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Subject: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: WebTraveller on 01/20/16 at 10:24 am

I cant really see the 20's being much different from the 10's, what do you guys think?

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: mqg96 on 01/20/16 at 10:42 am

I predict that the 2020's will be a very transitional decade. I think the first 3 or 4 years (2020-2022/2023) will still feel like the 2010's era, however, throughout the mid-late part of the 2020's decade our new updated culture will be established, and it will come out of no where. If our new president gets reelected in 2020, then the start of 2025 would be the perfect set date to predict that start of that major cultural shift. I think by then all of the few 90's models of cars left we still see around will officially become extinct. More solar cars will start being driven and solar roadways will start being built. A new era or style of music will come out of no where. Something revolutionary will come out that will be bigger than the internet and social media. Maybe even a new video game console bigger than the Kinect where it'll feel like your consciousness is inside of the game, like how the Video Game High School series was, and the graphics will make it feel like its real. History has told us that whenever there's something futuristic that is predicted in a movie or show where people are like "it's impossible for this to happen", decades later it ends up being invented. So I guess we'll have to see.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: 80sfan on 01/20/16 at 10:46 am

Lots of protest and revolution.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: musicguy93 on 01/20/16 at 11:16 am


I predict that the 2020's will be a very transitional decade. I think the first 3 or 4 years (2020-2022/2023) will still feel like the 2010's era, however, throughout the mid-late part of the 2020's decade our new updated culture will be established, and it will come out of no where. If our new president gets reelected in 2020, then the start of 2025 would be the perfect set date to predict that start of that major cultural shift. I think by then all of the few 90's models of cars left we still see around will officially become extinct. More solar cars will start being driven and solar roadways will start being built. A new era or style of music will come out of no where. Something revolutionary will come out that will be bigger than the internet and social media. Maybe even a new video game console bigger than the Kinect where it'll feel like your consciousness is inside of the game, like how the Video Game High School series was, and the graphics will make it feel like its real. History has told us that whenever there's something futuristic that is predicted in a movie or show where people are like "it's impossible for this to happen", decades later it ends up being invented. So I guess we'll have to see.


2020-2022/2023 probably still feel like the late 2010s (2017/2018-2019). But mid 2010s? Seems unlikely.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: Toon on 01/20/16 at 11:18 am


I cant really see the 20's being much different from the 10's, what do you guys think?


We haven't even gotten to the late '10s yet. Can't go predicting how the '20s will be unless you can see into the future.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: musicguy93 on 01/20/16 at 11:21 am


I cant really see the 20's being much different from the 10's, what do you guys think?


Why? I mean, the current culture doesn't seem to have that much longevity. Plus a lot can (and probably will) change from 2017-2019.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: mqg96 on 01/20/16 at 11:23 am


Why? I mean, the current culture doesn't seem to have much longevity. Plus a lot can (and probably will) change from 2017-2019.


History has told us that late 2016-mid 2017 will be the transition from mid 2010's to late 2010's pop culturally. 2015 will be looked back as the quintessential year of the mid 2010's.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: musicguy93 on 01/20/16 at 11:25 am


History has told us that late 2016-mid 2017 will be the transition from mid 2010's to late 2010's pop culturally. 2015 will be looked back as the quintessential year of the mid 2010's.


Kind of like late 1996-mid 1997, right? Anyway, I agree that 2015 will probably be the quintessential year of the mid 2010s. Especially during the 2015-2016 school year.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: mqg96 on 01/20/16 at 11:37 am


Kind of like late 1996-mid 1997, right? Anyway, I agree that 2015 will probably be the quintessential year of the mid 2010s. Especially during the 2015-2016 school year.


Sorta. Think of it like this. The same season or school year a new president has gotten elected and inaugurated, has ended up being huge transitional periods for the pop culture all of the sudden out of no where.

