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Subject: Oprah

Written By: mooster on 12/23/10 at 8:16 pm

She came, she saw, she conquered!

Interested to see if it made the news in her home country ???

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: whistledog on 12/23/10 at 9:27 pm


She came, she saw, she conquered!

Interested to see if it made the news in her home country ???


Hugh Jackman smashing his face on Sydney Opera House.  Oh yeah, we heard!

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: mooster on 12/23/10 at 9:30 pm


Hugh Jackman smashing his face on Sydney Opera House.  Oh yeah, we heard!


I knew that part would ::)

Just wish I was there to patch him up  :D  :P

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: ladybug316 on 12/23/10 at 10:01 pm

NOTHING Oprah does goes unnoticed here!  She tells us her favorite things, names her approved books, and we follow like sheep!  How one person can be so powerful and persuasive and still be likable is the magic of Oprah  8)

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: mooster on 12/24/10 at 1:38 am

I couldn't believe the frenzy - it was like Beatlemania all over again! ;D

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 12/24/10 at 9:40 am


She came, she saw, she conquered!

Interested to see if it made the news in her home country ???


well of course it did... first of all she flew an entire audience out there... then there was the whole Hugh Jackman almost lost an eye incident  ;D

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 12/24/10 at 9:40 am




Just wish I was there to patch him up  :D  :P


me too!!!

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 12/24/10 at 9:47 am


NOTHING Oprah does goes unnoticed here!  She tells us her favorite things, names her approved books, and we follow like sheep!  How one person can be so powerful and persuasive and still be likable is the magic of Oprah  8)


I love Oprah. I often said the TV is my church and Oprah is the god I pray to!  ;D


I've said it before and I'll say it again. In the early 90s when I worked at Barnes & Noble... before there was Oprah's favorite Things and before Oprah had her book club  the sheep were flocking in... every time Oprah named a book on the air, featured an author or talked to actors in an adaptation film those books went flying off the shelf.  This was before DVRs. We would get calls from people who were watching the show asking us to hold the book.  After the show was over people would trickle in and ask for the book.  On the weekends the VCR people would trickle in... we had to special order the books because we never had more than a handful avail. I remember when no one was reading Bridges of Madison County. The day after Oprah talked about it started flying off the shelf.  I always said we need as seen on Oprah section but the manager never listened to me... now they have stickers that say Oprah's Book Club  ::) 
At least the publishers were smart and started sending us notices that read so&so will be on Oprah to promote such&such in case you want to order extra copies....we did and they still ran out.

(FYI- I read Bridges of MC because of Oprah but I thought it sucked.)

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: mooster on 12/28/10 at 2:18 am


I love Oprah. I often said the TV is my church and Oprah is the god I pray to!  ;D


;D

I've only ever watched a handful of episodes and that's going waaay back - maybe the 90s...?! She's on during the day here and as I work, I don't get to see it anyway...hence my shock at her immense popularity  :o


I've said it before and I'll say it again. In the early 90s when I worked at Barnes & Noble... before there was Oprah's favorite Things and before Oprah had her book club  the sheep were flocking in... every time Oprah named a book on the air, featured an author or talked to actors in an adaptation film those books went flying off the shelf.  This was before DVRs. We would get calls from people who were watching the show asking us to hold the book.  After the show was over people would trickle in and ask for the book.  On the weekends the VCR people would trickle in... we had to special order the books because we never had more than a handful avail. I remember when no one was reading Bridges of Madison County. The day after Oprah talked about it started flying off the shelf.   I always said we need as seen on Oprah section but the manager never listened to me... now they have stickers that say Oprah's Book Club  ::)  
At least the publishers were smart and started sending us notices that read so&so will be on Oprah to promote such&such in case you want to order extra copies....we did and they still ran out.

(FYI- I read Bridges of MC because of Oprah but I thought it sucked.)


Wow - powerful woman! Well let's hope she boosts tourism here (since I believe that was the main objective of her being here)  ;)

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: 80sfan on 12/29/10 at 9:26 pm

I can see why alot of people don't like Oprah. She can be pretty stuck up.

But for some reason she doesn't bother me. I think it's the $$$$!!  :-X

No, but to be serious, she isn't perfect, but I find her sincere and truly caring of other people even if she can be a bit into herself sometimes.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: MrCleveland on 12/30/10 at 7:53 am


I can see why alot of people don't like Oprah. She can be pretty stuck up.

But for some reason she doesn't bother me. I think it's the $$$$!!  :-X

No, but to be serious, she isn't perfect, but I find her sincere and truly caring of other people even if she can be a bit into herself sometimes.


There's one thing I like about Oprah...the word she coined...Vajayjay! :P

NVxm-SO6Vdo

I know...I'm weird! :D

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Philip Eno on 12/30/10 at 8:50 am


She came, she saw, she conquered!

Interested to see if it made the news in her home country ???
I saw TV footage over here in the UK, including Hugh Jackman

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 12/30/10 at 1:21 pm


There's one thing I like about Oprah...the word she coined...Vajayjay! :P

NVxm-SO6Vdo

I know...I'm weird! :D


I remember that!  ;D

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 12/30/10 at 1:31 pm


There's one thing I like about Oprah...the word she coined...Vajayjay! :P

NVxm-SO6Vdo

I know...I'm weird! :D


I'm fairly certain she got that from Greys Anatomy.

