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Subject: Music of 2009: Closer to 2006 or 2012?

Written By: mc98 on 02/29/20 at 3:14 pm

This ones easier. I would pick 2012.

Both 2009 and 2012 had electropop on the charts. Pop punk was almost dead in 2009. Pop R&B was also irrelevant in 2009.

Subject: Re: Music of 2009: Closer to 2006 or 2012?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/29/20 at 4:39 pm

2012 of course. It was part of the early 2010s culture and the music sounded the same as 2012. 2006 was different, part of late 2000s culture.

Subject: Re: Music of 2009: Closer to 2006 or 2012?

Written By: Sman12 on 03/01/20 at 10:06 am

2012. No question. Mainstream rock mostly died in popularity and electropop was in full swing in 2009.

Subject: Re: Music of 2009: Closer to 2006 or 2012?

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 03/01/20 at 10:12 am


2012 of course. It was part of the early 2010s culture and the music sounded the same as 2012. 2006 was different, part of late 2000s culture.


Finally something we can both agree on ;D.

Subject: Re: Music of 2009: Closer to 2006 or 2012?

Written By: Rainbowz on 03/01/20 at 10:18 am

Yeah, definitely 2012.

Subject: Re: Music of 2009: Closer to 2006 or 2012?

Written By: DisneysRetro on 03/02/20 at 1:43 am

2012 all the way, the electro pop era !!!

Subject: Re: Music of 2009: Closer to 2006 or 2012?

Written By: Jaydawg89 on 03/02/20 at 4:28 pm

I might go with a tie actually (maybe 2006). People really overrate how 2010s 2009 music really was. R&B was still very popular in the mainstream. As a matter of fact here are some popular R&B songs from the 2009's Billboard top 100:
- Knock You Down - Keri Hilson featuring Kanye West and Ne-Yo
- Blame It - Jamie Foxx featuring T-Pain
- Halo - Beyoncé
- Birthday Sex - Jeremih
- Obsessed - Mariah Carey
- Mad - Ne-Yo
- If I Were a Boy - Beyoncé
- Battlefield - Jordin Sparks
- Miss Independent - Ne-Yo
- Empire State of Mind - Jay-Z featuring Alicia Keys
- Sweet Dreams - Beyoncé
- Green Light - John Legend featuring André 3000
(And there is even more)

Rap music still sounded mostly 2000s (Ringtone rap was still very popular), also there was still plenty of very popular Rock songs in 2009 such as:
- Gives You Hell - The All-American Rejects
- Use Somebody - Kings of Leon
- Second Chance - Shinedown
- Gotta Be Somebody - Nickelback
- New Divide - Linkin Park
- No Surprise - Daughtry
- If Today Was Your Last Day - Nickelback
- 21 Guns - Green Day
(I also made sure that all these song were in the Billboard top 100, there were actually a few more rock song on the top 100 too).

The only popular music in 2009 that comes close to 2010s music is the pop music but, even then I would say only half of that actually sounded legit 2010s. Only a few artists such as, Lady Gaga and the Black Eyed Peas sounded close to 2010s music meanwhile, big hits that year from Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus, Katy Perry, Kelly Clarkson and Britney Spears still sounded quite 2000s.

I used to think that 2009 was a 2010s year when it came to music but, when I look at what was actually popular, it seems that the 2000s were still outweighing the 2010s.

Subject: Re: Music of 2009: Closer to 2006 or 2012?

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 03/02/20 at 5:19 pm


Rap music still sounded mostly 2000s (Ringtone rap was still very popular), also there was still plenty of very popular Rock songs in 2009 such as:
- Gives You Hell - The All-American Rejects
- Use Somebody - Kings of Leon
- Second Chance - Shinedown
- Gotta Be Somebody - Nickelback
- New Divide - Linkin Park
- No Surprise - Daughtry
- If Today Was Your Last Day - Nickelback
- 21 Guns - Green Day
(I also made sure that all these song were in the Billboard top 100, there were actually a few more rock song on the top 100 too).


I don't think it was a hit over in the US, but I remember Muse's "Uprising" was a huge hit back in 2009.

Subject: Re: Music of 2009: Closer to 2006 or 2012?

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 03/02/20 at 11:24 pm


I might go with a tie actually (maybe 2006). People really overrate how 2010s 2009 music really was. R&B was still very popular in the mainstream. As a matter of fact here are some popular R&B songs from the 2009's Billboard top 100:
- Knock You Down - Keri Hilson featuring Kanye West and Ne-Yo
- Blame It - Jamie Foxx featuring T-Pain
- Halo - Beyoncé
- Birthday Sex - Jeremih
- Obsessed - Mariah Carey
- Mad - Ne-Yo
- If I Were a Boy - Beyoncé
- Battlefield - Jordin Sparks
- Miss Independent - Ne-Yo
- Empire State of Mind - Jay-Z featuring Alicia Keys
- Sweet Dreams - Beyoncé
- Green Light - John Legend featuring André 3000
(And there is even more)

Rap music still sounded mostly 2000s (Ringtone rap was still very popular), also there was still plenty of very popular Rock songs in 2009 such as:
- Gives You Hell - The All-American Rejects
- Use Somebody - Kings of Leon
- Second Chance - Shinedown
- Gotta Be Somebody - Nickelback
- New Divide - Linkin Park
- No Surprise - Daughtry
- If Today Was Your Last Day - Nickelback
- 21 Guns - Green Day
(I also made sure that all these song were in the Billboard top 100, there were actually a few more rock song on the top 100 too).

