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Subject: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Ryan112390 on 07/08/11 at 5:56 pm

For over twenty years now, since the end of the 80s/beginning of the 90s, the goatee has enjoyed continued popularity as the facial hair styling of choice for men of the Baby Boom and Gen X generations. They started as an underground facial hair style, with the Seattle grungers and those like them, and in artistic circles. For years prior to the '80s, the goatee was, in pop culture, the sign of either a Bad guy (see evil Spock and many other goateed villains), a sleazo, a loser (see Shaggy from Scooby Doo and Maynard G. Krebs), or a militant (see Malcolm X and the like). But in the early 90s they emerged from the underground due to the influence of movie stars like Brad Pitt and Keanu Reeves and musicians like Kurt Cobain and many others. By the mid 90s they had became mainstream and by the late 90s they were the de facto, hot style of choice.

But with the 2011s, do you think we'll finally see the goatee declining in popularity?

Consider that the full beard exploded in popularity in the 1850s-1860s but after the 1890s or so until the 1960s, having a full beard was considered weird, eccentric,  or the mark of an older man--Not many young or even middle aged men wore full beards by the 1920s. Now beards in almost every sort of style are considered acceptable and worn by bums and professionals alike and in some cases are manicured just so--See Steve Jobs, for example.

Or consider the solo mustache--Largely popular in many widely varied styles with men of all ages from the 1860s-early 1990s; Has hit a dive in popularity since, but in the last few years has been becoming popular again.

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: tv on 07/08/11 at 5:58 pm

The beard is really popular again.

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 07/08/11 at 6:27 pm


For over twenty years now, since the end of the 80s/beginning of the 90s, the goatee has enjoyed continued popularity as the facial hair styling of choice for men of the Baby Boom and Gen X generations. They started as an underground facial hair style, with the Seattle grungers and those like them, and in artistic circles. For years prior to the '80s, the goatee was, in pop culture, the sign of either a Bad guy (see evil Spock and many other goateed villains), a sleazo, a loser (see Shaggy from Scooby Doo and Maynard G. Krebs), or a militant (see Malcolm X and the like). But in the early 90s they emerged from the underground due to the influence of movie stars like Brad Pitt and Keanu Reeves and musicians like Kurt Cobain and many others. By the mid 90s they had became mainstream and by the late 90s they were the de facto, hot style of choice.

But with the 2011s, do you think we'll finally see the goatee declining in popularity?

Consider that the full beard exploded in popularity in the 1850s-1860s but after the 1890s or so until the 1960s, having a full beard was considered weird, eccentric,  or the mark of an older man--Not many young or even middle aged men wore full beards by the 1920s. Now beards in almost every sort of style are considered acceptable and worn by bums and professionals alike and in some cases are manicured just so--See Steve Jobs, for example.

Or consider the solo mustache--Largely popular in many widely varied styles with men of all ages from the 1860s-early 1990s; Has hit a dive in popularity since, but in the last few years has been becoming popular again.


Hey, don't you call Shaggy and Maynard losers!  They were cool dudes!
8)

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: LyricBoy on 07/08/11 at 6:44 pm


Or consider the solo mustache--Largely popular in many widely varied styles with men of all ages from the 1860s-early 1990s; Has hit a dive in popularity since, but in the last few years has been becoming popular again.


I've had my pornstache since 1979.  ;D

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Howard on 07/08/11 at 7:04 pm

As for me,my goatee came to an end 7 years ago,I do not want anymore facial hair.

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Howard on 07/08/11 at 7:05 pm


I've had my pornstache since 1979.   ;D


32 years?  :o

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: LyricBoy on 07/08/11 at 7:11 pm


32 years?  :o


Yep.  8)

I had a few beards over the years.  Last one was in 2003 but it was so grey it made me look like an old man.  :o

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Howard on 07/08/11 at 7:14 pm


Yep.   8)

I had a few beards over the years.  Last one was in 2003 but it was so grey it made me look like an old man.  :o


Do you ever want to shave it all off?  ???

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: LyricBoy on 07/08/11 at 8:00 pm


Do you ever want to shave it all off?  ???


Nope.  I just wish I could grow one as thick as that dude in The Village People.  ;D

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Emman on 07/08/11 at 9:19 pm

I like my goatee, I don't want to shave it off.

