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Subject: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/19/17 at 2:32 pm

As a 95er, it bothers me that people act like 2004-2006 never existed. Some people seem to think the 00s were all about AIM and Discmans(early 00s). Other people seem to think the 00s were all about Twitter and Soulja Boy(late 00s).

But they never acknowledge the period in the middle where everything was transitioning between the two styles, and everything was so perfectly imperfect. >:(

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/19/17 at 3:18 pm

Well to be fair, AOL and AIM were still popular during the mid 2000s. Especially when they still had double-digit (million) subscribers until 2007.

https://qzprod.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/aol-subscribers-subscribers_chartbuilder.png?w=640

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/19/17 at 4:19 pm

I'm a 95er too and yeah I don't like how people act like the mid 00s never existed. It is a very different and distinct era from the early 2000s. You had a lot of cool stuff come out in the mid 00s. I'm sure in a couple of years the mid 00s will be looked back as classic the same way the early 00s did. I think it may just be a little too early. But a huge part of my childhood and pre teen years came from the mid 00s.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/19/17 at 4:21 pm


Well to be fair, AOL and AIM were still popular during the mid 2000s. Especially when they still had double-digit (million) subscribers until 2007.

Statistics don't tell the whole story. The fact is AOL and AIM are early 00s things and people didn't really talk about it much after that (even if they still had it)

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/19/17 at 4:21 pm

Some just only care for the early 2000s due to it now reaching somewhat of a nostalgic status. And some only recognize the late 2000s due to it being when the elements of 2010s culture was beginning in. But the mid 2000s did have its share of recognizable things in it. Now I prefer to forget 2006 due to how boring it was compared to other years, but 2004 and 2005 do have their set of cool things.

As for AOL Dial up more people still had that in 2004 than those who had Broadband. And in 2005 broadband took over, but it was only slightly bigger than Dial up in terms of use.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/19/17 at 4:26 pm


I prefer to forget 2006 due to how boring it was compared to other years, but 2004 and 2005 do have their set of cool things.


Also 2003 and 2007 I associate with the mid 00s too (and part of the first half of 2008). The mid 00s are pretty much the core 2000s, although the early 2000s really describe the decade the most for me.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/19/17 at 4:31 pm


Statistics don't tell the whole story. The fact is AOL and AIM are early 00s things and people didn't really talk about it much after that (even if they still had it)


Even though a reasonable amount of people still had AIM throughout the mid 2000s. Even if it was on a broadband connection, people still had it for a bit while. It's not like everybody quit using AOL suddenly in 2004, and just used regular Internet like everybody else now. It took a slow process, man.


Also 2003 and 2007 I associate with the mid 00s too (and part of the first half of 2008). The mid 00s are pretty much the core 2000s, although the early 2000s really describe the decade the most for me.


Usually, people do see it like that. Hell, even I have to agree since I didn't use the modern Internet until mid 2007 (when I discovered YouTube).


Some just only care for the early 2000s due to it now reaching somewhat of a nostalgic status. And some only recognize the late 2000s due to it being when the elements of 2010s culture was beginning in. But the mid 2000s did have its share of recognizable things in it. Now I prefer to forget 2006 due to how boring it was compared to other years, but 2004 and 2005 do have their set of cool things.

As for AOL Dial up more people still had that in 2004 than those who had Broadband. And in 2005 broadband took over, but it was only slightly bigger than Dial up in terms of use.


As much as I have to say it, 2006 is like an extension to 2005.  :P

Also please don't say that YouTube was more popular in 2006, and doesn't make it the same towards 2005. Especially when you're Slim95.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/19/17 at 4:54 pm


Even though a reasonable amount of people still had AIM throughout the mid 2000s. Even if it was on a broadband connection, people still had it for a bit while. It's not like everybody quit using AOL suddenly in 2004, and just used regular Internet like everybody else now. It took a slow process, man.

Also please don't say that YouTube was more popular in 2006, and doesn't make it the same towards 2005. Especially when you're Slim95.

Like I said, even if people still used it it wasn't the all the talk anymore. It was just standard and it wasn't as a big deal as it was in the early 00s as new technologies started coming out.

I don't have to say it if it is a fact?  ??? YouTube was more popular in 2006 than 2005, you can look at statistics to tell you that. Everybody I knew started going on YouTube in 2006. You're the only one I know on here and in real life who hasn't heard of YouTube in 2006 (maybe because you were only 7).

And there really were no "extension years" in the 00s. Every year felt slightly different than the one prior to it because the decade was so full of rapid changes that were constantly occurring.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/19/17 at 5:16 pm


I don't have to say it if it is a fact?  ??? YouTube was more popular in 2006 than 2005, you can look at statistics to tell you that. Everybody I knew started going on YouTube in 2006. You're the only one I know on here and in real life who hasn't heard of YouTube in 2006 (maybe because you were only 7).


There could be other people in real life that didn't went on YouTube until the late 2000s. I just saw nobody tell me about it until 2007.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: mqg96 on 02/19/17 at 5:29 pm

Anyone wanna check out the first Youtube account I ever had? Here it is! All of my activity was between early 2007 and mid 2008 before I came up with the "mqg96" username.

Home: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvYEznvzRNlo939DfhqRkVw/

Date: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvYEznvzRNlo939DfhqRkVw/about

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: 80sfan on 02/19/17 at 6:01 pm

Technically, the mid-00's was May 2003 to August 2006.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/19/17 at 6:04 pm


Anyone wanna check out the first Youtube account I ever had? Here it is! All of my activity was between early 2007 and mid 2008 before I came up with the "mqg96" username.

Home: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvYEznvzRNlo939DfhqRkVw/

Date: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvYEznvzRNlo939DfhqRkVw/about


Man, even in 2007 and 2008 it showed your true colors.

Since I think everyone's showing their previous YT channels, I think maybe I should too.

Home: https://www.youtube.com/user/Michaelyar/featured

Playlists: https://www.youtube.com/user/Michaelyar/playlists

Date: https://www.youtube.com/user/Michaelyar/about

I used that account from May to December of 2009, before I closed it and made a new one momentarily. I reopened the "M.Y." account a few months later. To this day, it's the only account aside from my current one that isn't closed.  :P

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: mxcrashxm on 02/19/17 at 6:35 pm


Anyone wanna check out the first Youtube account I ever had? Here it is! All of my activity was between early 2007 and mid 2008 before I came up with the "mqg96" username.

Home: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvYEznvzRNlo939DfhqRkVw/

Date: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvYEznvzRNlo939DfhqRkVw/about
Did you make any videos at that time?

Oh, and  I went on your current one. it stated that it was banned due to copyright. You don't seem like someone whos account would get deleted because of that.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: mqg96 on 02/19/17 at 6:39 pm


I used that account from May to December of 2009, before I closed it and made a new one momentarily. I reopened the "M.Y." account a few months later. To this day, it's the only account aside from my current one that isn't closed.  :P


My 2nd account "mqg96" was shutdown back in October 2010 due to copyright strikes on my videos. I used to upload all kinds of craziness on my previous YT account carelessly. I recorded a bunch of MKDS wi-fi, Need for Speed Underground 2, and GTA San Andreas videos on there as well. I used to get on MKWii forums with one of my old accounts and trade in friend codes with users online and do races. It was real fun back then.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/19/17 at 6:41 pm


My 2nd account "mqg96" was shutdown back in October 2010 due to copyright strikes on my videos. I used to upload all kinds of craziness on my previous YT account carelessly. I recorded a bunch of MKDS wi-fi, Need for Speed Underground 2, and GTA San Andreas videos on there as well. I used to get on MKWii forums with one of my old accounts and trade in friend codes with users online and do races. It was real fun back then.


