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Subject: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Ryan112390 on 03/01/11 at 8:59 am

Do you believe that the 2010s will begin a return to more 'formal' clothes being worn in more casual situations--in essence, in some ways, a move backward? I mean more dressy clothes being acceptable for casual situations, and perhaps a move away from the utterly casual jeans and t-shirt to maybe dress shirts returning as normal wear for men, suits returning to prominence and maybe a return of hat wearing for men?

Fashion (for men anyway) has stagnated since the 1980s--the jeans, t-shirt and sneakers uniform is becoming a bit boring. Why not go back to a classier form of dress? I think the casual attire of men and women from the 1930s-early 1970s (I'm talking about mainstream people, not counter-culture people) was very classy--Gloves and elegant dresses for women and their furs about their necks, fedoras for men and double breasted suits and/or three-piece-suits--was a lot classier than today's wear. Today's casual dress is so sloppy and casual, no sense of elegance or class. Even a return to more formal hairstyles--like the short, slicked back look of the '30s-70s--would be cool

Compare some of our past Presidents to our modern one:
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http://timesonline.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/03/02/harold_wilson_and_lyndon_johnson.jpg
http://securityindustrynewstoday.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/36-lyndon_johnson_14x18.jpg
http://cache2.artprintimages.com/p/LRG/26/2697/H7PUD00Z/art-print/george-skadding-president-harry-s-truman-arriving-in-key-west-wearing-hawaiian-shirt.jpg
http://stubbornfacts.us/files/nixon.jpg
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/05/21/books/obama-reads-533.jpg

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Shiv on 03/01/11 at 9:37 am

That would be interesting.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Mat1991 on 03/01/11 at 10:13 am

Not to say that I dislike the idea, but I wonder if that would be a tangible goal. Our society has changed a great deal since the days of fedoras and dress skirts. I don't think formal wear has been in fashion since the '60s.

I'm not saying it's impossible, because since "retro" is still in vogue, anything could happen.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: 80sfan on 03/01/11 at 12:28 pm

I think since the 90s we've been in an 'anything goes' mood and it might be like that for the next 200 years or so (just a guess, Lol).

And since the revolution of the 60s we've been trying to get away from the overly conservative way we dressed before the 60s!

What we forget is that the 50s to about the 90s was a special era where the way we dressed changed every decade. We forget that a person in 1899 dressed pretty much the same as a person did in 1800. I mean, there were subtle differences, but overall the look was the same.

Who knows? Maybe we'll be dressing the same for the next few hundred years.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Emman on 03/01/11 at 1:38 pm


I think since the 90s we've been in an 'anything goes' mood and it might be like that for the next 200 years or so (just a guess, Lol).

And since the revolution of the 60s we've been trying to get away from the overly conservative way we dressed before the 60s!

What we forget is that the 50s to about the 90s was a special era where the way we dressed changed every decade. We forget that a person in 1899 dressed pretty much the same as a person did in 1800. I mean, there were subtle differences, but overall the look was the same.

Who knows? Maybe we'll be dressing the same for the next few hundred years.


Fashion still changed like every 3-4 years in the 00s/early 10s, the last major fashion change came around 2008-ish. Our culture is just becoming more individualist in a sense, everyone does not have to follow the current fashion trends to be accepted or considered "cool"(I think this is a good thing). I do think fashion in the 10s is moving toward a suave, urbane, vaguely 40s-ish look, not exactly the same as formal wear from the pre 60s era, but with a modern twist.
I associate the very casual "anti-fashion", minimalist look with the 90s and early 00s, since around 2006/2007 and especially 2008 I've noticed the fashion trends either moving in a indie-ish, neon rainbow colored look(I think of MGMT) or the more dark and suave v neck shirt, short fitting vest, scarf look(especially for men), there is also the "guido" look of Jersey Shore.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: RG1995 on 03/01/11 at 2:12 pm

It isn't going to happen....ever.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Creeder on 03/01/11 at 4:13 pm

T-Shirt + Jeans - neverending style.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Ryan112390 on 03/01/11 at 5:20 pm


T-Shirt + Jeans - neverending style.


