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Subject: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 01/29/17 at 9:29 pm

Post nostalgia related to the Silver Age of Nick here.

http://img09.deviantart.net/6641/i/2009/313/2/7/nicktoons_collage_by_astep2stage18.jpg

I'm biased, but this is my favorite era of Nick. Early Spongebob and Fairly Oddparents, Chalkzone, Invader Zim, My Life as a teenage robot, Danny phantom(seasons 1-2), Avatar, Jimmy Neutron, Catscratch, Friday Night Nicktoons, U-Pick Live, ... man, those were the days.

Not to mention, at this time, they STILL had reruns(Rocko's Modern Life, Kablam, and Angry Beavers) or even new episodes(Rugrats, Hey Arnold, CatDog, Rocket Power) of the 90s shows, which created a perfect "equilibrium" of old and new.

Too bad it had to end a bit too soon (4/5 years isn't enough in my books!).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/29/17 at 9:53 pm

In all honesty, the Silver Age to me ended in 2006, when Jimmy Neutron and Invader Zim ended. Aside from that, I purposely agree that the Silver Age was in between 2000-2005.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mxcrashxm on 01/29/17 at 9:54 pm


Post nostalgia related to the Silver Age of Nick here.

http://img09.deviantart.net/6641/i/2009/313/2/7/nicktoons_collage_by_astep2stage18.jpg

I'm biased, but this is my favorite era of Nick. Early Spongebob and Fairly Oddparents, Chalkzone, Invader Zim, My Life as a teenage robot, Danny phantom(seasons 1-2), Jimmy Neutron, Friday Night Nicktoons, U-Pick Live... man, those were the days.

Not to mention, at this time, they STILL had reruns(Rocko's Modern Life, Kablam, and Angry Beavers) or even new episodes(Rugrats, Hey Arnold, CatDog, Rocket Power) of the 90s shows, which created a perfect "equilibrium" of old and new.

Too bad it had to end a bit too soon (4/5 years isn't enough in my books!).



In all honesty, the Silver Age to me ended in 2006, when Jimmy Neutron and Invader Zim ended. Aside from that, I purposely agree that the Silver Age was in between 2000-2005.
So 1998-99 was pretty much a transition from the GA to the SA?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 01/29/17 at 9:57 pm


So 1998-99 was pretty much a transition from the GA to the SA?

Yeah

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 01/30/17 at 5:36 pm

A dedication to early 2000's Nickelodeon:

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Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 01/30/17 at 5:43 pm


A dedication to early 2000's Nickelodeon:

sNKyMM27H64

Nice! Here's more (of course, this is bleeding a bit into Bronze Age Nick)

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Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: 2001 on 01/30/17 at 5:50 pm

I always wished I was smart as Jimmy Neutron.

I also wished the Fairy God Parents were real.

I loved 2001-2004 Nick ;D

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 01/30/17 at 6:28 pm

When do you think the Bronze age began anyways?



I always wished I was smart as Jimmy Neutron.

I also wished the Fairy God Parents were real.

I loved 2001-2004 Nick ;D


I agree! Which show did you prefer, Jimmy Neutron or Fairly Odd Parents?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: 2001 on 01/30/17 at 6:44 pm


When do you think the Bronze age began anyways?


I agree! Which show did you prefer, Jimmy Neutron or Fairly Odd Parents?


Fairly Odd Parents was funny, while Jimmy Neutron was just generally more entertaining to watch. I'd say Jimmy Neutron was a better show, but I have more fond memories of watching Fairly Odd Parents, and I still watch it every now and then :D

What about you?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/30/17 at 7:08 pm


When do you think the Bronze age began anyways?


I think it began when Jimmy Neutron and Invader Zim ended in 2006. The late 2000s were more likely to be the bronze age.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 01/30/17 at 7:17 pm


I think it began when Jimmy Neutron and Invader Zim ended in 2006. The late 2000s were more likely to be the bronze age.

Invader Zim really ended in 2002. But for whatever reason, Nick had some episodes leftover, and they decided to air them on Nicktoons Network in 2006.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: annimal on 01/30/17 at 7:32 pm

no silver age here.  Just a couple of things that may have started a little sooner with my brothers

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/30/17 at 7:41 pm


Invader Zim really ended in 2002. But for whatever reason, Nick had some episodes leftover, and they decided to air them on Nicktoons Network in 2006.


Well that's true. But nobody really saw the last episodes until 2006. Although Jimmy Neutron was worth it more, because it still had new episodes between 2002-2006.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 01/30/17 at 7:56 pm


Well that's true. But nobody really saw the last episodes until 2006.

They were already on the DVDs. Nick just likes being a bunch of lazy bastards with their TV airings, for whatever reason (for instance, they made it so CatDog took like five years to eke out just 5 22-minute episodes).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 01/30/17 at 8:04 pm

Here's moar from the silver age of Nick.

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As a kid, that Snee-Oosh logo was one of the things that seemed a bit scary, yet also really cool and chill at the same time. ;D

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/30/17 at 8:19 pm


Here's moar from the silver age of Nick.

1AdjWvnho7I

As a kid, that Snee-Oosh logo was one of the things that seemed a bit scary, yet also really cool and chill at the same time. ;D


I always liked the Snee-Oosh logo. It always seemed calm to me, while looking like one of my mom's art pieces.


They were already on the DVDs. Nick just likes being a bunch of lazy bastards with their TV airings, for whatever reason (for instance, they made it so CatDog took like five years to eke out just 5 22-minute episodes).


Damn. I guess maybe they were lazy at airing on TV. But yet again, Disney did the same thing in the 2000s.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 01/30/17 at 8:20 pm


Fairly Odd Parents was funny, while Jimmy Neutron was just generally more entertaining to watch. I'd say Jimmy Neutron was a better show, but I have more fond memories of watching Fairly Odd Parents, and I still watch it every now and then :D

What about you?


I loved both growing up, but I prefer Fairly Odd Parents. I just found Timmy, while unlikable at times, to be more relatable. Having grown up with older siblings, I always wanted fairy god parents that would do anything I wished for! Also I found the show to be a little more memorable, like the time Timmy had to save his friends in a video game, or the time when Timmy went back in time to his parents, etc.



I think it began when Jimmy Neutron and Invader Zim ended in 2006. The late 2000s were more likely to be the bronze age.


I could see why 2006 is decent end year for the Bronze age. However, a lot of the changes that people usually have major griefs about with Nickelodeon (ending of 90's/early 00's Nicktoons, SNICK, Nickelodeon Studios, etc.) occurred around 2004-2005. I think it would be more suitable for the Silver Age to end probably in 2005, with the Bronze Age picking up around the same time.



Here's moar from the silver age of Nick.

1AdjWvnho7I

As a kid, that Snee-Oosh logo was one of the things that seemed a bit scary, yet also really cool and chill at the same time. ;D


Yeah I've seen that before! Also I always found the 'Hi I'm Paul!' & Late 90's Era Klasky Csupo Logos much more surreal :o

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 01/30/17 at 8:25 pm


I could see why 2006 is decent end year for the Bronze age. However, a lot of the changes that people usually have major griefs about with Nickelodeon (ending of 90's/early 00's Nicktoons, SNICK, Nickelodeon Studios, etc.) occurred around 2004-2005. I think it would be more suitable for the Silver Age to end probably in 2005, with the Bronze Age picking up around the same time.

It's sad that Nick Studios closed down, but to be fair, by 2001 its attendance had dropped to the single-digits. :o

Perhaps closing it was a smart business move, though it of course upset nostalgic fans who don't know how the industry works (I've found myself drifting in and out of agreeing with these fans).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 01/30/17 at 8:29 pm


I always liked the Snee-Oosh logo. It always seemed calm to me, while looking like one of my mom's art pieces.

Me too. It felt very chill, in a Hey Arnold way of course.


I loved both growing up, but I prefer Fairly Odd Parents. I just found Timmy, while unlikable at times, to be more relatable. Having grown up with older siblings, I always wanted fairy god parents that would do anything I wished for! Also I found the show to be a little more memorable, like the time Timmy had to save his friends in a video game, or the time when Timmy went back in time to his parents, etc.

Fairly Oddparents was great... in the first two or three seasons.

Later on, around late season 3 or season 4, I think it started getting iffy. The humor got more obnoxious and lost its charm, Timmy became one-dimensionally selfish and greedy (rather than a good kid who only occasionally got full of himself), the show began to lose that "relatable" feeling you referenced, everyone suddenly began mocking Wanda for being a "nag", Cosmo ditched the "Phil Hartman" angle and became a hateable character as his voice got higher, etc.

People always say Poof was when the show went downhill, but I think it was a little before that.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Looney Toon on 01/31/17 at 11:20 am


Post nostalgia related to the Silver Age of Nick here.

http://img09.deviantart.net/6641/i/2009/313/2/7/nicktoons_collage_by_astep2stage18.jpg

I'm biased, but this is my favorite era of Nick. Early Spongebob and Fairly Oddparents, Chalkzone, Invader Zim, My Life as a teenage robot, Danny phantom(seasons 1-2), Avatar, Jimmy Neutron, Catscratch, Friday Night Nicktoons, U-Pick Live, ... man, those were the days.

Not to mention, at this time, they STILL had reruns(Rocko's Modern Life, Kablam, and Angry Beavers) or even new episodes(Rugrats, Hey Arnold, CatDog, Rocket Power) of the 90s shows, which created a perfect "equilibrium" of old and new.

Too bad it had to end a bit too soon (4/5 years isn't enough in my books!).


Well it was a bit longer than 4/5 years. To me the Silver age of Nick would be from 1998-2005 which is around 8 years. I'm with you on being a bit biased on this era. The only time where you could watch Invader Zim, Doug, Rugrats, Rocket Power, Teenage Robot, Jimmy Neutron etc all on the same channel. Even had other things like Tiny Toons and Animaniacs running on the channel (between 2002-2005). Was a great time for Nick. Silver Age had Avatar Last Airbenders which is one of the highest rated animated shows on TV that is only matched by a few according to critics/public reviews. 

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/31/17 at 2:24 pm


Well it was a bit longer than 4/5 years. To me the Silver age of Nick would be from 1998-2005 which is around 8 years. I'm with you on being a bit biased on this era. The only time where you could watch Invader Zim, Doug, Rugrats, Rocket Power, Teenage Robot, Jimmy Neutron etc all on the same channel. Even had other things like Tiny Toons and Animaniacs running on the channel (between 2002-2005). Was a great time for Nick. Silver Age had Avatar Last Airbenders which is one of the highest rated animated shows on TV that is only matched by a few according to critics/public reviews.


Frankly, I think Zelek's view of the silver age is rather different, since he was born in the mid 90s. I for myself would rather agree with his view though, since Nickelodeon was somehow strange in the late 2000s. Between 2004-2006, when I started to watch regular Nickelodeon, it was more relaxed and consistent. Between 2007-2009, it was just when a lot of their more interesting shows were on Nicktoons Network (e.g. Kappa Mikey, Speed Racer: TNG).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: musicguy93 on 01/31/17 at 6:11 pm

I thought the Silver Age of Nick started around 1998?  ???

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 01/31/17 at 6:40 pm


I thought the Silver Age of Nick started around 1998?  ???

Depends on who you ask.

To most people, it seems the entire 90s was the golden age of Nick.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: annimal on 01/31/17 at 7:35 pm

I miss the good old ball of slime

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 01/31/17 at 8:39 pm


I thought the Silver Age of Nick started around 1998?  ???


Generally speaking it look like this (I'll also throw in some 'generationology' so you get a bit of the picture):

Generation X's Prime Nickelodeon Years:



Pinwheel Era: 1977-1978 and 1978-1979
Quintessential Year: 1978

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'Silver Ball' Era (First Bronze Age, ironically): 1979-1980 through 1983-1984
Quintessential Year: 1982

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Generation X/Y Transitional Phase




'Double Dare' Era (First Silver Age): 1984-1985 through 1990-1991
Quintessential Year: 1990

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Millennials's Prime Nickelodeon Years




Nicktoons Era (Golden Age) 1991-1992 through 1997-1998
Quintessential Year: 1995

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Klasky Csupo Era (Second Silver Age, and the era being discussed) 1998-1999 through 2004-2005
Quintessential Year: 2002

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Generation Y/Z Transitional Phase




TeeNick Era (Second Bronze Age) 2005-2006 through 2008-2009
Quintessential Year: 2007

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Homelanders's Prime Nickelodeon Years




Modern Era (Dark Ages) 2009-2010 through the present
Quintessential Year: Yet to have been determined

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Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/31/17 at 8:49 pm

The quintessential year for the dark ages should be 2015, since that was when Nickelodeon had all of their crappiest shows at the time.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: annimal on 01/31/17 at 9:42 pm

Hey! I watched Double Dare all the time and there was an orange slime ball logo.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/01/17 at 6:48 am

I'm going to agree with ZeldaFan that Catscratch was the last good Nicktoon, and a very underrated one.

Like, I don't understand why reviewers seemed to hate the show so much. There was nothing wrong with it, it was a charming and funny show.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/01/17 at 8:04 am

A show from Nick's Silver Age I remember liking, but everyone else hated, was All Grown Up.

I get the feeling I liked it only because I was a dumb little kid with no taste. :P If I were a bit older when I saw it, perhaps I'd think it was a pointless, teenybopper spinoff like everyone else does.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 02/01/17 at 8:15 am


I'm going to agree with ZeldaFan that Catscratch was the last good Nicktoon, and a very underrated one.

Like, I don't understand why reviewers seemed to hate the show so much. There was nothing wrong with it, it was a charming and funny show.


I agree! After Catscratch you had some pretty atrocious Nicktoons on the network like Mr Meaty, Kappa Mikey, Tak & The Power of Juju (btw does anybody remember the games? those were fun :D), and Back at the Barnyard...



A show from Nick's Silver Age I remember liking, but everyone else hated, was All Grown Up.

I get the feeling I liked it only because I was a dumb little kid with no taste. :P If I were a bit older when I saw it, perhaps I'd think it was a pointless, teenybopper spinoff like everyone else does.


Honestly, even as a kid I never really liked All Grown Up. I would watch it if there wasn't anything else on, but it wasn't something I'd watch by choice. Same goes with a lot of mid/late 2000's teen targeted (although failing to even get their attentions ;D) cartoons like 6teen and Total Drama Island, they just seemed bland and unfunny to me.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/01/17 at 8:31 am

Another show from the Silver age that I think was underrated was My Life as a Teenage Robot. It had a great art style which took inspiration from the 50s/60s, and it balanced action with comedy.

Unfortunately, most people on the Internet don't actually want to talk about the SHOW, they just want about its "waifu" factor. :P

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/01/17 at 11:35 am


Another show from the Silver age that I think was underrated was My Life as a Teenage Robot. It had a great art style which took inspiration from the 50s/60s, and it balanced action with comedy.

Unfortunately, most people on the Internet don't actually want to talk about the SHOW, they just want about its "waifu" factor. :P

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Anyways if we're talking my favorite Silver Age Nick shows I'd say either Invader Zim or Avatar. Although I also loved Chalkzone and Danny Phantom.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 02/01/17 at 11:45 am

While most of my memories of Nickelodeon were with my cousins, I'll say that my best memory of the silver age Nick was the Nicktoons Summer Beach House event that occurred in 2002 or 2003 which had a huge lineup of Nicktoons which included Rugrats, CatDog, Spongebob Squarepants, Invader Zim, Jimmy Neutron, Fairly Odd Parents, Rocket Power, Hey Arnold, etc. It was a bunch variety of Nicktoons back then when ALL Nicktoons were treated equally unlike today and the past almost decade or so. BTW, the silver age of Nick lasted from 1998-2004. It was over by 2005.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/01/17 at 4:21 pm


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Anyways if we're talking my favorite Silver Age Nick shows I'd say either Invader Zim or Avatar. Although I also loved Chalkzone and Danny Phantom.

I'm serious man, it's not just me projecting! :P

Whenever people talk about the show on the Internet, they just wanna talk about how they had a crush on Jenny, never the actual quality of the show itself, what their favorite episodes were, etc. It disappoints me, because it was a cool show.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/01/17 at 4:31 pm


Whenever people talk about the show on the Internet, they just wanna talk about how they had a crush on Jenny, never the actual quality of the show itself, what their favorite episodes were, etc. It disappoints me, because it was a cool show.


Okay, if you're talking about the people who have Jenny as her waifu, it's kinda weird. Especially when I watched the show as a kid, when I didn't know that people could have sexual attractions towards a teenage robot.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mxcrashxm on 02/01/17 at 4:42 pm


I agree!



Another show from the Silver age that I think was underrated was My Life as a Teenage Robot. It had a great art style which took inspiration from the 50s/60s, and it balanced action with comedy.



I'm going to agree with ZeldaFan that Catscratch was the last good Nicktoon, and a very underrated one.

Like, I don't understand why reviewers seemed to hate the show so much. There was nothing wrong with it, it was a charming and funny show.
Me 3! I watched both of those shows and they were actually decent. It's a shame that both didn't last long. My Life as a Teenage Robot was gone by 2005 and Catscratch was gone by 2006.

Oh, another one that didn't last long was the X's. It seems it lasted for only a year and quickly disappeared.

Here's the theme song for My Life as a Teenage Robot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49WPb5XYvac

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/01/17 at 4:47 pm


Oh, another one that didn't last long was the X's. It seems it lasted for only a year and quickly disappeared.

Meh, I didn't really like The X's much, other than Glowface (the hilarious villain). It felt rather bland.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mxcrashxm on 02/01/17 at 4:49 pm


Meh, I didn't really like The X's much, other than Glowface (the hilarious villain). It felt rather bland.
Agreed. I didn't watch it much either.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/01/17 at 10:00 pm


I agree! After Catscratch you had some pretty atrocious Nicktoons on the network like Mr Meaty, Kappa Mikey, Tak & The Power of Juju (btw does anybody remember the games? those were fun :D), and Back at the Barnyard...

When it comes to Back at the Barnyard, I actually liked the movie it was spun off from, it was a guilty pleasure. It was funny in a fratboy-type way, and had good morals for kids, that thankfully weren't too heavy-handed. Based on the reviews I've read, I may be the only one on earth who liked that movie. :P

However, I'd agree with reviewers that the show the movie spawned was cheesy and terrible, as well as destroying the morals of the movie. In the movie, Otis grew up, cut down on the mischief-making, and learned that "A strong man stands up for himself, a stronger man stands up for others". But in the show, he's back to being a cowardly moron.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/02/17 at 12:02 am


While most of my memories of Nickelodeon were with my cousins, I'll say that my best memory of the silver age Nick was the Nicktoons Summer Beach House event that occurred in 2002 or 2003 which had a huge lineup of Nicktoons which included Rugrats, CatDog, Spongebob Squarepants, Invader Zim, Jimmy Neutron, Fairly Odd Parents, Rocket Power, Hey Arnold, etc. It was a bunch variety of Nicktoons back then when ALL Nicktoons were treated equally unlike today and the past almost decade or so. BTW, the silver age of Nick lasted from 1998-2004. It was over by 2005.

I think 2005 was still silver age Nick because they still had reruns of the 90s shows, as well as their last good shows - Avatar and Catscratch - premiering that year. Not to mention, the episodes of SpongeBob aired that year or in early 06 (i.e. Fear of a Krabby Patty, Krabs vs. Plankton, Selling Out, Krusty Towers) were probably the most well-made of the post-movie era.

In 2006, Cyma Zarghami took over, and they began filling the schedule with too much SpongeBob, and not enough old shows. Also, SpongeBob truly began to go downhill in mid 06 with the All That Glitters episode. And the unholy force known as the Naked Brothers Band were unleashed that year, with their music videos playing on Nick constantly (though their show didn't start until 2007).

That's a problem that still pervades Nick to this day - TOO MUCH SpongeBob! Other shows need love too.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/02/17 at 6:16 am


When it comes to Back at the Barnyard, I actually liked the movie it was spun off from, it was a guilty pleasure. It was funny in a fratboy-type way, and had good morals for kids, that thankfully weren't too heavy-handed. Based on the reviews I've read, I may be the only one on earth who liked that movie. :P


Well, I did like the movie as a kid. It seemed more high quality than the TV show it spawned. Although, the first episodes were okay, but weren't as good as the movie. For anything related to Barnyard, the movie was definitely my favorite.


However, I'd agree with reviewers that the show the movie spawned was cheesy and terrible, as well as destroying the morals of the movie. In the movie, Otis grew up, cut down on the mischief-making, and learned that "A strong man stands up for himself, a stronger man stands up for others". But in the show, he's back to being a cowardly moron.


Not to mention the show had very weird references that most kids would never get. I could get some of them, since they were related towards baseball. But aside from that, they were pretty lame for most kids.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/02/17 at 9:18 am


A dedication to early 2000's Nickelodeon:

sNKyMM27H64

I've always loved that "Not Just Cartoons, We're Nicktoons" rap. :)

Must admit, as time goes on, it's getting harder and harder for me to grasp a world where SpongeBob was in its pre-movie phase, when the show was a global phenomenon that was beloved, rather than a worn-out institution that should be put to rest. I miss those days. :\'(

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 02/02/17 at 9:55 am


I've always loved that "Not Just Cartoons, We're Nicktoons" rap. :)

Must admit, as time goes on, it's getting harder and harder for me to grasp a world where SpongeBob was in its pre-movie phase, when the show was a global phenomenon that was beloved, rather than a worn-out institution that should be put to rest. I miss those days. :\'(


No problem! Also do any of you guys remember those Nickelodeon movies back in the day? Rugrats The Movie, Hey Arnold The Movie, The Wild Thornberrys Movie, etc.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/02/17 at 9:59 am

Yeah, I do.

I remember a lot of people (fans and critics alike) really HATING the Hey Arnold movie and I'm not sure why. As a kid, I thought it was fun movie. It didn't have the morals and depth of some Hey Arnold episodes, but eh, not all episodes of that show were deep. Some were more straightforward or "fun".

I guess they were mad because that movie presumably replaced the Jungle Movie, but they're making the Jungle Movie now so there's no point in complaining anymore.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 02/02/17 at 10:10 am


A dedication to early 2000's Nickelodeon:

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This is pretty much my Silver Age Nickelodeon experience right here. I didn't watch Nick much after 2001, thought I did occasionally check out shows like Danny Phantom, My Life as a Teenage Robot, Jimmy Neutron, etc. in the mid '00s. I don't think I've watched Nick at all since 2007, though. I will say, though, as a Golden Age Nick kid, the Silver Age actually is better than most '90s kids give it credit for. Sure, I prefer the shows I grew up with, but Nick still had a lot of quality Nicktoons in the '00s like the ones I mentioned earlier, plus Invader Zim, As Told by Ginger and the like. Avatar was pretty good as well.

As for my favorite Silver Age shows, I tend to prefer the live-action shows from that era over the cartoons, as I was in middle school by 2000. I used to watch Caitlin's Way, Taina, and 100 Deeds for Eddie McDowd religiously back in the day. How about The Brothers Garcia? Does anybody remember that show? I loved it, but I feel that it's become completely forgotten over the years. Definitely an early '00s gem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feDh2vAdzuk

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/02/17 at 10:21 am


I will say, though, as a Golden Age Nick kid, the Silver Age actually is better than most '90s kids give it credit for. Sure, I prefer the shows I grew up with, but Nick still had a lot of quality Nicktoons in the '00s like the ones I mentioned earlier, plus Invader Zim, As Told by Ginger and the like. Avatar was pretty good as well.

I'd say more people need to be educated on the clear difference between early 00s and late 00s Nick.

Early-Mid 00s (Danny Phantom, Jimmy Neutron, pre-movie SpongeBob, Avatar, Hey Arnold) = Good
Late 00s (Fanboy and Chum Chum, post-movie SpongeBob, Back at the Barnyard, Naked Brothers Band) = Bad

Simples.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/02/17 at 11:10 am

You know it's funny, I'm reading some forum posts from back when this era of Nick was going on, and they hated it at the time! Heck, most of the ToonZone or Usenet Nick posts from 2000-2004 are along these lines:

"Klasky-Csupo sucks and needs to stop making cartoons!"
"The new Rugrats episodes with Dil and/or Kimi are terrible."
"SNICK is terrible now."
"Zim is the best show ever and he's my waifu and I hate Nick stuff if there's no zim in it."
"Spongebob is stupid and it's for babies." (yes, they even said this about seasons 1-3. Blasphemous, I know)
"Chalkzone is stupid and it's for babies."
"CN is the king of animation, they have the awesome Cartoon Cartoons, what does Nick have? They ain't got nothing!"
"Stupid Nick spootheads canceled the almighty ZIM, may doom rain down on their pig-filthy human earth stupid-heads!"
"Jimmy Neutron is a Dexter's Lab ripoff!"
"Don't watch Nick today because Rocket Power, the worst show ever, is going to air! You've been warned!"
"Anything Nick made post-1996 sucks."

Yet nowadays, I see people referring to early 00s Nick as the "good ol' days" (not just on this forum, but other places too). I wonder if, in the distant future, kids who are watching Nick now will look upon the 2010s as the "good ol' days", "back when Nick was good". :P

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: annimal on 02/02/17 at 1:04 pm

I cant find the logo I remember  no it wasn't a ball

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/02/17 at 1:26 pm


I'd say more people need to be educated on the clear difference between early 00s and late 00s Nick.

Early-Mid 00s (Danny Phantom, Jimmy Neutron, pre-movie SpongeBob, Avatar, Hey Arnold) = Good
Late 00s (Fanboy and Chum Chum, post-movie SpongeBob, Back at the Barnyard, Naked Brothers Band) = Bad

Simples.


Late 2000s Nick was rather mediocre to most people. At least it wasn't erratic garbage every single day, with Spongebob and FOP airing so much.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/02/17 at 1:48 pm


kids who are watching Nick now will look upon the 2010s as the "good ol' days", "back when Nick was good". :P


Except I'll school them with how I watched Nickelodeon during the mid and late 2000s, and that everything used to be better with the old logo. Especially when they don't remember it.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/02/17 at 5:56 pm


You know it's funny, I'm reading some forum posts from back when this era of Nick was going on, and they hated it at the time! Heck, most of the ToonZone or Usenet Nick posts from 2000-2004 are along these lines:

"Klasky-Csupo sucks and needs to stop making cartoons!"
"The new Rugrats episodes with Dil and/or Kimi are terrible."
"SNICK is terrible now."
"Zim is the best show ever and he's my waifu and I hate Nick stuff if there's no zim in it."
"Spongebob is stupid and it's for babies." (yes, they even said this about seasons 1-3. Blasphemous, I know)
"Chalkzone is stupid and it's for babies."
"CN is the king of animation, they have the awesome Cartoon Cartoons, what does Nick have? They ain't got nothing!"
"Stupid Nick spootheads canceled the almighty ZIM, may doom rain down on their pig-filthy human earth stupid-heads!"
"Jimmy Neutron is a Dexter's Lab ripoff!"
"Don't watch Nick today because Rocket Power, the worst show ever, is going to air! You've been warned!"
"Anything Nick made post-1996 sucks."

Yet nowadays, I see people referring to early 00s Nick as the "good ol' days" (not just on this forum, but other places too). I wonder if, in the distant future, kids who are watching Nick now will look upon the 2010s as the "good ol' days", "back when Nick was good". :P


Remember my infamous saying.

"If it's Modern then it SUCKS!"

When 2000-2004/5 was current everyone hated everything from that era due to them being current things. Now after 10+ years people say that those days are Nick's last decent days.  ::) By 2027 or so people will say that 2010s Nick were the last decent days (Crazy to think, right?).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/02/17 at 6:03 pm


Now after 10+ years people say that those days are Nick's last decent days.  ::)

Except the people who say that are right. ;)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/02/17 at 6:40 pm


Except the people who say that are right. ;)


Hey I like Nick's Silver Age and I never hated them at the time. My top 5 favorite nick shows mainly include Silver age shows.

#1 - Avatar Last Airbender
#2 - Invader Zim
#3 - Chalkzone
#4 - Hey Arnold
#5 - Rugrats

Silver Age allowed me to watch cool new shows and the older ones. So I never complained one bit.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/02/17 at 6:44 pm


Hey I like Nick's Silver Age and I never hated them at the time. My top 5 favorite nick shows mainly include Silver age shows.

#1 - Avatar Last Airbender
#2 - Invader Zim
#3 - Chalkzone
#4 - Hey Arnold
#5 - Rugrats

Silver Age allowed me to watch cool new shows and the older ones. So I never complained one bit.

I'm agreeing with you, not disagreeing. The people who say the Silver Age was the last good time for Nick are right. :P

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/02/17 at 7:44 pm


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Love this song, and the scene in the Jimmy Neutron movie with it, but I wish they used the original Kim Wilde version of it, it's more badass. This cover version they made is fruity, and lacks the bleak feeling of the original. :P

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/02/17 at 8:20 pm


I'm agreeing with you, not disagreeing. The people who say the Silver Age was the last good time for Nick are right. :P


You know what's funny? It seems even Nick has noticed that the Silver Age has a bit of a following from a lot of Nick fans. I think it was mentioned on here before, but before The Splat was just 90s Nick shows. But from this quote from Wikipedia

The Splat is a programming block that airs nightly on TeenNick. The block shows reruns of classic 1980s, 1990s and early-mid 2000s children's programming, mostly shows that aired on Nickelodeon during their original runs. The block airs eight hours, running every night from 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. Its name and logo comes from Nickelodeon's historic logo, a white brush-printed wordmark on an amorphous orange background (often manifested as a "splat" shape, but which was frequently rendered in many others), which the network used from 1984 to 2009.

So yeah now the splat includes 80s Early Nick years, 90s Golden Nick Years, and even 00s Silver Nick Years. I can easily see shows such as Teenage Robot, Invader Zim, Chalkzone, old Fairly Odd Parents, Old Spongebob etc being featured with Hey Arnold, Doug, Rocko's Modern Life etc. Probably because during the Silver Age they all were airing at the same time. The current Splat channel is literally bringing us back to the early 2000s in terms of full lineup.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: nintieskid999 on 02/02/17 at 8:25 pm


Remember my infamous saying.

"If it's Modern then it SUCKS!"

When 2000-2004/5 was current everyone hated everything from that era due to them being current things. Now after 10+ years people say that those days are Nick's last decent days.  ::) By 2027 or so people will say that 2010s Nick were the last decent days (Crazy to think, right?).


Some times just suck in general. Other than the great movies produced then, I don't see anyone too nostalgic for the 1930s.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/02/17 at 8:30 pm


You know what's funny? It seems even Nick has noticed that the Silver Age has a bit of a following from a lot of Nick fans. I think it was mentioned on here before, but before The Splat was just 90s Nick shows. But from this quote from Wikipedia

In all honesty I think Nick is like Saturday Night Live - the version YOU grew up with is the best one. I even know older folks who miss when Nick was called the "Pinwheel Channel" back in the late 70s.


So yeah now the splat includes 80s Early Nick years, 90s Golden Nick Years, and even 00s Silver Nick Years. I can easily see shows such as Teenage Robot, Invader Zim, Chalkzone, old Fairly Odd Parents, Old Spongebob etc being featured with Hey Arnold, Doug, Rocko's Modern Life etc. Probably because during the Silver Age they all were airing at the same time. The current Splat channel is literally bringing us back to the early 2000s in terms of full lineup.

True. That's why they changed their name from "90s Are All That" to "The Splat", so they could include 80s and early-mid 2000s stuff in there as well.

But the thing I don't like about The Splat is that they seem to just air the same five shows over and over again on a continuous loop: CatDog, Doug, Hey Arnold!, Rocket Power, Rugrats. They've occasionally shown other shows too, like ChalkZone and As Told By Ginger, but they only air those like once and never again.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/02/17 at 8:48 pm


Some times just suck in general. Other than the great movies produced then, I don't see anyone too nostalgic for the 1930s.


I like the cartoons, music (love that Jazz), and comics, but I don't care for a lot of other things from the 1930s to be honest.


In all honesty I think Nick is like Saturday Night Live - the version YOU grew up with is the best one. I even know older folks who miss when Nick was called the "Pinwheel Channel" back in the late 70s.
True. That's why they changed their name from "90s Are All That" to "The Splat", so they could include 80s and early-mid 2000s stuff in there as well.

But the thing I don't like about The Splat is that they seem to just air the same five shows over and over again on a continuous loop: CatDog, Doug, Hey Arnold!, Rocket Power, Rugrats. They've occasionally shown other shows too, like ChalkZone and As Told By Ginger, but they only air those like once and never again.



Yeah, I guess Nick is one of them channels where you will only care for the era of shows you may  have experienced as a kid or eras that had shows appearing in other eras.  As for the Splat showing the same 5 shows it's the reason I don't watch the Splat very much. It's not a bad channel and I'm fine with channels that don't let shows die away into forgotten realms, but airing the same 5 shows on loop is terrible and grows tiring. Imagine is Disney made a new Toon Disney and they just reran the same 5 Disney Afternoon shows. As much as I like seeing those 5 shows the reason people REALLY liked the old eras was because of the list of shows they could enjoy. Not just a handful, but a full on playlist of shows.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/03/17 at 3:17 pm

Here's even more from silver age Nick.

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Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/03/17 at 7:40 pm

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/80/Tv_hi_wildthornberrys.jpg

Does anyone else feel like The wild thornberrys would've been a much better show if it focused on the awesome character of Nigel and his adventures around the world, rather than his daughter who was so homely-looking she could turn Medusa to stone? :P

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/03/17 at 8:12 pm


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/80/Tv_hi_wildthornberrys.jpg

Does anyone else feel like The wild thornberrys would've been a much better show if it focused on the awesome character of Nigel and his adventures around the world, rather than his daughter who was so homely-looking she could turn Medusa to stone? :P


Nah. The show was okay with just the family going to exotic places, so they can find cool animals. I actually liked it better with his daughters being around.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Tyrannosaurus Rex on 02/04/17 at 5:37 pm


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/80/Tv_hi_wildthornberrys.jpg

Does anyone else feel like The wild thornberrys would've been a much better show if it focused on the awesome character of Nigel and his adventures around the world, rather than his daughter who was so homely-looking she could turn Medusa to stone? :P


I actually do find it better if the show centers on Nigel and his world expeditions.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/07/17 at 5:00 am


Yeah I've seen that before! Also I always found the 'Hi I'm Paul!' & Late 90's Era Klasky Csupo Logos much more surreal :o

It's funny, I've heard people talk about that Klasky Csupo logo as if it was the scariest most heart-pounding thing in the world in their childhoods... yet as a kid, I never really had a problem with it. :P Maybe I was the odd kid out? ;D

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/12/17 at 10:18 pm

http://images.uncyclomedia.co/uncyclopedia/en/d/dd/Heyarnold.jpg

Fun fact: Hey Arnold! (which I consider both a golden age Nick show and a silver age one, because of how long it ran) was intended to end with the Journal TV movie, according to production codes. You know, the episode that explained Arnold's parents' backstory and would have set up the Jungle Movie (which they're making as we speak).

But for some reason, Nick aired the episodes out of order, and the last seen episode turned out to be... Pheobe farting into a microphone.

Yes, a great show like Hey Arnold went out with not a bang, but a whimper... or rather, a fart (ugh). :P

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/13/17 at 7:54 am


It's funny, I've heard people talk about that Klasky Csupo logo as if it was the scariest most heart-pounding thing in the world in their childhoods... yet as a kid, I never really had a problem with it. :P Maybe I was the odd kid out? ;D


As a logo enthusiast, I never got scared of the Klasky Csupo logo. It's actually one of my favorite logos out there.  ;D

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/01/17 at 3:32 pm

Here's more goodness from the silver age of Nick... the VERY tail-end of it. This was around early 2004, the last time we saw shows like As Told by Ginger, Rugrats, Hey Arnold, Rocket Power, Wild Thornberrys, Catdog, and pre-movie Spongebob. :\'(

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As I've mentioned before, this video also contains one of the last Cocoa Puffs commercials before the bird stopped being a skater, because his alimony even took his clothes. ;D

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/01/17 at 3:37 pm


http://images.uncyclomedia.co/uncyclopedia/en/d/dd/Heyarnold.jpg

Fun fact: Hey Arnold! (which I consider both a golden age Nick show and a silver age one, because of how long it ran) was intended to end with the Journal TV movie, according to production codes. You know, the episode that explained Arnold's parents' backstory and would have set up the Jungle Movie (which they're making as we speak).