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Shiv on 07/08/11 at 10:03 pm

Full beards are really popular again, mustaches not so much. Goatees aren't really that popular with younger people but a lot of people in their 30s-50s still have them.

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Dagwood on 07/08/11 at 10:09 pm

I like facial hair on a man.  I hope it never goes away. :)

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: whistledog on 07/08/11 at 10:11 pm


For over twenty years now, since the end of the 80s/beginning of the 90s, the goatee has enjoyed continued popularity as the facial hair styling of choice for men of the Baby Boom and Gen X generations. They started as an underground facial hair style, with the Seattle grungers and those like them, and in artistic circles. For years prior to the '80s, the goatee was, in pop culture, the sign of either a Bad guy (see evil Spock and many other goateed villains), a sleazo, a loser (see Shaggy from Scooby Doo and Maynard G. Krebs), or a militant (see Malcolm X and the like). But in the early 90s they emerged from the underground due to the influence of movie stars like Brad Pitt and Keanu Reeves and musicians like Kurt Cobain and many others. By the mid 90s they had became mainstream and by the late 90s they were the de facto, hot style of choice.

But with the 2011s, do you think we'll finally see the goatee declining in popularity?

Consider that the full beard exploded in popularity in the 1850s-1860s but after the 1890s or so until the 1960s, having a full beard was considered weird, eccentric,  or the mark of an older man--Not many young or even middle aged men wore full beards by the 1920s. Now beards in almost every sort of style are considered acceptable and worn by bums and professionals alike and in some cases are manicured just so--See Steve Jobs, for example.

Or consider the solo mustache--Largely popular in many widely varied styles with men of all ages from the 1860s-early 1990s; Has hit a dive in popularity since, but in the last few years has been becoming popular again.


You turned facial hair into a decadeology discussion?  Really?

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Ryan112390 on 07/08/11 at 11:02 pm


You turned facial hair into a decadeology discussion?  Really?


How is it decadeology?
All I did was use the popularity of other facial hair styles to illustrate how these trends seem to work out. I'm not saying 2011 = 1860, or "how is 2011 like 1860". The question is in the thread title. And I have a little history--Is it not true that the goatee first began popped in the mainstream in the 90s?

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: whistledog on 07/08/11 at 11:28 pm


How is it decadeology?
All I did was use the popularity of other facial hair styles to illustrate how these trends seem to work out. I'm not saying 2011 = 1860, or "how is 2011 like 1860". The question is in the thread title. And I have a little history--Is it not true that the goatee first began popped in the mainstream in the 90s?


It's not really, but somehow you managed to compare 1990 to 1860 through facial hair.  It's a bit puzzling

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Midas on 07/09/11 at 12:17 am

My wife likes the goatee, so frankly Rhett...


:D

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Ryan112390 on 07/09/11 at 1:47 am


It's not really, but somehow you managed to compare 1990 to 1860 through facial hair.  It's a bit puzzling


But I wasn't comparing them. I was simply saying, facial hair (along with hair in general) seems to run in cyclic trends. It's just a fact. I've read books on this stuff. I mean look at the 1700s--All wigs, no facial hair, etc. In fact, I read a story of one guy who lived in mid-late 1700s America who was shunned, assaulted and even arrested for wearing a beard--that's how badly they were thought of. And by the time he died in the 1850s, most men were wearing beards. It's not a comparison if you're just stating history.

I wasn't saying 1860 = 1990.

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Howard on 07/09/11 at 6:44 am


Nope.  I just wish I could grow one as thick as that dude in The Village People.  ;D


http://therollerblog.com/wp-content/uploads/pictures/migration/GlennHughes_VillagePeople.jpg


Glenn Hughes had a big moustache.

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Howard on 07/09/11 at 6:45 am


Full beards are really popular again, mustaches not so much. Goatees aren't really that popular with younger people but a lot of people in their 30s-50s still have them.


I don't,I want to shave every day and continue to have a babyface look.

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: LyricBoy on 07/09/11 at 6:54 am


http://therollerblog.com/wp-content/uploads/pictures/migration/GlennHughes_VillagePeople.jpg

Glenn Hughes had a big moustache.

Yeah, that's the look I wish I could grow.

It would be so cool to be able to have a thick 'stache like that and cruise around town on a Harley.  8)

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Howard on 07/09/11 at 6:55 am


Yeah, that's the look I wish I could grow.

