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Subject: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: SpyroKev on 04/16/16 at 10:16 pm

This is a topic on where the 2000s went wrong in your perspective.

In my perspective, I would say the 2000s went wrong once the South took over Hip Hop. New York and Atlanta was such a fun and still diverse combination era for Hip Hop during the Earlier 2000s. Once the south completely took the genre, it turned generic and too care free.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/16/16 at 10:23 pm

Musically or politically/ lifestyle wise? ???

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: SpyroKev on 04/16/16 at 10:41 pm


Musically or politically/ lifestyle wise? ???


In general, Dude. Detail any aspect that changed for the worst if you have any. The south taking over Hip Hop devolved the genre of that era for me. Which is one of my main demographics in music. If you enjoyed every year of the 2000s, this thread isn't for you.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/16/16 at 10:48 pm


In general, Dude. Detail any aspect that changed for the worst if you have any. The south taking over Hip Hop devolved the genre of that era for me. Which is one of my main demographics in music. If you enjoyed every year of the 2000s, this thread isn't for you.

I didn't enjoy EVERY year of the 00s. lol I wasn't too fond of 2006, 2007, and even 2009 to a degree.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: #Infinity on 04/16/16 at 10:49 pm

Two words: Butterfly ballots.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/16/16 at 11:25 pm

2004 happened. That's what. The real 2000's are probably the worst time in recent history. 2000, 2001 and 2002 are probably going to go down as the three greatest years of the century but the rest of that decade is like J Jonah would say: "Crap! Crap! Crap!"

How'd we go from this:

http://folk.musiclog.in/images/img_39501.jpg

http://www.english4all.pro.br/simpleplan.jpg

To this:

http://guitarism.ru/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Good_Charlotte.jpg

http://www.bringthenoiseuk.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/From+First+to+Last-200.jpg

Makes no sense!!

How does this:

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/dailypix/2002/Jan/08/il01a.jpg

Have anything to do with this:

https://andreamacmillan.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/cutie-patootie.jpg

It doesn't!!

I remember when bands made cool "You ready f*ckers" faces in preparation for their tours:

http://www.altpress.com/images/uploads/magazine/cover_172nov02_lg.jpg

Even in 2003:

http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/75285141-sum-41-portrait-photo-session-taken-during-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=9QMziWNtBI6whP66vhs4ofyKNl%2FRijGmjfNhitXncIaDwP7vArpJSVwTEtIffVHN%2BnuS35X48HSqfrhPNArWNw%3D%3D

Nowadays they gotta be little babies and bitch about whatever the hell...

http://d75822.medialib.glogster.com/media/2e/2e6d50e526e0dd68d3557c8cfc68937198036fbf60158f216a77d7fb76724f8e/vr1944.jpg

What's he even doing here? That looks stupid.

These are the teen movies for the people of my age group:

http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/59326.gifhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/National_Lampoon's_Van_Wilder_Poster.png

And, of course, the greatest superhero movie of all time...

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spiderman-films/images/a/a7/Spider-Man_Poster_2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130416061601

Look at this knock off crap below. This is not good teen movies, this is straight-to-DVD crap on a disc! 8-P

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5a/Newamericanpiebandcamp.jpg/190px-Newamericanpiebandcamp.jpg

Also, this:

http://aolx.tmsimg.com/movieposters/v7/NowShowing/36137/p36137_p_v7_ae.jpg

Why did they even bother continuing to make superhero movies after Spider-Man 2? Clearly the original Spider-Man was the peak of the genre...

2003 was the start but it was redeemable enough and there is lots of good sh!t from the year. 2004 onward? No thanks, give it to the dogs.


Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/16/16 at 11:28 pm


2004 happened. That's what. The real 2000's are probably the worst time in recent history. 2000, 2001 and 2002 are probably going to go down as the three greatest years of the century but the rest of that decade is like J Jonah would say: "Crap! Crap! Crap!"


2003 was the start but it was redeemable enough and there is lots of good sh!t from the year. 2004 onward? No thanks, give it to the dogs.




2004 the first half was pretty good, the second half I'll agree with was lackluster. But I think 2006 was when things started going wrong well for me... ;D ;D ;D

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Zelek2 on 04/16/16 at 11:35 pm

I'm not saying Obama's necessarily a bad/good president, but ever since he took over it seems we've entered the insufferable "liberals get offended over everything era", like the Bush years were the "conservatives get offended by everything" era (think Jack Thompson or Jerry Falwell).

If a Republican wins the election, the pendulum will more than likely swing back.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/16/16 at 11:37 pm


I'm not saying Obama's necessarily a bad/good president, but ever since he took over it seems we've entered the insufferable "liberals get offended over everything era", like the Bush years were the "conservatives get offended by everything" era (think Jack Thompson or Jerry Falwell).

If a Republican wins the election, the pendulum will more than likely swing back.

I'm tired of thus political correctness BULLCRAP!

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/16/16 at 11:38 pm


2004 the first half was pretty good, the second half I'll agree with was lackluster. But I think 2006 was when things started going wrong well for me... ;D ;D ;D


June 2004 is probably the worst thing to have ever happened... Let's take a look!

http://www.altpress.com/images/uploads/feature_images/100Bandsin2001/GoldList/2Hawthorne.jpghttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61YYJ31J4ZL.jpghttps://consequenceofsound.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/three-cheers-for-sweet-revenge-508f9739b7bf6.jpghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e7/Aiden_-_Our_Gangs_Dark_Oath.jpg/220px-Aiden_-_Our_Gangs_Dark_Oath.jpg

How can so much awful crap come out in one month? My god...

I don't like 2004 beginning to end.


I'm not saying Obama's necessarily a bad/good president, but ever since he took over it seems we've entered the insufferable "liberals get offended over everything era", like the Bush years were the "conservatives get offended by everything" era (think Jack Thompson or Jerry Falwell).

If a Republican wins the election, the pendulum will more than likely swing back.


It's not even that. It's just self-entitled trust fund kids bitching on the internet about how their rights are stripped away when their mom's ask them to clean up their rooms.


I'm tired of thus political correctness BULLCRAP!


Me too. It's stupid.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/16/16 at 11:59 pm

I feel like the backlash against the bush administration, the tv writer's strike,  the transition in the gaming industry's identity, are some examples of how the 2000s went wrong.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Zelek2 on 04/17/16 at 12:01 am

I'll admit though, a lot of the "anti-SJW" people (mostly on sites like 4chan, Facebook, and Reddit) are very clearly racist, sexist, etc. They don't even try to hide it, they wear it as a badge of honor, as though acting that way has "opened their eyes". :P

Google "alt right" to see who I'm talking about.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/17/16 at 12:07 am


I'll admit though, a lot of the "anti-SJW" people (mostly on sites like 4chan, Facebook, and Reddit) are very clearly racist, sexist, etc. They don't even try to hide it, they wear it as a badge of honor, as though acting that way has "opened their eyes". :P

Google "alt right" to see who I'm talking about.


SJWs and the internet righties are two sides of the same coin. One's just unabashed about their prejudices while the other tries to hide it and pass themselves off as superheroes.