But for some reason, Nick aired the episodes out of order, and the last seen episode turned out to be... Pheobe farting into a microphone.

Yes, a great show like Hey Arnold went out with not a bang, but a whimper... or rather, a fart (ugh). :P


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/03/2f/c3/032fc390b13d0983767a67c0ffe6bed8.gif

What a way to end the series.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/01/17 at 3:44 pm

And here's more from the silver age

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Zeldafan posted this in another thread.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/01/17 at 3:52 pm


And here's more from the silver age

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Zeldafan posted this in another thread.


Sheesh you know 2001 is old when you still see ads for buying VHS tapes. That video does bring me back, though.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/01/17 at 7:49 pm


Sheesh you know 2001 is old when you still see ads for buying VHS tapes. That video does bring me back, though.

You check out the 2004 video also?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/01/17 at 7:55 pm


You check out the 2004 video also?


Yeah, I miss the wacky vibe of them 2004 commercials. Also long live the xtreme era Cocoa bird. :\'(

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/01/17 at 8:06 pm


Yeah, I miss the wacky vibe of them 2004 commercials. Also long live the xtreme era Cocoa bird. :\'(

Plus, as I mentioned before, spring/summer 2004 was the last time Nick regularly played shows like As Told by Ginger, Rugrats, Hey Arnold, Rocket Power, Wild Thornberrys, Catdog, pre-movie Spongebob, SNICK, and Friday Night Nicktoons, so long live those too.

http://www.i2symbol.com/images/symbols/signs/peace_symbol_u262E_icon_128x128.png

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/01/17 at 8:12 pm


Plus, as I mentioned before, spring/summer 2004 was the last time Nick regularly played shows like As Told by Ginger, Rugrats, Hey Arnold, Rocket Power, Wild Thornberrys, Catdog, pre-movie Spongebob, SNICK, and Friday Night Nicktoons, so long live those too.

http://www.i2symbol.com/images/symbols/signs/peace_symbol_u262E_icon_128x128.png


Which makes it easy to see why the first half of '04 was the last period for Silver Age Nickelodeon. Looking at 2004 from the year 2017 the year 2004 still has somewhat of a classic Nickelodeon vibe to it.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/01/17 at 8:26 pm


Which makes it easy to see why the first half of '04 was the last period for Silver Age Nickelodeon. Looking at 2004 from the year 2017 the year 2004 still has somewhat of a classic Nickelodeon vibe to it.

I agree, but sometimes I feel tempted to include the second half of 2004 in the silver age of Nick. Reason being because the SpongeBob Movie came out then, and it was a very fitting farewell to old Spongebob ("Ocean mannnn, take me by the hand" ;)).

I also sometimes feel like 2005 is part of silver age Nick, because Cyma Zarghami hadn't taken over yet, there was still a variety of shows in the schedule and not just endless Spongebob reruns, Avatar TLA (one of the best Nick shows, bar none) came out that year, and Catscratch came out that year which was the last good Nicktoon imho.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/04/17 at 3:47 am


Also long live the xtreme era Cocoa bird. :\'(

As I've suggested before, the reason Sonny isn't extreme anymore is because in mid 2004 his alimony took everything, even his clothes.

The lesson learned here is to never ever get married. Just look at what happened to Brendan Fraser. ;D

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/04/17 at 7:44 am


As I've suggested before, the reason Sonny isn't extreme anymore is because in mid 2004 his alimony took everything, even his clothes.

The lesson learned here is to never ever get married. Just look at what happened to Brendan Fraser. ;D


Jeesh, after he got married he became even more of a nut job going by his latest commercials. Pre-Marrage he was an xtreme bird that would show kids how cool it was to eat some CoCo puffs. After marriage he doesn't wear cloths and is fighting to control his sanity as the sight of Coco Puffs makes him go wacko.  :o

I'm still curious on if Xtreme sports will ever come back. Are kids still interested in the wicked vibe of extreme sports?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/12/17 at 3:01 pm

Whelp, looks like nobody cares about silver age Nick anymore. :\'(

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/12/17 at 3:08 pm


Whelp, looks like nobody cares about silver age Nick anymore. :\'(


I care for the fact that 2005 was my favorite year for Nickelodeon.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/12/17 at 4:56 pm


I care for the fact that 2005 was my favorite year for Nickelodeon.

Mine is 2004. It was Nick's only year where you could watch As Told by Ginger, Rugrats, Hey Arnold, Rocket Power, Wild Thornberrys, Catdog, pre-movie Spongebob, Ned's Declassified, Drake and Josh, Danny Phantom, SNICK, and Friday Night Nicktoons all at the same time. :)

A near-perfect equilibrium of early 2000s Nick and mid-2000s Nick. If Avatar came out in 2004 instead of 2005, it would've been a perfect equilibrium.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/12/17 at 5:07 pm


Mine is 2004. It was Nick's only year where you could watch As Told by Ginger, Rugrats, Hey Arnold, Rocket Power, Wild Thornberrys, Catdog, pre-movie Spongebob, Ned's Declassified, Drake and Josh, Danny Phantom, SNICK, and Friday Night Nicktoons all at the same time. :) A near-perfect equilibrium of early 2000s Nick and mid-2000s Nick.


I remember liking Nickelodeon by late 2004. It was after when Wild Thornberrys, Hey Arnold, and Rugrats ended, but they were still airing reruns of it by 2005. I even got a Spongebob pinata that I got for my birthday in 2004. But for 2005, it just seemed like a great year for Nick because of Avatar and Catscratch premiering that year. It was also when most Spongebob episodes were still made before the movie, even though Season 4 premiered at the time.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 03/12/17 at 5:28 pm


Mine is 2004. It was Nick's only year where you could watch As Told by Ginger, Rugrats, Hey Arnold, Rocket Power, Wild Thornberrys, Catdog, pre-movie Spongebob, Ned's Declassified, Drake and Josh, Danny Phantom, SNICK, and Friday Night Nicktoons all at the same time. :)

A near-perfect equilibrium of early 2000s Nick and mid-2000s Nick. If Avatar came out in 2004 instead of 2005, it would've been a perfect equilibrium.


For Nicktoons and slime shows 2002 or 2003. For TeenNick & live-action shows 2004 or 2005.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/15/17 at 3:19 pm


So 1998-99 was pretty much a transition from the GA to the SA?

Yeah

1997-98 imo... 1998-99 Silver Age nick was already there imo.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/15/17 at 3:20 pm


I also sometimes feel like 2005 is part of silver age Nick, because Cyma Zarghami hadn't taken over yet, there was still a variety of shows in the schedule and not just endless Spongebob reruns, Avatar TLA (one of the best Nick shows, bar none) came out that year, and Catscratch came out that year which was the last good Nicktoon imho.

Sigh... you're focusing too much on the Nicktoons. You need to focus on their programming as a whole. 2004 saw them enter their teennick phase, that pretty much ended their silver age.
2003-04 was pretty much the gap just like 1997-98 was. But to each his own, I guess. ;)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/15/17 at 3:27 pm

I see nobody has conceded with me over the brilliance of As Told by Ginger's theme song (even if you hated the show)... philistines, the lot of you!

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/15/17 at 3:27 pm


Sigh... you're focusing too much on the Nicktoons. You need to focus on their programming as a whole. 2004 saw them enter their teennick phase, that pretty much ended their silver age.
2003-04 was pretty much the gap just like 1997-98 was.


By early 2004, we already had them go with their TeenNick phase thanks to Drake and Josh. It was already over by 2007 (when they had iCarly), even though Drake and Josh was still airing until late 2008.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/15/17 at 5:26 pm

Video nostalgia for this thread 8) I think I watched everything from the cartoons to the live-action shows.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzaZEZrDpQ0&t=1246s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_LEF3Tw_KY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP4gx6pHXvU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruAD1SHrHzw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KO6KNjZVVw



Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/15/17 at 5:33 pm

Good stuff, I like.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/15/17 at 5:43 pm


Good stuff, I like.
It's a shame the Silver age didn't last long like the GA. I would have loved for it to last up until about 2010.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/15/17 at 5:48 pm


It's a shame the Silver age didn't last long like the GA. I would have loved for it to last up until about 2010.


I don't think it would last long by then. The new Nickelodeon logo was changed by 2009, and every show that was on the Silver/Bronze Ages (aside from Spongebob and FOP) ended around 2007/2008.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/15/17 at 5:48 pm


It's a shame the Silver age didn't last long like the GA. I would have loved for it to last up until about 2010.

It's Cyma's fault, as I've elaborated before, that the silver age didn't last longer.

Just compare Nick's schedule in January 2006 to how it was in November 2006; by late 06, there were way more endless reruns of Spongebob and much less variety in the shows.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/15/17 at 5:54 pm


It's Cyma's fault, as I've elaborated before, that the silver age didn't last longer.

Just compare Nick's schedule in January 2006 to how it was in November 2006; by late 06, there were way more endless reruns of Spongebob and much less variety in the shows.


Unless you had Nicktoons Network at the time, which had more variety within its schedules.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/15/17 at 5:59 pm


It's Cyma's fault, as I've elaborated before, that the silver age didn't last longer.

Just compare Nick's schedule in January 2006 to how it was in November 2006; by late 06, there were way more endless reruns of Spongebob and much less variety in the shows.


Silver Age lasted about as long as the golden age didn't it? Golden Age was from 1991-1997/1998 so about 7 to 8 years. Silver Age is from 1997/1998 - 2004/2005 (ending with Avatar Last Airbender and Catscratch) so about 7 to 9 years.

Funny enough despite it being called the Silver Age I actually enjoy it a bit more than the Golden Age. Mainly since the Silver Age had its own shows AND all the Golden Age shows. If we're going by new shows only then maybe Golden Age wins, but if we go by everything that was available on the channel then the Silver Age wins. Sadly the Bronze age didn't keep the Silver Age shows. I assume the current heads of Nick wanted to start completely fresh. But they do have The Splat which includes both Golden and Silver Age shows. I just wish they aired more than 7 shows at once. The whole appeal of old Nick ages were that they were like Cartoon Network where they had a huge list of shows airing.

I'm not sure if this all has to do with people mainly streaming their favorite shows online. For example despite Cartoon Network only having a few shows it's assumed that people are just watching the most of the shows online. During the 1st half of the 2000s streaming online was basically non-existent for the most part. So companies decided to just fit as many shows onto a network as possible.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/15/17 at 6:09 pm


Sadly the Bronze age didn't keep the Silver Age shows. I assume the current heads of Nick wanted to start completely fresh.


Well, they did have reruns of Rugrats, Hey Arnold, Rocket Power, and the Wild Thornberrys during half of the Bronze Age. Although, most of them ended when 2004 came.

But they do have The Splat which includes both Golden and Silver Age shows. I just wish they aired more than 7 shows at once. The whole appeal of old Nick ages were that they were like Cartoon Network where they had a huge list of shows airing.

I feel the same whenever I used to watch Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon growing up. They used to have a great variety of shows, while keeping everybody comfortable. It sucks that they only have to air 3-5 shows, since online streaming exists and makes cable TV obsolete.


I'm not sure if this all has to do with people mainly streaming their favorite shows online. For example despite Cartoon Network only having a few shows it's assumed that people are just watching the most of the shows online. During the 1st half of the 2000s streaming online was basically non-existent for the most part. So companies decided to just fit as many shows onto a network as possible.


Well, that is true. I usually watch the newest episodes of We Bare Bears on Kisscartoon (a website that streams cartoons), since it's quite awkward to see it with all of the Teen Titans Go reruns.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/15/17 at 7:09 pm


I don't think it would last long by then. The new Nickelodeon logo was changed by 2009, and every show that was on the Silver/Bronze Ages (aside from Spongebob and FOP) ended around 2007/2008.
Only because Cyma F'd the network over.


It's Cyma's fault, as I've elaborated before, that the silver age didn't last longer.

Just compare Nick's schedule in January 2006 to how it was in November 2006; by late 06, there were way more endless reruns of Spongebob and much less variety in the shows.
Right. I honestly wonder how did she even reach that position in the first place? Had the person before her still been president of Nickelodeon, then the endless reruns of Spongebob would have never took place.

If you want to know, that was one of the first things I noticed when 2006 was the current year.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/15/17 at 7:13 pm


Right. I honestly wonder how did she even reach that position in the first place?

She was vice-president during the silver age.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/15/17 at 7:24 pm


Only because Cyma F'd the network over.


Well, what else can I say? If Cyma wasn't the president in 2006, then we would still have the Silver Age. I wouldn't really care though, since Cartoon Network was more decent to watch than Nickelodeon between 2007-2009 (at least imo).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/15/17 at 7:59 pm


She was vice-president during the silver age.



Well, what else can I say? If Cyma wasn't the president in 2006, then we would still have the Silver Age. I wouldn't really care though, since Cartoon Network was more decent to watch than Nickelodeon between 2007-2009 (at least imo).
Well with her not even becoming PoN, the era of 2006-09 could have been much better than CN's era of that time period.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/23/17 at 4:06 am


Here's even more from silver age Nick.

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Thank christ I saved this video to my flash drive before the business suits took it down from YouTube (presumably for copyright violation)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/23/17 at 3:29 pm

Don't let this thread die!!!! Silver Age Nick must live on until the end of time!!!!!!

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/23/17 at 4:41 pm


Don't let this thread die!!!! Silver Age Nick must live on until the end of time!!!!!!


If only Silver Age Nick didn't go the way of CN and Toon Disney. '06 the Silver Age was pretty much over and replaced by the new age. In '06 CN City era ended. In '06 Toon Disney heavily altered its lineup. From 2000-2005 I've noticed that these channels was being fairly consistent with the cartoons they aired.

Do you think maybe it was a change of taste with the general audience? I need to talk to different age groups. The kids who saw Nick during 1991-1997. Kids who saw Nick from 1998-2005. And the kids who saw Nick from 2005-present. Although I'm not sure if Nick is in a new era as of recently.



Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/23/17 at 5:00 pm


If only Silver Age Nick didn't go the way of CN and Toon Disney. '06 the Silver Age was pretty much over and replaced by the new age. In '06 CN City era ended. In '06 Toon Disney heavily altered its lineup. From 2000-2005 I've noticed that these channels was being fairly consistent with the cartoons they aired.

Do you think maybe it was a change of taste with the general audience? I need to talk to different age groups. The kids who saw Nick during 1991-1997. Kids who saw Nick from 1998-2005. And the kids who saw Nick from 2005-present. Although I'm not sure if Nick is in a new era as of recently.

Well, I watched Nickelodeon a lot from 2001-2009, then I turned 10 and Nick became crap (to me).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: 2001 on 03/23/17 at 5:11 pm

Knock knock.
Who's there?
Computer monitor.
Computer monitor who?
I'm gonna hit your head with a computer monitor. *smack*

Comedy gold!

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/23/17 at 6:01 pm


Well, I watched Nickelodeon a lot from 2001-2009, then I turned 10 and Nick became crap (to me).


What made you not interested into Nickelodeon in 2009?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/23/17 at 6:58 pm


Knock knock.
Who's there?
Computer monitor.
Computer monitor who?
I'm gonna hit your head with a computer monitor. *smack*

Comedy gold!

It's weird, in the Amanda Show I swear I remember them saying "goddamn", in a kids' show at that. :o

When Penelope was on the roof trying to get into Amanda's dressing room, her little brother said "Penelope, come down quick, someone's down here", that "someone" being Amanda. And Penelope's initial response was "Is it the god damn security guard?" ;D

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/23/17 at 7:02 pm


If only Silver Age Nick didn't go the way of CN and Toon Disney. '06 the Silver Age was pretty much over and replaced by the new age. In '06 CN City era ended. In '06 Toon Disney heavily altered its lineup. From 2000-2005 I've noticed that these channels was being fairly consistent with the cartoons they aired.

*puts on nerd glasses* The CN City era ended on June 1, 2007.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 03/23/17 at 8:00 pm


*puts on nerd glasses* The CN City era ended on June 1, 2007.


100% officially yes it did end in June 2007, but to me real CN City ended in April 2006. The Yes! era was just a cheaper branding that ran concurrent with the City era. The Dimensional era of CN that's been going on since last year is concurrent with the CHECK it era similar to how the Yes! era was with the City era. The Dimensional era is very downgraded compared to the CHECK it 1.0 or 2.0. The Yes! era was very downgraded compared to the City era.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/23/17 at 8:05 pm


100% officially yes it did end in June 2007, but to me real CN City ended in April 2006. The Yes! era was just a cheaper branding that ran concurrent with the City era. The Dimensional era of CN that's been going on since last year is concurrent with the CHECK it era similar to how the Yes! era was with the City era. The Dimensional era is very downgraded compared to the CHECK it 1.0 or 2.0. The Yes! era was very downgraded compared to the City era.

That may be true but the Yes! era was still decent and better than what Cartoon Network has going on today.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/23/17 at 8:07 pm


That may be true but the Yes! era was still decent and better than what Cartoon Network has going on today.


I would be happy to see something like this, but it wasn't like the Yes! era was truly the best era on Cartoon Network. I've seen Nickelodeon from the mid 2000s way better than what Cartoon Network had to offer (no offense). I could like being nostalgic for CN, but I haven't been a regular fan of the network until early 2007. So most of the time throughout the mid 2000s, I just watched Boomerang with Tom and Jerry, Scooby Doo, The Smurfs, The Snorks, and the original Pokemon seasons.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/23/17 at 8:13 pm


I would be happy to see something like this, but it wasn't like the Yes! era was truly the best era on Cartoon Network. I've seen Nickelodeon from the mid 2000s way better than what Cartoon Network had to offer (no offense). I could like being nostalgic for CN, but I haven't been a regular fan of the network until early 2007. So most of the time throughout the mid 2000s, I just watched Boomerang with Tom and Jerry, Scooby Doo, The Smurfs, The Snorks, and the original Pokemon seasons.

Of course the Yes! era wasn't the best era of Cartoon Network, it was barely a thing but it's short lived run is still better than the eras on Cartoon Network since 2010. ayaou don't have to apologize for your opinion. I also have mine and I have always like Cartoon Network more than Nickelodeon (but I still like both).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 03/24/17 at 12:11 pm


That may be true but the Yes! era was still decent and better than what Cartoon Network has going on today.


I'd take the Yes! era over CN from 2014-present but it wasn't better than CN's mini-renaissance from late 2010-2013. Late 2010-2013 was the peak of the CHECK it when it was mostly 1.0 & 2.0 style which had the best lineups in years when Adventure Time and Regular Show were the most popular shows along with action cartoons like Young Justice, Generator Rex, ThunerCats (2011), Sym-Bionic Titan, or Scooby-Doo Mystery Inc. Plus, I thought The Looney Tunes Show and MAD were pretty good underrated shows. Cartoon Planet was also great throughout 2012 and early 2013 when it was on Friday nights showed all classic CN shows for awhile.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/24/17 at 12:23 pm


I'd take the Yes! era over CN from 2014-present but it wasn't better than CN's mini-renaissance from late 2010-2013. Late 2010-2013 was the peak of the CHECK it when it was mostly 1.0 & 2.0 style which had the best lineups in years when Adventure Time and Regular Show were the most popular shows along with action cartoons like Young Justice, Generator Rex, ThunerCats (2011), Sym-Bionic Titan, or Scooby-Doo Mystery Inc. Plus, I thought The Looney Tunes Show and MAD were pretty good underrated shows. Cartoon Planet was also great throughout 2012 and early 2013 when it was on Friday nights showed all classic CN shows for awhile.


Personally, I could take both the Yes! and early Check It eras than today's Cartoon Network. It's actually sad that CN nowadays just air countless reruns of Teen Titans Go, where it doesn't make the channel entertaining anymore. It was also around the time when Boomerang still had classic shows and blocks commemorating them.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/24/17 at 6:19 pm

Fan art of Silver Age Nick
http://img11.deviantart.net/972e/i/2015/280/0/d/nickelodeon_sketchbook_design_by_flaresiram-d9cc5z9.jpg

Thought it looked nice. All from '98-'05

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/24/17 at 6:23 pm

Can anyone here tell me if I'm wrong in remembering that they said "goddamn" in the Amanda Show?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/24/17 at 6:26 pm


Fan art of Silver Age Nick
http://img11.deviantart.net/972e/i/2015/280/0/d/nickelodeon_sketchbook_design_by_flaresiram-d9cc5z9.jpg

Thought it looked nice. All from '98-'05

That's an awesome piece of art.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/24/17 at 7:02 pm


Can anyone here tell me if I'm wrong in remembering that they said "goddamn" in the Amanda Show?


I don't remember that ever happening.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/24/17 at 7:10 pm

As a kid, I remember being a bit shocked when I heard it, but also chuckling.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/25/17 at 1:30 pm

Not exactly sure if late 2004 is still the silver age of Nick or if it's already in the bronze age, but here's some commercials from that time anyway.

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Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/25/17 at 1:34 pm


Not exactly sure if late 2004 is still the silver age of Nick or if it's already in the bronze age, but here's some commercials from that time anyway.

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BTW, how old are you and what year were you born? Anyways, I remember some of those commercials. I remember that I loved Shark Tale as a kid but now because of all the negative review videos and memes don't really liked it anymore. I also re watched it about 3 or 4 years ago and it wasn't as good as I remembered.  :-\\

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/25/17 at 1:35 pm


BTW, how old are you and what year were you born? Anyways, I remember some of those commercials. I remember that I loved Shark Tale as a kid but now because of all the negative review videos and memes don't really liked it anymore. I also re watched it about 3 or 4 years ago and it wasn't as good as I remembered.  :-\\

1995, 21/22.

I watched Nick from 2000 to 2007, mostly. But my favorite years for them were 2000-2004/5, when they seemed to have a perfect "equilibrium" of 90s stuff and 00s stuff.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/25/17 at 1:38 pm

Zelek actually doesn't age.  8) Early Age, Golden Age, Silver Age, and Bronze age are all a part of his childhood. He was 10 in the 80s, 90s, and 00s. Then by the 2010s he magically changed his age to 22.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/25/17 at 1:39 pm


1995, 21/22.

I watched Nick from 2000 to 2007, mostly. But my favorite years for them were 2000-2004/5, when they seemed to have a perfect "equilibrium" of 90s stuff and 00s stuff.

I would agree. It was the perfect balance and I am glad that I got to see it.  8)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/25/17 at 1:39 pm


BTW, how old are you and what year were you born? Anyways, I remember some of those commercials. I remember that I loved Shark Tale as a kid but now because of all the negative review videos and memes don't really liked it anymore. I also re watched it about 3 or 4 years ago and it wasn't as good as I remembered.  :-\\


Honestly, I think Shark Tale is one of the weakest movies during the Dreamworks Animation Golden Age (2001-2006).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/25/17 at 1:41 pm


Zelek actually doesn't age.  8) Early Age, Golden Age, Silver Age, and Bronze age are all a part of his childhood. He was 10 in the 80s, 90s, and 00s. Then by the 2010s he magically changed his age to 22.

He's actually immortal and has been reincarnated several times.  :D 8)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/25/17 at 1:42 pm


He's actually immortal and has been reincarnated several times.  :D 8)

Well, I am a beast mage, so yeah.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/25/17 at 1:43 pm


Honestly, I think Shark Tale is one of the weakest movies during the Dreamworks Animation Golden Age (2001-2006).

Yes, that would be true.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/25/17 at 1:44 pm


Honestly, I think Shark Tale is one of the weakest movies during the Dreamworks Animation Golden Age (2001-2006).


Yes, that would be true.

I'd say the Dreamworks golden age was more like 1998-2004. Beginning with Antz and ending with Shrek 2. Shark Tale was what killed the golden age.

The Aardman movies were good but they really don't count. Dreamworks didn't have creative input on those, they just distributed them.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/25/17 at 1:45 pm


Well, I am a beast mage, so yeah.

Teach me your ways MASTER  :\'(


I'd say the Dreamworks golden age was more like 1998-2004. Beginning with Antz and ending with Shrek 2. Shark Tale was what killed the golden age.

I agree with you MORE. Even though, Over the Hedge (2006) and Flushed Away (2006) were good movies.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 03/25/17 at 1:51 pm


I'd say the Dreamworks golden age was more like 1998-2004. Beginning with Antz and ending with Shrek 2. Shark Tale was what killed the golden age.


THIS.

What's ironic was that I recently saw this video from a guy named Saberspark (who makes great content btw, he's made analysis for other networks/companies on the issues plaguing them) and I pretty much agree with most of what he's said:

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Pretty anecdotal, but its funny how for most of the first half of my childhood I actually was an avid fan of many of Dreamworks films. Heck I owned Prince of Egypt, El Dorado, Joseph Prince of Dreams, and Spirit all on VHS as a kid and I even saw Shrek 1 at friends houses and Shrek 2 a couple of times when it first came to theaters. Dreamworks in its early years seemed to be a formidable adversary to Disney, heck they were technically having more financial success than Disney when the Renaissance era abruptly ended with the bomb that was Atlantis in 2001. It seemed like around with Sharktale in Late 2004, a movie that was mediocore (at best), came onto the scene Dreamwork's variety seemed to had started to go downhill. Most of their new concepts weren't sticking and the couple that did, like How To Train Your Dragon or Kung Fu Panda, weren't getting as much critical acclaim as many of Pixar's films at the time like Up and Wall E, plus Disney's comeback films since the Late 2000's like Princess & The Frog and Frozen.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/25/17 at 1:53 pm


I'd say the Dreamworks golden age was more like 1998-2004. Beginning with Antz and ending with Shrek 2. Shark Tale was what killed the golden age.


Although Antz and The Prince of Egypt weren't that well known for Dreamworks fans (such as myself). Despite that it gave Dreamworks competition against Disney at the time, it didn't gave them a strong reputation until Shrek was released in 2001. At least maybe have it around 2000-2005, since that's when most of their well known movies were released.

Being that Shrek 1 and 2 were the strongest, while Shark Tale was the weakest out of them. Movies like Road to El Dorado, Chicken Run (despite being entirely made by Aardman), Spirit, Sinbad, and Madagascar were rather average.


I agree with you MORE. Even though, Over the Hedge (2006) and Flushed Away (2006) were good movies.


I take that back with 2006 as a Golden Age year for Dreamworks. The year was rather mediocre, since both movies weren't really that great.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/25/17 at 1:55 pm


THIS.

What's ironic was that I recently saw this video from a guy named Saberspark (who makes great content btw, he's made analysis for other networks/companies on the issues plaguing them) and I pretty much agree with most of what he's said:

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Pretty anecdotal, but its funny how for most of the first half of my childhood I actually was an avid fan of many of Dreamworks films. Heck I owned Prince of Egypt, El Dorado, Joseph Prince of Dreams, and Spirit all on VHS as a kid and I even saw Shrek 1 at friends houses and Shrek 2 a couple of times when it first came to theaters. Dreamworks in its early years seemed to be a formidable adversary to Disney, heck they were technically having more financial success than Disney when the Renaissance era abruptly ended with the bomb that was Atlantis in 2001. It seemed like around with Sharktale in Late 2004, a movie that was mediocore (at best), came onto the scene Dreamwork's variety seemed to had started to go downhill. Most of their new concepts weren't sticking and the couple that did, like How I Met Your Dragon or Kung Fu Panda, weren't getting as much critical acclaim as many of Pixar's films at the time like Up and Wall E, plus Disney's comeback films since the Late 2000's like Princess & The Frog and Frozen.

Yeah, I saw that video by Saberspark as well (I'm subscribed to him) and I also agree with pretty much everything he had to saw. The Dreamworks animated movies from 1998-2004 (not including Shark Tale) were GOLDEN and will always be classics.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/25/17 at 1:56 pm

We're getting a bit off topic here from silver age Nick, though I don't mind.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/25/17 at 1:57 pm


Although Antz and The Prince of Egypt weren't that well known for Dreamworks fans (such as myself). Despite that it gave Dreamworks competition against Disney at the time, it didn't gave them a strong reputation until Shrek was released in 2001. At least maybe have it around 2000-2005, since that's when most of their well known movies were released.

Being that Shrek 1 and 2 were the strongest, while Shark Tale was the weakest out of them. Movies like Road to El Dorado, Chicken Run (despite being entirely made by Aardman), Spirit, Sinbad, and Madagascar were rather average.

I take that back with 2006 as a Golden Age year for Dreamworks. The year was rather mediocre, since both movies weren't really that great.

2006 wasn't apart of the golden age of Dreamworks but OTH and FA were still decent movies.


We're getting a bit off topic here from silver age Nick, though I don't mind.

What's your favorite silver age Nick show or cartoon?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 03/25/17 at 1:58 pm


I'd say the Dreamworks golden age was more like 1998-2004. Beginning with Antz and ending with Shrek 2. Shark Tale was what killed the golden age.

The Aardman movies were good but they really don't count. Dreamworks didn't have creative input on those, they just distributed them.


IDK, the Shrek movie franchise and Shark Tale were the only Dreamworks movies I liked as a kid. Which would mean 2 of the 3 best franchises in Dreamworks history would have been outside the golden age (How to Train Your Dragon and Kung Fu Panda) which were arguably better than the Shrek series. Pixar was better by several miles and it wasn't close. When it comes to CGI movies, the Disney Revival era and Illumination Entertainment have outdone Dreamworks' entire history. Even Sony Pictures Animation too.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 03/25/17 at 2:03 pm


2006 wasn't apart of the golden age of Dreamworks but OTH and FA were still decent movies.


Both of those movies were terrible IMO. Although, Over the Hedge was a good Dreamworks movie if you loved flavorable snacks & chips.

I forgot about Megamind being the best Dreamworks movie that was underrated.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/25/17 at 2:06 pm


What's your favorite silver age Nick show or cartoon?

Spongebob seasons 1-3. The comedy is pure gold in those episodes. The writers must've put something in their water between 1999-2004 because they were really "on the ball" during those years.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/25/17 at 2:06 pm


Both of those movies were terrible IMO. Although, Over the Hedge was a good Dreamworks movie if you loved flavorable snacks & chips.

I forgot about Megamind being the best Dreamworks movie that was underrated.

You don't like OTH & FA but you like Megamind?....... 8-P >:( >:( >:( :-\\ :-\\ :-\\ :o :o :o

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 03/25/17 at 2:07 pm


You don't like OTH & FA but you like Megamind?....... 8-P >:( >:( >:( :-\\ :-\\ :-\\ :o :o :o


Megamind's plot was much better and more mature. There were people in high school who enjoyed that movie.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/25/17 at 2:09 pm


Spongebob seasons 1-3. The comedy is pure gold in those episodes. The writers must've put something in their water between 1999-2004 because they were really "on the ball" during those years.

Cool. Those episodes of Spongebob were amazing. My favorite Silver Age Nickelodeon (2000-2005) cartoon is The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/25/17 at 2:11 pm


Megamind's plot was much better and more mature. There were people in high school who enjoyed that movie.

MEGAMIND =  8-P 8-P 8-P. Just kidding, Megamind was decent (I was 11 when it came out). However, IMO Over the Hedge and Flushed Away are still decent movies.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/25/17 at 2:16 pm


Both of those movies were terrible IMO. Although, Over the Hedge was a good Dreamworks movie if you loved flavorable snacks & chips.

I forgot about Megamind being the best Dreamworks movie that was underrated.


Over The Hedge was decent, but it wasn't as great as the first two Shrek movies (which are the best movies that Dreamworks made IMO).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 03/25/17 at 2:30 pm


MEGAMIND =  8-P 8-P 8-P. Just kidding, Megamind was decent (I was 11 when it came out). However, IMO Over the Hedge and Flushed Away are still decent movies.



Over The Hedge was decent, but it wasn't as great as the first two Shrek movies (which are the best movies that Dreamworks made IMO).


Megamind was like a Superman parody spoof.

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The movie did well in theaters, but the biggest problem was the marketing. (like toys for kids) Hardly any of the Megamind characters were marketable because many of the characters felt mature. Why was Despicable Me turned into this overrated Minions franchise? Because the Minions toys sell very well and they grab kids' immediate attention.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/25/17 at 2:34 pm


Megamind was like a Superman parody spoof.

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The movie did well in theaters, but the biggest problem was the marketing. (like toys for kids) Hardly any of the Megamind characters were marketable because many of the characters felt mature. Why was Despicable Me turned into this overrated Minions franchise? Because the Minions toys sell very well and they grab kids' immediate attention.

Unfortunately, there's a Despicable Me 3 coming in June.  :-\\

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/25/17 at 2:45 pm


Unfortunately, there's a Despicable Me 3 coming in June.  :-\\


But yet, it's pretty much made for the kids who keep watching the franchise since 2010.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/25/17 at 2:47 pm


But yet, it's pretty much made for the kids who keep watching the franchise since 2010.

They haven't grown up yet? I was still a kid in 2010 (11) but I'm not anymore.  >:(

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/25/17 at 2:57 pm


They haven't grown up yet? I was still a kid in 2010 (11) but I'm not anymore.  >:(


Well, there could be a 10 year old now who grew up with Minions ever since 2010.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/25/17 at 2:59 pm


Well, there could be a 10 year old now who grew up with Minions ever since 2010.

Ugh you're right.  8-P

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/26/17 at 5:12 am

Right now I'm working on a compilation of silver age Nick videos to put on YouTube. Stay tuned.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/26/17 at 8:30 am


Right now I'm working on a compilation of silver age Nick videos to put on YouTube. Stay tuned.


Could I have a link of your YouTube channel so I could watch it?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/26/17 at 6:10 pm

Not done yet fam.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 03/26/17 at 7:54 pm


Not done yet fam.


Sounding like a stereotypical Gen Zer :-X

;D

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/26/17 at 7:56 pm

As I was born in 1995, Gallup told me I was a Millennial, but Mccrindle research told me I was Gen Z.

So I'm  going to identify as generation-fluid. That way, I can use "fam" both ironically and unironically to my disposal.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/26/17 at 7:57 pm

Zelda, do you have any Nick recordings of your own in your collection that could be of use?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/26/17 at 7:58 pm


Zelda, do you have any Nick recordings of your own in your collection that could be of use?


Well, if you want anything from silver-age Nick, I have recordings of late 2004 airings of Spongebob.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/26/17 at 8:00 pm

That's terrific. Can you upload them to YouTube so I can snatch em up?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/26/17 at 8:01 pm

And I don't have recordings of anything.  :\'(  :\'(  :-X

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/26/17 at 8:03 pm

When I'm finished putting together this one big video, I've thought about giving the video to Marquis so he can put it on his mqgtwo96 channel. His YouTube channel has much more views and popularity than my lowly 2-subscriber channel; thus, more people would be exposed to the full glory of Silver Age Nick if it were upload on his channel rather than mine.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/26/17 at 8:06 pm


When I'm finished putting together this one big video, I've thought about giving the video to Marquis so he can put it on his mqgtwo96 channel. His YouTube channel has much more views and popularity than my lowly channel; thus, more people would be exposed to the glory of Silver Age Nick if it were upload on his channel rather than mine.

I just checked out his channel. He's legit.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/26/17 at 8:06 pm

Most definitely.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/26/17 at 8:19 pm


That's terrific. Can you upload them to YouTube so I can snatch em up?