It's becoming a uniform. It's way too casual.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Howard on 03/01/11 at 7:25 pm

How about going back to the time of wearing top hats? http://npaulette.tripod.com/tophat.jpg

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: LyricBoy on 03/01/11 at 7:42 pm

Hopefully cigarette holders will come back into style too:

http://www.picturehistory.com/images/products/1/4/6/prod_14683.jpg

Dude really looks like he's enjoying that smoke a little TOO much.  ;D

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Howard on 03/01/11 at 7:47 pm


Hopefully cigarette holders will come back into style too:

http://www.picturehistory.com/images/products/1/4/6/prod_14683.jpg

Dude really looks like he's enjoying that smoke a little TOO much.   ;D


Those are out of style.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: LyricBoy on 03/01/11 at 8:06 pm


Those are out of style.


That's why I hope they will come back.

Of course, using candy cigarettes.  ;)

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: whistledog on 03/01/11 at 8:20 pm


That's why I hope they will come back.

Of course, using candy cigarettes.  ;)


Or those Water Vapour cigarettes that look like you are smoking, but you're n ot.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: lorac61469 on 03/01/11 at 8:48 pm


That's why I hope they will come back.

Of course, using candy cigarettes.   ;)


They don't call them candy cigarettes any more, they're candy "stix".  (Boxes still look like cigarette packs  ??? )

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: RG1995 on 03/01/11 at 9:03 pm


T-Shirt + Jeans - neverending style.
And I'll gladly accept that. I'd rather wear something comfortable than waste my time putting on something formal.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Mat1991 on 03/01/11 at 9:07 pm


And I'll gladly accept that. I'd rather wear something comfortable than waste my time putting on something formal.


My thoughts exactly.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: LyricBoy on 03/02/11 at 5:39 am


Or those Water Vapour cigarettes that look like you are smoking, but you're n ot.


I could only hope to be that stylish and sophisticated.  ;D

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Howard on 03/02/11 at 6:37 am


That's why I hope they will come back.

Of course, using candy cigarettes.   ;)


I loved candy cigarettes,people thought you were really smoking but it was actually powder that you were puffing.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Howard on 03/02/11 at 6:41 am

How about back to the 70's look with afro hairdos,Hawaiian shirts and big pants?

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: batfan2005 on 03/02/11 at 5:04 pm

I have noticed that back here in the States (at least here in Atlanta), that the women are dressing a lot nicer and more like their counterparts in Europe and Asia have always been, and not so much the frumpy look that was in style in the mid-00's.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: LyricBoy on 03/02/11 at 6:53 pm


How about back to the 70's look with afro hairdos,Hawaiian shirts and big pants?


Maybe even parachute pants, too.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Howard on 03/02/11 at 7:29 pm


Maybe even parachute pants, too.


That would be nice.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: tv on 03/03/11 at 5:24 pm


I have noticed that back here in the States (at least here in Atlanta), that the women are dressing a lot nicer and more like their counterparts in Europe and Asia have always been, and not so much the frumpy look that was in style in the mid-00's.
Funny Atlanta was the mecca of hip-hop for most of the 00's.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: tv on 03/03/11 at 5:26 pm


Hopefully cigarette holders will come back into style too:

http://www.picturehistory.com/images/products/1/4/6/prod_14683.jpg

Dude really looks like he's enjoying that smoke a little TOO much.   ;D
That looks like Harry Truman.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: LyricBoy on 03/03/11 at 6:46 pm


That looks like Harry Truman.


That's FDR...

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: nintieskid999 on 03/03/11 at 6:55 pm


My thoughts exactly.


Ditto

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Howard on 03/04/11 at 6:50 am

How about dressing like the 1980's?

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: 80sfan on 03/04/11 at 6:54 am


How about dressing like the 1980's?