They're basically this:
https://boardgamegeek.com/camo/f3554b787387ba89275f85131ccb249a8ec080de/687474703a2f2f696d672e34706c6562732e6f72672f626f617264732f706f6c2f696d6167652f313338352f37352f313338353735323236363334302e706e67

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: #Infinity on 04/17/16 at 12:28 am

SJW's clearly don't truly care about minorities anyway. If they did, lesbians wouldn't be further pigeonholed as primarily tattoo-sporting rebels, blacks would feel more included in the Bernie Sanders youth culture, and non-male, non-WASPS wouldn't be labeled as traitors for not recognizing themselves as victims in every situation. Every person has a different experience as a minority, and I'm tired of universal narratives swallowing up everything while those who don't fit the mold, such as myself, are so unable to relate to other people their generation. Not every lesbian grew up wanting to be like a boy and aggressively protesting against their parents, just as not every black person grew up with the exact same set of struggles, in spite of certain shared commonalities.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/17/16 at 12:33 am


SJW's clearly don't truly care about minorities anyway. If they did, lesbians wouldn't be further pigeonholed as primarily tattoo-sporting rebels, blacks would feel more included in the Bernie Sanders youth culture, and non-male, non-WASPS wouldn't be labeled as traitors for not recognizing themselves as victims in every situation. Every person has a different experience as a minority, and I'm tired of universal narratives swallowing up everything while those who don't fit the mold, such as myself, are so unable to relate to other people their generation. Not every lesbian grew up wanting to be like a boy and aggressively protesting against their parents, just as not every black person grew up with the exact same set of struggles, in spite of certain shared commonalities.


I agree with you all the way. I've noticed that when SJWs talk to someone who isn't white or straight, they have a certain type of attitude instead of treating them like normal human beings. It's as if they've got to walk on eggshells and literally single them out (with their behavior and actions) because of their color/preference. They also have that awful holier-than-thou attitude...

Replace the word "religion" with "conservatism" and "there is no god" with something having to do with political views (or even "liberalism" because internet righties are the same way) and you get your average SJW:
https://i.warosu.org/data/lit/img/0043/35/1386178243889.jpg

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Toon on 04/17/16 at 12:43 am


SJW's clearly don't truly care about minorities anyway. If they did, lesbians wouldn't be further pigeonholed as primarily tattoo-sporting rebels, blacks would feel more included in the Bernie Sanders youth culture, and non-male, non-WASPS wouldn't be labeled as traitors for not recognizing themselves as victims in every situation. Every person has a different experience as a minority, and I'm tired of universal narratives swallowing up everything while those who don't fit the mold, such as myself, are so unable to relate to other people their generation. Not every lesbian grew up wanting to be like a boy and aggressively protesting against their parents, just as not every black person grew up with the exact same set of struggles, in spite of certain shared commonalities.


All of this. I agree 100%. 

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: #Infinity on 04/17/16 at 12:48 am


I agree with you all the way. I've noticed that when SJWs talk to someone who isn't white or straight, they have a certain type of attitude instead of treating them like normal human beings. It's as if they've got to walk on eggshells and literally single them out (with their behavior and actions) because of their color/preference. They also have that awful holier-than-thou attitude...


Yeah, when I'm around a lot of SJW-style lesbians, they basically act like I should be praising Hillcrest, Ocean Beach, and North Park (basically the most "liberal" neighborhoods in San Diego) like they're the Promised Land and that any suburb, especially East County cities like Santee and El Cajon, are horrible hellholes, even though they're still way more liberal than your average Bible Belt town and still have a lot of friendly people regardless. Literally, one time, the person running an LGBT support group I went to joked that there is no such thing as a pride flag in Santee. What if you grew up there and feel indelibly attached to its culture, regardless of there being more Republicans than the area around Balboa Park?

I feel like I'm singled out of lesbian meet ups I attend because I don't like hanging out in places like that, don't at all care for Orange Is the New Black, can't stand tattoos or piercings, play team sports, or go out to bars partying to Tegan & Sara music. I'm sorry, but I'm just not a south-of-the-Interstate 8 urban dweller who goes to Gossip Grill, coffee houses, and attends social protests, I'm just your typical young Californian suburban woman, with interests pertaining to theatre and intellectual analysis, who happens to like other females. Considering how "diverse" and "accepting" the mid-2010s are supposed to be, it should not be this hard for me to have a rapport with other lesbians and thus be able to find love! Instead, I find myself relating more to non-queers whose interests and personal style align far more with my own.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Toon on 04/17/16 at 12:52 am


Yeah, when I'm around a lot of SJW-style lesbians, they basically act like I should be praising Hillcrest, Ocean Beach, and North Park (basically the most "liberal" neighborhoods in San Diego) like they're wonderlands and that any suburb, especially East County cities like Santee and El Cajon, are horrible hellholes, even though they're still way more liberal than your average Bible Belt town and still have a lot of friendly people regardless. I feel like I'm singled out of lesbian meet ups I attend because I don't like hanging out in places like that, don't at all care for Orange Is the New Black, can't stand tattoos or piercings, play team sports, or go out to bars partying to Tegan & Sara music. I'm sorry, but I'm just not a south-of-the-Interstate 8 urban dweller who goes to Gossip Grill, coffee houses, and attends social protests, I'm just your typical young Californian suburban woman, with interests pertaining to theatre and intellectual analysis, who happens to like other females. Considering how "diverse" and "accepting" the mid-2010s are supposed to be, it should not be this hard for me to have a rapport with other lesbians and thus be able to find love! Instead, I find myself relating more to non-queers whose interests and personal style align far more with my own.


I don't like the idea of minority meet ups. It's best for people of all groups (minority or not) to be hanging out together and not in exclusive "certain people only" groups. If anything minority meet ups only make the situation worse to me. Especially since it appears to not only would you have to be within a certain minority to join the group, but you'd also have to have a certain mindset as well which I'm very much against.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: #Infinity on 04/17/16 at 12:55 am


I don't like the idea of minority meet ups. It's best for people of all groups (minority or not) to be hanging out together and not in exclusive "certain people only" groups. If anything minority meet ups only make the situation worse to me. Especially since it appears to not only would you have to be within a certain minority to join the group, but you'd also have to have a certain mindset as well which I'm very much against.


I only attend lesbian meet-ups because lesbians are essentially the only type of people who may be romantically compatible with me on a mutual level. Too bad there's generally such a lack of diversity, at least out in the open.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/17/16 at 1:39 am


Yeah, when I'm around a lot of SJW-style lesbians, they basically act like I should be praising Hillcrest, Ocean Beach, and North Park (basically the most "liberal" neighborhoods in San Diego) like they're the Promised Land and that any suburb, especially East County cities like Santee and El Cajon, are horrible hellholes, even though they're still way more liberal than your average Bible Belt town and still have a lot of friendly people regardless. Literally, one time, the person running an LGBT support group I went to joked that there is no such thing as a pride flag in Santee. What if you grew up there and feel indelibly attached to its culture, regardless of there being more Republicans than the area around Balboa Park?