Well, I'm not sure if you want the entire recordings. If it's the commercials, then I'll might do that with no problem. If it's the episodes, then I'll rather get them from other websites.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/26/17 at 8:20 pm

Just want the commercials, promos, and bumpers.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/26/17 at 8:33 pm


Just want the commercials, promos, and bumpers.


Oh, that's great. That might be swell since most of them are from U-Pick Live.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/26/17 at 8:58 pm


When I'm finished putting together this one big video, I've thought about giving the video to Marquis so he can put it on his mqgtwo96 channel. His YouTube channel has much more views and popularity than my lowly 2-subscriber channel; thus, more people would be exposed to the full glory of Silver Age Nick if it were upload on his channel rather than mine.


Well, he does have a cult following with nostalgic Cartoon Network fans. So I guess it'll might work with your idea.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/27/17 at 4:49 am

Alright, I've flushed out all the 2005 Nick videos YouTube had. Now I'm working my way down to the 2004 ones.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 03/27/17 at 6:41 pm


As I was born in 1995, Gallup told me I was a Millennial, but Mccrindle research told me I was Gen Z.

So I'm  going to identify as generation-fluid. That way, I can use "fam" both ironically and unironically to my disposal.


LOL. Born in 1996 and can relate. Gallup considers me the tail end of Millennials, while The Center For Generational Kinectics considers me the first of Gen Z. FWIW though I saw this comment on YouTube and I think its pretty accurate:

"If you don't remember 9/11, you're probably Gen Z.
If you weren't legally old enough to vote for #TrumpPence2016, you're definitely Gen Z.




Zelda, do you have any Nick recordings of your own in your collection that could be of use?


Nah unfortunately I wish though. I really do like to pursue collecting though, just don't know where to start...


Alright, I've flushed out all the 2005 Nick videos YouTube had. Now I'm working my way down to the 2004 ones.


Keep us posted ;)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 03/27/17 at 6:48 pm

More Nickelodeon nostalgia! I saw this guy's video originally back in Late 2014/Early 2015 and it (along with a few others) made me massively nostalgic and a devout professional of 'Nostalgic Cultural Phenomenon Studies' ever since ;D

His (or her) account unfortunately was shut down, I assume based on copyright claims. So all the videos were taken down with it :\'(

However, you can go to this link on the Internet Archive right here: https://archive.org/details/ThatGuyWithTheVHS and you could check out all of the nostalgic recordings he was able to still retain on the web :D

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/27/17 at 6:53 pm

So, Ive decided that my silver age Nick compilation will include late 2004 and 2005 Nick clips in addition to the 2000-mid 2004 ones. Even though some say that was already out of the silver age, I'm going to include them because they were still pre-Cyma.

Will silver age Nick fans come to my house and crucify me for including late 2004-2005 clips in the video? :-X

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Brian06 on 03/27/17 at 7:03 pm


LOL. Born in 1996 and can relate. Gallup considers me the tail end of Millennials, while The Center For Generational Kinectics considers me the first of Gen Z. FWIW though I saw this comment on YouTube and I think its pretty accurate:

"If you don't remember 9/11, you're probably Gen Z.
If you weren't legally old enough to vote for #TrumpPence2016, you're definitely Gen Z.



Nah unfortunately I wish though. I really do like to pursue collecting though, just don't know where to start...

Keep us posted ;)
I think '95-'96 born is definitely still millennial, though later millennial and different from older millennials like me. They are too young for the early millennial things, but old enough to have been a young adult in a decent portion of the 2010s at least which is probably the key to them still being part of the generation. A generation is an idea and the birth years are just estimates for who falls into that overall idea of when so and so "came of age". '99 is definitely getting quite cuspy though, 2002 would definitely be pretty Z.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/27/17 at 7:08 pm


I think '95-'96 born is definitely still millennial, though later millennial and different from older millennials like me. They are too young for the early millennial things, but old enough to have been a young adult in a decent portion of the 2010s at least which is probably the key to them still being part of the generation. A generation is an idea and the birth years are just estimates for who falls into that overall idea of when so and so "came of age". '99 is definitely getting quite cuspy though, 2002 would definitely be pretty Z.


Yeah, not to further a generation topic, but to me a mid-late millennial is someone who had a majority of their time growing up in a world where millennial culture was dominating which during the late 1990s to 2010s. And if they were an adult for most of the 2010s they're millennial. Late millennials, but millennial. A person from 96 was 18+ by 2014-2019 which is most of the 2010s. Basing it on when you matured is much more better than just saying things like "You have to remember 9/11" or whatever.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 03/27/17 at 7:34 pm

1999-2004 Era Aesthetics

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This should be preserved in the Library of Congress for future generations. Also to warn future animators, directors, producers, etc. about the dangers of the 'Spongebob effect' and how to end a show with grace.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/27/17 at 7:38 pm


1999-2004 Era Aesthetics

FKZdL_fOvWY


https://i.imgflip.com/1m7ppu.jpg

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/27/17 at 7:40 pm

Here's another thing that's got that late 90s/early 00s feel to it.

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Even though As Told by Ginger was very much a "love it or hate it" kind of show(perhaps because of how pig-ugly the characters were, or maybe because guys don't like "girly" shows), the theme song (all versions) makes me feel all wistful and somber... in an early 2000s way.

It's got a vibe of slight dourness and angst, but also has more hopeful parts that give off the vibe of "We'll make it in the end".

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 03/27/17 at 7:42 pm


So, Ive decided that my silver age Nick compilation will include late 2004 and 2005 Nick clips in addition to the 2000-mid 2004 ones. Even though some say that was already out of the silver age, I'm going to include them because they were still pre-Cyma.

Will silver age Nick fans come to my house and crucify me for including late 2004-2005 clips in the video? :-X


I'll admit I usually lean more with the traditionalist method (along with Eric & Marquis) that the silver age ended in Mid 2004. But I'm also okay with the theory of the era ending around Mid 2005 (the decision with Nick closing down Nickelodeon studios being major contributor).

At the end of the day most agree that the Bronze age was set in motion by the 2005-06' school year, regardless of Zarghami. Although her decisions, which took effect by Late 2006 (gotta add to the Why Late 2006 was the downfall of society lists), most certainly sped up the declining process.



https://i.imgflip.com/1m7ppu.jpg


SH!T I forgot your an avid Vaporwave fan, so when you mean aesthetics, you mean

A E S T H E T I C S

Ah_hcT9oPDw

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/27/17 at 7:52 pm


LOL. Born in 1996 and can relate. Gallup considers me the tail end of Millennials, while The Center For Generational Kinectics considers me the first of Gen Z. FWIW though I saw this comment on YouTube and I think its pretty accurate:

"If you don't remember 9/11, you're probably Gen Z.
If you weren't legally old enough to vote for #TrumpPence2016, you're definitely Gen Z.


Nah unfortunately I wish though. I really do like to pursue collecting though, just don't know where to start...

Keep us posted ;)

I disagree with the bolded statement. I am 17 (turning 18 in 3 months - mid July), so if I was just 1 year older (more accurately about 8-9 months older) I would be able to vote in the 2016 US Presidential Election. That's not really fair. You were born in 1996 and you are 3 years older than me. However, the difference in childhoods between those born 1999 vs 2002 is greater than those born 1996 vs 1999, IMO.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/27/17 at 7:55 pm


Here's another thing that's got that late 90s/early 00s feel to it.

neebon1PYJY3YVnFZoxC4UkwFxrCLIbgg

Even though As Told by Ginger was very much a "love it or hate it" kind of show(perhaps because of how pig-ugly the characters were, or maybe because guys don't like "girly" shows), the theme song (all versions) makes me feel all wistful and somber... in an early 2000s way.

It's got a vibe of slight dourness and angst, but also has more hopeful parts that give off the vibe of "We'll make it in the end".

I remember As Told By Ginger but I never liked it or watched it much. I watched The Wild Thornberrys much more, lol.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 03/27/17 at 8:04 pm


Here's another thing that's got that late 90s/early 00s feel to it.

neebon1PYJY3YVnFZoxC4UkwFxrCLIbgg

Even though As Told by Ginger was very much a "love it or hate it" kind of show(perhaps because of how pig-ugly the characters were, or maybe because guys don't like "girly" shows), the theme song (all versions) makes me feel all wistful and somber... in an early 2000s way.

It's got a vibe of slight dourness and angst, but also has more hopeful parts that give off the vibe of "We'll make it in the end".


Honestly the theme song is pretty good! However as a kid I always found the show a tad bit boring I guess. I'd have to give it another watch though so I could get a balanced judgement.



I disagree with the bolded statement. I am 17 (turning 18 in 3 months - mid July), so if I was just 1 year older (more accurately about 8-9 months older) I would be able to vote in the 2016 US Presidential Election. That's not really fair. You were born in 1996 and you are 3 years older than me. However, the difference in childhoods between those born 1999 vs 2002 is greater than those born 1996 vs 1999, IMO.


Good point bro! FWIW I'm pretty consistent in believing that those born from 95'-00'/01' are just a cusp of Y & Z since the earliest Millennial/Z cutoff points are usually around 1994/5 and the latter ones are usually 2000/2001. Mathematically I'd see you leaning more towards Z in that respect along with the fact that you wouldn't be able to vote until 2020. But at the same time I'd say from a cultural standpoint that If you spent most of your youth (ages 9-24, with the core years being 13-20) in 2016 & before, aka before Trump becoming president, I'd say you're safely more of a Millennial/Y. Gen Z has been described as much more conservative than Gen Y, and since Gen Z's are coming of age in a post 2016 'Trump can never win' environment. Thus they're gonna be less likely of shaking the system than their Millennial counterparts were at a similar age. So I'd say by that metric you're Y, but one of the last though...



I remember As Told By Ginger but I never liked it or watched it much. I watched The Wild Thornberrys much more, lol.


I agree, Wild Thornberrys was just a great show! One of the few Klasky Csupo shows that actually aged pretty well. Also Nigel Thornberry is the Greatest Cartoon Dad Of All Time

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yes I said it 8)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/27/17 at 8:09 pm


Honestly the theme song is pretty good! However as a kid I always found the show a tad bit boring I guess. I'd have to give it another watch though so I could get a balanced judgement.


Good point bro! FWIW I'm pretty consistent in believing that those born from 95'-00'/01' are just a cusp of Y & Z since the earliest Millennial/Z cutoff points are usually around 1994/5 and the latter ones are usually 2000/2001. Mathematically I'd see you leaning more towards Z in that respect along with the fact that you wouldn't be able to vote until 2020. But at the same time I'd say from a cultural standpoint that If you spent most of your youth (ages 9-24, with the core years being 13-20) in 2016 & before, aka before Trump becoming president, I'd say you're safely more of a Millennial/Y. Gen Z has been described as much more conservative than Gen Y, and since Gen Z's are coming of age in a post 2016 'Trump can never win' environment. Thus they're gonna be less likely of shaking the system than their Millennial counterparts were at a similar age. So I'd say by that metric you're Y, but one of the last though...



I agree, Wild Thornberrys was just a great show! One of the few Klasky Csupo shows that actually aged pretty well. Also Nigel Thornberry is the Greatest Cartoon Dad Of All Time

A8-GKFM56v0

yes I said it 8)

Yes, Nigel is definetly one of the best cartoon dads of all time. He's hilarious  ;D. Also, interesting thoughts on the whole generation thing.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/27/17 at 8:09 pm


SH!T I forgot your an avid Vaporwave fan, so when you mean aesthetics, you mean

A E S T H E T I C S

Ah_hcT9oPDw


Aw hell yeah!  8)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/27/17 at 8:33 pm


I'll admit I usually lean more with the traditionalist method (along with Eric & Marquis) that the silver age ended in Mid 2004. But I'm also okay with the theory of the era ending around Mid 2005 (the decision with Nick closing down Nickelodeon studios being major contributor).

At the end of the day most agree that the Bronze age was set in motion by the 2005-06' school year, regardless of Zarghami. Although her decisions, which took effect by Late 2006 (gotta add to the Why Late 2006 was the downfall of society lists), most certainly sped up the declining process.

Question: when you say 05-06 school year, do you mean September 2005-June 2006, or June 2005-June 2006? Are you including or excluding summer 05?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/27/17 at 8:34 pm


1999-2004 Era Aesthetics

FKZdL_fOvWY


This should be preserved in the Library of Congress for future generations. Also to warn future animators, directors, producers, etc. about the dangers of the 'Spongebob effect' and how to end a show with grace.


- video titled as old spongebob tribute
- literally shows a few quotes from modern spongebob

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/27/17 at 8:52 pm


Question: when you say 05-06 school year, do you mean September 2005-June 2006, or June 2005-June 2006? Are you including or excluding summer 05?

September 2005-June 2006 was when I was in the 1st Grade. Ahhh, good times.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 03/28/17 at 12:46 pm


Question: when you say 05-06 school year, do you mean September 2005-June 2006, or June 2005-June 2006? Are you including or excluding summer 05?


I mean the September 2005-June 06' Era is where I would officially entered the Bronze Age. However, you could make the argument that it started to massively transition into the Bronze age during the Spring & Summer of 2005. IMHO, the last time in Nick's history that it still retained a fair amount of its classic 90's/early 00's aesthetic was probably the Winter of 2004/2005. Around Spring 2005 it seemed like Nick started to enter a new era. The 2003-04' school year was the last pure Silver Age Nick School Year

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/28/17 at 9:38 pm

I asked Channel Frederator if they could do a video on Silver Age Nick, and to my surprise, they said "Yes"! :)

Soon more normies will be exposed to the glory of 2000-2004/5 Nick, rather than thinking 90s Nick was the only good Nick.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/28/17 at 9:44 pm


I asked Channel Frederator if they could do a video on Silver Age Nick, and to my surprise, they said "Yes"! :)

Soon more normies will be exposed to the glory of 2000-2004/5 Nick, rather than thinking 90s Nick was the only good Nick.

I like what I'm hearing.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 03/28/17 at 10:55 pm


I asked Channel Frederator if they could do a video on Silver Age Nick, and to my surprise, they said "Yes"! :)

Soon more normies will be exposed to the glory of 2000-2004/5 Nick, rather than thinking 90s Nick was the only good Nick.


How did you get them to say yes?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/28/17 at 10:56 pm


How did you get them to say yes?


I asked them on Facebook

They take requests for videos.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 03/29/17 at 12:16 pm


I asked them on Facebook

They take requests for videos.


Sounds good!

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/30/17 at 9:10 pm

It's sad that the only reason that I will even flick the TV onto Nickelodeon is for the current Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/31/17 at 4:59 am

Anyone remember these songs that appeared in Silver Age Nick movies?

From Rugrats in Paris:
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From Hey Arnold: The Movie:
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From The Wild Thornberrys Movie:
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From Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius:
-hWZqllm3mQ

From The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie:
6E5m_XtCX3caiRCsYQ1iUMUgUp31YfPb4

From Rugrats Go Wild:
MbXWrmQW-OE

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/31/17 at 6:37 am


It's sad that the only reason that I will even flick the TV onto Nickelodeon is for the current Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series.


Well, I think everybody just watches it for the current TMNT series. You're not alone, dude.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/31/17 at 3:06 pm


I mean the September 2005-June 06' Era is where I would officially entered the Bronze Age. However, you could make the argument that it started to massively transition into the Bronze age during the Spring & Summer of 2005. IMHO, the last time in Nick's history that it still retained a fair amount of its classic 90's/early 00's aesthetic was probably the Winter of 2004/2005. Around Spring 2005 it seemed like Nick started to enter a new era. The 2003-04' school year was the last pure Silver Age Nick School Year

One possible factor in Nick's drop in network quality is that the end of 2005 is when the original Viacom became CBS Corporation and a new Viacom was created as a spin-off. This perhaps changed their business structure, and caused them to follow a new model of "Show only SpongeBob, because it's our most popular show. Show almost nothing else, because kids don't watch those boring other shows as much."

I've also heard people claim MTV went to sh*t circa 2005-2007 as well (although older people would claim it had already gone to sh*t long before that), and they're also owned by Viacom. Coincidence? I think not.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/31/17 at 5:42 pm

Nobody's commenting on my collection of Silver age Nick soundtracks... man, you guys are lame-os! ;)

(Just kidding)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/31/17 at 6:22 pm


One possible factor in Nick's drop in network quality is that the end of 2005 is when the original Viacom became CBS Corporation and a new Viacom was created as a spin-off. This perhaps changed their business structure, and caused them to follow a new model of "Show only SpongeBob, because it's our most popular show. Show almost nothing else, because kids don't watch those boring other shows as much."

I've also heard people claim MTV went to sh*t circa 2005-2007 as well (although older people would claim it had already gone to sh*t long before that), and they're also owned by Viacom. Coincidence? I think not.


MTV was already sh*tty by 2005. It didn't really matter if Viacom split into two from CBS. I think Nickelodeon was just going through changes by the time Cyma Zarghini was president, which makes sense because it was kinda different in late 2006.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 03/31/17 at 10:38 pm


Anyone remember these songs that appeared in Silver Age Nick movies?

From Rugrats in Paris:
Qkuu0Lwb5EM

From Hey Arnold: The Movie:
_VNOJBKQzZg

From The Wild Thornberrys Movie:
we3xfK4NwGQCOQPSoRFdwg

From Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius:
-hWZqllm3mQ

From The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie:
6E5m_XtCX3caiRCsYQ1iUMUgUp31YfPb4

From Rugrats Go Wild:
MbXWrmQW-OE


Yeah I remember all of these! Its crazy looking back how dedicated Nickelodeon was to making film adaptions of their favorite tv shows

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/31/17 at 11:29 pm


Nah. The show was okay with just the family going to exotic places, so they can find cool animals. I actually liked it better with his daughters being around.

It was a fun show, but I would've arguably liked it better if they didn't make Eliza so hideous that she could turn Medusa to stone. :P

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 03/31/17 at 11:48 pm


Qkuu0Lwb5EM


Who Let the Dogs Out was one of the first mainstream songs I could remember my whole life. My dad would play it all the time on his playlist throughout late 2000 and 2001. You couldn't stop hearing it everywhere you went at the time it was brand new. It had an early 2000's vibe for sure.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/01/17 at 12:39 am


Who Let the Dogs Out was one of the first mainstream songs I could remember my whole life. My dad would play it all the time on his playlist throughout late 2000 and 2001. You couldn't stop hearing it everywhere you went at the time it was brand new. It had an early 2000's vibe for sure.

This statement is very true.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/01/17 at 12:48 am


:\'(This statement is very true.

What's so sad?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/01/17 at 12:51 am


What's so sad?

Woah, I don't know, it must have accidentally came up while I was typing. I'll edit it out.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/02/17 at 10:25 pm

Anyone remember when they did this TV movie? Hypppeeee. :D

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The movie actually exceeded my expectations as a kid; I never expected Fairly Oddparents, of all things, to be touching and poignant.

I think seasons 1-2, maybe 3, were the "good ones" for this show. They had a more retro feel to the humor and tone, more clever and relaxed, and not as ADHD as the later ones. For instance, Cosmo was way cooler when he sounded like Phil Hartman and was more of middling intelligence, rather than the idiot he became later on. Also I think the animation looked better when it was more jagged(?) and stylized.

I think the show took a turn for the worse around late season 3/early season 4, with Channel Chasers being the last great episode they got through the door in the early stages of the decline.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 04/02/17 at 11:06 pm


Anyone remember when they did this TV movie? Hypppeeee. :D

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The movie actually exceeded my expectations as a kid; I never expected Fairly Oddparents, of all things, to be touching and poignant.

I think seasons 1-2, maybe 3, were the "good ones" for this show. They had a more retro feel to the humor and tone, more clever and relaxed, and not as ADHD as the later ones. For instance, Cosmo was way cooler when he sounded like Phil Hartman and was more of middling intelligence, rather than the idiot he became later on. Also I think the animation looked better when it was more jagged(?) and stylized.

I think the show took a turn for the worse around late season 3/early season 4, with Channel Chasers being the last great episode they got through the door in the early stages of the decline.


Yup I vividly remember this. Come to think of it, I liked all of the Fairly Odd Parents specials when I was a kid. This, Information Stupor Highway, Channel Chasers, heck even the original Jimmy-Timmy Power Hour! I agree the first 3 or 4 seasons of the show was great Seasons 4-5 were decent though. I feel like the show should've ended with season 5 as it was supposed to

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/02/17 at 11:11 pm

Do you agree that Abra Catastrophe was, rather unexpectedly, touching and sad at times (particularly the climax with Timmy revealing the truth to his parents)? :\'(

Up to that point, I never thought of Fairly Oddparents as an emotional show. As a kid it caught me off-guard, but in an awesome way.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 04/03/17 at 12:29 am


Do you agree that Abra Catastrophe was, rather unexpectedly, touching and sad at times (particularly the climax with Timmy revealing the truth to his parents)? :\'(

Up to that point, I never thought of Fairly Oddparents as an emotional show. As a kid it caught me off-guard, but in an awesome way.


Yeah it was pretty sad looking back. It was moments like that which helped me relate to the show on a deeper level in comparison to most Nicktoons

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/03/17 at 3:53 am


Yeah it was pretty sad looking back. It was moments like that which helped me relate to the show on a deeper level in comparison to most Nicktoons

Off topic, but we're doing a CN City vs Powerhouse era thread now. I've mostly seen you praise the Powerhouse era while barely mentioning the City era; if you have anything nice to say about the City era, say it here. :)

http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=55059.75

We also have a fictional character crushes thread. I'm interested to hear yours, that is unless you're a normie who never liked a single drawn girl. :( ;D

http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=54963.0

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/03/17 at 6:29 am


Yup I vividly remember this. Come to think of it, I liked all of the Fairly Odd Parents specials when I was a kid. This, Information Stupor Highway, Channel Chasers, heck even the original Jimmy-Timmy Power Hour! I agree the first 3 or 4 seasons of the show was great Seasons 4-5 were decent though. I feel like the show should've ended with season 5 as it was supposed to


A lot of specials before Poof came were really cool. Even 10-14 years after they premiered, they still have this aesthetic feeling. My favorite special was the Jimmy-Timmy Power Hour.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/04/17 at 9:20 pm

Yoooo Zelek3, this is for you my friend.....
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Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/04/17 at 9:25 pm

Thanks fam, I like. :)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/04/17 at 9:27 pm


Thanks fam, I like. :)

I'm glad you liked it.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 04/04/17 at 9:46 pm


Yoooo Zelek3, this is for you my friend.....
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Yep I always wanted an issue from Nickelodeon Magazine, but I unfortunately never got one :\'( However, from what I've heard from friends who did have a subscription, it was kind of corny. I mean you had some cool interviews and previews of upcoming (at the time_ movies and TV shows, but it wasn't anything grand. Regardless though I'm sure that most of us remember this iconic commercial for it!

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Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/04/17 at 9:55 pm


Yep I always wanted an issue from Nickelodeon Magazine, but I unfortunately never got one :\'( However, from what I've heard from friends who did have a subscription, it was kind of corny. I mean you had some cool interviews and previews of upcoming (at the time_ movies and TV shows, but it wasn't anything grand. Regardless though I'm sure that most of us remember this iconic commercial for it!

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ERROR 404: WASN'T BORN YET. ;D

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/08/17 at 12:21 am

I must admit, I'm going to sound like an elitist here, and I'm sure people younger than me will disagree, but it annoys me a bit when I go on YouTube and I see these 16 year olds reminiscing on the evil known as post-2005 Nickelodeon, when Spongebob was shown 4534636346 times a day, good shows like Catscratch and My Life as a Teenage Robot were getting shafted, and the Naked Brothers Band was the most popular thing of the moment.

Reminiscing on post-Viacom merger Nickelodeon should be punishable by law. Also, reminiscing on post-2006 CN should be punishable by law, reminiscing on post-2005/6 Disney Channel should be punishable by law, and reminiscing on post-2007 History Channel should be punishable by law.

(j/k)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/08/17 at 10:12 am


I must admit, I'm going to sound like an elitist here, and I'm sure people younger than me will disagree, but it annoys me a bit when I go on YouTube and I see these 16 year olds reminiscing on the evil known as post-2005 Nickelodeon, when Spongebob was shown 4534636346 times a day, good shows like Catscratch and My Life as a Teenage Robot were getting shafted, and the Naked Brothers Band was the most popular thing of the moment.

Reminiscing on post-Viacom merger Nickelodeon should be punishable by law. Also, reminiscing on post-2006 CN should be punishable by law, reminiscing on post-2005/6 Disney Channel should be punishable by law, and reminiscing on post-2007 History Channel should be punishable by law.

(j/k)

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Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/09/17 at 3:30 am

Even more silver age Nick stuff. Some rare stuff here; praise CDCB2 for his awesome collecting efforts.

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I'm a bit surprised Nick referred to the Rugrats Movie as a "classic" in the commercial on the second video, even though it hadn't been that long since it premiered. 6 years isn't really a classic, tbh.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/09/17 at 3:40 pm

Since nobody's replied to my trove of my commercials, I guess the dream of Silver Age Nick is dead.

R.I.P.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/09/17 at 4:12 pm


Since nobody's replied to my trove of my commercials, I guess the dream of Silver Age Nick is dead.

R.I.P.


You could buy most of the Silver Age Nick shows on DVD. It's not really a big deal. lol

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mxcrashxm on 04/09/17 at 6:28 pm


You could buy most of the Silver Age Nick shows on DVD. It's not really a big deal. lol
I think he was talking about the commercials, not the shows themselves.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/10/17 at 6:21 pm

I'm still working on my Silver Age Nick compilation, you guys still interested in seeing it when it gets done?

The reason I chose 2000 as the starting date for my compilation is because to normies, the golden age of Nick isn't 1991-1996 or whatever; it's the ENTIRE "90s." Thus, including any year of 90s Nick in a Silver Age Nick compilation would probably throw them off and confuse their simple non-geeky minds.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/10/17 at 6:24 pm


I'm still working on my Silver Age Nick compilation, you guys still interested in seeing it when it gets done?

The reason I chose 2000 as the starting date for my compilation is because to normies, the golden age of Nick isn't 1991-1996 or whatever; it's the ENTIRE "90s." Thus, including any year of 90s Nick in a Silver Age Nick compilation would probably throw them off and confuse their simple non-geeky minds.

I'm still interested :).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/11/17 at 4:29 pm

Here's a small preview of my much larger work-in-progress. 2005 was the easiest to find bumpers for, so I did it first.

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Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mxcrashxm on 04/11/17 at 4:36 pm


Here's a small preview of my much larger work-in-progress. 2005 was the easiest to find bumpers for, so I did it first.

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Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/11/17 at 4:38 pm

You're right, I had set it to private by mistake.

Does it work now?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mxcrashxm on 04/11/17 at 4:39 pm


You're right, I had set it to private by mistake.

Does it work now?
Yeah.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/11/17 at 4:44 pm

You like it?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/11/17 at 4:45 pm


You like it?

I like it.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mxcrashxm on 04/11/17 at 4:46 pm


You like it?
I haven't seen it yet, but i will soon.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/11/17 at 9:29 pm


I haven't seen it yet, but i will soon.

How bout now?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mxcrashxm on 04/11/17 at 9:32 pm


How bout now?
I'll watch it when i get home

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/11/17 at 11:11 pm


What's your favorite silver age Nick show or cartoon?

Another one of my favorite silver age Nick shows was Danny Phantom.

Seasons 1 and 2 are the ones I like, but I like season 1 better because, and maybe's it's my nostalgia talking, I feel like it had more of a chill and nostalgic comfy vibe to it that was lost in s2.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/11/17 at 11:13 pm


Another one of my favorite silver age Nick shows was Danny Phantom.

Seasons 1 and 2 are the ones I like, but I like season 1 a bit better because, and maybe it's just my nostalgia talking, it had more of a "chill" and comfy vibe to it that was lost in s2.

Danny Phantom was a BOSS LEVEL show 8).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/11/17 at 11:17 pm

Remember summer of 2005 when Nick had TV movies like Reign Storm (and later The Ultimate Enemy) for Danny, School's Out for Fairly Oddparents, and Escape from Cluster Prime for My life as a teenage robot?

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That was really damn HYPE, maybe the last time Nick was ever hype in my eyes, other than season 2 of Avatar in 2006.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/11/17 at 11:19 pm

(cont) 2003-2005 are some of my favorite years for Nick because it's the first time they really decided to do action cartoons with story arcs. Something they had NEVER tried before. Stepping out of your comfort zone is good.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/11/17 at 11:23 pm


Remember summer of 2005 when Nick had TV movies like Reign Storm (and later The Ultimate Enemy) for Danny, School's Out for Fairly Oddparents, and Escape from Cluster Prime for My life as a teenage robot?

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That was really damn HYPE, maybe the last time Nick was ever hype in my eyes, other than season 2 of Avatar in 2006.

Well, I am The REIGN Man...so of course I remember 8).


(cont) 2003-2005 are some of my favorite years for Nick because it's the first time they really decided to do action cartoons with story arcs. Something they had NEVER tried before. Stepping out of your comfort zone is good.

I agree it was a good decision.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/11/17 at 11:25 pm


Well, I am The REIGN Man...so of course I remember 8).

If you were the real Reign Man you'd have a King Pariah avatar. Faker! ;)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/11/17 at 11:28 pm


If you were the real Reign Man you'd have a King Pariah avatar. Faker! ;)

Uh oh, you've spotted me.....:-X :-X :-X  ;).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/12/17 at 3:23 am

When I'm done with this I've thought about making a 2000-2005/6 Disney Channel compilation and a 2000-2006 CN compilation. You guys down for that?

I must admit, choosing to include or exclude 2006 from these compilations will be one of toughest choices in my life.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/12/17 at 7:27 am


Remember summer of 2005 when Nick had TV movies like Reign Storm (and later The Ultimate Enemy) for Danny, School's Out for Fairly Oddparents, and Escape from Cluster Prime for My life as a teenage robot?

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That was really damn HYPE, maybe the last time Nick was ever hype in my eyes, other than season 2 of Avatar in 2006.


I really loved that special. Scratch that. School's Out was my favorite special from the Fairy Oddparents of all time. I loved of how they made it into where it expresses the children having lots of freedom.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/12/17 at 9:59 am


When I'm done with this I've thought about making a 2000-2005/6 Disney Channel compilation and a 2000-2006 CN compilation. You guys down for that?

I must admit, choosing to include or exclude 2006 from these compilations will be one of toughest choices in my life.

I'm down for that.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mxcrashxm on 04/12/17 at 4:31 pm


Here's a small preview of my much larger work-in-progress. 2005 was the easiest to find bumpers for, so I did it first.

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Looking great man. Is this for the whole year?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/12/17 at 4:35 pm


Looking great man. Is this for the whole year?

Almost the entire year.

There seems to be a real paucity of 2005 Nick material on YouTube compared to 2000-2004 material, though. I managed to flush out nearly all the 05 Nick videos on YouTube, and it only adds up to an hour of content. By contrast, I flushed out most of the 2004 Nick videos from YT and they total six hours. :o

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mxcrashxm on 04/12/17 at 4:44 pm


Almost the entire year.

There seems to be a real paucity of 2005 Nick material on YouTube compared to 2000-2004 material, though. I managed to flush out nearly all the 05 Nick videos on YouTube, and it only adds up to an hour of content. By contrast, I flushed out most of the 2004 Nick videos from YT and they total six hours. :o
Nice ;). It's because I missed half of the year by losing cable that summer. >:(

So I take it that 2005 will be about a hour while 2004 is 5 more hours longer?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/12/17 at 11:22 pm


Nice ;). It's because I missed half of the year by losing cable that summer. >:(

So I take it that 2005 will be about a hour while 2004 is 5 more hours longer?

Roger.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/25/17 at 12:46 am

Speaking of silver age Nick, any of you seen this video? It floors me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ5tWMdoQdg

The song used here actually fits better than Ocean Man, I think.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 04/25/17 at 8:32 am

I hate to burst everybody's bubble, but you guys know that Nickelodeon hasn't been any good since 1998, right? ;)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Shemp97 on 04/25/17 at 11:39 am

Extend it to 2008-9 and you have a case:
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Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Shemp97 on 04/25/17 at 11:41 am


I hate to burst everybody's bubble, but you guys know that Nickelodeon hasn't been any good since 1998, right? ;)

Nick was not good until after 1998. And this is coming from someone who grew up on those shows.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 04/25/17 at 11:43 am


Extend it to 2008-9 and you have a case:
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Nick was not good until after 1998. And this is coming from someone who grew up on those shows.


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Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/25/17 at 12:45 pm

I watched Nickelodeon until 2009.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/25/17 at 4:16 pm

Nickelodeon died when that garbage show All That took over for You Can't Do That on Television.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/25/17 at 4:21 pm


Nickelodeon died when that garbage show All That took over for You Can't Do That on Television.

All That was not garbage....you take that back >:(.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/25/17 at 4:24 pm


All That was not garbage....you take that back >:(.


All That is the bootleg YCDTOTV. :P

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/25/17 at 4:27 pm


All That is the bootleg YCDTOTV. :P

No, don't you dare say that again. I will fly to the Bay Area tomorrow and find you....then kill hunt you.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/25/17 at 4:28 pm


No, don't you dare say that again. I will fly to the Bay Area tomorrow and find you....then kill hunt you.


But it's the truth! This isn't no fake news or nothin! ;)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/25/17 at 4:29 pm


But it's the truth! This isn't no fake news or nothin! ;)

You're inthe00s.com's resident fake news channel :).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/25/17 at 4:30 pm


You're inthe00s.com's resident fake news channel :).


Not this time! It's a fact: YCDTOTV is much better than All That ever was. :P

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/25/17 at 4:32 pm


Not this time! It's a fact: YCDTOTV is much better than All That ever was. :P

LOL, to be honest I don't care. I never watched YCDTOTV and All That growing up :P.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/25/17 at 4:33 pm


LOL, to be honest I don't care. I never watched YCDTOTV and All That growing up :P.


Fair enough. ;D

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/25/17 at 4:36 pm


Extend it to 2008-9 and you have a case

No thanks.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/25/17 at 4:37 pm


No thanks.

Yes thanks :).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/25/17 at 10:58 pm

If we extend silver age Nick to 2008-2009 then that means the Naked brothers band, Back to the Barnyard, endless reruns of spongebob, and Tak and the power of juju are part of silver age. Do you really want that?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/26/17 at 6:37 am


If we extend silver age Nick to 2008-2009 then that means the Naked brothers band, Back to the Barnyard, endless reruns of spongebob, and Tak and the power of juju are part of silver age. Do you really want that?

I'm just saying that I liked Nickelodeon until 2008/2009.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 04/26/17 at 8:25 am

Now I hate to burst Jordan's bubble, but Nickelodeon really wasn't that great in the '80s either. "80s Nick mostly just showed reruns of crappy syndicated cartoons like Heathcliff and Inspector Gadget, and You Can't Do That on Television is one of the most overrated kids shows of all-time.

Even though Nick has been around now for almost 40 years, the network was really only any good from about 1991-mid 1999 at the latest. After that it became the "Spongebob channel".

Also, I wonder if it's any coincidence that kids stopped playing outside right around the same time that Nickelodeon started to suck? ???

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/26/17 at 9:54 am


If we extend silver age Nick to 2008-2009 then that means the Naked brothers band, Back to the Barnyard, endless reruns of spongebob, and Tak and the power of juju are part of silver age. Do you really want that?


I wouldn't really think 2008-2009 would be part of the silver age. They're more like bronze age years for those reasons. Also I believe 2007 was the last year for Nick's silver age, since that was when they still had Avatar: TLA (before it ended in 2008), Catscratch, Danny Phantom, pre-Season 6 Fairy Oddparents and All Grown Up airing at the same time.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: 2001 on 04/26/17 at 10:37 am


Now I hate to burst Jordan's bubble, but Nickelodeon really wasn't that great in the '80s either. "80s Nick mostly just showed reruns of crappy syndicated cartoons like Heathcliff and Inspector Gadget, and You Can't Do That on Television is one of the most overrated kids shows of all-time.

