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Subject: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: Creeder on 11/19/10 at 6:23 am

I'm sad to see one of my favorite genres (alongside glam metal and pop punk) to fall from the mainstream.
In 2010 we see no post-grunge song break the top 20 charts. Daughtry's song "September" was №36 and that's the only top 40 this year.
We have new albums from post-grunge artists such as Lifehouse, Saving Abel, My Darkest Days and upcoming Hinder album, but so far without any presence in the spotlight. Daughtry's 2009 album "Leave This Town" is the last pure post-grunge album topping the billboard 200. I hope that year 2011 will be better for post-grunge with big names like Nickelback, 3 Doors Down and Creed with possible new albums.
And electronic influenced indie rock is gaining much more attention than before. Are we witnessing shift in rock music?

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: Emman on 11/19/10 at 6:59 am

Good rinddance to that crap. I highly doubt it will suddenly come back in 2011, people finally got sick of that smelly, crappy tired out sound. 8)

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: Shiv on 11/19/10 at 8:08 am

Yes. Post-grunge has changed hardly at all since the mid 90s. People are bored with it.

It's nothing but corporate throwaway rock. Nickelback, Hinder, Shinedown, etc were the REO Speedwagon, Forigener, Journey, etc of the 00s.

Also Anyone ever notice how EVERYONE claims to hate Nickelback, yet the've sold like billions of albums?

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: Creeder on 11/19/10 at 8:36 am


Yes. Post-grunge has changed hardly at all since the mid 90s. People are bored with it.

It's nothing but corporate throwaway rock. Nickelback, Hinder, Shinedown, etc were the REO Speedwagon, Forigener, Journey, etc of the 00s.

Also Anyone ever notice how EVERYONE claims to hate Nickelback, yet the've sold like billions of albums?


Some things shouldn't change if they work perfectly.
All those bands you have mentioned (REO Speedwagon, Forigener, Journey) are fantastic! We, post-grunge fans love 80's rock.
And yes, millions of conservative people (like myself) still love bands like Nickelback, Creed, 3DD, Staind, etc.

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: bchris02 on 11/19/10 at 9:53 am


Some things shouldn't change if they work perfectly.
All those bands you have mentioned (REO Speedwagon, Forigener, Journey) are fantastic! We, post-grunge fans love 80's rock.
And yes, millions of conservative people (like myself) still love bands like Nickelback, Creed, 3DD, Staind, etc.


Musical trends come and go.  Post-grunge had a good 15 year run in the mainstream, almost as long as hip-hop.  There will continue to be post-grunge style music but its not going to dominate the Billboard 200.  I myself am happy to see post-grunge fading.  While I loved Nickleback in 2002, I did not so much in 2009.  In fact, anything after 'Photograph' pretty much sucked.

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: Creeder on 11/19/10 at 10:15 am


Musical trends come and go.  Post-grunge had a good 15 year run in the mainstream, almost as long as hip-hop.  There will continue to be post-grunge style music but its not going to dominate the Billboard 200.  I myself am happy to see post-grunge fading.  While I loved Nickleback in 2002, I did not so much in 2009.  In fact, anything after 'Photograph' pretty much sucked.

Yeah, maybe you're right about trends come and go. But I don't see the alternative of post-grunge. I just can't listen to indie rock. Whatever people say, post-grunge was the last bastion of machismo in rock n' roll. That music had balls. I'm really worried about the future of party cock rock. :S

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: JamieMcBain on 11/19/10 at 10:47 am

It was bound to die, eventually.

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: yelimsexa on 11/19/10 at 11:47 am

It's sad that rock in general is pretty much disappearing from the mainstream as well (Emo, old-school sounds). I think 2010s rock music will be a lot like 1980s Jazz: cheesy and cliche (who will be the Kenny G and Winston Marsalis of rock this decade?), and late in this decade perhaps, the emphasis on musical nostalgia shifting away from rock (except for metal and punk) to more of a hip-hop/techno/dance-oriented nostalgia.

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: Creeder on 11/19/10 at 11:59 am


It's sad that rock in general is pretty much disappearing from the mainstream as well (Emo, old-school sounds). I think 2010s rock music will be a lot like 1980s Jazz: cheesy and cliche (who will be the Kenny G and Winston Marsalis of rock this decade?), and late in this decade perhaps, the emphasis on musical nostalgia shifting away from rock (except for metal and punk) to more of a hip-hop/techno/dance-oriented nostalgia.

Talk like this is blasphemy! Rock will live forever! I can't live in a world without mainstream rock. :( :( :(

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: Emman on 11/19/10 at 12:29 pm


It's sad that rock in general is pretty much disappearing from the mainstream as well (Emo, old-school sounds). I think 2010s rock music will be a lot like 1980s Jazz: cheesy and cliche (who will be the Kenny G and Winston Marsalis of rock this decade?), and late in this decade perhaps, the emphasis on musical nostalgia shifting away from rock (except for metal and punk) to more of a hip-hop/techno/dance-oriented nostalgia.


I think mainstream music during the 2010s in general will shift toward being hip hop/techno-dance/electronica/indie dominant, traditional rock music really is getting outdated, sure it will still have a solid fan base(like jazz). I really think rock music stopped being the dominant force in music around 1995 to 2003-ish.

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: 80sfan on 11/19/10 at 12:36 pm


It was bound to die, eventually.