I feel like I'm singled out of lesbian meet ups I attend because I don't like hanging out in places like that, don't at all care for Orange Is the New Black, can't stand tattoos or piercings, play team sports, or go out to bars partying to Tegan & Sara music. I'm sorry, but I'm just not a south-of-the-Interstate 8 urban dweller who goes to Gossip Grill, coffee houses, and attends social protests, I'm just your typical young Californian suburban woman, with interests pertaining to theatre and intellectual analysis, who happens to like other females. Considering how "diverse" and "accepting" the mid-2010s are supposed to be, it should not be this hard for me to have a rapport with other lesbians and thus be able to find love! Instead, I find myself relating more to non-queers whose interests and personal style align far more with my own.


Definitely sounds like the opposite of diverse. I don't get why lesbians (or any gay person for that matter) are expected to fit into these strict stereotypes. Like you said, you're just a person who happens to be lesbian. You have a whole other world of interests that have nothing to do with that and you don't feel the need to shove a billion pieces of metal through your face (and listen to Tegan and Sara... 8-P) as you're fine the way you are. Problem is, in the 2010's, you're expected to look like tumblr vomit or else you're "perpetuating oppression." All the gay people I've met over the years just want to be seen as normal human beings who happen to have a preference for the same sex. I feel like these SJW types of people are doing more harm than good by de-humanizing (and maybe even fetishizing?) people as if they're generic robots who all like the same things and removing all the diverse interests that make people what they are.

Someone once asked Bob Mould if he considers himself a "gay musician" or a "musician who happens to be gay" and he said this:

"A musician who happens to be gay. It's a big part of who I am, to be sure, but I like to think that music is universal. A good love song or breakup song should work for everyone's orientation, and I write with that in mind."


I don't like the idea of minority meet ups. It's best for people of all groups (minority or not) to be hanging out together and not in exclusive "certain people only" groups. If anything minority meet ups only make the situation worse to me. Especially since it appears to not only would you have to be within a certain minority to join the group, but you'd also have to have a certain mindset as well which I'm very much against.


Based off what Infinity's said, it seems these groups are less "lesbian meet ups" and more "hipster fun time meet ups".

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/17/16 at 8:54 am

Politically, there was George W. Bush's presidency, the 2008 economic recession, 9/11, and the Iraq War.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/17/16 at 6:31 pm

I remember in the good ol' early 00's when Post-Hardcore bands looked funny and then after 2004, they all started looking like Hair Metal trash. I will show you how it all went wrong...

http://loudwire.com/files/2012/10/Finch.jpg

The guys in the back look like they belong in a Rap Metal band but the singer looks like some prehistoric emo kid (all he needs are some thick rims with the lenses popped out!). What's with that stupid Dawson's Creek haircut? C'mon, man, that looks silly. How am I supposed to feel emotions when you're screaming but all I can think about is how much of a stupid dweeb Dawson looks like? The coolest thing is the guy on the left. He's got his hat sideways and a "you ready f*ckers" look on his face. Makes me wanna listen to some Finch.

https://c3.staticflickr.com/3/2288/1717897746_d89c1a1766.jpg

Ok, this is even worse. First, you've got your guitarist rocking that stupid bleached Nick Carter haircut but then you've got your bassist making ghetto faces and looking like he wants to get "Dirrty" and try out for Christina Arguleria's backing band. You may think it's the guy pointing that has the "you ready f*ckers!?" look on his face but no, it's the dude with the beanie. Makes me wanna listen to some Used.

Now for the real 00's:

http://270c81.medialib.glogster.com/media/56/561c99db38301bf0bf707ec82379d5f06e8eac39cd107f2f60b631edfe0f223d/escape-the-fate-9.jpg

It's so nice when parents give their 12 year old daughters encouragement to start a band... Oh wait? These are dudes? Impossible!

http://www.dabelly.com/images/Issue%20070/From_First_To_Last_By_Jeff_Gros_1.jpeg.jpg

These guys look like mormons morons! Do you think this makes me wanna listen to your band? No, it doesn't. Go get some Rap Metal Dawson's Creek haircuts and then talk to me.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Toon on 04/18/16 at 1:47 am


I remember in the good ol' early 00's when Post-Hardcore bands looked funny and then after 2004, they all started looking like Hair Metal trash. I will show you how it all went wrong...

http://loudwire.com/files/2012/10/Finch.jpg

The guys in the back look like they belong in a Rap Metal band but the singer looks like some prehistoric emo kid (all he needs are some thick rims with the lenses popped out!). What's with that stupid Dawson's Creek haircut? C'mon, man, that looks silly. How am I supposed to feel emotions when you're screaming but all I can think about is how much of a stupid dweeb Dawson looks like? The coolest thing is the guy on the left. He's got his hat sideways and a "you ready f*ckers" look on his face. Makes me wanna listen to some Finch.

https://c3.staticflickr.com/3/2288/1717897746_d89c1a1766.jpg

Ok, this is even worse. First, you've got your guitarist rocking that stupid bleached Nick Carter haircut but then you've got your bassist making ghetto faces and looking like he wants to get "Dirrty" and try out for Christina Arguleria's backing band. You may think it's the guy pointing that has the "you ready f*ckers!?" look on his face but no, it's the dude with the beanie. Makes me wanna listen to some Used.

Now for the real 00's:

http://270c81.medialib.glogster.com/media/56/561c99db38301bf0bf707ec82379d5f06e8eac39cd107f2f60b631edfe0f223d/escape-the-fate-9.jpg

It's so nice when parents give their 12 year old daughters encouragement to start a band... Oh wait? These are dudes? Impossible!

http://www.dabelly.com/images/Issue%20070/From_First_To_Last_By_Jeff_Gros_1.jpeg.jpg

These guys look like mormons morons! Do you think this makes me wanna listen to your band? No, it doesn't. Go get some Rap Metal Dawson's Creek haircuts and then talk to me.


Bands are basically one of the biggest defining things of pop culture. Just looking at a band from a certain era could easily give you an idea on what things were like. The late 90's/early 00's bands look different from the late 00's/early 10's bands for example.  Also in that last pic I will admit that I thought the guy on a left was a girl. Mainly due to the hair style.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/18/16 at 1:56 am


Bands are basically one of the biggest defining things of pop culture. Just looking at a band from a certain era could easily give you an idea on what things were like. The late 90's/early 00's bands look different from the late 00's/early 10's bands for example.  Also in that last pic I will admit that I thought the guy on a left was a girl. Mainly due to the hair style.


Definitely. You can see how the bands in the late 90s/early 00s had very Xtreme!skateboarder styles with the spiky hair and sideways caps or sometimes they could be dorky with the Dawson's Creek/Aaron Carter haircuts but in the mid 00s to early 10s it's all black hair dye, eyeliner and tight pants. Hahaha, that made me laugh! They even sing like girls, too. The old Post-Hardcore bands were the best and the post-2003 one just don't compare.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Toon on 04/18/16 at 2:10 am


Definitely. You can see how the bands in the late 90s/early 00s had very Xtreme!skateboarder styles with the spiky hair and sideways caps or sometimes they could be dorky with the Dawson's Creek/Aaron Carter haircuts but in the mid 00s to early 10s it's all black hair dye, eyeliner and tight pants. Hahaha, that made me laugh! They even sing like girls, too. The old Post-Hardcore bands were the best and the post-2003 one just don't compare.