Late 2000-mid 2001, was the transition from late 90's to early 2000's pop culturally, same school year George Bush was elected and inaugurated, the transition from 5th generation to 6th generation gaming, 2001 being the first year of 2000's cultural movies like Fast & Furious, Shrek, Lord of the Rings, etc. then by the time 9/11 happened early 2000's culture was in full effect.

Late 2008-mid 2009, the transition from late 2000's to early 2010's pop culturally, same school year Barack Obama was elected and inaugurated, and a lot of stuff changed that year! It was huge from what I remember. Like the electropop era of music beginning (BOOM BOOM POW!), HD screens becoming the norm (Youtube went HD this same school year too), the beginning of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Myspace transitioning over to Facebook, etc.

Not sure about how late 1992-mid 1993 turned out, but with Bill Clinton getting elected and inaugurated that year, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the early 90's to mid 90's transition pop culturally.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: Arrowstone on 01/20/16 at 11:52 am

I somehow imagine it as very slick, tech, 80s like, but also there will be lots of social tensions.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: musicguy93 on 01/20/16 at 12:14 pm


Sorta. Think of it like this. The same season or school year a new president has gotten elected and inaugurated, has ended up being huge transitional periods for the pop culture all of the sudden out of no where.

Late 2000-mid 2001, was the transition from late 90's to early 2000's pop culturally, same school year George Bush was elected and inaugurated, the transition from 5th generation to 6th generation gaming, 2001 being the first year of 2000's cultural movies like Fast & Furious, Shrek, Lord of the Rings, etc. then by the time 9/11 happened early 2000's culture was in full effect.

Late 2008-mid 2009, the transition from late 2000's to early 2010's pop culturally, same school year Barack Obama was elected and inaugurated, and a lot of stuff changed that year! It was huge from what I remember. Like the electropop era of music beginning (BOOM BOOM POW!), HD screens becoming the norm (Youtube went HD this same school year too), the beginning of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Myspace transitioning over to Facebook, etc.

Not sure about how late 1992-mid 1993 turned out, but with Bill Clinton getting elected and inaugurated that year, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the early 90's to mid 90's transition pop culturally.


I think presidential elections are general markers for pop cultural change, but aren't always an exact way to measure transitional periods. I don't really feel that late 2000-2001 was the complete transition from the late 90s to early 00s. The earlier part of 2001 still felt like the late 90s. N64, PS1, and Dreamcast (I know it's technically a sixth generation console, but it was pretty much dead, when the other sixth generation consoles took over) were the dominant systems, teen pop was still popular, and Pokemania was still going strong with the release of the 3rd movie.

When it comes to sixth generaton of consoles, the only one introduced during the 2000-2001 school year was the PS2. And even then, it hadn't overtaken the PS1 yet. I'd say the transition from the fifth to sixth generation consoles were from the summer/fall of 2001, to the spring/early summer of 2002.

As for the 2008-2009 school year, while Facebook was growing in popularity, I remember Myspace was still going strong. Emo, was still going strong too, even if it wasn't as strong as in the previous two school years. I do agree that the electropop era seemed to be growing during the school year, but it seemed to be more significant during the 2009-2010 school year.

As for the 1992-1993 school year, I wasn't even born  ;D. But from what I've heard, it was still firmly early 90s. And looking at the years, it seems like the mid 90s trends were introduced sometime during the 1993-1994 school year. But people's opinions vary, I guess that's what it all boils down to.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: bchris02 on 01/20/16 at 12:34 pm

The next major, generational cultural shift will occur sometime between 2025 and 2030.  What that will look like, there is no telling.  Until then, today's culture will continue to slowly evolve.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: musicguy93 on 01/20/16 at 1:18 pm


The next major, generational cultural shift will occur sometime between 2025 and 2030.  What that will look like, there is no telling.  Until then, today's culture will continue to slowly evolve.