I used to love playing MKWii back in the late 2000s, but I haven't played it ever since 2010 or 2011. I did play online though, but it was a pain in the ass to get through the servers.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: mqg96 on 02/19/17 at 6:45 pm


Did you make any videos at that time?

Oh, and  I went on your current one. it stated that it was banned due to copyright. You don't seem like someone whos account would get deleted because of that.


Oh I was just posting about my story with NYEagle. I was young and immature back then especially if you would've seen my comments. Even though it seems like my taste in things have never changed. You can see my first favorite ever was a UGA football spring 2008 video only because I didn't know about favoriting or liking videos my entire first year on YouTube.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: 2001 on 02/19/17 at 8:15 pm

Soulja Boy defines the decade pretty well though. It was like a natural culmination.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: 80sfan on 02/19/17 at 9:32 pm


Soulja Boy defines the decade pretty well though. It was like a natural culmination.


You wanna get high?? Just kidding!

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 02/19/17 at 9:37 pm


Date: https://www.youtube.com/user/Michaelyar/about

I used that account from May to December of 2009, before I closed it and made a new one momentarily. I reopened the "M.Y." account a few months later. To this day, it's the only account aside from my current one that isn't closed.  :P


It's hard to believe that you were only 9 years old when you created your first account! The only thing I used to do on the internet when I was 9 years old, was looking at random Wikipedia pages and googling the medal tally of the 2008 Beijing Olympics. :P

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/19/17 at 9:55 pm


Like I said, even if people still used it it wasn't the all the talk anymore. It was just standard and it wasn't as a big deal as it was in the early 00s as new technologies started coming out.

I don't have to say it if it is a fact?  ??? YouTube was more popular in 2006 than 2005, you can look at statistics to tell you that. Everybody I knew started going on YouTube in 2006. You're the only one I know on here and in real life who hasn't heard of YouTube in 2006 (maybe because you were only 7).

And there really were no "extension years" in the 00s. Every year felt slightly different than the one prior to it because the decade was so full of rapid changes that were constantly occurring.

YouTube was already big in 2006, no denying that. However, I still think January-August 2006 counts as mid 2000s, they still had a heavy mid 00s vibe, even though YouTube was popular throughout all of 06. But YouTube being popular doesn't negate 06's mid 00s status, imo.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/20/17 at 9:15 am


Oh I was just posting about my story with NYEagle. I was young and immature back then especially if you would've seen my comments. Even though it seems like my taste in things have never changed. You can see my first favorite ever was a UGA football spring 2008 video only because I didn't know about favoriting or liking videos my entire first year on YouTube.


If you were to see my old late 2000s youtube comments you'd easily be able to tell that I was one of those "wannbe hip/edgy teenagers". The type of toxic youtube comments that I hate today or the same comments that I used to me. Looking back I can see that I was very much into the trends of old youtube. Making old videos using Windows Movie Maker and watching 4+ hours of Youtube Poop and cat videos. I was a mess.  Now fast forward a few years and now I'm slightly less of a mess.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: 80sfan on 02/20/17 at 12:42 pm


If you were to see my old late 2000s youtube comments you'd easily be able to tell that I was one of those "wannbe hip/edgy teenagers". The type of toxic youtube comments that I hate today or the same comments that I used to me. Looking back I can see that I was very much into the trends of old youtube. Making old videos using Windows Movie Maker and watching 4+ hours of Youtube Poop and cat videos. I was a mess.  Now fast forward a few years and now I'm slightly less of a mess.


I think a lot of people have trolled on Youtube!  :D  :D  :D

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: #Infinity on 02/20/17 at 1:46 pm

The real problem is that the term "early 2000s" so often swallows up everything around it, not just the entirety of the mid-2000s, but frequently 1999 as well. I've seen a lot of people here stretch the boundaries of early 2000s to the first half of 2004, since that's when not only a lot of their favorite kid culture ended, it's also when Friends and Frasier finally went off the air. On top of that, the consensus here is also that the late 2000s started relatively soon, in late 2006 (ironically their chronological boundary), due to that being when 7th generation consoles were fully released, new shows like 30 Rock, Dexter, and Heroes making their debuts; and YouTube and Facebook becoming more mainstream.

I would personally argue that the mid-2000s, while a little more fluid than other decade sub-eras, were culturally defined from about late 2003 through autumn 2006. These were the defining trends of the period:

http://images4.mtv.com/uri/mgid:file:docroot:mtv.com:/shared/promoimages/bands/l/lil_jon/photo_carousel/DSC_0025.JPG?width=316&height=210&enlarge=true&matte=true&matteColor=black&quality=0.85

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ArrestedDevelopment.jpg

https://www.mywilliamsburgdentist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Tooth-Gems.jpg

http://hairstylesweekly.com/images/2012/07/2013-Beachy-Wavy-Hairstyles-for-Guys.jpg

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51P4wE2s7TL.jpg

https://tcrf.net/images/thumb/1/16/Dance_Dance_Revolution_(PC)_Title.png/320px-Dance_Dance_Revolution_(PC)_Title.png

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/s-ciCFAaBwM/maxresdefault.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Hummer_H2_.jpg/280px-Hummer_H2_.jpg

https://amgamreviews.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/gamesg3.jpg

http://rightwingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/No-WMDs.jpg

https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_US/ipod/ipodclassic/mini_2gen.png

http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/the-oc-poster.jpg

http://img2.tvtome.com/i/u/c360eb91e0004e3bcee094b2d71bf738.jpg

http://is5.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Features/v4/a3/81/8b/a3818bc9-39b9-a852-18de-6714ed1069ae/mza_8400615516142638023.jpg/600x600bb-85.jpg

https://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/174047/lindsay-lohan-2004.jpg?w=736

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5339c933e4b02a4c9428989e/574f20681bbee0485a5c95ec/574f206886db43b347a43c8e/1464804610148/Chappelle's+Show.jpg?format=500w

https://holditnow.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/1245727114_1246034073.jpg

http://cdn.otterfeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/EMGNfilmmusic31.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/64/Movie_poster_Anchorman_The_Legend_of_Ron_Burgundy.jpghttps://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/512275P1Q5L.jpghttp://img.csfd.cz/files/images/user/profile/158/856/158856009_b35f66.jpghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3e/Wedding_crashers_poster.jpg

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41WBXYKEXKL.jpg

http://images.zap2it.com/assets/p186173_b_h3_ad/kim-possible.jpg

http://www.nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/TitansGO.jpg

http://www.projectcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Thats-So-Raven.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/DannyPhantomTitleCard.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/KNDLogo.png

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/grimadventures/images/0/06/The-grim-adventures-of-billy-and-mandy-44745.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120120152032

Aside from MySpace, it was a pre-social media world, but it was also a lot techier and glossier period than the 90s and early 2000s had been, with extravagant, often-hip hop-inspired opulence being the guiding force of most popular culture. The rise of Web 2.0 and other things in the late 2000s would soften this a bit, but it would be completely obliterated by the time the Great Recession took full effect.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/20/17 at 2:03 pm

Infinity! :) I haven't seen you in like a month, it's good to have you back. I really enjoy your in-depth pop culture historical analyses.


