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Subject: Pop Music Changes From 2000-2009

Written By: Looney Toon on 07/17/16 at 7:27 am

After watching this old video from 2009
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It's a mashup of the pop music from the time period

Made me wonder on how Pop music has changed from the way it sounded back in 2000 to the way it sounded back in 2009. Also curious on if mid 10's pop music sounds similar to 2000-2009 pop. I keep up with music, but I haven't paid much attention to pop music in my time of living so I tend to not notice some things.

Also apologizes in advance for if this thread seems like a repeat of other threads. Seen that there were tons of other music related threads before this one. So if this thread gives you a feeling of deja vu then feel free to ignore it or I'll just lock it.

Subject: Re: Pop Music Changes From 2000-2009

Written By: aspireone on 07/17/16 at 7:50 am

2000 - 2001 continuation of the late 90s max martin teeny bopper sound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsO6ZnUZI0g
2000 - 2003 Early 2000s electronic- sounding pop music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c18441Eh_WE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPlQpGeTbIE
2001 - 2006 Hip-hop and RnB flavored pop
            2001 - 2003 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ3slUz7Jo8
            2003 - 2006 ( the sound of this era is emptier and more minimalist than the one prior) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgjkth6BRRY

2008 -2010 Late 00s Edm flavored pop music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bESGLojNYSo
I'm gonna skip 2006 - 2008 because honestly, I don't know how to describe it but basically, it has elements from the hip-hop rnb of 2005-2006 and the edm of 2008 - 2009
           

Subject: Re: Pop Music Changes From 2000-2009

Written By: Looney Toon on 07/17/16 at 8:06 am


2000 - 2001 continuation of the late 90s max martin teeny bopper sound
PsO6ZnUZI0g
2000 - 2003 Early 2000s electronic- sounding pop music
c18441Eh_WE
SPlQpGeTbIE
2001 - 2006 Hip-hop and RnB flavored pop
            2001 - 2003
FQ3slUz7Jo8
            2003 - 2006 ( the sound of this era is emptier and more minimalist than the one prior)
Kgjkth6BRRY

2008 -2010 Late 00s Edm flavored pop music
bESGLojNYSo
I'm gonna skip 2006 - 2008 because honestly, I don't know how to describe it but basically, it has elements from the hip-hop rnb of 2005-2006 and the edm of 2008 - 2009
         



For youtube links remember to only use the ends of them.

"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bESGLojNYSo" will result in a link error. But just using the end part "bESGLojNYSo" will work for ya.  ;)

But anyways nice breakdown of pop music over the decades. After listening to these songs I can get the different vibes in feel/sound from them. As for 2006-2008 I guess it's supposed to be the transitional period from the mid '00s era pop to the late '00s/early '10s pop.  I know there was the electropop era of the late 2000s/early 2010s, but I'm not sure if the genre is still popular as of 2016. Also funny to think that pop became more electronic in the early 2000s yet we won't get into what is known as Electropop until the late 2000s at least in terms of popularity anyways.

Subject: Re: Pop Music Changes From 2000-2009

Written By: Looney Toon on 07/17/16 at 8:38 am

More mashup pop vids from 2008-2015. All the songs that are included within each mashup are from a specific year that it's supposed to represent. For example 2011 mashup is mainly of 2011 pop.

XLaZ-8IMtt0iNzrwh2Z2hQ
LLA7JMPE_xUail7D_k0s9w
ail7D_k0s9w6q0dsG8fTHY
ZGRQKKaox5QBjYWwZYLYEs
rfFEhd7mk7c

By the end of this year when I assume there will be a 2016 mash up vid. Each video seems to give off a different sound or vibe which is funny as they're just a few years a part from one another yet it's easy to see the change in styles.

Subject: Re: Pop Music Changes From 2000-2009

Written By: #Infinity on 07/17/16 at 10:59 am

For most of the 2000s, pop music was all about the syncopated shuffle. This sound was really born back in 1996, but then grew from there.

1996:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG5ilt3Hrt4

1997:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCwe8K4Sl68

1998:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdVwPCF3zFA

1999:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iL1e-epGpo


It started to decline during the late 2000s, but even as late as the 2007-2008 school year, there were hit songs that used this type of production:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXJXLq1lN7U


Teen pop, meanwhile, went in multiple directions during the beginning of the 2000s. First, you had what can be described as the very tail-end of the new-jack swing movement:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CduA0TULnow

This track's sound can sort of be described as a 12-year progression of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd7dCbEfTs4

Now for a different comparison...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJWtLf4-WWs

Late 80s instrumentation may be from a completely different world than the millennial era, but the use of swift, double-time-swung, percussive, syncopated beats, the foundation of new-jack swing, was all still prevalent here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cDLZqe735k

Ironic that Britney later covered "My Prerogative" in 2004.


