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Subject: I'd Rather NOT Believe "Rather"
Written By: RockandRollFan on 09/20/04 at 11:31 pm
Well...once again Dan Rather screwed up. CBS admitted the story was inaccurate and Rather apologized.
Subject: Re: I'd Rather NOT Believe "Rather"
Written By: MaxwellSmart on 09/21/04 at 12:18 am
Well...once again Dan Rather screwed up. CBS admitted the story was inaccurate and Rather apologized.
Yeah, I think it's time for the glue factory for old Dan. I just hope the Republicans don't try to pin this stupid cr*p on the Kerry campaign, but...they will.
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Subject: Re: I'd Rather NOT Believe "Rather"
Written By: danootaandme on 09/21/04 at 6:52 am
Listening to Imus, Andy Rooney on. They make a good point that Rather is being blamed
for the whole spiel while the station execs who give the word on whether the stories get told
are having him take the heat. I'm of a mind to say yeah he jumped the gun and thought he
had a great scoop, but the editors okayed the story and they put their faces forward. Rooney
also said the investigation is on to see how this all happened, was it a Democratic blunder or
a Republican dirty trick., and does it matter in the larger scheme of things?
Subject: Re: I'd Rather NOT Believe "Rather"
Written By: Mushroom on 09/21/04 at 7:15 am
was it a Democratic blunder or a Republican dirty trick., and does it matter in the larger scheme of things?
Since it all seems to have come from somebody who has some serious reality issues and who has done this in the past, I think it is a case of CBS jumping the gun.
And it is not surprising that this guy is also most likely the source of the "Deserter" memos that Michael Moore talked about. The more you read about this character, the more mentally disturbed he appears.
Subject: Re: I'd Rather NOT Believe "Rather"
Written By: CatwomanofV on 09/21/04 at 10:36 am
I have never been a Rather fan. But, it does seem to me that he is taking the heat for this. If I am not mistaken, anchorpeople's job is just reporting what is given to them. I don't think it was his decision to say if it was put on the air or not. Whoever it was who gave the go-ahead of this story without looking into the facts first really did a major discredit to the station, to the media, and to the country.
Cat
Subject: Re: I'd Rather NOT Believe "Rather"
Written By: GWBush2004 on 09/22/04 at 1:20 am
Waiting for utterly stupid Karl Rove blame-game that the liberals will no-doubt do.
Subject: Re: I'd Rather NOT Believe "Rather"
Written By: MaxwellSmart on 09/22/04 at 2:12 am
Waiting for utterly stupid Karl Rove blame-game that the liberals will no-doubt do.
In the old days people used to blame the devil for everything, now it's one of the devil's brats, Karl Rove. But I don't think the big K came up with this one. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a right-wing conspiracy in it somewhere, but so what? This thing doesn't amount to a hill of beans, politically speaking. However, the right-wing media is successfully creating an illusory Everest of beans with it!
As Bill Mahar points out, Bush demonstrated his privileged rich kid status himself when asked about how he got of Guard duty to go to business school. "We arranged it with the military," he said. How many families get to just "arrange" things with "the military." Sheesh! I mean, that's no big deal to me, either, but if Kerry had used a family connection to get out of military duties you know what the Republican Noise Machine would say!
I'm a liberal, but I don't care for Dan Rather, never have. I think he was a big jerk for going with this story without examining the sources. It turns out this guy Burket is an angry, delusional, vindictive partisan with a hate complex. Hmmm....you know who else that describes? Let's see....Roger Ailes, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, the editors of The National Review, Fred Barnes, Grover Norquist, The Heritage Foundation....and so on and so on and so on.
And as they said tonight on the "Daily Show," Dan Rather went into this with bad intelligence and was too stubborn to change course when the bad intillegence was exposed, now he's in a quagmire and it gets worse every day....sounds like...like...like..Bush in Iraq, maybe?
???
Subject: Re: I'd Rather NOT Believe "Rather"
Written By: Don Carlos on 09/22/04 at 2:55 pm
In the old days people used to blame the devil for everything, now it's one of the devil's brats, Karl Rove. But I don't think the big K came up with this one. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a right-wing conspiracy in it somewhere, but so what? This thing doesn't amount to a hill of beans, politically speaking. However, the right-wing media is successfully creating an illusory Everest of beans with it!
As Bill Mahar points out, Bush demonstrated his privileged rich kid status himself when asked about how he got of Guard duty to go to business school. "We arranged it with the military," he said. How many families get to just "arrange" things with "the military." Sheesh! I mean, that's no big deal to me, either, but if Kerry had used a family connection to get out of military duties you know what the Republican Noise Machine would say!
I'm a liberal, but I don't care for Dan Rather, never have. I think he was a big jerk for going with this story without examining the sources. It turns out this guy Burket is an angry, delusional, vindictive partisan with a hate complex. Hmmm....you know who else that describes? Let's see....Roger Ailes, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, the editors of The National Review, Fred Barnes, Grover Norquist, The Heritage Foundation....and so on and so on and so on.
And as they said tonight on the "Daily Show," Dan Rather went into this with bad intelligence and was too stubborn to change course when the bad intillegence was exposed, now he's in a quagmire and it gets worse every day....sounds like...like...like..Bush in Iraq, maybe?
???
Historian Howard Zinn (A Peoples History of the United States) spoke at my college last night, and asked "how many times has the United States been successful in transplanting demoicracy to another country, when that was our avowed purpose?" The answer is, NONE. Bush got us into this quagmire based on what he claimed was good intelligence. Now the intelligence reports suggest that civil war in Iraq is a real possibility, and now our intelligence is inadequate. Go figure.
Subject: Re: I'd Rather NOT Believe "Rather"
Written By: MaxwellSmart on 09/22/04 at 3:59 pm
Historian Howard Zinn (A Peoples History of the United States) spoke at my college last night, and asked "how many times has the United States been successful in transplanting demoicracy to another country, when that was our avowed purpose?" The answer is, NONE. Bush got us into this quagmire based on what he claimed was good intelligence. Now the intelligence reports suggest that civil war in Iraq is a real possibility, and now our intelligence is inadequate. Go figure.
Howard Zinn is like a rock star here in Amherst! I've seen him several times, for which I'm grateful, as he is getting quite old.
Indeed, the Republican politcians and pundits are still going on about bringing "democracy to Iraq," and people actually believe that cr*p! Like how dumb of an S.O.B. do they think I am?
When they say: Democracy
They mean: A place for U.S. corporations to exploit for natural resources and labor at any cost subsidized by the U.S. government.
If YOU were working for THEM, wouldn't you rather say "democracy"?
Subject: Re: I'd Rather NOT Believe "Rather"
Written By: Indy Gent on 09/24/04 at 11:15 am
MAx: Maybe not an S.O.B. ;)(J/K)
I do work for them, and there are several co-workers who vehemently disagree with the current administration. So far, none of them have been fired, imprisoned or shot at.
Howard Zinn is like a rock star here in Amherst! I've seen him several times, for which I'm grateful, as he is getting quite old.
Indeed, the Republican politcians and pundits are still going on about bringing "democracy to Iraq," and people actually believe that cr*p! Like how dumb of an S.O.B. do they think I am?
When they say: Democracy
They mean: A place for U.S. corporations to exploit for natural resources and labor at any cost subsidized by the U.S. government.
If YOU were working for THEM, wouldn't you rather say "democracy"?