The real problem is that the term "early 2000s" so often swallows up everything around it, not just the entirety of the mid-2000s, but frequently 1999 as well.

http://images.zap2it.com/assets/p186173_b_h3_ad/kim-possible.jpg

http://www.nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/TitansGO.jpg

http://www.projectcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Thats-So-Raven.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/DannyPhantomTitleCard.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/KNDLogo.png

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/grimadventures/images/0/06/The-grim-adventures-of-billy-and-mandy-44745.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120120152032

Yeah, that is true, as I've elaborated on thousands of times before. :P For instance, most people would call these shows in your post "early 2000s shows", even though they had more time and popularity around 2004-2006.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/20/17 at 3:59 pm


YouTube was already big in 2006, no denying that. However, I still think January-August 2006 counts as mid 2000s, they still had a heavy mid 00s vibe, even though YouTube was popular throughout all of 06. But YouTube being popular doesn't negate 06's mid 00s status, imo.

Oh yeah I totally agree with you that 2006 is mid 00s. Heck I even think 2007 still had mid 00s culture. I feel like the popularity of Facebook and the start of electropop are what killed the mid 00s and brought on the late 00s/early 10s culture.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/20/17 at 4:28 pm


It's hard to believe that you were only 9 years old when you created your first account! The only thing I used to do on the internet when I was 9 years old, was looking at random Wikipedia pages and googling the medal tally of the 2008 Beijing Olympics. :P


I closed it nine days after my tenth birthday (I think).


Oh yeah I totally agree with you that 2006 is mid 00s. Heck I even think 2007 still had mid 00s culture. I feel like the popularity of Facebook and the start of electropop are what killed the mid 00s and brought on the late 00s/early 10s culture.


2003-2007 mostly had mid 2000s culture. Although, it depends on what people think about 2003 and 2007 together. For me, 2003 is a bit distant with the early 2000s, while 2007 (at least in the later months) was more late 2000s. Personally, I think the mid 2000s were from the 2004-05 to 2006-07 school years, while the late 2000s were from the 2007-08 to 2009-10 school years.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 02/20/17 at 6:05 pm


Also 2003 and 2007 I associate with the mid 00s too (and part of the first half of 2008). The mid 00s are pretty much the core 2000s, although the early 2000s really describe the decade the most for me.


Maybe its just me, but I always viewed 'core x decade' and 'mid x decade' as two different things, but generally speaking cross over each other (hence the confusion).

A decade's 'core' is simply just stating when the pop culture of that respective decade was at best represented (or in the case of the latter current/earlier future & vice versa of a decade's culture, the periods of decade transition, ie, Millennium Era being generally defined as the phasing out of 90's culture and the gradual start of 2000's culture). For instance when someone mentions core 80's culture you think of MTV, Ronald Reagan, The Early PC Boom, Michael Jackson, Back to The Future/other summer blockbusters, etc.

However, the 'mid' section of a decade is either the mathematical middle of a decade (ie, January xxx0 - April xxx3=Early, May xxx3 - August xxx6=Mid, September xxx6 - December xxx9=Late) or from a cultural standpoint what represented the center of a decade's culture. An example of this would be when someone mentions more specifically mid 80's culture you think of Post Video Game Crash, 84' Olympics in LA, Challenger Explosion, Launch of NES, etc.

So reverting back to the topic of this discussion, I generally see the 'core' 2000's as being from roughly Late 2003 through Mid 2008. In 10-15 years, when people have 'Noughties Nostalgia Parties' (you heard it here first ;)) the time period I laid out above would be seen as the main period of influence for various themes, give or take a year or two. The 'Mid' 2000's on the other hand is the cultural mid point of the decade in which I define as being from roughly Mid 2004 - Mid 2006, much smaller in scale and hence why there's a lack of awareness on the mid 2000's because the cultural period was much shorter.

To make things simpler I'll show you how the decade progressed using school years:

2000-2001: Millennium Era (Y2K Sub era); Early 2000's

2001-2002: Millennium Era (Post 9/11 Sub Era); Early 2000's

2002-2003: Millennium Era (Post 9/11 Sub Era); Early 2000's

2003-2004: Core 2000's (Post 9/11 Sub Era); Early 2000's

2004-2005: Core 2000's (Housing Bubble Sub Era); Mid 2000's

2005-2006: Core 2000's (Housing Bubble Sub Era); Mid 2000's

2006-2007: Core 2000's (Housing Bubble Sub Era); Late 2000's

2007-2008: Core 2000's (Great Recession Sub Era); Late 2000's

2008-2009: Electropop Era (Great Recession Sub Era); Late 2000's

2009-2010: Electropop Era (Great Recession Sub Era); Early 2010's

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: mxcrashxm on 02/20/17 at 8:38 pm

It's because some people believe that the early 00s lasted longer and then the late portion took over its place. Yeah, the mid 00s were unique, but they were connected to both eras in a way.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: SpyroKev on 02/21/17 at 5:31 pm

Happy to see another mid 2000s thread but, this question is already answered. The mid 2000s will have its time once Early 2000s nostalgia pass its peak. Even if its being skipped in favor of Late 2000s nostalgia at the moment, I really don't see 2005, especially 2004 being ignored.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/21/17 at 5:35 pm

Cause it's overshadowed by the early 00s(Late 2001-2003) and the late 00s(Late 2006-2008)... ::) ;D

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Shemp97 on 02/22/17 at 4:39 pm


As a 95er, it bothers me that people act like 2004-2006 never existed. Some people seem to think the 00s were all about AIM and Discmans(early 00s). Other people seem to think the 00s were all about Twitter and Soulja Boy(late 00s).

But they never acknowledge the period in the middle where everything was transitioning between the two styles, and everything was so perfectly imperfect. >:(

Twitter was never a thing in the late 00s. There are actually forum posts and surveys from 2009 that prove how obscure it was at the time.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/22/17 at 5:07 pm


Twitter was never a thing in the late 00s. There are actually forum posts and surveys from 2009 that prove how obscure it was at the time.

Twitter was big in 2009 though. Ever since around Michael Jackson's death Twitter was well known.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/22/17 at 6:07 pm


Twitter was big in 2009 though. Ever since around Michael Jackson's death Twitter was well known.


No. Just no. Just because it was there in 2009 when Michael Jackson's death happened, that doesn't mean it was the next big popular thing by then. NO one gave a f*ck about Twitter's popularity in the late 2000s, NOR did it gave a lot of attention towards the media. When hashtags happened in the early 2010s, that's when Twitter started to be as popular as YouTube, Facebook, etc. For the fact that you take this extremely seriously, it shouldn't be so. Yes, I haven't heard of Twitter until 2010, but that doesn't mean I find it to be popular until then.

Do we really need another goddamn argument about this? I almost quit visiting the site because of it. I get it. It's your well respected opinion. But for the fact that you keep forcing it towards everybody's mouths, including mine, it gets really f*cking pretentious. Every time I look at it, it makes me lose faith in this site. I didn't join this site just to hear somebody preach something about Twitter being popular in 2009, which isn't even a difference compared to the other late 2000s years. There isn't any other goddamn alternative towards this website, aside from the goddamn comments section on YouTube. That's how sad it is to hear something so minor that it doesn't even make any sense. It's like you're hiding secret codes with other people in this site, just so that you can hide something from anybody else.

Please. stop. No one likes to hear this sh*t anymore. Just stop with this. This makes me wanna get a chug full of BLEACH before I literally die of poison inside my F*CKING body!!!

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/22/17 at 6:10 pm


No. Just no. Just because it was there in 2009 when Michael Jackson's death happened, that doesn't mean it was the next big popular thing by then. NO one gave a f*ck about Twitter's popularity in the late 2000s, NOR did it gave a lot of attention towards the media. When hashtags happened in the early 2010s, that's when Twitter started to be as popular as YouTube, Facebook, etc. For the fact that you take this extremely seriously, it shouldn't be so. Yes, I haven't heard of Twitter until 2010, but that doesn't mean I find it to be popular until then.