Even though Nick has been around now for almost 40 years, the network was really only any good from about 1991-mid 1999 at the latest. After that it became the "Spongebob channel".

Also, I wonder if it's any coincidence that kids stopped playing outside right around the same time that Nickelodeon started to suck? ???


Excuse me mach!ne_he@d, but I'm the forum troll around these parts. Your posts won't ever be as good as mine so I suggest you just give up, thank you.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/26/17 at 10:43 am


Excuse me mach!ne_he@d, but I'm the forum troll around these parts. Your posts won't ever be as good as mine so I suggest you just give up, thank you.


Says the person who had YTV and Teletoon growing up.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/26/17 at 10:46 am


Excuse me mach!ne_he@d, but I'm the forum troll around these parts. Your posts won't ever be as good as mine so I suggest you just give up, thank you.


I thought I was. ???

Anyhow, Nick was way better before 1995. There is no way YCDTOTV is overrated! Compared to All That (the most overrated show of all time among dumb born-in-1991 "90s kids"), YCDTOTV is something totally obscure. Only the cool kids know it. 8)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: 2001 on 04/26/17 at 10:51 am

The best Nickelodeon show is literally Spongebob. I'm not even trolling. No one cares about these preteen shows, Spongebob is universal and iconic.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/26/17 at 10:54 am


The best Nickelodeon show is literally Spongebob. I'm not even trolling. No one cares about these preteen shows, Spongebob is universal and iconic.


Seasons 1-3 ftw!!!

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 04/26/17 at 12:13 pm


Excuse me mach!ne_he@d, but I'm the forum troll around these parts. Your posts won't ever be as good as mine so I suggest you just give up, thank you.


Are you kidding me?! I've been trolling this forum since you were in middle school. If anything, I'm the OG inthe00s troll! 8)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 04/26/17 at 7:15 pm


Are you kidding me?! I've been trolling this forum since you were in middle school. If anything, I'm the OG inthe00s troll! 8)


SET EM' STRAIGHT

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/26/17 at 7:18 pm


SET EM' STRAIGHT

THAS RITE!!!!!!

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/26/17 at 7:18 pm

Getting back to the topic of silver age Nick...

Zelda, have you seen this pre-movie Spongebob tribute? It's really good - maybe a bit somber. The Ween song used here actually fits better than "Ocean Man".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ5tWMdoQdg

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 04/26/17 at 8:03 pm

Damn good find Zelek!

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/26/17 at 8:09 pm

Thanx

I'm still working on my Silver Age Nick compilation, in case anyone's wondering. YouTube user uploads new silver age Nick recordings every week or so, which means my collection is ever expanding.

https://www.youtube.com/user/CDCB2/videos

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 04/26/17 at 9:03 pm

That's cool and yeah I've seen a few of CDCB2's recordings before! One of them I like a lot is this recording of Toon Disney from March of 2004. This just evokes so much nostalgia, and the fact that it features so many X TREME commercials is a plus 8)

tRJEoiVRT7o

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/26/17 at 9:15 pm

Nice!

Though, watching that video, I'm surprised to discover that Sonny the Cuckoo Bird went from an early 00s x-treme dude to a "real 00s" crack addict as early as March. I thought he lost his alimony more around June 2004, because everything else shifted around then, like emo music exploding in popularity, the late 90s/early 00s pop punk Jimmy Eat World style dying, and Cartoon Network changing their logo and purging most of their 90s shows. Mid 2004 shift, anyone? ;D

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/26/17 at 9:20 pm

(cont) Still, that video just further cements why 2004-early/mid 2005 was my favorite period of my childhood!

It was the perfect balance of early 2000s kid culture that was still hanging around(i.e. Teacher's Pet, Hey Arnold, Rugrats) and awesome mid 2000s kid culture(i.e. Megas XLR, Dave the Barbarian, Danny Phantom) that was coming in, :) before a bunch of mediocre stuff like Camp Lazlo, The Xs, Squirrel Boy, and My Gym Partner's a Monkey largely drowned out the early 2000s stuff in mid-late 2005 and 2006. :-\\

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 04/26/17 at 9:26 pm


Nice!

Though, watching that video, I'm surprised to discover that Sonny the Cuckoo Bird went from an early 00s x-treme dude to a "real 00s" crack addict as early as March. I thought he lost his alimony more around June 2004, because everything else shifted around then, like emo music exploding in popularity, the late 90s/early 00s pop punk Jimmy Eat World style dying, and Cartoon Network changing their logo and purging most of their 90s shows. Mid 2004 shift, anyone? ;D

(cont) Still, that video just further cements why 2004-early/mid 2005 was my favorite period of my childhood!

It was the perfect balance of early 2000s kid culture that was still hanging around(i.e. Teacher's Pet, Hey Arnold, Rugrats) and awesome mid 2000s kid culture(i.e. Megas XLR, Dave the Barbarian, Danny Phantom) that was coming in, :) before a bunch of mediocre stuff like Camp Lazlo, The Xs, Squirrel Boy, and My Gym Partner's a Monkey largely drowned out the early 2000s stuff in mid-late 2005 and 2006. :-\\


Both very good points! For me the pinnacle of my childhood both from a mathematical standpoint (mid point between ages 3 & 12) and from a subjectively nostalgic standpoint is the years 2003 & 2004. Although I do have a lot of nostalgia for Late 2005/Early 2006 due to personal reasons (moving to a new state, meeting new friends, etc.). Really the years 2003-2007 are some of my most cherished memories being ages 7-11 during that time :)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/26/17 at 9:53 pm

True but I'm talking about kids culture, not personal experiences. And when it comes to kid culture, mid-late 2005 and 2006 were blah and mediocre compared to the stately 2004.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 04/26/17 at 9:57 pm


True but I'm talking about kids culture, not personal experiences. And when it comes to kid culture, mid-late 2005 and 2006 were blah and mediocre compared to the stately 2004.


I agree my favorite span for kid culture (and the one that evokes so much nostalgia) is probably the Late 2002-Early 2005 era give or take.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/26/17 at 9:58 pm

Since I'm 3-4 years younger than you guys.....I consider the peak of my childhood as being from 2005-2009.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/26/17 at 10:23 pm

Well yeah. That's how time works. :P

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/26/17 at 10:25 pm

Now it's the late 2005 shift... ???

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/26/17 at 10:26 pm


Well yeah. That's how time works. :P

But I'm a glitch in the Matrix....:P

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/26/17 at 10:47 pm


Now it's the late 2005 shift... ???

Now now Jordan, there are many shifts all throughout time, not just the late 2006 shift. Time has room for several shifts.

For example, there's the late 2001 shift (9/11).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/26/17 at 11:28 pm


Now now Jordan, there are many shifts all throughout time, not just the late 2006 shift. Time has room for several shifts.

For example, there's the late 2001 shift (9/11).


You're right, Zelek. The late 2001 shift ended all optimism this country had. I remember looking at the TV on that faithful day and felt sad and thought to myself "I will never be happy again". The 90's ended on 9/11. Everything ended in late 2001 but I must note that the first 10 days of September are still good 90's days, it's the last few days after the 11th that suck and brought us into the dreadful modern world. :-[ :-\\ :\'(

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mxcrashxm on 04/26/17 at 11:37 pm


You're right, Zelek. The late 2001 shift ended all optimism this country had. I remember looking at the TV on that faithful day and felt sad and thought to myself "I will never be happy again". The 90's ended on 9/11. Everything ended in late 2001 but I must note that the first 10 days of September are still good 90's days, it's the last few days after the 11th that suck and brought us into the dreadful modern world. :-[ :-\\ :\'(
I'm not sure if you're joking, and if you aren't i agree. F**K 9/11! That event has brought nothing but a dark, serious and destructive tone.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/27/17 at 3:04 am


You're right, Zelek. The late 2001 shift ended all optimism this country had. I remember looking at the TV on that faithful day and felt sad and thought to myself "I will never be happy again". The 90's ended on 9/11. Everything ended in late 2001 but I must note that the first 10 days of September are still good 90's days, it's the last few days after the 11th that suck and brought us into the dreadful modern world. :-[ :-\\ :\'(

I actually do know many people who believe this.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/27/17 at 4:34 am


I'm not sure if you're joking, and if you aren't i agree. F**K 9/11! That event has brought nothing but a dark, serious and destructive tone.


And we've never left that era since. :\'( :\'( :\'(


I actually do know many people who believe this.


And it's a such sad moment. I remember back in the day we had optimism; bands like Starship sang songs like "We Built This City" which evoked a sense of pride in the American people. After 9/11 (late 2001, sans the first 10 days of september, the end of the era) we lost that optimism and now we're stuck with Justin Bieber, Jonas Brothers and Hannah Montana! >:( >:(

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 04/27/17 at 9:01 am


Thanx

I'm still working on my Silver Age Nick compilation, in case anyone's wondering. YouTube user uploads new silver age Nick recordings every week or so, which means my collection is ever expanding.

https://www.youtube.com/user/CDCB2/videos


Just for the record, even though this era of Nick was past my time, I really do appreciate what you guys are doing. Nostalgia videos are basically my favorite thing on YouTube, and anybody who works to keep nostalgia alive and thriving on YT is cool in my book. 8)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mxcrashxm on 04/29/17 at 5:42 pm


And we've never left that era since. :\'( :\'( :\'(

And it's a such sad moment. I remember back in the day we had optimism; bands like Starship sang songs like "We Built This City" which evoked a sense of pride in the American people. After 9/11 (late 2001, sans the first 10 days of september, the end of the era) we lost that optimism and now we're stuck with Justin Bieber, Jonas Brothers and Hannah Montana! >:( >:(
Hopefully, the next decade is truly positive. I want to be in an era where everything is joyful, beautiful and funny/cheesy all at the time. :)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/29/17 at 5:44 pm


Hopefully, the next decade is truly positive. I want to be in an era where everything is joyful, beautiful and funny/cheesy all at the time. :)

Me too. The 2020s is when I'll be mostly in my 20s....I hope it's a great decade.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mxcrashxm on 04/29/17 at 6:07 pm


Me too. The 2020s is when I'll be mostly in my 20s....I hope it's a great decade.
Yeah. I'm trying to give the rest of the decade a chance, but it's not helping with all the unnecessary BS going on.

__________________________

Here's more videos for this thread.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzaZEZrDpQ0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKO69mGDq2o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToAzAuOu-rA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruAD1SHrHzw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAbV2ddYeWM

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 05/01/17 at 4:08 am

Do any of you remember watching this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD_KPpbWnIU

It's from December 2006. I found this on one of my VHS tapes. I assume this aired on the US Nickelodeon as well?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/01/17 at 4:15 am

Yes, but here're in the U.S., they mostly aired that bumper from 2000 to 2004. After that, they never aired it again. :\'(

Australia's Nick is probably a few years behind ours. Hence why that bumper was still playing there in 2006.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 05/01/17 at 4:28 am


Yes, but here're in the U.S., they mostly aired that bumper from 2000 to 2004. After that, they never aired it again. :\'(

Australia's Nick is probably a few years behind ours. Hence why that bumper was still playing there in 2006.


That's strange. Jimmy Neutron ended in 2006, so you'd think that the US Nick still would have aired it up until then. I don't think our Nickelodeon is years behind the US one, but obviously there would be a few differences between the two.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/01/17 at 6:39 am


Do any of you remember watching this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD_KPpbWnIU

It's from December 2006. I found this on one of my VHS tapes. I assume this aired on the US Nickelodeon as well?

I don't remember this at all :P.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Baltimoreian on 05/01/17 at 7:15 am


That's strange. Jimmy Neutron ended in 2006, so you'd think that the US Nick still would have aired it up until then. I don't think our Nickelodeon is years behind the US one, but obviously there would be a few differences between the two.


Well, they still aired Jimmy Neutron reruns on US Nick during the late 2000s. So they still aired it after they ended the show in 2006.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/01/17 at 9:33 pm

You know, as time goes on I'm starting to doubt 2005 being a silver age Nick year. 2005 was better than 2006 because at least they didn't spam Spongebob yet, but in 2005, Nick was starting to focus less on the Nicktoons and more on the teenybopper sitcoms, which gave it a rather different feel from 2000-2004. Not to mention, Nick Studios closed in 2005, and the Viacom/CBS split happened in 2005 as well.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/01/17 at 9:43 pm


Hopefully, the next decade is truly positive. I want to be in an era where everything is joyful, beautiful and funny/cheesy all at the time. :)


I hope so. Ever since Hannah Montanna and Jonas Brothers debuts in late 2001 I've been the most depressed ever. :-\\

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/01/17 at 9:45 pm

Hopefully Trump can bring back cheerful pre-9/11 songs like We Built This City and Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/01/17 at 9:49 pm

I gotta say, Trump has promise. He might be able to bring us out of these dark post-9/11 late 2001 times and back to where it all began. You know what they say, It's Not Over ('Til It's Over).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 05/02/17 at 9:12 am

So, was it the Late 2001 Shift or the Late 2006 Shift that changed everything? I'm confused now. ???

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 05/02/17 at 10:42 am


So, was it the Late 2001 Shift or the Late 2006 Shift that changed everything? I'm confused now. ???

The Late 2006 shift and the 2008 shift, those were the biggest shifts of the recent years.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/03/17 at 1:36 am


So, was it the Late 2001 Shift or the Late 2006 Shift that changed everything? I'm confused now. ???


The late 2001 shift is the biggest shift because Hannah Montana and Jonas Brothers made their debuts on September 12th, 2001. Also the release date of the iPhone.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 05/03/17 at 9:12 am


The late 2001 shift is the biggest shift because Hannah Montana and Jonas Brothers made their debuts on September 12th, 2001. Also the release date of the iPhone.


I'm going to introduce a controversial new theory. How about the late 1999 shift?! :o

I remember when school started back in late 1999 for the first time since Columbine that we had armed resource officers, metal detectors and requirements to wear clear bookbags, all of which had not been the case the previous year. Plus, students were constantly looking over their shoulder expecting some dude in a trench coat to walk in and start shooting up the class any minute. Things never felt quite the same after that. :-\\

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/03/17 at 11:11 am


I'm going to introduce a controversial new theory. How about the late 1999 shift?! :o

I remember when school started back in late 1999 for the first time since Columbine that we had armed resource officers, metal detectors and requirements to wear clear bookbags, all of which had not been the case the previous year. Plus, students were constantly looking over their shoulder expecting some dude in a trench coat to walk in and start shooting up the class any minute. Things never felt quite the same after that. :-\\

"It was all a dream" ;).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/03/17 at 6:06 pm


I'm going to introduce a controversial new theory. How about the late 1999 shift?! :o

I remember when school started back in late 1999 for the first time since Columbine that we had armed resource officers, metal detectors and requirements to wear clear bookbags, all of which had not been the case the previous year. Plus, students were constantly looking over their shoulder expecting some dude in a trench coat to walk in and start shooting up the class any minute. Things never felt quite the same after that. :-\\


No, because 1999 and 2000 are still 90's years. 2001 was mostly a 90's year even early-late 2001 (the first 10 days of late 2001) are still 100% 90's with Nirvana, flannel and grunge but then the twin towers collapsed and Hannah Montana/Jonas Brothers debuted and killed the golden age Disney channel.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: the2001 on 05/05/17 at 7:21 pm

Nick kinda fell off in 2006

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/05/17 at 7:25 pm

I agree.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: the2001 on 05/05/17 at 8:36 pm


I agree.


I remember on one day in the summer of 2006 NICK started playing rugrats and Ren and Stimpy for a few hours,
that was like the last time I ever remember Nick playing classic nicktoons.


Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/05/17 at 8:44 pm

Yep, it was on a block called "Nick Rewind".

If Cyma Zarghami weren't president at that time, maybe the block would've lasted more than two months.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: the2001 on 05/05/17 at 8:48 pm


Yep, it was on a block called "Nick Rewind".

If Cyma Zarghami weren't president at that time, maybe the block would've lasted more than two months.


so what exactly happened? Can you give me a run down of the behind the scenes drama?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/05/17 at 8:50 pm

A number of changes affected Nick in 05/06; in May 2005, Nickelodeon Studios was shut down. Later, in December 2005, Viacom and CBS split apart. As part of this re-organization of the two companies, Nick's old president Herb Scannell left and took on a new job at the BBC Worldwide.

Cyma Zarghami, who was the Vice President during Nick's silver age, took over as President in January 2006 and, some would argue, messed everything up by replacing the variety in their schedule with endless SpongeBob reruns(which still affects Nick to this day), as well as less favored shows like Naked Brothers Band, Fanboy and Chum Chum, Tak and the Power of Juju, and Back to the Barnyard. She also cancelled Danny Phantom prematurely which was why the third season was so rushed and lame.

Though, one could argue Herb was already on his way to ruining Nickelodeon anyways or at least "selling out". By Late 2004-2005, Nick was already focusing less on the Nicktoons and more on teenybopper sitcoms. SNICK, U-Pick Live, and Friday Night Nicktoons were already gone when he resigned, and he was the one who closed Nick Studios back in 05 because he didn't like Florida. Plus he screwed Invader Zim's chances of success back in 2002 and nobody liked that.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: the2001 on 05/05/17 at 8:57 pm


A number of changes affected Nick in 05/06; in May 2005, Nickelodeon Studios was shut down. Later, in December 2005, Viacom and CBS split apart. As part of this re-organization of the two companies, Nick's old president Herb Scannell left and took on a new job at the BBC Worldwide.

Cyma Zarghami, who was the Vice President during Nick's silver age, took over as President in January 2006 and, some would argue, messed everything up by replacing the variety in their schedule with endless SpongeBob reruns(which still affects Nick to this day), as well as less favored shows like Naked Brothers Band, Fanboy and Chum Chum, Tak and the Power of Juju, and Back to the Barnyard. She also cancelled Danny Phantom prematurely which was why the third season was so rushed and lame.

Though, one could argue Herb was already on his way to ruining Nickelodeon anyways or at least "selling out". By Late 2004-2005, Nick was already focusing less on the Nicktoons and more on teenybopper sitcoms. And SNICK, U-Pick Live, and Friday Night Nicktoons were already gone when he resigned.


wait so is this why snick was canceled randomly in aug 2004?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/05/17 at 8:59 pm

Probably. Nick, CN, and the other kids' networks went through big changes in 2004, we all know this already. Though to be fair, most of the things they got rid of had been around since circa 1997; it was seven years of more or less the same-old same-old, so they probably thought it was time for a change.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/21/17 at 12:49 am

Still working on the Silver Age Nick compilation, FYI.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/25/17 at 4:22 pm

Anyone remember this old commercial from 2003? It's amusing for two reasons. One because it's so deliciously early 2000s cheese. Two because it portrays such a terrible president in a fairly light-hearted fashion, and it came out right when the Iraq War was starting.

ARag7F1pPpg

Of course they couldn't say anything bad about Bush because it's a kids network, and they would've probably lost advertisers if they did.

They'd probably be able to make fun of Trump though, since being a liberal is now "hip" and "cool" and the "status quo".

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Sir Rothchild on 05/28/17 at 3:41 pm


Anyone remember this old commercial from 2003? It's amusing for two reasons. One because it's so deliciously early 2000s cheese. Two because it portrays such a terrible president in a fairly light-hearted fashion, and it came out right when the Iraq War was starting.

ARag7F1pPpg

Of course they couldn't say anything bad about Bush because it's a kids network, and they would've probably lost advertisers if they did.

They'd probably be able to make fun of Drumpf though, since being a liberal is now "hip" and "cool" and the "status quo".


Much like Bush, they probably shouldn't really say that in front of children. Especially if their parents are Trump supporters.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/28/17 at 3:44 pm


Much like Bush, they probably shouldn't really say that in front of children. Especially if their parents are Trump supporters.

They'd still do it anyway. Crossing the line is "hip" and "cool" for both sides now.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 05/28/17 at 4:16 pm


Anyone remember this old commercial from 2003? It's amusing for two reasons. One because it's so deliciously early 2000s cheese. Two because it portrays such a terrible president in a fairly light-hearted fashion, and it came out right when the Iraq War was starting.

ARag7F1pPpg

Of course they couldn't say anything bad about Bush because it's a kids network, and they would've probably lost advertisers if they did.

They'd probably be able to make fun of Trump though, since being a liberal is now "hip" and "cool" and the "status quo".


Part of it could be because of how popular Bush was at the time. Bush had about a 70% approval rating throughout most of 2003, especially around the time the Iraq War started. I remember the days when, if you said anything negative about Bush, you were immediately branded as unpatriotic. Nickelodeon would've been destroyed if they'd attacked Bush in 2003.

On the flip side, Trump is quite unpopular right now, really with everybody outside of his core supporters. His approval ratings is at about 40%, and I expect it to be even lower than that before long.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/28/17 at 8:43 pm


Anyone remember this old commercial from 2003? It's amusing for two reasons. One because it's so deliciously early 2000s cheese. Two because it portrays such a terrible president in a fairly light-hearted fashion, and it came out right when the Iraq War was starting.

ARag7F1pPpg

Of course they couldn't say anything bad about Bush because it's a kids network, and they would've probably lost advertisers if they did.

They'd probably be able to make fun of Trump though, since being a liberal is now "hip" and "cool" and the "status quo".


Yeah I remember this, I was about 6 at the time. Like MachineHead said, Bush was VERY popular in the early 2000's, so to diss him (especially on a children's network) would be suicide.

Also do any of you guys remember this from 2004?

gN2Rq6JGVsk

I remember this was aired in the Summer of 2004 during the re-election campaign(s) of W. Bush and Kerry.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/28/17 at 8:45 pm

This one as well:

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Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/28/17 at 8:49 pm


Also do any of you guys remember this from 2004?

gN2Rq6JGVsk

I remember this was aired in the Summer of 2004 during the re-election campaign(s) of W. Bush and Kerry.

Yes I remember this. This was one of the last advertisements Nick did that was cute and had a feel-good message, shortly afterwards it became teenybopper vapidness 24/7.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/28/17 at 9:33 pm


Yes I remember this. This was one of the last advertisements Nick did that was cute and had a feel-good message, shortly afterwards it became teenybopper vapidness 24/7.


Lol true. I liked Nick's marketing in the early 2000's. Like you said it was much livelier and fun back then. Some of my favorite bumpers were the Pictograph bumpers from back then:

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Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/28/17 at 9:35 pm

I remember stuff about Nickelodeon from 2001-2003 but not a lot of commercials....I guess it's because I was so young.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/28/17 at 9:37 pm


I remember stuff about Nickelodeon from 2001-2004 but not a lot of commercials....I guess it's because I was so young.


Its all good. It was pretty similar with me from 1999-2001 since we only had cable sporadically during certain months. However, I was blessed to have those Orange VHS tapes back in the day. Had tons of Rugrats and Blues Clues tapes 8)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/28/17 at 9:44 pm


Its all good. It was pretty similar with me from 1999-2001 since we only had cable sporadically during certain months. However, I was blessed to have those Orange VHS tapes back in the day. Had tons of Rugrats and Blues Clues tapes 8)

Yeah, that's pretty awesome.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/28/17 at 10:00 pm


I remember stuff about Nickelodeon from 2001-2003 but not a lot of commercials....I guess it's because I was so young.

At least you saw 2004 Nick more vividly. 2004 was the best year of Nick, in my not so humble opinion.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/28/17 at 10:09 pm


At least you saw 2004 Nick more vividly. 2004 was the best year of Nick, in my not so humble opinion.

Yeah, 2004 was a solid year for Nickeolodeon.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 05/29/17 at 11:49 am


Yeah I remember this, I was about 6 at the time. Like MachineHead said, Bush was VERY popular in the early 2000's, so to diss him (especially on a children's network) would be suicide.

Also do any of you guys remember this from 2004?

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I remember this was aired in the Summer of 2004 during the re-election campaign(s) of W. Bush and Kerry.


That is very reminiscent of this from back in my Nick days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP5TlIdeH5Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E89dVAPlShY

I wonder if they still did Kids Pick the President in the 2000's?


At least you saw 2004 Nick more vividly. 2004 was the best year of Nick, in my not so humble opinion.


We all know 1994 was the best year in Nick history. Anything else is just heresy!

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/29/17 at 12:15 pm


That is very reminiscent of this from back in my Nick days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP5TlIdeH5Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E89dVAPlShY

I wonder if they still did Kids Pick the President in the 2000's?


I personally do not remember, but they apparently brought it back for the 2016 election:

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We all know 1994 was the best year in Nick history. Anything else is just heresy!


I always leaned more towards 1995 being the best Nick year in its history, but its all heresay since I don't have any firsthand experience of Nick from back then ;D


For me personally, I felt like the years 2000-2004 were the best, with probably 2002 being my favorite year.

A notable example as to why 2002 represented everything I loved about early 2000's Nickelodeon:

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Also any of you guys remember these Paramount VHS tapes back in the day?
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Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 05/29/17 at 12:25 pm


I personally do not remember, but they apparently brought it back for the 2016 election:

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I always leaned more towards 1995 being the best Nick year in its history, but its all heresay since I don't have any firsthand experience of Nick from back then ;D


For me personally, I felt like the years 2000-2004 were the best, with probably 2002 being my favorite year.


I'm actually surprised that they brought it back for 2016 given how controversial this election was. I would've assumed that they would've just thought it best to ignore the whole thing and avoid stirring up any trouble.

1995 was a great Nick year, too. I always thought 1996 was a contender as well. Truthfully, any year between 1994-1996 could be considered the best.

I don't actually hate '00s Nick, by the way. Despite what some here may think of me, I'm not some kind of '90s kid elitest snob!

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/29/17 at 12:28 pm

Just to re-assure you guys, I am still working on the silver age Nick compilation.

And no this isn't like Duke Nukem Forver where it's something that will never come out, it WILL come out. I've already flushed out the 2003-2005 videos on Youtube, now on to the 2000-2002 ones.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/29/17 at 12:32 pm


I'm actually surprised that they brought it back for 2016 given how controversial this election was. I would've assumed that they would've just thought it best to ignore the whole thing and avoid stirring up any trouble.


Very good point. If you actually go onto the videos on YouTube you'll notice that the Trump had more likes than dislikes, while the Hillary video had more dislikes than likes. I was actually pretty surprised given how Clinton was ahead of Trump in the polls for the majority of the election year. This was evident when during the election she won the popular vote by about 3 million votes.


1995 was a great Nick year, too. I always thought 1996 was a contender as well. Truthfully, any year between 1994-1996 could be considered the best.

I don't actually hate '00s Nick, by the way. Despite what some here may think of me, I'm not some kind of '90s kid elitest snob!


Yeah I have to agree, the mid 90's was the pinnacle of quality for the network! Also don't worry we know you're just kidding ;D


Just to re-assure you guys, I am still working on the silver age Nick compilation.

And no this isn't like Duke Nukem Forver where it's something that will never come out, it WILL come out. I've already flushed out the 2003-2005 videos on Youtube, now on to the 2000-2002 ones.


As long as you get it out before Kingdom Hearts III and Half Life 3, I'll be happy!

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 05/29/17 at 12:39 pm


Very good point. If you actually go onto the videos on YouTube you'll notice that the Trump had more likes than dislikes, while the Hillary video had more dislikes than likes. I was actually pretty surprised given how Clinton was ahead of Trump in the polls for the majority of the election year. This was evident when during the election she won the popular vote by about 3 million votes.


Probably trolls from /r/The_Donald. They bomb pretty much every Trump video on YouTube with likes. It's actually kind of sad.


Yeah I have to agree, the mid 90's was the pinnacle of quality for the network! Also don't worry we know you're just kidding ;D


Good, because the only thing worse online in 2017 than being thought of as a '90s kid elitest snob is being thought of as a member of the Alt-Right!

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/29/17 at 12:48 pm


Probably trolls from /r/The_Donald. They bomb pretty much every Trump video on YouTube with likes. It's actually kind of sad.

Good, because the only thing worse online in 2017 than being thought of as a '90s kid elitest snob is being thought of as a member of the Alt-Right!


I like to call them the Alt-Reich. In all honesty they'd most likely be complimented...

Btw, did you ever participated in Kids Pick The President back in the 90's?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/29/17 at 12:53 pm

Man, Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts II were big parts of my childhood. I can't wait for KHIII....all I need now is Sonic Adventure 3 and Skate 4. Maybe, even a SWAT 5.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/29/17 at 1:02 pm


I like to call them the Alt-Reich. In all honesty they'd most likely be complimented...

To be fair, even a number of average joes didn't like Hillary, not just the alt right. My mom admits she was the least charismatic candidate the DNC could pick.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/29/17 at 1:05 pm


To be fair, even a number of average joes didn't like Hillary, not just the alt right. My mom admits she was the least charismatic candidate the DNC could pick.

Hillary wasn't very charismatic but none of the Democratic candidates were in 2016.

Bernie Sanders? Populist but not charismatic
Martin O'Malley? Boring
Lincoln Chafee? Who?
Jim Webb? Boring

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/29/17 at 1:07 pm


Man, Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts II were big parts of my childhood. I can't wait for KHIII....all I need now is Sonic Adventure 3 and Skate 4. Maybe, even a SWAT 5.


I loved Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2 as well! It was either Kingdom Hearts or Final Fantasy X (don't exactly remember which) that were the first RPGs I beaten, I think around 2004/5. After that, I then played FF7, FF8, & FF9 all on PS1, however, it took years for me to beat those games, but I eventually did!



To be fair, even a number of average joes didn't like Hillary, not just the alt right. My mom admits she was the least charismatic candidate the DNC could pick.


Good point! I think I mentioned on another thread how I couldn't bring myself to vote for Clinton either.



Hillary wasn't very charismatic but none of the Democratic candidates were in 2016.

Bernie Sanders? Populist but not charismatic
Martin O'Malley? Boring
Lincoln Chafee? Who?
Jim Webb? Boring


Please for the love of God tell me you're trolling

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Sir Rothchild on 05/29/17 at 1:09 pm


Also any of you guys remember these Paramount VHS tapes back in the day?
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I remember having a few Spongebob and Nick Jr. VHS tapes that were distributed by Paramount. Most of them were made during the early 2000s, but it still had a decent impact within my childhood.

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Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/29/17 at 1:16 pm


I loved Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2 as well! It was either Kingdom Hearts or Final Fantasy X (don't exactly remember which) that were the first RPGs I beaten, I think around 2004/5. After that, I then played FF7, FF8, & FF9 all on PS1, however, it took years for me to beat those games, but I eventually did!

Awesome 8).


Good point! I think I mentioned on another thread how I couldn't bring myself to vote for Clinton either.

Who did you vote for? (just asking - if you voted at all)


Please for the love of God tell me you're trolling

No, I'm not trolling. Bernie was not charismatic at all. How was he charismatic? ???


BTW, guys please put your YouTube videos in spoilers.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Sir Rothchild on 05/29/17 at 1:24 pm


BTW, guys please put your YouTube videos in spoilers.


Why? It's not like we're posting a lot of them, considering it would take like 10 videos to make somebody's page slow down.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/29/17 at 1:38 pm


Why? It's not like we're posting a lot of them, considering it would take like 10 videos to make somebody's page slow down.

Even 3-6 YouTube videos make the page load slow/slower. At least, it makes mine load slow/slower.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 05/29/17 at 1:38 pm


Btw, did you ever participated in Kids Pick The President back in the 90's?


No, it was too complicated back then for me. It wasn't like it is now where you can just go online and vote, you actually had to call a number for the candidate you wanted to vote for.

We did have a mock election when I was in 4th grade the week before the 1996 election. I voted for Bill Clinton, of course!

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/29/17 at 1:42 pm


No, it was too complicated back then for me. It wasn't like it is now where you can just go online and vote, you actually had to call a number for the candidate you wanted to vote for.

We did have a mock election when I was in 4th grade the week before the 1996 election. I voted for Bill Clinton, of course!

Knowing what you know now...if you were 18 or older in 1996 would you have voted for Bill Clinton? :)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 05/29/17 at 1:54 pm


Knowing what you know now...if you were 18 or older in 1996 would you have voted for Bill Clinton? :)


Absolutely. Bob Dole was way too old to be President by that point, and the country was in really good shape in 1996 economically, so I'm fairly sure I would've voted for Clinton if I'd been 18.

Though, it is interesting to think. If Dole had won, then George W. Bush wouldn't have been President on 9/11, which means that the Iraq War probably doesn't happen, Barack Obama doesn't get elected in 2008, and, most likely, Donald Trump doesn't get elected in 2016. Interesting how a single election can change everything like that!

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/29/17 at 1:59 pm


Absolutely. Bob Dole was way too old to be President by that point, and the country was in really good shape in 1996 economically, so I'm fairly sure I would've voted for Clinton if I'd been 18.

I agree with you.


Though, it is interesting to think. If Dole had won, then George W. Bush wouldn't have been President on 9/11, which means that the Iraq War probably doesn't happen, Barack Obama doesn't get elected in 2008, and, most likely, Donald Trump doesn't get elected in 2016. Interesting how a single election can change everything like that!

Yes, I know. It's so crazy.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/29/17 at 2:24 pm

Say, Reignman or Rothschild, have you thought about making a bronze age(2005/6-2009) Nick thread? Since you both seem to be rather fond of that era.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/29/17 at 2:36 pm


Say, Reignman or Rothschild, have you thought about making a bronze age(2005/6-2009) Nick thread? Since you both seem to be rather fond of that era.

Well, I do have a YouTube channel where I've already uploaded videos based on my childhood and the videos have done good to great with the views. However, I have no real desire to do one for Nickelodeon from 2005/6-2009. During that time (particularly - 2007-2009), I watched more CN and Disney Channel than Nick.

I don't know about Sir Rothchild though.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/29/17 at 2:43 pm


Awesome 8).
Who did you vote for? (just asking - if you voted at all)
No, I'm not trolling. Bernie was not charismatic at all. How was he charismatic? ???


BTW, guys please put your YouTube videos in spoilers.


Yeah those games were my childhood and got me into the RPG genre.

Also I voted for Jill Stein and I voted for Bernie during the primary. I was actually a stanch Libertarian before Bernie's run as I voted for mostly Republicans during the 2014 Midterms. However, in 2015 when I discovered Bernie was running I was skeptical at first about his 'Democratic Socialism'. However, after doing extensive research I came to fully better understand his policies and the nuance of different forms of socialism. I'll admit I used to be one of those 'Socialism is EVIL!!!' kind of people.

So if Bernie was able to convert Right-Libertarian me into a Left-Libertarian (take the political compass test to learn more and see where you stand, however based on my periceved understanding you'd probably also be a left-libertarian), then he'd have to charismatic in one shape or another. Even if you weren't a big fan of his campaign style, I understand his 'Brooklyn-Like Tell it Like it Is' swag wasn't for everybody, he just seemed to be the most authentic out of all of the candidates.



Absolutely. Bob Dole was way too old to be President by that point, and the country was in really good shape in 1996 economically, so I'm fairly sure I would've voted for Clinton if I'd been 18.

Though, it is interesting to think. If Dole had won, then George W. Bush wouldn't have been President on 9/11, which means that the Iraq War probably doesn't happen, Barack Obama doesn't get elected in 2008, and, most likely, Donald Trump doesn't get elected in 2016. Interesting how a single election can change everything like that!


Yeah it begs the question how different the world would've been like if Dole was elected. If he won the presidency in 1996 and possibly won re-election in 2000 how do you think he would've handled 9/11?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/29/17 at 2:46 pm


Well, I do have a YouTube channel where I've already uploaded videos based on my childhood and the videos have done good to great with the views. However, I have no real desire to do one for Nickelodeon from 2005/6-2009. During that time (particularly - 2007-2009), I watched more CN and Disney Channel than Nick.