But it is fun when she says it.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 12/30/10 at 1:54 pm

I can't believe it's been 25 years wow I remember 1986 and all the stuff that happened in the news and music and everywhere else.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: mooster on 12/30/10 at 7:02 pm


I can't believe it's been 25 years wow I remember 1986 and all the stuff that happened in the news and music and everywhere else.


What's been 25 years ???

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: mooster on 12/30/10 at 7:05 pm


I saw TV footage over here in the UK, including Hugh Jackman


So you got a bit of it over there too?

Just as well we had nice weather for the most part  :)

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 12/30/10 at 8:21 pm


What's been 25 years ???


This is oprahs 25th (& final) season

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 12/31/10 at 6:48 am


This is oprahs 25th (& final) season


http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/photos/assets_c/2009/09/oprah1986-thumb-580xauto-15989.jpg

And I remember her first episode but I forgot who her first guest was.  ???

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: LyricBoy on 12/31/10 at 9:26 am


And I remember her first episode but I forgot who her first guest was.  ???


I bet Gayle King was in the audience tho.  ;)

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 12/31/10 at 9:49 am

Didn't she say she was "retiring" this year?

I think she'll do a lot of philanthropy.  Maybe she could give me some money.  I could sure use it!

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 12/31/10 at 2:58 pm


Shes not retiring she's just not doing her daily talk show any longer. She will still have O magazine and now OWN (the oprah winfrey network)
She probably still has that satellite radio station and she certainly still has her production company.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: AL-B Mk. III on 12/31/10 at 3:12 pm

Why do I have this suspicion that Oprah Winfrey is trying to take over the world?

And naming her network OWN only adds to my paranoia.  :o :o :o

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 12/31/10 at 3:15 pm


Why do I have this suspicion that Oprah Winfrey is trying to take over the world?

And naming her network OWN only adds to my paranoia.  :o :o :o


Works for me!  8) :D

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: AL-B Mk. III on 12/31/10 at 3:19 pm


Works for me!  8) :D


And in a related story, Fox News announced today that beginning January 1st, 2011, they will be renaming themselves the Paranoid White Network, or PWN for short.  :D

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 12/31/10 at 6:29 pm


I bet Gayle King was in the audience tho.   ;)


Gayle King must have been a little girl at that time.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 12/31/10 at 6:30 pm


And in a related story, Fox News announced today that beginning January 1st, 2011, they will be renaming themselves the Paranoid White Network, or PWN for short.  :D


;D Good one Al.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Foo Bar on 12/31/10 at 8:16 pm


She came, she saw, she conquered!


"No, you got it in the wrong order."
- Dr. Phil, ca. 2016, "Behind the Scenes: The Secret Life of Oprah Winfrey"

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 12/31/10 at 8:47 pm


And in a related story, Fox News announced today that beginning January 1st, 2011, they will be renaming themselves the Paranoid White Network, or PWN for short.  :D


;D


Karma!!!

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 12/31/10 at 8:49 pm


Gayle King must have been a little girl at that time.


No Howard gayle only 11 months younger than oprah.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 01/01/11 at 6:35 am


"No, you got it in the wrong order."
- Dr. Phil, ca. 2016, "Behind the Scenes: The Secret Life of Oprah Winfrey"


She'll be a guest star on his show.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: mooster on 01/01/11 at 7:44 pm


This is oprahs 25th (& final) season


That long? So I was right when I said I watched it back in the 90s then  :D

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/02/11 at 12:40 am


That long? So I was right when I said I watched it back in the 90s then  :D


Yep.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: mooster on 01/02/11 at 1:49 am


Yep.


Whatever happened to Sally Jessie Raphael and Ricky Lake? There was Phil Donahue too.. I saw Sally on some movie/TV show the other night..can't remember what it was though...

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/02/11 at 2:47 am


Whatever happened to Sally Jessie Raphael and Ricky Lake? There was Phil Donahue too.. I saw Sally on some movie/TV show the other night..can't remember what it was though...


Sally and riki both ended their run I think in the late 90s maybe early 00s Phil retired in 96

After a while in the late mid to late 90s there were a crap load of "shock" fest talk tv shows. Oprah did it for awhile to stay in the game then decided to only do shows that were life improving or at least sent a message.

Ie when she did a show about domestic violence it wasn't to sensastionalize it it was to speak to people about the signs and the options to get out.

When oprah went kinder and gentler and spiritual she elevated herself to a Demi god. She'd deny it but it's  kinda true.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: bookmistress4ever on 01/02/11 at 4:46 am

She did a show in my hometown in Ohio in 1988.  She did it on the high rate of unemployment there.  Nothing much changed after she left though, a casino in Atlantic City had a recruiting drive in town which took a few people away but the town was dying anyways, even Oprah couldn't bring it back to life.  :\'(

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 01/02/11 at 6:51 am


Whatever happened to Sally Jessie Raphael and Ricky Lake? There was Phil Donahue too.. I saw Sally on some movie/TV show the other night..can't remember what it was though...


I remember those shows,Do you remember Mike Douglas or The Dick Cavett Show? ???

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: LyricBoy on 01/02/11 at 7:41 am


I remember those shows,Do you remember Mike Douglas or The Dick Cavett Show? ???