Do we really need another goddamn argument about this? I almost quit visiting the site because of it. I get it. It's your well respected opinion. But for the fact that you keep forcing it towards everybody's mouths, including mine, it gets really f*cking pretentious. Every time I look at it, it makes me lose faith in this site. I didn't join this site just to hear somebody preach something about Twitter being popular in 2009, which isn't even a difference compared to the other late 2000s years. There isn't any other goddamn alternative towards this website, aside from the goddamn comments section on YouTube. That's how sad it is to hear something so minor that it doesn't even make any sense. It's like you're hiding secret codes with other people in this site, just so that you can hide something from anybody else.

Please. stop. No one likes to hear this sh*t anymore. Just stop with this. This makes me wanna get a chug full of BLEACH before I literally die of poison inside my F*CKING body!!!

Yes, just yes, it was. Many people knew about it, including some people from this forum. It was also well known to almost everyone I went to in my middle school. And it WAS well apperent in the media because they were talking about Twitter during his death. Not to mention that Twitter song in late 2009. You really need to chill out a bit. I wasn't even replying to you. Things like this really shouldn't offend you or make you lose faith. Calm down, you're the one escalating the issue. ::)

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/22/17 at 6:23 pm


Yes, just yes, it was. Many people knew about it, including some people from this forum. It was also well known to almost everyone I went to in my middle school. And it WAS well apperent in the media because they were talking about Twitter during his death. Not to mention that Twitter song in late 2009. You really need to chill out a bit. I wasn't even replying to you. Things like this really shouldn't offend you or make you lose faith. Calm down, you're the one escalating the issue. ::)


That doesn't mean the song had a Platinum record for mentioning Twitter on a song for the first time. It only got 30 million by 2009/2010, which wasn't even as big as Facebook back then.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/22/17 at 6:27 pm


That doesn't mean the song had a Platinum record for mentioning Twitter on a song for the first time. It only got 30 million by 2009/2010, which wasn't even as big as Facebook back then.

Okay but Twitter was still well known in 2009, that's my point.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/22/17 at 6:31 pm


Okay but Twitter was still well known in 2009, that's my point.


Maybe with a small amount of people, but not enough to grab the entire world's attention.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/22/17 at 6:33 pm


Maybe with a small amount of people, but not enough to grab the entire world's attention.

Well it didn't peak in 2009 obviously, it peaked like 2011 or whatever, but I'm pretty sure if you asked anyone what Twitter was in 2009 they would know. They may not have an account, but they would certainly know what it was from the media and from what's popular online. I clearly remember the level of relevance Twitter had in 09'.  :P

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/22/17 at 6:37 pm


Well it didn't peak in 2009 obviously, it peaked like 2011 or whatever, but I'm pretty sure if you asked anyone what Twitter was in 2009 they would know. They may not have an account, but they would certainly know what it was from the media and from what's popular online.


But you make it seem like they were at its peak in 2009, when it wasn't like that in the first place. The point was that Twitter wasn't popular as it is now during the late 2000s.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/22/17 at 6:41 pm


But you make it seem like they were at its peak in 2009, when it wasn't like that in the first place. The point was that Twitter wasn't popular as it is now during the late 2000s.

Nope, I never said it peaked in 2009. Nor did I ever say Twitter was as popular in 2009 as it is now. :)

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: mqg96 on 02/22/17 at 6:47 pm


But you make it seem like they were at its peak in 2009, when it wasn't like that in the first place. The point was that Twitter wasn't popular as it is now during the late 2000s.


Please don't bring up the Twitter conversation again  8-P

No matter how much we argue about it no ones opinions including mine will ever change about when Twitter got popular or peaked in our own definitions.

We've gotten over that a while ago.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: 2001 on 02/22/17 at 6:59 pm

Habbo Hotel was king in the early-mid 2000s (2002-2007) :D

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/22/17 at 7:05 pm


For instance, most people would call these shows in your post "early 2000s shows", even though they had more time and popularity around 2004-2006.

Ehh... Kim Possible was a hybrid of the early/mid 00s. Billy & Mandy and KND got their starts in the early 00s, but their peaks were in the mid 00s tho. ;)

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/22/17 at 7:10 pm


Please don't bring up the Twitter conversation again  8-P

No matter how much we argue about it no ones opinions including mine will ever change about when Twitter got popular or peaked in our own definitions.

We've gotten over that a while ago.


Well, I didn't want to revive that argument. The only thing about it is that I can't stand it with something so minor within this site. Especially when I joined this site for NOSTALGIA purposes.


Ehh... Kim Possible was a hybrid of the early/mid 00s. Billy & Mandy and KND got their starts in the early 00s, but their peaks were in the mid 00s tho. ;)


Most golden age Disney Channel shows had their peaks in either the early-mid 2000s.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: 80sfan on 02/22/17 at 8:41 pm

What about current events? Did the Iraq War start the mid-00's?

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: mqg96 on 02/22/17 at 8:49 pm


Most golden age Disney Channel shows had their peaks in either the early-mid 2000s.


Even Stevens and Lizzie McGuire clearly peaked in the early 2000's. The Proud Family and Kim Possible were early-mid 00's hybrid but The Proud Family leans towards early while Kim Possible leans towards mid. Although, you take out the revived 2007 season of Kim Possible then it would be completely even. The rest of the golden age Disney Channel shows peaked in the mid 2000's.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: 80sfan on 02/22/17 at 9:29 pm

Lizzy McGuire was pretty popular in 2003 and 2004. It faded by 2005.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: 2001 on 02/22/17 at 9:44 pm


Lizzy McGuire was pretty popular in 2003 and 2004. It faded by 2005.


My friend got bullied for liking Hillary Duff in late 2003/early 2004. The movie came out mid-2003, that was probably her peak ;D

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: 80sfan on 02/22/17 at 9:46 pm


My friend got bullied for liking Hillary Duff in late 2003/early 2004. The movie came out mid-2003, that was probably her peak ;D


You don't mess with the Duff!  8)  8)

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 02/23/17 at 9:41 am


What about current events? Did the Iraq War start the mid-00's?


I would say the backlash against the Iraq War was what truly started the mid 2000's, so roughly 2004. For most of 2003, most Americans were in support of the war since we were still riding that Post 9/11 Patriotism Wave.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 02/23/17 at 9:42 am


Even Stevens and Lizzie McGuire clearly peaked in the early 2000's. The Proud Family and Kim Possible were early-mid 00's hybrid but The Proud Family leans towards early while Kim Possible leans towards mid. Although, you take out the revived 2007 season of Kim Possible then it would be completely even. The rest of the golden age Disney Channel shows peaked in the mid 2000's.


The Zoog Disney Era was a Early 2000's (and late 90's) thing. The Latter Golden Age from Late 2002-2005/6 was primarily mid 2000's

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/23/17 at 9:58 am


What about current events? Did the Iraq War start the mid-00's?


Eh... Shouldn't we just separate current events with pop culture within decades?

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 02/23/17 at 12:28 pm


I would say the backlash against the Iraq War was what truly started the mid 2000's, so roughly 2004. For most of 2003, most Americans were in support of the war since we were still riding that Post 9/11 Patriotism Wave.


Yeah, the mid '00s are definitely their own unique era from a political standpoint. For the most part, George W. Bush was extremely popular throughout the early '00s (his job approval rating stayed above 60% from September 2001 until late 2003), but that started to change rapidly in the mid '00s. His approval rating dropped below 50% in a Gallup poll for the first time in early 2004 and, even though he did win the election that year, he beat John Kerry by a much narrower margin than most people would've predicted a year earlier. It was all downhill after that, though.