It would be so cool to be able to have a thick 'stache like that and cruise around town on a Harley.  8)


But won't it get in the way of eating or drinking? ???

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: LyricBoy on 07/09/11 at 7:34 am


But won't it get in the way of eating or drinking? ???


A small price to pay for coolness.  ;)

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Ryan112390 on 07/09/11 at 8:18 am


http://therollerblog.com/wp-content/uploads/pictures/migration/GlennHughes_VillagePeople.jpg


Glenn Hughes had a big moustache.


What's ironic too is that he was actually straight.
Believe it or not, only two members of the Village People were gay--the Indian and Construction worker.

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Creeder on 07/09/11 at 3:57 pm


What's ironic too is that he was actually straight

I knew it. ;D

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Howard on 07/09/11 at 7:02 pm


A small price to pay for coolness.   ;)


The last time I had a moustache was 2003 but I shaved it all off and never want facial hair again.

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Howard on 07/09/11 at 7:03 pm


What's ironic too is that he was actually straight.
Believe it or not, only two members of the Village People were gay--the Indian and Construction worker.


I thought he was openly gay? ???

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: whistledog on 07/09/11 at 7:57 pm


What's ironic too is that he was actually straight.
Believe it or not, only two members of the Village People were gay--the Indian and Construction worker.


But why would that matter?

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 07/09/11 at 8:37 pm


I've had my pornstache since 1979.   ;D


Duuuude!
http://174.36.163.11/thumbs/20/965/159728_15.jpg
http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/13/icon_thumleft.gif

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Ryan112390 on 07/09/11 at 8:47 pm


I thought he was openly gay? ???
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No. Look it up--I happened upon it once. Only two of the original members were gay. It was an act for all but two of them. Glenn Hughes was straight and yet his image is, out of all the Village People, the most associated with homosexuality. I'd never wear a horseshoe mustache because

A) IMO it looks silly unless you're a rock star or a wrestler or something

B) The connotation with it to homosexuality. I have a hard enough time getting a date as it is, I don't need women thinking I'm a gay biker or a redneck stuck in the '80s.

That's why I myself wear a small mustache, similar in style to the kind which Marlon Brando wore as Vito Corleone.

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Howard on 07/10/11 at 6:58 am


Duuuude!
http://174.36.163.11/thumbs/20/965/159728_15.jpg
http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/13/icon_thumleft.gif


Now that's a 'stache.

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: LyricBoy on 07/10/11 at 7:22 am


I thought he was openly gay? ???


In the Village People, if you were STRAIGHT you had to stay in the closet.  :D

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Howard on 07/10/11 at 7:25 am

http://www.candyapplecostumes.com/images/50815xl-3.jpg

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: LyricBoy on 07/10/11 at 8:34 am


Duuuude!
http://174.36.163.11/thumbs/20/965/159728_15.jpg
http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/13/icon_thumleft.gif


Yes his was the ultimate pornstache.  8)

I'll see your pornstache and raise you a befuddled Wannstache  ;D

http://www.nflpassers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/dave-wannstedt.jpg

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: danootaandme on 07/10/11 at 8:43 am

Some guys can wear 'em, some guys can't

OH YES!!

http://www.wildsound-filmmaking-feedback-events.com/images/johnny_depp_goatee.jpg

OH NO!!!

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/63984/thumbs/s-MEL-GIBSON-large.jpg

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Howard on 07/10/11 at 1:54 pm


Some guys can wear 'em, some guys can't

OH YES!!

http://www.wildsound-filmmaking-feedback-events.com/images/johnny_depp_goatee.jpg

OH NO!!!

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/63984/thumbs/s-MEL-GIBSON-large.jpg


Mel Gibson looks like The Devil. ;D

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Step-chan on 07/10/11 at 4:31 pm

I've never looked good with facial hair myself.

As for goatees... I don't when they will end, if ever.

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Ryan112390 on 07/10/11 at 4:44 pm

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e52/ginsu_chef/misk%20gimix/don_vito.jpg?t=1242305156 FTW

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 07/10/11 at 6:03 pm


Some guys can wear 'em, some guys can't



Don't forget the ladies!

http://images.triplem.com.au/2009/10/29/290973/women-with-facial-hair-17-600x400.jpg

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: whistledog on 07/11/11 at 12:24 am


Don't forget the ladies!

http://images.triplem.com.au/2009/10/29/290973/women-with-facial-hair-17-600x400.jpg


Are you sure that is a lady?

