generation came. Even some franchises that started in the 3rd or 4th generation era didn't become really good until it went 3-D in the 5th or 6th generation era. In all honesty 5th generation gaming and 6th generation gaming was the peak of the video game industry hands down, with the first half of 7th generation gaming being the silver age.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/07/16 at 12:50 am


GTA and Halo 1 would kick off dudebro gaming later.  >:(

In the long term probably, but the first half of the 6th gen(2001-2004) was probably the best time for gaming besides the 4th gen.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/07/16 at 12:50 am


2004 was okay in terms of gaming. Although my favorite years are 1996-2006.


Your opinion is equivalent to me saying that 5th & 6th generation gaming was the peak.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/07/16 at 12:52 am


A lot of people may disagree with me on this, but in no way I consider 4th generation gaming as part of the golden age, but that's just me though. Sure, there were many good franchises at the time like Street Fighter or Super Mario World, but there weren't enough franchises around that were yet to come by the time 5th generation came. Even some franchises that started in the 3rd or 4th generation era didn't become really good until it went 3-D in the 5th or 6th generation era. In all honesty 5th generation gaming and 6th generation gaming was the peak of the video game industry hands down, with the first half of 7th generation gaming being the silver age.

Are you on drugs :o ??? ?, SNES vs Genesis bro! As great as 5th gen was, you know I have PLENTY of great nostalgia fro that time, but the 4th gen was probably the best generation of gaming besides the 6th gen.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/07/16 at 12:54 am


You remind me of that terrible game God of War  8-P why did terrible games sell so well in 6th Gen?!


God of War was rad. What? Do you not like violence or something? I loved hackin' n slashin' all those suckaz who came in my way.


Sims 2 was awesome game for a teenager with raging hormones like me, but that's probably not what you wanted to hear.


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You damn post-1987 millennials and your cartoon-animation fetishes...


2004 was okay in terms of gaming. Although my favorite years are 1996-2006.


Those are mine, too. 1996 to 2002 was the best out of all those years but 2003-2006 was still really good.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/07/16 at 12:54 am


A lot of people may disagree with me on this, but in no way I consider 4th generation gaming as part of the golden age, but that's just me though. Sure, there were many good franchises at the time like Street Fighter or Super Mario World, but there weren't enough franchises around that were yet to come by the time 5th generation came. Even some franchises that started in the 3rd or 4th generation era didn't become really good until it went 3-D in the 5th or 6th generation era. In all honesty 5th generation gaming and 6th generation gaming was the peak of the video game industry hands down, with the first half of 7th generation gaming being the silver age.

Honestly it's all pretty subjective, I think age plays a factor as well. ::)  Guys like AVGN, Retro Liberty would have MAJOR things to say about your statement! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/07/16 at 12:54 am


The Gamecube was only terrible for the era of Mario games it was in. Like Super Mario Sunshine not being on the same level of greatness as New Super Mario Bros, Super Mario 64, or Super Mario Galaxy. I'd still take Mario Kart Double Dash and Super Smash Bros Melee over Mart Kart Wii and Super Smash Bros Brawl though. However, overall when it comes to true Nintendo gaming with 1st party, 2nd party, and 3rd party games all combined, the Gamecube was still a lot superior to the Wii and it was the last true console that focused on true Nintendo gamers before the Wii shifted over to casuals. That's why a lot of people took the Gamecube's greatness for granted and people regret it to this day. Maybe true Nintendo gaming wise the Gamecube wasn't on the same level as the N64 but certainly better than what the Wii targeted towards though. I remember many Nintendo franchises like Star Fox, F-Zero, and a few others that were available for the N64 or Gamecube that were no longer around by the time the Wii came along. Although, the Wii did improve when it came to Mario games though like I said before. I could even use this analogy to prove how many Crash Bandicoot games were still relevant during the 5th & 6th generation era. Where has Crash Bandicoot been since 7th generation gaming? It goes deeper than this of course.


The best part about the gamecube is that it had the most Nintendo series on it.
Zelda
Mario
Donkey Kong
Wario
F-Zero
Star Fox
Metroid
Pikmin
Chibi Robo
Super Smash Bros
Fire Emblem
Pokemon
Wave Race
Animal Crossing
Kirby


Every console after the GC would lack a few series. Wii for example doesn't have Star Fox or F-zero.

Also I now reached post #1000. Hell yeah! 8)

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/07/16 at 12:55 am


Are you on drugs :o ??? ?, SNES vs Genesis bro! As great as 5th gen was, you know I have PLENTY of great nostalgia fro that time, but the 4th gen was probably the best generation of gaming besides the 6th gen.


Oops, my bad, you're most definitely right about this. Maybe I should put it like this, 4th generation gaming was the golden age of 2-D gaming. I still think 5th & 6th were better though, and not to mention certain franchises that weren't around yet during the 4th gen era despite there already being plenty of good ones out there.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/07/16 at 12:56 am


A lot of people may disagree with me on this, but in no way I consider 4th generation gaming as part of the golden age, but that's just me though. Sure, there were many good franchises at the time like Street Fighter or Super Mario World, but there weren't enough franchises around that were yet to come by the time 5th generation came. Even some franchises that started in the 3rd or 4th generation era didn't become really good until it went 3-D in the 5th or 6th generation era. In all honesty 5th generation gaming and 6th generation gaming was the peak of the video game industry hands down, with the first half of 7th generation gaming being the silver age.


4th Gen gaming is my favourite. It sucks that I was too young to get into at the time. All games felt polished as games could be and a lot of the games were ground breaking.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/07/16 at 12:57 am


Honestly it's all pretty subjective, I think age plays a factor as well. ::)  Guys like AVGN, Retro Liberty would have MAJOR things to say about your statement! ;D ;D ;D ;D


;D ;D ;D ;D

Yeah, I still scratch my head when certain guys believe that 3rd or 4th generation was the golden age of gaming and they leave out 5th or 6th generation and I'm like "what the hell are you talking about?" You're missing out on so many great franchises and gameplay experience!

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/07/16 at 12:57 am


Your opinion is equivalent to me saying that 5th & 6th generation gaming was the peak.


That's pretty much what I mean.  8) Although I also love the 4th gen. 1996 was when the 5th gen reached its peak. 2006 is when the 6th gen was leaving relevancy as the 7th gen was taking over. So 1996-2006 or 5th-6th gens.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/07/16 at 12:58 am


The best part about the gamecube is that it had the most Nintendo series on it.
Zelda
Mario
Donkey Kong
Wario
F-Zero
Star Fox
Metroid
Pikmin
Chibi Robo
Super Smash Bros
Fire Emblem
Pokemon
Wave Race
Animal Crossing
Kirby


Every console after the GC would lack a few series. Wii for example doesn't have Star Fox or F-zero.

Also I now reached post #1000. Hell yeah! 8)


Congratulations, Toon. You're now a man.

https://lh3.ggpht.com/A6K5LZCpKZ1HsQsuCL1Hw-aoD0VI9G8N9VCRNxPLxFflPIO9S7_2CFk8ZJcmxkk6e9Y=w1264

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/07/16 at 1:00 am


God of War was rad. What? Do you not like violence or something? I loved hackin' n slashin' all those suckaz who came in my way.

You damn post-1987 millennials and your cartoon-animation fetishes...

Those are mine, too. 1996 to 2002 was the best out of all those years but 2003-2006 was still really good.


God of War is terrible  8-P  8-P 8-P it's Devil May Cry for people with short attention spans.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/07/16 at 1:00 am


Oops, my bad, you're most definitely right about this. Maybe I should put it like this, 4th generation gaming was the golden age of 2-D gaming. I still think 5th & 6th were better though, and not to mention certain franchises that weren't around yet during the 4th gen era despite there already being plenty of good ones out there.

Dem graphics doe! ::) ;D  N64 has aged like fine wine, but the PS1....... both the SNES and Genesis have aged well; so that's probably why I give the SLIGHT edge to 4th.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/07/16 at 1:00 am


;D ;D ;D ;D

Yeah, I still scratch my head when certain guys believe that 3rd or 4th generation was the golden age of gaming and they leave out 5th or 6th generation and I'm like "what the hell are you talking about?" You're missing out on so many great franchises and gameplay experience!


Yeah, it's very subjective. Heck I don't even like 3rd gen games all that much due to not caring for the NES. But I do like 4th gen games. 4th-6th are great gens for gaming. But I do like how it was the 3rd gen that pretty much built the gaming industry after the gaming crash in 1983.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/07/16 at 1:02 am

I wonder what yall think about these videos!
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Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/07/16 at 1:03 am


God of War is terrible  8-P  8-P 8-P it's Devil May Cry for people with short attention spans.


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Congratulations, Toon. You're now a man.

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Thank you, Jordan. I am proud to be a considered a man.  8)

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/07/16 at 1:04 am

I liked my Atari, which I am not sure if it was the second Gen or third Gen. Those arcade SHMUPs were the bomb and I love that joystick controller LOL

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/07/16 at 1:05 am


God of War is terrible  8-P  8-P 8-P it's Devil May Cry for people with short attention spans.


Well, yeah, my attention span is probably the shortest possible. ;)

Oh look!

http://www.lukiegames.com/assets/images/PS2/ps2_grand_theft_auto_san_andreas-110214.jpg

It's a rad game!!


Thank you, Jordan. I am proud to be a considered a man.  8)


You're very welcome, Toon. Don't let Trollpoke and his offensiveness bring you down on your special day.

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>:(


I liked my Atari, which I am not sure if it was the second Gen or third Gen. Those arcade SHMUPs were the bomb and I love that joystick controller LOL


Arcades rule! The best right next to the first two Playstations!

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/07/16 at 1:08 am


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Playing God of War after playing Devil May Cry is like playing that Sony fighter after having played Super Smash Bros.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/07/16 at 1:10 am

If GTA had never come out, gaming would be so much better today it's not even funny.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/07/16 at 1:11 am


I wonder what yall think about these videos!
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I agreee with them. The "golden age" can be very subjective. And I tend to base my opinion on things besides nostalgia has that just another form of bias to me.  As for the Sony fanboy issue I'm the type of guy who doesn't like 1 console fanboys. I try to get all the consoles when I can as I enjoy nearly all games. The 7th gen isn't my favorite gen, but I do like certain things that came out of it.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/07/16 at 1:11 am


I liked my Atari, which I am not sure if it was the second Gen or third Gen. Those arcade SHMUPs were the bomb and I love that joystick controller LOL


Atari 2600 is 2nd gen.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/07/16 at 1:13 am


If GTA had never come out, gaming would be so much better today it's not even funny.


I love GTA 3 to San Andreas, though. :(

GTA 3 and Vice City are the frosted tips era! If you don't like Xtreme! frosted tips and chain wallets then I honestly do not know what to say to you. You're mad because you didn't get the Sum 41 upgrade in any of the games.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/07/16 at 1:14 am


If GTA had never come out, gaming would be so much better today it's not even funny.

You sure about that?  ??? The way the game industry is nowadays isn't mainly due to GTA.


But anyways I think we're getting WAY off topic. Nearly everything we say can be seen as overly subjective. Heck some of the things we said have nothing to do with 2001.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/07/16 at 1:14 am


Atari 2600 is 2nd gen.
Yeah, I think that's the one I had. I'm too 70s kid for y'all.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/07/16 at 1:16 am


But anyways I think we're getting WAY off topic. Nearly everything we say can be seen as overly objective. Heck some of the things we said have nothing to do with 2001.


Yeah, like the downfall of gaming which has to do with 2003.


Yeah, I think that's the one I had. I'm too 70s kid for y'all.


Tell that to Early 90s Guy. ;)


You sure about that?  ??? The way the game industry is nowadays isn't mainly due to GTA.


But anyways I think we're getting WAY off topic. Nearly everything we say can be seen as overly objective. Heck some of the things we said have nothing to do with 2001.


You mean subjective? ???

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/07/16 at 1:21 am



You mean subjective? ???

My bad I meant subjective.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/07/16 at 1:24 am

In 2001 in Canada we got PC games in our cereal boxes on CD ROM. I remember I got Roller-coaster Tycoon (which is one of the best games ever), Monopoly Tycoon and Zoo Tycoon, also my favourites. Do they do cereal box toys nowadays? I don't get any.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/07/16 at 1:26 am

In 2001, Sum 41 looked like this:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Aaq7yXXgDBY/TWTY0TLwPnI/AAAAAAAAAAk/dleJrB_Uc4A/s1600/Sum41.jpg

In 2004, they looked like this:

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2001 = one of the raddest years ever

2004 = crap

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/07/16 at 1:31 am

All Killer No Filler  and Bleed American  :D

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/07/16 at 1:32 am


In 2001 in Canada we got PC games in our cereal boxes on CD ROM. I remember I got Roller-coaster Tycoon (which is one of the best games ever), Monopoly Tycoon and Zoo Tycoon, also my favourites. Do they do cereal box toys nowadays? I don't get any.