I don't know about Sir Rothchild though.


I see what you mean. Did you like the City Era for Cartoon Network?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/29/17 at 2:54 pm


Yeah those games were my childhood and got me into the RPG genre.

Yep, definitely.


Also I voted for Jill Stein and I voted for Bernie during the primary. I was actually a stanch Libertarian before Bernie's run as I voted for mostly Republicans during the 2014 Midterms. However, in 2015 when I discovered Bernie was running I was skeptical at first about his 'Democratic Socialism'. However, after doing extensive research I came to fully better understand his policies and the nuance of different forms of socialism. I'll admit I used to be one of those 'Socialism is EVIL!!!' kind of people.

Well, that's quite a trasnformation, lol. BTW, I also used to think that "Socialism is EVIL!!" :-X...so I can't judge you.


So if Bernie was able to convert Right-Libertarian me into a Left-Libertarian (take the political compass test to learn more and see where you stand, however based on my periceved understanding you'd probably also be a left-libertarian), then he'd have to charismatic in one shape or another. Even if you weren't a big fan of his campaign style, I understand his 'Brooklyn-Like Tell it Like it Is' swag wasn't for everybody, he just seemed to be the most authentic out of all of the candidates.

Um, when it comes to Bernie...maybe it's just me because at first I was all for feeling the Bern but then he just fizzled out to me. I think that he was just not charismatic enough for me... :P. Bernie was definitely authentic though.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/29/17 at 2:56 pm


I see what you mean. Did you like the City Era for Cartoon Network?

Yes, I LOVE the City Era of Cartoon Network.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Sir Rothchild on 05/29/17 at 3:17 pm


Say, Reignman or Rothschild, have you thought about making a bronze age(2005/6-2009) Nick thread? Since you both seem to be rather fond of that era.


I guess so. The Bronze Age of Nickelodeon was fascinating for me. It was also the last era that I enjoyed from Nickelodeon, since it was before they changed the logo into the lowercase Nick.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Tyrannosaurus Rex on 05/29/17 at 3:21 pm


No, it was too complicated back then for me. It wasn't like it is now where you can just go online and vote, you actually had to call a number for the candidate you wanted to vote for.

We did have a mock election when I was in 4th grade the week before the 1996 election. I voted for Bill Clinton, of course!


In my 4th grade mock election in 2008, I was one of three people (out of 23 kids and 4 teachers) that voted for McCain. Everyone else voted for Obama.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/29/17 at 3:22 pm


In my 4th grade mock election in 2008, I was one of three people (out of 23 kids and 4 teachers) that voted for McCain. Everyone else voted for Obama.

That's because you've always been Mr. Conservative ;D.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Tyrannosaurus Rex on 05/29/17 at 3:24 pm


That's because you've always been Mr. Conservative ;D.


Not to mention, but 2008 was probably the first year I started to get a little bit involved in politics (but not as much as I have done since 2014).  ;D

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/29/17 at 3:26 pm


Not to mention, but 2008 was probably the first year I started to get a little bit involved in politics (but not as much as I have done since 2014).  ;D

Yeah, I'm basically the same. I followed the 2008 election somewhat but I was 9 and still didn't understand a lot of things about politics. I also followed the 2012 election, much more than 2008 but however 2014/2015 is when I started to follow politics very closely and intently.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/29/17 at 3:27 pm

In our 2004 third grade mock election, I voted for John Kerry.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Tyrannosaurus Rex on 05/29/17 at 3:33 pm


Yeah, I'm basically the same. I followed the 2008 election somewhat but I was 9 and still didn't understand a lot of things about politics. I also followed the 2012 election, much more than 2008 but however 2014/2015 is when I started to follow politics very closely and intently.


I agree about that. 2014 with the Ukranian tension, Elliot Rodger's rampage, the rise of the BLM movement (Black Lives Matter IMO is a black equivalent to the alt-right), the Ferguson riots, and the rise of ISIS really made me involved in politics even more.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/29/17 at 3:37 pm


I agree about that. 2014 with the Ukranian tension, Elliot Rodger's rampage, the rise of the BLM movement (Black Lives Matter IMO is a black equivalent to the alt-right), the Ferguson riots, and the rise of ISIS really made me involved in politics even more.

Yeah, those things sparked my intent following of politics.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 05/29/17 at 4:24 pm


Yeah it begs the question how different the world would've been like if Dole was elected. If he won the presidency in 1996 and possibly won re-election in 2000 how do you think he would've handled 9/11?


I doubt that Dole would've invaded Iraq, since he very likely wouldn't have had the likes of Cheney and Rumsfeld on his cabinet. Since you would've had a two term Republican President, a Democrat probably gets elected in 2004, perhaps Gore or Kerry, and they get blamed for the late '00s recession. A Republican probably gets elected in 2008, and Donald Trump is almost certainly not President right now. In fact, Obama could actually just be taking office in 2017 under this scenario!


Yeah, I'm basically the same. I followed the 2008 election somewhat but I was 9 and still didn't understand a lot of things about politics. I also followed the 2012 election, much more than 2008 but however 2014/2015 is when I started to follow politics very closely and intently.


That's pretty much exactly how it was for me, too. I don't remember the 1992 election at all, except for hearing a little bit about it in class. I was aware of the 1996 election when it was going on, but was still too young to have much interest in the campaign or the issues. I followed the 2000 election recount pretty closely because it was so historic, but didn't really care much about the issues of that campaign or whether or not Bush or Gore won. The 2004 election was the first time I followed things closely all the way from the primaries to the election.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/29/17 at 4:56 pm


That's pretty much exactly how it was for me, too. I don't remember the 1992 election at all, except for hearing a little bit about it in class. I was aware of the 1996 election when it was going on, but was still too young to have much interest in the campaign or the issues. I followed the 2000 election recount pretty closely because it was so historic, but didn't really care much about the issues of that campaign or whether or not Bush or Gore won. The 2004 election was the first time I followed things closely all the way from the primaries to the election.

Yeah, I think that's a pretty natural cycle for a lot of people.

When the 2004 election happened, I was just 5 and didn't even care or really hear about it. The 2004 election also wasn't as controversial or exciting than as the Presidential elections before and after it.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 05/30/17 at 9:47 am


Yeah, I think that's a pretty natural cycle for a lot of people.

When the 2004 election happened, I was just 5 and didn't even care or really hear about it. The 2004 election also wasn't as controversial or exciting than as the Presidential elections before and after it.


I was 8 in 2004 and I never payed attention to that election either, let alone politics. I was just in my peak childhood paying attention to kid stuff. The first election that I remember is the 2008 one, and part of that is because it was so historical. I believed Obama was going to win it all when I first heard about him in the primaries back in early 2008.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/30/17 at 10:02 am


I was 8 in 2004 and I never payed attention to that election either, let alone politics. I was just in my peak childhood paying attention to kid stuff. The first election that I remember is the 2008 one, and part of that is because it was so historical. I believed Obama was going to win it all when I first heard about him in the primaries back in early 2008.

Yeah, that is also the reason why the 2008 election was the first that I took notice to. There have been 5 Presidential elections in my lifetime (2000, 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016) and I've experienced 3 out of the 5 (could have been 4/5).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 05/31/17 at 12:28 pm


Yeah, I think that's a pretty natural cycle for a lot of people.

When the 2004 election happened, I was just 5 and didn't even care or really hear about it. The 2004 election also wasn't as controversial or exciting than as the Presidential elections before and after it.


You know, 2016 was such a divisive election, that it's kind of made 2004 seem quaint by comparison, but that wasn't the case at the time. In 2004, Democrats hated Bush with a passion and viewed him as a stupid, extreme religious warmonger. Meanwhile, Republicans hated Kerry and thought of him as an uber liberal elitest snob who was way too soft on terrorism. I remember people basically guaranteeing that there would be another 9/11 if Kerry got elected, while others were saying that we would go to war with Iran if Bush got a second term.

I don't know if any of you remember this video, but it sums up the atmosphere during the 2004 election very well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8Q-sRdV7SY

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/31/17 at 12:33 pm


You know, 2016 was such a divisive election, that it's kind of made 2004 seem quaint by comparison, but that wasn't the case at the time. In 2004, Democrats hated Bush with a passion and viewed him as a stupid, extreme religious warmonger. Meanwhile, Republicans hated Kerry and thought of him as an uber liberal elitest snob who was way too soft on terrorism. I remember people basically guaranteeing that there would be another 9/11 if Kerry got elected, while others were saying that we would go to war with Iran if Bush got a second term.

I don't know if any of you remember this video, but it sums up the atmosphere during the 2004 election very well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8Q-sRdV7SY

I don't remember that video but I do know about the political atmosphere of the 2004 Presidential election. If only we could have remained so "quaint" but Lord Emperor Trump had to happen >:(.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/31/17 at 2:29 pm


You know, 2016 was such a divisive election, that it's kind of made 2004 seem quaint by comparison, but that wasn't the case at the time. In 2004, Democrats hated Bush with a passion and viewed him as a stupid, extreme religious warmonger. Meanwhile, Republicans hated Kerry and thought of him as an uber liberal elitest snob who was way too soft on terrorism. I remember people basically guaranteeing that there would be another 9/11 if Kerry got elected, while others were saying that we would go to war with Iran if Bush got a second term.

I don't know if any of you remember this video, but it sums up the atmosphere during the 2004 election very well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8Q-sRdV7SY


Yeah people tend to forget how divisive the 2000's were politically. I vividly remember my mom,a staunch democrat all of her life, being utterly upset when Bush was re-elected in 2004.

However it seemed by around 2006, everybody, minus Republican loyalists,  seemed to hate Bush with a passion. So much so that the Democrats won back congress in 2006 and the President in 2008.

I think a similar phenomenon is currently happening right now as Trump is barely at 40% approval rating, only 4 months into his presidency!!!

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/31/17 at 2:41 pm

Btw is it just me Zelek, or did you also notice how all of the change between all of the major kid channels happen usually in or around during election years?

1996:

-The Last full classic Year for Old a School The Disney Channel

-Last year for classic Nickelodeon shows like Ren & Stimpy, Rocko's Modern Life, Pete & Pete; the premiere of shows like Hey Arnold, Blues Clues; Nick's first theatrical film Harriet Spy

-The Last full Checkerboard Year for Cartoon Network


2004:

-Toon Disney Launches Jetix, starting the decline of its reruns of Disney Afternoon and OSM programming

-Nickelodeon ends most of their 90's reruns of Ren & Stimpy, Rocko, Doug, etc.; Hey Arnold, Rugrats, Rocket Power, and Wild Thornberry's end; SNICK ends, Last year for Classic Spongebob

-Cartoon Network transitions from the Powerhouse Era into the City Era; most 50's-80's cartoon reruns are now officially on Boomerang

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/31/17 at 2:46 pm


Yeah people tend to forget how divisive the 2000's were politically. I vividly remember my mom,a staunch democrat all of her life, being utterly upset when Bush was re-elected in 2004.

However it seemed by around 2006, everybody, minus Republican loyalists,  seemed to hate Bush with a passion. So much so that the Democrats won back congress in 2006 and the President in 2008.

I think a similar phenomenon is currently happening right now as Trump is barely at 40% approval rating, only 4 months into his presidency!!!

The Democrats were much more united in 2006 and 2008 than today. Also, the Democratic Party has lost so many seats at all governmental levels since 2010. I have never seen the party I support so divided and "hallowed out". I don't think the Dems will win back Congress in 2018 but I do think that there will be a Democrat elected as President in 2020.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Sir Rothchild on 05/31/17 at 3:44 pm


The Democrats were much more united in 2006 and 2008 than today. Also, the Democratic Party has lost so many seats at all governmental levels since 2010. I have never seen the party I support so divided and "hallowed out". I don't think the Dems will win back Congress in 2018 but I do think that there will be a Democrat elected as President in 2020.


Or unless they grow more balls around the early 2020s, where they finally get seats back in Congress and a new President. Hopefully, it would be Joe Biden who would run as president because Hilary and Bernie wouldn't be that efficient within the party at the time.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/31/17 at 3:53 pm


Or unless they grow more balls around the early 2020s, where they finally get seats back in Congress and a new President. Hopefully, it would be Joe Biden who would run as president because Hilary and Bernie wouldn't be that efficient within the party at the time.


Joe Biden would be very old by then though. Heck he'd be 78 in 2020, older than Bernie was in 2016.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/31/17 at 3:54 pm


Btw is it just me Zelek, or did you also notice how all of the change between all of the major kid channels happen usually in or around during election years?

1996:

-The Last full classic Year for Old a School The Disney Channel

-Last year for classic Nickelodeon shows like Ren & Stimpy, Rocko's Modern Life, Pete & Pete; the premiere of shows like Hey Arnold, Blues Clues; Nick's first theatrical film Harriet Spy

-The Last full Checkerboard Year for Cartoon Network


2004:

-Toon Disney Launches Jetix, starting the decline of its reruns of Disney Afternoon and OSM programming

-Nickelodeon ends most of their 90's reruns of Ren & Stimpy, Rocko, Doug, etc.; Hey Arnold, Rugrats, Rocket Power, and Wild Thornberry's end; SNICK ends, Last year for Classic Spongebob

-Cartoon Network transitions from the Powerhouse Era into the City Era; most 50's-80's cartoon reruns are now officially on Boomerang

Never noticed it before. Should be noted though, that many major changes to kids programming (i.e. Disney Afternoon being replaced with One Saturday Morning, Cartoon Network introducing the "Cartoon Cartoons" brand in July 1997, etc.) happened in the Late 1997-Early 1998 season, which was NOT an election year.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/31/17 at 3:57 pm


I was 8 in 2004 and I never payed attention to that election either, let alone politics. I was just in my peak childhood paying attention to kid stuff. The first election that I remember is the 2008 one, and part of that is because it was so historical. I believed Obama was going to win it all when I first heard about him in the primaries back in early 2008.

That's funny. I was a similar age to you in 2004, and that was the first election I paid attention to, maybe thanks to my mom. Our school had a "Kids Vote" program, and I voted for John Kerry (I was told the kids' votes were actually counted in the "real" election totals nationwide, but that was probably a lie). Mostly because my mom hated Bush and wanted Kerry to win. :P

In addition to the JibJab video mentioned above, my nana also sent us this during the election:
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(Note that the video was originally created on some other website in 2004, not on Youtube, this is just a 2006 reupload of it. YouTube did not exist in 2004)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Sir Rothchild on 05/31/17 at 4:00 pm


Joe Biden would be very old by then though. Heck he'd be 78 in 2020, older than Bernie was in 2016.


https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder494/500x/59589494/sad-darth-vader-well-crap.jpg

I guess the Democrats aren't really going to get a strong candidate by the 2020 election. For anything, I really wanted somebody other than Hilary Clinton (who's basically ammo for radical feminists) to fight for the Democrats. The 2016 election is the reason why I'm currently a political independent, since everybody who supports the Democrats are either insane feminists or people who basically attack racists for no logical reason whatsoever. The Republicans are probably more sane, but they're more supported by neo-Nazis, Klansmen, and white supremacists altogether now.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/31/17 at 4:42 pm


Or unless they grow more balls around the early 2020s, where they finally get seats back in Congress and a new President. Hopefully, it would be Joe Biden who would run as president because Hilary and Bernie wouldn't be that efficient within the party at the time.

I don't know what you mean by "grow more balls" but the Dems should definitely get away from social issues and put economic issues to the forefront.

Joe Biden will be way too old in 2020 and I wouldn't vote for him.


https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder494/500x/59589494/sad-darth-vader-well-crap.jpg

I guess the Democrats aren't really going to get a strong candidate by the 2020 election. For anything, I really wanted somebody other than Hilary Clinton (who's basically ammo for radical feminists) to fight for the Democrats. The 2016 election is the reason why I'm currently a political independent, since everybody who supports the Democrats are either insane feminists or people who basically attack racists for no logical reason whatsoever. The Republicans are probably more sane, but they're more supported by neo-Nazis, Klansmen, and white supremacists altogether now.

Well, many things are wrong with this statement:

1. "everybody who supports the Democrats are either insane feminists or people who basically attack racists for no logical reason whatsoever." That is totally false and untrue. Also, um.....if you're a racist...you better expect people attack you (not physically...verbally) for being a disgusting person.
2. "The Republicans are probably more sane, but they're more supported by neo-Nazis, Klansmen, and white supremacists altogether now." I wouldn't say that the GOP is more sane but that's just my opinion. The far-right has supported the GOP since 1964...nothing new.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Sir Rothchild on 05/31/17 at 5:02 pm


Well, many things are wrong with this statement:

1. "everybody who supports the Democrats are either insane feminists or people who basically attack racists for no logical reason whatsoever." That is totally false and untrue. Also, um.....if you're a racist...you better expect people attack you (not physically...verbally) for being a disgusting person.
2. "The Republicans are probably more sane, but they're more supported by neo-Nazis, Klansmen, and white supremacists altogether now." I wouldn't say that the GOP is more sane but that's just my opinion. The far-right has supported the GOP since 1964...nothing new.


Frankly, I wouldn't really take my previous message by heart. I didn't say that I was a racist, considering I'm mixed race and I have no other choice. But I basically say that because I don't like a lot of politics. Which is probably why I sometimes generalize both major political parties. Not to mention that both Democrats and Republicans have been bickering each other, which really dissatisfies me within politics.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/31/17 at 5:07 pm


Frankly, I wouldn't really take my previous message by heart. I didn't say that I was a racist, considering I'm mixed race and I have no other choice. But I basically say that because I don't like a lot of politics. Which is probably why I sometimes generalize both major political parties. Not to mention that both Democrats and Republicans have been bickering each other, which really dissatisfies me within politics.

I never said or believe that you're racist? Where'd you get that? ???

Anyways, bickering is always apart of politics (besides dictatorships). That's what political parties are for...bickering over who is "right". Sometimes, one party is right over the other, sometimes both parties are right and there are other times when both parties are wrong.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Sir Rothchild on 05/31/17 at 5:09 pm


I never said or believe that you're racist? Where'd you get that? ???


I thought you interpreted it that way.


Anyways, bickering is always apart of politics (besides dictatorships). That's what political parties are for...bickering over who is "right". Sometimes, one party is right over the other, sometimes both parties are right and there are other times when both parties are wrong.


But I don't really think that helps me in this case. I feel really worried over politics, even though I'm more likely to vote as a political independent. That's why I don't really listen to the media that much, since they always have a biased view on things. Even though that's probably what political parties are for as well.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/31/17 at 5:16 pm


I thought you interpreted it that way.

Nah, it's all good :).


But I don't really think that helps me in this case. I feel really worried over politics, even though I'm more likely to vote as a political independent. That's why I don't really listen to the media that much, since they always have a biased view on things. Even though that's probably what political parties are for as well.

The only really super biased mainstream media source is Fox News (maybe even, MSNBC). However, the rest of mainstream media is fairly unbiased (despite what many right wingers might believe).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Sir Rothchild on 05/31/17 at 7:11 pm


The only really super biased mainstream media source is Fox News (maybe even, MSNBC). However, the rest of mainstream media is fairly unbiased (despite what many right wingers might believe).


That's probably why I get worried over the media, since they don't get a lot of positive feedback from most people. Even though it seems informative on most events (except for Fox News obviously).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/31/17 at 9:06 pm


Yeah people tend to forget how divisive the 2000's were politically. I vividly remember my mom,a staunch democrat all of her life, being utterly upset when Bush was re-elected in 2004.

However it seemed by around 2006, everybody, minus Republican loyalists,  seemed to hate Bush with a passion. So much so that the Democrats won back congress in 2006 and the President in 2008.

I think a similar phenomenon is currently happening right now as Trump is barely at 40% approval rating, only 4 months into his presidency!!!

Hmmm... could pop culture changing around late 2006 perhaps coincide with the Bush administration's record low popularity and the Democrats taking back Congress?

Under the Republicans' watch, we got Malcolm in the Middle. Under the Democrats' watch, we got Hannah Montana. A great difference in era, tone, and feel there, even if they were a mere 6 years apart.

(I'm half-joking ;D)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 06/01/17 at 8:49 am


Hmmm... could pop culture changing around late 2006 perhaps coincide with the Bush administration's record low popularity and the Democrats taking back Congress?

Under the Republicans' watch, we got Malcolm in the Middle. Under the Democrats' watch, we got Hannah Montana. A great difference in era, tone, and feel there, even if they were a mere 6 years apart.

(I'm half-joking ;D)


That's another strange coincidence too. Its also important to note how the economy started to go downhill around late 06'/early 07' as well.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: John Titor on 06/01/17 at 5:36 pm


That's another strange coincidence too. Its also important to note how the economy started to go downhill around late 06'/early 07' as well.


the economy went down in 06?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Tyrannosaurus Rex on 06/01/17 at 6:16 pm


https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder494/500x/59589494/sad-darth-vader-well-crap.jpg

I guess the Democrats aren't really going to get a strong candidate by the 2020 election. For anything, I really wanted somebody other than Hilary Clinton (who's basically ammo for radical feminists) to fight for the Democrats. The 2016 election is the reason why I'm currently a political independent, since everybody who supports the Democrats are either insane feminists or people who basically attack racists for no logical reason whatsoever. The Republicans are probably more sane, but they're more supported by neo-Nazis, Klansmen, and white supremacists altogether now.


You'll have some sane people in both parties.

The Republican Party, however, is supported by the alt-right and Klansmen.
The Democrat Party, however, is supported by SJWs and feminists.

Believe it or not, the alt-right and SJWs probably only make up of less than 5% of their respected parties at most. Maybe even less. Normal Republicans and Democrats don't want to be associated with either one.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Sir Rothchild on 06/01/17 at 6:21 pm


You'll have some sane people in both parties.

The Republican Party, however, is supported by the alt-right and Klansmen.
The Democrat Party, however, is supported by SJWs and feminists.

Believe it or not, the alt-right and SJWs probably only make up of less than 5% of their respected parties at most. Maybe even less. Normal Republicans and Democrats don't want to be associated with either one.


That might be true, but most of them just make the country divided where it seems like a problem now. The last thing that I wanna think about is another civil war, especially since our current president thinks that the American Civil War could've been stopped with Andrew Jackson, which is false.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Tyrannosaurus Rex on 06/01/17 at 6:25 pm


That might be true, but most of them just make the country divided where it seems like a problem now. The last thing that I wanna think about is another civil war, especially since our current president thinks that the American Civil War could've been stopped with Andrew Jackson, which is false.


That is exactly their goal - to divide the country. Additionally, both the SJWs and the alt-right are power-hungry and advocate big government. Both want the government to do everything for them.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 06/01/17 at 6:43 pm


You'll have some sane people in both parties.

The Republican Party, however, is supported by the alt-right and Klansmen.
The Democrat Party, however, is supported by SJWs and feminists.

Believe it or not, the alt-right and SJWs probably only make up of less than 5% of their respected parties at most. Maybe even less. Normal Republicans and Democrats don't want to be associated with either one.

Thank you my brother!. The truth has been spoken 8).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 06/06/17 at 4:08 am

Good news, I've finished my 2003 Nick video hunt!

Now it's down to 2000-2002.

Subject: 9

Written By: Zelek3 on 06/08/17 at 8:46 pm

Does anyone else here wish Rugrats, Rocket Power, Hey Arnold, Friday Night Nicktoons, SNICK, and the Abstract Bumpers had more new episodes/segments until like 2006, instead of ending in 2004? I think Nick in 2005-2006 would've felt less "bland" and more "flavorful" if those shows/things were kept around a little while longer.

Also, I would've had it so Cyma zarghami didn't take over Nick until 2007 instead of 2006, and Nick Studios would shut down in 2007 instead of 2005. Then the entire mid 2000s would fit neatly into the silver age of Nick, not just part of it.

In my ideal universe, new episodes of Danny Phantom and Avatar would coexist with new episodes of Rocket Power, creating a dynamic duo of early 2000s xtreme and mid 2000s action.

Subject: Re: 9

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 06/08/17 at 8:50 pm


Does anyone else here wish Rugrats, Rocket Power, Hey Arnold, Friday Night Nicktoons, SNICK, and the Abstract Bumpers had more new episodes/segments until like 2006, instead of ending in 2004? I think Nick in 2005-2006 would've felt less "bland" and more "flavorful" if those shows/things were kept around a little while longer.

Also, I would've had it so Cyma zarghami didn't take over Nick until 2007 instead of 2006, and Nick Studios would shut down in 2007 instead of 2005. Then the entire mid 2000s would fit neatly into the silver age of Nick, not just part of it.

In my ideal universe, new episodes of Danny Phantom and Avatar would coexist with new episodes of Rocket Power, creating a dynamic duo of early 2000s xtreme and mid 2000s action.

I totally agree with you. That would have been AMAZING!.

Subject: Re: 9

Written By: Sir Rothchild on 06/09/17 at 7:51 pm


Does anyone else here wish Rugrats, Rocket Power, Hey Arnold, Friday Night Nicktoons, SNICK, and the Abstract Bumpers had more new episodes/segments until like 2006, instead of ending in 2004? I think Nick in 2005-2006 would've felt less "bland" and more "flavorful" if those shows/things were kept around a little while longer.

Also, I would've had it so Cyma zarghami didn't take over Nick until 2007 instead of 2006, and Nick Studios would shut down in 2007 instead of 2005. Then the entire mid 2000s would fit neatly into the silver age of Nick, not just part of it.

In my ideal universe, new episodes of Danny Phantom and Avatar would coexist with new episodes of Rocket Power, creating a dynamic duo of early 2000s xtreme and mid 2000s action.


That would've been really cool since Nickelodeon would've been more awesome to watch during the mid 2000s. It would also have 2006 into being as cool as 2005, if those changes actually happen.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 06/09/17 at 8:07 pm


That would've been really cool since Nickelodeon would've been more awesome to watch during the mid 2000s. It would also have 2006 into being as cool as 2005, if those changes actually happen.

I agree.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 06/09/17 at 8:10 pm

Nick in 2005, and to a lesser extent 2006, wasn't really BAD, but I felt like those years(mostly late 2005 onward) lacked the flavor and color that made 2000-2004 feel interesting.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 06/12/17 at 3:08 pm

Anyone notice how whacky Nick's scheduling was during the silver age?

Hey Arnold was supposed to end in 2002, with the Journal movie. Yet they had a few episodes remaining and stretched out their airings up till 2004.

CatDog had a similar problem. It only had 8 episodes for season 4 (compared to the 20 each seasons before), and yet it took nearly 5 full years to finish airing it, finally completing in 2005. With no announcement.

All Grown Up(meh, not my favorite show) premiered its fourth and final season in October 2005, and one would expect it to logically finish up in early 2006, right? Wrong. Nick put the series on hiatus, then aired one new episode in November 2006. Then it went on hiatus again. Then they aired some new episodes in November 2007. Then it went on hiatus again again. Then they aired the final three episodes in August 2008.

Subject: Re: 9

Written By: Zelek3 on 06/13/17 at 4:12 am


I totally agree with you. That would have been AMAZING!.

Also, if it were up to me, Sonny the cocoa puffs bird would still be a cool early 2000s dude who wears clothes until 2006, and the Dell Dude would have more commercials until 2006 instead of ending in 2003. 8)

Subject: Re: 9

Written By: Sir Rothchild on 06/13/17 at 5:51 am


Also, if it were up to me, Sonny the cocoa puffs bird would still be a cool early 2000s dude who wears clothes until 2006, and the Dell Dude would have more commercials until 2006 instead of ending in 2003. 8)


Dell should've made things more cool during the mid 2000s, like having cool OEM accessories on Windows 2000/Windows XP systems. But I guess they would've been known as controversial as Packard Bell, where they put in unnecessary applications into their computers.

Subject: Re: 9

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 06/13/17 at 9:23 am


Also, if it were up to me, Sonny the cocoa puffs bird would still be a cool early 2000s dude who wears clothes until 2006, and the Dell Dude would have more commercials until 2006 instead of ending in 2003. 8)

I agree ;D ;D ;D.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mxcrashxm on 06/15/17 at 6:31 pm


Does anyone else here wish Rugrats, Rocket Power, Hey Arnold, Friday Night Nicktoons, SNICK, and the Abstract Bumpers had more new episodes/segments until like 2006, instead of ending in 2004? I think Nick in 2005-2006 would've felt less "bland" and more "flavorful" if those shows/things were kept around a little while longer.

Also, I would've had it so Cyma zarghami didn't take over Nick until 2007 instead of 2006, and Nick Studios would shut down in 2007 instead of 2005. Then the entire mid-2000s would fit neatly into the silver age of Nick, not just part of it.

In my ideal universe, new episodes of Danny Phantom and Avatar would coexist with new episodes of Rocket Power, creating a dynamic duo of early 2000s Xtreme and mid-2000s action.
Oh yeah, That would have awesome!


Anyone notice how whacky Nick's scheduling was during the silver age?

Hey Arnold was supposed to end in 2002, with the Journal movie. Yet they had a few episodes remaining and stretched out their airings up till 2004.

CatDog had a similar problem. It only had 8 episodes for season 4 (compared to the 20 each seasons before), and yet it took nearly 5 full years to finish airing it, finally completing in 2005. With no announcement.

All Grown Up(meh, not my favorite show) premiered its fourth and final season in October 2005, and one would expect it to logically finish up in early 2006, right? Wrong. Nick put the series on hiatus, then aired one new episode in November 2006. Then it went on hiatus again. Then they aired some new episodes in November 2007. Then it went on hiatus again. Then they aired the final three episodes in August 2008.
They also pulled that BS with Angry Beavers, Wild Thornberrys, Invader Zim, FOP (pre-Poof), Jimmy Neutron and Rocket Power. These shows only lasted longer due to Nick holding on to some of the last episodes.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 06/16/17 at 3:30 am

Something I've wondered: if Herb Scannell never resigned as President of Nick in 2006, would the silver age have lasted longer? Or would it still have ended not too soon after?

http://i.imgur.com/nA7T0xp.jpg

Nick in mid-late 2005 already did seem to be heading in the blander, teenybopper direction that it would further pursue in 2006, despite Cyma Zarghami not being in the hot seat yet. Herb also closed Nick Studios in 2005 because he hated Flordia, which was arguably one of his poorest decisions.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 06/16/17 at 4:30 pm

Does anyone here have, or possibly know of, DVD/VHS recordings of Nick from between January 1-4, 2006? Before Cyma took over?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Sir Rothchild on 06/16/17 at 6:20 pm


Does anyone here have, or possibly know of, DVD/VHS recordings of Nick from between January 1-4, 2006? Before Cyma took over?


I wish I had any recording of any kids network from 2006 on DVD. The only DVD recordings that I knew from 2006 were my dad recording Season 6A of The Sopranos. He recorded them so that he could give them to his co-worker, since my family had HBO.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 06/23/17 at 7:27 am


Honestly the theme song is pretty good! However as a kid I always found the show a tad bit boring I guess. I'd have to give it another watch though so I could get a balanced judgement.

I believe As Told by Ginger would have been more successful with the boy audience if the girls looked cute and not hideous. The show already had character development, story arcs, surprisingly mature themes, an autumnal feel, even some humor (Carl and Hoodsie), etc. which won it some acclaim, but it would've had even more acclaim with boys if it had cute and not hideous-looking girls, I think.

Here's a hypothetical picture someone else made
http://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/co/tmp/cache/1477076870313.jpg

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 06/23/17 at 11:15 am


I believe As Told by Ginger would have been more successful with the boy audience if the girls looked cute and not hideous. The show already had character development, story arcs, surprisingly mature themes, an autumnal feel, even some humor (Carl and Hoodsie), etc. which won it some acclaim, but it would've had even more acclaim with boys if it had cute and not hideous-looking girls, I think.

Here's a hypothetical picture someone else made
http://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/co/tmp/cache/1477076870313.jpg

LOL, you know what.....you're right.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 06/23/17 at 12:47 pm

As Told By Ginger was just about the last Nick show that I watched regularly before I stopped watching the channel around 2001. Honestly, I always liked it, whether boys were the intended target audience or not.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 06/23/17 at 12:48 pm


As Told By Ginger was just about the last Nick show that I watched regularly before I stopped watching the channel around 2001. Honestly, I always liked it, whether boys were the intended target audience or not.

That's perfectly fine that you watched. I watched a little bit of it but the art style turned me off from watching more of it.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 08/16/17 at 5:03 am

Just want you guys to know I'm still working on the video compilation. My personal life has gotten in the way somewhat but I'm still pushing for the video to be finished.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/24/19 at 3:38 am

Okay y'all, I never forgot about this, BUT I never finished it because I had concerns about getting copyright striked when I uploaded the videos.

Still, I'm doing a binge-watch of Silver age nick on Youtube. If you wanna do it yourself, type in " nickelodeon" and then click "Filter" then "Sort by - View count", and scroll your way down and watch all the videos till you reach the bottom. :)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: GuapitoChico on 04/29/19 at 10:25 am


Okay y'all, I never forgot about this, BUT I never finished it because I had concerns about getting copyright striked when I uploaded the videos.

Still, I'm doing a binge-watch of Silver age nick on Youtube. If you wanna do it yourself, type in " nickelodeon" and then click "Filter" then "Sort by - View count", and scroll your way down and watch all the videos till you reach the bottom. :)


Silver Age Nick in a nutshell (2002 bumper):
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Idk, for some reason, I have a really soft spot for 2002-2004 (and 2001-2005 by extension). Idk if it’s rose-colored glasses or actual quality of cartoons, but I find myself feeling fonder nostalgia for the first half of my childhood.  :-\

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: annimal on 04/29/19 at 10:41 am

where's the slime and the locker room?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/29/19 at 11:59 pm


Yet nowadays, I see people referring to early 00s Nick as the "good ol' days" (not just on this forum, but other places too). I wonder if, in the distant future, kids who are watching Nick now will look upon the 2010s as the "good ol' days", "back when Nick was good". :P

Welp, my predictions from 2 years ago came true in the end. I'm Nostradamus, bow to me.

Now in this video you have Zoomers reminiscing on the Late 00s-Early 10s era of Nick (iCarly, Big Time Rush, Victorious). When I distinctly remember that era was widely ranted on and considered the "Era where everything went to sh*t" years ago, lol.

BPExj-3kaAc

And NickRewind (formerly The Splat) is now putting those Late 00s-Early 10s shows on their block, which older fans have complained about on their Facebook page, lol.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: GuapitoChico on 04/30/19 at 3:29 am


Welp, my predictions from 2 years ago came true in the end. I'm Nostradamus, bow to me.

Now in this video you have Zoomers reminiscing on the Late 00s-Early 10s era of Nick (iCarly, Big Time Rush, Victorious). When I distinctly remember that era was widely ranted on and considered the "Era where everything went to sh*t" years ago, lol.

BPExj-3kaAc

And NickRewind (formerly The Splat) is now putting those Late 00s-Early 10s shows on their block, which older fans have complained about on their Facebook page, lol.


The thing about tail-end Millennials/headstart Zoomers is that they enjoyed Nick in both halves of the 00s. So both late 90s/early 00s and late 00s/early 10s blocks are equally nostalgic for us.

For me personally, the late 00s saw a decline, but it wasn’t abysmal. I mean Chalkzone, Drake and Josh, & MLAATR were still around. Avatar and Wayside were the last animated Nick shows I enjoyed (around 2005-2008), though.

As for the 2010s, most headstart Zoomers would prefer the live action shows than the animated ones. Trust me when I say that almost no headstart Zoomer wants to associate with Fanboy and ChumChum; they would’ve felt too old for it lol.  ;D

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: shadowcookie on 04/30/19 at 2:30 pm


The thing about tail-end Millennials/headstart Zoomers is that they enjoyed Nick in both halves of the 00s. So both late 90s/early 00s and late 00s/early 10s blocks are equally nostalgic for us.

