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Subject: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: the2001 on 10/26/16 at 4:30 pm

Much like how 2006 was the end of the "Classic 2000's"  2016 feels like the end of the  " classic 2010s" It is hard
to describe but with all the events  " personal, political, entertainment"  it just feels like one cycle of living is over.

Does anyone else feel this way? (The feeling is similar to the fall of 2006)
This year feels like The final episode of a sitcom feeling, or the final movie
in a trilogy.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/26/16 at 4:49 pm

To be fair, I think the classic 2010s would end when either Trump or Clinton getting inaugurated in 2017. Just like how the classic 2000s ended with The Sopranos' series finale in 2007, in my opinion.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: the2001 on 10/26/16 at 4:51 pm


To be fair, I think the classic 2010s would end when either Trump or Clinton getting inaugurated in 2017. Just like how the classic 2000s ended with The Sopranos' series finale in 2007, in my opinion.


No way did the classic 2000s end in 2007 (it was on the way out way before lol)
But back onto the topic, Despite who gets elected next month, the mood is going to change really fast.
I mean it already is, I cant really put my finger on it  (maybe its because of personal reasons) it just feels
like the winds of change or something like that.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/26/16 at 4:58 pm


No way did the classic 2000s end in 2007 (it was on the way out way before lol)
But back onto the topic, Despite who gets elected next month, the mood is going to change really fast.
I mean it already is, I cant really put my finger on it  (maybe its because of personal reasons) it just feels
like the winds of change or something like that.


I meant that the classic 2000s ended around June of 2007, since The Sopranos was basically one of the most quintessential shows in the decade. Just like how Malcolm in the Middle, Ned's Declassified, Danny Phantom, Krypto the Superdog, and other classic 2000s shows defined the decade. But most of them ended around late 2006/early 2007.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: the2001 on 10/26/16 at 5:01 pm


I meant that the classic 2000s ended around June of 2007, since The Sopranos was basically one of the most quintessential shows in the decade. Just like how Malcolm in the Middle, Ned's Declassified, Danny Phantom, Krypto the Superdog, and other classic 2000s shows defined the decade. But most of them ended around late 2006/early 2007.


Good point, so you can say the classic 2010s are in the process of being phased out right now gradually

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: nintieskid999 on 10/26/16 at 5:05 pm

Classic 2010s is the era of catastrophe. It seems stronger than ever.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/26/16 at 5:08 pm


Good point, so you can say the classic 2010s are in the process of being phased out right now gradually


With the election coming, I suppose so. I would always define the classic 2010s as the Obama era.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: #Infinity on 10/26/16 at 5:08 pm

In the UK, maybe, since Brexit happened and Theresa May is now PM instead of David Cameron, but otherwise, it feels like we're hardly heading anywhere. So far, late 2016 is just more of the same shallow, rancid 2010s culture as ever, just probed by an American presidential election.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: exodus08 on 10/26/16 at 5:15 pm

The Classic 2000s ended on January 20, 2009 when Obama was  inaugurated. No more Bush and I'm pretty sure we won't have another republican president for a while. I do believe Clinton is going to be president (prove to me that I'm wrong) and the classic 2010s will end January 20, 2017.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 10/26/16 at 5:18 pm

Maybe 2017 is the last 'classic' 10's year.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Howard on 10/26/16 at 5:28 pm


Classic 2010s is the era of catastrophe. It seems stronger than ever.


too much catastrophe. :(

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/26/16 at 5:32 pm


Maybe 2017 is the last 'classic' 10's year.


2017 would be like the first modern 2010s year, since Obama would be out of office in January 2017. Meaning that either Trump or Clinton would be inaugurated as president for the next 4 or 8 years, if they win the 2020 election.


The Classic 2000s ended on January 20, 2009 when Obama was  inaugurated. No more Bush and I'm pretty sure we won't have another republican president for a while. I do believe Clinton is going to be president (prove to me that I'm wrong) and the classic 2010s will end January 20, 2017.


As much as I think so, it felt more modern around late 2007/early 2008. iPhones were already launched (despite not being mainstream yet), YouTube was already popular (I mean, everyone who knew what the Internet was at the time, saw or heard about it), and '43 Bush was getting enough backlash to have people get excited about the '08 election.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: mqg96 on 10/26/16 at 7:46 pm


The Classic 2000s ended on January 20, 2009 when Obama was  inaugurated. No more Bush and I'm pretty sure we won't have another republican president for a while. I do believe Clinton is going to be president (prove to me that I'm wrong) and the classic 2010s will end January 20, 2017.


The classic 2000's ended much earlier than that. The classic 2000's was already over by 2008, as well as the core 2000's being over by then too. I'd say 2007 at the latest can be classic 2000's, but I'm leaning more towards 2006 as the last real classic 2000's year.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 10/27/16 at 2:51 am


Much like how 2006 was the end of the "Classic 2000's"  2016 feels like the end of the  " classic 2010s" It is hard
to describe but with all the events  " personal, political, entertainment"  it just feels like one cycle of living is over.