I'm actually curious about that as well. In 2001 I also remember seeing toys and PC games in cereal boxes as well. For example I remember getting the Disney's Extreme Goofy Skateboarding from a cereal box.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/54/ExtremelyGoofySkateboardingPCBoxArt.jpg
Nowadays I don't see toys in cereal boxes anymore. My most favorite cereal box toy was this spoon that glowed in the dark.  8)

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/07/16 at 1:33 am


All Killer No Filler  and Bleed American  :D


All Killer, No Filler and Bleed American = Good/real Pop Punk and Emo albums from 2001. I listen and I enjoy.

Chuck and Futures = Chuck's is a crappy album that I want to smash with a hammer and Futures isn't as good as Bleed American (but it's ok).

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/07/16 at 1:35 am

2001:

http://enquirer.com/editions/2001/09/11/skateboard2_zoom.jpg

2004:
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/29500000/crying-emos-who-are-hurt-29526924-183-275.jpg

2001 = rad

2004 = crap

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/07/16 at 1:50 am

Slowpoke, apparently cereal box toys stopped being inside boxes due to children trying to eat them. And other reasons like there being new regulations on how companies should market their products along with other things like saving money by not having toys. I remember getting tons of cool things. Toys, Cartoons, Glow-In-The-Dark spoons, Pez dispenser, and games. As a kid those moments were like a Christmas. The from what I looked up the removal of toys mostly happened between the late '00s/early '10s.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/07/16 at 9:15 am


Slowpoke, apparently cereal box toys stopped being inside boxes due to children trying to eat them. And other reasons like there being new regulations on how companies should market their products along with other things like saving money by not having toys. I remember getting tons of cool things. Toys, Cartoons, Glow-In-The-Dark spoons, Pez dispenser, and games. As a kid those moments were like a Christmas. The from what I looked up the removal of toys mostly happened between the late '00s/early '10s.
Do you think it has to do with the current kid generation rising? The oldest members were already in school by then.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 03/07/16 at 9:46 am


Do you think it has to do with the current kid generation rising? The oldest members were already in school by then.


I think it's extreme political correctness if you ask me.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/07/16 at 10:10 am


I'm actually curious about that as well. In 2001 I also remember seeing toys and PC games in cereal boxes as well. For example I remember getting the Disney's Extreme Goofy Skateboarding from a cereal box.
Nowadays I don't see toys in cereal boxes anymore. My most favorite cereal box toy was this spoon that glowed in the dark.  8)


Spoon that glows in the dark? When do you ever get to make use of that? ;D


I think it's extreme political correctness if you ask me.


Most likely they got sued, or the litigation costs weren't worth it, rather than political correctness.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/07/16 at 1:41 pm


I think it's extreme political correctness if you ask me.



Spoon that glows in the dark? When do you ever get to make use of that? ;D

Most likely they got sued, or the litigation costs weren't worth it, rather than political correctness.


These could be reasons as well along with maybe that almost every toy they have is a device instead of an actual play-toy.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Howard on 03/07/16 at 3:07 pm


I only need two players! PS2 is a god's consoles. Zeus himself probably plays the PS2.

See? 2003-2005. No Pro Skater games came out during this time. If you said that was the beginning of the decline, I would accept it (even though I still liked gaming during 2003-2006). Do you like Sims 2? I played that game on the PC a lot. I used to make people I didn't like and set them on fire.


What about PS3?

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Howard on 03/07/16 at 3:09 pm


I liked my Atari, which I am not sure if it was the second Gen or third Gen. Those arcade SHMUPs were the bomb and I love that joystick controller LOL


I like Atari too.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/07/16 at 3:11 pm


Do you think it has to do with the current kid generation rising? The oldest members were already in school by then.


I assume so. When looking online there are tons of people asking why there aren't anymore toys in cereal boxes. All these results date between 2008-2015 which is when I guess the toys started to disappear. The current kids rising are more into digital things. Which is why nowadays in cereal boxes you'll instead be seeing more coupons and codes to put in. As one website states "codes found inside packages of Kellogg products to earn a variety of rewards for the entire family, such as movie tickets, toys and books, digital rewards such as music and eBooks, gift cards, sports equipment, and coupons off Kellogg products."It's more common to give kids codes to put online for prizes rather than to give them the actual prize inside the box. As for the older members I assumed by the time someone gets into 5th grade onward they wouldn't really care for toys inside boxes. And I doubt companies target Preteens/Teens with simple cereal box toys as they mostly go for younger kids or preschoolers.


Spoon that glows in the dark? When do you ever get to make use of that? ;D

Most likely they got sued, or the litigation costs weren't worth it, rather than political correctness.


Hey! Do you have any idea on how cool it is to eat cereal in the dark?!  :D 

Yeah, there were a lot of things that contributed to the removal of toys. It came to the point where companies don't see toys to be worth it anymore.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/07/16 at 3:24 pm


Slowpoke, apparently cereal box toys stopped being inside boxes due to children trying to eat them. And other reasons like there being new regulations on how companies should market their products along with other things like saving money by not having toys. I remember getting tons of cool things. Toys, Cartoons, Glow-In-The-Dark spoons, Pez dispenser, and games. As a kid those moments were like a Christmas. The from what I looked up the removal of toys mostly happened between the late '00s/early '10s.


Damn, no wonder why they don't have cool commercials for cereals anymore. It's all lame websites with games that don't seem fun. Jesus, what happened to these companies? They didn't have a problem putting in toys to cereals during the 70s, 80s, 90s, and even the 2000s. But now, they don't give a sh*t anymore?!

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/07/16 at 3:29 pm


I assume so. When looking online there are tons of people asking why there aren't anymore toys in cereal boxes. All these results date between 2008-2015 which is when I guess the toys started to disappear. The current kids rising are more into digital things. Which is why nowadays in cereal boxes you'll instead be seeing more coupons and codes to put in. As one website states "codes found inside packages of Kellogg products to earn a variety of rewards for the entire family, such as movie tickets, toys and books, digital rewards such as music and eBooks, gift cards, sports equipment, and coupons off Kellogg products."It's more common to give kids codes to put online for prizes rather than to give them the actual prize inside the box. As for the older members I assumed by the time someone gets into 5th grade onward they wouldn't really care for toys inside boxes. And I doubt companies target Preteens/Teens with simple cereal box toys as they mostly go for younger kids or preschoolers.


I think that's the case. I was already a preteen in the early 2010s, so I basically didn't care for the prizes. The cereals are okay, but I doubt people would tolerate a 16-year-old eating Trix or any other cereal intended for younger children.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/07/16 at 4:14 pm


I think that's the case. I was already a preteen in the early 2010s, so I basically didn't care for the prizes. The cereals are okay, but I doubt people would tolerate a 16-year-old eating Trix or any other cereal intended for younger children.

16 year olds eating Trix is funny. "Silly Teenager, Trix are for Kids!" I stopped caring for toys in cereal boxes once I turned 10 or 11. But I have younger siblings who would go crazy if they saw a toy inside a cereal box.

I remember getting this from a cereal box back in 2002.
http://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/1197257101-00.jpg
Amazing to see companies putting video games in cereal boxes.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/07/16 at 4:45 pm

Did anyone ever get these Playstation cereal toys of Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, and Tomb Raider in 2001?
http://cerealoffers.com/Cereal_Partners/Shreddies/2000s/2000-03/Playstation_Action_Hero/2001-Shreddies-Playstation-Action-Hero-front--2-.jpg
http://40.media.tumblr.com/87298d04b19c72828d353244d0a8f94e/tumblr_msjzacnflb1r2hwifo2_1280.jpg
http://cerealoffers.com/Cereal_Partners/Nesquik/2000s/2000-04/Playstation_Action_Hero/2001-Nesquik-Playstation-Action-Hero---Crash-Bandicoot-Lara-Craft---Spyro.jpg

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/07/16 at 5:17 pm


I remember getting this from a cereal box back in 2002.
http://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/1197257101-00.jpg
Amazing to see companies putting video games in cereal boxes.


I like how that disc is only meant for Windows 98. ;D

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/07/16 at 5:43 pm


I like how that disc is only meant for Windows 98. ;D


Along with Windows NT and Workstation 4.0.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/07/16 at 5:44 pm


I assume so. When looking online there are tons of people asking why there aren't anymore toys in cereal boxes. All these results date between 2008-2015 which is when I guess the toys started to disappear. The current kids rising are more into digital things. Which is why nowadays in cereal boxes you'll instead be seeing more coupons and codes to put in. As one website states "codes found inside packages of Kellogg products to earn a variety of rewards for the entire family, such as movie tickets, toys and books, digital rewards such as music and eBooks, gift cards, sports equipment, and coupons off Kellogg products."It's more common to give kids codes to put online for prizes rather than to give them the actual prize inside the box. As for the older members I assumed by the time someone gets into 5th grade onward they wouldn't really care for toys inside boxes. And I doubt companies target Preteens/Teens with simple cereal box toys as they mostly go for younger kids or preschoolers.

Hey! Do you have any idea on how cool it is to eat cereal in the dark?!  :D 

Yeah, there were a lot of things that contributed to the removal of toys. It came to the point where companies don't see toys to be worth it anymore.


I'm a grown ass man and I want toys in my cereal boxes. Roller-coaster Tycoon and Zoo Tycoon were the best games ever.


16 year olds eating Trix is funny. "Silly Teenager, Trix are for Kids!" I stopped caring for toys in cereal boxes once I turned 10 or 11. But I have younger siblings who would go crazy if they saw a toy inside a cereal box.

I remember getting this from a cereal box back in 2002.
http://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/1197257101-00.jpg
Amazing to see companies putting video games in cereal boxes.


What the hell. Did you get Contra in your cereal box too?  :o this game is too complicated for kids

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/07/16 at 5:50 pm


Along with Windows NT and Workstation 4.0.


Haha, yeah, look at that! Old skool vintage timez.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/07/16 at 7:46 pm


I like how that disc is only meant for Windows 98. ;D


Lot of people were still using Windows 98 back in 2002. According to this overly complicated looking chart.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/81/Operatingsystem_market_share.svg/900px-Operatingsystem_market_share.svg.png
The grayish line is Windows 98 which still had millions of users by 2002.


I'm a grown ass man and I want toys in my cereal boxes. Roller-coaster Tycoon and Zoo Tycoon were the best games ever.

Nothing wrong with wanting free stuff whenever you open a box of your favorite cereal.  8) Opening a box of lucky charms and get a free copy of Zoo Tycoon sounds awesome to me. Cartoons, Toys, Games, Mini Comics, Cards etc back when I was a kid these things were awesome. I still have that Crash Bandicoot cereal box toy from 2001.


What the hell. Did you get Contra in your cereal box too?  :o this game is too complicated for kids

Complicated or not at least it was free.  ;) 

I also had tons of other Cereal box PC games like Roller Coast Tycoon 2
http://i.imgur.com/9zUxGIu.jpg?1

Mission Kellogg
http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_small/6/60173/1562143-radc6989pc2dmissionkellog27s.jpg

On one of my most favorites being SpongeBob SquarePants: Operation Krabby Patty
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This game was actually pretty fun.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/07/16 at 7:54 pm


Lot of people were still using Windows 98 back in 2002. According to this overly complicated looking chart.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/81/Operatingsystem_market_share.svg/900px-Operatingsystem_market_share.svg.png
The grayish line is Windows 98 which still had millions of users by 2002.


Not me! I was already using Windows XP by then  ;D

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/07/16 at 7:56 pm


Not me! I was already using Windows XP by then  ;D

You gotta stop being ahead o everybody else! You had Windows XP AND Broadband long before most others. I was lucky enough to even have Windows 2000 and Dial up back then as most people in my neighborhood didn't have PCs or Internet at the time.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: SpyroKev on 03/07/16 at 8:25 pm

Since toys is a similar topic to cartoons, I just notice how channel examples like Cartoon Network, Disney or Nick don't even let the cartoon characters interact with the views anymore. They were highly active during the golden age of Kids WB haha I recently seen a YouTube VHS up load of Animaniacs hosting their series marathon on Cartoon Network from most likely in around 2001. I don't remember watching the event, sad enough.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/07/16 at 8:27 pm


Lot of people were still using Windows 98 back in 2002. According to this overly complicated looking chart.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/81/Operatingsystem_market_share.svg/900px-Operatingsystem_market_share.svg.png
The grayish line is Windows 98 which still had millions of users by 2002.