You keep saying that, and I honestly don't know what you mean. Do you honestly believe this:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NYftZ8sjvic/VQxqD14f8kI/AAAAAAAAALI/Hc4z--OCSxQ/s1600/c21085b8da1aa2c06ef52aaad22e64ea.jpg

or this

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/12/3b/73/123b7317901d0a49f5eb93da4be6574c.jpg


will still be popular in 2020? If you do, then I completely disagree with you. I can't imagine these styles remaining popular, even during the late 2010s, let alone the mid 2020s.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: mqg96 on 01/20/16 at 1:27 pm


You keep saying that, and I honestly don't know what you mean. Do you honestly believe this:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NYftZ8sjvic/VQxqD14f8kI/AAAAAAAAALI/Hc4z--OCSxQ/s1600/c21085b8da1aa2c06ef52aaad22e64ea.jpg

or this

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/12/3b/73/123b7317901d0a49f5eb93da4be6574c.jpg


will still be popular in 2020? If you do, then I completely disagree with you. I can't imagine these styles remaining popular, even during the late 2010s, let alone the mid 2020s.


Is it that hipster style again!?

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: Howard on 01/20/16 at 2:44 pm

I don't know what pop culture will be in the 2020's. ???

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: musicguy93 on 01/20/16 at 3:44 pm


Is it that hipster style again!?


Yeah, sorry  :-\\

But, my point still stands.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: musicguy93 on 01/20/16 at 3:45 pm


I don't know what pop culture will be in the 2020's. ???


Yeah, it's not even the late 2010s yet. There's no way to tell what the 2020s will be like.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: bchris02 on 01/20/16 at 6:39 pm


You keep saying that, and I honestly don't know what you mean. Do you honestly believe this:


Things will change, but there won't be a huge, generational shift in the late '10s that brings in an entirely new pop culture like we saw in 2009-10.  Those come only once per generation.  The difference between the mid 10s and late 10s will be more like the mid 90s to late 90s.  There will be differences but it won't be a completely different world.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: mqg96 on 01/20/16 at 7:43 pm


Things will change, but there won't be a huge, generational shift in the late '10s that brings in an entirely new pop culture like we saw in 2009-10.  Those come only once per generation.  The difference between the mid 10s and late 10s will be more like the mid 90s to late 90s.  There will be differences but it won't be a completely different world.


TBH, the second half of 2009, 2010, and 2011 all felt the same to me. 2012 felt different because it was the start of mid 2010's influences but overall it was still mostly an early 2010's year.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: 80sfan on 01/20/16 at 7:50 pm

Here are clips for a 2017 movie, Wonder Woman!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9Ur4De7yT8

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: mqg96 on 01/20/16 at 7:55 pm


Here are clips for a 2017 movie, Wonder Woman!

i9Ur4De7yT8


Edit.

BTW, this lets the haters know that the Marvel Cinematic Universe and DC comic surge aren't going away any time soon!  ;D :D

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: 80sfan on 01/20/16 at 7:56 pm


Edit.


Thank you.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: #Infinity on 01/20/16 at 8:09 pm

Here are some of my predictions for the perfect vision decade:

* The wealth inequality gap will finally start to contract as wealthy Boomers either go into retirement or pass away, while more and more people from Generation Z enter the workforce and voting population, not to mention millennials and X'ers continue moving up the ranks.
* Holographic technology will eventually start to become more popular, though still not perfected.
* Ideas of gender will start to grow more complex on a mainstream level.
* Streaming services will continue to grow more popular and mature in their capabilities.
* Location-sensitive video games will become really popular.
* 4K definition is standard.
* Primary education is largely conducted online.
* India will emerge as a primary contender in the global market, essentially the new China.
* More consorted attempts emerge to colonize Mars.
* The automobile market gradually transitions from human-driven to self-driven.
* Artificial intelligence becomes more refined, making everyday processes such as shopping and eating at fast food restaurants easier, though still most labor remains in the hands of humans.
* Residential developments will be smaller and more affordable than ever, since there is no longer a need for large houses to fit everything and newer generations of homebuyers face a more challenging real estate market.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: bchris02 on 01/20/16 at 10:39 pm


TBH, the second half of 2009, 2010, and 2011 all felt the same to me. 2012 felt different because it was the start of mid 2010's influences but overall it was still mostly an early 2010's year.


