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Subject: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 06/03/10 at 4:29 pm

San Fernando Valley, California -- Adult video actor Steven Hill (aka Steve Driver), 30, hacked fellow adult video actor Herbert Wong (aka Tom Dong) to death with a prop Samurai sword.  Hill injured two others in his rampage, both other victims expected to recover.  Hill worked for Ultima, a company specializing in violent fetish pornography, and was residing on the set as he had no home to go back to.  Thus, when the company told Hill he was not performing up to standards and gave him his walking papers, he lost both his job and his home.  Hill has a history of violent outbursts and brushes with the law.  He went a little too far this time.  The puns in this case are all too obvious
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Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: LyricBoy on 06/03/10 at 6:26 pm

Yeah... killing the villians in his mind with his massive sword.  ;D

Reminds me of the quadruple Wonderland Murders back in 1981, which were all done by bludgeoning.  One of the initial theories was that it was not a murder case, but rather an accident, as the porn star was startled and quickly turned around, accidentally clubbing to death everyone in his, uh, path.  ;)

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: Howard on 06/03/10 at 6:46 pm

I thought he hacked him to death in some hot sex scene with a woman.  :o

;D

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: Bobby on 06/03/10 at 7:01 pm

He who lives by the sword dies by the sword, lol.

These people must either be financially desperate or sadists to get involved in these fetish industries. Besides, who's bright idea was it to give a sword to a man with a history of violence?  ;D

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: Howard on 06/03/10 at 7:33 pm

Is that a sword in your pocket or are you glad to see me?  ;D

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: Bobby on 06/03/10 at 7:35 pm


Is that a sword in your pocket or are you glad to see me?  ;D


Herbert Wong always thought Steve Hill was a funny bloke because, before he died, he kept saying to him; "You slay me".  ;D

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 06/03/10 at 11:02 pm


He who lives by the sword dies by the sword, lol.

These people must either be financially desperate or sadists to get involved in these fetish industries. Besides, who's bright idea was it to give a sword to a man with a history of violence?  ;D


They didn't give Hill the sword, he took it.  Who's bright idea was it to use a real Samurai sword as a prop?  That is the question. 

The difference between the Wonderland murders nearly 30 years ago and what just happened over at that Ultima video company is in 1981, the porn industry was tiny compared to today, and John C. Holmes was its biggest star (in more ways than one).

Steve Driver, Tom Dong?  Who the hell ever heard of these guys? 
???

Whereas Holmes was flat broke because he spent all his money on cocaine, Hill was broke because the hired guns in the porn industry get paid about minimum wage these days.  Its the women who make the money, and they're making less and less as any idiot with a video camera, a website, and a couple of grand can start shooting porn videos and uploading them to the Internet.

It's a pathetic state of affairs.

Hill would have been better off working at a gas station.  He'd get just as much pump action, and better pay!

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: Howard on 06/04/10 at 5:24 am


Herbert Wong always thought Steve Hill was a funny bloke because, before he died, he kept saying to him; "You slay me".  ;D


Are they retro actors from the 70's?  ???

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: LyricBoy on 06/04/10 at 8:35 am


They didn't give Hill the sword, he took it.  Who's bright idea was it to use a real Samurai sword as a prop?  That is the question. 

The difference between the Wonderland murders nearly 30 years ago and what just happened over at that Ultima video company is in 1981, the porn industry was tiny compared to today, and John C. Holmes was its biggest star (in more ways than one).

Steve Driver, Tom Dong?  Who the hell ever heard of these guys? 
???

It's a pathetic state of affairs.

Hill would have been better off working at a gas station.  He'd get just as much pump action, and better pay!



Yeah, for the male performers the porn industry is a mere shadow of its peak during the Golden Age heyday.

Back then all the male performers were household names...  Harry Reems, Tony "The Hook" Perez, Johnny Wadd, and even Richard Pacheco were famous for their exploits with the likes of Marilyn Chambers (the Ivory Snow Girl), Linda Lovelace, Georgina Spelvin, and Seka.

Nowadays, except maybe for Ron Jeremy, the male figures of porn toil in obscurity.  And you really don't hear all that much about the women either, although I guess there are a couple who pull in some decent dinero.

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: Howard on 06/04/10 at 2:36 pm

Nowadays, except maybe for Ron Jeremy, the male figures of porn toil in obscurity.  And you really don't hear all that much about the women either, although I guess there are a couple who pull in some decent dinero.