Does anyone else feel this way? (The feeling is similar to the fall of 2006)
This year feels like The final episode of a sitcom feeling, or the final movie
in a trilogy.


I wouldn't even consider 2016 to be a "classic 2010s" year, to be honest. The vibe of 2016 feels very different from the vibe and culture of last year. This year, the culture appears to have stagnated and there seems to be a greater appreciation of previous decades. For instance, at one point, Pokemon Go was experiencing the same rave of popularity as Pokemon back in the Late 90s, Green Day, Blink-182 and Britney Spears all had hits within the Top-10 on the Top-40 mainstream charts and a new Tarzan movie was released in cinemas. It feels as though we have reached a turning point in our history, where our culture just isn't progressing at the same rate anymore. Personally, I would consider 2013-2015 to be the "core 2010s" years.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/27/16 at 5:59 am


I wouldn't even consider 2016 to be a "classic 2010s" year, to be honest. The vibe of 2016 feels very different from the vibe and culture of last year. This year, the culture appears to have stagnated and there seems to be a greater appreciation of previous decades. For instance, at one point, Pokemon Go was experiencing the same rave of popularity as Pokemon back in the Late 90s, Green Day, Blink-182 and Britney Spears all had hits within the Top-10 on the Top-40 mainstream charts and a new Tarzan movie was released in cinemas. It feels as though we have reached a turning point in our history, where our culture just isn't progressing at the same rate anymore. Personally, I would consider 2013-2015 to be the "core 2010s" years.


Weren't there people having a great appreciation with previous decades in the core 2010s? Not that it includes us, but the people who usually put in all of that 90s revival stuff since 2014/15. It seems to be like we've been in a revival age for a while now.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 10/27/16 at 5:59 am

I can't wait until this US election is over! It's so draining.  8-P  8-P

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: the2001 on 10/27/16 at 7:56 am


I wouldn't even consider 2016 to be a "classic 2010s" year, to be honest. The vibe of 2016 feels very different from the vibe and culture of last year. This year, the culture appears to have stagnated and there seems to be a greater appreciation of previous decades. For instance, at one point, Pokemon Go was experiencing the same rave of popularity as Pokemon back in the Late 90s, Green Day, Blink-182 and Britney Spears all had hits within the Top-10 on the Top-40 mainstream charts and a new Tarzan movie was released in cinemas. It feels as though we have reached a turning point in our history, where our culture just isn't progressing at the same rate anymore. Personally, I would consider 2013-2015 to be the "core 2010s" years.


pokemon go is dead pretty much,  Spears album flopped,  so many things came in went this year

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: TheEarly90sFan on 10/27/16 at 9:24 am


I wouldn't even consider 2016 to be a "classic 2010s" year, to be honest. The vibe of 2016 feels very different from the vibe and culture of last year. This year, the culture appears to have stagnated and there seems to be a greater appreciation of previous decades. For instance, at one point, Pokemon Go was experiencing the same rave of popularity as Pokemon back in the Late 90s, Green Day, Blink-182 and Britney Spears all had hits within the Top-10 on the Top-40 mainstream charts and a new Tarzan movie was released in cinemas. It feels as though we have reached a turning point in our history, where our culture just isn't progressing at the same rate anymore. Personally, I would consider 2013-2015 to be the "core 2010s" years.


Pokèmania hit at the turn of this century, not the late '90s.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/27/16 at 10:56 am


Pokèmania hit at the turn of this century, not the late '90s.


Well, it was mostly popular around 1999-2001, when it reached mainstream attention.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: TheEarly90sFan on 10/27/16 at 12:55 pm


Well, it was mostly popular around 1999-2001, when it reached mainstream attention.


Those were early 2000s years.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/27/16 at 1:43 pm


Those were early 2000s years.


But people could still find them as 90s years culturally.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: TheEarly90sFan on 10/27/16 at 1:54 pm


But people could still find them as 90s years culturally.


Well, those people obviously don't know what the '90s are.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Zelek3 on 10/27/16 at 1:55 pm


Well, those people obviously don't know what the '90s are.

The people who say 99-2001 are the core 90s tend to be filthy post-87 Gen Ys! ;D

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/27/16 at 2:40 pm


Well, those people obviously don't know what the '90s are.



The people who say 99-2001 are the core 90s tend to be filthy post-87 Gen Ys! ;D


I don't think they find as the core 90s. It's more like the late 90s to them, since those people don't remember the 90s that well.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Howard on 10/27/16 at 2:57 pm


I can't wait until this US election is over! It's so draining.  8-P  8-P


same here.  ::)

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 10/27/16 at 3:33 pm


Pokèmania hit at the turn of this century, not the late '90s.


