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Subject: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: Indy Gent on 11/05/04 at 1:02 am

You only have 4 years. ;)

Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: RockandRollFan on 11/05/04 at 1:21 am

WOW!  LOTS of votes with limited replies.... ::)
You forgot to add Satan....oh wait, Hillary and Moore combine to make him :P

Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: GWBush2004 on 11/05/04 at 2:24 am

My guess is Mrs. Clinton or Kerry again.

Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: Davester on 11/05/04 at 7:43 am

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Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: GWBush2004 on 11/05/04 at 7:53 am


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Wow I didn't know you didn't like Mrs. Clinton. 

''Many of you are well enough off that...the tax cuts may have helped you.  We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you.  We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.'' -Hillary Clinton, at a democrat fundraiser in California, AP.

Karl Marx would be proud.

Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: Davester on 11/05/04 at 8:00 am


WOW!  LOTS of votes with limited replies.... ::)



  I haven't decided yet. Once I have, I'll let you know...

 

Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: Dagwood on 11/05/04 at 8:20 am

Out of those, I would pick Joe Lieberman.

Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: MooRocca on 11/05/04 at 4:09 pm

It is unlikely that Lieberman or Redford will be on the primary ballot in '08, it is a certainty that Moore will never run and a lot of people have been saying that Hillary will someday make a bid for the Presidency, but, so far, Hillary isn't one of them.  If you were trying to make a serious guess at who might run, though, there is one name conspicuously absent from your list of potential Democratic primary candidates:  Daschle's.   

Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: Don Carlos on 11/05/04 at 4:23 pm


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My guess is that none of you, especially on the conservative side, have ever read the first word that Marx wrote.  His analysis of the functioning of capitalism is classic, and has proven to be highly accurate, although I doubt that you will take the time and extend the effort to actuall READ him, so I will refrain from suggesting a reading list (which  would NOT include the "Communist Manifesto", his least impressive work).  But to associate Hillary with Marx is the hight of absurdity, and simply demonstrates both the ignorance of the facsist right, and its lack of ability to engage in real political discussion.

Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 11/05/04 at 4:26 pm

I'd go for a Clinton/Dean ticket.  Don't forget about the rising star of Barack Obama!

I'm not happy to have yet another Republican in the senate, but I am relieved Tom Daschle is gone.  The time has come to purge the Democratic party of its failed leadership.  We don't the bland and the bloodless, like Daschle, Gephardt, Kerry, and Gore.  We need new leadership.  We need to wage the battle from what Dean called "the Democratic side of the Democratic party."  We also need to shift the power base from a collection of disparate interests to a unified party with a cogent and powerful central message.

I always thought Daschle was an a-hole anyway!
::)

Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 11/05/04 at 4:29 pm




My guess is that none of you, especially on the conservative side, have ever read the first word that Marx wrote.  His analysis of the functioning of capitalism is classic, and has proven to be highly accurate, although I doubt that you will take the time and extend the effort to actuall READ him, so I will refrain from suggesting a reading list (which  would NOT include the "Communist Manifesto", his least impressive work).  But to associate Hillary with Marx is the hight of absurdity, and simply demonstrates both the ignorance of the facsist right, and its lack of ability to engage in real political discussion.

But, DC, didn't you witness what took place on Tuesday?  Absurdity ruled the election! 
And, Dagwood, please, no Joe!  I...I can't stand Joe!
:P

Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: GWBush2004 on 11/06/04 at 2:53 am

Well looks like we now know at least one person who is running: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041105/D865VKE00.html

John Edwards

Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: GWBush2004 on 11/06/04 at 3:20 am

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Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: Davester on 11/06/04 at 5:29 am


I'd go for a Clinton/Dean ticket.  Don't forget about the rising star of Barack Obama!

I'm not happy to have yet another Republican in the senate, but I am relieved Tom Daschle is gone.  The time has come to purge the Democratic party of its failed leadership.  We don't the bland and the bloodless, like Daschle, Gephardt, Kerry, and Gore.  We need new leadership.


   The DNC Leadership owes it's resignation. I say they all ought to walk and let a completely clean slate come in. They've become so focused on appeal that they no longer understand their own party and what makes it appealing to the voters. It's become a complex game of trying to roll to the right and meet the irrational fears of the voters instead of legitimately trying to help voters see more clearly. The people aren't going to vote for watered-down Republicans when real ones are just across the ticket.