Toon, my man, of course! You know how I view 2002. ;) Haha, you've always got the right charts! I was actually looking for a chart like this to show that 98 was the dominant OS for 2002 so thanks! Everyone I knew had ME or 98 over XP in 2002. Hell, I remember how you could still buy new computer with 98 or the discs in stores in 2002. I didn't realize how popular 95 still was, though! :o


I also had tons of other Cereal box PC games like Roller Coast Tycoon 2
http://i.imgur.com/9zUxGIu.jpg?1


Roller Coaster Tycoon 2 was rad.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: cool123 on 03/07/16 at 8:29 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSu3hwbYHAY

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/07/16 at 8:30 pm


You gotta stop being ahead o everybody else! You had Windows XP AND Broadband long before most others. I was lucky enough to even have Windows 2000 and Dial up back then as most people in my neighborhood didn't have PCs or Internet at the time.


So, you had Internet around 1995 or early 1996? Damn, you must've wanted luxurious stuff back then.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/07/16 at 8:42 pm


So, you had Internet around 1995 or early 1996? Damn, you must've wanted luxurious stuff back then.


We had the internet but I never used it back then. It was mainly my father who used it for work related reasons. Dial up was something we had up until around 2004/2005. It wouldn't be until around 2000-2001 where I'd finally get my own PC.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/07/16 at 8:49 pm

I also got my own computer in 2000 since I was tired of waiting for my turn on the family PC.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Howard on 03/08/16 at 2:57 pm


16 year olds eating Trix is funny. "Silly Teenager, Trix are for Kids!" I stopped caring for toys in cereal boxes once I turned 10 or 11. But I have younger siblings who would go crazy if they saw a toy inside a cereal box.

I remember getting this from a cereal box back in 2002.
http://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/1197257101-00.jpg
Amazing to see companies putting video games in cereal boxes.


I wanted to see actual video games in the cereal boxes.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Howard on 03/08/16 at 2:59 pm


I also got my own computer in 2000 since I was tired of waiting for my turn on the family PC.


and to this day you still have your own?

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/08/16 at 4:03 pm


and to this day you still have your own?


Nowadays I got one computer and I share it with my wife. I still got the my 2000 PC but it's in a box somewhere.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/08/16 at 11:22 pm

All these kiddy movies I saw back in the day!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QNl7Prsm5wI/VEc6Y1-29VI/AAAAAAABSnA/0PFvtLQZqm0/s1600/Atlantis_the_lost_empire_cover.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/63/Monsters_Inc.JPGhttp://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTk2NTE1NTE0M15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwNjY4NTYxMTE@._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/26/Spy_kids.jpghttp://scene7.targetimg1.com/is/image/Target/11296739?wid=480&hei=480http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517KT4604NL.jpg

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Zelek2 on 03/09/16 at 12:16 am

Maybe my family missed out but did anyone use Mac OS 9 back in the day? On those multicolor iMacs?

Contrary to popular belief, the Mac had a lot great old games (though nobody's ever heard of them ;D), like Nanosaur, Marathon, Oni, Otto Matic, and Glider PRO.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 03/09/16 at 8:06 am


Maybe my family missed out but did anyone use Mac OS 9 back in the day? On those multicolor iMacs?

Contrary to popular belief, the Mac had a lot great old games (though nobody's ever heard of them ;D), like Nanosaur, Marathon, Oni, Otto Matic, and Glider PRO.


My elementary school from Kindergarten through Third Grade had these:

https://worthaburrito.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/imac_dv_g3_400_indigo.jpghttp://ismh.s3.amazonaws.com/2012-12-13-slotload.jpg

Although as you could see they were already running on OS X at that point.

Also at school during our free time me and classmates used to play these on the computer:

http://www.mobygames.com/images/i/02/31/689481.png

And one of my favorites being this:

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Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/09/16 at 10:31 am


And one of my favorites being this:

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C0hyIoBQirUhucbsWrGfag
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Holy crap! Flashback out of no where! Those Arthur computer games! I played those a lot at my Grandma's house when I was little! I'd always be excited to catch an Arthur episode at 5:00pm and 5:30pm on PBS Kids (GPB) and 6:00pm on PBS Kids (PBA 30) when I was 4-8 years old.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 03/09/16 at 1:17 pm


Holy crap! Flashback out of no where! Those Arthur computer games! I played those a lot at my Grandma's house when I was little! I'd always be excited to catch an Arthur episode at 5:00pm and 5:30pm on PBS Kids (GPB) and 6:00pm on PBS Kids (PBA 30) when I was 4-8 years old.


Yeah these games were the sh!t. They also had some from other books like Cat and the Hat and Green Eggs and Ham, if I may recall. Also yeah PBS was awesome! Although most weekday afternoons I would usually watch Kids Wb of Toonami, I Would also watch PBS 13 during most of Preschool, Kindergarten, and First Grade. There was nothing better than to come home from school and watch PBS 13 to catch Arthur!

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 03/09/16 at 1:20 pm

When it came to weekday afternoon blocks that I watched the most after school it was:

1. Toonami (favorite school year either 2002-2003 or 2003-2004)

2. Kids WB (favorite school year either 2000-2001 or 2001-2002)

3. PBS (favorite school year either 2001-2002 or 2002-2003)

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/09/16 at 1:22 pm

Pokémon, Digimon, Yu-gi-oh (late 2001) and Dragon Ball Z were my life lol.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 03/09/16 at 1:26 pm


Pokémon, Digimon, Yu-gi-oh (late 2001) and Dragon Ball Z were my life lol.


Lol same! Pokemon for me 1999-2003, YuGiOh 2002-2003, & DBZ from 2001-2003. Never really was a big fan of Digimon though (no offense)

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/09/16 at 1:40 pm


Lol same! Pokemon for me 1999-2003, YuGiOh 2002-2003, & DBZ from 2001-2003. Never really was a big fan of Digimon though (no offense)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3Z2MP8vMWU

>:(

Just kidding lol.

Dragon Ball Z - 1997 to infinity
Pokémon - 1998 to infinity
Yu-gi-oh - 2001 to infinity
Digimon - 1999 to 2003

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/09/16 at 6:02 pm


When it came to weekday afternoon blocks that I watched the most after school it was:

1. Toonami (favorite school year either 2002-2003 or 2003-2004)

2. Kids WB (favorite school year either 2000-2001 or 2001-2002)

3. PBS (favorite school year either 2001-2002 or 2002-2003)

1. Toonami (my favorite school year HANDS DOWN 2001-02 school year)


2. Nick Slime Time/U pick Live (favorite:2000-01 school year or 2002-03 school year)


3. Kids WB (favorite:2000-01 school year)


4. PBS kids(favorite:2000-01 school year)

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/09/16 at 6:03 pm


When it came to weekday afternoon blocks that I watched the most after school it was:

1. Toonami (favorite school year either 2002-2003 or 2003-2004)

2. Kids WB (favorite school year either 2000-2001 or 2001-2002)

3. PBS (favorite school year either 2001-2002 or 2002-2003)

Also don't forget Wheel of Fortune, Jeopardy, and PBS weekly news!!! ;D

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 03/09/16 at 6:11 pm


1. Toonami (my favorite school year HANDS DOWN 2001-02 school year)


2. Nick Slime Time/U pick Live (favorite:2000-01 school year or 2002-03 school year)


3. Kids WB (favorite:2000-01 school year)


4. PBS kids(favorite:2000-01 school year)

Also don't forget Wheel of Fortune, Jeopardy, and PBS weekly news!!! ;D


Yeah U-Pick Live & Slimetime Live were very epic as well, although I always associated them with the evening hours, like 5 or 6ish. While Kids WB, & PBS being like 3-5 (I usually got home around 3:30). Toonami being a mixture of both late afternoon and evening being from 5-6:30ish. Also yeah you can't forget about the daily game shows. Heck I still watch Wheel of Fortune and Jeporday to this day!

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 03/10/16 at 10:51 am


1. Toonami (favorite school year either 2002-2003 or 2003-2004)


One thing that's really cool about Toonami is way it sort of "bridged the gap" between early Y kids and later Y kids because of it's very broad audience. By 2001-02, most kids my age saw ourselves as being "too old" for Nickelodeon, but we generally had no problem sitting down with our younger brothers in the afternoons and watching DBZ, Gundam Wing, Outlaw Star, or Tenchi. I even remember some seniors at my school (mostly 1983ers and '84ers) that still watched Toonami at that time.

Because it had such a large cross-generational appeal, Toonami does seem to be one common bond that holds a large majority of "Millennial children" together, whether they were born in 1985 or 1995.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 03/10/16 at 11:19 am


One thing that's really cool about Toonami is way it sort of "bridged the gap" between early Y kids and later Y kids because of it's very broad audience. By 2001-02, most kids my age saw ourselves as being "too old" for Nickelodeon, but we generally had no problem sitting down with our younger brothers in the afternoons and watching DBZ, Gundam Wing, Outlaw Star, or Tenchi. I even remember some seniors at my school (mostly 1983ers and '84ers) that still watched Toonami at that time.

Because it had such a large cross-generational appeal, Toonami does seem to be one common bond that holds a large majority of "Millennial children" together, whether they were born in 1985 or 1995.


Yeah I agree with this 100%! During family get togethers as a kid all of my cousins that were my age (born early-mid 90's) would watch Cartoon Network with my cousins who were around your age (born mid-late 80's), regardless if it was those timeless Cartoon Cartoons or the epic action lineup that was Toonami! Those were the good ole' days 8)

Also it makes you wonder, what if Nickelodeon tried to be as aggressive as CN back in the early 00's? Don't get me wrong, I still loved Nick during that time (to the point that I preferred it as a kid), but looking back I do admit the lineup was pretty sparse in comparison to their golden years in the 90's. The Era from 1998-2004/5 was basically Nick's 'City Era' when it came to quality and diverse programming, meaning it was still good but nowhere near as a great as it was before. The 1991-1997/8 Era on the other hand was when they had an equal balance of great Nicktoons, Game Shows, & Nickcoms.

In many ways, the Golden Era of Nick from 1991-1998 was to Older Gen Yers born from 1984-1990, what was the Powerhouse Era of CN from 1997-2004 was to Younger Gen Yers born from 1991-1997, with both eras having huge appeals.

During the Nick golden age you had many Late Gen Xers & Early Gen Yers, born circa 1977-1983, who would watch Nick with their (Older HALF) Core Yer younger siblings for SNICK, with classics like Clarissa Explains It All, Hey Dude, Alex Mack, Double Dare, Are You Afraid of the Dark?, All That, and Pete & Pete. While during the Powerhouse era of CN you had many Older Gen Yers, born from 1984-1990, who would watch CN with their (Younger HALF) Core Yer younger siblings for Toonami, with classics like Dragon Ball Z, Sailor Moon, Gundam, Tenchi, Yu Yu Hakusho, Batman Beyond, and Ruroni Kenshin.

It seemed that in both eras everything was perfect. In the Nick Golden Age, 90's Kids had their Nicktoons while 90's Teens had their SNICK. While in the CN Golden Age, Millennium Kids had their Cartoon Cartoons, while Millennium Teens had their Toonami.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 03/10/16 at 1:14 pm


Yeah I agree with this 100%! During family get togethers as a kid all of my cousins that were my age (born early-mid 90's) would watch Cartoon Network with my cousins who were around your age (born mid-late 80's), regardless if it was those timeless Cartoon Cartoons or the epic action lineup that was Toonami! Those were the good ole' days 8)

Also it makes you wonder, what if Nickelodeon tried to be as aggressive as CN back in the early 00's? Don't get me wrong, I still loved Nick during that time (to the point that I preferred it as a kid), but looking back I do admit the lineup was pretty sparse in comparison to their golden years in the 90's. The Era from 1998-2004/5 was basically Nick's 'City Era' when it came to quality and diverse programming, meaning it was still good but nowhere near as a great as it was before. The 1991-1997/8 Era on the other hand was when they had an equal balance of great Nicktoons, Game Shows, & Nickcoms.

In many ways, the Golden Era of Nick from 1991-1998 was to Older Gen Yers born from 1984-1990, what was the Powerhouse Era of CN from 1997-2004 was to Younger Gen Yers born from 1991-1997, with both eras having huge appeals.

