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Subject: Is the music of 2000 really musically 90s?

Written By: mc98 on 03/21/20 at 11:02 am

A lot of people said that 2000 was just a continuation of 90s music, meaning that it sounds the same as the core 90s. I looked at the charts in 2000 and while there are some actual 90s sounding songs, they are in the minority. The songs in 2000 are like a bridge between 90s and the 2000s. 2000 may have similarities with 1997-1998 but both years had too much 90s influence to begin with.

If you compare N-Sync songs Bye Bye Bye and I Want You Back, you can clearly hear the difference. Even Destiny's Child hit songs Say My Name, Jumpin Jumpin, and Independent Woman don't even sound 90s.  There are so much R&B songs that really don't sound 90s like He Wasn't Man Enough, Thong Song, Try Again, Case Of The Ex, Independent Woman, Say My Name. Take a listen at music from 1993-1997 and compare them to 2000 and there is actually a difference. 2000 is like it's own era where it doesn't scream 90s or 2000s.

Take a look:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Billboard_Hot_100_top-ten_singles_in_2000

Subject: Re: Is the music of 2000 really musically 90s?

Written By: piecesof93 on 03/21/20 at 11:35 am

When the average person says 2000 sounds like a continuation of the 90s, I don't think they mean it sounds like the core 90s. I think they're just saying that it sounds like music that was released in the late 90s. At least that what I meant until you all put me onto the difference between numerical years and cultural years.

I think the music of 2000 is just core Y2K music, hence the reason it doesn't sound distinctively core 90s or core 2000s.

Subject: Re: Is the music of 2000 really musically 90s?

Written By: wixness on 03/21/20 at 1:00 pm

Not really and I guess they always conflate the early 2000s as being representative of the whole 2000s.


I don't know about a song like, say, Big Girls Don't Cry by Fergie, The Great Escape by Boys Like Girls and maybe even Unbreakable by the Backstreet Boys, but they don't sound 90s to me. If they do it's likely because it has a more ballad-like, mellow and in my opinion less random sounding melody (ahem Sam Smith ahem Adele), but otherwise, they sound pretty much distinctly 2000s.


90s pop music in my opinion seemed to sound more upbeat and rock music didn't sound like it came out from high school - 90s rock had more of a grunge vibe while the 2000s an emo vibe.

If anything, I think Little Mix sound more 90s even if they're 2010s. The Spice Girls too but I think they're more of an exception and girl bands and boy bands have largely died out in the 2000s (far more common in the 90s IMO, well, at least girl bands).

Edit: misread the forum title, I'll say yes. But anything from 2003 or 2004 and it's a distinctly 2000s sound.

Subject: Re: Is the music of 2000 really musically 90s?

Written By: DisneysRetro on 03/22/20 at 1:57 am

No it sounds like y2k music. Which started in the late 90’s which is probably why ? There are some songs like Jagged edges “Promise” and “Let’s get married” that came out in late 2000 that sounds 90’s. Ballads in the early 2000’s still sounded pretty late 90’s up until 2002 or so. A moment like this by Kelly Clarkson (2002) sounds like it could have been released in 1998. Most albums released in 2000-2001 were recorded in 1998-1999. Britney’s “From the bottom of my broken heart” was recorded in 1997 and released very late 1999-2000 and sounds 90’s.

Subject: Re: Is the music of 2000 really musically 90s?

Written By: mc98 on 03/22/20 at 9:18 am


No it sounds like y2k music. Which started in the late 90’s which is probably why ? There are some songs like Jagged edges “Promise” and “Let’s get married” that came out in late 2000 that sounds 90’s. Ballads in the early 2000’s still sounded pretty late 90’s up until 2002 or so. A moment like this by Kelly Clarkson (2002) sounds like it could have been released in 1998. Most albums released in 2000-2001 were recorded in 1998-1999. Britney’s “From the bottom of my broken heart” was recorded in 1997 and released very late 1999-2000 and sounds 90’s.


I'm talking about 90s like the music of 1993-1996. It's confusing when people say that because when people say the early 2000s was a continuation of the 90s, they should mean the late 90s, not the core 90s. Even 1997-1998 have too many core 90s influence to be considered Y2K. I personally think that Y2K songs has more in common with the 2000s than 90s, especially with songs like Say My Name, Bye Bye Bye, and Thong Song.

Subject: Re: Is the music of 2000 really musically 90s?

Written By: oldmusicfan on 03/22/20 at 10:35 am


A lot of people said that 2000 was just a continuation of 90s music, meaning that it sounds the same as the core 90s. I looked at the charts in 2000 and while there are some actual 90s sounding songs, they are in the minority. The songs in 2000 are like a bridge between 90s and the 2000s. 2000 may have similarities with 1997-1998 but both years had too much 90s influence to begin with.