I would love that, being an 80s fan that I am, but I doubt it'll come back any time soon.  :-\\

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Howard on 03/04/11 at 6:55 am


I would love that, being an 80s fan that I am, but I doubt it'll come back any time soon.  :-\\


I liked the way girls dressed back in the days. ;)

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: RG1995 on 03/04/11 at 2:06 pm


I liked the way girls dressed back in the days. ;)
Same and I wasn't even alive yet!  :D

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Howard on 03/04/11 at 7:46 pm


Same and I wasn't even alive yet!   :D


I was in my early teens.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Emman on 03/05/11 at 2:14 am


I would love that, being an 80s fan that I am, but I doubt it'll come back any time soon.  :-\\


80s fashion has come back in vogue for several years now(leggings, members only jackets, neon colors, many many more), what the heck are you talking about?

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Howard on 03/05/11 at 6:37 am


80s fashion has come back in vogue for several years now(leggings, members only jackets, neon colors, many many more), what the heck are you talking about?


I've seen it while people are walking down the street.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: LyricBoy on 03/05/11 at 10:13 am


80s fashion has come back in vogue for several years now(leggings, members only jackets, neon colors, many many more), what the heck are you talking about?


Cool.  8)

I have a members only jacket in the closet.  Perhaps it is time to start wearing it again.  ???

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: 80sfan on 03/05/11 at 11:00 am


80s fashion has come back in vogue for several years now(leggings, members only jackets, neon colors, many many more), what the heck are you talking about?


Oops!.... you told me! Gotta go!  :(

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Howard on 03/05/11 at 7:15 pm


Cool.   8)

I have a members only jacket in the closet.  Perhaps it is time to start wearing it again.  ???


Do you have any Polo Shirts? ???

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: LyricBoy on 03/05/11 at 8:20 pm


Do you have any Polo Shirts? ???


No I never had any Polo stuff.

I did have an Izod alligator-logo jacket but it is long gone.  8)

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Howard on 03/06/11 at 6:56 am


No I never had any Polo stuff.

I did have an Izod alligator-logo jacket but it is long gone.   8)


I remember The Izod shirts.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: MidKnightDarkness on 03/07/11 at 7:31 pm

I've been hoping that formal dress for casual situations makes a comeback for many years. Myself, I only own one pair of jeans and I don't think I own a single t-shirt. I just feel much more comfortable in dress clothes! Vintage (1930's-1950's) dresses, mostly. I've collected them for a very long time, and they've managed to push all of my typical casual wear right out of my wardrobe.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: AL-B Mk. III on 03/10/11 at 4:48 pm

I've always liked fedoras and trilby hats and I bought a cheap straw one for about $10 (and it actually looks good on me), but it seems like the only people who wear them are either pretentious hipsters or douchey frat-boy types so I'm very reluctant to wear it in public.

I really wish they'd come back in style.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Marian on 03/12/11 at 3:14 pm


It's becoming a uniform. It's way too casual.
I wouldn't want Snuggies to be acceptable to wear in public.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Howard on 03/12/11 at 7:05 pm


I wouldn't want Snuggies to be acceptable to wear in public.


It looks like a blanket over your body.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Mat1991 on 03/12/11 at 8:34 pm


It looks like a blanket over your body.


It's a blanket with sleeves!  :D

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Howard on 03/13/11 at 7:46 am


It's a blanket with sleeves!  :D


I wouldn't wear that walking down the street.  ::)

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: silhouette on 03/14/11 at 7:32 pm


Those are out of style.

Nothing related to Miss Hepburn could ever be out of style.  ;)
http://oi54.tinypic.com/99mern.jpg

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Superfly2008 on 03/19/11 at 3:20 am

hell, no!  8-P I'm 21, and not me, not anyone my age, or younger will dress up unless they have to for work or something. I'll wear whatever i have to for work, but on my own time, I'm not wearing a suit. Right now, I'm wearing a t shirt, a buttoned up neon, a green hoodie, some slim leg jeans, and converse shoes. I hate dressing up  >:(

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/19/11 at 5:06 am


Nothing related to Miss Hepburn could ever be out of style.  ;)
http://oi54.tinypic.com/99mern.jpg
....smoking ?

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Howard on 03/19/11 at 6:26 am


....smoking ?