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: danootaandme on 07/11/11 at 4:20 am


http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e52/ginsu_chef/misk%20gimix/don_vito.jpg?t=1242305156 FTW


That's a mustache, I have a fondness for a nice mustache

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Howard on 07/11/11 at 6:36 am


Don't forget the ladies!

http://images.triplem.com.au/2009/10/29/290973/women-with-facial-hair-17-600x400.jpg


http://theoldsilly.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/bearded-woman-2.jpg

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Howard on 07/11/11 at 6:37 am


Are you sure that is a lady?


gotta check the goods first! ;) :D

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: whistledog on 07/11/11 at 6:13 pm


gotta check the goods first! ;) :D


I'll let you do that

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1I7KiCuAU4k/TUUn-EBGD5I/AAAAAAAAGgA/tQOaIj6-U2M/s1600/crocodile_dundee_kidicarus222.jpg

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 07/11/11 at 9:34 pm

If you're going to go with a mustache...

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.stylelist.com/media/2010/11/salvador-dali-famous-moustache-240ls110410.jpg

L'Age D'Warhol
http://dcartnews.blogspot.com/dalikissingwarhol.jpg
:P

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Foo Bar on 07/11/11 at 11:37 pm


Duuuude!


I see what you did there.  Hey, it was a living.

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Howard on 07/12/11 at 6:45 am


I'll let you do that

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1I7KiCuAU4k/TUUn-EBGD5I/AAAAAAAAGgA/tQOaIj6-U2M/s1600/crocodile_dundee_kidicarus222.jpg


No you first I insist.  :D

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: donnie_____darko on 07/26/11 at 4:11 pm

i wasn't aware goatees were still cool?  ;D

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Tia on 07/26/11 at 7:11 pm


You turned facial hair into a decadeology discussion?  Really?
i'm listening to a bio of teddy roosevelt, who got made fun of for his 'stache during the manly-man spanish-american war. (EIGHTEEN-NINETIES.) but when he was young he felt inadequate cuz his dad had a 'stache and he didn't. (bear in mind this is the hip 1890s handlebar doo.) so it cut both ways, it was seen as manly but over-sophisticated, in that it made you look like a "dude." (that is, an easterner who'd never been hardened in the frontier. which, in TR's case, was a bit ironic.)

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Tia on 07/26/11 at 7:13 pm


http://theoldsilly.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/bearded-woman-2.jpg
lyricboy? can we get an "i'd hit it but i wouldn't admit it?"

incidentally...

http://www.awesomeoff.com/images/entries/mainview/teddy_portrait.jpg

he does look like kinda a poser.

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 07/26/11 at 9:03 pm




http://www.awesomeoff.com/images/entries/mainview/teddy_portrait.jpg

he does look like kinda a poser.


The pince nez kills the ensemble!
http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/12/glasses2.gif

http://www.oslhp.net/museum/Virtual%20Museum/scientific-medical/Spectacles/1885%20Pince%20Nez.jpg

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Howard on 07/27/11 at 6:43 am


lyricboy? can we get an "i'd hit it but i wouldn't admit it?"

incidentally...

http://www.awesomeoff.com/images/entries/mainview/teddy_portrait.jpg

he does look like kinda a poser.


looks like Kim Kardashian.

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: MrCleveland on 07/27/11 at 12:33 pm

I have a goatee right now. As well as a Soul Patch and Moustache...and they don't connect with each other.

I think that's a Van Dyke or French Beard.

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 07/27/11 at 5:58 pm


I have a goatee right now. As well as a Soul Patch and Moustache...and they don't connect with each other.

I think that's a Van Dyke or French Beard.


If you shave your pubes as such, is it a Dick Van Dyke?
http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/13/idea1.gif
http://www.wahlnation.com/Content/images/encyclopedia/vanDyke-large.gif

Subject: Re: Will the goatee's reign come to an end?

Written By: Howard on 07/27/11 at 7:35 pm


If you shave your pubes as such, is it a Dick Van Dyke?
http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/13/idea1.gif
http://www.wahlnation.com/Content/images/encyclopedia/vanDyke-large.gif



why would a guy want to? It's too sexy.  ;)

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