Pretty much. When on topic things went wrong in the 00s once the extreme sports trend and tons of early 00's trends faded. I find the early 00's pop culture to be very interesting. And to see that era be short lived before fading while a new trend/pop cultural era came around upsets me.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/18/16 at 2:15 am


Pretty much. When on topic things went wrong in the 00s once the extreme sports trend and tons of early 00's trends faded. I find the early 00's pop culture to be very interesting. And to see that era be short lived before fading while a new trend/pop cultural era came around upsets me.


I agree. When things stopped being Xtreme! and all the cool, upbeat commericals, movies and music went away and replaced with lamer things, it sucked. I miss the days when Spider-Man was the biggest thing, people were sippin' on some Surge and Pepsi Blue and listening to Sum 41's All Killer No Filler CD's. Stuff like MySpace, Fall Out Boy's "Dark Forest Made Me Sad Knife Knife Stab Stab" and Pepsi Depressant are lame.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Toon on 04/18/16 at 2:42 am


I agree. When things stopped being Xtreme! and all the cool, upbeat commericals, movies and music went away and replaced with lamer things, it sucked. I miss the days when Spider-Man was the biggest thing, people were sippin' on some Surge and Pepsi Blue and listening to Sum 41's All Killer No Filler CD's. Stuff like MySpace, Fall Out Boy's "Dark Forest Made Me Sad Knife Knife Stab Stab" and Pepsi Depressant are lame.


"We became wusses." I just summed up what went wrong in the 2000s.  ;D If the Dell Dude was looking at us now he'd face palm and walk away in disappointment.

I need to do some research on what caused most of the early 00's trends to disappear. Why did Spiky hair go out of style? Why was being extreme no longer popular? Why did bands stop being in-your-face with their music? What caused Surge soda to not sell well enough by the end of 2003? Why did Nu-Metal decline in popularity? Early '00s is a combination of many things pop culturally. And it's strange that a lot of those things started to fade away around the same time. Although there still some early 00's things that lived throughout the 2000s, but they weren't as popular as they were in the early '00s.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/18/16 at 2:54 am


"We became wusses." I just summed up what went wrong in the 2000s.  ;D If the Dell Dude was looking at us now he'd face palm and walk away in disappointment.

I need to do some research on what caused most of the early 00's trends to disappear. Why did Spiky hair go out of style? Why was being extreme no longer popular? Why did bands stop being in-your-face with their music? What caused Surge soda to not sell well enough by the end of 2003? Why did Nu-Metal decline in popularity? Early '00s is a combination of many things pop culturally. And it's strange that a lot of those things started to fade away around the same time. Although there still some early 00's things that lived throughout the 2000s, but they weren't as popular as they were in the early '00s.


I agree. I bet the Dell Dude is too disappointed for words with how the real 00's turned out. Poor guy.

It's hard to say, really. Just overtime the wings haircut and faux-Emo music took over from all the good stuff. I know with Nu Metal it's because 2000-2002 was so oversaturated (for example something like Ozzfest, which was a festival for general Metal fans, had the 2000-2002 lineups filled almost nothing but Nu Metal bands. Sh!t, even Pop Punk festivals like Warped Tour had Nu Metal bands like Sw1tched and Limp Bizkit) then in 2003/2004 it took a pretty big decline. You could say the same for Pop Punk with 2000-2002 having so many the bands causing it's downfall in 2003/2004. All the upbeat, fun rock genres took a turn for the worst. Even stuff like Post-Grunge went from the yarly Puddle of Mudd to Made-for-Myspace Three Days Grace. Teen Movies, too. They went from gross-out funny comedies like Van Wilder, American Pie 2 and Boys and Girls to more emotional films like Mean Girls. I guess the reason spiky hair and Xtreme! skater clothing went away was because the music and movies that were so closely tied to the fashion went away.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: SpyroKev on 04/18/16 at 8:40 am

Its important to point out, but It still all comes down to perspective. I didn't even know emo bands were in existence in 2004-2005. I only first caught a glimpse of them in 2006 due to my heartbreak.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/18/16 at 10:55 am


Its important to point out, but It still all comes down to perspective. I didn't even know emo bands were in existence in 2004-2005. I only first caught a glimpse of them in 2006 due to my heartbreak.


That's true. I've been aware of Emo since 1995 and when the stuff from 2003/2004 hit... 8-P 8-P 8-P

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: 2001 on 04/18/16 at 3:47 pm

Summer of '04 when I moved out of my childhood neighbourhood is when the 2000s started sucking for me. Although to be honest, the pop culture of late 2003 and onwards wasn't my cup of tea. However. there are still a bunch of things I like from 2004-2009, even if I didn't like most things.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/18/16 at 8:38 pm


Summer of '04 when I moved out of my childhood neighbourhood is when the 2000s started sucking for me. Although to be honest, the pop culture of late 2003 and onwards wasn't my cup of tea. However. there are still a bunch of things I like from 2004-2009, even if I didn't like most things.


2000-2002 is the best. Welcome back, Mr. Trollpoke! ;)

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: 2001 on 04/18/16 at 8:50 pm


2000-2002 is the best. Welcome back, Mr. Trollpoke! ;)


At least you don't call me 2001 anymore haha.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/18/16 at 8:51 pm


At least you don't call me 2001 anymore haha.


I can still call you Mr. Trollpoke2001 if you'd like me, too. ;)

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 04/18/16 at 9:37 pm


Definitely sounds like the opposite of diverse. I don't get why lesbians (or any gay person for that matter) are expected to fit into these strict stereotypes. Like you said, you're just a person who happens to be lesbian. You have a whole other world of interests that have nothing to do with that and you don't feel the need to shove a billion pieces of metal through your face (and listen to Tegan and Sara... 8-P) as you're fine the way you are. Problem is, in the 2010's, you're expected to look like tumblr vomit or else you're "perpetuating oppression." All the gay people I've met over the years just want to be seen as normal human beings who happen to have a preference for the same sex. I feel like these SJW types of people are doing more harm than good by de-humanizing (and maybe even fetishizing?) people as if they're generic robots who all like the same things and removing all the diverse interests that make people what they are.


I have to ask, as someone not terribly "in the loop" on this topic, but when did this whole social justice/safe space/microagression protest stuff on college campuses really take off? Is it something relatively new? I was in college myself from 2005-2009, and I don't really recall very many student protests period, nevermind over something as trivial as halloween costumes. Of course, I was going to school here in the south, so that might've colored my view a bit.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/18/16 at 9:40 pm


I have to ask, as someone not terribly "in the loop" on this topic, but when did this whole social justice/safe space/microagression protest stuff on college campuses really take off? Is it something relatively new? I was in college myself from 2005-2009, and I don't really recall very many student protests period, nevermind over something as trivial as halloween costumes. Of course, I was going to school here in the south, so that might've colored my view a bit.