The only popular music in 2009 that comes close to 2010s music is the pop music but, even then I would say only half of that actually sounded legit 2010s. Only a few artists such as, Lady Gaga and the Black Eyed Peas sounded close to 2010s music meanwhile, big hits that year from Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus, Katy Perry, Kelly Clarkson and Britney Spears still sounded quite 2000s.

I used to think that 2009 was a 2010s year when it came to music but, when I look at what was actually popular, it seems that the 2000s were still outweighing the 2010s.


Well don't get me wrong, I sorta agree. I don't necessarily consider 2009 full blown 2010s either, it was more a mixture of both really. Looking at it based on school years, 2008-2009 was still VERY 2000s; ringtone rap, emo/screamo music, MySpace, name brands galore (Hollister, Abercrombie, Hot Topic, etc.). 2009-2010 leaned a little more to the 2010s though; Facebook, Ed Hardy shirts, skinny jeans, Scenes taking over Emos, 'Young Money' era rappers getting big (Drake, Nicki, Lil Wayne, etc.), 'Bed Rock' being emblematic of that. 2009 overall was a pretty unique year, hence why it was one of my favorites from the 2000s 8).

Subject: Re: Music of 2009: Closer to 2006 or 2012?

Written By: Sman12 on 03/03/20 at 11:57 am


There was still plenty of very popular Rock songs in 2009 such as:
- Gives You Hell - The All-American Rejects
- Use Somebody - Kings of Leon
- Second Chance - Shinedown
- Gotta Be Somebody - Nickelback
- New Divide - Linkin Park
- No Surprise - Daughtry
- If Today Was Your Last Day - Nickelback
- 21 Guns - Green Day
(I also made sure that all these song were in the Billboard top 100, there were actually a few more rock song on the top 100 too).



Yes, I realize that there were some rock songs that were popular in 2009, but the lack/decline of rock music back then compared to 2006 is the reason why I leaned more towards 2012 (and the rise/wave of electropop of course). At least with 2006, there was a more significant presence of rock on the charts:

- Over My Head (Cable Car) - The Fray
- I Write Sins Not Tragedies - Panic! At the Disco
- Move Along - The All-American Rejects
- How To Save a Life - The Fray
- Lips of An Angel - Hinder ( 8-P)
- Dance, Dance - Fall Out Boy
- Photograph - Nickelback ( 8-P)
- Dirty Little Secret - The All-American Rejects
- Savin' Me - Nickelback
- Far Away - Nickelback (I wouldn't be surprised if Nickelback accelerated the decline of rock)

I can go on and on. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Year-End_Hot_100_singles_of_2006

2009 is its own entity, but for comparison's sake for this thread, I'd still have to go with 2012.

Subject: Re: Music of 2009: Closer to 2006 or 2012?

Written By: Slim95 on 03/03/20 at 12:34 pm

2009 was almost identical to 2012. If you heard a 2009 song in 2012 it would not feel out of place at all. It's part of the same era. If you heard a 2006 song in 2009, it would sound a little dated though.

Subject: Re: Music of 2009: Closer to 2006 or 2012?

Written By: mc98 on 03/03/20 at 1:56 pm

While 2009 does have some rock songs, it doesn't compare to how much 2006 had.

Subject: Re: Music of 2009: Closer to 2006 or 2012?

Written By: Jaydawg89 on 03/03/20 at 10:25 pm


2009 was almost identical to 2012. If you heard a 2009 song in 2012 it would not feel out of place at all. It's part of the same era. If you heard a 2006 song in 2009, it would sound a little dated though.



I'm sorry I just don't see it, even when looking at the billboard top 100, 2009 and 2012 are noticably different.

Also despite Rock declining, there was still a decent amount of it on the charts in 2009 compared to 2012 which had nearly none.

Also there was a lot more to the music scene at the time than just electro-pop.

It wasn't really until late 2009 that the early 2010s identity was really clear.

Subject: Re: Music of 2009: Closer to 2006 or 2012?

Written By: batfan2005 on 03/04/20 at 9:06 am

2009 and 2012 are in the same era of electropop/EDM. The only difference is 2009 was more Lady Gaga while 2012 was more David Guetta/Calvin Harris.

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