If you compare N-Sync songs Bye Bye Bye and I Want You Back, you can clearly hear the difference. Even Destiny's Child hit songs Say My Name, Jumpin Jumpin, and Independent Woman don't even sound 90s.  There are so much R&B songs that really don't sound 90s like He Wasn't Man Enough, Thong Song, Try Again, Case Of The Ex, Independent Woman, Say My Name. Take a listen at music from 1993-1997 and compare them to 2000 and there is actually a difference. 2000 is like it's own era where it doesn't scream 90s or 2000s.

Take a look:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Billboard_Hot_100_top-ten_singles_in_2000


Are those the same people who say 1995 was a year of the early 90s?

Subject: Re: Is the music of 2000 really musically 90s?

Written By: DisneysRetro on 03/22/20 at 4:20 pm


I'm talking about 90s like the music of 1993-1996. It's confusing when people say that because when people say the early 2000s was a continuation of the 90s, they should mean the late 90s, not the core 90s. Even 1997-1998 have too many core 90s influence to be considered Y2K. I personally think that Y2K songs has more in common with the 2000s than 90s, especially with songs like Say My Name, Bye Bye Bye, and Thong Song.


Yeah, 1993-1997 was like the core of the 90’s. When I think of the 90’s I mainly think of those years. 1998 was when the sound of 2000 became a thing. I mean 1998 was only a year and a half to two years before 2000 so of course the sound of the very late 90’s is gonna sound similar. 1997 was like the last year anything culturally 90’s stayed relevant like Scream 2, Titanic, R&B, Post grunge, Hip Hop, etc. By 1998 that started to die and the sound of the millennium was the hottest thing out with new digital sounding beats.

2000:
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1998:
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Subject: Re: Is the music of 2000 really musically 90s?

Written By: Sman12 on 03/23/20 at 10:26 am

I think it's more late 90s (1996-1999), especially with the explosion of teen pop and the contemporary/electro-R&B wave at the time.

Subject: Re: Is the music of 2000 really musically 90s?

Written By: oldmusicfan on 03/23/20 at 12:30 pm


I think it's more late 90s (1996-1999), especially with the explosion of teen pop and the contemporary/electro-R&B wave at the time.


1999 is the earliest Y2K year, making it 2000s. You didn’t notice the shift that year?

Subject: Re: Is the music of 2000 really musically 90s?

Written By: Sman12 on 03/23/20 at 4:31 pm


1999 is the earliest Y2K year, making it 2000s. You didn’t notice the shift that year?


I'm only viewing the era through a historical lens, not based on personal experience. I wasn't even in my mom's womb during the time.

Subject: Re: Is the music of 2000 really musically 90s?

Written By: oldmusicfan on 03/23/20 at 5:42 pm


I'm only viewing the era through a historical lens, not based on personal experience. I wasn't even in my mom's womb during the time.


1999 was 2000s even from a historical lens. Star Wars Episode 1, Pokèmon the Trading Card Game outselling toys, and Spongebob Squarepants airing on Nickelodeon were all 2000s things.

Subject: Re: Is the music of 2000 really musically 90s?

Written By: batfan2005 on 03/24/20 at 5:32 pm


1999 was 2000s even from a historical lens. Star Wars Episode 1, Pokèmon the Trading Card Game outselling toys, and Spongebob Squarepants airing on Nickelodeon were all 2000s things.


And Family Guy

Subject: Re: Is the music of 2000 really musically 90s?

Written By: oldmusicfan on 03/24/20 at 6:39 pm


And Family Guy


Early Family Guy was the best Family Guy.

Subject: Re: Is the music of 2000 really musically 90s?

Written By: CarCar on 03/24/20 at 11:36 pm


Not really and I guess they always conflate the early 2000s as being representative of the whole 2000s.


I don't know about a song like, say, Big Girls Don't Cry by Fergie, The Great Escape by Boys Like Girls and maybe even Unbreakable by the Backstreet Boys, but they don't sound 90s to me. If they do it's likely because it has a more ballad-like, mellow and in my opinion less random sounding melody (ahem Sam Smith ahem Adele), but otherwise, they sound pretty much distinctly 2000s.


90s pop music in my opinion seemed to sound more upbeat and rock music didn't sound like it came out from high school - 90s rock had more of a grunge vibe while the 2000s an emo vibe.

If anything, I think Little Mix sound more 90s even if they're 2010s. The Spice Girls too but I think they're more of an exception and girl bands and boy bands have largely died out in the 2000s (far more common in the 90s IMO, well, at least girl bands).

Edit: misread the forum title, I'll say yes. But anything from 2003 or 2004 and it's a distinctly 2000s sound.


Little mix sounds 90s to you ? First time I ever heard that

Subject: Re: Is the music of 2000 really musically 90s?

Written By: Slashpop on 03/31/20 at 12:57 pm

I can't think of anything except some underground rock genres/groups that didn't change the style or sound from the decade they started in or were emulating

Subject: Re: Is the music of 2000 really musically 90s?

Written By: Slim95 on 04/02/20 at 9:47 am

No it wasn't.

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