Ron Jeremy's basically doing nothing right now and as for the women Nina Hartley who was a porn actress from the early to mid 80's is now an advocate for sex ed,has a few biographies,has won awards at the AVN Hall of Fame,married and a has a girlfriend,sometimes teaches sex ed classes.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ZdAc-cnTT5M/SB-_nEWvopI/AAAAAAAAAEI/xmu6V3hz46I/s640/ninahartley.jpg

She's 51 years old now.

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 06/04/10 at 8:42 pm


Yeah, for the male performers the porn industry is a mere shadow of its peak during the Golden Age heyday.

Back then all the male performers were household names...  Harry Reems, Tony "The Hook" Perez, Johnny Wadd, and even Richard Pacheco were famous for their exploits with the likes of Marilyn Chambers (the Ivory Snow Girl), Linda Lovelace, Georgina Spelvin, and Seka.

Nowadays, except maybe for Ron Jeremy, the male figures of porn toil in obscurity.  And you really don't hear all that much about the women either, although I guess there are a couple who pull in some decent dinero.


There are still a bunch of big name male porn stars around (Peter North, John Dough, Lexington Steele, etc.), but most of them got established before the Internet revolution.  Furthermore, most of them do more than perform.  They run their own sites and production companies.  They not only do the business, they run the business.  Same goes for a lot of female porn stars too.  When I was house sitting for my brother last week, I noticed Jenna Jameson has her own cable channel, "Jenna."  They have an elite cable package with all the pay channels I don't have.  But I digress...

If you're 22 years old and headed for the San Fernando Valley with nothing but a big weenie and a bigger dream, you can just forget it, kid!
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Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: Howard on 06/05/10 at 5:29 am

If you're 22 years old and headed for the San Fernando Valley with nothing but a big weenie and a bigger dream, you can just forget it, kid!

Oh Well,that leaves me out. Wait a minute,I'm 36. Oops!

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 06/06/10 at 12:37 am


Oh Well,that leaves me out. Wait a minute,I'm 36. Oops!



Howard, guys like you and me just ain't gonna be porn stars.  Wasn't meant to be.  Will not happen.  Put your mind at ease.
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Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: AL-B Mk. III on 06/06/10 at 3:05 am

Latest update: Apparently the suspect just offed himself. Pretty wicked how it went down.   :-\\

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-porn-suspect-20100606,0,7477995.story

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: LyricBoy on 06/06/10 at 3:31 am

Looks like Steve went out with one last plunge...

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: Howard on 06/06/10 at 6:46 am



Howard, guys like you and me just ain't gonna be porn stars.  Wasn't meant to be.  Will not happen.  Put your mind at ease.
8)


I could if I wanted to but if the scene was to involve anal sex,I don't know about that.

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: Howard on 06/06/10 at 6:48 am

Man,you don't see porn stars of yesteryear getting involved in murder and mayhem.

How about Ron Jeremy getting involved in some murder.  ;D

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: LyricBoy on 06/06/10 at 7:54 am


Man,you don't see porn stars of yesteryear getting involved in murder and mayhem.


I don't know about that, Howard. Johnny Wadd was the biggest star of the Golden Age of porn, and was tried in the murder of 4 of his drug dealer buddies. Ultimately he was exonorated, but he was indeed present at the murders and he was the one who managed to get the murder crew past the security system. The murders were a revenge hit for a robbery that he bad set up a few days earlier (but the victim figured it out and made him participate in the revenge operation).

Watch the movie 'wonderland' for the whole story.

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: Howard on 06/06/10 at 7:56 am


I don't know about that, Howard. Johnny Wadd was the biggest star of the Golden Age of porn, and was tried in the murder of 4 of his drug dealer buddies. Ultimately he was exonorated, but he was indeed present at the murders and he was the one who managed to get the murder crew past the security system. The murders were a revenge hit for a robbery that he bad set up a few days earlier (but the victim figured it out and made him participate in the revenge operation).

Watch the movie 'wonderland' for the whole story.


Wow,Johnny Wadd(John Holmes) died from Aids in 1988.

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: LyricBoy on 06/06/10 at 7:57 am


I could if I wanted to but if the scene was to involve anal sex,I don't know about that.


From what I hear on Loveline, today's porn films almost always include some back door action  :o so it looks like you're outta luck Howard.  ;D

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: Howard on 06/06/10 at 7:58 am


From what I hear on Loveline, today's porn films almost always include some back door action  :o so it looks like you're outta luck Howard.  ;D


you mean those porn ads on late night 2am commercials?

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: LyricBoy on 06/06/10 at 8:00 am


Wow,Johnny Wadd(John Holmes) died from Aids in 1988.