What about the difference between 2006 and 2010.  2010 was a lot farther from 2006 than 2014 was from 2010 culturally.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: mqg96 on 01/20/16 at 11:27 pm


* The automobile market gradually transitions from human-driven to self-driven.


Woah I completely forgot about this, and yes this has been worked on already as we speak. I think there are already cars with automatic ignitions where you just use your hand as a password or something.


* Artificial intelligence becomes more refined, making everyday processes such as shopping and eating at fast food restaurants easier, though still most labor remains in the hands of humans.


Like the people in the Wall-E movie? Just kidding not that far, but that would creep me out. I wouldn't want society to become too lazy.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: 2001 on 01/20/16 at 11:28 pm

In 2007 I gave a presentation in school about how PDA phones will take over the world, and how we would have hydrogen powered cars by 2012.

I won't even try predicting the future again.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: aja675 on 01/21/16 at 12:57 am

I suppose that whatever is underground right now will be mainstream next decade, 'cause that is how it usually is.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: WebTraveller on 01/21/16 at 8:51 am


Why? I mean, the current culture doesn't seem to have that much longevity. Plus a lot can (and probably will) change from 2017-2019.

I doubt that much will change, the 10's so so far have basically been a regurgitation of 00's, but with more tech, more PC, and similar, but worse music. I predict that the 20's will be similar, unless some new and interesting music genre is created, which I doubt. Think of the changes from the 70s to the 80s, and the 80s to the 90s. Each new decade brought its own distinct pop culture, but it seems like pop culture nowadays has slowed down a lot.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: 2001 on 01/21/16 at 9:54 am


I doubt that much will change, the 10's so so far have basically been a regurgitation of 00's, but with more tech, more PC, and similar, but worse music. I predict that the 20's will be similar, unless some new and interesting music genre is created, which I doubt. Think of the changes from the 70s to the 80s, and the 80s to the 90s. Each new decade brought its own distinct pop culture, but it seems like pop culture nowadays has slowed down a lot.


The 2010s don't feel similar to the 2000s at all, especially not the music. In the early 2000s, it was mostly pop-rock proliferating the radio. In the mid-2000s it was mostly hip hop and R&B. Nowadays its mostly dance pop, teen pop, electropop etc. It is completely different.

The decades that feel the most similar are the 90s and the 2000s. It seems rock and rap were the dominant genres in both decades.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: musicguy93 on 01/21/16 at 11:28 am


Things will change, but there won't be a huge, generational shift in the late '10s that brings in an entirely new pop culture like we saw in 2009-10.  Those come only once per generation.  The difference between the mid 10s and late 10s will be more like the mid 90s to late 90s.  There will be differences but it won't be a completely different world.


Can you provide some examples of what you think will die out, and what you think will remain popular during the late 2010s and early 2020s? While it is true that the mid 90s and late 90s had their similarities. However, overall, it seems like the mid 90s were closer to the early 90s, than they were the late 90s. For example, grunge fashion, which became popular in the early 90s (1991-1993), remained popular throughout the mid 90s. However, it began to decline around 1997 (some even say late 1996), and was pretty much dead by 1998. So even if the late 2010s are not a completely different world from the mid 2010s, it'll still seem more distant than the mid 2010s were to the late 2010s.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: WebTraveller on 01/21/16 at 11:51 am


The 2010s don't feel similar to the 2000s at all, especially not the music. In the early 2000s, it was mostly pop-rock proliferating the radio. In the mid-2000s it was mostly hip hop and R&B. Nowadays its mostly dance pop, teen pop, electropop etc. It is completely different.