During the Nick golden age you had many Late Gen Xers & Early Gen Yers, born circa 1977-1983, who would watch Nick with their (Older HALF) Core Yer younger siblings for SNICK, with classics like Clarissa Explains It All, Hey Dude, Alex Mack, Double Dare, Are You Afraid of the Dark?, All That, and Pete & Pete. While during the Powerhouse era of CN you had many Older Gen Yers, born from 1984-1990, who would watch CN with their (Younger HALF) Core Yer younger siblings for Toonami, with classics like Dragon Ball Z, Sailor Moon, Gundam, Tenchi, Yu Yu Hakusho, Batman Beyond, and Ruroni Kenshin.

It seemed that in both eras everything was perfect. In the Nick Golden Age, 90's Kids had their Nicktoons while 90's Teens had their SNICK. While in the CN Golden Age, Millennium Kids had their Cartoon Cartoons, while Millennium Teens had their Toonami.


Yeah, Nick had some good shows during the Y2K era (The Wild Thornberrys, As Told By Ginger, The Brothers Garcia, and Rocket Power were four in particular that I liked) but the problem with Nick during these years is that it just didn't adapt to the changing tastes of the late '90s in the way that Cartoon Network successfully did.

Action cartoons were the dominant force of the Y2K era and Nick (other than perhaps Rocket Power) really just didn't have any shows that fit the prevailing aesthetic that kids were looking for at time. On the other hand, CN, even outside of Toonami, had numerous Cartoon Cartoons like Dexter's Laboratory, The Powerpuff Girls, and Samurai Jack that were heavily influenced by the anime/action cartoon genre.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 03/10/16 at 1:33 pm


Yeah, Nick had some good shows during the Y2K era (The Wild Thornberrys, As Told By Ginger, The Brothers Garcia, and Rocket Power were four in particular that I liked) but the problem with Nick during these years is that it just didn't adapt to the changing tastes of the late '90s in the way that Cartoon Network successfully did.

Action cartoons were the dominant force of the Y2K era and Nick (other than perhaps Rocket Power) really just didn't have any shows that fit the prevailing aesthetic that kids were looking for at time. On the other hand, CN, even outside of Toonami, had numerous Cartoon Cartoons like Dexter's Laboratory, The Powerpuff Girls, and Samurai Jack that were heavily influenced by the anime/action cartoon genre.


Yeah I agree. If Nick adapted and brought some good action Nicktoons during that time, then I'm sure it would've reigned supreme! Like imagine if shows like Avatar and Danny Phantom released a few years earlier, along with possibly acquiring some dubbed anime, then Nick would most definitely kicked ass! Unfortunately by the time they started to experiment with shows like Danny Phantom and Avatar, it was a little too late as the gold rush of anime/action cartoons of the late 90's/early 00's died off by then...

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/10/16 at 2:03 pm


One thing that's really cool about Toonami is way it sort of "bridged the gap" between early Y kids and later Y kids because of it's very broad audience. By 2001-02, most kids my age saw ourselves as being "too old" for Nickelodeon, but we generally had no problem sitting down with our younger brothers in the afternoons and watching DBZ, Gundam Wing, Outlaw Star, or Tenchi. I even remember some seniors at my school (mostly 1983ers and '84ers) that still watched Toonami at that time.

Because it had such a large cross-generational appeal, Toonami does seem to be one common bond that holds a large majority of "Millennial children" together, whether they were born in 1985 or 1995.


My top favorite shows on Toonami were anything DC related, like Justice League, Justice League Unlimited, Batman Beyond, or Teen Titans. Dragon Ball, DBZ, DBGT, Rave Master, Yu Yu Hakusho, Zoids, iGPX, and Naruto were all cool for me too. I wasn't the biggest anime fan, I always treated it like any other regular cartoon. My parents didn't allow me to watch kids shows on the weekdays due to school unless I was on break. So when Toonami was on the weekdays I could only catch it on Fridays, but when SVES or Toonami was on Saturday nights I could always catch it then.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/10/16 at 2:08 pm


In many ways, the Golden Era of Nick from 1991-1998 was to Older Gen Yers born from 1984-1990, what was the Powerhouse Era of CN from 1997-2004 was to Younger Gen Yers born from 1991-1997, with both eras having huge appeals.


I think the main group of people who grew up in CN's golden age would be those born from 1989-1996, with 1992 & 1993 being the ultimate ones. Just from what I've noticed and talked to. Most people born in the late 90's reminisce CN City.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/10/16 at 2:50 pm


I think the main group of people who grew up in CN's golden age would be those born from 1989-1996, with 1992 & 1993 being the ultimate ones. Just from what I've noticed and talked to. Most people born in the late 90's reminisce CN City.


It's pretty accurate, since it was the first era that I experienced watching Cartoon Network.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/10/16 at 3:12 pm

Guess it depends on the era that you spent most of your childhood.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/10/16 at 3:20 pm


Guess it depends on the era that you spent most of your childhood.


Absolutely. Although, I'll might say that I like the City and Yes! eras.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/10/16 at 3:27 pm


Absolutely. Although, I'll might say that I like the City and Yes! eras.

The CN City era was great in my opinion. And it had the best channel bumpers. The Powerhouse era bumpers were mainly just the cartoon characters over a solid colored background. The CN City era bumpers had this Toontown-esque vibe where all the characters live together in a city and interact. The Powerhouse had some moments like these, but it was mainly at a studio (but it was still cool nonetheless). I can't quite remember what the Yes! era was like. After the CN city era ended I stopped watching Cartoon Network for a while (although I would catch Ben 10 alien force, Chowder, and Flapjack whenever they were on) as I was mainly watching Boomerang, Nicktoons, and Toon Disney (oddly enough) during that time.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/10/16 at 4:58 pm


My top favorite shows on Toonami were anything DC related, like Justice League, Justice League Unlimited, Batman Beyond, or Teen Titans. Dragon Ball, DBZ, DBGT, Rave Master, Yu Yu Hakusho, Zoids, iGPX, and Naruto were all cool for me too. I wasn't the biggest anime fan, I always treated it like any other regular cartoon. My parents didn't allow me to watch kids shows on the weekdays due to school unless I was on break. So when Toonami was on the weekdays I could only catch it on Fridays, but when SVES or Toonami was on Saturday nights I could always catch it then.

NOW it makes sense!!! You aren't that big of an otaku(anime fan).. That's probably why you think Toonami didn't decline in the mid 2000s like me. The reason I think Toonami declined in the mid 2000s wasn't just because they moved to Saturdays, but because the animes they were showing were NOWHERE NEAR as good as before! Toonami's golden age(1999-2003) that's what it was all about, with a mix of american action cartoons but mainly an anime fan's dream! To the non anime fans(like yourself) the change wasn't that big, but to me it was baby!

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/10/16 at 5:00 pm


The CN City era was great in my opinion. And it had the best channel bumpers. The Powerhouse era bumpers were mainly just the cartoon characters over a solid colored background. The CN City era bumpers had this Toontown-esque vibe where all the characters live together in a city and interact. The Powerhouse had some moments like these, but it was mainly at a studio (but it was still cool nonetheless). I can't quite remember what the Yes! era was like. After the CN city era ended I stopped watching Cartoon Network for a while (although I would catch Ben 10 alien force, Chowder, and Flapjack whenever they were on) as I was mainly watching Boomerang, Nicktoons, and Toon Disney (oddly enough) during that time.

The first half of City era was pretty good :) , but it was NOTHING compared to the powerhouse era;now that was special!!! :)

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/10/16 at 5:04 pm


The first half of City era was pretty good :) , but it was NOTHING compared to the powerhouse era;now that was special!!! :)


Hey nothing can ever beat the golden age that was the powerhouse era.  8) But the first half of CN City was 2nd best as I did like what was shown at the time.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/10/16 at 5:13 pm


Yeah I agree. If Nick adapted and brought some good action Nicktoons during that time, then I'm sure it would've reigned supreme! Like imagine if shows like Avatar and Danny Phantom released a few years earlier, along with possibly acquiring some dubbed anime, then Nick would most definitely kicked ass! Unfortunately by the time they started to experiment with shows like Danny Phantom and Avatar, it was a little too late as the gold rush of anime/action cartoons of the late 90's/early 00's died off by then...

Yeah, Nick had some good shows during the Y2K era (The Wild Thornberrys, As Told By Ginger, The Brothers Garcia, and Rocket Power were four in particular that I liked) but the problem with Nick during these years is that it just didn't adapt to the changing tastes of the late '90s in the way that Cartoon Network successfully did.

Action cartoons were the dominant force of the Y2K era and Nick (other than perhaps Rocket Power) really just didn't have any shows that fit the prevailing aesthetic that kids were looking for at time. On the other hand, CN, even outside of Toonami, had numerous Cartoon Cartoons like Dexter's Laboratory, The Powerpuff Girls, and Samurai Jack that were heavily influenced by the anime/action cartoon genre.

Yeah!!! Nick and Kids WB were the traditional kids networks and Cartoon Network was the alternative. CN was the cool kids channel, it had mature comdey shows, badass action shows on the weekdays and then late nights Toonami's midnight run and then latter.... ADULT SWIM!!!!!!!

I wish Nick competed with CN, just like Nintendo & SEGA and WWF & WCW! By the time Nick decided to ''get with the times'' and more ''contemporary'' with Teen Nick and Avatar & Danny Phantom, it was too late . ;D

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: SpyroKev on 03/10/16 at 5:38 pm

The lineup of Toonami in 2005 was definitely up there with its past glory years. I actually got into Zach Bell and I recall Yu Yu Hakusho still airing on Cartoon Network in genral during the time you had to catch in the morning at 5:00am. By 2006, Toonami became completely Naruto.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 03/10/16 at 6:37 pm


Yeah!!! Nick and Kids WB were the traditional kids networks and Cartoon Network was the alternative. CN was the cool kids channel, it had mature comdey shows, badass action shows on the weekdays and then late nights Toonami's midnight run and then latter.... ADULT SWIM!!!!!!!

I wish Nick competed with CN, just like Nintendo & SEGA and WWF & WCW! By the time Nick decided to ''get with the times'' and more ''contemporary'' with Teen Nick and Avatar & Danny Phantom, it was too late . ;D


To be fair Nick was pretty damn alternative in the 90's.

While other networks/blocks like Cartoon Network, The Disney Channel, & Fox Kids, were just showing reruns of cartoons from the 50's/60's or newer and more childlike animation (remember in the 80's & early 90's most cartoons's main purpose were to sell toy lines and action figures to market towards kids), shows like Ren & Stimpy, Rugrats, Rocko's Modern Life, & Ahh Real Monsters were VERY Edgy and Grotesque in comparison. This which made the shows very controversial, but appealing of all ages at the same time!

The same could be said with Cartoon Cartoons in the late 90's/early 00's, when Nick & Disney continued to keep their programming safe (for better or for worst) CN took chances and had VERY Edgy & Grotesque cartoons like Cow & Chicken, Powerpuff Girls, Johnny Bravo, & Ed, Edd, n Eddy.

Anyways long live the Golden Age of Nickelodeon:

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And the Golden Age of Cartoon Network:

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Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/10/16 at 7:36 pm


The lineup of Toonami in 2005 was definitely up there with its past glory years. I actually got into Zach Bell and I recall Yu Yu Hakusho still airing on Cartoon Network in genral during the time you had to catch in the morning at 5:00am. By 2006, Toonami became completely Naruto.


THIS!!! Which is why I dazed off Toonami by the second half of 2006. That was the year Teen Titans and Justice League Unlimited ended as well.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Zelek2 on 03/10/16 at 7:41 pm


I wish Nick competed with CN, just like Nintendo & SEGA and WWF & WCW! By the time Nick decided to ''get with the times'' and more ''contemporary'' with Teen Nick and Avatar & Danny Phantom, it was too late . ;D

Tbh, I think that the first season of Danny phantom was the best. It seemed to have the most chill vibe, best plots, most fluid/expressive animation, etc. Around the second half of season 2, the show started getting more annoying and "silly" in tone (apparently this was because the old writers had left). Squandered potential.

Maybe I'm just sounding like Jordan here, since the first season was made around 2002-2003 ;D (but not aired until 2004).

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/10/16 at 7:54 pm


The CN City era was great in my opinion. And it had the best channel bumpers. The Powerhouse era bumpers were mainly just the cartoon characters over a solid colored background. The CN City era bumpers had this Toontown-esque vibe where all the characters live together in a city and interact. The Powerhouse had some moments like these, but it was mainly at a studio (but it was still cool nonetheless). I can't quite remember what the Yes! era was like. After the CN city era ended I stopped watching Cartoon Network for a while (although I would catch Ben 10 alien force, Chowder, and Flapjack whenever they were on) as I was mainly watching Boomerang, Nicktoons, and Toon Disney (oddly enough) during that time.