The Pokemon TV series started in 1997 and Pokemania did start in the Late 90s.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: TheEarly90sFan on 10/27/16 at 4:02 pm


The Pokemon TV series started in 1997 and Pokemania did start in the Late 90s.


Children were starting to catch on to Pokémon in the spring of 1998, but that is only one year of the late '90s. Pokémania hit in '99 (the first year of the 2000s).

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 10/27/16 at 4:33 pm


same here.  ::)


Are you still voting for Trump?

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/27/16 at 5:25 pm


The Pokemon TV series started in 1997 and Pokemania did start in the Late 90s.


But the anime didn't hit until 1998 in North America. It was a Japan-only thing during 1996/1997.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: SpyroKev on 10/27/16 at 6:57 pm


I can't wait until this US election is over! It's so draining.  8-P  8-P


You must be following at a major rate. I kind of don't want it to ever end. I see now how scary presidents can be.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/27/16 at 7:01 pm


You must be following at a major rate. I kind of don't want it to ever end. I see now how scary presidents can be.


If we could survive 57 presidential elections, then I'm pretty sure we could survive another one. But with either Trump or Clinton, it's disastrous on either one. This wouldn't happen if Bernie Sanders was the Democratic candidate, instead of Hillary.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Zelek3 on 10/27/16 at 7:53 pm


I meant that the classic 2000s ended around June of 2007, since The Sopranos was basically one of the most quintessential shows in the decade. Just like how Malcolm in the Middle, Ned's Declassified, Danny Phantom, Krypto the Superdog, and other classic 2000s shows defined the decade. But most of them ended around late 2006/early 2007.

An obscure preschool show that only like 100 people watched "defines a decade"? How? ???

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/27/16 at 8:06 pm


An obscure preschool show that only like 100 people watched "defines a decade"? How? ???


To be frank, it was more of a mid 2000s show. I was just giving examples on what shows were part of the classic 2000s.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 10/27/16 at 11:04 pm


Children were starting to catch on to Pokémon in the spring of 1998, but that is only one year of the late '90s. Pokémania hit in '99 (the first year of the 2000s).


Personally, I wouldn't view 1999 as being a "2000's year", culturally speaking. In many ways, 1997-2002 was it's own era; it didn't fit in with core 90s or core 2000's culture.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Mat1991 on 10/27/16 at 11:23 pm


If we could survive 57 presidential elections, then I'm pretty sure we could survive another one. But with either Trump or Clinton, it's disastrous on either one. This wouldn't happen if Bernie Sanders was the Democratic candidate, instead of Hillary.


I think we'll be fine.

People really need to chill this year. 

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/28/16 at 6:31 am


I think we'll be fine.

People really need to chill this year.


Tell that to everyone on social media.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 10/28/16 at 7:08 am

Nothing I can do about the future. Just going to let it go, whine once in a while, and then just go with the universal flow. 8)

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/28/16 at 7:23 am


Personally, I wouldn't view 1999 as being a "2000's year", culturally speaking. In many ways, 1997-2002 was it's own era; it didn't fit in with core 90s or core 2000's culture.


It kinda felt like the 90s, but not in an obvious way.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Howard on 10/28/16 at 7:26 am


Are you still voting for Trump?


I really don't know. ???

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 10/28/16 at 11:17 am


I meant that the classic 2000s ended around June of 2007, since The Sopranos was basically one of the most quintessential shows in the decade. Just like how Malcolm in the Middle, Ned's Declassified, Danny Phantom, Krypto the Superdog, and other classic 2000s shows defined the decade. But most of them ended around late 2006/early 2007.

Nah bro summer of 2006 was the end of the classic 2000s. Late 2006-summer of 2008 is the modern 00s.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 10/28/16 at 11:21 am


Personally, I wouldn't view 1999 as being a "2000's year", culturally speaking. In many ways, 1997-2002 was it's own era; it didn't fit in with core 90s or core 2000's culture.

Disagree, 1997 and most of 98 was nothing like 2002. 1997 and most of 98 was still the 90s culture and 2002 was 00s culture. The years Late 1998-2001 aka the millennium era was it's own era.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/28/16 at 1:33 pm


Nah bro summer of 2006 was the end of the classic 2000s. Late 2006-summer of 2008 is the modern 00s.


The summer of 2006 was like the start of the transition between the classic and modern 2000s.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 10/28/16 at 4:25 pm


Much like how 2006 was the end of the "Classic 2000's"  2016 feels like the end of the  " classic 2010s" It is hard
to describe but with all the events  " personal, political, entertainment"  it just feels like one cycle of living is over.

Does anyone else feel this way? (The feeling is similar to the fall of 2006)
This year feels like The final episode of a sitcom feeling, or the final movie
in a trilogy.