When I think mid '00s politics, I think the botched reaction to Hurricane Katrina, Dick Cheney shooting that dude in the face, Scooter Libby getting indicted in the CIA Leak case, the Harriet Miers fiasco, Keith Olbermann destroying Bush on a daily basis with his "commentaries" Jack Abrhamoff and the lobbying scandal, the Mark Foley sex scandal, Iraq getting increasingly worse, and the Republicans losing Congress in the 2006 elections as the country began to shift leftward. Certainly a very different vibe than the early '00s where Bush could do no wrong, and the late '00s which were largely about the rise of Barack Obama to the presidency.

As to the question of why the mid '00s get overlooked, my theory is that we're in a period right now where the early '00s have just gotten to a point where they've starting being "nostalgic", while the late '00s are still recent enough that they're still the cool thing to hate on at the moment and claim that was when everything "went downhill", so the mid '00s sort of get lost in the shuffle. A similar thing actually happened around the time I first joined this website with the mid '90s getting overlooked, where people had just started getting nostalgic for the early '90s, and the late '90s were still getting a lot of hate.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/23/17 at 12:49 pm

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As to the question of why the mid '00s get overlooked, my theory is that we're in a period right now where the early '00s have just gotten to a point where they've starting being "nostalgic", while the late '00s are still recent enough that they're still the cool thing to hate on at the moment and claim that was when everything "went downhill", so the mid '00s sort of get lost in the shuffle. A similar thing actually happened around the time I first joined this website with the mid '90s getting overlooked, where people had just started getting nostalgic for the early '90s, and the late '90s were still getting a lot of hate.

A couple more years and the mid 00s will be classic.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/23/17 at 12:55 pm


As to the question of why the mid '00s get overlooked, my theory is that we're in a period right now where the early '00s have just gotten to a point where they've starting being "nostalgic", while the late '00s are still recent enough that they're still the cool thing to hate on at the moment and claim that was when everything "went downhill", so the mid '00s sort of get lost in the shuffle. A similar thing actually happened around the time I first joined this website with the mid '90s getting overlooked, where people had just started getting nostalgic for the early '90s, and the late '90s were still getting a lot of hate.

Another factor, I believe, is that as I've mentioned before, people on sites like Facebook or Buzzfeed tend to lump 2004-2006 into their "early 2000s" definition, making the early 2000s seem like a bigger time period than they actually were.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: 80sfan on 02/23/17 at 1:09 pm


Eh... Shouldn't we just separate current events with pop culture within decades?


Good point.  :D

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: #Infinity on 02/23/17 at 2:12 pm


Yeah, the mid '00s are definitely their own unique era from a political standpoint. For the most part, George W. Bush was extremely popular throughout the early '00s (his job approval rating stayed above 60% from September 2001 until late 2003), but that started to change rapidly in the mid '00s. His approval rating dropped below 50% in a Gallup poll for the first time in early 2004 and, even though he did win the election that year, he beat John Kerry by a much narrower margin than most people would've predicted a year earlier. It was all downhill after that, though.

When I think mid '00s politics, I think the botched reaction to Hurricane Katrina, Dick Cheney shooting that dude in the face, Scooter Libby getting indicted in the CIA Leak case, the Harriet Miers fiasco, Keith Olbermann destroying Bush on a daily basis with his "commentaries" Jack Abrhamoff and the lobbying scandal, the Mark Foley sex scandal, Iraq getting increasingly worse, and the Republicans losing Congress in the 2006 elections as the country began to shift leftward. Certainly a very different vibe than the early '00s where Bush could do no wrong, and the late '00s which were largely about the rise of Barack Obama to the presidency.


Bush was already moderately controversial at the start of his administration, though. On top of winning the 2000 Election illegitimately, he refused to sign the Kyoto Accords and oversaw an economic recession during his first year in office. As much as 9/11 unified much of the United States behind his leadership, many others felt the tragedy was an inside job or at the very least felt it quickly led to too much government intrusion and discrimination against innocents.

As to the question of why the mid '00s get overlooked, my theory is that we're in a period right now where the early '00s have just gotten to a point where they've starting being "nostalgic", while the late '00s are still recent enough that they're still the cool thing to hate on at the moment and claim that was when everything "went downhill", so the mid '00s sort of get lost in the shuffle. A similar thing actually happened around the time I first joined this website with the mid '90s getting overlooked, where people had just started getting nostalgic for the early '90s, and the late '90s were still getting a lot of hate.


Well, the crucial question I have to ask is, were clearly-mid-90s things like Power Rangers, the OJ Simpson Trial, My So-Called Life, and Clueless the movie being categorized as early 90s in the same way so much stuff from 2005 and 2006 gets classified as early 2000s?

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/23/17 at 2:19 pm

The fact that things from 2005 and 2006 get classified as early 2000s is dumb and just doesn't make sense. Even if you split the decade in half the latest year that would be considerd early 2000s would be 2004. I don't know how people can classify 05' and 06' as early 00s when if you split the decade in half those years would be late 00s.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: #Infinity on 02/23/17 at 2:46 pm


The fact that things from 2005 and 2006 get classified as early 2000s is dumb and just doesn't make sense. Even if you split the decade in half the latest year that would be considerd early 2000s would be 2004. I don't know how people can classify 05' and 06' as early 00s when if you split the decade in half those years would be late 00s.


The only way it makes any sense is if, by 2000s, you're referring either to the 21st century or the 3rd millennium A.D., in the same way it's not always obvious if somebody mentioning the 1900s is specifically referring to the Edwardian decade or just the 20th century in general. In that sense, the "early 2000s" have hardly even begun!

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 02/23/17 at 3:11 pm


Bush was already moderately controversial at the start of his administration, though. On top of winning the 2000 Election illegitimately, he refused to sign the Kyoto Accords and oversaw an economic recession during his first year in office. As much as 9/11 unified much of the United States behind his leadership, many others felt the tragedy was an inside job or at the very least felt it quickly led to too much government intrusion and discrimination against innocents.


That is very true. It's actually kind of interesting to look back at the way Bush was viewed in pre-9/11 2001. Honestly, it was actually very similar to how Donald Trump is seen today, though slightly less controversial. About half the country did not view him as a legitimate President because of the 2000 election controversy and he was generally perceived by most people (even some of his supporters) to be a bumbling buffoon who could barely speak english properly. The weekend before 9/11 happened, a bad jobs report had just come out from the Labor Department, and Bush's approval rating was hovering at about 45-50%.

I don't know that we've ever had the type of shift in the way a leader was viewed than what we had with George W. Bush from September 10, 2001 to September 12, 2001.

Well, the crucial question I have to ask is, were clearly-mid-90s things like Power Rangers, the OJ Simpson Trial, My So-Called Life, and Clueless the movie being categorized as early 90s in the same way so much stuff from 2005 and 2006 gets classified as early 2000s?

Honestly, I don't remember any stuff from 1995 getting called "early '90s" on this site back in 2007. I'm not going to say it didn't happen, and the archives may very well prove me wrong, but it seems like more of a 2010's 14-year-olds-trying-to-be-nostalgic type of thing that we see today with stuff from 2005 or later getting called "early '00s".

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Brian06 on 02/23/17 at 11:55 pm


Bush was already moderately controversial at the start of his administration, though. On top of winning the 2000 Election illegitimately, he refused to sign the Kyoto Accords and oversaw an economic recession during his first year in office. As much as 9/11 unified much of the United States behind his leadership, many others felt the tragedy was an inside job or at the very least felt it quickly led to too much government intrusion and discrimination against innocents.