I'm not too in the loop with all this social justice tumblr stuff either but I first noticed it beginning around 2013. Even in California, I don't remember all this happening before.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Toon on 04/18/16 at 9:41 pm


I have to ask, as someone not terribly "in the loop" on this topic, but when did this whole social justice/safe space/microagression protest stuff on college campuses really take off? Is it something relatively new? I was in college myself from 2005-2009, and I don't really recall very many student protests period, nevermind over something as trivial as halloween costumes. Of course, I was going to school here in the south, so that might've colored my view a bit.


I'm curious on when this stuff started to take off as well. I don't remember hearing or seeing anything about any protests during the mid-late '00s. Maybe it was just the area that I lived in.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: 2001 on 04/18/16 at 10:35 pm


I have to ask, as someone not terribly "in the loop" on this topic, but when did this whole social justice/safe space/microagression protest stuff on college campuses really take off? Is it something relatively new? I was in college myself from 2005-2009, and I don't really recall very many student protests period, nevermind over something as trivial as halloween costumes. Of course, I was going to school here in the south, so that might've colored my view a bit.


I think the whole outrage about people being outraged about little things is overblown,  big time. There's an outrage culture for outrage culture, that's why you hear about it all the time.

As for when campus started getting political, I got into university in 2011-12 and we had three major protests that year. Occupy Toronto, the 2012 Montreal student protests, and there was a protest at school against rape culture after a string of sexual assaults. I would say most of it started the previous year because in Toronto we hosted G20 in 2010 and there were massive student protests, and there was the 2011 election as well and there was big youth turnout. Tumblr and Twitter were already huge by then.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/23/16 at 12:33 am

You guys should watch this video! ;D
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Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Toon on 04/23/16 at 1:12 am


You guys should watch this video! ;D
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He thinks things became bad in 2006? I will admit that if the 2000s were to have a low point I'd probably say 2006 as well. I liked cartoons such as Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes and maybe the Replacements.  Video gaming wasn't that great in 2006 as I only really liked 4 games that released that year. I liked 2006 animated movies such as Flushed Away, Open Season, Monster House, and Cars. Only 2006 live action movie that I liked was Night at the Museum. I didn't care for 2006 music or the fashion either. In my personal life 2006 was alright, but in terms of pop culture it was bland or disappointing. When talking about popular culture 2006 is my least favorite year.

Years such as 2001 were way better. I liked the crazy fashion that was trending. I liked nearly all the songs that released that year. I enjoyed over 20 games that released. The year had tons of great animated or live action movies. And great tv animated or live action tv shows. Pop culturally 2001 is in my top 5 favorite years.  2006 would be in my top 5 worst years.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: 2001 on 04/23/16 at 5:36 am

Man you guys really love this FutureKing guy lol.

I'd say 2005 was rock bottom. Those reality shows, man, they were cancer. He says 2006 is when it took over but it was 2005. Paris would tell ya. And those MMOs were a huge time sink too. I can't think of many positive things to say about 2005 other than the popularization of the iPod which was exciting technology.

2006 is 2005 part 2 so I can see why people dislike that too. But I had fun watching FIFA 2006 and the DS Lite got me into video games again. Also Heroes started airing, it was amazing. But overall it's the second worst year ever after 2005 :P

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Zelek2 on 04/23/16 at 5:49 am

300 is way more of a 2007 movie than a 2006 one. It was only show one time as a sneak peek at one exclusive theater in late 06, it didn't have a "wide" release until 2007.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: 2001 on 04/23/16 at 6:23 am


300 is way more of a 2007 movie than a 2006 one. It was only show one time as a sneak peek at one exclusive theater in late 06, it didn't have a "wide" release until 2007.


Yeah people couldn't shut up about it in 2007. 2006 was free of that movie.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: mqg96 on 04/23/16 at 8:43 am


You guys should watch this video! ;D
ITjTlY5Tii8


Damn! I never realized so many people would have hated on 2006 this much up 'til now. It's not our faults though  ;D  that's just the way the pop culture went. Thank God my personal life was great throughout 2006 though which saved that year for me.

From a true 2000's kid standpoint who witnessed the whole decade with clear memory, 2002-2005 were amazing for TV, movies, and entertainment. 2006 was the downfall year for TV & entertainment and a down year for movies. 2007 is when TV and entertainment completely went to sheesh but IMO movies did have an upswing that year.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/23/16 at 9:06 am

2005 is indeed rock bottom. It's like a black hole of boring nothingness. Everything awful about 2004 got even worse and more in your face in 2005...

The only good 00's years are 2000, 2001 and 2002 (maybe, 2003) and that's it. 

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/23/16 at 9:06 am


You guys should watch this video! ;D
ITjTlY5Tii8


As a mid-late 2000s kid, I'm okay with TheFutureKing said throughout the video. I could agree that 2006 sucked, since it was just a watered down 2005. Personal life wise, it's at least better than most of the 2010s years to me.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/23/16 at 9:09 am


Yeah people couldn't shut up about it in 2007. 2006 was free of that movie.


2007 was great because of 300 (and other movies released that year).

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/23/16 at 11:55 am


Damn! I never realized so many people would have hated on 2006 this much up 'til now. It's not our faults though  ;D  that's just the way the pop culture went. Thank God my personal life was great throughout 2006 though which saved that year for me.

From a true 2000's kid standpoint who witnessed the whole decade with clear memory, 2002-2005 were amazing for TV, movies, and entertainment. 2006 was the downfall year for TV & entertainment and a down year for movies. 2007 is when TV and entertainment completely went to sheesh but IMO movies did have an upswing that year.

2006.... just wasn't that good of a year. Personal life like you said was good for me and you. But culturally, nope! ;D

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/23/16 at 12:05 pm


2006.... just wasn't that good of a year. Personal life like you said was good for me and you. But culturally, nope! ;D


It was good for some things culturally, but it wasn't as good as 2000-2005 and 2007-2008.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: #Infinity on 04/23/16 at 12:22 pm

2006 was good for technology because it was the first full year I remember Wikipedia being a common thing, not to mention it was the year YouTube became mainstream. The Wii was also pretty cool back when it first came out, even though I was personally only waiting for the next Super Smash Bros. to come out.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Zelek2 on 04/23/16 at 12:22 pm

I don't understand how Halo 3 was worse than Halo 2 (that's what the guy seemed to be implying in his video).

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: mqg96 on 04/23/16 at 12:43 pm


2006 was good for technology because it was the first full year I remember Wikipedia being a common thing, not to mention it was the year YouTube became mainstream. The Wii was also pretty cool back when it first came out, even though I was personally only waiting for the next Super Smash Bros. to come out.


The Wii belongs with 2007 including being excited for the Wii games coming out. I remember throughout 6th grade (2007-08) everybody talking about Super Smash Bros. Brawl coming out.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/23/16 at 12:48 pm


2006 was good for technology because it was the first full year I remember Wikipedia being a common thing, not to mention it was the year YouTube became mainstream. The Wii was also pretty cool back when it first came out, even though I was personally only waiting for the next Super Smash Bros. to come out.


The Wii was more popular in the late 2000s/early 2010s, since the console was released in 2006. Sure, it was over hyped during its release, but it's not like a lot of people bought it until 2007-2009.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: mqg96 on 04/23/16 at 12:58 pm


The Wii was more popular in the late 2000s/early 2010s, since the console was released in 2006. Sure, it was over hyped during its release, but it's not like a lot of people bought it until 2007-2009.