The decades that feel the most similar are the 90s and the 2000s. It seems rock and rap were the dominant genres in both decades.


Yeah there are differences but what I meant is that on the 10's don't have their own very noticeably distinct pop culture like the 80's and 90's did. Take for example My Humps, which I remember watching on MTV about ten years ago. If you saw it for the first time now, its very unlikely that you would notice that it's ten years old.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: Toon on 01/21/16 at 11:57 am

A lot of the things from the early - mid '00s aren't even around in the '10s. The same thing could happen with the '20s where a lot of things introduced and were popular by the early-mid '10s wouldn't even be around by the time we reach the mid/core '20s. But hey I can't see the future. Although it's VERY hard to believe that things have been the same since the '00s. Years such as 2003-2005 seem very different from 2013-2015. Especially the mid '00s where it had a very distinct cultural feel that didn't seem to relate to either the '90s or '10s.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: musicguy93 on 01/21/16 at 12:30 pm


Yeah there are differences but what I meant is that on the 10's don't have their own very noticeably distinct pop culture like the 80's and 90's did. Take for example My Humps, which I remember watching on MTV about ten years ago. If you saw it for the first time now, its very unlikely that you would notice that it's ten years old.


Actually it does. Music in the 2010s has a lot more electronically based music. Also, genres like emo and post grunge have basically died out, in favor of indie/hipster pop. Trap rap is clearly distinguishable from crunk rap of the 2000s. There's also the changes in fashion. All you have to do is look at the pictures I posted. There's no way anyone would dress like that in the 2000s. As for My Humps, it actually sounds pretty old now. The style, beat, and production seems strictly 2000s.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: Arrowstone on 01/21/16 at 12:58 pm

We may have newspapers like these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxnv_QKxXf0

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: Toon on 01/21/16 at 2:38 pm


We may have newspapers like these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxnv_QKxXf0


That is some amazing stuff. To think that what's shown is just a prototype in progress is also pretty shocking. Wonder how the finished product would be like whenever it hits the market (if it ever does anyways). I'd be shock if we get phones or computers that are like that.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: Philip Eno on 01/21/16 at 2:44 pm


We may have newspapers like these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxnv_QKxXf0
How do you do a Sudoku on one of these?

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: Howard on 01/21/16 at 3:40 pm


Yeah, it's not even the late 2010s yet. There's no way to tell what the 2020s will be like.


We'll know in the next couple of years or so.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: Howard on 01/21/16 at 3:42 pm

* Streaming services will continue to grow more popular and mature in their capabilities.

That's definitely what will happen in 5 years or so.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: bchris02 on 01/21/16 at 7:00 pm


Can you provide some examples of what you think will die out, and what you think will remain popular during the late 2010s and early 2020s? While it is true that the mid 90s and late 90s had their similarities. However, overall, it seems like the mid 90s were closer to the early 90s, than they were the late 90s. For example, grunge fashion, which became popular in the early 90s (1991-1993), remained popular throughout the mid 90s. However, it began to decline around 1997 (some even say late 1996), and was pretty much dead by 1998. So even if the late 2010s are not a completely different world from the mid 2010s, it'll still seem more distant than the mid 2010s were to the late 2010s.


I don't see anything on the horizon yet to replace hipster fashion but its death is inevitable.  Out of everything that defines 2010s culture, that is what is most likely to die out and I predict it will be gone by 2020.

As for music, I see R&B coming back and trap rap slowly fading.  My guess is alternative rock, which has been very popular underground the past several years, is going to start becoming a bigger player in Top 40.  Lady Gaga and Katy Perry will both try to stage a comeback but will not be anywhere close to what they were in the early 2010s.  I can't predict what will happen with teen pop.  Adele and Taylor Swift will remain popular, though there music may not sound exactly like it does now.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: WebTraveller on 01/22/16 at 7:09 am


Actually it does. Music in the 2010s has a lot more electronically based music. Also, genres like emo and post grunge have basically died out, in favor of indie/hipster pop. Trap rap is clearly distinguishable from crunk rap of the 2000s. There's also the changes in fashion. All you have to do is look at the pictures I posted. There's no way anyone would dress like that in the 2000s. As for My Humps, it actually sounds pretty old now. The style, beat, and production seems strictly 2000s.