The most important thing about the channel are the shows and variety. The bumpers are like the outside, but the shows are like the inside of it. The CN City Era was like the prettiest, fittest girl with diamonds and makeup but had a slightly rude and arrogant personality compared to the Powerhouse.

I know many young kids who wish they had grown up with CN City because they look on the outside of it and think it was so great like the best thing ever, but they have no idea how great the Powerhouse Era was when it came to its variety or programming.

One thing I've learned about Cartoon Network or any channel in general, is that it will always be mostly judged by its original programming. I understand how important acquired shows are whether its owned by Warner Bros, Teletoon, Funimation/Japan, or any other company that isn't part of CN Studios, but when you talk to family, friends, or interact with the mainstream pop culture. The original shows always come to mind first. Even new episodes of original shows are always on primetime slots during weeknights or Friday nights when a lot of viewers have their TV's on, but new episodes of acquired shows are usually put on afternoons, random Saturdays, Sundays, or time slots that aren't that affordable to everybody when less viewers are watching.

I think the CN City/Yes biggest weakness looking back at the era, despite how much variety it still had compared to later eras, was that its original programming was the weakest in Cartoon Network history. Years later (today), people still remember and talk about how great Dexter's Laboratory, The Powerpuff Girls, Ed Edd n Eddy, Johnny Bravo, and Courage the Cowardly Dog were. Heck, even Cartoon Cartoons that carried over the City Era like Codename: KND and Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy ended up being more memorable than over half of the CN City shows. Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends and Ben 10 were the only CN originals from the City Era that were popular, and from what I remember Foster's Home had the biggest representation at the time. The rest of the shows that debuted during CN City/Yes ended up being forgettable. The current original shows on CN now, like Regular Show, Adventure Time, Steven Universe, Clarence, or Uncle Grandpa will be remembered by the kids of today and the mainstream years from now, and CN's original programming since 2010 has been the best popularity since the Cartoon Cartoons era.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/10/16 at 8:17 pm


To be fair Nick was pretty damn alternative in the 90's.

While other networks/blocks like Cartoon Network, The Disney Channel, & Fox Kids, were just showing reruns of cartoons from the 50's/60's or newer and more childlike animation (remember in the 80's & early 90's most cartoons's main purpose were to sell toy lines and action figures to market towards kids), shows like Ren & Stimpy, Rugrats, Rocko's Modern Life, & Ahh Real Monsters were VERY Edgy and Grotesque in comparison. This which made the shows very controversial, but appealing of all ages at the same time!

The same could be said with Cartoon Cartoons in the late 90's/early 00's, when Nick & Disney continued to keep their programming safe (for better or for worst) CN took chances and had VERY Edgy & Grotesque cartoons like Cow & Chicken, Powerpuff Girls, Johnny Bravo, & Ed, Edd, n Eddy.


Yeah I know Nick was contemporary during it's golden age in the 90s. But I wonder why did they get more lighter in programming in the very late 90s/ early 00s, when CN was beginning to put out a contemporary product?

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/10/16 at 8:20 pm


Tbh, I think that the first season of Danny phantom was the best. It seemed to have the most chill vibe, best plots, most fluid/expressive animation, etc. Around the second half of season 2, the show started getting more annoying and "silly" in tone (apparently this was because the old writers had left). Squandered potential.

Maybe I'm just sounding like Jordan here, since the first season was made around 2002-2003 ;D (but not aired until 2004).

Yeah I read Executive producers; Steve Marmel and Marty Isenberg left after season 2

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 03/10/16 at 8:57 pm


Yeah I know Nick was contemporary during it's golden age in the 90s. But I wonder why did they get more lighter in programming in the very late 90s/ early 00s, when CN was beginning to put out a contemporary product?


I think they just got too cocky and felt like they didn't need to change. FWIW they were still relatively well off for much of the early 00's, but nowhere near as golden as they were in the 90's, hence them being in a Silver Age from 1998-2004 (aka Klasky Csupo Era). The same could be said with CN, they were still good from 2004-2006, but nowhere near they were in the Late 90's/Early 00's. Unfortunately many channels have that fate where they think they're unstoppable.

Ironically though Disney Channel's Golden Age is much harder to pin out. Some could argue that they were at their pinnacle peak in the 80's & 90's when they were a premium channel dedicated to Disney Movie Reruns and Mickey Mouse Shorts. However they didn't start to rise to prominence until the late 90's when their classic live action shows & DCOMS emerged and subsequently becoming a basic cable channel.

For me personally though I lean more towards the latte era with the Golden Age being from 1997-2005, when they had an equal balance of GOOD live action shows like Even Stevens and Lizzie McGuire, cartoons like Recess and Kim Possible, and classic DCOMS from 1996-2003/4 like Halloween Town and Brink.

Although I know many older members on this forum may disagree with me ;D

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/10/16 at 9:11 pm


I think they just got too cocky and felt like they didn't need to change. FWIW they were still relatively well off for much of the early 00's, but nowhere near as golden as they were in the 90's, hence them being in a Silver Age from 1998-2004 (aka Klasky Csupo Era). The same could be said with CN, they were still good from 2004-2006, but nowhere near they were in the Late 90's/Early 00's. Unfortunately many channels have that fate where they think they're unstoppable.

Ironically though Disney Channel's Golden Age is much harder to pin out. Some could argue that they were at their pinnacle peak in the 80's & 90's when they were a premium channel dedicated to Disney Movie Reruns and Mickey Mouse Shorts. However they didn't start to rise to prominence until the late 90's when their classic live action shows & DCOMS emerged and subsequently becoming a basic cable channel.

For me personally though I lean more towards the latte era with the Golden Age being from 1997-2005, when they had an equal balance of GOOD live action shows like Even Stevens and Lizzie McGuire, cartoons like Recess and Kim Possible, and classic DCOMS from 1996-2003/4 like Halloween Town and Brink.

Although I know many older members on this forum may disagree with me ;D


For Disney Channel the Golden Age to me is whenever Zoog Disney began which 1997. I was never interested in Disney channel of the 1980s-most of the 1990s. Heck whenever I see nostalgia memes or discussions not many people actually talk about Disney Channel of the 1980s-1990s (maybe they do and I'm just not seeing it). And I don't even know what Disney Channel was like before Zoog Disney of oddly enough. Everyone can tell me what Cartoon Network and Nick were like, but not Disney Channel for some reason. Any Pre-Hanna Montana year (2006) is Golden Age to me. Before that we there was The Famous Jett Jackson, Life with Derek, Even stevens, Phil of the Future, That's So Raven, Lizzie Mcquire, Suite Life of Zack & Cody, Kim Possible, Proud Family etc. From 2006 and after there was Wizards of Waverly Place, Sonny with a Chance, Jonas, Shake it up, ANT Farm, Jessie, Fish Hooks etc. So me I'd say the the golden age is from 1997-2005.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 03/10/16 at 9:14 pm


For Disney Channel the Golden Age to me is whenever Zoog Disney began which 1997. I was never interested in Disney channel of the 1980s-most of the 1990s. Heck whenever I see nostalgia memes or discussions not many people actually talk about Disney Channel of the 1980s-1990s (maybe they do and I'm just not seeing it). Any Pre-Hanna Montana year (2006) is Golden Age to me. Before that we there was The Famous Jett Jackson, Life with Derek, Even stevens, Phil of the Future, That's So Raven, Lizzie Mcquire, Suite Life of Zack & Cody etc, Kim Possible, Proud Family,. From 2006 and after there was Wizards of Waverly Place, Sonny with a Chance, Jonas, Shake it up, ANT Farm, Jessie, Fish Hooks etc. So me me I'd say the the golden age is from 1997-2005.


Yeah I agree! Yeah its weird how The Disney Channel of the 80's-Early-Mid 90's doesn't seem to get much attention. I'm not too sure how to think of that, but eh whatever lol.

Zoog Disney was pretty bad ass! I started regularly watching Disney Channel in late 2001, so towards Zoog's end, but it was pretty awesome!

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/10/16 at 9:33 pm


Yeah I agree! Yeah its weird how The Disney Channel of the 80's-Early-Mid 90's doesn't seem to get much attention. I'm not too sure how to think of that, but eh whatever lol.

Zoog Disney was pretty bad ass! I started regularly watching Disney Channel in late 2001, so towards Zoog's end, but it was pretty awesome!


2005 was the best year for Disney Channel IMO, because we had That's So Raven (season 3) airing throughout the year, Suite Life of Zack & Cody (season 1), Phil of the Future (season 2), Kim Possible So the Drama, The Proud Family Movie, Brandy & Mr. Whiskers, Dave the Barbarian (reruns), American Dragon Jake Long (season 1), Lilo & Stitch: the Series, Brandy & Mr. Whiskers, Life With Derek, and despite being ended, reruns of Lizzie McGuire, Even Stevens, and Disney's House of Mouse were still played sparingly for one more year. 2005 was the year Disney Channel had a full balance of my favorite sitcoms and cartoons all at once premiering new episodes when it was good. Late 2002-2003 was more of a transitional period for Disney Channel while 2004 still didn't have all of my favorite shows at once yet even though it was already good by then. I only remember glimpses of Zoog Disney from 2001-2002 since throughout K and 1st grade I mostly watched Cartoon Network only, and Toon Disney & Nickelodeon sometimes. When I discovered That's So Raven in summer 2003 that's the first time I really got hooked into a live-action sitcom which is when I started keeping up with Disney Channel on a weekly basis.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/10/16 at 10:40 pm


Tbh, I think that the first season of Danny phantom was the best. It seemed to have the most chill vibe, best plots, most fluid/expressive animation, etc. Around the second half of season 2, the show started getting more annoying and "silly" in tone (apparently this was because the old writers had left). Squandered potential.

Maybe I'm just sounding like Jordan here, since the first season was made around 2002-2003 ;D (but not aired until 2004).


You're right, Zelek. I stopped watching Nick (for the most part) around the mid 90's, save a few shows, but Danny Phantom is a show I watched a bit of and around the second season is where it sorta fell off and it became for like a real 00's show. You're learning well; soon you'll be saying "everything sucks after 2003-2004" just like me. ;)

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Zelek2 on 03/10/16 at 10:49 pm


You're right, Zelek. I stopped watching Nick (for the most part) around the mid 90's, save a few shows,

Did you think they were going downhill, or did you just get bored of them?

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/10/16 at 10:54 pm


Did you think they were going downhill, or did you just get bored of them?


Bored. Cartoon Network had shows like Johnny Bravo and Dexter's to keep me interested but I just lost interest in Nick. The shows got stale around 1995.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Zelek2 on 03/10/16 at 10:54 pm


Danny Phantom is a show I watched a bit of and around the second season is where it sorta fell off and it became for like a real 00's show. You're learning well; soon you'll be saying "everything sucks after 2003-2004" just like me. ;)

Another show I think went downhill in 2005 is Family Guy.

When the show ended in 2003 (last of the Y2K era), it was generally sharp-humored with only a few misses. But when the show came back during the "real 00s", it seemed to have lost its footing, with incredibly stilted and awkward humor.

Damn, you might have me rethink my 2000-2005 stance. ;D

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/10/16 at 11:07 pm


Another show I think went downhill in 2005 is Family Guy.

When the show ended in 2003 (last of the Y2K era), it was generally sharp-humored with only a few misses. But when the show came back during the "real 00s", it seemed to have lost its footing, with incredibly stilted and awkward humor.

Damn, you might have me rethink my 2000-2005 stance. ;D


That's true. I was never really a big Family Guy fan but per-cancellation (2003, the last good year), it wasn't too bad. Good jokes here and there and not much filler. 2005-present has some of the worst attempts at humor I've ever seen and most shows around this time followed suit.

Haha, I told ya! 2000-2003 4 lyfe. ;)

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/11/16 at 12:28 am


2005 was the best year for Disney Channel IMO, because we had That's So Raven (season 3) airing throughout the year, Suite Life of Zack & Cody (season 1), Phil of the Future (season 2), Kim Possible So the Drama, The Proud Family Movie, Brandy & Mr. Whiskers, Dave the Barbarian (reruns), American Dragon Jake Long (season 1), Lilo & Stitch: the Series, Brandy & Mr. Whiskers, Life With Derek, and despite being ended, reruns of Lizzie McGuire, Even Stevens, and Disney's House of Mouse were still played sparingly for one more year. 2005 was the year Disney Channel had a full balance of my favorite sitcoms and cartoons all at once premiering new episodes when it was good. Late 2002-2003 was more of a transitional period for Disney Channel while 2004 still didn't have all of my favorite shows at once yet even though it was already good by then. I only remember glimpses of Zoog Disney from 2001-2002 since throughout K and 1st grade I mostly watched Cartoon Network only, and Toon Disney & Nickelodeon sometimes. When I discovered That's So Raven in summer 2003 that's the first time I really got hooked into a live-action sitcom which is when I started keeping up with Disney Channel on a weekly basis.