Isn't that the law of nature?  :\'(

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: Shiv on 11/19/10 at 2:32 pm

Sometimes I wonder what will become of rock after the passing of the baby boomer generation. Gen X still had its fair share of rock too, but gen Y? Gen Z? Will it get passed down, or will rock be forgotten and become like those Mantovani and Jerry Vale albums found en masse at the thrift stores?

Mich Jagger and Keith Richards are pushing 70.

Indie rock seems to be rock's only potential saving grace for the 10s. If that doesn't catch on, it'll become like jazz. Don't think it can't happen... Jazz was the dominant music form from the 1920s all the way through the late 50s/early 60s, when it was replaced by rock.

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: tv on 11/19/10 at 4:53 pm


Yes. Post-grunge has changed hardly at all since the mid 90s. People are bored with it.

It's nothing but corporate throwaway rock. Nickelback, Hinder, Shinedown, etc were the REO Speedwagon, Forigener, Journey, etc of the 00s.

Also Anyone ever notice how EVERYONE claims to hate Nickelback, yet the've sold like billions of albums?
Yeah Reo Speedwagon, Foriegner, and Journey were part of the post-classic rock era in the 80's. The post classic era(1976/1977-1987) is similar to the post grunge era(1997-early 2007.)

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: tv on 11/19/10 at 4:57 pm


Some things shouldn't change if they work perfectly.
All those bands you have mentioned (REO Speedwagon, Forigener, Journey) are fantastic! We, post-grunge fans love 80's rock.
And yes, millions of conservative people (like myself) still love bands like Nickelback, Creed, 3DD, Staind, etc.
I like Staind and I was a Seattle and San Diego grunge fan in the 90's.I like Creed's radio singles from their 1st album("My Own Prison") that was a hit. I am a Nickleback hater but a couple songs by them are ok.

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: tv on 11/19/10 at 5:02 pm


Musical trends come and go.  Post-grunge had a good 15 year run in the mainstream, almost as long as hip-hop.  There will continue to be post-grunge style music but its not going to dominate the Billboard 200.  I myself am happy to see post-grunge fading.  While I loved Nickleback in 2002, I did not so much in 2009.  In fact, anything after 'Photograph' pretty much sucked.
Um hip-hop originated in the late 1970's. What are you saying like the run that hip-hop had from 1994-mid 2008 starting with East and West Coast Gangsta Rap and ending with Lil Wayne?

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: LyricBoy on 11/19/10 at 6:48 pm


I'm sad to see one of my favorite genres (alongside glam metal and pop punk) to fall from the mainstream.
In 2010 we see no post-grunge song break the top 20 charts. Daughtry's song "September" was №36 and that's the only top 40 this year.
We have new albums from post-grunge artists such as Lifehouse, Saving Abel, My Darkest Days and upcoming Hinder album, but so far without any presence in the spotlight. Daughtry's 2009 album "Leave This Town" is the last pure post-grunge album topping the billboard 200. I hope that year 2011 will be better for post-grunge with big names like Nickelback, 3 Doors Down and Creed with possible new albums.
And electronic influenced indie rock is gaining much more attention than before. Are we witnessing shift in rock music?


Some things shouldn't change if they work perfectly.
All those bands you have mentioned (REO Speedwagon, Forigener, Journey) are fantastic! We, post-grunge fans love 80's rock.
And yes, millions of conservative people (like myself) still love bands like Nickelback, Creed, 3DD, Staind, etc.



You know what else is dying?

REGISTRATION  :P

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: Starde on 11/19/10 at 7:28 pm



You know what else is dying?

REGISTRATION   :P



Hahahaha! ;D

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: bchris02 on 11/19/10 at 8:50 pm


Um hip-hop originated in the late 1970's. What are you saying like the run that hip-hop had from 1994-mid 2008 starting with East and West Coast Gangsta Rap and ending with Lil Wayne?


Yeah, I am talking about the 1994-2008 hip hop dominance...starting with gangsta and ending with snap rap.  Rap existed long before that and will continue to exist in the future, it just won't dominate the mainstream as it has for the past 15 years, same with post-grunge.

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: JamieMcBain on 11/19/10 at 11:00 pm



You know what else is dying?

REGISTRATION   :P


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePaTAnGnk8Q

;D

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: Howard on 11/20/10 at 5:47 am



You know what else is dying?

REGISTRATION   :P



Yeah,That too.  ;D

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: whistledog on 11/20/10 at 10:12 am

Speaking of My Darkest Days, I am surprised 'Porn Star Dancing' made it to #90 on the US Chart.

It only reached #40 in Canada, which isn't the best considering they are from Canada, but still good as they managed to sneak in there with the competing Electronic genre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Fnet0y9Ts

It is their first single, so give them time, they'll have more.

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 11/20/10 at 11:32 am



You know what else is dying?

REGISTRATION   :P


I, uh, don't get the joke.
http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/13/icon_scratch.gif

But I guess if you have to explain it, it won't be funny anymore...
:(

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: LyricBoy on 11/20/10 at 4:27 pm


I, uh, don't get the joke.
http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/13/icon_scratch.gif

But I guess if you have to explain it, it won't be funny anymore...
:(


The original poster is not registereed here at www.inthe00s.com

Subject: Re: Is post-grunge dying?

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 11/23/10 at 10:19 pm


The original poster is not registereed here at www.inthe00s.com


Ohhhh, now I get it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=080ZCtbfats&feature=related

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