For me personally, the late 00s saw a decline, but it wasn’t abysmal. I mean Chalkzone, Drake and Josh, & MLAATR were still around. Avatar and Wayside were the last animated Nick shows I enjoyed (around 2005-2008), though.

As for the 2010s, most headstart Zoomers would prefer the live action shows than the animated ones. Trust me when I say that almost no headstart Zoomer wants to associate with Fanboy and ChumChum; they would’ve felt too old for it lol.  ;D

Eh, I was born in ‘95 and nothing from late 00s Nick is nostalgic for me, let alone the early 2010s. I couldn’t even tell you what was on Nick in 2010. I saw iCarly a few times but was never into it.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 04/30/19 at 11:09 pm


Eh, I was born in ‘95 and nothing from late 00s Nick is nostalgic for me, let alone the early 2010s. I couldn’t even tell you what was on Nick in 2010. I saw iCarly a few times but was never into it.


Ditto on that. For me Nick's last solid year was 2005. 2008-2009 was when the channel died for me.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mwalker1996 on 05/01/19 at 12:22 am


Ditto on that. For me Nick's last solid year was 2005. 2008-2009 was when the channel died for me.
Besides Icarly, Just Jordan and Zoey 101 and the last season of Avatar Nick was pretty much meh for me in the late 00s. 2008/09 school was the last year where I watched it on a regular basis. From 2008 onward it was just spongebob all day and Nick has been stagnant ever since at least to me. I know a lot of people age stop watching in the late 00s.  Even 2006 had a much better lineup from 2009.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 05/01/19 at 9:01 am


Eh, I was born in ‘95 and nothing from late 00s Nick is nostalgic for me, let alone the early 2010s. I couldn’t even tell you what was on Nick in 2010. I saw iCarly a few times but was never into it.


I feel that way about pretty much all of my favorite childhood kid stations. Cartoon Network and Toon Disney also weren't the same in the late 00's compared to the earlier 00's. Disney Channel was always a mixed bag but the pre-2006 years were definitely better with more variety and diversity than the post-2006 years IMO.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 05/01/19 at 9:12 am


Besides Icarly, Just Jordan and Zoey 101 and the last season of Avatar Nick was pretty much meh for me in the late 00s. 2008/09 school was the last year where I watched it on a regular basis. From 2008 onward it was just spongebob all day and Nick has been stagnant ever since at least to me. I know a lot of people age stop watching in the late 00s.  Even 2006 had a much better lineup from 2009.


I agree, my biggest issue with Nickelodeon in the mid to late 00's was the way they started treating their nicktoons. Once all the late 90's nicktoons ended throughout 2004, the nicktoons started becoming inconsistent. The live-action stuff were still good from Drake & Josh to Zoey 101 and iCarly, but the nicktoons took a major hit. If it wasn't for Avatar: The Last Airbender from 2005-2008, all the good nicktoons created throughout the 2nd half of the 00's got cancelled after 1 season such as Catscratch and El Tigre, and bad nicktoons and Dreamwork/video game spin-off's like Fanboy & Chum Chum, Tuff Puppy, Penguins of Madagascar, Back In the Barnyard, or Wayside stayed on the air longer from what I remember. Shows like Spongebob Squarepants and Fairly Odd Parents were past its prime and were spammed way too much on the network because of this. Thankfully there was still Danny Phantom, My Life As a Teenage Robot, and All Grown Up for awhile, but those were over before some of the shows I mentioned aired. Nickelodeon was dead to me by 2009 (or after Avatar ended) but the live-action sitcoms still held up through iCarly and even Victorious (which I didn't watch btw), but after Sam & Cat the live-action shows have been cartoony trash. I only knew this because of my sister 12 years younger than me.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/01/19 at 12:58 pm

I was born in 1999 and even I felt that Disney Channel, Nickelodeon & Cartoon Network fell off in 2008-2009.

I still watched them but much less than in the mid 2000s. By 2010/2011, I stopped watching them regularly and only very occasionally watched them.

Nowadays, I don't watch them at all and it's been that way since 2012 or so.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/01/19 at 1:24 pm


Besides Icarly, Just Jordan and Zoey 101 and the last season of Avatar Nick was pretty much meh for me in the late 00s. 2008/09 school was the last year where I watched it on a regular basis. From 2008 onward it was just spongebob all day and Nick has been stagnant ever since at least to me. I know a lot of people age stop watching in the late 00s.  Even 2006 had a much better lineup from 2009.


2007-2008 was the last school year that I watched Nickelodeon on a consistent basis. And honestly, that was really only because of Avatar being in its las season, its live action shows at the time (Drake & Josh, Zoey 101, Ned's Declassified, etc.), and Spongebob reruns. In fact, 2007-2008 saw the end of Avatar, Danny Phantom, My Life as a Teenaged Robot, Zoey 1010, Drake & Josh, Ned's Declassified, among many other shows. 2005 was the last good year for the network, but 2008 was the last time Nick was given an ounce of a damn for me. By 2009, even well before the channel officially changed its logo in Late 2009, the channel was already dead to me.

Long live the Silver Age; 2000-2004/5 :\'(.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mwalker1996 on 05/01/19 at 11:09 pm


I agree, my biggest issue with Nickelodeon in the mid to late 00's was the way they started treating their nicktoons. Once all the late 90's nicktoons ended throughout 2004, the nicktoons started becoming inconsistent. The live-action stuff were still good from Drake & Josh to Zoey 101 and iCarly, but the nicktoons took a major hit. If it wasn't for Avatar: The Last Airbender from 2005-2008, all the good nicktoons created throughout the 2nd half of the 00's got cancelled after 1 season such as Catscratch and El Tigre, and bad nicktoons and Dreamwork/video game spin-off's like Fanboy & Chum Chum, Tuff Puppy, Penguins of Madagascar, Back In the Barnyard, or Wayside stayed on the air longer from what I remember. Shows like Spongebob Squarepants and Fairly Odd Parents were past its prime and were spammed way too much on the network because of this. Thankfully there was still Danny Phantom, My Life As a Teenage Robot, and All Grown Up for awhile, but those were over before some of the shows I mentioned aired. Nickelodeon was dead to me by 2009 (or after Avatar ended) but the live-action sitcoms still held up through iCarly and even Victorious (which I didn't watch btw), but after Sam & Cat the live-action shows have been cartoony trash. I only knew this because of my sister 12 years younger than me.
Yeah right at for the older millennials on here at least acknowledge the shows that came out in our childhoods even if they were past the target age demographic. I know tons of late 80s borns that enjoyed Drake and Josh even if they were the same age as the actors. It's hard for anyone our age to enjoy the more recent Nick shows like Henry Danger, and the Thundermans because they're just too cheesy and weird. The only saving grace for nick seems to be Loud House but I hear even that show isn't doing as well as it was in 2016-17.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mwalker1996 on 05/01/19 at 11:25 pm


2007-2008 was the last school year that I watched Nickelodeon on a consistent basis. And honestly, that was really only because of Avatar being in its las season, its live action shows at the time (Drake & Josh, Zoey 101, Ned's Declassified, etc.), and Spongebob reruns. In fact, 2007-2008 saw the end of Avatar, Danny Phantom, My Life as a Teenaged Robot, Zoey 1010, Drake & Josh, Ned's Declassified, among many other shows. 2005 was the last good year for the network, but 2008 was the last time Nick was given an ounce of a damn for me. By 2009, even well before the channel officially changed its logo in Late 2009, the channel was already dead to me.

Long live the Silver Age; 2000-2004/5 :\'(.
Yea you had plenty of good reasons to stop watching then. I was so mad they ended Just Jordan in 2008. I was like that show could've lasted much longer especially when the Romeo show had a 3 year run on Nick. Zoey 101 ending was kinda odd but given the circumstances of Jamie Lynn Spears it had to be done (couldn't have a teen mom on a kids show).  ICarly was enjoyable tho. The early seasons were pretty solid and felt like Drake and Josh to a degree but just less malicious and more girly. Avatar was still pretty dope and ended on a strong note. Sponge Bob was just meh at this point and Fairly odd Parents while still good didn't feel the same when they added poof. Mighty B was alright but never got into it. 2009 definitely was when Nick just felt dead with Pengunis of Madagascar, Spongebob, Big Time Rush, etc.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/01/19 at 11:28 pm

Like I said before, even though y'all may think Nick fell off by 2008-09, all the teens in that video I linked loved growing up with 2008-2012 era Nick, so really it's all just a matter of what you grew up with.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 05/02/19 at 3:56 am


2007-2008 was the last school year that I watched Nickelodeon on a consistent basis. And honestly, that was really only because of Avatar being in its las season, its live action shows at the time (Drake & Josh, Zoey 101, Ned's Declassified, etc.), and Spongebob reruns. In fact, 2007-2008 saw the end of Avatar, Danny Phantom, My Life as a Teenaged Robot, Zoey 1010, Drake & Josh, Ned's Declassified, among many other shows. 2005 was the last good year for the network, but 2008 was the last time Nick was given an ounce of a damn for me. By 2009, even well before the channel officially changed its logo in Late 2009, the channel was already dead to me.

Long live the Silver Age; 2000-2004/5 :\'(.


When Nickelodeon's logo changed in 2009 (I don't remember which month), it wasn't just the Nickelodeon station itself, but it was all the sister networks as well. Noggin changed to a separate Nick Jr channel with the new logo although Noggin had fell off for me long before that when Feet Face left. The N became a separate Teen Nick channel, and Nicktoons Network became Nicktoons with the new logo but once again I preferred the Nicktoons channel when it was Nicktoons with the splat between 2003 and 2005.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 05/02/19 at 4:01 am


Like I said before, even though y'all may think Nick fell off by 2008-09, all the teens in that video I linked loved growing up with 2008-2012 era Nick, so really it's all just a matter of what you grew up with.


True, but many of us have pointed out that even before 2008-09, there were already tons of inconsistencies. Like even with the sister stations as I already mentioned, for example, a lot of people have hated Nicktoons since the logo changed and Nicktoons Network ended, but I disagree, I actually think Nicktoons started to suck when it became Nicktoons Network in late 2005, and preferred it when it was a commercial free station with 24/7 real Nicktoons and reruns of some syndicated animated shows. Nick GAS, the station for all the game shows ending after 2007 was already a sign that Nick was going down the drain, and by then there were less game shows or slime shows anyway. I wish I had appreciated iCarly more when it was on the air, but it sucks that the majority of the time iCarly was on Nick the rest of Nick's programming had sucked for me.  :-\\

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mwalker1996 on 05/02/19 at 7:24 am


True, but many of us have pointed out that even before 2008-09, there were already tons of inconsistencies. Like even with the sister stations as I already mentioned, for example, a lot of people have hated Nicktoons since the logo changed and Nicktoons Network ended, but I disagree, I actually think Nicktoons started to suck when it became Nicktoons Network in late 2005, and preferred it when it was a commercial free station with 24/7 real Nicktoons and reruns of some syndicated animated shows. Nick GAS, the station for all the game shows ending after 2007 was already a sign that Nick was going down the drain, and by then there were less game shows or slime shows anyway. I wish I had appreciated iCarly more when it was on the air, but it sucks that the majority of the time iCarly was on Nick the rest of Nick's programming had sucked for me.  :-\\
I never watched Nicktoons until 2006 and the shows on there seem pretty decent. I know happy mikey was a pretty big deal on that network and you had a ton of classic nicktoons from the 90s that would come on regularly. As someone who was pretty late to Cable it was cool seeing the shows that I missed out on the channel while the were in their prime. The only time I got to watch Nick prior to 2006 was going to my aunt house so it was pretty cool watching the shows that I have not have watched or paid much attention to on nicktoons.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 05/02/19 at 9:07 am


I never watched Nicktoons until 2006 and the shows on there seem pretty decent. I know happy mikey was a pretty big deal on that network and you had a ton of classic nicktoons from the 90s that would come on regularly. As someone who was pretty late to Cable it was cool seeing the shows that I missed out on the channel while the were in their prime. The only time I got to watch Nick prior to 2006 was going to my aunt house so it was pretty cool watching the shows that I have not have watched or paid much attention to on nicktoons.


While I preferred Nicktoons Network over Nicktoons 2009-present, it still wasn't as good as Nicktoons between 2003-2005 IMO. During the Nicktoons Network era the network started having more of its own original programming mixed with modern shows at the time and there were barely any classics played from what I remember, or either some of the classics were shoved to late nights/early mornings or weekdays while kids were in school. Nicktoons Network between 2005-2009 reminds me of the Jetix era of Toon Disney between 2005-2009 when the network started having its own programming and hardly any classics on the air. A lot of similarities. However, I'd take the Jetix shows any day over the Nicktoons Network shows.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: GuapitoChico on 05/02/19 at 4:45 pm

I think it might have something to do with the over-milking of Spongebob far past its prime, though. It’s possible that a lot of good Nicktoons that had potential were swept under the rug in favor of Spongebob.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/02/19 at 7:43 pm

3 YEARS LATER

And this analysis still rings true. If anything, the state of the channel seems much more dire than it was 3 years ago, and that's saying something. Especially since the untimely passing of Stephen Hillenburg, killing any momentum the newer episodes of Spongebob, supposedly having the same creativity & originality of the first three-four seasons, that could've been used to define a new generation.


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As of now, what does Nickelodeon even have? Heck, even The Loud House isn't really generating buzz anymore. Theres a quote that Saberspark mentions in the video and I think it's the essence of Nickelodeon's downfall since the mid-late 2000s (forgive me cause I don't remember the particular time stamp);

"I mentioned to you before on how Nick became more corporate, well that ties into Spongebob"

And low and behold;

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https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/may/02/spongebob-20th-anniversary-memes-fandom

The show is now 20 years old.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/05/19 at 1:01 pm


Like I said before, even though y'all may think Nick fell off by 2008-09, all the teens in that video I linked loved growing up with 2008-2012 era Nick, so really it's all just a matter of what you grew up with.


You're right Zelek, its already starting to happen now even on YouTube;

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Just scroll through the comments, and you'll feel like an old man.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 05/06/19 at 7:36 pm

^ It's that way with all types of entertainment related to nostalgia. When you see teens being nostalgic for CN during the late 00's Noods or CN Real era, or you see teens who miss Disney XD during its earlier years rather than now. This makes you feel a lot older.

I'll use CN as an example, as always I'll believe that the network started to suck in late 2006 or 2007, however, I still believe the golden age will always be mid 2004 & earlier while the silver age is late 2004-2006. I don't believe 2005 and 2006 were part of CN's golden age like some people around our age or younger do. Same goes for Toon Disney. Jetix was the silver age, but it wasn't the golden age. The golden age is when there were Disney Afternoon & One Saturday Morning shows 24/7 like the network was originally launched for from day one in 1998, and that was over with by late 2004 or early 2005.

Now when I think about it at age 23 with a more mature mind, I don't think CN ever died (except for the 2009/CN Real era), and Disney XD has been alive and well for the new generation since Toon Disney/Jetix ended. I will say this, in general, I believe it's broadcast television that is dying and it's not the TV networks' faults, and once you have Netflix, DC Universe, and Disney Plus at the same time, there's no need for TV networks to have a lot of variety on the schedules when you have streaming services plus On Demand.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/06/19 at 7:51 pm


^ It's that way with all types of entertainment related to nostalgia. When you see teens being nostalgic for CN during the late 00's Noods or CN Real era, or you see teens who miss Disney XD during its earlier years rather than now. This makes you feel a lot older.

I'll use CN as an example, as always I'll believe that the network started to suck in late 2006 or 2007, however, I still believe the golden age will always be mid 2004 & earlier while the silver age is late 2004-2006. I don't believe 2005 and 2006 were part of CN's golden age like some people around our age or younger do. Same goes for Toon Disney. Jetix was the silver age, but it wasn't the golden age. The golden age is when there were Disney Afternoon & One Saturday Morning shows 24/7 like the network was originally launched for from day one in 1998, and that was over with by late 2004 or early 2005.


Just goes to show how fast time is moving. 10 years ago, we 90s babies, whom were teens at the time, were just becoming nostalgic of our childhoods in the late 90s/early 00s. I remember that even by Late 2008/Early 2009, me and my cousin, who is two years older, used to get nostalgic talking about the 'good ole days' of watching Late 90s Nick Jr. shows like Franklin and Little Bear. Toonami shows like Dragon Ball Z and Yu Yu Hakusho. SNICK shows like Kenan & Kel and All That. I can go on and on.

Its crazy to think that there are kids 10 years my junior that are now at a similar age that me and my cousin were 10 years ago, now starting to get nostalgic over stuff from the late 2000s. Like a hypothetical 04' & 06' kid getting nostalgic over Wizards of Waverly Place, or the CN Real era of Cartoon Network.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/06/19 at 7:59 pm

Now when I think about it at age 23 with a more mature mind, I don't think CN ever died (except for the 2009/CN Real era), and Disney XD has been alive and well for the new generation since Toon Disney/Jetix ended. I will say this, in general, I believe it's broadcast television that is dying and it's not the TV networks' faults, and once you have Netflix, DC Universe, and Disney Plus at the same time, there's no need for TV networks to have a lot of variety on the schedules when you have streaming services plus On Demand.

While that is true, I do think that there are ways these companies can still be innovative. Also, on the point highligted in bold, with many of these same companies like Walt Disney and Warner Bros. now concentrating their intellectual properties to their own streaming services, its going to create an adverse effect of making people less enticed to sign up for these same services. Especially since there are annual rate hikes for a lot of these services, but the quantity (and arguably, even the quality) of the content continues to go down. All of the Disney stuff will stay exclusively on Disney Plus. All of the DC stuff will eventually stay exclusively on some sort of Warner Bros. streaming services (AT&T GO.... maybe? just a thought). Amazon stuff will stay exclusively on Amazon, etc etc.

Theres actually an interesting video discussing this weird paradox going on right, and is what is expected to only accelerate in the next decade:


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The continued lack of diversity on a lot of these platforms may ironically lead people back into cable subscriptions.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/06/19 at 8:16 pm


Just goes to show how fast time is moving. 10 years ago, we 90s babies, whom were teens at the time, were just becoming nostalgic of our childhoods in the late 90s/early 00s. I remember that even by Late 2008/Early 2009, me and my cousin, who is two years older, used to get nostalgic talking about the 'good ole days' of watching Late 90s Nick Jr. shows like Franklin and Little Bear. Toonami shows like Dragon Ball Z and Yu Yu Hakusho. SNICK shows like Kenan & Kel and All That. I can go on and on.

Its crazy to think that there are kids 10 years my junior that are now at a similar age that me and my cousin were 10 years ago, now starting to get nostalgic over stuff from the late 2000s. Like a hypothetical 04' & 06' kid getting nostalgic over Wizards of Waverly Place, or the CN Real era of Cartoon Network.

Yeah you're right. Like, I distinctly remember back years ago, Youtube was full of rants from Millennials about how the late 00s-early 10s stuff was the "downfall into sh*t era" and the 90s were better, and they were like "Oh god, can you imagine years from now, people being nostalgic for iCarly and johnny test? Ugh such cancer", lol. Benthelooney was the guy who did this most.

Now, several years later, most Millennials left Youtube or outgrew it, and were replaced by Zoomers who are now posting childhood nostalgia for the once-hated late 00s-early 10s, and rehabilitated that era's reputation, lol.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 05/06/19 at 8:54 pm


While that is true, I do think that there are ways these companies can still be innovative. Also, on the point highligted in bold, with many of these same companies like Walt Disney and Warner Bros. now concentrating their intellectual properties to their own streaming services, its going to create an adverse effect of making people less enticed to sign up for these same services. Especially since there are annual rate hikes for a lot of these services, but the quantity (and arguably, even the quality) of the content continues to go down. All of the Disney stuff will stay exclusively on Disney Plus. All of the DC stuff will eventually stay exclusively on some sort of Warner Bros. streaming services (AT&T GO.... maybe? just a thought). Amazon stuff will stay exclusively on Amazon, etc etc.

Theres actually an interesting video discussing this weird paradox going on right, and is what is expected to only accelerate in the next decade:


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The continued lack of diversity on a lot of these platforms may ironically lead people back into cable subscriptions.


Thanks for sharing this video with me. Interesting points there, and it started with the DC Universe streaming service and a lot of DC shows and movies were taken off Netflix such as Justice League, Justice League Unlimited, and Young Justice. I'm happy to have enjoyed Netflix since 2014 when there was all kinds of content and not just its original programming. It's amazing how Netflix is going to mostly only have its original content now whereas before then Netflix mostly had content from different companies. This reminds me, with many cable stations that started in the 90's or earlier, it started off as a station with syndicated shows then started coming up with original programming and eventually the network only played its original shows.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: floppy on 05/15/19 at 11:56 am

2 of the shows here Rocko's Modern Life and Invader Zim will both be getting movies this summer on Netflix! I'm very exited as I have been following this for a very long time.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 05/27/19 at 8:41 pm

Nickelodeon Sept. 2003 Schedule: Wow! What a diverse schedule back then, and I was in 2nd grade then! The most shocking part of the schedule is how Tiny Toons, Ahh Real Monsters, Angry Beavers, Kenan & Kel, The Amanda Show, and Cousin Skeeter were still on during the weekends when we were out of school!  :o

Sept. 2-28:

Weekdays
6:00AM Cable in the Classroom (Nick News, Doug and Inside TV Land)
6:30AM The Wild Thornberrys
7:00AM Hey Arnold!
7:30AM Rocket Power
8:00AM Rugrats
8:30AM SpongeBob SquarePants
9:00AM Max & Ruby
9:30AM Rubbadubbers
10:00AM Dora the Explorer
10:30AM Blue's Clues
11:00AM Dora the Explorer
11:30AM Tweenies
12:00PM Oswald
12:30PM Little Bill
1:00PM Maggie and the Ferocious Beast
1:30PM Bob the Builder
2:00PM Tiny Toon Adventures
2:30PM The Wild Thornberrys
3:00PM Rugrats
3:30PM CatDog
4:00PM Hey Arnold!
4:30PM Rocket Power
5:00PM U-Pick Nicktoons
5:30PM SpongeBob SquarePants
6:00PM U-Pick Nicktoons
6:30PM Hey Arnold!
7:00PM Rugrats
7:30PM SpongeBob SquarePants
8:00PM The Fairly OddParents
8:30PM The Amanda Show (Mon-Thurs); My Life as a Teenage Robot (Fri)
9:00PM NICK@NITE (Mon-Thurs); The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius (Fri)
9:30PM NICK@NITE cont. (Mon-Thurs); ChalkZone (Fri)

Weekends:
6:00AM Tiny Toon Adventures
6:30AM Tiny Toon Adventures
7:00AM CatDog
7:30AM CatDog
8:00AM Rugrats
8:30AM Rugrats (Sat); ChalkZone (Sun)
9:00AM SpongeBob SquarePants
9:30AM SpongeBob SquarePants
10:00AM The Fairly OddParents
10:30AM The Fairly OddParents
11:00AM The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius
11:30AM The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius
12:00PM My Life as a Teenage Robot (Sat); Hey Arnold! (Sun)
12:30PM ChalkZone (Sat); Hey Arnold! (Sun)
1:00PM Hey Arnold! (Sat); The Wild Thornberrys (Sun)
1:30PM Hey Arnold! (Sat); The Wild Thornberrys (Sun)
2:00PM Rugrats (Sat); CatDog (Sun)
2:30PM Rugrats (Sat); Aaahh!!! Real Monsters (Sun)
3:00PM Rocket Power (Sat); The Angry Beavers (Sun)
3:30PM Rocket Power (Sat); Rocko's Modern Life (Sun)
4:00PM The Fairly OddParents (Sat); Rocket Power (Sun)
4:30PM The Fairly OddParents (Sat); Rocket Power (Sun)
5:00PM SpongeBob SquarePants (Sat); The Fairly OddParents (Sun)
5:30PM SpongeBob SquarePants (Sat); The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius (Sun)
6:00PM As Told by Ginger (Sat); Kenan & Kel (Sun)
6:30PM ChalkZone (Sat); As Told by Ginger (Sun)
7:00PM The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius (Sat); My Life as a Teenage Robot (Sun)
7:30PM The Fairly OddParents (Sat); Romeo! (Sun)
8:00PM All That (Sat); The Brothers Garcia (Sun)
8:30PM Romeo! (Sat); Nick News (Sun) *SABRINA, THE TEENAGE WITCH (Sun, effect. 9/28)
9:00PM The Amanda Show (Sat); NICK@NITE (Sun)
9:30PM Cousin Skeeter (Sat); NICK@NITE cont. (Sun)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/29/19 at 9:02 am

DOPE schedule @mqg 8).

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This is from that same era. Do you happen to remember the Holiday/Seasonal specials when you was a kid? For instance, this was during Nicksgiving, and there were even promos of Merry Nickmas coming up. I remember both of these pretty vividly, especially from this year in particular. I'd do anything to just go back to the simple times of 2nd grade when I was a kid, they were so carefree.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/29/19 at 9:45 am

Also, this commercial break is officially 18 years old:


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Its now officially old enough to vote, go to a club, get charged as an adult, and yes, fight in combat (the same fight we've been involved in since around the time this commercial break was born.... if that makes any sense ;D).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/29/19 at 9:51 am

Btw @Zelek and others, I saw this comment made by the username 'Nickelodeon Fanatic2008 on Saberspark's video;

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Here the comment reads;

1991-1994 the beginning
1994-2004 the golden age
2004-2007 the silver age
2007-2012 the dark age
2012-2014 the Renaissance
2014- present the decline

Nickelodeon really doesn't have a strategy right now. I'm sorry to say this but they're in a pit right now. They need to stop with the horrible sitcoms as Vailskibum 94 said. If they don't fix what they're doing right now, they're going to lose out on a big opportunity. Sorry to say mehn.


Do you guys happen to agree with this assessment? It seems to be a slightly different take on the rise and fall (and apparent renaissance/second fall) of the network.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 05/29/19 at 7:35 pm


DOPE schedule @mqg 8).

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This is from that same era. Do you happen to remember the Holiday/Seasonal specials when you was a kid? For instance, this was during Nicksgiving, and there were even promos of Merry Nickmas coming up. I remember both of these pretty vividly, especially from this year in particular. I'd do anything to just go back to the simple times of 2nd grade when I was a kid, they were so carefree.


Like I said before, my best memories of early 00's Nickelodeon are the summer beach house events of 2002 and 2003. I feel like I didn't watch Nick enough as I did CN and Disney (both networks) but I still remember a lot of the early 00's and mid 00's Nick equally.

One thing that just came to my mind, and it's really sad. Every kid who's in K-12 right now (or upcoming) only knows Nickelodeon as Spongebob being the face of the network. To this very day here in 2019, Spongebob still remains as the face of Nick and will continue to be for the following generation of kids unless a major surprise happens. You'd think Loud House would do it, and as big as that was, Spongebob still couldn't be stopped.

I feel like you, I, and folks around our age were the last generation to remember Nickelodeon when Rugrats were still the face of the network and there was a lot of variety of other nicktoons on the air. Even though Spongebob came out in 1999, between 1999-2004 it was treated equally as any other nicktoon. You had Spongebob airing as equally as Hey Arnold, Rugrats, Invader Zim, ChalkZone, My Life As A Teenage Robot, CatDog, Rocket Power, Jimmy Neutron, Fairly Odd Parents, Danny Phantom, and so forth. Hell, you even had Pinky & The Brain, Animaniacs, and Tiny Toons reruns on Nick which I barely remember. The slime shows and U-Pick live anyone?

Once the Spongebob movie came out in November 2004 and made a big hit in theaters, that's when Spongebob truly became the face of Nickelodeon and started being played a lot like it is today, and I believe that hurt future nicktoons with tons of potential like Catscratch and El Tigre down the road. Avatar: The Last Airbender was very fortunate. Funny thing is. Rugrats may have been the face of Nickelodeon pre-2004 while Spongebob was the face of Nickelodeon post-2004, and while I liked those shows, those were never my favorite. My favorite nicktoon from 2004 & earlier was Hey Arnold, and my favorite nicktoon from 2005 & later was Avatar: The Last Airbender.

My favorite era for the sitcoms on Nick will always be the mid 00's though, because of Drake & Josh, Zoey 101, Unfabulous, Ned's Declassified, and Romeo. Even iCarly from 2007 was good even tho most of its airing time happened when Nick was dead to me. I didn't care for the early 00's sitcoms accept for Kenan & Kel reruns and The Amanda Show on some occasions. I heard that the All That revival was terrible, but I hardly remember any of that.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: SeaCaptainMan97 on 05/29/19 at 8:16 pm


Btw @Zelek and others, I saw this comment made by the username 'Nickelodeon Fanatic2008 on Saberspark's video;

r-seeo7gJF0

Here the comment reads;

Do you guys happen to agree with this assessment? It seems to be a slightly different take on the rise and fall (and apparent renaissance/second fall) of the network.


1979-1991 = Vintage Era
1991-1998 = Golden Era
1998-2004 = Klaspy Csupo Era
2004-2009 = TeenNick Era
2009-2016 = Dark Era
2016+ = Nostalgic Era

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/29/19 at 8:20 pm


1979-1991 = Vintage Era
1991-1998 = Golden Era
1998-2004 = Klaspy Csupo Era
2004-2009 = TeenNick Era
2009-2016 = Dark Era
2016+ = Nostalgic Era

That's a pretty good division. Although I'd argue the Silver age (as I call it) ended in April 2005, when Nick Studios was closed down, but 2004 works too.

Funny thing is that Avatar, usually considered Nick's last great hurrah by many, premiered in February 2005, and was the LAST Nick show to premiere right before Nick Studios closed. It really makes you wonder, did the closure of Nick Studios arguably destroy Nick's ability to make a great cartoon or something? ;)

Here's how I think of it now (slightly different from your divisions).

1979-1991 = Vintage Era
1991-1998 = Golden Era
1998-2005 = Silver Era
2005-2009 = Bronze Era
2009-2016 = Dark Era
2016+ = Nostalgic Era

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: annimal on 05/29/19 at 8:42 pm

what happened to the slime?  slimes away  on the only network fork for kids

you want disgusting  I'll show you disgusting

then it turned into vomit cute Power Puff Girls


Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/30/19 at 10:18 am


Btw @Zelek and others, I saw this comment made by the username 'Nickelodeon Fanatic2008 on Saberspark's video;

r-seeo7gJF0

Here the comment reads;

Do you guys happen to agree with this assessment? It seems to be a slightly different take on the rise and fall (and apparent renaissance/second fall) of the network.

I think most people would start the silver age in 1998 instead because that's when Dil was added to Rugrats and Catdog (first "post-golden age" Nicktoon according to fans at the time) premiered.

From what I've read over the years, it seems like Nick's silver age (1998-2005) was a transition between the more "indie" golden age (1991-1998) and the more "corporate"/teenybopper bronze age (2005-2009).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: annimal on 05/30/19 at 11:13 am

and they lost their slime, Nick didn't have anything they were a part of.  They only had cartoons with random tap dancers and stuff between the cartoons.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/30/19 at 11:55 am


Like I said before, my best memories of early 00's Nickelodeon are the summer beach house events of 2002 and 2003. I feel like I didn't watch Nick enough as I did CN and Disney (both networks) but I still remember a lot of the early 00's and mid 00's Nick equally.


Hell yeah I remember the Summer Beach House :D :D :D

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Also, this one comment from the video;

Make
Nickelodeon
Great
Again


;D

One thing that just came to my mind, and it's really sad. Every kid who's in K-12 right now (or upcoming) only knows Nickelodeon as Spongebob being the face of the network. To this very day here in 2019, Spongebob still remains as the face of Nick and will continue to be for the following generation of kids unless a major surprise happens. You'd think Loud House would do it, and as big as that was, Spongebob still couldn't be stopped.



Yeah thats a good point. In fact, it may have already been like that for a few years now. In particular to just K-5, its definitely has been like that for well over a decade at this point. It seemed like after 2005/2006 was when the variety in Nicktoons began to dwindle in favor of more Spongebob reruns. This started around the time Cyma Zarghami took over Herb Scannel, who himself made some questionable decisions but overall was still a good president for the brand. In fact, Herb Scannel's tenure at Nickelodeon from 1996-2006 reminds me a lot of Jim Staples tenure at Cartoon Network from 2001-2007. Not sure whether or not you agree.


My favorite nicktoon from 2004 & earlier was Hey Arnold, and my favorite nicktoon from 2005 & later was Avatar: The Last Airbender.

FACTS.

In fact, two of my favorite Nicktoons of all time happen to be Avatar and Hey Arnold. Whether one or the other is my all time favorite varies based on my mood. But these toons both impacted very much as a kid, to the point that when I think of Nickelodeon from the 1990s & 2000s, while most tend to reckon to Rugrats or Spongebob, I think of Avatar and Hey Arnold.

The shows also were wise 'beyond their years', if that makes any sense, as they were deep and intellectual stories that were easy enough for children to understand/get behind, and smart enough for adults to enjoy as well. I can still watch Hey Arnold or Avatar as an adult and enjoy these shows, in fact in a more deep way that I couldn't have as a kid (especially certain jokes in Hey Arnold and plot points/story elements that flew over my head as a kid).

I can't say the same for many other Nicktoons from the 1990s & 2000s, even though many of them were great in their own right.



what happened to the slime?  slimes away  on the only network fork for kids

you want disgusting  I'll show you disgusting

then it turned into vomit cute Power Puff Girls





They started to phase out the slime element in the Late 2000s. The last major show on the network which still had that slime aesthetic to the show's DNA was SlimeTime Live, which aired from 2000-2003. The closure of Nickelodeon Studios in 2005 also had a big impact on the shift in Nickelodeon's marketing away from the 'obscure' (but in a good way) approach to marketing from the 80s/90s/early 00s, to competing head on with the more streamlined & 'clean cut' marketing found on the Disney Channel around the same time, and the shows that Nick produced during that time period shows.

The shift from being a primarily animation channel in the 90s & early 00s, to primarily live action/tween based in the mid-late 2000s was a considerable shift, not to mention most game shows being reduced to only showing on Nick GAS (which ironically closed down in 2007 due to low ratings). The last show ever filmed at Nickelodeon Studios was Nickelodeon SPLAT! in 2004, which was 15 years ago. Like MQG mentioned, a whole new generation of kids unfortunately grew up in an era of Nickelodeon in which 'slime' and 'gross out' humor has been shunned upon in favor for more streamlined content and a 'clean cut' ethos to the network. That generation is now in high school now and unfortunately missed out on arguably the last great eras for children's entertainment across the board, but especially in relation to Nickelodeon.



I think most people would start the silver age in 1998 instead because that's when Dil was added to Rugrats and Catdog (first "post-golden age" Nicktoon according to fans at the time) premiered.

From what I've read over the years, it seems like Nick's silver age (1998-2005) was a transition between the more "indie" golden age (1991-1998) and the more "corporate"/teenybopper bronze age (2005-2009).


Yeah that seems a lot more reasonable. However, the guy's comment of claiming the Golden Age as from 1994-2004 was rather interesting though. It seemed he was talking in relation to when the channel was both at its peak in popularity and when the quality of the network was relatively strong. You can say that the 1994-2004/2005 era was the 'All That Era', since that particular show being referenced here ran from 94'-05' during what is considered the best era (or eras, in our discussion) of Nickelodeon from a nostalgic viewpoint. In fact, a much broader 1991-2005 'Apex Period' for Nickelodeon, which can include both 'Golden' and 'Silver' periods I wouldn't necessarily object to.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/30/19 at 1:10 pm


Yeah thats a good point. In fact, it may have already been like that for a few years now. In particular to just K-5, its definitely has been like that for well over a decade at this point. It seemed like after 2005/2006 was when the variety in Nicktoons began to dwindle in favor of more Spongebob reruns. This started around the time Cyma Zarghami took over Herb Scannel, who himself made some questionable decisions but overall was still a good president for the brand. In fact, Herb Scannel's tenure at Nickelodeon from 1996-2006 reminds me a lot of Jim Staples tenure at Cartoon Network from 2001-2007. Not sure whether or not you agree.

