Amazon Drops Rape Simulation Video Game

Got me thinking,why is this any different from all those murder and torture simulation games out there?

Huge difference.

The cops in GTA gamesm arrest you for commiting crime.

Either way, a rape video game is a bad idea.

::)

that's pretty scary. one of the things about "dogville" was how this sort of thing starts happening more and more in times of economic distress (the movie was set in the great depression and in the movie rape, murder and betrayal are totally routine). it might not be a coincidence that the japanese suffered an economic collapse in the 90s and since then seem to have moved away from cutesy kids' movies about godzilla and more toward tentacle porn. not to exonerate anyone but just to say this stuff occurs in a context.

scarier thing is it'll probably get much worse before it gets better, at least if the current economic news is any indication. and of course here in the US we had a problem with school shootings and ultraviolent videogames at a time we were told, at least, was pretty prosperous so i guess the causes are more complicated.

that's pretty scary. one of the things about "dogville" was how this sort of thing starts happening more and more in times of economic distress (the movie was set in the great depression and in the movie rape, murder and betrayal are totally routine). it might not be a coincidence that the japanese suffered an economic collapse in the 90s and since then seem to have moved away from cutesy kids' movies about godzilla and more toward tentacle porn. not to exonerate anyone but just to say this stuff occurs in a context.

scarier thing is it'll probably get much worse before it gets better, at least if the current economic news is any indication. and of course here in the US we had a problem with school shootings and ultraviolent videogames at a time we were told, at least, was pretty prosperous so i guess the causes are more complicated.


I'm not a fan of any of these games but i have to ask why is  murder generally accepted and rape isn't? When in every country murder is punished by law much more harshly than rape.

i dunno, actually, i mean i think part of it is the same reason you can show a lot more violence than sex in movies before you get an X rating, but i also think sometimes you can take life and have it allegedly be legitimate -- like if youre a cop or a soldier in war, or whatever -- so they make wargames and cops-and-robber games and then there's this line or what's acceptable vs. what's unacceptable, and you can play "call of duty" and be definitely a good guy or you can play GTA where they play with that line and make you an antihero to play with the rules.

but of course, in real life rape is never, ever legitimate or justified, at least not to us. (the russian army had a history of using it as an instrument of war, and so do some rebel groups in africa. then again, they're sick bastards so...) so where rape games are concerned, there's no right-or-wrong line to play with, it's all just wrong.

and of course, there's the whole tweaky looks-like-they're-underage thing. we're REALLY touchy on that one.

i dunno, actually, i mean i think part of it is the same reason you can show a lot more violence than sex in movies before you get an X rating, but i also think sometimes you can take life and have it allegedly be legitimate -- like if youre a cop or a soldier in war, or whatever -- so they make wargames and cops-and-robber games and then there's this line or what's acceptable vs. what's unacceptable, and you can play "call of duty" and be definitely a good guy or you can play GTA where they play with that line and make you an antihero to play with the rules.

but of course, in real life rape is never, ever legitimate or justified, at least not to us. (the russian army had a history of using it as an instrument of war, and so do some rebel groups in africa. then again, they're sick bastards so...) so where rape games are concerned, there's no right-or-wrong line to play with, it's all just wrong.

and of course, there's the whole tweaky looks-like-they're-underage thing. we're REALLY touchy on that one.


Ah that does make sense. At the same time it's a pretty narrow minded mentality too. Rape is an awful awful crime but nothing is worse than murder imo.

About the videogame it's a huge hypocrisy,there's so much porn simulating rape and "barely legal" on the market and no one is taking that way ::)

Ah that does make sense. At the same time it's a pretty narrow minded mentality too. Rape is an awful awful crime but nothing is worse than murder imo.

About the videogame it's a huge hypocrisy,there's so much porn simulating rape and "barely legal" on the market and no one is taking that way ::)
yeah, i'm not really defending it, just kinda trying to psychoanalyze the culture, i guess. i'd love it if there were lots more sex games and lots less games with heads exploding. as for the rape fantasy thing, a lot of people fantasize about rape, they did studies and even women do. i mean not necessarily outright, and not in the way this game does, but in terms of playing games about the line between seduction and coercion, starting with rape but then she "ends up liking it" and so forth, in the realm of fantasy that turns up a lot but in practice it's always unacceptable and it's important to know that line. and again i'm not justifying it at all, but it just seems like it's really burned deep in the human brain somewhere, i think we've still got lots of evolving left to do.

Amazon Drops Rape Simulation Video Game

Got me thinking,why is this any different from all those murder and torture simulation games out there?


I agree.  It shows you how much of a hangup we have about sex.

We put sex offenders on a list, but not murderers.  We censor nudity on TV, but not violence.

It's all Puritanical BS.

Gross.  I'm glad Amazon nixed that ugly game.

I'd add that rape is far more common than murder.  Several women I know/have known have been raped.  I've never personally known anyone who was murdered. 

Whether such a video game would actually desensitize players to real rape I couldn't say for sure. 

I dunno - on one hand, games like GTA: San Andreas has carjackings, hit and run, shooting cops, assaults, and, of course, grand theft. I doubt it affects real life crimes of those natures.

OTOH, a rape "game" is pretty sick, and not something I think would be fun like GTA.

Like Tia mentiioned, Japanese adult films are pretty horrible - some make Max Hardcore look like a Disney film. It wasn't all that long ago the FBI investigated what appeared to be real snuff films that originated in Japan. Turned out fake (like all of their other "crime" porn), but a rape video game doesn't surprise me.

The underage schoolgirl thing is creepy as hell too...

Ant

I'm not a fan of any of these games but i have to ask why is  murder generally accepted and rape isn't? When in every country murder is punished by law much more harshly than rape.


...and why, in the States at least, copyright infringement can be punished more harshly than both of 'em put together?


Like Tia mentiioned, Japanese adult films are pretty horrible - some make Max Hardcore look like a Disney film. It wasn't all that long ago the FBI investigated what appeared to be real snuff films that originated in Japan. Turned out fake (like all of their other "crime" porn), but a rape video game doesn't surprise me.


http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m324/antrobus178/grape.jpg

Also, that. 

It's a politician grandstanding about the fact that some obscurely weird bit of cultural weirdness that's basically unique to Japan happens to be available internationally.  Great for drumming up votes among the ignorant, but when it comes to actually making rational policies about things that actually matter, not so much. 

No surprise where that game came from... Japan was the first thing that popped into my head when I seen the title of this thread.

Anyway, this isn't the first time they had games with rape in them(That's obvious). The only difference being that this is the first one I've seen where it's the main objective of the game.

I know of others that have as an optional thing, but not as the main point of the game.(Tokimeki Check In comes to mind)

I agree.  It shows you how much of a hangup we have about sex.

We put sex offenders on a list, but not murderers.  We censor nudity on TV, but not violence.

It's all Puritanical BS.

I think the sex offenders going on a list is more about recidivism rates: most sex offenders will re-offend; most murderers don't.

..but then again, the creep in law usage means you get people who took a piss in the wrong area being put on the sex offenders register, when they're not even remotely likely to offend.

However, the variation in response to sex/violence in videos and games *is* puritanical BS.  The logic seems to be that violent video games won't affect people's behaviour, but sexual ones will.

However, the variation in response to sex/violence in videos and games *is* puritanical BS.  The logic seems to be that violent video games won't affect people's behaviour, but sexual ones will.


Jack Thompson thinks that violent games can affect your behavior, but he also thinks alot of other stupid things.

I'm also starting to think of something George Carlin said. This applies well to the puritanical crap and anti-violent game crap: It's all b******* folks and it's bad for ya.