A lot of people bought the Wii throughout 2007 and 2008 though. The Wii only peaked throughout the late 2000's and its best games came out throughout that span as well. We were still in the 7th generation era throughout 2010-2012/13 but the Wii had declined in popularity by then.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: 2001 on 04/23/16 at 1:09 pm


2006 was good for technology because it was the first full year I remember Wikipedia being a common thing, not to mention it was the year YouTube became mainstream. The Wii was also pretty cool back when it first came out, even though I was personally only waiting for the next Super Smash Bros. to come out.


I remember spending thousands of hours on Wikipedia. I was really homesick then, and would go to the library every weekend to get information to add to the Wikipedia page of Hamilton, Ontario. After thousands of edits (of mine and a few other obsessives) it reached Good Article status, and later on Featured Article status. I believe it was the first Canadian city to do so. I told my friends this news and it didn't help my reputation of the nerdiest nerd to ever walk the hallways.  I created a lot of other articles as well related to a geography and a few obscure actors. Once a few kids discovered my Wikipedia page with all those side banners proudly stating which Wikipedia Task Forces I was a part of, my middle school reputation went down the tubes.

I read up news on the Nintendo Revolution and Playstation 3 daily. I remember the hype. It was exciting because it was the first time the Nintendo fans in class sort of banded together to share in the hype. E3 2006 will always go down in infamy. That had me rolling on the floor laughing, "Five hundred and ninety nine US dollars", ha! That was the exact moment Sony lost the console wars.

The Smash hype is unforgettable. I believe it was 2007 was when the Smash website went online with the daily reveals on the game's many features. The character reveals especially would generate a lot of buzz. When Snake was announced I thought the Internet would finally break. Ironically, I believe most the hype took the fun out of the game. It was not the second coming like people thought it would be, and because the game came out 2 months earlier in Japan in the YouTube era, by the time Westerners got their hands on it, there was nothing to be surprised about in the game. Not to mention the airy physics and the tripping, we didn't need any of that. Even though I don't even own Smash U, I'd say Smash Brawl is the Smash with the lowest amount of playtime from me. It was 30 hours max trying to unlock a few unlockables and that's it.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: 2001 on 04/23/16 at 1:13 pm


The Wii was more popular in the late 2000s/early 2010s, since the console was released in 2006. Sure, it was over hyped during its release, but it's not like a lot of people bought it until 2007-2009.


By the time Nintendo announces that the name for the console was "Wii", it was already a sensation and a household name. As for when people bought it, a lot of my friends bought it Holiday Season 2006 and hosted Wii Sports parties. I myself bought it for my 14th birthday in February 2007, it was already a huge fad by then. If you by "most" you literally mean most, then the Wii made the majority of sales by Holiday season 2008 or early 2009 I believe, but it was culturally relevant long before that.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: mqg96 on 04/23/16 at 1:45 pm


The Smash hype is unforgettable. I believe it was 2007 was when the Smash website went online with the daily reveals on the game's many features. The character reveals especially would generate a lot of buzz. When Snake was announced I thought the Internet would finally break. Ironically, I believe most the hype took the fun out of the game. It was not the second coming like people thought it would be, and because the game came out 2 months earlier in Japan in the YouTube era, by the time Westerners got their hands on it, there was nothing to be surprised about in the game. Not to mention the airy physics and the tripping, we didn't need any of that. Even though I don't even own Smash U, I'd say Smash Brawl is the Smash with the lowest amount of playtime from me. It was 30 hours max trying to unlock a few unlockables and that's it.


You're right. Almost everyday throughout 6th grade the whole math class was talking about it. I still think Super Smash Bros. Brawl was a great game overall. The gameplay wasn't as good as Melee but it did have a lot of new features on it that still made the game exciting overall. I haven't played Smash Bros. 4 (Wii U/3DS) and I'm probably not going to anyway, but I've seen my younger cousin who's 7 years old play it for his 3DS.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Howard on 04/23/16 at 2:01 pm


2007 was great because of 300 (and other movies released that year).


and The PS3 came around and it became a hot selling item.
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Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Howard on 04/23/16 at 2:02 pm


2006 was good for technology because it was the first full year I remember Wikipedia being a common thing, not to mention it was the year YouTube became mainstream. The Wii was also pretty cool back when it first came out, even though I was personally only waiting for the next Super Smash Bros. to come out.


YouTube became the most popular site for watching music videos.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/23/16 at 2:13 pm


A lot of people bought the Wii throughout 2007 and 2008 though. The Wii only peaked throughout the late 2000's and its best games came out throughout that span as well. We were still in the 7th generation era throughout 2010-2012/13 but the Wii had declined in popularity by then.


Yeah, maybe you're right. I haven't seen that much Wii games being popular since the 2009-10 school year.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: 2001 on 04/23/16 at 2:40 pm


You're right. Almost everyday throughout 6th grade the whole math class was talking about it. I still think Super Smash Bros. Brawl was a great game overall. The gameplay wasn't as good as Melee but it did have a lot of new features on it that still made the game exciting overall. I haven't played Smash Bros. 4 (Wii U/3DS) and I'm probably not going to anyway, but I've seen my younger cousin who's 7 years old play it for his 3DS.


It was still a great game, no doubt. I enjoyed the story mode, playing co-op with my friends. The way they did unlockables was also very creative. It's just that I knew everything about the game before I even bought it, so it didn't really have the excitement of playing a new game for very long. I think if it weren't the hype preceding, I might have enjoyed the game a lot more. The expectations were through the roof.


I don't understand how Halo 3 was worse than Halo 2 (that's what the guy seemed to be implying in his video).


I had a lot of fun with that game. I got that game along with Forza 2/Marvel Universe (which were bundled then) when I bought the Xbox 360 in March 2008. One of my friends was actually in MLG for Halo 3, so I couldn't enjoy the game for very long before my friends became too pro for me LOL

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: mqg96 on 04/23/16 at 3:24 pm


Yeah, maybe you're right. I haven't seen that much Wii games being popular since the 2009-10 school year.


Yeah, New Super Mario Bros. Wii and Super Mario Galaxy 2 were the last big ones, which came out during that season.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Zelek2 on 04/23/16 at 4:09 pm

Unrelated, but does anyone notice that in many mid-2000s movie trailers, the song "Mr. Blue Sky" by ELO was used often?

If Smash Mouth's "All Star" is one of the "themes" to the early 2000s, then Mr. Blue sky may as well be one of the "themes" to the "wimpy real 00s" that Jordan hates. :P

Idk what the "themes" to the late 2000s would be, can anyone name some? As in, songs that you couldn't get away from during the time.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/23/16 at 4:31 pm


Unrelated, but does anyone notice that in many mid-2000s movie trailers, the song "Mr. Blue Sky" by ELO was used often?


I think the song is more used on movies and TV shows, rather than trailers in the mid 2000s. Unless you're talking about PG-13 or R rated movie trailers.

If Smash Mouth's "All Star" is one of the "themes" to the early 2000s, then Mr. Blue sky may as well be one of the "themes" to the "wimpy real 00s" that Jordan hates. :P

Smash Mouth's All Star was just used for Shrek, if were talking about movies. However, that song was one of the anthems for the early 2000s. I bet anybody would hear that song everywhere back in 2001 and 2002.