Well, the crucial question I have to ask is, were clearly-mid-90s things like Power Rangers, the OJ Simpson Trial, My So-Called Life, and Clueless the movie being categorized as early 90s in the same way so much stuff from 2005 and 2006 gets classified as early 2000s?


I remember the OJ Trial pretty well, seriously it was constantly in the news then. It stuck out especially in my mind since I never saw anybody else called "O.J". LOL. I remember when the verdict came out and I was in my 3rd grade class and the teacher told the class the verdict and the class reacted in disbelief, even us 8-9 year olds knew this guy was guilty. I remember Tim McVeigh and OKC too, one thing that sticks out is my dad taking me to the federal building downtown and after OKC I was scared to go because I knew a federal building had been bombed. 1995 sticks out as the year I really became aware of some world events in a clear sense. Did I ever think of those things being early '90s? No way.

My dreamy memories of the early '90s consist of recollections of neon colors and big hair still being around, late '70s cars still being common (my parents had a few), we got a 32" TV in 1993 (borderline mid '90s I know...) and that was a big TV then now it is tiny (I personally have a 60" currently), smoking was way more acceptable then like I remember cigarette billboards and cigarette vending machines being common all over when I was a kid and I remember those candy cigarettes (you just don't see stuff like that anymore), the first globe I remember having still having the USSR on it (that must have been right around the end of the Cold War). I got my first computer in 1993 and the internet wasn't really well known yet, it did have a CD-ROM drive however which was a pretty big deal in 1993. The school mostly had Apple IIgs computers and a few Mac LC's. I remember using programs like Living Books, Kid Pix, DinoPark Tycoon Oregon Trail, Print Shop Deluxe. Macintosh Quadra 610 with System 7, I still remember it pretty well. By late '95/early '96 I got a new computer (Macintosh Performa 6205CD) that came with a 28.8k modem and that was my first experience with the internet, it was now becoming well known.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 02/24/17 at 10:28 am


I remember the OJ Trial pretty well, seriously it was constantly in the news then. It stuck out especially in my mind since I never saw anybody else called "O.J". LOL. I remember when the verdict came out and I was in my 3rd grade class and the teacher told the class the verdict and the class reacted in disbelief, even us 8-9 year olds knew this guy was guilty. I remember Tim McVeigh and OKC too, one thing that sticks out is my dad taking me to the federal building downtown and after OKC I was scared to go because I knew a federal building had been bombed. 1995 sticks out as the year I really became aware of some world events in a clear sense. Did I ever think of those things being early '90s? No way.

My dreamy memories of the early '90s consist of recollections of neon colors and big hair still being around, late '70s cars still being common (my parents had a few), we got a 32" TV in 1993 (borderline mid '90s I know...) and that was a big TV then now it is tiny (I personally have a 60" currently), smoking was way more acceptable then like I remember cigarette billboards and cigarette vending machines being common all over when I was a kid and I remember those candy cigarettes (you just don't see stuff like that anymore), the first globe I remember having still having the USSR on it (that must have been right around the end of the Cold War). I got my first computer in 1993 and the internet wasn't really well known yet, it did have a CD-ROM drive however which was a pretty big deal in 1993. The school mostly had Apple IIgs computers and a few Mac LC's. I remember using programs like Living Books, Kid Pix, DinoPark Tycoon Oregon Trail, Print Shop Deluxe. Macintosh Quadra 610 with System 7, I still remember it pretty well. By late '95/early '96 I got a new computer (Macintosh Performa 6205CD) that came with a 28.8k modem and that was my first experience with the internet, it was now becoming well known.


Even if I didn't know you were a late '80s baby, it would be easy to tell from this post. You described my childhood pretty well right there. 8)

I also remember the O.J. trial, though it's funny because I really had no idea who O.J. Simpson was at the time. I was obviously far too young to remember his NFL career, so to me he was just that dude I would see on NBC on Sunday afternoons when my dad was watching football. I knew that the trial was a big deal because it was on TV all the time, but I was obviously too young to understand all of the racial and social implications. I remember watching the Bronco Chase on TV with my grandfather too and thinking it was weird that the cops were chasing a car going, like, 30 MPH. ;D I vaguely remember the OKC Bombing also. I was in class at the time it happened and remember my teacher mentioning it, but not too much beyond that.

As to your other points about the early '90s...

*Yeah, late '70s cars (and older) were still very common in the early '90s. My parents car up until 1992 was a 1980 Ford LTD (so manufactured in 1979). My great uncle (who was born in 1915) that lived next door to us until he died in 1993 still used his old 1965 Ford Pickup as his primary vehicle.

*A 32-inch TV in 1993 was pretty damn big. My parents got me a 19-inch set for my bedroom that year to play my SNES on and I thought that was huge at the time. In the living room my parents had a 26-inch set at the time and it seemed pretty massive to me. Of course, it was one of those huge, wood cabinet sets that had no remote, so we hat to get up to change the channel. Remember when TV's used to look like this?

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/HoUAAOSwUEVYDRIq/s-l400.jpg

*Things have changed rapidly on cigarettes. When I was a kid, my grandmother used to smoke in the house and in the car with the windows rolled up and nobody seemed the least bit concerned about second-hand smoke, though we probably should have been. I also remember when restaurants like McDonalds and Burger King used to have "smoking areas" with ashtrays sitting on the tables next to the salt and pepper shakers. That seems ancient by today's standards.

*On computers, I didn't get my first computer until 1996, when my cousins gave me their hand-me-down Commodore Amiga when they went off to college along with about 100 or so games on floppy disk. The first time I ever used a computer was in the early '90s, though, shortly after I started Kindergarten in 1992. My school district was pretty low-income, so we actually had an even older computer. My Kindergarten teacher had an Apple IIe from the early '80s in her classroom. I do remember playing many of those games you mentioned, but we had to settle for even older versions because our older model Apple IIe only had a 5.25 inch floppy drive, as opposed to later '80s computers which could play games on 3.5 inch floppys. Sadly, I was also late to the game on the internet as well. I didn't even use it for the first time until 1998 and didn't have access at my house until 2000.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: 80sfan on 02/24/17 at 12:49 pm


I remember the OJ Trial pretty well, seriously it was constantly in the news then. It stuck out especially in my mind since I never saw anybody else called "O.J". LOL. I remember when the verdict came out and I was in my 3rd grade class and the teacher told the class the verdict and the class reacted in disbelief, even us 8-9 year olds knew this guy was guilty. I remember Tim McVeigh and OKC too, one thing that sticks out is my dad taking me to the federal building downtown and after OKC I was scared to go because I knew a federal building had been bombed. 1995 sticks out as the year I really became aware of some world events in a clear sense. Did I ever think of those things being early '90s? No way.

My dreamy memories of the early '90s consist of recollections of neon colors and big hair still being around, late '70s cars still being common (my parents had a few), we got a 32" TV in 1993 (borderline mid '90s I know...) and that was a big TV then now it is tiny (I personally have a 60" currently), smoking was way more acceptable then like I remember cigarette billboards and cigarette vending machines being common all over when I was a kid and I remember those candy cigarettes (you just don't see stuff like that anymore), the first globe I remember having still having the USSR on it (that must have been right around the end of the Cold War). I got my first computer in 1993 and the internet wasn't really well known yet, it did have a CD-ROM drive however which was a pretty big deal in 1993. The school mostly had Apple IIgs computers and a few Mac LC's. I remember using programs like Living Books, Kid Pix, DinoPark Tycoon Oregon Trail, Print Shop Deluxe. Macintosh Quadra 610 with System 7, I still remember it pretty well. By late '95/early '96 I got a new computer (Macintosh Performa 6205CD) that came with a 28.8k modem and that was my first experience with the internet, it was now becoming well known.