It looks like she's smoking.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/19/11 at 6:59 am


It looks like she's smoking.
Not the in thing to do today.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Howard on 03/19/11 at 7:09 am


Not the in thing to do today.



not in 2011.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/19/11 at 7:13 am



not in 2011.
A very unpleasant habit.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Howard on 03/19/11 at 7:23 pm


A very unpleasant habit.


people smoke with their fingers.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: DizzMcMinyard on 03/28/11 at 6:07 pm

Don't turn this into a anti-smoking argument, lol. Formal wear is definitely making a return, I have a friend who works at Dunkin Donuts, apparently they are moving to more formal wear, just like Walmart did a couple years ago. No pne is talking about ties outside of work and clubs, but dressing more "up" is definitely the style now, and I believe it will increase, think Bradley Cooper style. Not over done like Mad Men, which is a work environment.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Shiv on 03/29/11 at 6:36 am


People are too lazy to dress up.

I'm kind of a hybrid...obviously I don't wear a suit when I go out to do stuff, but I don't like to just wear jeans and a tshirt either (except in the summer). I usually wear at least some kind of jacket or scarf or something. and dress shirts.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Howard on 03/29/11 at 6:39 am


People are too lazy to dress up.

I'm kind of a hybrid...obviously I don't wear a suit when I go out to do stuff, but I don't like to just wear jeans and a tshirt either (except in the summer). I usually wear at least some kind of jacket or scarf or something. and dress shirts.


During the summertime at Pathmark,I wore a shirt and tie and people were wondering why I was doing this? And I said "I'm bringing professionalism back" meaning this should be the way cartguys should dress or something like it. I get more attention that way.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Foo Bar on 04/01/11 at 9:30 pm


During the summertime at Pathmark,I wore a shirt and tie and people were wondering why I was doing this? And I said "I'm bringing professionalism back" meaning this should be the way cartguys should dress or something like it. I get more attention that way.


Nevertheless, are you dressed for the occasion?
Mad props to Howard Cart Guy for this, the inspiration,
Sum 41, I'm sorry 'bout this crazy situation,
This parody needs to be written 'fore I'm out on my vacation.

(Carts!  It's what he's all about,
It's what he lives for, c'mon shout it out!)

xr9NmG68vPQ

Well he brings down the house, keeps 'mark in business today,
Just by movin out the carts in the usual way,
Sometimes his posts got a smell real funky,
Like makin' fun of Becky Black from her grade school party,
He can keep the beat but he can't breakdance,
It's hard to look cool in a shirt and pants,
And a tie that he wears, even if it looks wack,
It's a professional way to bring the '80s back.

- Props to Howard and apologies to Sum 41 for what I did to a couple of verses of their 2002 hit.  Lyrics in public domain, someone more talented than me, please finish this parody!  (I seriously can't beat the original lines about waking up to the pound of bacon, because, umm, I actually do that a couple of times a year, just because I can.)

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: youngerderek on 04/03/11 at 7:32 am

It seems like it keeps getting less and less formal. Even in the 90s, could you imagine wearing pajamas to the grocery store?

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Creeder on 04/03/11 at 9:18 am

Bring back the baggy pants.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Philip Eno on 04/03/11 at 9:21 am


Bring back the baggy pants.
Parachute pants?

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Creeder on 04/03/11 at 9:30 am


Parachute pants?

Yeah, that late 90s fashion, but not the extreme niger pants though.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Howard on 04/03/11 at 1:02 pm


It seems like it keeps getting less and less formal. Even in the 90s, could you imagine wearing pajamas to the grocery store?


I've been seeing that a lot lately.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Howard on 04/03/11 at 1:03 pm


Yeah, that late 90s fashion, but not the extreme niger pants though.


I'd like to see the 70's fashion return.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Shiv on 04/03/11 at 9:30 pm


Bring back the baggy pants.


no.

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: youngerderek on 04/05/11 at 3:36 am


no.


second .... noooo!! 15 years of sagging was enough!!!

Subject: Re: A return to more formal wear?

Written By: Howard on 04/05/11 at 6:44 am

bring back jericurls and afro hairdos.

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