Let's not forget Morton Downey, Jr., Richard Bey, Arsenio Hall, or Jenny Jones, either.  :)

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/02/11 at 10:49 am


She did a show in my hometown in Ohio in 1988.  She did it on the high rate of unemployment there.  Nothing much changed after she left though, a casino in Atlantic City had a recruiting drive in town which took a few people away but the town was dying anyways, even Oprah couldn't bring it back to life.  :\'(


She's got a lot of power but not that much! She sure scared the crap outta the beef industry tho  ;D
Unfortunately the end result of that was that dr Phil was unleashed on the world.
I should stop eating beef  a matter of principle but I won't.  :D

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/02/11 at 10:52 am


Let's not forget Morton Downey, Jr., Richard Bey, Arsenio Hall, or Jenny Jones, either.   :)


Those would be tge ones I was referring to when I said a crap load of talk shows.
Also Jerry, Maury and montell.

Not to mention the failed talk shows that sprang up (including one hosted by gayle king)

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 01/02/11 at 1:11 pm


Let's not forget Morton Downey, Jr., Richard Bey, Arsenio Hall, or Jenny Jones, either.   :)


Morton Downey Jr,he was always in your face. :o
Always tuned in To The Arsenio Hall Show

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 01/02/11 at 1:13 pm


Those would be tge ones I was referring to when I said a crap load of talk shows.
Also Jerry, Maury and montell.

Not to mention the failed talk shows that sprang up (including one hosted by gayle king)


And then there was Joan Rivers.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: mooster on 01/02/11 at 6:02 pm


I remember those shows,Do you remember Mike Douglas or The Dick Cavett Show? ???


No..we didn't get them here...



Let's not forget Morton Downey, Jr., Richard Bey, Arsenio Hall, or Jenny Jones, either.  :)


Or those!

Who are these people ;D

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: mooster on 01/02/11 at 6:03 pm


She did a show in my hometown in Ohio in 1988.  She did it on the high rate of unemployment there.  Nothing much changed after she left though, a casino in Atlantic City had a recruiting drive in town which took a few people away but the town was dying anyways, even Oprah couldn't bring it back to life.  :\'(


:(

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/02/11 at 6:10 pm


No..we didn't get them here...


Or those!

Who are these people ;D


Amanda dick cavett and mike Douglass had talk shows in the 60s and 70s. So did Dinah shore. No reason for you to know them


The others were all talk show hosts in the 90. Before dating reality tv and real world / big brother type reality shows talk ahows featured lots of dysfunctional people looking for 15 minutes of fame infamy.

We also forgot to include geraldo Rivera.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: mooster on 01/03/11 at 3:40 am


Amanda dick cavett and mike Douglass had talk shows in the 60s and 70s. So did Dinah shore. No reason for you to know them


The others were all talk show hosts in the 90. Before dating reality tv and real world / big brother type reality shows talk ahows featured lots of dysfunctional people looking for 15 minutes of fame infamy.

We also forgot to include geraldo Rivera.



Q, you are a wealth of knowledge! 8)

I've heard of Dinah Shore but I'm not certain it was because of her chat show...might've been something else...

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/03/11 at 3:45 am


Q, you are a wealth of knowledge! 8)

I've heard of Dinah Shore but I'm not certain it was because of her chat show...might've been something else...





Only about tv related trivia! sadly I know more about talk shows than I care to admit!  ;D



Dinah Shore also acted and was famous for her Chevrolet Commercials.

"See the USA; in your Chevrolet"... okay those probably didn't play down under!  ;D

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: mooster on 01/03/11 at 3:51 am



Only about tv related trivia! sadly I know more about talk shows than I care to admit!  ;D



Nothing wrong with that! ;)



Dinah Shore also acted and was famous for her Chevrolet Commercials.

"See the USA; in your Chevrolet"... okay those probably didn't play down under!  ;D


Nup  ;D

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 01/03/11 at 6:37 am


No..we didn't get them here...


Or those!

Who are these people ;D


Who are these people? Are you kidding? Are you kidding me?  :o *faints*

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/03/11 at 6:40 am


Who are these people? Are you kidding? Are you kidding me?  :o *faints*


Howard Amanda is in Australia so she wasn't exposed to the same shows we were here in the US

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 01/03/11 at 6:41 am


Howard Amanda is in Australia so she wasn't exposed to the same shows we were here in the US


Oh I'm sorry,I didn't know. :-\\

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/22/11 at 1:27 pm



I've been watching the Aussie eps of Oprah's trip down under.... no offense because the country is beautiful but the eps are boring...

basically day one was a travelogue... 
day two was oprah visiting random aussie's and giving them tix to her show. 
day three was 5 mins with russell crow, 5 mins with Jay Z and 5 mins with someone else I've already forgotten who...  bon jovi.... I didn't watch

I must admit - the gift to the kids from the under privileged school and to the dude with cancer ----those were amazing and made me tear up a bit...

I haven't watched day 4 yet it's the one where hugh jackman crashes tho!!!  ;D

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/22/11 at 1:36 pm


Oh I've been watching a lot of OWN!  The oprah winfrey network.

My favorite show is the one that follows the oprah show producers behind the scenes...we get to see them stress out to try and pull off the impossible.  It's fantastic. and better than some of the actual shows themselves.


I also like the competition show looking for a host of an original show on OWN. there are 10 contestants trying to win their own show... so far two (well three as of last night) have been eliminated.


I'm looking forward to seeing the Master Class ep she did with Maya Angelou. 

I watch the Peter Walsh show because I love watching other people declutter - I just don't wanna do it myself.