On the other hand, several teen pop songs simply emulated the Timbaland shuffle-beat style that was all the rage at the time, just coated in more bubble gummy sounds and melodies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQMlWwIXg3M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5tKILoxrQ4


During the early 2000s, teen pop began to abandon its new-jack swing influences and instead trended towards pop-rock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnfjZBTRXOQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InEiGxSkad8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnQbyj27-oY


This trend lasted pretty much through the end of the decade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KNEZJ6KkLI

Otherwise, 2000s pop didn't really develop much of a distinct style until 2003, when this became a hit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYH7_GzP4Tg

Another distinction between 2000s urban and its late 90s counterpart is that several songs dropped the use of bass almost completely and relied pretty much solely on their percussion, which often sounded heavier than late 90s Timbaland productions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwXeN2FsE7w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGMOD3rVsK8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQBx4PFfzxk



In 2006, Timbaland produced this song for Nelly Furtado, instantly inaugurating a new era of popular music, just like how he did a decade prior.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J3vgcE5i2o

These songs, which I personally call "drumline urban," balanced the use of fast-paced 16ths with a house/dance tempo, making for pop that you could truly groove and move to and not just bounce and sway with. In addition to crunk/snap-influneced pop, this was the definitive sound of the late 2000s, and it manifested itself in several later productions such as these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sMKX22BHeE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQFIKP9rGhQ



Around the turn of 2009, Lady Gaga became a household name, pushing popular music's influences beyond just hip hop and closer to electronic dance territory. While her first album wasn't completely distinct from typical late 2000s music, it was pivotal for starting the transition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Abk1jAONjw

By the end of 2009, 2010s pop had already developed quite a distinct voice for itself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP6XpLQM2Cs

Subject: Re: Pop Music Changes From 2000-2009

Written By: Slim95 on 07/18/16 at 1:28 am

I said this before, but if we're looking at 2000-2009, pretty much 2000-2008 the changes to the sound of music were gradual. 2000-2008 years had a similar sound but some noticeable yet gradual changes progressed throughout the years. But once 2008 hit, the sound totally changed and it felt like we were entering the future musically. That's when we started hearing electronic elements being heavily incorporated into popular music and more uses of autotune. Music started getting more upbeat and dance-like. Around mid to late 2008 the style of music changed quickly and suddenly and it almost felt like it changed overnight. If you gave someone in the year 2000 a song from late 2008, they would probably think it sounds very futuristic. 2008 was a huge year of change for music.

Subject: Re: Pop Music Changes From 2000-2009

Written By: aja675 on 07/18/16 at 1:38 am


More mashup pop vids from 2008-2015. All the songs that are included within each mashup are from a specific year that it's supposed to represent. For example 2011 mashup is mainly of 2011 pop.

XLaZ-8IMtt0iNzrwh2Z2hQ
LLA7JMPE_xUail7D_k0s9w
ail7D_k0s9w6q0dsG8fTHY
ZGRQKKaox5QBjYWwZYLYEs
rfFEhd7mk7c

By the end of this year when I assume there will be a 2016 mash up vid. Each video seems to give off a different sound or vibe which is funny as they're just a few years a part from one another yet it's easy to see the change in styles.
What do you think would be the most recent song you would call dated?

Subject: Re: Pop Music Changes From 2000-2009

Written By: #Infinity on 07/18/16 at 2:45 am


I said this before, but if we're looking at 2000-2009, pretty much 2000-2008 the changes to the sound of music were gradual. 2000-2008 years had a similar sound but some noticeable yet gradual changes progressed throughout the years. But once 2008 hit, the sound totally changed and it felt like we were entering the future musically. That's when we started hearing electronic elements being heavily incorporated into popular music and more uses of autotune. Music started getting more upbeat and dance-like. Around mid to late 2008 the style of music changed quickly and suddenly and it almost felt like it changed overnight. If you gave someone in the year 2000 a song from late 2008, they would probably think it sounds very futuristic. 2008 was a huge year of change for music.


Most music from the 2008-2009 school year sounds closer to stuff like "Fergalicious," "Break It Out," and "Flashing Lights" than "Your Love Is My Drug," "Alejandro," "I Like It," or "DJ Got Us Fallin' in Love." I don't know why you keep exaggerating how changeful the second half of 2008 was. Just because global politics were turning completely upside down does not mean music changed in a synchronized fashion.