I agree with you, but compare the pop culture of the mid 80s to the mid 90's, or the mid 70s to the mid 80s, and you'll see that the differences between the mid 00's and the mid 10's are comparatively few. As for my humps, I meant that the vulgar, nonsense lyrics are similar to those you hear now.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: ArcticFox on 01/22/16 at 11:31 am


I doubt that much will change, the 10's so so far have basically been a regurgitation of 00's, but with more tech, more PC, and similar, but worse music. I predict that the 20's will be similar, unless some new and interesting music genre is created, which I doubt. Think of the changes from the 70s to the 80s, and the 80s to the 90s. Each new decade brought its own distinct pop culture, but it seems like pop culture nowadays has slowed down a lot.


I completely disagree. While the hip-hop may not be too different, the rest of 2010s culture is totally different. Music has become a lot more innovative, whereas the aughts didn't really innovate at all. Musically, it was all about playing it safe. The popular songs never made an effort to try something new. The idea of a throwback lost its novelty because every genre was at square one (like the most basic of basic), as well as the decade being completely flooded with crude lyrical themes. The indie stuff was much better.

Regarding television and films, there were a lot of short-lived shows and a lot of really banal movies. The Star Wars prequels and Chronicles of Narnia adaption was pretty noteworthy, but for the wrong reasons. While the film industry was in a much better state than the music industry was (Lord of the Rings series, Harry Potter, etc.), the mainstream stuff, a lot of the time, didn't live up to the quality of the art films. Lost in Translation is one of the best movies of the aughts. There were a lot of great shows still, such as Malcolm in the Middle, Lost, Veronica Mars, Criminal Minds, and Medium.

2010s music isn't perfect, but it's much better than the aughts. Like I said before, the rap may not be too different (for the most part -- even then there are rap songs that sound distinct from the aughts), but the dance, country, rock, and pop are completely different. And better, with the exception of bro-country which is thankfully dying. Another plus, R&B and adult contemporary have made big comebacks since 2011, both in popularity and quality. 2000's "R&B" songs like Milkshake, My Humps, Fergalicious, Torn, Goodies, Get Up, and Get It Shawty aren't even real R&B. That's hip-hop. In the 2010's, real R&B has come back, in both traditional and alternative forms. Look no further than any Adele song, Sia, some Rihanna songs, Ed Sheeran, Bruno Mars, The Weeknd, Sam Smith, and Justin Timberlake's newest music.

The slow jams of that time are also completely uninspiring and they don't draw you in at all. Unfaithful, So Sick, Shake It Off, Burn, and Excuse Me Miss don't have the same charm as Someone Like You, Turning Tables, When I Was Your Man, All of Me, Human, Here, Earned It, Stay, Hello, When We Were Young, Elastic Heart, I'm Not the Only One, and Diamonds. I could mention so many more, but I think I've shown you enough that 2010's ballads are far more passionate, original, rich, and soulful than the few ballads there were in the aughts.

As a matter of fact, I think the charts are in the best shape they have been during the past 14-15 years. Compared to the '90s, that's not much, but for the 21st century, that's a lot.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: musicguy93 on 01/22/16 at 3:38 pm

I don't see anything on the horizon yet to replace hipster fashion but its death is inevitable.  Out of everything that defines 2010s culture, that is what is most likely to die out and I predict it will be gone by 2020.

Fair enough. Personally, I was guessing 2018ish, but who knows? 2020 seems likely too.