I haven't watched the myth or miracle show but I guess it sounds interesting.  nor have I watched we've been kidnapped by our kids a show about kids who think their parents pay more attention to their work than themselves...

I am looking forward to the Judds reality show because, even tho I hate country music, I think wynona and naomi have an amazing dynamic.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: 80sfan on 01/22/11 at 3:22 pm

I read some of Oprah's bio and heard some interviews of her and wow, she had a wild youth, especially her preteen and early teen years!

She was extremely rebellious as an early teen and one time drank detergent to get attention or more correctly, cry for help. This is a huge contrast to the more mature and stable Oprah we see today. Boy, how much a person can change in a long time!

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: LyricBoy on 01/22/11 at 3:27 pm


She was extremely rebellious as an early teen and one time drank detergent to get attention or more correctly, cry for help.


I wonder if she was pooting suds for a few days after that? ???

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/22/11 at 3:28 pm


I read some of Oprah's bio and heard some interviews of her and wow, she had a wild youth, especially her preteen and early teen years!

She was extremely rebellious as an early teen and one time drank detergent to get attention or more correctly, cry for help. This is a huge contrast to the more mature and stable Oprah we see today. Boy, how much a person can change in a long time!


she had a traumatic childhood which lead to her rebellious teen years fortunately she was able to gain control of her life and become the woman she is today.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: 80sfan on 01/22/11 at 3:40 pm


I wonder if she was pooting suds for a few days after that? ???


I have no clue.  :o

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: 80sfan on 01/22/11 at 3:44 pm


she had a traumatic childhood which lead to her rebellious teen years fortunately she was able to gain control of her life and become the woman she is today.


I think that by the time she was 15 or 16 her life had stabilized somewhat. To be quite honest she is one lucky woman. A lot of people in this world who have a childhood like hers don't always get a second chance.  :-\\

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/22/11 at 3:51 pm


I think that by the time she was 15 or 16 her life had stabilized somewhat. To be quite honest she is one lucky woman. A lot of people in this world who have a childhood like hers don't always get a second chance.  :-\\


after she lost her baby at the age 14 she started to throw herself into her school work.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 01/22/11 at 7:03 pm


I wonder if she was pooting suds for a few days after that? ???


pooting what?  ???

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: LyricBoy on 01/22/11 at 7:09 pm


pooting what?  ???


Someone posted that Oprah had drank detergent.  So I wondered if a bit later, she had been pooting soap suds. 

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 01/22/11 at 7:35 pm


Someone posted that Oprah had drank detergent.  So I wondered if a bit later, she had been pooting soap suds. 


Why would she do that?

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: 80sfan on 01/23/11 at 12:02 am


Why would she do that?


She wanted to commit suicide because she was afraid that she would be disowned by her family and/or dad because being pregnant at 14 back then was considered 'shameful'.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: danootaandme on 01/23/11 at 6:21 am

Most under I would say 40 don't understand what it was like to have a child "out of wedlock" in those days.  The greatest shames upon a family were homosexuality and unwed mothers. Homosexuality could be hidden, but it wasn't so easy to hide a pregnancy.  Sometimes there would be a "shotgun wedding"  sometimes a mere beating by the males in the family, but usually the father of the child got away free, and I mean no child support, no consequences, at all.  The girl though, her life became hell.  In a lot of cases she was sent away to a home for unwed mothers where she gave birth and the child was taken away form her.  She didn't have any rights to the child at all.  Her family would do there best to make sure no one found out, if it became known she was ostracized, her friends couldn't talk to her, she was thrown out of school, sometimes out of the house without the ability to return, ever.  Many times the mother of the young girl would pretend to be pregnant and raise the child as another child, a sibling of the actual mother.  Eric Clapton is a famous example of this.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Dagwood on 01/23/11 at 7:54 am


Eric Clapton is a famous example of this.


Jack Nicholson as well.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: LyricBoy on 01/23/11 at 8:03 am


Most under I would say 40 don't understand what it was like to have a child "out of wedlock" in those days.  The greatest shames upon a family were homosexuality and unwed mothers. Homosexuality could be hidden, but it wasn't so easy to hide a pregnancy.  Sometimes there would be a "shotgun wedding"  sometimes a mere beating by the males in the family, but usually the father of the child got away free, and I mean no child support, no consequences, at all.  The girl though, her life became hell.  In a lot of cases she was sent away to a home for unwed mothers where she gave birth and the child was taken away form her.  She didn't have any rights to the child at all.  Her family would do there best to make sure no one found out, if it became known she was ostracized, her friends couldn't talk to her, she was thrown out of school, sometimes out of the house without the ability to return, ever.  Many times the mother of the young girl would pretend to be pregnant and raise the child as another child, a sibling of the actual mother.  Eric Clapton is a famous example of this.


There is a reason why "out of wedlock" was so unpopular (and still should be).  It is an exceedingly poor way to being a child into the world whose life will be successful from a purely statistical standpoint.  I'm not talking about the couple who simply decides not to marry but raises the kids in one household.  I'm talking about the "baby mama" and "baby daddy" thing you see going on these days.  The American statistics on out of wedlock births are a national disgrace and show no sign of turning around.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/23/11 at 9:56 am


She wanted to commit suicide because she was afraid that she would be disowned by her family and/or dad because being pregnant at 14 back then was considered 'shameful'.


she wasn't afraid of being disowned she knew exactly what would happen if her family found out she was pregnant. 