I remember it was everywhere in 1994/1995. Phew!

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 02/24/17 at 1:01 pm

Not sure if it's already been posted, but I think one a reason the mid 2000's never existed with a lot of people is because it actually doesn't to them.

Some people are only familiar with saying there are two parts of a decade, not three. Most people I know that say early 2000's are referring to 2000-2004, and late 2000's to them means 2005-2009 with some people putting '05 with early 2000's.

This applies to all decades based on who I've talked to, early '90s for example means 1990-1994 to them.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/24/17 at 1:16 pm


Not sure if it's already been posted, but I think one a reason the mid 2000's never existed with a lot of people is because it actually doesn't to them.

Some people are only familiar with saying there are two parts of a decade, not three. Most people I know that say early 2000's are referring to 2000-2004, and late 2000's to them means 2005-2009 with some people putting '05 with early 2000's.

This applies to all decades based on who I've talked to, early '90s for example means 1990-1994 to them.

No actually most people realize there is early, mid, and late in a decade. Everyone splits it into thirds when talking about pop culture. It's always been like that.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 02/24/17 at 1:37 pm


No actually most people realize there is early, mid, and late in a decade. Everyone splits it into thirds when talking about pop culture. It's always been like that.


Online, it's that way, but people split it up into two parts in real life from my personal experience. Maybe it's just different depending on location.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: mqg96 on 02/24/17 at 1:38 pm


My dreamy memories of the early '90s consist of recollections of neon colors and big hair still being around, late '70s cars still being common (my parents had a few), we got a 32" TV in 1993 (borderline mid '90s I know...) and that was a big TV then now it is tiny (I personally have a 60" currently), smoking was way more acceptable then like I remember cigarette billboards and cigarette vending machines being common all over when I was a kid and I remember those candy cigarettes (you just don't see stuff like that anymore), the first globe I remember having still having the USSR on it (that must have been right around the end of the Cold War). I got my first computer in 1993 and the internet wasn't really well known yet, it did have a CD-ROM drive however which was a pretty big deal in 1993. The school mostly had Apple IIgs computers and a few Mac LC's. I remember using programs like Living Books, Kid Pix, DinoPark Tycoon Oregon Trail, Print Shop Deluxe. Macintosh Quadra 610 with System 7, I still remember it pretty well. By late '95/early '96 I got a new computer (Macintosh Performa 6205CD) that came with a 28.8k modem and that was my first experience with the internet, it was now becoming well known.


This is how I feel about the early 2000's being age 4-7 at the time. A lot of those memories from the first part of my childhood feel dreamy and blurry. I can remember in 2000 & 2001 when the majority of cars on the road were still 90's cars and even when late 80's cars were still very common too, and I'm not talking about Honda cars or Toyota Camry's from the 90's you obviously still see today because of its long lasting engines. I'm talking about all kinds of car, truck, and SUV models from the late 80's and 90's when those were all you could find on the road. Pontiac, Volkswagen, Mercury, Saturn, Kia, Chevrolet, Ford, Dodge, Cadillac, etc. all of it. Even though internet was already around I remember when it was a completely different era when there were mostly Windows 95 & 98 computers (all white computers) and there was no such thing as Windows XP yet when black computers became common by the mid 2000's, and there were NO social media sites like Myspace, Facebook, or Youtube yet. I remember when dial up internet was more common than broadbands. I can also remember when people mainly used floppy disks to store data on their computers instead of USB/flash drives like today. I remember when VCR's and VHS tapes were still the norm, and I remember when many cartoons from the 90's were still rerunning on TV throughout the early 2000's along with those current early 2000's shows.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/24/17 at 1:39 pm


Online, it's that way, but people split it up into two parts in real life from my personal experience. Maybe it's just different depending on location.

I think most people in real life split it up in thirds, but the topic never really comes up in my life so I wouldn't know for sure.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: mqg96 on 02/24/17 at 1:44 pm


Online, it's that way, but people split it up into two parts in real life from my personal experience. Maybe it's just different depending on location.


The reason casuals and people in real life only split decades into two parts is because they don't have time in their life to analyze this stuff like we do. When you watch documentaries and news on TV about decades and music they always split it into early, mid, and late. This has been going on for years. If people only split decades into two it would cause confusion and stir up about different cultures. If we were to split the 2000's only into 2 cultures it could cause a lot of overlap and confusion and everybody knows there's no way 2004 or 2005 could be related to 2000 or 2001. I've heard crazy people say that 2000-2005 was the early 2000's and 2006-2009 was the late 2000's. It makes no sense whatsoever.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 02/24/17 at 1:46 pm


The reason casuals and people in real life only split decades into two parts is because they don't have time in their life to analyze this stuff like we do. When you watch documentaries and news on TV about decades and music they always split it into early, mid, and late. This has been going on for years. If people only split decades into two it would cause confusion and stir up about different cultures. If we were to split the 2000's only into 2 cultures it could cause a lot of overlap and confusion and everybody knows there's no way 2004 or 2005 could be related to 2000 or 2001. I've heard crazy people say that 2000-2005 was the early 2000's and 2006-2009 was the late 2000's. It makes no sense whatsoever.


Exactly, I'm just stating that that's one of the reasons people (like the general public) act like the mid 2000's never existed. I'm right on board with you though.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/24/17 at 1:53 pm


The reason casuals and people in real life only split decades into two parts is because they don't have time in their life to analyze this stuff like we do. When you watch documentaries and news on TV about decades and music they always split it into early, mid, and late. This has been going on for years. If people only split decades into two it would cause confusion and stir up about different cultures. If we were to split the 2000's only into 2 cultures it could cause a lot of overlap and confusion and everybody knows there's no way 2004 or 2005 could be related to 2000 or 2001. I've heard crazy people say that 2000-2005 was the early 2000's and 2006-2009 was the late 2000's. It makes no sense whatsoever.

You know actually one of my professors last semester used the term mid 2000s when she was describing a video she was gonna show us (from 2005 I think) so I do believe at least some average folks use it. But I also know a lot of normies who just splits it up into two and have no idea how cultural decades work lol.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 02/24/17 at 1:55 pm


You know actually one of my professors last semester used the term mid 2000s when she was describing a video she was gonna show us (from 2005 I think) so I do believe at least some average folks use it. But I also know a lot of normies who just splits it up into two and have no idea how cultural decades work lol.


Some people do, but as you mentioned, the normies, lol, usually split it up into two. :)

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Setemstraight on 02/24/17 at 7:21 pm


The reason casuals and people in real life only split decades into two parts is because they don't have time in their life to analyze this stuff like we do. When you watch documentaries and news on TV about decades and music they always split it into early, mid, and late. This has been going on for years. If people only split decades into two it would cause confusion and stir up about different cultures. If we were to split the 2000's only into 2 cultures it could cause a lot of overlap and confusion and everybody knows there's no way 2004 or 2005 could be related to 2000 or 2001. I've heard crazy people say that 2000-2005 was the early 2000's and 2006-2009 was the late 2000's. It makes no sense whatsoever.