Yes, that was a sad day. I remember exactly where I was when I heard the news. 'Twas the end of an era. After that, though, the Porno industry started taking the AIDS threat alot more seriously.

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: LyricBoy on 06/06/10 at 8:02 am


you mean those porn ads on late night 2am commercials?


No, Loveline is a Syndicated call-in radio show done by Dr Drew Pinsky.

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: AL-B Mk. III on 06/06/10 at 5:04 pm

Oh, man...there's video out now of Stephen Clancy Hill falling off the cliff.

I'm not gonna post it, but it's not too hard to find.  :o

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: LyricBoy on 06/06/10 at 6:31 pm


Oh, man...there's video out now of Stephen Clancy Hill falling off the cliff.

I'm not gonna post it, but it's not too hard to find.  :o


Wow... that had to leave a mark.

He looked like he was going thru a pinball machine.  :o

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: AL-B Mk. III on 06/06/10 at 6:44 pm

I wonder if he signed his donor card.  :o :o :o

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: LyricBoy on 06/06/10 at 7:05 pm


I wonder if he signed his donor card.   :o :o :o


I imagine he won't be donating any bones. 

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: Foo Bar on 06/06/10 at 8:55 pm

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Annnnnnnnnnnd, I'm spent.  Ms. Hartley will have to wait :)

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: Howard on 06/07/10 at 6:40 am


Yes, that was a sad day. I remember exactly where I was when I heard the news. 'Twas the end of an era. After that, though, the Porno industry started taking the AIDS threat alot more seriously.


At least we have the other porn actors/actress that are still with us from yesteryear that never died from AIDS,most of them live in New York,California or The 50 states.

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: LyricBoy on 06/07/10 at 7:09 am


At least we have the other porn actors/actress that are still with us from yesteryear that never died from AIDS,most of them live in New York,California or The 50 states.


Harry Reems now lives in Utah, where he runs Harry Reems Real estate.  :)

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: Howard on 06/07/10 at 7:37 am


Harry Reems now lives in Utah, where he runs Harry Reems Real estate.  :)


http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ZdAc-cnTT5M/SB-_nEWvopI/AAAAAAAAAEI/xmu6V3hz46I/ninahartley.jpg


51 years old Nina Hartley is now a sex ed educator,advocate for sex ed,has a biography,is bisexual,has a husband and has won awards in 2008 at the AVN Hall Of Fame Award Ceremony.

I'm still trying to locate the rest of the cast of Debbie Does Dallas.

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: LyricBoy on 06/07/10 at 8:19 am



51 years old Nina Hartley is now a sex ed educator,advocate for sex ed,has a biography,is bisexual,has a husband and has won awards in 2008 at the AVN Hall Of Fame Award Ceremony.

I'm still trying to locate the rest of the cast of Debbie Does Dallas.


IMDb does not show her as a DDD cast member; it shows her first "work" in 1984. 

According to her IMDb page, she has portrayed a charachter "Debbie" in a series of flicks called "Debbie Duz Dishes" (sounds like a Rule 34 thing), "Debbie Does Wall Street".  She also played a chacarter named Debbie in a production entitled "Blazing Bedrooms".

She's also done "Diary of a MILF 8" and "Diary of a MILF 9".

Apparently porn these days likes to do LOTS of high-number sequels.  ;D

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: Howard on 06/07/10 at 12:28 pm


IMDb does not show her as a DDD cast member; it shows her first "work" in 1984. 

According to her IMDb page, she has portrayed a charachter "Debbie" in a series of flicks called "Debbie Duz Dishes" (sounds like a Rule 34 thing), "Debbie Does Wall Street".  She also played a chacarter named Debbie in a production entitled "Blazing Bedrooms".

She's also done "Diary of a MILF 8" and "Diary of a MILF 9".

Apparently porn these days likes to do LOTS of high-number sequels.  ;D


Nina Hartley has pretty much done it all,She's been around the block so many times her cooch has so many STD's,it's not even funny.  :o

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: LyricBoy on 06/07/10 at 2:30 pm


Nina Hartley has pretty much done it all


Judging from the titles of her 539 films, I'd say you are correct.  ;D

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000440/

Subject: Re: Murder and mayhem in Smut Valley

Written By: Howard on 06/08/10 at 5:22 am


Judging from the titles of her 539 films, I'd say you are correct.  ;D

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000440/



Hey,She's a legend,I mean she's been in the porn business for 25 years so she would know what to do by now.

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