She has said that when she moved back in with her father, because her mom could no longer want to deal with her, she was pregnant. Her father stood in the kitchen and laid down the rules for her... not knowing she was already pregnant he told her that he'd rather see her floating dead down the river than have her come home and tell him she was expecting a child.  Seems like she had few choices.


The thing I've always admired about Oprah, even without all the hardships of her early upbringing, there's "no way" she should have become what she is.... as she says she was born a negro female in rural mississippi in 1954 in a home that had no outdoor plumbing.  she had so many strikes against her at birth.... she was black, female, and poor in an area where, at the time,  blacks were being lynched for the crime of being black and women were deemed not as good as men in anything......  and now she is, dare I say, the most influential woman... screw it...the most influential person in America.  That's pretty out-effing-standing...



Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: 80sfan on 01/23/11 at 11:08 am


she wasn't afraid of being disowned she knew exactly what would happen if her family found out she was pregnant. 

She has said that when she moved back in with her father, because her mom could no longer want to deal with her, she was pregnant. Her father stood in the kitchen and laid down the rules for her... not knowing she was already pregnant he told her that he'd rather see her floating dead down the river than have her come home and tell him she was expecting a child.  Seems like she had few choices.


The thing I've always admired about Oprah, even without all the hardships of her early upbringing, there's "no way" she should have become what she is.... as she says she was born a negro female in rural mississippi in 1954 in a home that had no outdoor plumbing.  she had so many strikes against her at birth.... she was black, female, and poor in an area where, at the time,  blacks were being lynched for the crime of being black and women were deemed not as good as men in anything......  and now she is, dare I say, the most influential woman... screw it...the most influential person in America.  That's pretty out-effing-standing...






I like her too.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: danootaandme on 01/23/11 at 5:27 pm


There is a reason why "out of wedlock" was so unpopular (and still should be).  It is an exceedingly poor way to being a child into the world whose life will be successful from a purely statistical standpoint.  I'm not talking about the couple who simply decides not to marry but raises the kids in one household.  I'm talking about the "baby mama" and "baby daddy" thing you see going on these days.  The American statistics on out of wedlock births are a national disgrace and show no sign of turning around.


That being said...Girls and women who became pregnant paid the price, whereas the males involved weren't really held accountable.  The reasons for the pregnancy did not change the shame involved.  Conception by rape was looked on as the same as conception through promiscuity. If a twelve year old became pregnant it was her own fault, she enticed the 35 year old uncle. Going to jail for statutory rape was pretty much a fallacy.  It pretty much depended on the color, and/or connections of the male or female involved. The American statistics for holding fathers accountable is still a national disgrace.  Maybe with a bit more enforcement and accountability the trend could turn.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: LyricBoy on 01/23/11 at 6:00 pm


That being said...Girls and women who became pregnant paid the price, whereas the males involved weren't really held accountable.  The reasons for the pregnancy did not change the shame involved.  Conception by rape was looked on as the same as conception through promiscuity. If a twelve year old became pregnant it was her own fault, she enticed the 35 year old uncle. Going to jail for statutory rape was pretty much a fallacy.  It pretty much depended on the color, and/or connections of the male or female involved. The American statistics for holding fathers accountable is still a national disgrace.  Maybe with a bit more enforcement and accountability the trend could turn.


Oh I agree with you there, it certainly takes two to tango, so to speak.

The problem is... there are plenty of people out there who do not think all of this out-of-wedlock business is a problem.  When I lived in South Bend IN, a stat came out that indicated something like 70% of the kids were born out of wedlock.  People came out of the woodwork assailing this statistic as being culturally biased, saying that advocating wedded parenthood was 'cultural imperialism'.  :-[

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: danootaandme on 01/23/11 at 6:20 pm


Oh I agree with you there, it certainly takes two to tango, so to speak.

The problem is... there are plenty of people out there who do not think all of this out-of-wedlock business is a problem.  When I lived in South Bend IN, a stat came out that indicated something like 70% of the kids were born out of wedlock.  People came out of the woodwork assailing this statistic as being culturally biased, saying that advocating wedded parenthood was 'cultural imperialism'.  :-[


I'm one of those "out of wedlock" mothers.  But then I was older and financially stable. The father the same, but no interest in being a father.  I have come to believe, after seeing children of married, separated, and never married parents, it isn't so much the wedlock as the involvement of the parents whether they are together or not.  Happily married with children is an ideal, but not, by any means a guarantee. 

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/23/11 at 6:29 pm


I'm one of those "out of wedlock" mothers.  But then I was older and financially stable. The father the same, but no interest in being a father.  I have come to believe, after seeing children of married, separated, and never married parents, it isn't so much the wedlock as the involvement of the parents whether they are together or not.  Happily married with children is an ideal, but not, by any means a guarantee. 


well said

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: 80sfan on 01/23/11 at 8:04 pm

I don't think Oprah meant for her baby to die, but wouldn't drinking detergent kill her baby?

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/23/11 at 8:08 pm


I don't think Oprah meant for her baby to die, but wouldn't drinking detergent kill her baby?