Herb Scannell at Nick and Jim Samples at CN seemed to be both presidents who started off good for most of their career, but in their last few years it seems like they were beginning to lose it or become out of touch, and laid the groundwork for their successors.

Scannell closed down Nick Studios in 2005 and was responsible for them going after the teenybopper audience more that year (EazyE-Man pointed this out, Nick feeling different in 2005). While Samples began watering down CN by 2005, ending the Cartoon Cartoons, replacing them with rather "meh" shows like Camp Lazlo, Gym Partner, and Hi Hi Puff Daddy that never made an impact, and greenlighting CN's first ever live-action movie Re-Animated.

I don't really know if all the changes could be ascribed to them specifically, perhaps they were just a matter of inevitable shifting public tastes, or the emergence of Web 2.0 making the TV networks obsolete.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/30/19 at 9:17 pm


Herb Scannell at Nick and Jim Samples at CN seemed to be both presidents who started off good for most of their career, but in their last few years it seems like they were beginning to lose it or become out of touch, and laid the groundwork for their successors.

Scannell closed down Nick Studios in 2005 and was responsible for them going after the teenybopper audience more that year (EazyE-Man pointed this out, Nick feeling different in 2005). While Samples began watering down CN by 2005, ending the Cartoon Cartoons, replacing them with rather "meh" shows like Camp Lazlo, Gym Partner, and Hi Hi Puff Daddy that never made an impact, and greenlighting CN's first ever live-action movie Re-Animated.



Good points. Also on the bold, I agree. At the time, 2005 did seem a bit.... off. I noticed that when I first saw the premiere of 'Fear of a Krabby Patty' aka the first episode of Season 4 of Spongebob. It was a good and rather iconic episode, and it still felt like the classic Spongebob I was used to, but I did notice a few cosmetic changes, such as updated character animations, slightly different character tropes (Spongebob being noticeably more obnoxious that what I was used to, and this is what started the slow 'flanderization' of many of the cast), the slight voice acting changes, etc. Not to mention this being the post Stephen Hillenburg/Derek Drymon era and the first of the Paul Tiblitt era of Spongebob, which in retrospect was a major sign of changes to be braced ahead.

That's just w/ Spongebob, although there were other noticeable changes that occurred in 05', Spongebob becoming the new official face of the network was definitely the most notable.

This video explains it all quite well:

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I don't really know if all the changes could be ascribed to them specifically, perhaps they were just a matter of inevitable shifting public tastes, or the emergence of Web 2.0 making the TV networks obsolete.


Web 2.0 was still in its early stages though. There wasn't the readily accessible way to watch entertainment outside of the television. However, the 'TV Experience' was certainly on its way downhill at that point. Just the year prior, the series finale of FRIENDS had a record 52.5 million viewers, making it the fourth watched series finale in the 2000s, and one of the most iconic in television history. Most analysts consider that series finale the last major one to have happened in television history (although, one can make the argument that the recent series finale of Game of Thrones was record shattering, especially in DVR/Video recordings/Streaming records. That may very well be the last major 'TV Experience').

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: piecesof93 on 05/30/19 at 9:23 pm


Silver Age Nick in a nutshell (2002 bumper):
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Idk, for some reason, I have a really soft spot for 2002-2004 (and 2001-2005 by extension). Idk if it’s rose-colored glasses or actual quality of cartoons, but I find myself feeling fonder nostalgia for the first half of my childhood.  :-\

I feel the same way about the first half of my childhood. It has a different, more sincere type of nostalgia to it.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/30/19 at 9:40 pm


Web 2.0 was still in its early stages though. There wasn't the readily accessible way to watch entertainment outside of the television. However, the 'TV Experience' was certainly on its way downhill at that point. Just the year prior, the series finale of FRIENDS had a record 52.5 million viewers, making it the fourth watched series finale in the 2000s, and one of the most iconic in television history. Most analysts consider that series finale the last major one to have happened in television history (although, one can make the argument that the recent series finale of Game of Thrones was record shattering, especially in DVR/Video recordings/Streaming records. That may very well be the last major 'TV Experience').

True, Web 2.0 was still in the early changes. Yet with all the changes in kid culture, as well as culture in general, and society in general, taking place right around when Web 2.0 came out in 2005, it seems like its impact could be felt from the very beginning.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/31/19 at 9:16 am

Its official, there is going to be an All That Reboot:

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There has already been an introductory parody, its pretty delightful to watch actually ;D;

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You guys think this has promise?

https://themuse.jezebel.com/all-that-is-coming-back-but-cant-possibly-live-up-to-t-1835101091

These guys, don't necessarily agree. I have hope though, it can be a great show for a new generation.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/31/19 at 3:30 pm

It could be good for kids today. Since Cyma zarghami got fired, Nick's new presidents are at least trying to revive some of the creativity they had pre-2005.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 06/02/19 at 1:49 pm


Good points. Also on the bold, I agree. At the time, 2005 did seem a bit.... off.

That's just w/ Spongebob, although there were other noticeable changes that occurred in 05', Spongebob becoming the new official face of the network was definitely the most notable.

Funny thing is, when you look up "x year Nickelodeon" videos on Youtube, 2000-2004 videos are still plentiful/popular, but then you get to 2005 and the number of videos drops off. Coincidence? :)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: shadowcookie on 06/02/19 at 2:11 pm



Web 2.0 was still in its early stages though. There wasn't the readily accessible way to watch entertainment outside of the television. However, the 'TV Experience' was certainly on its way downhill at that point. Just the year prior, the series finale of FRIENDS had a record 52.5 million viewers, making it the fourth watched series finale in the 2000s, and one of the most iconic in television history. Most analysts consider that series finale the last major one to have happened in television history (although, one can make the argument that the recent series finale of Game of Thrones was record shattering, especially in DVR/Video recordings/Streaming records. That may very well be the last major 'TV Experience').


Maybe it’s just my memory being bad but I don’t remember any alternative to television in 2005.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 06/02/19 at 2:30 pm


Funny thing is, when you look up "x year Nickelodeon" videos on Youtube, 2000-2004 videos are still plentiful/popular, but then you get to 2005 and the number of videos drops off. Coincidence? :)


Further proves my point ;D. Although I am not against the idea of pushing the silver age all the way to 2005, but at the same time 2004-2005 was a pretty transformative time for the network, as I am sure Eric, Marquis, and myself have already relayed. I guess a fair way to look at it is that 2004 was the last GOOD year for the network in its entirety, while the 2004-2005 school year was the last GOOD school year for the network in its entirety. 2005, as a whole, was half good and half meh.



Maybe it’s just my memory being bad but I don’t remember any alternative to television in 2005.


I think what Zelek was saying was that the 2004-2006 was the VERY start of things slowly moving into the modern world of streaming & or alternative ways to consume content. What I mentioned was that many shows that ended around the 2004-2007 time period (Sex and the City, F*R*I*E*N*D*S, Frasier, Everybody Loves Raymond, That 70s Show, King of Queens, etc.) were the last to have their series finales be huge cultural milestones. The 'TV Experience' if that makes any sense, where everybody and their grandmother could talk non stop the next day about the plot of their favorite TV shows coming to an end.

VERY few shows that have ended since (unless we're referring to shows on HBO like The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, etc.) have generated that type of buzz as they were being signed off. The Big Bang Theory just ended its near 12 year run two weeks ago...... I barely heard much buzz from it. It is to suggest that we all don't watch the same content anymore, which is good in many ways, but it does reckon back to a time where people would have 'watchnight parties' for some of their favorite TV shows, or kids would wake up on Saturday mornings to catch their favorite cartoons, or families would watch TGIF or The Magical World of Disney on Saturday nights.

The early-mid 2000s was the tail end of the 'TV experience', not to mention 'Living Room Culture' in itself.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: shadowcookie on 06/02/19 at 2:39 pm



I think what Zelek was saying was that the 2004-2006 was the VERY start of things slowly moving into the modern world of streaming & or alternative ways to consume content. What I mentioned was that many shows that ended around the 2004-2007 time period (Sex and the City, F*R*I*E*N*D*S, Frasier, Everybody Loves Raymond, That 70s Show, King of Queens, etc.) were the last to have their series finales be huge cultural milestones. The 'TV Experience' if that makes any sense, where everybody and their grandmother could talk non stop the next day about the plot of their favorite TV shows coming to an end.

VERY few shows that have ended since (unless we're referring to shows on HBO like The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, etc.) have generated that type of buzz as they were being signed off. The Big Bang Theory just ended its near 12 year run two weeks ago...... I barely heard much buzz from it. It is to suggest that we all don't watch the same content anymore, which is good in many ways, but it does reckon back to a time where people would have 'watchnight parties' for some of their favorite TV shows, or kids would wake up on Saturday mornings to catch their favorite cartoons, or families would watch TGIF or The Magical World of Disney on Saturday nights.

The early-mid 2000s was the tail end of the 'TV experience', not to mention 'Living Room Culture' in itself.


I suppose that’s true - and you’re right that nobody really cared about the end of the Big Bang Theory. The show was still culturally significant for its first few seasons though. It was one of the last shows me, my sister and mum would all watch together, and one of the last shows I remember lots of people talking about in daily life. Heroes is another one.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 06/02/19 at 7:53 pm


Further proves my point ;D. Although I am not against the idea of pushing the silver age all the way to 2005, but at the same time 2004-2005 was a pretty transformative time for the network, as I am sure Eric, Marquis, and myself have already relayed. I guess a fair way to look at it is that 2004 was the last GOOD year for the network in its entirety, while the 2004-2005 school year was the last GOOD school year for the network in its entirety. 2005, as a whole, was half good and half meh.

Yeah that's true. I used to put more weight on Cyma zarghami taking over in January 2006 as being Nick's shift, but now looking back on it, they were already leaning in that "Cyma direction" in mid-late 2005, when Herb Scannell was still there.

By mid-late 2005 you already had:
-The closure of Nick Studios
-Post-movie Spongebob
-Post-Channel chasers Fairly oddparents
-U pick live was cancelled
-Danny phantom kinda went downhill after peaking with Ultimate enemy
-"Teenybopper" shows like Zoey 101 and Unfabulous taking over
-Less focus on Nicktoons, any show that wasn't Spongebob wasn't really given a chance
-Nick focusing more on teens and less on kids and no longer saying "First kids' network" in commercials (2004 was the LAST time they said that slogan, interestingly).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 06/02/19 at 9:08 pm


Yeah that's true. I used to put more weight on Cyma zarghami taking over in January 2006 as being Nick's shift, but now looking back on it, they were already leaning in that "Cyma direction" in mid-late 2005, when Herb Scannell was still there.

By mid-late 2005 you already had:
-The closure of Nick Studios
-Post-movie Spongebob
-Post-Channel chasers Fairly oddparents
-U pick live was cancelled
-Danny phantom kinda went downhill after peaking with Ultimate enemy
-"Teenybopper" shows like Zoey 101 and Unfabulous taking over
-Less focus on Nicktoons, any show that wasn't Spongebob wasn't really given a chance
-Nick focusing more on teens and less on kids and no longer saying "First kids' network" in commercials (2004 was the LAST time they said that slogan, interestingly).


You might as well add the original Nicktoons station becoming Nicktoons Network and no longer commercial free, that happened in mid-late 2005, and then Nicktoons Network started coming up with its own programming and took classic nicktoons and syndicated shows off the air.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 06/03/19 at 10:09 am

Pretty dope interview:

uOW_l_1v00Y

Apparently, there is going to be a 'Good Burger 2' as well in the near future. All of this Late 90s nostalgia is just rushing back to me now :D.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 06/03/19 at 10:09 am


I think what Zelek was saying was that the 2004-2006 was the VERY start of things slowly moving into the modern world of streaming & or alternative ways to consume content. What I mentioned was that many shows that ended around the 2004-2007 time period (Sex and the City, F*R*I*E*N*D*S, Frasier, Everybody Loves Raymond, That 70s Show, King of Queens, etc.) were the last to have their series finales be huge cultural milestones. The 'TV Experience' if that makes any sense, where everybody and their grandmother could talk non stop the next day about the plot of their favorite TV shows coming to an end.

VERY few shows that have ended since (unless we're referring to shows on HBO like The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, etc.) have generated that type of buzz as they were being signed off. The Big Bang Theory just ended its near 12 year run two weeks ago...... I barely heard much buzz from it. It is to suggest that we all don't watch the same content anymore, which is good in many ways, but it does reckon back to a time where people would have 'watchnight parties' for some of their favorite TV shows, or kids would wake up on Saturday mornings to catch their favorite cartoons, or families would watch TGIF or The Magical World of Disney on Saturday nights.

The early-mid 2000s was the tail end of the 'TV experience', not to mention 'Living Room Culture' in itself.


That's a good point about the Living Room Culture stuff. TV events used to be a huge thing back when I was growing up. I can recall when Cheers went off the air, though I was very young. Pretty sure it was something like 90 million viewers watched that finale or something. I can also recall the finale to the first season of American Idol and how huge that turned out to be. Because of online streaming and there being so many other ways to watch stuff, there's pretty much no chance that a show could get that big anymore.

Even with kids shows it's not like it used to be. When I was a kid, shows like Rugrats or Hey Arnold were literally watched by every kid that I knew. We could all recite the catchphrases and would often quote the shows to each other. Kids watch so many videos online and stuff like that these days that there doesn't look like there any kids shows that popular anymore.

It's kinda like that with toys and stuff too. Like back during the late '90s when Pokemon was at it's peak, every kid watched the show, every kid had the Game Boy games, every kid collected the cards. You could literally talk to pretty much any kid about Pokemon and they would be able to tell at least the basic stuff about it. I'm not sure that there are still things kids like these days that are that popular.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 06/03/19 at 7:50 pm

Man, those of us who grew up on silver age nick are really stuck floating in the middle, with nowhere to go, lol.

On Facebook Nick videos you've got top-rated comments from golden age fans like "Nick started sucking the moment we hit the year 2000". Then on Twitter you've got posts from bronze age fans like "Nick was at its best in 2007-2012 when it had iCarly, Victorious, and Big Time Rush" with thousands of likes. But those of us who grew up on silver age Nick, in-between two popular eras, have no major presence, lol.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 06/03/19 at 8:24 pm


Man, those of us who grew up on silver age nick are really stuck floating in the middle, with nowhere to go, lol.

On Facebook Nick videos you've got top-rated comments from golden age fans like "Nick started sucking the moment we hit the year 2000". Then on Twitter you've got posts from bronze age fans like "Nick was at its best in 2007-2012 when it had iCarly, Victorious, and Big Time Rush" with thousands of likes. But those of us who grew up on silver age Nick, in-between two popular eras, have no major presence, lol.


I can argue that 2007-2012 was an okay era for sitcoms because of iCarly and Victorious, but the rest at the time weren't that great, and you can't start with 2007, you'd have to start with 2004 because of Drake & Josh, Ned's Declassified, and Zoey 101. If we're talking about the NICKTOONS, then that era was in big trouble after 2005. Combine those 2 factors together then to me Nickelodeon was over with after Avatar ended (Danny Phantom and Drake & Josh had ended by then).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 06/04/19 at 5:24 am


That's a good point about the Living Room Culture stuff. TV events used to be a huge thing back when I was growing up. I can recall when Cheers went off the air, though I was very young. Pretty sure it was something like 90 million viewers watched that finale or something. I can also recall the finale to the first season of American Idol and how huge that turned out to be. Because of online streaming and there being so many other ways to watch stuff, there's pretty much no chance that a show could get that big anymore.

Even with kids shows it's not like it used to be. When I was a kid, shows like Rugrats or Hey Arnold were literally watched by every kid that I knew. We could all recite the catchphrases and would often quote the shows to each other. Kids watch so many videos online and stuff like that these days that there doesn't look like there any kids shows that popular anymore.

It's kinda like that with toys and stuff too. Like back during the late '90s when Pokemon was at it's peak, every kid watched the show, every kid had the Game Boy games, every kid collected the cards. You could literally talk to pretty much any kid about Pokemon and they would be able to tell at least the basic stuff about it. I'm not sure that there are still things kids like these days that are that popular.


I agree. In almost all aspects of culture, it seemed like it was a more ‘shared’ experience. We have become so separated and jaded in our society.



Man, those of us who grew up on silver age nick are really stuck floating in the middle, with nowhere to go, lol.

On Facebook Nick videos you've got top-rated comments from golden age fans like "Nick started sucking the moment we hit the year 2000". Then on Twitter you've got posts from bronze age fans like "Nick was at its best in 2007-2012 when it had iCarly, Victorious, and Big Time Rush" with thousands of likes. But those of us who grew up on silver age Nick, in-between two popular eras, have no major presence, lol.


Really? I find that hard to believe in all honestly. 2007-2012 just still seems very recent. I agree with Mqg that the live action shows at that time were still decent. However, that alone didn’t save the network. Nickeloeon at that time may have been as popular relatively with Zoomers as the Golden Age was to Millennials. But in sheer numbers, I’d imagine Nick’s ratings going downhill since 2007.... but I could be wrong. But if that were the case, then the popularity of the network would’ve went downhill, even if Nickelodeon itself was still the most popular with children in comparison to the other ‘Big Three’ children’s networks.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 06/04/19 at 5:25 am

Oh and welcome back @MachineHead! :D.

It’s been a while, how’ve you been man?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 06/04/19 at 7:23 am


Really? I find that hard to believe in all honestly. 2007-2012 just still seems very recent. I agree with Mqg that the live action shows at that time were still decent. However, that alone didn’t save the network. Nickeloeon at that time may have been as popular relatively with Zoomers as the Golden Age was to Millennials. But in sheer numbers, I’d imagine Nick’s ratings going downhill since 2007.... but I could be wrong. But if that were the case, then the popularity of the network would’ve went downhill, even if Nickelodeon itself was still the most popular with children in comparison to the other ‘Big Three’ children’s networks.


The ratings for Nick are certainly not anywhere near where they used to be. Even though I can't necessarily look them up, this is almost guaranteed because of the popularity of online streaming over the past 10 years. The thing with Nick, though, is that they just haven't been able to find another major show to make the centerpiece of their network like what they had back during the '90s and '00s. Nick has mostly just been showing the same couple of old shows for at least the last five years or more, while their competitors have had most of the top rated shows over the last few years.


Oh and welcome back @MachineHead! :D.

It’s been a while, how’ve you been man?


Been good, thanks for asking, though. Just busy as of late.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 06/07/19 at 1:53 pm


The ratings for Nick are certainly not anywhere near where they used to be. Even though I can't necessarily look them up, this is almost guaranteed because of the popularity of online streaming over the past 10 years. The thing with Nick, though, is that they just haven't been able to find another major show to make the centerpiece of their network like what they had back during the '90s and '00s. Nick has mostly just been showing the same couple of old shows for at least the last five years or more, while their competitors have had most of the top rated shows over the last few years.

Been good, thanks for asking, though. Just busy as of late.


I agree. And same, been busy af since graduating from school....

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 06/09/19 at 9:28 am


Btw is it just me Zelek, or did you also notice how all of the change between all of the major kid channels happen usually in or around during election years?

1996:

-The Last full classic Year for Old a School The Disney Channel

-Last year for classic Nickelodeon shows like Ren & Stimpy, Rocko's Modern Life, Pete & Pete; the premiere of shows like Hey Arnold, Blues Clues; Nick's first theatrical film Harriet Spy

-The Last full Checkerboard Year for Cartoon Network


2004:

-Toon Disney Launches Jetix, starting the decline of its reruns of Disney Afternoon and OSM programming

-Nickelodeon ends most of their 90's reruns of Ren & Stimpy, Rocko, Doug, etc.; Hey Arnold, Rugrats, Rocket Power, and Wild Thornberry's end; SNICK ends, Last year for Classic Spongebob

-Cartoon Network transitions from the Powerhouse Era into the City Era; most 50's-80's cartoon reruns are now officially on Boomerang


An update to this post I made about the connection between election years and major changes at children's television networks:

In 2008 you had;

-Cartoon Network entering into the infamous ‘Noodz Era’, which is universally considered the ‘dark age’ for the network. Many iconic shows on the network during the 2000s like KND and Billy & Mandy end at this point. There is no trace of anything from the Late 90s/Early 00s (aka, the ‘Powerhouse era’) on the network besides Ed, Edd, n’ Eddy. Toonami closes its door in September of 2008. And you saw the start of the network relying too much on cartoons from Teletoon in Canada, such as George of the Jungle and Total Drama Island (awful shows I might add 8-P)

-Nickelodeon ended even more iconic shows/reruns of shows on their network this year. Avatar, Ned’s Declassified, Drake & Josh, Zoey 101, Rugrats (& spin-off All Grown Up), etc. etc. Spongebob enters into the dark age with the infamous start of Season 6 (and all its cringeworthy ‘shock value’ humor that went along with it), likewise for Fairly Odd Parents in their 6th season with the introduction of the character Poof. Cringeworthy shows like the Mighty B and Fanboy & Chum Chum are now on the air. I could go on and on. The only redeemable thing about 2008 for Nickelodeon was that the ‘Splat’ logo was still in usage, but in 2009 that’s would ultimately change as well.

-Disney Channel didn’t really have any more changes this year. However, with That’s So Raven ending in 2007, and shows like Hannah Montana and Wizards of Waverly Place already on the air, it suggests that 2008 was the first truly modern year for the channel. Not to mention the popularity of Camp Rock in summer of 2008, which was the nail in the coffin for good DCOMs on the network, this still remains arguably the worst DCOM ever in the history of Disney Channel. Let’s not forget Disney’s inherent obsession with the Jonas Brothers by this point. The only saving grace was Zach & Cody, which ended in 08’...... but hey, Suite Life on Deck was still good enough. Also, you had Phineas & Ferb which was a good cartoon. But outside of that, 2008 fully signaled the modern age of Disney Channel, and not in a good way.


That’s it for now, but I’ll definitely make a list for other election years if you’re interested. But overall, it seems that a lot of these major changes tend to occur during election years.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 06/09/19 at 10:38 am

^ Excellent list right there. I've explained it this way multiple times too. We were there for 2004 which kick started the 2nd half of our elementary school years, and 2008 was the final nail in the coffin for our childhoods.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 06/09/19 at 11:28 am


An update to this post I made about the connection between election years and major changes at children's television networks:

In 2008 you had;

-Cartoon Network entering into the infamous ‘Noodz Era’, which is universally considered the ‘dark age’ for the network. Many iconic shows on the network during the 2000s like KND and Billy & Mandy end at this point. There is no trace of anything from the Late 90s/Early 00s (aka, the ‘Powerhouse era’) on the network besides Ed, Edd, n’ Eddy. Toonami closes its door in September of 2008. And you saw the start of the network relying too much on cartoons from Teletoon in Canada, such as George of the Jungle and Total Drama Island (awful shows I might add 8-P)

-Nickelodeon ended even more iconic shows/reruns of shows on their network this year. Avatar, Ned’s Declassified, Drake & Josh, Zoey 101, Rugrats (& spin-off All Grown Up), etc. etc. Spongebob enters into the dark age with the infamous start of Season 6 (and all its cringeworthy ‘shock value’ humor that went along with it), likewise for Fairly Odd Parents in their 6th season with the introduction of the character Poof. Cringeworthy shows like the Mighty B and Fanboy & Chum Chum are now on the air. I could go on and on. The only redeemable thing about 2008 for Nickelodeon was that the ‘Splat’ logo was still in usage, but in 2009 that’s would ultimately change as well.

-Disney Channel didn’t really have any more changes this year. However, with That’s So Raven ending in 2007, and shows like Hannah Montana and Wizards of Waverly Place already on the air, it suggests that 2008 was the first truly modern year for the channel. Not to mention the popularity of Camp Rock in summer of 2008, which was the nail in the coffin for good DCOMs on the network, this still remains arguably the worst DCOM ever in the history of Disney Channel. Let’s not forget Disney’s inherent obsession with the Jonas Brothers by this point. The only saving grace was Zach & Cody, which ended in 08’...... but hey, Suite Life on Deck was still good enough. Also, you had Phineas & Ferb which was a good cartoon. But outside of that, 2008 fully signaled the modern age of Disney Channel, and not in a good way.


That’s it for now, but I’ll definitely make a list for other election years if you’re interested. But overall, it seems that a lot of these major changes tend to occur during election years.

I disagree with Camp Rock being the worst DCOM of all-time. There are far worse DCOMs than Camp Rock that come out BEFORE and AFTER it.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 06/09/19 at 11:58 am


I disagree with Camp Rock being the worst DCOM of all-time. There are far worse DCOMs than Camp Rock that come out BEFORE and AFTER it.


I never found Cheetah Girls that spectacular, and I was only 7 when that came out. The thing is though, High School Musical had more of an impact on Disney Channel's future than Cheetah Girls, due to the fact that HSM was the highest viewed DCOM of all time. I agree that Camp Rock wasn't the worst. A lot of people liked Camp Rock actually, but I can't give my opinion on that movie because I had stopped watching Disney Channel by then.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 06/09/19 at 7:32 pm


I never found Cheetah Girls that spectacular, and I was only 7 when that came out. The thing is though, High School Musical had more of an impact on Disney Channel's future than Cheetah Girls, due to the fact that HSM was the highest viewed DCOM of all time. I agree that Camp Rock wasn't the worst. A lot of people liked Camp Rock actually, but I can't give my opinion on that movie because I had stopped watching Disney Channel by then.


I loathed it when it came out 8-P. But then again, I wasn't really the target audience for that movie any way. Im sure as that it was aimed at 9-11 year old 'tweenage' girls, which I totally didn't fit that category ;D.

But in all seriousness though, this was the only era of DCOMs that mattered;

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Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 06/09/19 at 7:41 pm


I loathed it when it came out 8-P. But then again, I wasn't really the target audience for that movie any way. Im sure as that it was aimed at 9-11 year old 'tweenage' girls, which I totally didn't fit that category ;D.

But in all seriousness though, this was the only era of DCOMs that mattered;

yIuMcQJg9Tw


I'm sure every girl 6 & up at the time loved Cheetah Girls. My cousins born in 1994 and 1997 watched the premiere in August 2003 and they were talking about it EVERY SINGLE day and many other girls in elementary school were talking about how they wanted to buy their clothes and merchandise!  ::)  I remember seeing promos for Cheetah Girls and Freaky Friday throughout summer 2003, and I was like Freaky Friday looks interesting, but Cheetah Girls looked unappealing to me. Only Raven Samone caught my immediate attention because I fell in love with That's So Raven around the same time. Now I swear I used to think Mariah Carey was one of the Cheetah Girls but knowing her age now that wouldn't have made any sense anyway.  ;D I think I got her confused with the Brazilian girl or the other light skin girl.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 06/09/19 at 7:50 pm


I loathed it when it came out 8-P. But then again, I wasn't really the target audience for that movie any way. Im sure as that it was aimed at 9-11 year old 'tweenage' girls, which I totally didn't fit that category ;D.

But in all seriousness though, this was the only era of DCOMs that mattered;

yIuMcQJg9Tw


Personally I'd extend until 2006 with Wendy Wu Homecoming Warrior (with HSM being the outlier of course which started the transition). There were still some good DCOM in 2004 and 2005 IMO, like Halloweentown High, Twitches, Zenon: Z3, Kim Possible: So The Drama, The Proud Family Movie, Stuck In The Suburbs, and Life Is Ruff. I didn't like all the movies though, 2003 & earlier were superior obviously, but there were still some memorable ones out there.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 06/09/19 at 8:25 pm

This is turning into a Disney Channel thread ;D.

Anyways, my favorite era of DCOMs was from 2001-2007. There are DCOMs that came out from 1997-2000 that I like and there are DCOMs from 2008-2011 (last time I watched a DCOM) that I liked. However, I have the highest affinity for MOST of the DCOMs that came out from '01 to '07.

The Suite Life Movie was the last DCOM that I watched.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mwalker1996 on 06/10/19 at 3:19 am


I loathed it when it came out 8-P. But then again, I wasn't really the target audience for that movie any way. Im sure as that it was aimed at 9-11 year old 'tweenage' girls, which I totally didn't fit that category ;D.

But in all seriousness though, this was the only era of DCOMs that mattered;

yIuMcQJg9Tw
Guys tend to outgrow Disney channel faster than girls. I enjoyed it and im the same age as you and mqg, tho watching it again it definitely feels cringy that demi would just flat out lie about her mom being a cheif thinking that she wouldn't fit in. My 92 born cousin enjoyed it to and he was well past the Disney channel age at the time. The dcoms after camp rock were so-so. The last one that I enjoyed was Let it Shine from 2012 and that was well after I stopped watching disney. I related to that movie because the main cast was a black church-going family and the star of the movie was Tyler James from Everybody Hates Chris. Definitely worth a watch since Disney doesn't typically air a lot of African American dcoms like they did in the 90s and 00s.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mwalker1996 on 06/10/19 at 3:47 am


I never found Cheetah Girls that spectacular, and I was only 7 when that came out. The thing is though, High School Musical had more of an impact on Disney Channel's future than Cheetah Girls, due to the fact that HSM was the highest viewed DCOM of all time. I agree that Camp Rock wasn't the worst. A lot of people liked Camp Rock actually, but I can't give my opinion on that movie because I had stopped watching Disney Channel by then.
I prefer Cheetah girls 2 over 1 but it was interesting that one of the girls was adopted (since I was also adopted) not something you'll typically hear about in a kids movie. The 3rd one lost me with raven not being present. HSM definitely had a bigger impact on Disney Channel overall with HSM 3 having a theatrical release which was rare for supposed to be tv movie series. Cheetah Girls definitely was no slouch i remember seeing some cheetah girl 2 merch in the summer of 2006 along HSM merch at Walmart.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 06/10/19 at 6:31 am


Guys tend to outgrow Disney channel faster than girls.


This is very true. We forget this, but Disney Channel and Snick/The N/Teen Nick part of Nickelodeon were targeted towards an older audience, I would say about 8-14 year old's overall but for guys it would cut off earlier especially if it was too girly. However, I'm sure the majority of kids start watching sitcoms between 6 and 8. I could NOT get into any sitcom until I was 7, and That's So Raven is the only reason why I gave other sitcoms and live-action movies on Disney Channel a chance. Later on I got into Drake & Josh as as well. Colorful cartoons on the TV screen catch your attention at an earlier age. That's why I wouldn't be surprised if anyone were into Disney animated movies/shows, nicktoons, or cartoon cartoons since they were in pre-K or Kindergarten coming back home from school. Sitcoms on the other hand, you don't really get that dialogue until you're an upperclassman in elementary school. That's why I could NEVER get into Lizzie McGuire, and I regret that I wasn't able to enjoy Even Stevens when that was on regularly. There are exceptions tho. I feel like the Amanda Show was a more of a kiddy sitcom because of the silly skits although there were pop cultural references in there you'd probably had to be older at the time to understand. Hannah Montana was supposed to target tweens, but due to the heavily cheesy/corny plot, that show captured the attention of mainly girls in their single digits, and the merchandise throughout the time can prove that.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mwalker1996 on 06/10/19 at 2:31 pm


This is very true. We forget this, but Disney Channel and Snick/The N/Teen Nick part of Nickelodeon were targeted towards an older audience, I would say about 8-14 year old's overall but for guys it would cut off earlier especially if it was too girly. However, I'm sure the majority of kids start watching sitcoms between 6 and 8. I could NOT get into any sitcom until I was 7, and That's So Raven is the only reason why I gave other sitcoms and live-action movies on Disney Channel a chance. Later on I got into Drake & Josh as as well. Colorful cartoons on the TV screen catch your attention at an earlier age. That's why I wouldn't be surprised if anyone were into Disney animated movies/shows, nicktoons, or cartoon cartoons since they were in pre-K or Kindergarten coming back home from school. Sitcoms on the other hand, you don't really get that dialogue until you're an upperclassman in elementary school. That's why I could NEVER get into Lizzie McGuire, and I regret that I wasn't able to enjoy Even Stevens when that was on regularly. There are exceptions tho. I feel like the Amanda Show was a more of a kiddy sitcom because of the silly skits although there were pop cultural references in there you'd probably had to be older at the time to understand. Hannah Montana was supposed to target tweens, but due to the heavily cheesy/corny plot, that show captured the attention of mainly girls in their single digits, and the merchandise throughout the time can prove that.
Not the girls in my area tons of teenage girls i knew watched Hannah Montana. I remember in 9th grade the girls were so sad when Hannah Montana was ending.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 06/10/19 at 4:35 pm


Not the girls in my area tons of teenage girls i knew watched Hannah Montana. I remember in 9th grade the girls were so sad when Hannah Montana was ending.


Probably for Jackson and Oliver. In my area, you were made fun of for liking Hannah Montana in 5th and 6th grade especially if you were a guy. I feel like Hannah Montana was more appealing to the west coast audience. It kinda had a country/west coast vibe to it. Not really the best way to explain it lol. The Hannah Montana merchandise in stores throughout the late 00's became the new Powerpuff Girls merchandise of the early 00's. Shows like iCarly or Victorious on the other hand, there were many folks in middle school and even high school who enjoyed those shows. iCarly and Victorious were eons better than anything Disney Channel had at the time, even though Nickelodeon was practically dead by then when it came to the nicktoons and game shows. The ONLY GOOD sitcoms Disney Channel had in the late 00's to early 10's (without my nostalgia goggles) were Suite Life on Deck, Wizards of Waverly Place, and Good Luck Charlie. That's So Raven and Drake & Josh will always be my peak childhood sitcoms. Suite Life of Zack & Cody and Zoey 101 which both premiered in Winter/Spring 2005 were in the peak among our generation too.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 06/11/19 at 3:02 pm



Good points. Also on the bold, I agree. At the time, 2005 did seem a bit.... off. I noticed that when I first saw the premiere of 'Fear of a Krabby Patty' aka the first episode of Season 4 of Spongebob. It was a good and rather iconic episode, and it still felt like the classic Spongebob I was used to, but I did notice a few cosmetic changes, such as updated character animations, slightly different character tropes (Spongebob being noticeably more obnoxious that what I was used to, and this is what started the slow 'flanderization' of many of the cast), the slight voice acting changes, etc. Not to mention this being the post Stephen Hillenburg/Derek Drymon era and the first of the Paul Tiblitt era of Spongebob, which in retrospect was a major sign of changes to be braced ahead.

That's just w/ Spongebob, although there were other noticeable changes that occurred in 05', Spongebob becoming the new official face of the network was definitely the most notable.

This video explains it all quite well:

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Yeah. The first few episodes of season 4 were good, but Good Neighbors was the first sign of a quality drop, however there were still some good ones like Fear of a Krabby patty, Selling out, and Krabs vs plankton.

SquidBob TentaclePants was the episode that really told you that things have changed and wouldn't go back to how they were. WARNING: Picture may cause your eyes to bleed, lol.


https://s1.desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/co/image/1560/27/1560270919924.jpg


Krusty Towers and New Leaf happened shortly after and they were okay, but the rest of season 4 pretty much sucked.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 06/12/19 at 9:04 am


I'm sure every girl 6 & up at the time loved Cheetah Girls. My cousins born in 1994 and 1997 watched the premiere in August 2003 and they were talking about it EVERY SINGLE day and many other girls in elementary school were talking about how they wanted to buy their clothes and merchandise!  ::)  I remember seeing promos for Cheetah Girls and Freaky Friday throughout summer 2003, and I was like Freaky Friday looks interesting, but Cheetah Girls looked unappealing to me. Only Raven Samone caught my immediate attention because I fell in love with That's So Raven around the same time. Now I swear I used to think Mariah Carey was one of the Cheetah Girls but knowing her age now that wouldn't have made any sense anyway.  ;D I think I got her confused with the Brazilian girl or the other light skin girl.