   Nov. 2nd <---need I make any stronger case for the necessary resignation of Terry McAuliffe and the DNC leadership? Daschle's done, Pelosi's either a non-entity or a joke, depending on who you ask.

 
 We need to wage the battle from what Dean called "the Democratic side of the Democratic party."  We also need to shift the power base from a collection of disparate interests to a unified party with a cogent and powerful central message.



   That's what I'm saying, Max...the Dems are an opposition party right now, and they ought to be the best damn opposition party they can. This would require new leadership from the social left supported by a careful mix of organizers and policy coordinators. The Dems ought to invest in research and create a small literary body around the party's principles in order to make the ideas more easily accessible by virtue of common discussion.

   The Democrats don't need to move to the right with the country. They merely need to get their heads out and start making a better case for the left. One thing the Democrats haven't done in the mad power scrabble is embrace the needs of communication in this cutthroat economic paradigm and started laying out the case for social progress. Part one is showing how poor an investment conservatism is. Part two is showing how a progressive society reduces the weight of its obligations unto itself.

   

Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: Davester on 11/06/04 at 6:42 am




Wow I didn't know you didn't like Mrs. Clinton. 

''Many of you are well enough off that...the tax cuts may have helped you.  We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you.  We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.'' -Hillary Clinton, at a democrat fundraiser in California, AP.

Karl Marx would be proud.


  Personally I see her as a HUGE step backwards for women.

  I see a woman who married for ambitious political gain. Feels like the old arranged marriages to me. A woman who trades her body and soul for wealth, despite repeated humiliations.

  I think her running for Senate in New York was dishonest and greedy. It speaks of political aspiration rather than public service.

  Her actions and business dealings have been duplicitous at best.

  Her politics are unbridled socialism so I could never support her politically.

  I would love a woman in the white house, I think it would be extremely beneficial to the country, but if it was a woman like Ms. Clinton it would do much more harm than good.

  I don't "hate" or "despise" her at all, I just don't respect her and would never vote for her.

Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: Alchoholica on 11/07/04 at 1:28 pm

Al Franken in 2008

Come on, who wouldn't vote for him... :)

Do ATM fee's annoy you, are you sick of those big banks ripping you off, Vote Franken in 2008 and get Grizzly Adams as well..

Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: GWBush2004 on 11/07/04 at 1:32 pm




Come on, who wouldn't vote for him... :)





About 65% of America.

Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 11/07/04 at 2:01 pm




About 65% of America.

I don't think Franken should get into politics.  He's much better as a critic and an agitator.

Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: Alchoholica on 11/07/04 at 3:17 pm

On a serious note however, if he did decide to run for any sort of office, im sure he would get a lot of support. He is fairly well repsected within democratic circles...

Well i'd vote for him anyway :)

Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: Don Carlos on 11/07/04 at 3:30 pm

Right now I'd go for Howard Dean, but its much to early to tell.  4 years is a long time - much too long.

Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: CatwomanofV on 11/07/04 at 7:50 pm

I haven't responded to this thread yet because I have no idea. Some names that were mention that I have been thinking about, Dean, Edwards, and yes, even Obama. But, like Carlos said, 4 years is a long time.




Cat

Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 11/07/04 at 8:00 pm


I haven't responded to this thread yet because I have no idea. Some names that were mention that I have been thinking about, Dean, Edwards, and yes, even Obama. But, like Carlos said, 4 years is a long time.




Cat

Whoever it is, it is crucial they not try to run as a "moderate" or a "centrist."  A politician who does so, does under terms defined by the right-wing.  The successful candidate will have a consistant and inspiring message of his or her own, but will not refrain from telling the ugly truth about the ugly Republicans.

What scares me is GOP party chairman Ed "Dizzy" Gillespie declared this week the Bush Administration would govern from the "center right."  When they say "center right," they mean as far right as they can possibly go!
:o :o :o
Brothers, sisters, we don't need this fascist groove thang!
--Heaven 17

Actually if you alter the lyrics a bit, they are most apt for today:
Democrats are out of power
Across that great wide ocean
Bush is president elect
Fascist God in motion
Generals tell him what to do
Stop your good time dancing
Train their guns on me and you
Fascist thang advancing





Remember, RED is the color of Americans slitting their own throats!

Subject: Re: 2008 Democratic Candidates

Written By: BodaciousBoy on 11/07/04 at 8:26 pm

I'd say Moore has the best chance to lose, so i chose him.

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