I think, if oprah did indeed drink detergent while pregnant, she was doing so to try and get rid of the baby. Before Roe v Wade desperate women did lots of tragic things to end unwanted pregnancies... living in rural mississippi there weren't many back alleys she could visit to get an abortion and being in such a small town the news would probably get back to her father any way

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: 80sfan on 01/23/11 at 8:17 pm


I think, if oprah did indeed drink detergent while pregnant, she was doing so to try and get rid of the baby. Before Roe v Wade desperate women did lots of tragic things to end unwanted pregnancies... living in rural mississippi there weren't many back alleys she could visit to get an abortion and being in such a small town the news would probably get back to her father any way


I see.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: 80sfan on 01/23/11 at 8:19 pm


she wasn't afraid of being disowned she knew exactly what would happen if her family found out she was pregnant. 

She has said that when she moved back in with her father, because her mom could no longer want to deal with her, she was pregnant. Her father stood in the kitchen and laid down the rules for her... not knowing she was already pregnant he told her that he'd rather see her floating dead down the river than have her come home and tell him she was expecting a child.   Seems like she had few choices.


The thing I've always admired about Oprah, even without all the hardships of her early upbringing, there's "no way" she should have become what she is.... as she says she was born a negro female in rural mississippi in 1954 in a home that had no outdoor plumbing.  she had so many strikes against her at birth.... she was black, female, and poor in an area where, at the time,  blacks were being lynched for the crime of being black and women were deemed not as good as men in anything......  and now she is, dare I say, the most influential woman... screw it...the most influential person in America.  That's pretty out-effing-standing...






So you're saying that she was afraid of getting killed by her parents?  ???

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: danootaandme on 01/24/11 at 5:30 am



I don't think Oprah meant for her baby to die, but wouldn't drinking detergent kill her baby?




Generally, if it doesn't kill the mother it doesn't kill the child, but it could impair it.  People don't understand how really, really, awful it was for a woman to be pregnant without being married, not bad for guys, just women.  We are not as far removed from the Taliban as some would like to believe, or acknowledge.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 01/24/11 at 6:39 am


I don't think Oprah meant for her baby to die, but wouldn't drinking detergent kill her baby?




I don't think so.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: 80sfan on 01/24/11 at 4:00 pm


Generally, if it doesn't kill the mother it doesn't kill the child, but it could impair it.  People don't understand how really, really, awful it was for a woman to be pregnant without being married, not bad for guys, just women.  We are not as far removed from the Taliban as some would like to believe, or acknowledge.


Oprah really was lucky to have a second chance.  8)

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: 80sfan on 01/24/11 at 4:01 pm


I don't think so.


Well, I needed a 2nd and 3rd,..... opinion.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Dagwood on 01/24/11 at 6:34 pm


I don't think so.


Actually, yes it could.  When you are pregnant the baby ingests everything you ingest.  If you eat or drink something that could kill you it could kill the baby, and it would take a lot less to kill the baby than it would to kill the mother. 


What do you guys think of her big secret today?  I am not a fan, but even I thought it was cool.  From the sister's perspective, how would it be to know for a couple of years that your sister was Oprah Winfrey?  I give her major kudos for not going tabloid with it.  Good for her.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: 80sfan on 01/24/11 at 7:25 pm


Actually, yes it could.  When you are pregnant the baby ingests everything you ingest.  If you eat or drink something that could kill you it could kill the baby, and it would take a lot less to kill the baby than it would to kill the mother. 


What do you guys think of her big secret today?  I am not a fan, but even I thought it was cool.  From the sister's perspective, how would it be to know for a couple of years that your sister was Oprah Winfrey?  I give her major kudos for not going tabloid with it.  Good for her.


I bet Oprah was as shocked as all of us.  :D

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/24/11 at 8:30 pm


Actually, yes it could.  When you are pregnant the baby ingests everything you ingest.  If you eat or drink something that could kill you it could kill the baby, and it would take a lot less to kill the baby than it would to kill the mother. 


What do you guys think of her big secret today?  I am not a fan, but even I thought it was cool.  From the sister's perspective, how would it be to know for a couple of years that your sister was Oprah Winfrey?  I give her major kudos for not going tabloid with it.  Good for her.



thanks for ruining it for me!  :P


actually I think it's kind of a weird show to have... why bring out a sister you just found out you had (I still have to watch it so maybe there's more too it.... )


anyway I think HOLY CRAP That'd be sooooo freaking awesome!!!!!  but then I'd feel bad because I wouldn't want to ask for anything but secretly I'd be thinking I hope oprah buys me a car or helps me get into a house or gets me a job or introduces me to tyler perry and janet jackson or lets me have andre for a day so I can get my hair did... or .......well you get the idea  :D


I don't remember dag- did you watch that NBC show last season about celebs tracing their ancestry?  There was one with (producer) lisa kudrow where she found some relatives in budapest or something... I don't know maybe germany or france... anyway she basically calls them up and says yeah we're related (cousins) can I come over and next thing you know Pheobe Buffet is in their home!!!  8)  You know I'd freak out if something like that happened to me... what If I were related to someone on Buffy or something else joss whedon worked on... or oh man this would be so awesome!!!! WHAT IF I WERE RELATED TO JOSS WHEDON?!?!?!?    he'd totally disown me after about a day!  ;D

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Dagwood on 01/24/11 at 8:40 pm




I don't remember dag- did you watch that NBC show last season about celebs tracing their ancestry?  There was one with (producer) lisa kudrow where she found some relatives in budapest or something... I don't know maybe germany or france... anyway she basically calls them up and says yeah we're related (cousins) can I come over and next thing you know Pheobe Buffet is in their home!!!  8)  You know I'd freak out if something like that happened to me... what If I were related to someone on Buffy or something else joss whedon worked on... or oh man this would be so awesome!!!! WHAT IF I WERE RELATED TO JOSS WHEDON?!?!?!?    he'd totally disown me after about a day!  ;D


