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Subject: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: John Titor on 09/19/17 at 1:38 pm

I noticed The early half of 2002 felt different than Fall 2002

I noticed in late 2002 things like

- pop punk bands replacing Boy bands,  Good Charlotte etc
-rise of pop punk and Avril
- The y2k feeling was evaporating



Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: #Infinity on 09/19/17 at 1:53 pm

It wasn't really a split year at all, to be honest. It was just solid post-9/11 early 2000s from start to finish. Anything new didn't really deviate from the norm.

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: John Titor on 09/19/17 at 1:57 pm


It wasn't really a split year at all, to be honest. It was just solid post-9/11 early 2000s from start to finish. Anything new didn't really deviate from the norm.


I don't know, Avril, and pop punk bands werent really that popular in the first half of the year

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: #Infinity on 09/19/17 at 2:04 pm


I don't know, Avril, and pop punk bands werent really that popular in the first half of the year


Uh, yeah pop punk was massive during the first half of the year. Blink-182's Take Off Your Pants and Jacket and Sum 41's All Killer, No Filler were both huge records at the time. Other bands with sizable popularity at the time include Less Than Jake, SR-71, The All-American Rejects, and The Offspring, just to name a few.

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: John Titor on 09/19/17 at 2:08 pm


Uh, yeah pop punk was massive during the first half of the year. Blink-182's Take Off Your Pants and Jacket and Sum 41's All Killer, No Filler were both huge records at the time. Other bands with sizable popularity at the time include Less Than Jake, SR-71, The All-American Rejects, and The Offspring, just to name a few.

I forgot about sum 41, perhaps you may be right, but in school it really picked up around 2002 when avril debuted

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: Longaotian00 on 09/19/17 at 3:48 pm

No, 2001 is definetly more of a split year.

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: 80sfan on 09/19/17 at 4:02 pm

All I cared about in 2002 was Britney Spears. I officially became a fan around November/December of 2001. I bought two of her DVDs. One was of her in Vegas, and one was of her third album, Britney. Oh, and of course I bought her third album, Britney.

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Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: 80sfan on 09/19/17 at 4:13 pm


I noticed The early half of 2002 felt different than Fall 2002

I noticed in late 2002 things like

- pop punk bands replacing Boy bands,  Good Charlotte etc
-rise of pop punk and Avril
- The y2k feeling was evaporating


Yup, one girl in my 8th grade class loved Good Charlotte. "They're so hot!"  :)
And, I also like Avril Lavigne's album, although I can't say I was ever a true blue fan.

It was a fun time to be in eighth grade, by then, 97 to 98% of the boys' voices had cracked, and the girls were looking more grown up, to put it less crudely.

R&B was everywhere on the radio, and adult contemporary a thing of 'that time' in 1998.

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: Zelek3 on 09/19/17 at 4:21 pm

No, 2001, 2004, and 2006 were.

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 09/19/17 at 4:24 pm


No, 2001, 2004, and 2006 were.

How so? ???

Late 2006 shift again? ::)

What about '04?

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: bchris02 on 09/19/17 at 4:28 pm


It wasn't really a split year at all, to be honest. It was just solid post-9/11 early 2000s from start to finish. Anything new didn't really deviate from the norm.


I agree with this.

2001 was a split year.  The 2001-02 school year felt very different compared to the 2000-01 year.  The boy bands had already begun evolving in a more R&B direction in late 2001 (ex: N'Sync feat Nelly - Girlfriend).

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: Longaotian00 on 09/19/17 at 4:29 pm


How so? ???

Late 2006 shift again? ::)

What about '04?


I would say '01 & '08 especially were the most split years during the 2000s

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: Zelek3 on 09/19/17 at 4:35 pm


How so? ???

Late 2006 shift again? ::)

What about '04?

2004 still had some early 2000s vibes in the first half but the second half is when it felt truly mid 2000s and screamed "the 2000s have truly arrived." Myspace becoming very popular, Laguna Beach, Nintendo DS, emo fad, Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon went through monumental changes (that soured some long-time viewers), Bush's approval ratings began to dip below 50% slightly, etc.

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: Longaotian00 on 09/19/17 at 4:39 pm


2004 still had some early 2000s vibes in the first half but the second half is when it felt truly mid 2000s and screamed "the 2000s have truly arrived." Myspace becoming very popular, Laguna Beach, Nintendo DS, emo fad, Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon went through monumental changes (that soured some long-time viewers), Bush's approval ratings began to dip below 50% slightly, etc.


I agree with you, I think early '04 still had a bit of an early 00's feel, but I think by mid-late 2004 it was completly gone, although 2004 is still nowhere near as transitional as years such as 2008.
Another thing is that the iPod really started becoming popular in late '04 thought to 2005. :)

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: John Titor on 09/19/17 at 5:34 pm


No, 2001, 2004, and 2006 were.


yeah early 2001 still felt like VERY Y2k era ish, with WWF still in the attitude and Backstreet boys and NYSNC still on top, flash foward to late 2001
Teen pop transformed into urban pop, 9/11,  xbox/gamecube

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 09/19/17 at 5:38 pm

Pop punk was consistently popular from 2000 to 2002. Nothing changed during the first or second halves of 2002.

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: bchris02 on 09/19/17 at 8:16 pm


Pop punk was consistently popular from 2000 to 2002. Nothing changed during the first or second halves of 2002.


