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Subject: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: batfan2005 on 02/25/20 at 7:31 pm

So what do you think? Do you consider 1997 part of the Y2K era, or 2003, or both?

Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: DisneysRetro on 02/26/20 at 10:33 pm

Definitely 1997. R&B, and certain synths were used during the same era. P Diddy and Jermaine Durpri were some of the top producers of that era. Pop rock was starting to become popular with Third eye Blind, Blink 182 and Sum 41...

Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: Longaotian00 on 02/27/20 at 6:18 am

1997 for sure.

Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: Sman12 on 02/27/20 at 8:01 am

1997.  2000 still had teen pop booming, and by 2003, artists who were classified as teen pop (like Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera) migrated to R&B sounds.

Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: mc98 on 02/29/20 at 3:01 pm

1997

50 Cent wasn’t popular at the time. Story of A Girl sounds almost the same as Semi Charmed Life. Teen Pop was at its peak in 2000 while 1997 was the year when it started.

Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/29/20 at 4:38 pm

I'm shocked at the amount of people who voted for 1997. 1997 was a completely different era and still part of the '90s. 2000 is part of the 2000s (so is Y2K in general) and it sounds closer to 2003.

Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 02/29/20 at 7:38 pm


I'm shocked at the amount of people who voted for 1997. 1997 was a completely different era and still part of the '90s. 2000 is part of the 2000s (so is Y2K in general) and it sounds closer to 2003.


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Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: 2001 on 02/29/20 at 7:50 pm


I'm shocked at the amount of people who voted for 1997. 1997 was a completely different era and still part of the '90s. 2000 is part of the 2000s (so is Y2K in general) and it sounds closer to 2003.


1997 is Y2K tbh. Limp Bizkit, Puff Daddy, NSYNC, Backstreet Boys, Spice Girls, Green Day etc. already big that year.

Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 02/29/20 at 8:35 pm

2003

Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/29/20 at 10:05 pm


1997 is Y2K tbh. Limp Bizkit, Puff Daddy, NSYNC, Backstreet Boys, Spice Girls, Green Day etc. already big that year.

1997 is not Y2K.. Y2K started only at the tail end of 1998. 1998 was a transitional year. You had Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys Green Day, and Limp Bizkit far before 1997 too so what's your point on that? They are just part of general mid and late '90s, not Y2K. Most of those groups formed in 1995 and 1996. The Y2K aesthetic only started in 1999 (or late 1998). Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, and Destiny's Child are Y2K artists and you didn't have them around before 1998.

Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: Early2010sGuy on 02/29/20 at 10:41 pm


1997 is not Y2K.. Y2K started only at the tail end of 1998. 1998 was a transitional year. You had Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys Green Day, and Limp Bizkit far before 1997 too so what's your point on that? They are just part of general mid and late '90s, not Y2K. Most of those groups formed in 1995 and 1996. The Y2K aesthetic only started in 1999 (or late 1998). Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, and Destiny's Child are Y2K artists and you didn't have them around before 1998.

I do agree with you in some ways, 1997-98 were still part of the Core 90s in music because of ballads, post-grunge, classic 90s R&B, and a bit of Eurodance (It sounds more bubbly compared to classic eurodance but it is still Eurodance nonetheless). However, Y2K music started becoming mainstream in Late 1996 with Spice Girls and Backstreet Boys, as well as a few Pop-R&B songs in 1997/98, but still, the Core 90s and Y2K trends were neck and neck in 1997-1998, until Y2K trends won the battle around September 1998, when the Y2K era really started. Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Mandy Moore, or Jessica Simpson also had their debuts in 1998-1999, which is correct. However, I'd say Nu-metal had its breakthrough in Late 1998, as it took over Post-Grunge during the time. The Y2K aesthetic also started becoming popular in late 1996, as you can see in my Pre-1998 Y2K aesthetic music videos thread I made. Still, I mostly agree with you here.

Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: Early2010sGuy on 02/29/20 at 10:48 pm


1997 is Y2K tbh. Limp Bizkit, Puff Daddy, NSYNC, Backstreet Boys, Spice Girls, Green Day etc. already big that year.
I would say 1997 is more of a hybrid between the Core 90s and Y2K era, because despite Teen Pop and Pop-R&B, you had lots of Post-Grunge music in 1997-98 like Semi-Charmed Life, and Classic 90s ballads were still dominating the charts in Late 1997.

Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/29/20 at 11:08 pm

So many people aren't differentiating the late '90s from the Y2K era. The Y2K era has more in common with the early 2000s in general than it does with the late '90s.

Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: mc98 on 02/29/20 at 11:15 pm


So many people aren't differentiating the late '90s from the Y2K era. The Y2K era has more in common with the early 2000s in general than it does with the late '90s.

This is a 1997 hit:
z4n6ymEMQmk

This is a 2000 hit:
CduA0TULnow

Very similar if you ask me.

Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/29/20 at 11:18 pm


This is a 1997 hit:
z4n6ymEMQmk

This is a 2000 hit:
CduA0TULnow

Very similar if you ask me.

It's not similar at all. Not even the genre is similar. The first one is the classic '90s R&B sound. The second one has that futuristic Y2K 2000s style bubblegum pop.

Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: Longaotian00 on 02/29/20 at 11:23 pm


It's not similar at all. Not even the genre is similar. The first one is the classic '90s R&B sound. The second one has that futuristic Y2K 2000s style bubblegum pop.


What? "Do You Know" is your typical Y2K Max Martin produced Teen-pop song, just like "Oops!..I Did it Again".

Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: mc98 on 02/29/20 at 11:24 pm


It's not similar at all. Not even the genre is similar. The first one is the classic '90s R&B sound. The second one has that futuristic Y2K 2000s style bubblegum pop.

What about this song that was a hit in 2000:
ZIANBamMgas

This one is from 1997:
beINamVRGy4

Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: mc98 on 02/29/20 at 11:27 pm


What? "Do You Know" is your typical Y2K Max Martin produced Teen-pop song, just like "Oops!..I Did it Again".

Exactly lol.

Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: Early2010sGuy on 03/01/20 at 2:35 am


It's not similar at all. Not even the genre is similar. The first one is the classic '90s R&B sound. The second one has that futuristic Y2K 2000s style bubblegum pop.
-Facepalm- Ya know, without Robyn, Britney Spears or Christina Aguilera would have different sounds, or their career wouldn't be as big. Again, 1997 is part of the core 90s WITH Y2K TRENDS, that's why lots of people consider 1997 as a Core 90s/Y2K hybrid year.

Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: Sman12 on 03/01/20 at 10:05 am


This is a 1997 hit:
z4n6ymEMQmk

This is a 2000 hit:
CduA0TULnow

Very similar if you ask me.


1997 is definitely the year where Y2K aesthetics began to sprout. I even found this music video from Boyz II Men's "4 Seasons of Loneliness" that has them:

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Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: DisneysRetro on 03/02/20 at 12:19 am

I’d say 1997 is transitional but over all 90’s. BSB’s first album still has a lot of hard core 90’s ballads with songs like “I’ll never break your heart” . Nsync and BSB were popular in 1996 all throughout Germany but not international until 1997-1998. BSB only released one song in 1997 and the rest of their singles in 1998 a long with Nsync. There were some y2k influences in 1996 as well. I’d say it started around 1996-1997 but really began around 1998... All in all 2000 has similar music to 1997 when it comes to R&B, pop rock, hip hop and teen pop. 2003 sounds more different. In 2000 Beyonce was singing Say my name and bills with destinys child similar to what she was doing in late 1997, while in 2003 she was singing Naughty girl and Crazy in love  during her solo career.

Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: The Master on 03/03/20 at 5:38 pm

1997 definitely for reasons others have already listed.

As for whether 1997 is the first year of the Y2K era or not is debatable. I mean the year did carry some of the mid 90s influence and but I think thats when that Y2K aesthetic started creeping up in culture. Like somebody mentioned it's transitional but overall I would group with it the Y2K era years.

A good example is looking at the MTV VMAS 1996 and 1997. The 1996 one still has the darker, demure 'look' and aesthetic that was popular during the mid 90s whereas the 97 one has a more 'shiny' and futuristic aesthetic (associated with Y2K) Idk how to explain it in words properly but if you look at pictures or videos from these ceremonies you'll get it.

Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: batfan2005 on 03/05/20 at 10:27 am


1997 definitely for reasons others have already listed.

As for whether 1997 is the first year of the Y2K era or not is debatable. I mean the year did carry some of the mid 90s influence and but I think thats when that Y2K aesthetic started creeping up in culture. Like somebody mentioned it's transitional but overall I would group with it the Y2K era years.

A good example is looking at the MTV VMAS 1996 and 1997. The 1996 one still has the darker, demure 'look' and aesthetic that was popular during the mid 90s whereas the 97 one has a more 'shiny' and futuristic aesthetic (associated with Y2K) Idk how to explain it in words properly but if you look at pictures or videos from these ceremonies you'll get it.


I think late 1997 is when the Y2K era started. You had rock bands like Smashmouth that had the hit "Walking on the Sun" in '97 and then "Allstar" in' 99. You had a lot of NYC based rappers like (then known as) Puff Daddy and Ruff Riders (DMX, etc). You also had the cheesy electro pop songs like "Barbie Girl" which is the same style as the Vengaboys, and as mentioned teen pop like Backstreet Boys became popular.

Subject: Re: Music of 2000: Closer to 1997 or 2003?

Written By: exodus08 on 03/07/20 at 2:23 pm

Calm down kids. Since I’m probably older than some of you to experience the year 2000 I’d say it’s closer to 1998-1999 then 1997. 1998-2001 is one era while 1997 and 2002 is about 50/50.

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