Yeah, I did.  I think it is coming back next month, too. :D


Joss wouldn't know what hit him. ;D

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/24/11 at 8:48 pm


Yeah, I did.  I think it is coming back next month, too. :D


Joss wouldn't know what hit him. ;D


Joss would be like--- okay there's something more to talk about than Buffy... and I'd be like  NO WAY!!!  :o  http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/04/eek2.gif

oh yeah.... Dollhouse and Angel... which one do you wanna start with?  :D





yeah it is coming back next month... Spike Lee and Vanessa williams and I don't know who else...



oh  did you know that Oprah and Lisa Marie are cousins? Apparently some presley master, back in the day, slept with a winfrey slave and made a little Presley-Winfrey baby!  ;D

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Dagwood on 01/24/11 at 9:40 pm

I thought they did Spike Lee last season.  Wasn't that him that ended up related to a white woman?


Oprah and Lisa Marie related?  Cool. 8)

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/24/11 at 9:48 pm


I thought they did Spike Lee last season.  Wasn't that him that ended up related to a white woman?


Oprah and Lisa Marie related?  Cool. 8)


maybe he was... then it was someone like Spike lee... you know a bad ass black dude.. wesley snipes maybe? I don't remember... its been awhile since I've seen the promo.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: 80sfan on 01/24/11 at 9:52 pm

Oprah is my Hoprah!  ;D

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 01/25/11 at 6:33 am

Oprah said she has a half sister.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: danootaandme on 01/25/11 at 7:07 am


I thought they did Spike Lee last season.  Wasn't that him that ended up related to a white woman?


Oprah and Lisa Marie related?  Cool. 8)



Why is this a surprise?  A huge percentage of American blacks, and quite a few American whites, whose ancestors can be traced back before the Civil War, have "mixed blood".  The legacy of slavery, and the ability of the slave holders to rape their slaves(think Thomas Jefferson), produced many, many children.  In the post colonial era,blacks and whites married legally, so much so that those that wanted to promote racial separation to further their agenda, passed anti-misegenation laws laws to prevent it.  Just because the children were born of rape, or were not recognized as legal, doesn't mean they are any less related.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/25/11 at 12:39 pm


Oprah said she has a half sister.


again...thanks for ruining the surprise....some of us DVR oprah to watch on the weekends.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/25/11 at 12:42 pm



Why is this a surprise?  A huge percentage of American blacks, and quite a few American whites, whose ancestors can be traced back before the Civil War, have "mixed blood".  The legacy of slavery, and the ability of the slave holders to rape their slaves(think Thomas Jefferson), produced many, many children.  In the post colonial era,blacks and whites married legally, so much so that those that wanted to promote racial separation to further their agenda, passed anti-misegenation laws laws to prevent it.  Just because the children were born of rape, or were not recognized as legal, doesn't mean they are any less related.



Sorry but DUH!!! Who doesn't know that... the surprise is not that oprah has white ancestors or that Elvis & Lisa Marie have black ancestors. 

the surprise is that two of the most iconic pop culture history are related to each other.  What are the odds of that?

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Dagwood on 01/25/11 at 5:44 pm



Why is this a surprise?  A huge percentage of American blacks, and quite a few American whites, whose ancestors can be traced back before the Civil War, have "mixed blood".  The legacy of slavery, and the ability of the slave holders to rape their slaves(think Thomas Jefferson), produced many, many children.  In the post colonial era,blacks and whites married legally, so much so that those that wanted to promote racial separation to further their agenda, passed anti-misegenation laws laws to prevent it.  Just because the children were born of rape, or were not recognized as legal, doesn't mean they are any less related.


I wasn't surprised by it, I know all about the slave owners and how they treated the slaves.  I brought the relative up because I thought it would stand out and if I was wrong about it being Spike Lee it might stand out better.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 01/25/11 at 8:00 pm


again...thanks for ruining the surprise....some of us DVR oprah to watch on the weekends.


Sorry Q.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/26/11 at 1:34 am


I wasn't surprised by it, I know all about the slave owners and how they treated the slaves.  I brought the relative up because I thought it would stand out and if I was wrong about it being Spike Lee it might stand out better.


again... it's not about the racial aspect tho. It didn't surprise you that Elvis and Oprah are related? I mean they could've been related to any other black/white person but to be related to each other i still find astounding.


I could be wrong about spike lee... I think it was done last season because I thought holy crap I'm scared for that family when spike lee comes to dinner  ;D 


perhaps the ad I saw showed clips of last season and then clips of the new season and that's why I saw spike...

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: danootaandme on 01/26/11 at 7:11 am



Sorry but DUH!!! Who doesn't know that... the surprise is not that oprah has white ancestors or that Elvis & Lisa Marie have black ancestors. 

the surprise is that two of the most iconic pop culture history are related to each other.  What are the odds of that?


The odds are probably similar to the odds that Barak Obama and George Bush being related, which they are. 

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Dagwood on 01/26/11 at 7:13 am


again... it's not about the racial aspect tho. It didn't surprise you that Elvis and Oprah are related? I mean they could've been related to any other black/white person but to be related to each other i still find astounding.