It was definitely a different era back then.  Mr. Worldwide took the galaxy by storm in 2004 with his debut hit "Culo" and changed music forever.

iy-vUCIm04M

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: Slim95 on 09/19/17 at 9:42 pm

Almost every year of the 2000s were split years because there were so many big changes constantly happening. The biggest changes were 2001, 2003, 2006 and 2008, especially 2008. Maybe even 2005. Honestly every year was super changeful. From VHS to DVD to Blu-Ray in a flash, that's the best way to describe the 2000s.

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 09/19/17 at 9:53 pm


It was definitely a different era back then.  Mr. Worldwide took the galaxy by storm in 2004 with his debut hit "Culo" and changed music forever.

iy-vUCIm04M


While you are correct that Pitbull is a very influential figure in music, this era is not one of the greatest. He wasn't even Mr. 305 yet due to being so small in the business. Culo does have some interesting rhythms and melodies and it does happen to be one of the only early era songs of his I don't mind but overall that whole MIAMI album falls flat and it wouldn't be until 2007's The Boatlift he became the man we all know and love. I can understand where he's coming from, though, as he was a young guy figuring himself out during these years and following the trashy 2000's trends before going against the grain and inventing the 2010's in 2007.

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: Setemstraight on 09/20/17 at 1:45 am


I don't know, Avril, and pop punk bands werent really that popular in the first half of the year

You dont much about pop punk do ya? Pop punk bands had been big since the late 90s. Green Day, The Offspring, Blink 182, Sum41, SR 71, Alkaline Trio, Anerican Hi Fi, Butch Walker all were huge before then. In fact Good Charlotte and New Found Glory was already slowly gaining popularity in 2001.

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: Setemstraight on 09/20/17 at 1:46 am


I forgot about sum 41, perhaps you may be right, but in school it really picked up around 2002 when avril debuted

He is right

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: John Titor on 09/20/17 at 9:39 am


You dont much about pop punk do ya? Pop punk bands had been big since the late 90s. Green Day, The Offspring, Blink 182, Sum41, SR 71, Alkaline Trio, Anerican Hi Fi, Butch Walker all were huge before then. In fact Good Charlotte and New Found Glory was already slowly gaining popularity in 2001.

I do know a lot about pop punk, I am talking about when it exploded in school
which was around late 2002

The pop punk era (modern era) kicked off with Blink 182 in 1999/2000 then Off Spring was the newest thing, but I am talking about when it exploded and everyone seemed to be a pop punk kid

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: aja675 on 09/20/17 at 10:08 am

I do recall that teen pop get less popular that year. Actually, I used to think 2002 was a bigger shift than 2004 until I was further educated on this topic because of new music videos replacing old ones on TV and new shops replacing old ones in my town both at around the same time.

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: Slim95 on 09/20/17 at 10:16 am

Teen pop transitioned to punk pop in 2001 - 2002. That's when Pink changed her style, Avril Lavigne came into the picture, and backlash against bubblegum pop started which made the shift into a more punk aound. The Y2K era (1999 - 2001) was about bubblegum pop and then punk got popular in late 2001.

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: John Titor on 09/20/17 at 12:52 pm


Teen pop transitioned to punk pop in 2001 - 2002. That's when Pink changed her style, Avril Lavigne came into the picture, and backlash against bubblegum pop started which made the shift into a more punk aound. The Y2K era (1999 - 2001) was about bubblegum pop and then punk got popular in late 2001.


R&b as well tho, you had christina and Britney going more urban

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: Looney Toon on 09/20/17 at 4:52 pm

Alright how many shifts are you guys gonna keep making up here?!  ::)

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: Looney Toon on 09/20/17 at 4:55 pm


Pop punk was consistently popular from 2000 to 2002. Nothing changed during the first or second halves of 2002.


This guy gets it. Although as for pop punk the genre has been popular in 1999 and didn't fade until 2005 according wiki and some other sites. So to say that Pop Punk is part of the reason that 2002 can be split in half is just strange.

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: Setemstraight on 09/20/17 at 8:13 pm


This guy gets it. Although as for pop punk the genre has been popular in 1999 and didn't fade until 2005 according wiki and some other sites. So to say that Pop Punk is part of the reason that 2002 can be split in half is just strange.

Facts

Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: 2001 on 09/20/17 at 9:20 pm


He is right


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Subject: Re: is 2002 a split year?

Written By: JordanK1982 on 09/20/17 at 11:36 pm


This guy gets it. Although as for pop punk the genre has been popular in 1999 and didn't fade until 2005 according wiki and some other sites. So to say that Pop Punk is part of the reason that 2002 can be split in half is just strange.


Exactly. Early 00's styled pop punk already started making rounds with the release of Home Grown's Act Your Age in 1998 and by 2000 blink-182, SR-71, Conspiracy-era Offspring, MxPx, New Found Glory and Lit were all getting tons of play on MTV2 and top 40 radio stations. Good Charlotte and Avril were nothing more than a continuation of this and it wasn't until Fall Out Boy's Take This To Your Grave that we started to see the 00's styled faux-emo take shape.


I do know a lot about pop punk, I am talking about when it exploded in school
which was around late 2002

The pop punk era (modern era) kicked off with Blink 182 in 1999/2000 then Off Spring was the newest thing, but I am talking about when it exploded and everyone seemed to be a pop punk kid


What? Offspring released Smash in '94 and, along with Green Day, kicked off the punk revival. They weren't the newest thing by any stretch in 2000.

The modern era of pop punk kicks off in 1998 with Home Grown's Act Your Age as it's the first 100% early 00's styled pop punk record.

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