Idk what the "themes" to the late 2000s would be, can anyone name some? As in, songs that you couldn't get away from during the time.


Internet wise, it would be Numa Numa, I Like To Move It, Crazy Frog, and Levan Polka. That's what I could mention.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Toon on 04/23/16 at 4:36 pm


Idk what the "themes" to the late 2000s would be, can anyone name some? As in, songs that you couldn't get away from during the time.


I'd jokely say Linkin Park's "In the End" would be the theme. But the song was mainly only used on Youtube AMVs in the late '00s (they were nothing more than just anime fight scenes with Linkin Park music in the background). If we're talking about the media as a whole then I'm not entirely sure.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/23/16 at 5:37 pm


and The PS3 came around and it became a hot selling item.

PS3 came out in 06, but it still took a few years before it became a HOT selling item.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/23/16 at 5:43 pm


PS3 came out in 06, but it still took a few years before it became a HOT selling item.


Although, it was a bit popular during the late 2000s.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/23/16 at 5:43 pm

Although I could see why future king thinks 2006 was where things started to suck... cause A LOT of tv shows that had been around since the early 2000s ended such as Malcolm in the Middle, Bernie Mac Show, That's 70 Show, West Wing, Will & Grace, Arrested Development, Teen Titans, etc. UPN and WB became CW, MNF moved to ESPN, classic ABC sports ended,6th gen gaming ended it's main run, HSM and Hannah Montana entered the scene, and the backlash against the Bush administration had REALLY started to bad round this time.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/23/16 at 5:45 pm


Although, it was a bit popular during the late 2000s.

Not exactly.... it STRUGGLED to make a true impact until 2009ish. PS2 was still more popular than PS3 for most of the cultural late 00s. Wii and XBOX were the top tier consoles of the late 00s.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/23/16 at 5:50 pm


Although I could see why future king thinks 2006 was where things started to suck... cause A LOT of tv shows that had been around since the early 2000s ended such as Malcolm in the Middle, Bernie Mac Show, That's 70 Show, West Wing, Will & Grace, Arrested Development, Teen Titans, etc. UPN and WB became CW, MNF moved to ESPN, classic ABC sports ended,6th gen gaming ended it's main run, HSM and Hannah Montana entered the scene, and the backlash against the Bush administration had REALLY started to bad round this time.


2007 was another year when some very late 90s/early 2000s shows ended. Xiaolin Showdown (despite the fact it was more popular in the mid '00s, it premiered in 2003), and The Sopranos for example.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/23/16 at 5:53 pm


2007 was another year when some very late 90s/early 2000s shows ended. Xiaolin Showdown (despite the fact it was more popular in the mid '00s, it premiered in 2003), and The Sopranos for example.

2006 was when it ended.... 2007 was when a few more shows ended, but it didn't feel ANYWHERE NEAR as big as 06 did. A lot of the shows and culutre that ended that year was apart of our lives for SO LONG.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/23/16 at 5:54 pm


Although I could see why future king thinks 2006 was where things started to suck... cause A LOT of tv shows that had been around since the early 2000s ended such as Malcolm in the Middle, Bernie Mac Show, That's 70 Show, West Wing, Will & Grace, Arrested Development, Teen Titans, etc. UPN and WB became CW, MNF moved to ESPN, classic ABC sports ended,6th gen gaming ended it's main run, HSM and Hannah Montana entered the scene, and the backlash against the Bush administration had REALLY started to bad round this time.


There was also the start of the Yes era on CN, Cyma Zarghini's presidency started on Nickelodeon, etc. But I don't think they went bad until 2009.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: 2001 on 04/23/16 at 6:51 pm


Unrelated, but does anyone notice that in many mid-2000s movie trailers, the song "Mr. Blue Sky" by ELO was used often?

If Smash Mouth's "All Star" is one of the "themes" to the early 2000s, then Mr. Blue sky may as well be one of the "themes" to the "wimpy real 00s" that Jordan hates. :P

Idk what the "themes" to the late 2000s would be, can anyone name some? As in, songs that you couldn't get away from during the time.


Maneater by Nelly Furtado.  ;D Or maybe Umbrella by Rihanna.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/23/16 at 7:10 pm


2006 was when it ended.... 2007 was when a few more shows ended, but it didn't feel ANYWHERE NEAR as big as 06 did. A lot of the shows and culture that ended that year was apart of our lives for SO LONG.


Oh. I thought it ended in 2007, but I wasn't really thinking that much to the show. But I think 2006 wasn't as bad as 2009, since that's when TV started turning for the worst IMO.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: #Infinity on 04/23/16 at 7:35 pm


2007 was another year when some very late 90s/early 2000s shows ended. Xiaolin Showdown (despite the fact it was more popular in the mid '00s, it premiered in 2003), and The Sopranos for example.


Also 7th Heaven and Stargate SG-1.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/23/16 at 7:36 pm


Also 7th Heaven and Stargate SG-1.


Eh.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: #Infinity on 04/23/16 at 9:27 pm


Eh.


Like them or not, they were both very popular and significant series for a long time.

Subject: Re: Where Did We Go Wrong? (2000s Version)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/23/16 at 9:45 pm


Unrelated, but does anyone notice that in many mid-2000s movie trailers, the song "Mr. Blue Sky" by ELO was used often?

If Smash Mouth's "All Star" is one of the "themes" to the early 2000s, then Mr. Blue sky may as well be one of the "themes" to the "wimpy real 00s" that Jordan hates. :P

Idk what the "themes" to the late 2000s would be, can anyone name some? As in, songs that you couldn't get away from during the time.


All Star... Oh man, from 1999 to 2003 that god damn song was everywhere... You know what's even worse? Is that so many bands tried to do their own version of All Star. I remember Crazy Town had Butterfly and then Shifty Doucheface Shellshock did that other song Starry Night Surprise. Then the god damn Insane Clown Posse had to jump in on the fun with both Another Love Song and friggin' Juggalo Homies...


Smash Mouth's All Star was just used for Shrek, if were talking about movies. However, that song was one of the anthems for the early 2000s. I bet anybody would hear that song everywhere back in 2001 and 2002.


It was used in a few movies like Mystery Men, Digimon the Movie (I know you'll love that one!), Inspector Gadget and Rat Race. Even shows like Ally McBeal and ER had it play during a few of the episodes. It was all over the radio for like... 4-5 years at least, too. Even if you went bowling or something, you'd hear that song every time!!! Every time!

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Written By: Zelek2 on 04/24/16 at 4:49 pm


You guys should watch this video! ;D
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Gonna have to disagree with this guy that Family Guy "was in its prime" from 2005-2006.

I might be alone here, but ever since the show came back, it almost immediately ceased to be funny and became a self-aggrandizing parody of itself. Unlike most fans, I don't find seasons 4-5 to be all that great; I'd say seasons 1-3 will always be better.

Also, Drake & josh was a good show but I think it sucked in 2006. The last season seemed to be too stupid and mean-spririted compared to the others (example: the episode where Josh runs over Oprah and the whole world endlessly craps on him...on his birthday, at that).