As for music, I see R&B coming back and trap rap slowly fading.  My guess is alternative rock, which has been very popular underground the past several years, is going to start becoming a bigger player in Top 40. Lady Gaga and Katy Perry will both try to stage a comeback but will not be anywhere close to what they were in the early 2010s.  I can't predict what will happen with teen pop.  Adele and Taylor Swift will remain popular, though there music may not sound exactly like it does now.

Which underground bands, do you see getting big?

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: 2001 on 01/22/16 at 4:19 pm


Fair enough. Personally, I was guessing 2018ish, but who knows? 2020 seems likely too.

Which underground bands, do you see getting big?


Arkells is pretty popular in Canada. I don't know if I'd call them rock though, they're like... electro-indie with a guitar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_XGxs3yBm8

I love them because they're from my hometown, and they sometimes sing about it and shoot a lot of their MVs there.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/22/16 at 6:00 pm


The 2010s don't feel similar to the 2000s at all, especially not the music. In the early 2000s, it was mostly pop-rock proliferating the radio. In the mid-2000s it was mostly hip hop and R&B. Nowadays its mostly dance pop, teen pop, electropop etc. It is completely different.

The decades that feel the most similar are the 90s and the 2000s. It seems rock and rap were the dominant genres in both decades.


http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/glee/images/2/29/THIS.gif/revision/latest?cb=20121222111530

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: mqg96 on 01/22/16 at 6:02 pm


http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/glee/images/2/29/THIS.gif/revision/latest?cb=20121222111530


Is that Emma Watson?

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: bchris02 on 01/22/16 at 8:35 pm


Fair enough. Personally, I was guessing 2018ish, but who knows? 2020 seems likely too.


It will take time for it to die out.  Emo/scene peaked in 2006 but it was still relevant in 2008 and lingered into 2009 and 2010.  If we are currently at the peak of hipster culture, then it should die out completely in around 2019-20. 

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: musicguy93 on 01/22/16 at 8:49 pm


Arkells is pretty popular in Canada. I don't know if I'd call them rock though, they're like... electro-indie with a guitar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_XGxs3yBm8

I love them because they're from my hometown, and they sometimes sing about it and shoot a lot of their MVs there.


They already seem pretty popular. Maybe not top 40 popular persay, but I wouldn't call them "underground" either. I'm not sure if this style will be the popular sound of 2020s music, as it is already pretty popular now in the 2010s.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: musicguy93 on 01/22/16 at 8:50 pm


It will take time for it to die out.  Emo/scene peaked in 2006 but it was still relevant in 2008 and lingered into 2009 and 2010.  If we are currently at the peak of hipster culture, then it should die out completely in around 2019-20.


Good point.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: WebTraveller on 01/23/16 at 4:48 am


As a matter of fact, I think the charts are in the best shape they have been during the past 14-15 years.


Dude...

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: Howard on 01/23/16 at 8:11 am


Is that Emma Watson?


Yes it is.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: Philip Eno on 01/23/16 at 8:29 am


Yes it is.
Looks different from her HP days?

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: ArcticFox on 01/23/16 at 11:03 am

It's in the future. No one knows what is going to happen.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/23/16 at 12:37 pm


It's in the future. No one knows what is going to happen.


But we can predict it.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: Slim95 on 01/23/16 at 2:47 pm


History has told us that late 2016-mid 2017 will be the transition from mid 2010's to late 2010's pop culturally. 2015 will be looked back as the quintessential year of the mid 2010's.

History hasn't told us that. Stuff doesn't change on specific years. It changes naturally when society is ready.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: Slim95 on 01/23/16 at 2:52 pm

I think 2020's will be different than now. I mean 2020 is in 4 years and a lot can change in 4 years. Just imagine how much change will happen in the year 2029 compared to now. Nobody knows what the changes will be exactly.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/23/16 at 3:24 pm


History has told us that late 2016-mid 2017 will be the transition from mid 2010's to late 2010's pop culturally. 2015 will be looked back as the quintessential year of the mid 2010's.