I agree. Raven Symone was bae :D. But seriously though, I guess 'loath' was a bit harsh, it's just that it wasn't really targeted towards me. DCOMs for much of my childhood seemed to be pretty gender inclusive. So even a DCOM with a predominately female cast of main characters (Double Teamed, Cadet Kelly, Zenon, etc.) still had a lot of quirky plot elements and humor that could allow both boys and girls to enjoy it. Cheetah Girls wasn't a bad movie, per say, but it was probably the first DCOM I could remember that seemed to be exclusively chasing after the tweenage girl market, instead of the inclusive/wholesome family market that DCOMs sought after before. My next door neighbor growing up, she was massively obsessed with the Cheetah Girls series...... so theres that as well ;D.



This is turning into a Disney Channel thread ;D.

Anyways, my favorite era of DCOMs was from 2001-2007. There are DCOMs that came out from 1997-2000 that I like and there are DCOMs from 2008-2011 (last time I watched a DCOM) that I liked. However, I have the highest affinity for MOST of the DCOMs that came out from '01 to '07.

The Suite Life Movie was the last DCOM that I watched.


Lol facts. This guy named NakeyJakey makes some pretty dope videos;


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This video is a retrospective on the DCOMs from the Late 90s/Early-Mid 00s. An interesting point he brings up is that in the same way DCOMs were very memorable to people in my generation growing up is how many YouTube channels/series are to kids growing up in this generation. Our Date With the President's Daughter is the current generation's Jake v. Logan Paul series, or our generation's Express Yourself is the current generation's TikTok (cause they're expressing thereselves......right?..... I haven't used TikTok much so I really don't know ;D), you see what I mean?



Guys tend to outgrow Disney channel faster than girls. I enjoyed it and im the same age as you and mqg, tho watching it again it definitely feels cringy that demi would just flat out lie about her mom being a cheif thinking that she wouldn't fit in. My 92 born cousin enjoyed it to and he was well past the Disney channel age at the time. The dcoms after camp rock were so-so. The last one that I enjoyed was Let it Shine from 2012 and that was well after I stopped watching disney. I related to that movie because the main cast was a black church-going family and the star of the movie was Tyler James from Everybody Hates Chris. Definitely worth a watch since Disney doesn't typically air a lot of African American dcoms like they did in the 90s and 00s.


Ehh.... I don't really think that is entirely accurate. In fact, based on basic biology, guys typically mature later than girls, girls are already developing into womanhood much earlier than boys. There are exceptions to the rule of course, but this is generally the case. So in the late 2000s, you better best believe most girls our age were already more mature than us guys. So maturity doesn't really have much to do w/ it, because that usually coincides with less of an interest in things deemed 'kiddy'.

It has a lot more to do with the fact that Disney Channel's marketing post 2006 began to be exclusively geared towards tweenage girls. While prior to 2006, Disney Channel's audience was a lot more inclusive, ranging from ages 5/6 upto about ages 15/16, gearing towards both boys and girls. This is why boys started to stray away from the channel in the Late 2000s, like the guy around our age in the video I tagged responding to @BlackPanther. Part of it was the natural progression of growing out of childlike content, but much of it was Disney's disregard of having more wholesome and enjoyable content that could appeal to everybody, so the 'growing out' of Disney Channel for guys was much more accelerated than with other networks (even though they were having their own 'growing pains' during the Late 2000s as well).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 06/12/19 at 9:10 am

Anyways, in case you guys want to continue this conversation about Disney Channel, theres already a thread dedicated towards that;

http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=51539.210

Lets try to keep this thread about Nickelodeon.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 06/12/19 at 9:17 am


Yeah. The first few episodes of season 4 were good, but Good Neighbors was the first sign of a quality drop, however there were still some good ones like Fear of a Krabby patty, Selling out, and Krabs vs plankton.

SquidBob TentaclePants was the episode that really told you that things have changed and wouldn't go back to how they were. WARNING: Picture may cause your eyes to bleed, lol.


https://s1.desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/co/image/1560/27/1560270919924.jpg


Krusty Towers and New Leaf happened shortly after and they were okay, but the rest of season 4 pretty much sucked.


PIEGUYRULZ did an excellent commentary on EVERY (yes, you heard right, EVERY) Spongebob episode in existence. This includes the first four seasons:

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Overall, he believes that the first three seasons are good, while the fourth season was meh. Season 4 in many ways was a transitional season, it still had a lot of the older character tropes and elements that made seasons 1-3 great, but they started making a few decisions here & there that put a bad taste in my mouth and retrospectively is what lead to a decline in the series.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mwalker1996 on 06/25/19 at 11:23 pm


Probably for Jackson and Oliver. In my area, you were made fun of for liking Hannah Montana in 5th and 6th grade especially if you were a guy. I feel like Hannah Montana was more appealing to the west coast audience. It kinda had a country/west coast vibe to it. Not really the best way to explain it lol. The Hannah Montana merchandise in stores throughout the late 00's became the new Powerpuff Girls merchandise of the early 00's. Shows like iCarly or Victorious on the other hand, there were many folks in middle school and even high school who enjoyed those shows. iCarly and Victorious were eons better than anything Disney Channel had at the time, even though Nickelodeon was practically dead by then when it came to the nicktoons and game shows. The ONLY GOOD sitcoms Disney Channel had in the late 00's to early 10's (without my nostalgia goggles) were Suite Life on Deck, Wizards of Waverly Place, and Good Luck Charlie. That's So Raven and Drake & Josh will always be my peak childhood sitcoms. Suite Life of Zack & Cody and Zoey 101 which both premiered in Winter/Spring 2005 were in the peak among our generation too.
Miley to. Plenty of the girls at my school were still in that tweny booper stage. You were made fun of liking hannah Montana for a guy sure but girls embraced it. You had beiber fans in my grade.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: piecesof93 on 06/26/19 at 7:03 pm


I'm sure every girl 6 & up at the time loved Cheetah Girls. My cousins born in 1994 and 1997 watched the premiere in August 2003 and they were talking about it EVERY SINGLE day and many other girls in elementary school were talking about how they wanted to buy their clothes and merchandise!  ::)  I remember seeing promos for Cheetah Girls and Freaky Friday throughout summer 2003, and I was like Freaky Friday looks interesting, but Cheetah Girls looked unappealing to me. Only Raven Samone caught my immediate attention because I fell in love with That's So Raven around the same time. Now I swear I used to think Mariah Carey was one of the Cheetah Girls but knowing her age now that wouldn't have made any sense anyway.  ;D I think I got her confused with the Brazilian girl or the other light skin girl.

Let me tell you, The Cheetah Girls was huge and was our obsession! So many arguements occurred over who would get to be Raven or Adrienne. I remember going to buy the DVD & later the soundtrack at Walmart. You weren't cool if you couldn't learn all the dance movies and songs. It was such a fun time, I adored that movie. It's one of the highlights of my childhood and the film was very empowering. However, I grew out of it by the next year. I gave all my cheetah girl stuff to my cousin.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 07/15/19 at 5:33 pm


Funny thing is that I know of some Gen Xers who think 1977-1991 Nick was better, and that the "golden age" of 1991-1998 was actually their downfall. They said the Nicktoons were too loud and gross and betrayed the "true" Nick from the 80s that was more relaxed/educational, and that the 90s was when Nick "started wh*ring for dollars", lol.

Which I guess just goes to show that, like SNL, the version of Nick/Disney/CN that *you* grew up with is the best, with anything before your time being outdated/unknown and anything after your time being too new/sh*t. ;D


I agree. This is weirdly a generational thing because Gen Xers (as you know) are known to be the meek 'middle children' of modern Western generations. So it would make sense that they would prefer the channel when it was more 'low key' and slightly educational rather than when the channel became the children's entertainment juggernaut it was during the 1990s & early 2000s, aka during the childhood of Millennials. I guess the schism between Gen Xers and Millennials goes back deeper than we think ;D.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mwalker1996 on 07/16/19 at 8:36 am


I agree. This is weirdly a generational thing because Gen Xers (as you know) are known to be the meek 'middle children' of modern Western generations. So it would make sense that they would prefer the channel when it was more 'low key' and slightly educational rather than when the channel became the children's entertainment juggernaut it was during the 1990s & early 2000s, aka during the childhood of Millennials. I guess the schism between Gen Xers and Millennials goes back deeper than we think ;D.
As Y/z cuspers we're in a similar position. We're too young to remember the golden era of nicktoons but too old for the stuff post-2008.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 07/16/19 at 11:26 am


As Y/z cuspers we're in a similar position. We're too young to remember the golden era of nicktoons but too old for the stuff post-2008.


I agree. Golden Age Nick was 1998 and prior, Dark Age Nick is 2008 and after. Golden Age defined the childhoods of most Milllennials, while Dark Age has defined (and currently defining) the childhoods of Gen Z. We grew up sort of in between these two eras. However, I loved Silver Age Nick from 1998-2004/2005, so I have no regrets 8).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 07/16/19 at 8:33 pm


I agree. Golden Age Nick was 1998 and prior, Dark Age Nick is 2008 and after. Golden Age defined the childhoods of most Milllennials, while Dark Age has defined (and currently defining) the childhoods of Gen Z. We grew up sort of in between these two eras. However, I loved Silver Age Nick from 1998-2004/2005, so I have no regrets 8).


What's crazy is that I feel like the only good sitcoms when it came to silver age Nick were Kenan & Kel and maybe the Amanda Show, but the rest were pretty lackluster. Cousin Skeeter, Taina, and the All That revival don't hold up to Drake & Josh, Ned's Declassified, Zoey 101, iCarly, or even Victorious at all popularity wise and quality wise, that's just the truth, whether you liked these shows or not. It would have been amazing if the 2004-2010 sitcoms were mixed with the 90's-early 2005 nicktoons and all the slime shows through Slime Time Live, that would have been a 2nd golden age honestly. Too bad those weren't mixed together and came at different times.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mwalker1996 on 07/16/19 at 11:30 pm


What's crazy is that I feel like the only good sitcoms when it came to silver age Nick were Kenan & Kel and maybe the Amanda Show, but the rest were pretty lackluster. Cousin Skeeter, Taina, and the All That revival don't hold up to Drake & Josh, Ned's Declassified, Zoey 101, iCarly, or even Victorious at all popularity wise and quality wise, that's just the truth, whether you liked these shows or not. It would have been amazing if the 2004-2010 sitcoms were mixed with the 90's-early 2005 nicktoons and all the slime shows through Slime Time Live, that would have been a 2nd golden age honestly. Too bad those weren't mixed together and came at different times.
The golden snick stuff was ok but mostly forgettable I agree the 00s had better Nick sitcoms. Drake and Josh, Ned Declassified, Icarly and  Zoey 101 still get talked about till this day especially from people our age group who grown up on those shows.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 07/17/19 at 7:09 am

Yeah, Gen X and Gen Y watched very different types of cartoons when they were growing up. Gen X primarily grew up during the '70s and early '80s which is considered to be the least celebrated era when it comes to modern animation. Back then, most cartoons were cheaply made, and primarily created for the goal of selling toys. That changed as Gen Y got older, with most '90s cartoons being considerably less simplistic.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 07/18/19 at 4:30 am


Yeah, Gen X and Gen Y watched very different types of cartoons when they were growing up. Gen X primarily grew up during the '70s and early '80s which is considered to be the least celebrated era when it comes to modern animation. Back then, most cartoons were cheaply made, and primarily created for the goal of selling toys. That changed as Gen Y got older, with most '90s cartoons being considerably less simplistic.


This. I feel like there was a brief return of that mindset pertaining to cartoons in the mid-late 2000s. You had so many cheaply made cartoons with weird 'shock' humor for the sake of cheap laughs. Shows like Johnny Test, Penguins of Madagascar, and Fanboy & Chum Chum were notable examples. The innovative magic in the animation industry seemed to had disappear as networks were just concerned about profits and not much else. The quality of cartoons got better in the 2010s, but the variety of good cartoons also went downhill. The 90s & early 00s was the only time in modern animation when you had a perfect equilibrium of both quality cartoons and quantity of those same shows being played. As an example, when Rugrats and (to a somewhat lesser extent) the early seasons of Spongebob were on the air in the 90s & early 00s, despite them being Nickelodeon's main 'cash cows', the shows were never really played too much on the network. Thus, other Nicktoons on the network were also treated fairly in how much they aired, even the most obscure ones like Pelswick and Chalk Zone.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 07/18/19 at 4:31 am

Anyways, do any of you guys remember this iconic moment back in Nickelodeon in 2002?

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It was pretty bizarre to me when I was a kid :o. But cool at the same time!

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 07/18/19 at 8:42 am


This. I feel like there was a brief return of that mindset pertaining to cartoons in the mid-late 2000s. You had so many cheaply made cartoons with weird 'shock' humor for the sake of cheap laughs. Shows like Johnny Test, Penguins of Madagascar, and Fanboy & Chum Chum were notable examples. The innovative magic in the animation industry seemed to had disappear as networks were just concerned about profits and not much else. The quality of cartoons got better in the 2010s, but the variety of good cartoons also went downhill. The 90s & early 00s was the only time in modern animation when you had a perfect equilibrium of both quality cartoons and quantity of those same shows being played. As an example, when Rugrats and (to a somewhat lesser extent) the early seasons of Spongebob were on the air in the 90s & early 00s, despite them being Nickelodeon's main 'cash cows', the shows were never really played too much on the network. Thus, other Nicktoons on the network were also treated fairly in how much they aired, even the most obscure ones like Pelswick and Chalk Zone.


Yeah, the later part of the '00s is clearly when the golden age of '90s and early '00s animation was over. Even as a teenager during most of the early '00s, I could agree that most of the cartoons back then were still quite good, even if I wasn't watching cartoons as much as I had been earlier. Even up to like 2003 or so, there was still plenty of good animation out there. By the later part of the '00s it was quite clear that animation had taken a big hit, and I'm still not sure why it did.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 07/18/19 at 12:45 pm


Yeah, the later part of the '00s is clearly when the golden age of '90s and early '00s animation was over. Even as a teenager during most of the early '00s, I could agree that most of the cartoons back then were still quite good, even if I wasn't watching cartoons as much as I had been earlier. Even up to like 2003 or so, there was still plenty of good animation out there. By the later part of the '00s it was quite clear that animation had taken a big hit, and I'm still not sure why it did.


Trust me brother. I was young enough in the late 2000s to still technically be able to watch cartoons and the quality was certainly lacking. Even in shows that I admittedly weren't that into but I could still respect qualitative wise (shows like Chowder and FlapJack come to mind, which were on Cartoon Network), weren't given great respect by the executives of the networks they were airing on. Disney had Hannah Montana and High School Musical, while Nickelodeon had..... Spongebob, the main 'cash cows' of the Late 2000s, so all three tried to replicate each other on what was making the most money at that time; bland/unoriginal live action shows revolving around music & adolescence or cheaply made cartoons with (unfunny) jokes/tropes similar to Spongebob (particularly, post season 4 Spongebob), and occasionally a combination of both (horrid cartoons like 6teen and Total Drama Island come to mind 8-P). It truly was a dark age.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 07/18/19 at 6:52 pm


Yeah, the later part of the '00s is clearly when the golden age of '90s and early '00s animation was over. Even as a teenager during most of the early '00s, I could agree that most of the cartoons back then were still quite good, even if I wasn't watching cartoons as much as I had been earlier. Even up to like 2003 or so, there was still plenty of good animation out there. By the later part of the '00s it was quite clear that animation had taken a big hit, and I'm still not sure why it did.


I go to twitch streams with guys and girls who are older than me between 26-29 and despite the fact they were 10+ years old in 2002 or later, they agree that 2002, 2003, and even 2004 were still great years for cartoons on television and the variety that existed throughout the time. Almost everyone agrees that the mid 00's was the transitional phase and the late 00's is when it all crashed and burned, regardless of age.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 07/18/19 at 6:55 pm


Trust me brother. I was young enough in the late 2000s to still technically be able to watch cartoons and the quality was certainly lacking. Even in shows that I admittedly weren't that into but I could still respect qualitative wise (shows like Chowder and FlapJack come to mind, which were on Cartoon Network), weren't given great respect by the executives of the networks they were airing on. Disney had Hannah Montana and High School Musical, while Nickelodeon had..... Spongebob, the main 'cash cows' of the Late 2000s, so all three tried to replicate each other on what was making the most money at that time; bland/unoriginal live action shows revolving around music & adolescence or cheaply made cartoons with (unfunny) jokes/tropes similar to Spongebob (particularly, post season 4 Spongebob), and occasionally a combination of both (horrid cartoons like 6teen and Total Drama Island come to mind 8-P). It truly was a dark age.


Same, I was young enough to enjoy Phineas & Ferb and Total Drama Island (and I know you hated that show lol but it's just preference for me). My favorite late 00's shows, but by that time period it was really hard to find good cartoons consistently throughout the schedule. Shows on networks' schedules got repetitive (like Spongebob on Nick or Johnny Test on CN) with a chunk of those being mediocre, and all the good cartoons had ended or were taken off the air. It's crazy how I didn't like 2006 much for CN or Disney, but I'd still take those years any day over 2008 or 2009.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 07/26/19 at 9:26 am

Interesting analysis about Spongebob:


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What do you guys think?

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 07/26/19 at 9:38 am

Make sure you guys also check out this thread:

http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=60079.0

Pretty interesting topic, started by @sonic2005  ;).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 01/22/20 at 11:40 pm

I'm gonna have to take back some of my previous posts about Nick declining. Nick never declined, it just changed. Like SNL it's changed so many times, millions of times, and people who grew up with one particular version think that's the only good one.

It's funny, I was looking at some Youtube videos of Golden Age Nick more recently and thought to myself "Wow, this is a completely different universe from the 98-05 Nick I grew up with (minus some reruns), it's so analog." No wonder Old Millennials were already getting weepy-eyed over this stuff by 1999, because things changed so much in just 7 years, it's unbelievable. Lol.

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Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Sman12 on 01/23/20 at 4:08 pm

I'm not proud when I say this, but I mainly grew up with the Dark Ages of both Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network in the late 2000s. Looking back at these recordings from the early 90s up to 2005 kinda makes me sad that I didn't witness Spongebob in its prime, or see the CN Powerhouse/City eras (I can remember some City promos from early 2006, but not much).

At least I really liked Chowder, Flapjack, and the Penguins of Madagascar. Never really liked the Mighty B!, and Johnny Test was god-awful.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 01/23/20 at 4:25 pm


I'm not proud when I say this, but I mainly grew up with the Dark Ages of both Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network in the late 2000s. Looking back at these recordings from the early 90s up to 2005 kinda makes me sad that I didn't witness Spongebob in its prime, or see the CN Powerhouse/City eras (I can remember some City promos from early 2006, but not much).

At least I really liked Chowder, Flapjack, and the Penguins of Madagascar. Never really liked the Mighty B!, and Johnny Test was god-awful.

I still watched CN during its "dark age" with my brother and sister at the time, and there were still good shows despite the decline. I liked Chowder, Flapjack, Total Drama Island (sorry Zelda), and Secret Saturdays.

It's not a big deal because now people your age dominate the Internet, and late 2000s CN/Nick is now beloved on Youtube, so you have plenty of people to join in with your experience.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Sman12 on 01/23/20 at 4:31 pm


I still watched CN during its "dark age" with my brother and sister at the time, and there were still good shows despite the decline. I liked Chowder, Flapjack, Total Drama Island (sorry Zelda), and Secret Saturdays.

It's not a big deal because now people your age dominate the Internet, and late 2000s CN/Nick is now beloved on Youtube, so you have plenty of people to join in with your experience.

Well, that's a bit comforting.  :)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: 2001 on 01/23/20 at 4:57 pm


I still watched CN during its "dark age" with my brother and sister at the time, and there were still good shows despite the decline. I liked Chowder, Flapjack, Total Drama Island (sorry Zelda), and Secret Saturdays.

It's not a big deal because now people your age dominate the Internet, and late 2000s CN/Nick is now beloved on Youtube, so you have plenty of people to join in with your experience.


On top of that, I bet most good late '90s/early 2000s cartoons were still shown on reruns (and the horrible ones not ;D).

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 01/24/20 at 10:24 am


On top of that, I bet most good late '90s/early 2000s cartoons were still shown on reruns (and the horrible ones not ;D).

Cartoon Network aired reruns of all the late '90s and early '00s cartoons until 2007-2009.

Also, some of the late '90s/early '00s cartoons had new episodes until later in the 2000s.

The Powerpuff Girls ended in 2005. Ed, Edd, n Eddy ended in 2009. Johnny Bravo ended in 2004. Codename: Kids Next Door ended in 2008.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: shadowcookie on 01/24/20 at 11:28 am


Cartoon Network aired reruns of all the late '90s and early '00s cartoons until 2007-2009.

Also, some of the late '90s/early '00s cartoons had new episodes until later in the 2000s.

The Powerpuff Girls ended in 2005. Ed, Edd, n Eddy ended in 2009. Johnny Bravo ended in 2004. Codename: Kids Next Door ended in 2008.

It’s kinda like Spongebob though - it wasn’t the same post-movie.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 01/24/20 at 2:22 pm


It’s kinda like Spongebob though - it wasn’t the same post-movie.

What wasn't the same? ???

All of the shows I mentioned had pretty much the same quality throughout.

Also, like I said, other shows like Courage the Cowardly Dog, Dexter's Lab, Cow & Chicken, etc all had reruns until 2007-2009 on Cartoon Network itself. Additionally, there were reruns on Boomerang until 2015.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: shadowcookie on 01/24/20 at 3:44 pm


What wasn't the same? ???

All of the shows I mentioned had pretty much the same quality throughout.

Also, like I said, other shows like Courage the Cowardly Dog, Dexter's Lab, Cow & Chicken, etc all had reruns until 2007-2009 on Cartoon Network itself. Additionally, there were reruns on Boomerang until 2015.

If you think the quality was the same then fine but most people probably wouldn’t agree. Spongebob was definitely not as good after the movie and I’d hazard a guess that Ed Edd n Eddy was probably not as good in its later seasons either. Most shows get worse the longer they’re on TV as the creators run out of ideas. The Simpsons is probably the best example of that.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Sman12 on 01/24/20 at 5:05 pm


What wasn't the same? ???

All of the shows I mentioned had pretty much the same quality throughout.

Also, like I said, other shows like Courage the Cowardly Dog, Dexter's Lab, Cow & Chicken, etc all had reruns until 2007-2009 on Cartoon Network itself. Additionally, there were reruns on Boomerang until 2015.

The later seasons (season 4-5) of the Powerpuff Girls weren't as good as the previous ones and the last season of Dexter's was really bad as it was under a new creator.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 01/24/20 at 7:27 pm


If you think the quality was the same then fine but most people probably wouldn’t agree. Spongebob was definitely not as good after the movie and I’d hazard a guess that Ed Edd n Eddy was probably not as good in its later seasons either. Most shows get worse the longer they’re on TV as the creators run out of ideas. The Simpsons is probably the best example of that.

I said the shows I mentioned. I wasn't talking about Spongebob or The Simpsons.

The Powerpuff Girls remained fairly consistent in quality. Ed, Edd n Eddy remained fairly consistent. Johnny Bravo remained fairly consistent. Codename: Kids Next Door also remained fairly consistent.

Additionally, like I said, reruns of those shows (and other late '90s/early '00s shows) were aired on Cartoon Network until the late 2000s. They didn't just air the later episodes either.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 01/25/20 at 8:22 am

As somebody who watched Nick through the entire '90s, I didn't notice this difference from 1998 or even 1999 to previous years. Maybe it's because I was still a kid then, but I didn't notice the first big change to Nick until 2000 when they introduced a whole new promo style, and even then it wasn't that different from what I knew. I watched Nick fairly regularly until about 2002 and it didn't seem that different from the peak of the Golden Age.

Particularly if you look back at 1998, my two favorite Nicktoons, Rugrats and Hey Arnold, were still making new shows, and the other iconic Nicktoons of that era that had been cancelled were still airing consistently on the network. The Wild Thornberrys premiered that year and was also very popular too. Even very dated sitcoms like Hey Dude still aired often. Kenan and Kel, which I consider the greatest Nick sitcom ever, was also still airing then too.

Even if you look at 2000, which had some notable changes, you still had new shows like As Told By Ginger, which to me has a Golden Age vibe to it. Spongebob had obviously premiered by then, but it didn't dominate the channel quite as much as it would a few years later. I would say that it wasn't until 2003 that Nick felt like a very different channel than it had when I was a kid, and not until the late '00s that I couldn't relate to it anymore whatsoever.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Sman12 on 01/25/20 at 9:10 am

I think Nickelodeon, throughout their history, changes their on-air channel branding and graphics to reflect on the societal trends that children were/are into.

Like late 90s/early 2000s Nick having the Snick House music video playlists with teen pop stars like Britney Spears or Mandy Moore or late 2010s Nick with the social media-pandering commercials.

I guess they're just marketing to children that way.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 01/25/20 at 10:02 am


I said the shows I mentioned. I wasn't talking about Spongebob or The Simpsons.

The Powerpuff Girls remained fairly consistent in quality. Ed, Edd n Eddy remained fairly consistent. Johnny Bravo remained fairly consistent. Codename: Kids Next Door also remained fairly consistent.

Additionally, like I said, reruns of those shows (and other late '90s/early '00s shows) were aired on Cartoon Network until the late 2000s. They didn't just air the later episodes either.


Of the shows you mentioned, I agree with Ed, Edd n Eddy and Codename: KND staying consistent (despite what some ppl might say), but I completely disagree with Powerpuff Girls and Johnny Bravo staying consistent. Now as a KID watching those shows, I didn't care, but growing older over the years and watching those again, the dip in quality was obvious.

Let me start with the positive. Ed, Edd n Eddy, now ppl have always had mixed opinions about the show from start to finish. The best episodes were the ones that took place around the Cu-De-Sac & neighborhood outdoors, but the later episodes that took place in school were still good. Compared to other Cartoon Cartoons, Ed, Edd n Eddy still held up for the entire series, which is why it was the longest lasting Cartoon Cartoon for a reason, and there's no surprise about that. With Codename: KND, the series stayed consistent. You either enjoyed all of Codename: KND or you hated it. If you hated Codename: KND, you hated the whole series, if you loved Codename: KND, you loved the whole series, that's just from my memories of the show.

Now let's get to where I disagree. Johnny Bravo and Powerpuff Girls. Johnny Bravo was only good in season 1, yeah I said it. There were still plenty of funny episodes from seasons 2 up until the last season, but really when I think about it now, when Van Partible (the creator) was working on the show throughout season 1, that's when the episodes were top notch quality. Van Partible also did the Johnny Bravo Christmas special and the Johnny Bravo Valentines special and those held up just as much as the season 1 episodes. What I really hated about the middle seasons of Johnny Bravo is how watered down the plots were and how they made Johnny Bravo a more stupid and obnoxious character, and Carl was such an annoying character. When Van Partible came back for the last season in 2004, Carl was barely on there and I don't blame him.

Powerpuff Girls best episodes were without question the first 4 seasons up until the movie (that flopped in theaters), kinda like Spongebob Squarepants in a way. Seasons 1-3 (1998-2001) were the best episodes in quality, and season 4 was okay but still pretty decent. Seasons 5 & 6 of Powerpuff Girls dropped in quality. The only good episodes of seasons 5 & 6 were the ones that had the Rowdyruff Boys in there, and I also enjoyed the episode when Sedusa returned, but the majority of the season 5 & 6 Powerpuff Girls episodes were weak.

The same can be said with Dexter's Laboratory too. The first 2 seasons with the original character design and the original voice actors were amazing. Dexter's Lab should have ended with the Ego Trip movie, but since reruns were extremely popular, it came back for seasons 3 & 4, but seasons 3 & 4 the plots got weaker the voice actors changed and the character designs/animation changed.

As we all know when it comes to all kinds of TV shows, it's hard for it to stay consistently good in quality. TV shows eventually run out of ideas after several seasons. That's the biggest challenge for writers and producers, keeping the quality consistent, and IMO of all the Cartoon Network series, Ed Edd n Eddy was the BEST at this, even better than Codename: KND.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 01/25/20 at 10:53 am


I still watched CN during its "dark age" with my brother and sister at the time, and there were still good shows despite the decline. I liked Chowder, Flapjack, Total Drama Island (sorry Zelda), and Secret Saturdays.

It's not a big deal because now people your age dominate the Internet, and late 2000s CN/Nick is now beloved on Youtube, so you have plenty of people to join in with your experience.


I thought Chowder was pretty decent. I always hated Flapjack. Total Drama Island was really good, I liked Action and World Tour as well. My favorite period for Cartoon Network past my peak years were 2010-2014, but I thought 2012 was the best year.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: mqg96 on 01/25/20 at 10:56 am


What wasn't the same? ???

All of the shows I mentioned had pretty much the same quality throughout.

Also, like I said, other shows like Courage the Cowardly Dog, Dexter's Lab, Cow & Chicken, etc all had reruns until 2007-2009 on Cartoon Network itself. Additionally, there were reruns on Boomerang until 2015.


Courage The Cowardly Dog had a lot of reruns on Cartoon Network throughout 2006 & 2007, it was actually on the Fridays block too (I clearly remember).

Dexter's Lab and Cow & Chicken I don't remember on CN at all in 2006 or 2007 unless segments were shown on CC Show or CN Top 5.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 01/25/20 at 11:12 am


Of the shows you mentioned, I agree with Ed, Edd n Eddy and Codename: KND staying consistent (despite what some ppl might say), but I completely disagree with Powerpuff Girls and Johnny Bravo staying consistent. Now as a KID watching those shows, I didn't care, but growing older over the years and watching those again, the dip in quality was obvious.

Let me start with the positive. Ed, Edd n Eddy, now ppl have always had mixed opinions about the show from start to finish. The best episodes were the ones that took place around the Cu-De-Sac & neighborhood outdoors, but the later episodes that took place in school were still good. Compared to other Cartoon Cartoons, Ed, Edd n Eddy still held up for the entire series, which is why it was the longest lasting Cartoon Cartoon for a reason, and there's no surprise about that. With Codename: KND, the series stayed consistent. You either enjoyed all of Codename: KND or you hated it. If you hated Codename: KND, you hated the whole series, if you loved Codename: KND, you loved the whole series, that's just from my memories of the show.

Now let's get to where I disagree. Johnny Bravo and Powerpuff Girls. Johnny Bravo was only good in season 1, yeah I said it. There were still plenty of funny episodes from seasons 2 up until the last season, but really when I think about it now, when Van Partible (the creator) was working on the show throughout season 1, that's when the episodes were top notch quality. Van Partible also did the Johnny Bravo Christmas special and the Johnny Bravo Valentines special and those held up just as much as the season 1 episodes. What I really hated about the middle seasons of Johnny Bravo is how watered down the plots were and how they made Johnny Bravo a more stupid and obnoxious character, and Carl was such an annoying character. When Van Partible came back for the last season in 2004, Carl was barely on there and I don't blame him.

Powerpuff Girls best episodes were without question the first 4 seasons up until the movie (that flopped in theaters), kinda like Spongebob Squarepants in a way. Seasons 1-3 (1998-2001) were the best episodes in quality, and season 4 was okay but still pretty decent. Seasons 5 & 6 of Powerpuff Girls dropped in quality. The only good episodes of seasons 5 & 6 were the ones that had the Rowdyruff Boys in there, and I also enjoyed the episode when Sedusa returned, but the majority of the season 5 & 6 Powerpuff Girls episodes were weak.

The same can be said with Dexter's Laboratory too. The first 2 seasons with the original character design and the original voice actors were amazing. Dexter's Lab should have ended with the Ego Trip movie, but since reruns were extremely popular, it came back for seasons 3 & 4, but seasons 3 & 4 the plots got weaker the voice actors changed and the character designs/animation changed.

As we all know when it comes to all kinds of TV shows, it's hard for it to stay consistently good in quality. TV shows eventually run out of ideas after several seasons. That's the biggest challenge for writers and producers, keeping the quality consistent, and IMO of all the Cartoon Network series, Ed Edd n Eddy was the BEST at this, even better than Codename: KND.

That's a fair assessment.


Courage The Cowardly Dog had a lot of reruns on Cartoon Network throughout 2006 & 2007, it was actually on the Fridays block too (I clearly remember).

Dexter's Lab and Cow & Chicken I don't remember on CN at all in 2006 or 2007 unless segments were shown on CC Show or CN Top 5.

Yep, you're right O0

They also aired reruns of Courage during the early part of the Noods era (2008-2010).

Dexter's Lab and Cow & Chicken were paired mostly on CN Top 5 or the Cartoon Cartoon Show like you said.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: shadowcookie on 01/25/20 at 2:12 pm


I said the shows I mentioned. I wasn't talking about Spongebob or The Simpsons.

The Powerpuff Girls remained fairly consistent in quality. Ed, Edd n Eddy remained fairly consistent. Johnny Bravo remained fairly consistent. Codename: Kids Next Door also remained fairly consistent.

Additionally, like I said, reruns of those shows (and other late '90s/early '00s shows) were aired on Cartoon Network until the late 2000s. They didn't just air the later episodes either.

I was just using them as an example, but I think mgq96 summed it up pretty well.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: Zelek3 on 01/26/20 at 2:43 am


I thought Chowder was pretty decent. I always hated Flapjack. Total Drama Island was really good, I liked Action and World Tour as well. My favorite period for Cartoon Network past my peak years were 2010-2014, but I thought 2012 was the best year.

2010-2014 CN seems to be one of those cases of "You don't realize what you had till it's gone". During that time, people on the internet were mostly still complaining about how they missed 1997-2004 CN and didn't give the new shows a chance purely because they weren't the Powerhouse era, or even CN City.

And then along comes 2015+ CN with the endless TTGO reruns and bad reboots, and people who complained beforehand are like "Oh no... I should've given 2010-2014 CN a chance." Lol

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: GeekyAlgorithm on 01/31/20 at 3:40 pm

Oh man, this era. This was actually the Bronze Age, according to several on the Net. I was a fan of SpongeBob, Invader Zim, ChalkZone, Rocko's Modern Life, Ren and Stimpy, CatDog, The Angry Beavers, Aaaah Real Monsters, and Rugrats. One of the few cartoon songs I can sing word for word (besides the FUN song from SpongeBob) is the song from that episode of Rocko where he went to visit his uncle, who was a cowboy. (For those of you who forgot which song I'm talking about, look up "Rocko the Wallaby of the West.")

Also? As Told By Ginger was pretty boring. But I still liked it? And I hated The Fairly Odd Parents...

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 01/31/20 at 3:48 pm


Oh man, this era. This was actually the Bronze Age, according to several on the Net. I was a fan of SpongeBob, Invader Zim, ChalkZone, Rocko's Modern Life, Ren and Stimpy, CatDog, The Angry Beavers, Aaaah Real Monsters, and Rugrats. One of the few cartoon songs I can sing word for word (besides the FUN song from SpongeBob) is the song from that episode of Rocko where he went to visit his uncle, who was a cowboy. (For those of you who forgot which song I'm talking about, look up "Rocko the Wallaby of the West.")

Also? As Told By Ginger was pretty boring. But I still liked it? And I hated The Fairly Odd Parents...

You didn't like the Fairly Odd Parents (the earlier seasons)? :o

Also, if you don't mind answering, what year were you born? :)

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: GeekyAlgorithm on 01/31/20 at 3:50 pm

I just never got into it. And '96.

Subject: Re: Silver Age Nick (2000-2004/5) thread

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 01/31/20 at 3:50 pm


I just never got into it. And '96.

Thanks for answering! O0

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