Disney Channel's BEST year was probably 2003...; well for me it was! ;)  Maybe if you had watched DC earlier you would agree! ;D  2005 was also really good too. But I  even think 2004 was better than 2005 was.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/11/16 at 12:32 am

I'll cheat and say 1997-2002 was the first golden age and 2002-2005 was the second.
But their eras are WEIRD!!! :o :D  2002-03 school year was transitional for the channel cause they abandoned the zoog look and became even less tradtional disney and fully became the teeny bopper kids network. At least zoog had the disney vault showing zoro and classic Disney, while showing the teen stuff. 2002-03 they went FULL ON teen!

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/11/16 at 12:36 am

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Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/11/16 at 12:43 am


I'll cheat and say 1997-2002 was the first golden age and 2002-2005 was the second.
But their eras are WEIRD!!! :o :D  2002-03 school year was transitional for the channel cause they abandoned the zoog look and became even less tradtional disney and fully became the teeny bopper kids network. At least zoog had the disney vault showing zoro and classic Disney, while showing the teen stuff. 2002-03 they went FULL ON teen!

Wonder why'd they decide to mainly focus on teens and not kids as well (unless Toon Disney was made specifically for kids).

Also some nostalgia. 8)
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Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/11/16 at 12:57 am


Disney Channel's BEST year was probably 2003...; well for me it was! ;)  Maybe if you had watched DC earlier you would agree! ;D  2005 was also really good too. But I  even think 2004 was better than 2005 was.


I remember watching Disney Channel in 2003 (I already stated that's the year or summer I got into it on a weekly basis) and I still don't think it was the best year. Not because of how good or bad the shows were, but That's So Raven was still new, Kim Possible was still young, Lilo & Stitch was just getting started, Even Stevens was still there despite ending, Proud Family was around of course. Sister Sister and Smart Guy reruns were cool. I never cared for Lizzie McGuire.

The problem with 2003 was that you didn't have Phil of the Future, Life With Derek, Dave the Barbarian, American Dragon Jake Long, or Suite Life of Zack & Cody yet, which is why I think 2005 was the peak of Disney Channel because you had all of the good sitcoms and cartoons along with reruns all at once in their perfect seasons but at the same time you didn't have Hannah Montana yet. 2005 Disney Channel had the most balanced lineups IMO. Even season 3 of That's So Raven which aired throughout late 2004 through 2005 had the most views of the entire series, which had the highest viewed premiere episode "Country Cousins" and I remember like yesterday when it premiered.

2003 still being an early 2000's year and not a mid 2000's year yet had nothing to due with Disney Channel's success. The way I feel about 2005 Disney Channel is how I feel about 2002 or even 2003 Cartoon Network, because by 2002 Cartoon Network pretty much had every original Cartoon Cartoon, classic, and action show you could think of that fit on the channel all at once throughout the entire year. 2005 or 2006 Cartoon Network did not have all of my favorite shows at once anymore. 2002 & 2003 Disney Channel did not have all of my favorite shows at once yet.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/11/16 at 1:03 am


Wonder why'd they decide to mainly focus on teens and not kids as well (unless Toon Disney was made specifically for kids).

Also some nostalgia. 8)
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Reminded me of flipping back in forth between DC, Toonami, and Nick's Slime Time! :D :D :D :D

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/11/16 at 1:09 am


I remember watching Disney Channel in 2003 (I already stated that's the year or summer I got into it on a weekly basis) and I still don't think it was the best year. Not because of how good or bad the shows were, but That's So Raven was still new, Kim Possible was still young, Lilo & Stitch was just getting started, Even Stevens was still there despite ending, Proud Family was around of course. Sister Sister and Smart Guy reruns were cool. I never cared for Lizzie McGuire.

The problem with 2003 was that you didn't have Phil of the Future, Life With Derek, Dave the Barbarian, American Dragon Jake Long, or Suite Life of Zack & Cody yet, which is why I think 2005 was the peak of Disney Channel because you had all of the good sitcoms and cartoons along with reruns all at once in their perfect seasons but at the same time you didn't have Hannah Montana yet. 2005 Disney Channel had the most balanced lineups IMO. Even season 3 of That's So Raven which aired throughout late 2004 through 2005 had the most views of the entire series, which had the highest viewed premiere episode "Country Cousins" and I remember like yesterday when it premiered.

Yeah I remember when it was like yesterday too! :D  But still 2004 was my favorite Raven year!
That's the thing I liked, Phil of the Future and Life with Derek... but I thought they were NOWHERE NEAR as good as Even Stevens and Lizzie McGuire, Dave the Barbarian was okay....., and Jake Long was a BADASS show! But in 2003 had everything I needed from Disney Channel a good mix of Original movies, Zoog Disney shows and Early Modern era shows(Raven, Kim Possible, Lilo& Stitch, Proud Family) were ALL showing. As a Zoog and early modern era fan, it supplied my needs! Come on, as a kid that was SPECIAL!

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 03/11/16 at 1:58 am


Yeah I agree! Yeah its weird how The Disney Channel of the 80's-Early-Mid 90's doesn't seem to get much attention. I'm not too sure how to think of that, but eh whatever lol.

Zoog Disney was pretty bad ass! I started regularly watching Disney Channel in late 2001, so towards Zoog's end, but it was pretty awesome!


I think the reason you don't hear that much talk about pre-late '90s Disney Channel is that not very many kids actually had the channel back then because it was premium. I know my parents would've laughed me out of the room if I'd even suggested paying a monthly fee just to buy one channel. We didn't finally get Disney on our basic cable package until 1996, which was towards the end of the "old-school" era.

Another reason you might not hear much about it is because of just how radically different the old-school Disney Channel was from what everybody remembers even as far back as 1999/2000. It might as well have been an entirely different network. Before the Zoog era came along, The Disney Channel's entire lineup consisted mostly of classic Mickey Mouse cartoons, Disney Afternoon originals like Darkwing Duck or Tailspin, and old movies from the '60s.

I think this video does a really good job of illustrating just different Disney was back in the old days:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvBQQVTuqTI

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/11/16 at 6:08 am


I think the reason you don't hear that much talk about pre-late '90s Disney Channel is that not very many kids actually had the channel back then because it was premium. I know my parents would've laughed me out of the room if I'd even suggested paying a monthly fee just to buy one channel. We didn't finally get Disney on our basic cable package until 1996, which was towards the end of the "old-school" era.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvBQQVTuqTI


This is what I meant to explain as well. My parents somehow got Disney Channel in 1998, but in general Disney Channel didn't become a basic cable channel along with Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network until late 2002 when Zoog Disney ended and it rebranded into just plain "Disney Channel", so from mid 2002 and earlier it was a lot more difficult for people to get it because it was a premium channel, and the same went for Toon Disney as well but Toon Disney was pretty much digital cable the whole time it existed. I remember a lot of guys in school near my age or older who said they did not watch Disney Channel growing up because they either couldn't afford it or some people considered it as the "rich kids" channel lol! Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network were always the most memorable by most people, especially guys like myself. I watched Cartoon Network the most growing up.

Anyways, it's a huge factor why Disney Channel's height in popularity by most people are considered to be from late 2002-2006 because that's when most people's homes started affording it with a full balance of sitcoms and cartoons, although, my favorite years of the network were 2002-2005 with 2005 being the peak. It's funny how the big 3 kid channels always went in a pattern when it became available on basic cable. Nickelodeon peaked in popularity around the early to mid 90's, Cartoon Network peaked in popularity around the late 90's to early 2000's, and Disney Channel peaked in popularity throughout the mid 2000's.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/11/16 at 6:26 am


Yeah I remember when it was like yesterday too! :D  But still 2004 was my favorite Raven year!
That's the thing I liked, Phil of the Future and Life with Derek... but I thought they were NOWHERE NEAR as good as Even Stevens and Lizzie McGuire, Dave the Barbarian was okay....., and Jake Long was a BADASS show! But in 2003 had everything I needed from Disney Channel a good mix of Original movies, Zoog Disney shows and Early Modern era shows(Raven, Kim Possible, Lilo& Stitch, Proud Family) were ALL showing. As a Zoog and early modern era fan, it supplied my needs! Come on, as a kid that was SPECIAL!


Once again, thanks to That's So Raven my opinion on live-action sitcoms changed my perspective of watching kid shows for awhile. Throughout Kindergarten and 1st grade I was a cartoon watcher only, live-action shows used to bore me to death then. I vaguely remember watching the Life Size movie and a Lizzie McGuire episode on Zoog Disney in 2001 at my cousins house and I fell to sleep quickly and didn't understand a thing that was going on. That's So Raven impacted me with the lessons it taught and the morals because it was the first live-action sitcom I could really understand what was going on and I always laughed and thought the jokes were funny, and Even Stevens felt like an epic adventure with two brothers and one sister. It had a family type feel to it.

I can agree with your opinion on Even Stevens debatably being better than Phil of the Future and Life With Derek, but I find Lizzie McGuire to be a little overrated, it was not that special IMO, it was too girly for my tastes and it bored me at the time. When I was that young of an age I didn't care about how middle school or high school life was gonna be like. I think the cartoon character that represented Lizzie's mind was the only thing that appealed to me lol. Shows like That's So Raven, Even Stevens, Phil of the Future, Suite Life of Zack & Cody, Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide, and Drake & Josh felt more diverse to me which was key IMO. Heck I didn't even find shows like Zoey 101 or Unfabulous appealing to me either. I ended up having a similar problem with Hannah Montana once it premiered, too girly for my tastes except the plot and story-line was 100000x worse, and the same formula has happened with pretty much every other Disney Channel show ever since.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/11/16 at 8:03 am


I think the reason you don't hear that much talk about pre-late '90s Disney Channel is that not very many kids actually had the channel back then because it was premium. I know my parents would've laughed me out of the room if I'd even suggested paying a monthly fee just to buy one channel. We didn't finally get Disney on our basic cable package until 1996, which was towards the end of the "old-school" era.

Another reason you might not hear much about it is because of just how radically different the old-school Disney Channel was from what everybody remembers even as far back as 1999/2000. It might as well have been an entirely different network. Before the Zoog era came along, The Disney Channel's entire lineup consisted mostly of classic Mickey Mouse cartoons, Disney Afternoon originals like Darkwing Duck or Tailspin, and old movies from the '60s.

I think this video does a really good job of illustrating just different Disney was back in the old days:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvBQQVTuqTI


Sounds pretty much like Toon Disney between 1998-2004. It aired nearly all of Disney's movies (the very first thing to air was Sorcerers' Apprentice which is from 1940), all the Disney Afternoon shows, all the Disney One Saturday Morning shows, and the Classic Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck Cartoons, and a bunch of syndicated shows like Adventures of Sonic the HEdgehog , Cowboys of Moo Mesa , or The Littles. But all that changed when the fire nation attacked when Jetix became 50% of Toon Disney in late '04.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: SpyroKev on 03/11/16 at 9:14 am

I was one of the people that had Disney Channel and Toon Disney in the Late 90s. I completely enjoyed Dinosaurs, The classic Mickey Mouse cartoons, Jeff Corwin and the Cleopatra Comin' Atcha theme song. I remember seeing a Disney commercial from then where you could win golden goggles I still think no one won. Haha After the classic Disney cartoons, Zorro would mysteriously air as I would instantly cut the network from there. I recall giving the show a chance through. From my experience, the channel was just as great with those few shows alone. Aside from Aladdin, Timon & Pumbaa, Gargoyles and Quack Pack, I could not for the life connect with purely Disney cartoons. I liked the Goof Troop intro, but something about the shows I didn't like. Warner Bros and Cartoon Network instantly filled the void for me. I know I'm not the only person who feels this way towards purely Disney originals.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/11/16 at 10:04 am


I was one of the people that had Disney Channel and Toon Disney in the Late 90s. I completely enjoyed Dinosaurs, The classic Mickey Mouse cartoons, Jeff Corwin and the Cleopatra Comin' Atcha theme song. I remember seeing a Disney commercial from then where you could win golden goggles I still think no one won. Haha After the classic Disney cartoons, Zorro would mysteriously air as I would instantly cut the network from there. I recall giving the show a chance through. From my experience, the channel was just as great with those few shows alone. Aside from Aladdin, Timon & Pumbaa, Gargoyles and Quack Pack, I could not for the life connect with purely Disney cartoons. I liked the Goof Troop intro, but something about the shows I didn't like. Warner Bros and Cartoon Network instantly filled the void for me. I know I'm not the only person who feels this way towards purely Disney originals.