People (including me) already see 2015 as the quintessential year of the mid 2010s. I mean, there was so many crap that didn't even felt related to the late '00s/early '10s.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: mqg96 on 01/23/16 at 3:27 pm


History hasn't told us that. Stuff doesn't change on specific years. It changes naturally when society is ready.


Late 2016-mid 2017 isn't a specific year. You say when society is ready, well, I already mentioned that the same school years presidential elections and inaugurations occur has historically been huge transitional years for other pop cultural things too. For example, late 1992-mid 1993 (transition into core 90's), late 2000-mid 2001 (transition into early 2000's culture), or late 2008-mid 2009 (transition into early 2010's culture). Weren't all those transitional years for the pop culture? That's why I predict late 2016-mid 2017 will be the transition into late 2010's culture.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: Howard on 01/23/16 at 3:47 pm


It's in the future. No one knows what is going to happen.


We'll just have to wait and see.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: Fearsword on 01/23/16 at 4:39 pm


The slow jams of that time are also completely uninspiring and they don't draw you in at all. Unfaithful, So Sick, Shake It Off, Burn, and Excuse Me Miss don't have the same charm as Someone Like You, Turning Tables, When I Was Your Man, All of Me, Human, Here, Earned It, Stay, Hello, When We Were Young, Elastic Heart, I'm Not the Only One, and Diamonds. I could mention so many more, but I think I've shown you enough that 2010's ballads are far more passionate, original, rich, and soulful than the few ballads there were in the aughts.


There were some R&B gems in the 00s such as "What goes around comes around", "Bleeding Love", "No One", "Down" etc. but I agree 2010s R&B is superior to 00s R&B as a whole.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: Fearsword on 01/23/16 at 4:48 pm

Well here are some predicted events for the 2020s

Population reaches 8 billion

2029-Computers reach human intelligence levels

I do think the first signs of 20s culture wise will creep in as early as 2017 when the new president of the US is inaugurated. P.S. I think this year's cultural shift will be particularly big as it's the first year since 1980 where a change in president coincides with an Australian Federal Election and the first year since 2004 where AUS and US have elections in the same year.

Subject: Re: Pop culture predictions for the 2020's?

Written By: musicguy93 on 01/23/16 at 5:09 pm


Late 2016-mid 2017 isn't a specific year. You say when society is ready, well, I already mentioned that the same school years presidential elections and inaugurations occur has historically been huge transitional years for other pop cultural things too. For example, late 1992-mid 1993 (transition into core 90's), late 2000-mid 2001 (transition into early 2000's culture), or late 2008-mid 2009 (transition into early 2010's culture). Weren't all those transitional years for the pop culture? That's why I predict late 2016-mid 2017 will be the transition into late 2010's culture.


Just because 1993 was a core 90s year, doesn't mean it wasn't an early 90s year. Core 90s and early 90s are NOT mutually exclusive. Late 2000-2001 had a bit more of an early 00s influence than the 1999-2000 school year, but it certainly wasn't a full on transition. late 2001-2002 was more of a transition, in my opinion, with 9/11, the official takeover of sixth generation consoles, and the decline of boy bands. Though the transition could be extended to late 2002 to early/mid 2003 for everything to be fully complete, but it's all open to debate. I don't want to get into too many minor details.

It's the same with the late 2008-2009 school year. None of these school years alone represent a full on transition. It's more like a hint of what's to come. It's generally the school year afterwards that's a larger transition, with the occasional extension during the following semester or two. I think I'm beginning to understand bchris02's perspective (I still don't completely agree with the 2025 estimation, but it's all open to debate at this point). While the 2016-2017 will certainly show signs of change, the transition may not be completely over by mid 2017. Heck transition may not be 100% complete until the second half 2018-2019 school year, at the latest (the 2017-2018 school year is probably the best marker, but it's still up in the air).

Granted nothing is for certain. This is just something I've just noticed, after analyzing the previous transitional periods.

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