I could be wrong about spike lee... I think it was done last season because I thought holy crap I'm scared for that family when spike lee comes to dinner  ;D 


perhaps the ad I saw showed clips of last season and then clips of the new season and that's why I saw spike...


It didn't surprise me to find out Elvis and Oprah are related, I just thought it was cool.  Heck, it takes a lot to surprise me anymore. ;D

I thought the same thing about the Spike Lee family.  It was one of the more interesting episodes, though.  I wouldn't mind seeing it again.  There was one that totally put me to sleep..I can't remember which but there was one incredibly boring episode.

I think they did show clips from last season, I think I also remember seeing Sara Jessica Parker in the preview and wasn't she last season?  I know they showed a snippit of Phoebe (sorry, brain cramp I can't remember the actress name.  Haven't had my coffee yet ;D )

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: danootaandme on 01/26/11 at 7:20 am


It didn't surprise me to find out Elvis and Oprah are related, I just thought it was cool.  Heck, it takes a lot to surprise me anymore. ;D

I thought the same thing about the Spike Lee family.  It was one of the more interesting episodes, though.  I wouldn't mind seeing it again.  There was one that totally put me to sleep..I can't remember which but there was one incredibly boring episode.

I think they did show clips from last season, I think I also remember seeing Sara Jessica Parker in the preview and wasn't she last season?  I know they showed a snippit of Phoebe (sorry, brain cramp I can't remember the actress name.  Haven't had my coffee yet ;D )


Sarah Jessica and hubby Matt were both in last season.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/26/11 at 8:35 am

Yeah dag the more I think of it the more I'm certain they started the ad out with clips from last season.

The snoozer ep was either Susan Sarandon or Brooke shields.
Actually matt brodericks ep was really boring but then again he's kind of boring out of character.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: danootaandme on 01/26/11 at 8:39 am



Actually matt brodericks ep was really boring but then again he's kind of boring out of character.




Will he ever come out of that closet?

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/26/11 at 8:42 am


Will he ever come out of that closet?


Nah he, Tom and Toby find it safe and cozy in their denial

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 01/26/11 at 1:42 pm


The odds are probably similar to the odds that Barak Obama and George Bush being related, which they are. 


In which way?  ???

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 01/26/11 at 1:52 pm


In which way?  ???


They're brothers. They have the same mom





shhhhh don't tell this could be fun.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: danootaandme on 01/26/11 at 1:56 pm


In which way?  ???


Samuel Hinckley and Sarah Soule were greats of both.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Dagwood on 01/26/11 at 5:52 pm


Yeah dag the more I think of it the more I'm certain they started the ad out with clips from last season.

The snoozer ep was either Susan Sarandon or Brooke shields.
Actually matt brodericks ep was really boring but then again he's kind of boring out of character.


It was Brookes...I couldn't even finish watching it.  I must have missed Susan's.  Matts was kinda boring, too.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Philip Eno on 01/29/11 at 2:13 am

Happy Birthday Oprah!

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 01/29/11 at 6:51 am

Happy Birthday.  :)

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: danootaandme on 01/29/11 at 7:55 am

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AyezJdxKHM4/SYEArOVunOI/AAAAAAAADEo/HcjdOU2ZQ7w/s400/oprah+bday+cake.jpg

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: 80sfan on 01/29/11 at 7:31 pm

Happy Birthday Queen of America.  8)

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 01/30/11 at 6:38 am

Who remembers The Oprah spoofs?

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 02/01/11 at 7:39 pm

Today on Oprah:

today 378 staffers go vegan.  If I worked for Oprah that's the week I'd take vacation  ;D

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: 80sfan on 02/01/11 at 7:48 pm


Who remembers The Oprah spoofs?


You mean on Mad tv? Those are hilarious.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 02/02/11 at 6:37 am


You mean on Mad tv? Those are hilarious.


The ones on Mad Tv.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: 80sfan on 02/02/11 at 1:34 pm


The ones on Mad Tv.


;D ;D

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 02/02/11 at 1:37 pm


;D ;D


the echo from the other thread has carried over to here apparently

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: 80sfan on 02/02/11 at 1:39 pm


the echo from the other thread has carried over to here apparently


So you can hear me!  ;)

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: 80sfan on 02/02/11 at 1:40 pm


The ones on Mad Tv.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZwSTadVGqE

8)

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: bookmistress4ever on 02/02/11 at 6:11 pm

I was watching the Gayle King show this morning and they said that the snow was so bad in Chicago that this was the first time in 20 years that they cancelled a live taping of the Oprah Winfrey Show.

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 02/02/11 at 6:50 pm

Wow. That probably pissed oprah off.  ;D

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 02/03/11 at 6:36 am

She probably went on an eating binge.  ;D

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: snozberries on 02/03/11 at 1:42 pm


She probably went on an eating binge.  ;D


That's rude Howard  >:(

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: 80sfan on 02/03/11 at 2:47 pm


She probably went on an eating binge.  ;D


;D  :(

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 02/03/11 at 7:28 pm


That's rude Howard  >:(


Howard rude?  Nevah!
;)

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: 80sfan on 02/03/11 at 7:30 pm


Howard rude?  Nevah!
;)


Where have you been? Haven't seen you in about 2 weeks! I need my weekly dose of MaxwellSmartness!!

Subject: Re: Oprah

Written By: Howard on 02/03/11 at 7:38 pm


That's rude Howard  >:(


I'm sorry.  :(

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