I'm a crazy Disney nut so anything Disney I'd enjoy, but yes there are certain things that makes me enjoy the Warner Bros, Nick, and Cartoon Network shows over the Disney shows. When it came to the Disney Afternoon I actually didn't like shows like Talespin, Timon and Pumbaa, Goof Troop, Gummi Bears, Mighty Ducks and Quckpack. Talespin was a bit boring to me. Tim and Pumbaa was kind of weird. Goof Troop didn't have the nice magical adventure vibe that the first few Disney afternoon shows had as it was mainly just Goofy characters living in then-modern day which was a let down to me. Gummi Bears was sort of stupid to me. Quackpack is a mix of Ducktales and Goof Troop as it has the Ducktales characters, but the whole modern/"cool" vibe that Goof Troops was trying to have which also made it boring (plus I hated Huey, Dewey, and Louie in that show). And don't get me started on how much I had Mighty Ducks. I like the Disney Afternoon shows, but looking back I find myself not really going back to watch most of the shows. People will disagree with me but hey that's fine.

The Nick, Cartoon Network, and WB cartoons like Dexter's Lab, Danny Phantom, Static Shock, Justice League, Ed Edd n Eddy and many other shows are much more appealing to me for some reason.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 03/11/16 at 10:28 am


I'll cheat and say 1997-2002 was the first golden age and 2002-2005 was the second.
But their eras are WEIRD!!! :o :D  2002-03 school year was transitional for the channel cause they abandoned the zoog look and became even less tradtional disney and fully became the teeny bopper kids network. At least zoog had the disney vault showing zoro and classic Disney, while showing the teen stuff. 2002-03 they went FULL ON teen!


Yeah I agree with this! Zoog Disney was the quintessential Early 00's Disney Experience while the Semi-Modern Era from 2002-2005 was the quintessential Mid 00's Disney Experience. Regardless I had a good time within both eras 8)



Wonder why'd they decide to mainly focus on teens and not kids as well (unless Toon Disney was made specifically for kids).

Also some nostalgia. 8)
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Yeah I started watching the Big 3 when I got cable in Late 2001. Thanks for the nostalgia trip!



I think the reason you don't hear that much talk about pre-late '90s Disney Channel is that not very many kids actually had the channel back then because it was premium. I know my parents would've laughed me out of the room if I'd even suggested paying a monthly fee just to buy one channel. We didn't finally get Disney on our basic cable package until 1996, which was towards the end of the "old-school" era.

Another reason you might not hear much about it is because of just how radically different the old-school Disney Channel was from what everybody remembers even as far back as 1999/2000. It might as well have been an entirely different network. Before the Zoog era came along, The Disney Channel's entire lineup consisted mostly of classic Mickey Mouse cartoons, Disney Afternoon originals like Darkwing Duck or Tailspin, and old movies from the '60s.

I think this video does a really good job of illustrating just different Disney was back in the old days:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvBQQVTuqTI


I'm not gonna lie, this actually looks pretty cool. Although I do get where your coming from, its a darn shame the channel wasn't a premium channel back then. Perhaps it could've been much more popular and had a wider fanbase!



Once again, thanks to That's So Raven my opinion on live-action sitcoms changed my perspective of watching kid shows for awhile. Throughout Kindergarten and 1st grade I was a cartoon watcher only, live-action shows used to bore me to death then. I vaguely remember watching the Life Size movie and a Lizzie McGuire episode on Zoog Disney in 2001 at my cousins house and I fell to sleep quickly and didn't understand a thing that was going on. That's So Raven impacted me with the lessons it taught and the morals because it was the first live-action sitcom I could really understand what was going on and I always laughed and thought the jokes were funny, and Even Stevens felt like an epic adventure with two brothers and one sister. It had a family type feel to it.

I can agree with your opinion on Even Stevens debatably being better than Phil of the Future and Life With Derek, but I find Lizzie McGuire to be a little overrated, it was not that special IMO, it was too girly for my tastes and it bored me at the time. When I was that young of an age I didn't care about how middle school or high school life was gonna be like. I think the cartoon character that represented Lizzie's mind was the only thing that appealed to me lol. Shows like That's So Raven, Even Stevens, Phil of the Future, Suite Life of Zack & Cody, Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide, and Drake & Josh felt more diverse to me which was key IMO. Heck I didn't even find shows like Zoey 101 or Unfabulous appealing to me either. I ended up having a similar problem with Hannah Montana once it premiered, too girly for my tastes except the plot and story-line was 100000x worse, and the same formula has happened with pretty much every other Disney Channel show ever since.


I think the reason why shows like Lizzie McGuire and That's So Raven were appealing were because the characters felt like real people. They weren't over the top stereotypes like many of the sitcoms of today, but just seemed like realistic tween/young teens. Now to be fair, I will admit Lizzie McGuire was VERY girly, but in all honesty it was a guilty pleasure of mine when I was a kid. In fact it was the character Gordo that I related to the most, no being incredibly popular, pretty shy & awkward, and overall down to earth. Shows like Lizzie, That's So Raven, and Even Stevens were more relatable to me growing up, with a mixture of comedy and realism which I liked. Hence why I wasn't a huge fan of the live action shows made after 2005...



Sounds pretty much like Toon Disney between 1998-2004. It aired nearly all of Disney's movies (the very first thing to air was Sorcerers' Apprentice which is from 1940), all the Disney Afternoon shows, all the Disney One Saturday Morning shows, and the Classic Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck Cartoons, and a bunch of syndicated shows like Adventures of Sonic the HEdgehog , Cowboys of Moo Mesa , or The Littles. But all that changed when the fire nation attacked when Jetix became 50% of Toon Disney in late '04.


Yeah that's what I was thinking. It was basically the 90's Disney Channel but on (at least for me) a basic cable package. I think that's why I loved the channel as a kid 8)



I was one of the people that had Disney Channel and Toon Disney in the Late 90s. I completely enjoyed Dinosaurs, The classic Mickey Mouse cartoons, Jeff Corwin and the Cleopatra Comin' Atcha theme song. I remember seeing a Disney commercial from then where you could win golden goggles I still think no one won. Haha After the classic Disney cartoons, Zorro would mysteriously air as I would instantly cut the network from there. I recall giving the show a chance through. From my experience, the channel was just as great with those few shows alone. Aside from Aladdin, Timon & Pumbaa, Gargoyles and Quack Pack, I could not for the life connect with purely Disney cartoons. I liked the Goof Troop intro, but something about the shows I didn't like. Warner Bros and Cartoon Network instantly filled the void for me. I know I'm not the only person who feels this way towards purely Disney originals.


I think it depends for me. I personally liked all of the original Disney Afternoon Cartoons from the late 80's/early 90's like Gummy Bears, Ducktales, Chip n Dale, Goof Troop, Darkwing Duck, Talespin, etc. However alot of the mid 90's Disney Afternoon toons were pretty bland and unforgettable IMO. The only ones from the mid 90's I liked was Gargoyles, Aladdin, and Timon & Pumba. So when watching Toon Disney back in the day it was most likely for the older Disney Afternoon toons, The One Saturday Morning Toons, and the Big Movie Show every friday night!

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 03/11/16 at 10:31 am

For you Disney Afternoon and Toon Disney Fans out there, this is a pretty insightful video about the history of the 90's animated classics!

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Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/11/16 at 10:40 am


For you Disney Afternoon and Toon Disney Fans out there, this is a pretty insightful video about the history of the 90's animated classics!

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Does go into the history as it mostly just talks about the shows, but a fine video nonetheless. I find it interesting that a lot of people think the block went downhill since Goof Troop in 1992.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/11/16 at 11:05 am


I think the reason why shows like Lizzie McGuire and That's So Raven were appealing were because the characters felt like real people. They weren't over the top stereotypes like many of the sitcoms of today, but just seemed like realistic tween/young teens. Now to be fair, I will admit Lizzie McGuire was VERY girly, but in all honesty it was a guilty pleasure of mine when I was a kid. In fact it was the character Gordo that I related to the most, no being incredibly popular, pretty shy & awkward, and overall down to earth. Shows like Lizzie, That's So Raven, and Even Stevens were more relatable to me growing up, with a mixture of comedy and realism which I liked. Hence why I wasn't a huge fan of the live action shows made after 2005...


You make a good point there about Lizzie McGuire even though I wasn't into it. You're right about the characters feeling like real people back then, which is why I stated that the shows had a mixture of comedy and teaching life lessons in there. I guess the culture and family/friend vibe of That's So Raven and Even Stevens related to me more as a kid. While Phil of the Future and Suite Life of Zack & Cody had a fun adventurous feel to it with futuristic gadgets or doing whatever the hell you want in a hotel. I wasn't a fan of any live-action shows that debuted after 2005 either. iCarly was the only decent sitcom from the time even though I wasn't into it of course. I was surprised a lot of people were into Good Luck Charlie or Victorious though.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/11/16 at 11:42 am


I think the reason you don't hear that much talk about pre-late '90s Disney Channel is that not very many kids actually had the channel back then because it was premium. I know my parents would've laughed me out of the room if I'd even suggested paying a monthly fee just to buy one channel. We didn't finally get Disney on our basic cable package until 1996, which was towards the end of the "old-school" era.

Another reason you might not hear much about it is because of just how radically different the old-school Disney Channel was from what everybody remembers even as far back as 1999/2000. It might as well have been an entirely different network. Before the Zoog era came along, The Disney Channel's entire lineup consisted mostly of classic Mickey Mouse cartoons, Disney Afternoon originals like Darkwing Duck or Tailspin, and old movies from the '60s.



That kind of programming sounds like a nostalgia channel like Boomerang, Nicktoons, or early Toon Disney. Except that it wasn't memorable in the slightest. Just saying.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/11/16 at 4:04 pm

These were the best things about 2001!! :D :D :D :D
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Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/11/16 at 4:13 pm

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Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 03/11/16 at 9:32 pm


Does go into the history as it mostly just talks about the shows, but a fine video nonetheless. I find it interesting that a lot of people think the block went downhill since Goof Troop in 1992.


Which is something I would vehemently disagree with, as Goof Troop was one of my favorite Disney shows growing up.


That kind of programming sounds like a nostalgia channel like Boomerang, Nicktoons, or early Toon Disney. Except that it wasn't memorable in the slightest. Just saying.


Actually, yes, that's mostly was The Disney Channel was before 1997 or so. Disney wasn't really a full-fledged "kids network" until after the Zoog era began. Before that point, it was actually aimed programming wise just as much at parents who grew up back in the '50s and '60s as it was at kids.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Zelek2 on 03/11/16 at 9:48 pm

Hey Eazy-EMAN. Since you've found so many clips of VHS openings, previews, etc., can you help me find one?

On 90s Nickelodeon tapes, I remember there being a preview for Charlie Brown on VHS. It had children and parents talking about how much they love the show, interspersed with clips from the show, and with the signature jazz music playing in the background. I remember thinking this was a really charming preview, but I haven't been able to find it for years.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 03/11/16 at 9:57 pm


Does go into the history as it mostly just talks about the shows, but a fine video nonetheless. I find it interesting that a lot of people think the block went downhill since Goof Troop in 1992.


Yeah its one of my favorite recent Nostalgia Crtitc videos! A great dose of nostalgia and good info



These were the best things about 2001!! :D :D :D :D
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Damn those commercials take me back :D :D :D

Right when my childhood truly started to take off, thanks bro :)



Which is something I would vehemently disagree with, as Goof Troop was one of my favorite Disney shows growing up.

Actually, yes, that's mostly was The Disney Channel was before 1997 or so. Disney wasn't really a full-fledged "kids network" until after the Zoog era began. Before that point, it was actually aimed programming wise just as much at parents who grew up back in the '50s and '60s as it was at kids.


Yeah I agree that Goof Troop was a pretty good show! However the rest of the mid 90's shows he mentioned (with the exception of Aladdin and Gargoyles) were pretty forgettable...

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Zelek2 on 03/11/16 at 9:59 pm

Hey ocarinafan, since you're a fan of Pokemon, can you respond to my 20th anniversary thread on the 90s forum?

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/11/16 at 10:01 pm


Actually, yes, that's mostly was The Disney Channel was before 1997 or so. Disney wasn't really a full-fledged "kids network" until after the Zoog era began. Before that point, it was actually aimed programming wise just as much at parents who grew up back in the '50s and '60s as it was at kids.