Subject: Re: Pop Music Changes From 2000-2009

Written By: Slim95 on 07/18/16 at 2:48 am


Most music from the 2008-2009 school year sounds closer to stuff like "Fergalicious," "Break It Out," and "Flashing Lights" than "Your Love Is My Drug," "Alejandro," "I Like It," or "DJ Got Us Fallin' in Love." I don't know why you keep exaggerating how changeful the second half of 2008 was. Just because global politics were turning completely upside down does not mean music changed in a synchronized fashion.

I disagree. 2008-2009 was definitely the period where music transitioned dramatically.

Subject: Re: Pop Music Changes From 2000-2009

Written By: #Infinity on 07/18/16 at 3:17 am


I disagree. 2008-2009 was definitely the period where music transitioned dramatically.


Please elaborate, because I don't hear where you're coming from at all. Even the 2008-2009 songs that are electropop, like "Poker Face" and "Right Now (Na Na Na)," are of a more primitive, 2000s-esque sound than anything from the early 2010s like "DJ Got Us Fallin' in Love" or "Teenage Dream."

Subject: Re: Pop Music Changes From 2000-2009

Written By: Slim95 on 07/18/16 at 3:32 am


Please elaborate, because I don't hear where you're coming from at all. Even the 2008-2009 songs that are electropop, like "Poker Face" and "Right Now (Na Na Na)," are of a more primitive, 2000s-esque sound than anything from the early 2010s like "DJ Got Us Fallin' in Love" or "Teenage Dream."

I talked about this so many times in other threads and listed many examples of why music changed. All those songs you listed sound nothing like the 2007 sound imo. 2008-2009 felt like a huge transformative period and set the building blocks on the modern music we hear today.

Subject: Re: Pop Music Changes From 2000-2009

Written By: #Infinity on 07/18/16 at 4:38 am


I talked about this so many times in other threads and listed many examples of why music changed. All those songs you listed sound nothing like the 2007 sound imo. 2008-2009 felt like a huge transformative period and set the building blocks on the modern music we hear today.


I can sort of understand Gaga, but then you also refer to songs like "Forever" and "Blame It (On the Alcohol)" as being completely transformative and full-on electronic. They are NOT electropop, they're just typical late 2000s urban music with vague use of synthesizers, but not in a juicy electronica fashion. Both of those songs were really outdated by 2010.

Forever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5rLz5AZBIA

Blame It (On the Alcohol):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ila-hAUXR5U

Yeah, "The Way I Are" is in absolutely no way the same type of song as "Forever" and just sounds like a slightly updated "Get Ur Freak On." "Forever, meanwhile, is totally just like "Yeah 3x" in every way possible. And "Flashing Lights" is more similar to "Izzo (H.O.V.A.)" than it is to "Blame It (On the Alcohol)," which fits directly alongside "Winner" and "E.T."

Subject: Re: Pop Music Changes From 2000-2009

Written By: Looney Toon on 07/18/16 at 9:05 am


What do you think would be the most recent song you would call dated?


Good question. There are quite a bit of 2009 songs that sound pretty dated when compared to 2016 pop music due to the shift in sound and style. For example nearly all the songs from the first mashup vid I linked can be argued to seem dated in terms of their style and sound.


Also I liked Infinity's breakdown. Never would've thought that the 2000's sound would have its roots in late 1990s songs. And the links posted help show off how the sounds/styles within pop music started to change with each passing year. Funny how the changes in sounds were hard to pick up at the time, but when looking in hindsight I can now pick up on the changes. Mainly since the style of pop has changed to what it is now.

Subject: Re: Pop Music Changes From 2000-2009

Written By: mqg96 on 07/18/16 at 9:54 am

I think the change between 2001 & 2003 music was huge, while the change between 2007 & 2009 music was huge.

You can listen to a lot of music from 2001 & 2003 and tell the difference. Same goes for when comparing 2007 & 2009 music.

Subject: Re: Pop Music Changes From 2000-2009

Written By: mqg96 on 07/18/16 at 9:59 am


I talked about this so many times in other threads and listed many examples of why music changed. All those songs you listed sound nothing like the 2007 sound imo. 2008-2009 felt like a huge transformative period and set the building blocks on the modern music we hear today.


When it comes to certain music artists we see today (or who are similar), then yes, this totally applies big time. I remember in 2008 when artists like Flo Rida, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry came on the scene, but when it comes to the type of music, like electropop, that really didn't explode until 2009 started. You can even tell the difference between Katy Perry songs she made in 2008 compared to 2010. I see your point though, you said 2008 and 2009 set the building blocks so overall I agree with what you're saying.

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