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/24/16 at 5:04 pm


All Star... Oh man, from 1999 to 2003 that god damn song was everywhere... You know what's even worse? Is that so many bands tried to do their own version of All Star. I remember Crazy Town had Butterfly and then Shifty Doucheface Shellshock did that other song Starry Night Surprise. Then the god damn Insane Clown Posse had to jump in on the fun with both Another Love Song and friggin' Juggalo Homies...

It was used in a few movies like Mystery Men, Digimon the Movie (I know you'll love that one!), Inspector Gadget and Rat Race. Even shows like Ally McBeal and ER had it play during a few of the episodes. It was all over the radio for like... 4-5 years at least, too. Even if you went bowling or something, you'd hear that song every time!!! Every time!


I'm more of a Pokemon fan, since Digimon isn't really that cool to me.

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/24/16 at 5:17 pm


Gonna have to disagree with this guy that Family Guy "was in its prime" from 2005-2006.


If you are talking about the 1999-2002 episodes, then I think some people would agree with you. But I truly think Family Guy was alright until Season 10, when the show was becoming really bad. It also didn't even have the charisma that the previous nine seasons had.

Also, Drake & josh was a good show but I think it sucked in 2006. The last season seemed to be too stupid and mean-spririted compared to the others (example: the episode where Josh runs over Oprah and the whole world endlessly craps on him...on his birthday, at that).


I think Drake and Josh had mean-spirited episodes all the way from Season 1. For instance, Drake & Josh usually blame Megan over EVERYTHING they done. Which makes sense because she's always rude to them. And while Megan doesn't even get grounded for her schemes, Drake and Josh get all the blame from their parents. So basically, it doesn't even matter that the last season was too mean-spirited in my opinion. At least the show was hilarious and very memorable compared to Nickelodeon's sitcoms today.

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Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/24/16 at 5:19 pm


If you are talking about the 1999-2002 episodes, then I think some people would agree with you. But I truly think Family Guy was alright until Season 10, when the show was becoming really bad. It also didn't even have the charisma that the previous nine seasons had.

I think Drake and Josh had mean-spirited episodes all the way from Season 1. For instance, Drake & Josh usually blame Megan over EVERYTHING they done. Which makes sense because she's always rude to them. And while Megan doesn't even get grounded for her schemes, Drake and Josh get all the blame from their parents. So basically, it doesn't even matter that the last season was too mean-spirited in my opinion. At least the show was hilarious and very memorable compared to Nickelodeon's sitcoms today.

Agree 100% on that statement.


Drake and Josh's last season was kinda bad tho. ;D

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/24/16 at 5:29 pm


Agree 100% on that statement.


Drake and Josh's last season was kinda bad tho. ;D


Well, some episodes I could say they suck. But they aren't as bad as the newer Nick sitcoms.

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Written By: 2001 on 04/24/16 at 10:19 pm

I enjoyed all of Drake and Josh  :D

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/25/16 at 7:00 am


I enjoyed all of Drake and Josh  :D


Me too. :)

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Written By: mqg96 on 04/25/16 at 7:58 am


Also, Drake & josh was a good show but I think it sucked in 2006. The last season seemed to be too stupid and mean-spririted compared to the others (example: the episode where Josh runs over Oprah and the whole world endlessly craps on him...on his birthday, at that).



Agree 100% on that statement.


Drake and Josh's last season was kinda bad tho. ;D


I agree with both of y'all. Not only Drake & Josh's last season declined in quality, but so did That So Raven too. That So Raven's last season was very lackluster. The mom had left the series. Raven works at a fashion design place now, and the writing was no longer creative. It was a huge step down from seasons 1-3. It's funny how the most popular core 2000's kid sitcoms (Drake & Josh and That's So Raven) had its last seasons and declined throughout the same year (2006), and both ended up having its series finales in 2007.

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/25/16 at 8:12 am


I agree with both of y'all. Not only Drake & Josh's last season declined in quality, but so did That So Raven too. That So Raven's last season was very lackluster. The mom had left the series. Raven works at a fashion design place now, and the writing was no longer creative. It was a huge step down from seasons 1-3. It's funny how the most popular core 2000's kid sitcoms (Drake & Josh and That's So Raven) had its last seasons and declined throughout the same year (2006), and both ended up having its series finales in 2007.


I guess writers for both shows wanted them to die. Maybe that's why most of the 2006-2007 episodes are seen as lackluster.

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Written By: musicguy93 on 04/25/16 at 5:59 pm


You guys should watch this video! ;D
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I'm subscribed to him and Corey Margera. Probably one of the few youtubers whom are honest about today's culture.

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/25/16 at 6:07 pm


I'm subscribed to him and Corey Margera. Probably one of the few youtubers whom are honest about today's culture.


Yeah. I just subscribed to him a few days ago, since I agree that today's culture sucks. Although, I disagree with him saying that 2006 was responsible for today's sh*t, he does want a pop cultural backlash from today.

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Written By: mxcrashxm on 04/25/16 at 6:51 pm


Also, Drake & josh was a good show but I think it sucked in 2006. The last season seemed to be too stupid and mean-spririted compared to the others (example: the episode where Josh runs over Oprah and the whole world endlessly craps on him...on his birthday, at that).



Drake and Josh's last season was kinda bad tho. ;D



I agree with both of y'all. Not only Drake & Josh's last season declined in quality, but so did That So Raven too. That So Raven's last season was very lackluster. The mom had left the series. Raven works at a fashion design place now, and the writing was no longer creative. It was a huge step down from seasons 1-3. It's funny how the most popular core 2000's kid sitcoms (Drake & Josh and That's So Raven) had its last seasons and declined throughout the same year (2006), and both ended up having its series finales in 2007.


I'm in the same boat. It's probably why I didn't watch much of the last season aside from the first few episodes. Hey I don't know if it's just me or anything, but does any of you feel that 2006 had hidden subtle changes that not many people felt? It's weird how at the beginning of the year, most of the pop culture was decent, but by the end, it was lackluster.

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/25/16 at 7:04 pm


I'm in the same boat. It's probably why I didn't watch much of the last season aside from the first few episodes. Hey I don't know if it's just me or anything, but does any of you feel that 2006 had hidden subtle changes that not many people felt? It's weird how at the beginning of the year, most of the pop culture was decent, but by the end, it was lackluster.


It was probably because of the transition from the mid 2000s to late 2000s. The hell if I know.

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Written By: 2001 on 04/25/16 at 7:19 pm


It was probably because of the transition from the mid 2000s to late 2000s. The hell if I know.


Yep, it was that. All of 2006 was terrible to me though.  The late part was nicer because Heroes and Dexter started airing (although I started watching Dexter in 2009). Oh and I liked the Borat hysteria.

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/25/16 at 7:32 pm


Yep, it was that. All of 2006 was terrible to me though.  The late part was nicer because Heroes and Dexter started airing (although I started watching Dexter in 2009). Oh and I liked the Borat hysteria.


Dexter made 2006 amazing when it premiered. Even though I started binge-watching the show two years ago, it's one of my favorite shows of all time.

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