They possibly made it into a basic-cable network because of that.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 03/11/16 at 10:31 pm


Hey ocarinafan, since you're a fan of Pokemon, can you respond to my 20th anniversary thread on the 90s forum?


Sure!

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/12/16 at 8:59 pm

The Fairly Odd Parents started airing that year, still one of my favourite cartoons to this day. Even the recent episodes are very decent!

And which early 2000s kid can forget this song?! It's Chris Kirkpatrick from NSYNC singing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcQeeWmgrE4

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: ocarinafan96 on 03/12/16 at 9:11 pm


The Fairly Odd Parents started airing that year, still one of my favourite cartoons to this day. Even the recent episodes are very decent!

And which early 2000s kid can forget this song?! It's Chris Kirkpatrick from NSYNC singing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcQeeWmgrE4


Damn seriously I would of never guessed :o

Also yeah Chris Skylark is the embodiment of Cheesy Y2K Era Boybands/Boy Stars. 'Icky Vicky'

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/12/16 at 9:17 pm

AMAZING and BADASS  at the same time! When I think of Toonami's heyday and disney during this time, these videos define it!
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Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 03/12/16 at 9:19 pm


Damn seriously I would of never guessed :o

Also yeah Chris Skylark is the embodiment of Cheesy Y2K Era Boybands/Boy Stars. 'Icky Vicky'


LMAO! We had a business studies teacher in Grade 10 and she told us to go by her first name "Victoria". She was so mean to us, and we'd sing that song when she wasn't around  ;D

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/12/16 at 9:32 pm


The Fairly Odd Parents started airing that year, still one of my favourite cartoons to this day. Even the recent episodes are very decent!

And which early 2000s kid can forget this song?! It's Chris Kirkpatrick from NSYNC singing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcQeeWmgrE4


Damn, didn't know that a NSYNC member voiced Chip Skylark. No wonder why he doesn't appear after the 2005 season.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/15/16 at 9:25 pm

I uploaded these in the 2001 music thread. These tracks capture that upbeat vibe of 2001. They're not all "depressing" or "emotional". They have that "Get up and dance" or "Feel the rhythm with me" vibe.
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Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: #Infinity on 03/15/16 at 11:47 pm


I uploaded these in the 2001 music thread. These tracks capture that upbeat vibe of 2001. They're not all "depressing" or "emotional". They have that "Get up and dance" or "Feel the rhythm with me" vibe.
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The thing is, you also had songs like these ruling the charts during the later parts of the year:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koJlIGDImiU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRz4FY0ZcwI

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/15/16 at 11:54 pm


The thing is, you also had songs like these ruling the charts during the later parts of the year:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koJlIGDImiU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRz4FY0ZcwI


Nearly every decade/year has songs that aren't upbeat. When I said that the songs I've posted weren't all depressing and emotional I was referring to the just those two songs that I posted. I can go to any upbeat era and still find pretty emotional stuff. It would be silly if I based the entire 2001 feel of music with just two songs (that I'm sure not many of you even heard of). But those two songs that I posted remind me of the cultural vibe of 2001.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/16/16 at 7:48 pm

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The first kidz bop!

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/16/16 at 7:58 pm


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The first kidz bop!


I've always hated Kidz Bop and still do today. I thought it was unnecessary for all the little kids to poison all of the mainstream songs made by its original artists.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/16 at 8:01 pm


I've always hated Kidz Bop and still do today. I thought it was unnecessary for all the little kids to poison all of the mainstream songs made by its original artists.


I kinda like Kidz Bop when I was a kid, although I didn't own any of the official CDs. Although, It's terrible to think that these people thought it was okay to make kiddy versions of mainstream songs.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 03/16/16 at 8:12 pm


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The first kidz bop!


Kidz Bop was so cheesy to me. But I guess it was a brilliant idea as kids loved it. Nowadays they're 30+ Kids Bop volumes.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mqg96 on 03/16/16 at 8:17 pm

When I was obsessed with racing video games as a kid, you know these were some of my favorite scenes from one of my all time favorite action movies.

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Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 80sfan on 05/02/16 at 12:14 am

It was the last innocent year for me. Childhood was winding down, fast! I turned 13 in November of that year. And that explains that.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 05/02/16 at 12:27 am

Just a few moments ago I was looking up pop cultural things of 2001. It's amazing on how many good things released that year. Nice year for music, nice year for cartoons, nice year for movies, nice year for a lot of things. Hated using dial up that year, though. I think 2001 I barely used the internet.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/02/16 at 1:11 am


Just a few moments ago I was looking up pop cultural things of 2001. It's amazing on how many good things released that year. Nice year for music, nice year for cartoons, nice year for movies, nice year for a lot of things. Hated using dial up that year, though. I think 2001 I barely used the internet.


I believe every year of the early 00's: 2000, 2001 and 2002, are equally incredible.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 05/02/16 at 1:27 am


I believe every year of the early 00's: 2000, 2001 and 2002, are equally incredible.


I like 'em all.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/02/16 at 1:27 am


I like 'em all.


Me too! The early 00s were a blast! :D

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 05/02/16 at 1:47 am


Just a few moments ago I was looking up pop cultural things of 2001. It's amazing on how many good things released that year. Nice year for music, nice year for cartoons, nice year for movies, nice year for a lot of things. Hated using dial up that year, though. I think 2001 I barely used the internet.


In 2001, the Internet was gamegenie.com for Game Genie codes, gamewinners.com for cheat codes, and MSN. Those are the only three things that existed.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/02/16 at 4:41 am


In 2001, the Internet was gamegenie.com for Game Genie codes, gamewinners.com for cheat codes, and MSN. Those are the only three things that existed.


There was more than that... ::)

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 05/02/16 at 8:38 am


There was more than that... ::)


ask.com?

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 80sfan on 05/02/16 at 10:03 am


In 2001, the Internet was gamegenie.com for Game Genie codes, gamewinners.com for cheat codes, and MSN. Those are the only three things that existed.


;D

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 05/02/16 at 3:40 pm


In 2001, the Internet was gamegenie.com for Game Genie codes, gamewinners.com for cheat codes, and MSN. Those are the only three things that existed.


Back in the day when people only needed 3 websites.  8) I think about 50% of what I did on the internet in 2001 were gaming related.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 05/02/16 at 3:41 pm


Back in the day when people only needed 3 websites.  8) I think about 50% of what I did on the internet in 2001 were gaming related.


Or unless they were on AIM, MSN, ICQ, or any instant messenger and didn't care about gaming.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 05/02/16 at 4:06 pm


Back in the day when people only needed 3 websites.  8) I think about 50% of what I did on the internet in 2001 were gaming related.


Haha, same! I remember printing off the entire Yu-Gi-Oh card codes and walk through for the GBA game. It was like 50 pages! My dad was furious  ;D

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Howard on 05/02/16 at 4:12 pm


In 2001, the Internet was gamegenie.com for Game Genie codes, gamewinners.com for cheat codes, and MSN. Those are the only three things that existed.


and apps for the consoles.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 05/02/16 at 4:47 pm


Haha, same! I remember printing off the entire Yu-Gi-Oh card codes and walk through for the GBA game. It was like 50 pages! My dad was furious  ;D


It could handle that on dial-up Internet? Damn, you must've enjoyed that modem noise by then.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 05/02/16 at 4:49 pm


Haha, same! I remember printing off the entire Yu-Gi-Oh card codes and walk through for the GBA game. It was like 50 pages! My dad was furious  ;D


I remember doing that for GBA, GBC, N64, and PS2 games at the time. I also did that to learn how to unlock all characters in Melee.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 05/02/16 at 5:07 pm


I remember doing that for GBA, GBC, N64, and PS2 games at the time. I also did that to learn how to unlock all characters in Melee.


Printing off cheat codes... A different era haha. Now you can just look it up on your phone and go back to playing your game. Do they even have cheat codes these days?  ;D

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Toon on 05/02/16 at 5:28 pm


Printing off cheat codes... A different era haha. Now you can just look it up on your phone and go back to playing your game. Do they even have cheat codes these days?  ;D


Heck the fact that I can look up cheat codes on my phone is crazy. I would have never imagine phones have so many uses besides calling or texting back in 2001. Games today don't really use cheat codes. They just have unlockable secrets that you can get by completing certain tasks or finding them in hidden areas. Nowadays they're just hints instead of cheat codes.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/02/16 at 8:55 pm


ask.com?


Your view of the internet is so innocent, my friend. So, so innocent.


Back in the day when people only needed 3 websites.  8) I think about 50% of what I did on the internet in 2001 were gaming related.


And the other 50?

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 05/02/16 at 9:16 pm


Your view of the internet is so innocent, my friend. So, so innocent.

And the other 50?
my friend went on poo.com and it was a German/Scandinavian site with half naked women. No vaginas though.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/02/16 at 9:20 pm


my friend went on poo.com and it was a German/Scandinavian site with half naked women. No vaginas though.


Now that sounds like the internet I remember! And then there was... Rotten... Oh god...

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Howard on 05/03/16 at 2:59 pm


Printing off cheat codes... A different era haha. Now you can just look it up on your phone and go back to playing your game. Do they even have cheat codes these days?  ;D


for some video games? Yes.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 05/03/16 at 3:21 pm


for some video games? Yes.
true, PC games tend to have them still.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 05/04/16 at 1:07 pm


Heck the fact that I can look up cheat codes on my phone is crazy. I would have never imagine phones have so many uses besides calling or texting back in 2001. Games today don't really use cheat codes. They just have unlockable secrets that you can get by completing certain tasks or finding them in hidden areas. Nowadays they're just hints instead of cheat codes.


Yeah, it seems like cheat codes in games aren't as big today as they used to be back in the '80s/'90s/early '00s. That's kind of a shame really. For me, as a gamer growing up, there was little cooler than learning a cheat code to help you dominate a really hard game that you couldn't get through, like the "Konami Code" on Contra. The stage select screen on Sonic 2 that allowed you to turn into Super Sonic at the beginning of the game was another of my most frequently abused codes back in the day.

I even liked the silly ones too. Does anybody remember that code on Spyro the Dragon that let you play through the game as Spryo with a gigantic head? :D


Haha, same! I remember printing off the entire Yu-Gi-Oh card codes and walk through for the GBA game. It was like 50 pages! My dad was furious  ;D


It was even more of a pain in the pre-internet days, when you had to rely on gaming magazines. My parents wouldn't buy me alot of those growing up, so, whenever we went to grocery store in the mid to late '90s, I had to take a scrap of notebook paper in my pocket and jot down any cool cheat codes I came across while browsing through Tips & Tricks Magazine or Gamepro. ;D

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 05/04/16 at 1:26 pm

It's sad for me that I wasn't into console games until I was 8 and a half. Even though I said this a million times, it's just that my childhood barely impacted on video games. Even though I grew up with PC games, it's just that people here are more into console gaming than PCs.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Howard on 05/04/16 at 2:43 pm


true, PC games tend to have them still.


and they didn't add stuff which you can buy for a certain amount of money until a few years later.

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: 2001 on 05/04/16 at 4:09 pm


Yeah, it seems like cheat codes in games aren't as big today as they used to be back in the '80s/'90s/early '00s. That's kind of a shame really. For me, as a gamer growing up, there was little cooler than learning a cheat code to help you dominate a really hard game that you couldn't get through, like the "Konami Code" on Contra. The stage select screen on Sonic 2 that allowed you to turn into Super Sonic at the beginning of the game was another of my most frequently abused codes back in the day.

I even liked the silly ones too. Does anybody remember that code on Spyro the Dragon that let you play through the game as Spryo with a gigantic head? :D

It was even more of a pain in the pre-internet days, when you had to rely on gaming magazines. My parents wouldn't buy me alot of those growing up, so, whenever we went to grocery store in the mid to late '90s, I had to take a scrap of notebook paper in my pocket and jot down any cool cheat codes I came across while browsing through Tips & Tricks Magazine or Gamepro. ;D


Damn that's old school!  ;D I only ever bought the Prima Guide for Ocarina of Time. Waste of money!

Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 05/07/16 at 3:00 pm

As a Cards fan, this was HEARTWARMING!!!!! :\'( :o

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Subject: Re: What were the positives about 2001 pop culturally?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 05/07/16 at 4:26 pm


As a Cards fan, this was HEARTWARMING!!!!! :\'( :o

EvP97Z_bvIs


Even though mqg96 didn't want people to mention 9/11 in this thread, it's alright. Jack Buck is basically one of the best announcers for baseball. Too bad his son isn't doing well, despite working for Fox since 1996.

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