That's true. And thoes who do incorrectly split decades in twos who put the "5th" year(which is technically the 6th year) as the early part of a decade is about as dumb as they come. The "early" part has 6 years and the "late" part has only 4 years? See how dumb people can be

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: 2001 on 02/24/17 at 8:41 pm

It's a natural evolution of people calling early 2000s things "'90s" ;D

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/24/17 at 9:01 pm


It's a natural evolution of people calling early 2000s things "'90s" ;D

Haha so true. That has stopped now but now they are calling everything that isn't recent "early 2000s".

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/24/17 at 9:05 pm


Haha so true. That has stopped now but now they are calling everything that isn't recent "early 2000s".

I've only seen people call things up till 2005/6ish "early 2000s". I haven't seen 2007 get lumped into the early 2000s yet but maybe they will as time creeps on.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/24/17 at 9:10 pm


I've only seen people call things up till 2005/6ish "early 2000s". I haven't seen 2007 get lumped into the early 2000s yet but maybe they will as time creeps on.

I saw someone on YouTube call a song from 2007 "90s" not too long ago lol. And they were well aware the song was released in 2007. People just call anything 90s or early 00s even if it doesn't make sense.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: 2001 on 02/24/17 at 10:19 pm


I saw someone on YouTube call a song from 2007 "90s" not too long ago lol. And they were well aware the song was released in 2007. People just call anything 90s or early 00s even if it doesn't make sense.


He probably meant the early 2000s, which ended in 2008.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 02/25/17 at 6:44 am


He probably meant the early 2000s, which ended in 2008.


Yeah it seems like its the '90's ended in 2004!' all over again. I remember a few years ago 80's babies would get pissed off at 90's babies for claiming that 90's culture sneaked into the early 2000's. Now it seems like us 90's babies are getting pissed over 2000's babies claiming that the entire 2000's decade is considered 'early 2000's'. The cycle never ends ;D

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/25/17 at 7:04 am


Yeah it seems like its the '90's ended in 2004!' all over again. I remember a few years ago 80's babies would get pissed off at 90's babies for claiming that 90's culture sneaked into the early 2000's. Now it seems like us 90's babies are getting pissed over 2000's babies claiming that the entire 2000's decade is considered 'early 2000's'. The cycle never ends ;D


Or maybe they just disguise 2004-2008 as the early 2000s, so that people would take it as nostalgic.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/25/17 at 11:12 am


Or maybe they just disguise 2004-2008 as the early 2000s, so that people would take it as nostalgic.

Which is bad, 2004 - 2008 isn't 90s or early 2000s.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 02/25/17 at 11:39 am


Which is bad, 2004 - 2008 isn't 90s or early 2000s.


THIS.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: SpyroKev on 02/26/17 at 8:56 am


Or maybe they just disguise 2004-2008 as the early 2000s, so that people would take it as nostalgic.


They do it because they feel "Missed out" so they attempt to extend the Early 2000s to be apart of the "I was present kids group."

I can relate.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: batfan2005 on 02/27/17 at 4:29 pm


Not sure if it's already been posted, but I think one a reason the mid 2000's never existed with a lot of people is because it actually doesn't to them.

Some people are only familiar with saying there are two parts of a decade, not three. Most people I know that say early 2000's are referring to 2000-2004, and late 2000's to them means 2005-2009 with some people putting '05 with early 2000's.

This applies to all decades based on who I've talked to, early '90s for example means 1990-1994 to them.


With the 2000's I feel like it can be split into two distinct eras, culturally. The early 2000's were 2001-2004, and the late 2000's were 2005-2008. The 1990's and 2010's however can be split into three cultural periods (early, mid, and late).

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/27/17 at 4:54 pm


With the 2000's I feel like it can be split into two distinct eras, culturally. The early 2000's were 2001-2004, and the late 2000's were 2005-2008. The 1990's and 2010's however can be split into three cultural periods (early, mid, and late).


Couldn't the 2000s be like a distinctive era, while having different sub cultures between 2001-2004 and 2005-2008?

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/27/17 at 5:10 pm


With the 2000's I feel like it can be split into two distinct eras, culturally. The early 2000's were 2001-2004, and the late 2000's were 2005-2008. The 1990's and 2010's however can be split into three cultural periods (early, mid, and late).

No not really. It can really only be split in thirds like all decades because the mid 00s are different enough from the early and late 00s. You can't put 2004 on the same era as 2000, unless you were being very general, but there is still a big difference. The 2000s were a super changeful decade.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/27/17 at 5:14 pm


No not really. It can be split in thirds because the mid 00s are different enough from the early 00s. You can't put 2004 on the same era as 2000.


2000 is more related towards the late 90s, since we still had Bill Clinton as president of the U.S. in that year. 2001-2005 seems more like the era we had identifed (and misguided) as the early 2000s by most people on the Internet.

Although, if we had three halves:

2001-2003: Early 2000s
2004-2006: Mid 2000s
2007-2009: Late 2000s

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: batfan2005 on 02/28/17 at 7:00 pm


No not really. It can really only be split in thirds like all decades because the mid 00s are different enough from the early and late 00s. You can't put 2004 on the same era as 2000, unless you were being very general, but there is still a big difference. The 2000s were a super changeful decade.



2000 is more related towards the late 90s, since we still had Bill Clinton as president of the U.S. in that year. 2001-2005 seems more like the era we had identifed (and misguided) as the early 2000s by most people on the Internet.

Although, if we had three halves:

2001-2003: Early 2000s
2004-2006: Mid 2000s
2007-2009: Late 2000s


2004 and 2001 feel like they are a part of the same era. 2000 was an extension of the late 90's/Y2K culture which lasted until early 2001. With 2005, the first half might be associated with the early 00's but the second half goes along with 2006-2008. 2009 is grouped together with the early 10's.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/28/17 at 7:10 pm


2004 and 2001 feel like they are a part of the same era. 2000 was an extension of the late 90's/Y2K culture which lasted until early 2001. With 2005, the first half might be associated with the early 00's but the second half goes along with 2006-2008. 2009 is grouped together with the early 10's.


The first half of 2006 seems more associated with 2003-2005, while the second half is more associated with 2007 and 2008 to me.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: 80sfan on 03/02/17 at 2:50 pm

2004 was my favorite year of the 00's, with 2003 in second!  :D

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Slim95 on 03/02/17 at 2:55 pm


2004 was my favorite year of the 00's, with 2003 in second!  :D

2007 was my favourite year of the 00s. My personal life was really good that year.

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: 80sfan on 03/02/17 at 2:56 pm


2007 was my favourite year of the 00s. My personal life was really good that year.


That was a good year for me too!

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: 2001 on 03/02/17 at 6:27 pm

From my favourite to least favourite

1) 2009-2010 school year
2) 1999-2000
3) 2000-2001
4) 2003-2004
5) 2001-2002
6) 2002-2003
7) 2007-2008
8) 2006-2007
9) 2004-2005
10) 2005-2006
11) 2008-2009


As one can easily surmise, I'm quite content to "forget about the mid-2000s" xD

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: #Infinity on 03/02/17 at 6:55 pm

Pop culturally, I'd personally go with this ranking...

1. 2000-2001
2. 1999-2000
3. 2009-2010
4. 2002-2003
5. 2004-2005
6. 2006-2007
7. 2001-2002
8. 2003-2004
9. 2007-2008
10. 2008-2009
11. 2005-2006

Subject: Re: Why do people act like the mid 2000s never existed?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/02/17 at 8:24 pm

Frankly, I made several lists like this but I think this would be the ultimate one.

1. 2004-2005
2. 2005-2006
3. 2003-2004
4. 2006-2007
5. 1999-2000
6. 2007-2008
7. 2009-2010
8. 2000-2001
9. 2008-2009
10. 2002-2003

I personally like all of them, to be honest.

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