I think classic 2000s ended in 2008. But I can see and accept many viewpoints on this. I guess it depends on what you define as "classic". Can someone explain to me the difference between classic, core, and mid?  ???

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 10/28/16 at 4:27 pm


Disagree, 1997 and most of 98 was nothing like 2002. 1997 and most of 98 was still the 90s culture and 2002 was 00s culture. The years Late 1998-2001 aka the millennium era was it's own era.

Totally agree. The 1990s ended in 1998. 1999 - 2001 was its own era and much more 2000s than 1990s.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: BornIn86 on 10/28/16 at 4:36 pm


Personally, I wouldn't view 1999 as being a "2000's year", culturally speaking. In many ways, 1997-2002 was it's own era; it didn't fit in with core 90s or core 2000's culture.


AS someone who remembers the 90s more than the 2000s, 1999 was culturally 2000s.To this day I remember that feeling I had during the summer of 99. I feel like the culture had changed significantly from my late 80s - mid to late 90s childhood.

So for me, whether or not 97 and 98 kicked off 2000 is debatable. Whether 99 was culturally 2000s isn't'.

To be honest, I feel like it's ridiculously too early to cement ANYTHING on 2010s culture.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 10/28/16 at 4:36 pm

I don't think 2016 is the end of an era because everything feels the same so far. There really is no difference this year compared to last year. I feel like the end of this era will start in 2017.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/28/16 at 4:48 pm


I think classic 2000s ended in 2008. But I can see and accept many viewpoints on this. I guess it depends on what you define as "classic". Can someone explain to me the difference between classic, core, and mid?  ???


The mid portion was like the 4th to 7th year of the decade (XXX3-XXX6) to most people, the core was like the peak of the decade, and classic is a time before a decade had stuff that foreshadowed the next decade.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 10/28/16 at 4:55 pm


The mid portion was like the 4th to 7th year of the decade (XXX3-XXX6) to most people, the core was like the peak of the decade, and classic is a time before a decade had stuff that foreshadowed the next decade.

Well in that case I do think 2007 was the last full classic 00s year. Things started to change mid to late 2008. But the years before 2006 were even more classic 00s and felt more like the 00s to me, especially the early 2000s.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/28/16 at 5:11 pm


Well in that case I do think 2007 was the last full classic 00s year. Things started to change mid to late 2008. But the years before 2006 were even more classic 00s and felt more like the 00s to me, especially the early 2000s.


Mid 2006-2008 were like the transition from the classic to modern 2000s. Although, they all felt like 2007 before June of 2008 to me.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 10/28/16 at 5:14 pm


Mid 2006-2008 were like the transition from the classic to modern 2000s. Although, they all felt like 2007 before June of 2008 to me.

Well I wouldn't say late 2008 and 2009 are modern 00s, I would say those are already cultural 2010s years.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/28/16 at 5:15 pm


Well I wouldn't say late 2008 and 2009 are modern 00s, I would say those are already cultural 2010s years.


They're more like the early 2010s, in some similar fashions. Depends on who you talk to.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 10/28/16 at 5:17 pm


They're more like the early 2010s, in some similar fashions. Depends on who you talk to.

Yeah early 2010s, which in my opinion defines the 2010s the most so far.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: batfan2005 on 10/29/16 at 9:43 am


I don't think 2016 is the end of an era because everything feels the same so far. There really is no difference this year compared to last year. I feel like the end of this era will start in 2017.


I agree. I think the vibe will change when a new president is inaugurated. That is why I felt that 2009 was the start of a new era, more than 2008.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/29/16 at 9:47 am


I agree. I think the vibe will change when a new president is inaugurated. That is why I felt that 2009 was the start of a new era, more than 2008.


Same with me. Whenever I get nostalgic for the 2000s, 2009 doesn't really come to mind often. It might have to deal with Obama's popularity during his presidency.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 10/29/16 at 3:22 pm


I think classic 2000s ended in 2008. But I can see and accept many viewpoints on this.

Nope core 00s need in 2008. 2006 was the curtain call to the classic years.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 10/29/16 at 3:23 pm


Well I wouldn't say late 2008 and 2009 are modern 00s, I would say those are already cultural 2010s years.

Agreed! :)  Modern 00s, is fall 2006- until mid 2008. Basically the regular late 00s.
Late 2008 and 2009 were bscially the pre 2010s. ;D

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Zelek3 on 10/29/16 at 3:45 pm


Agreed! :)  Modern 00s, is fall 2006- until mid 2008. Basically the regular late 00s.
Late 2008 and 2009 were bscially the pre 2010s. ;D

Eric, I have a question.

When you were a kid, could you comprehend ideas like "early 2000s", "mid 2000s", late 2000s, pop culture shifts, etc., or not really? Around late 2006, did you notice how much of the stuff from you early childhood was coming to an end?

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 10/29/16 at 3:53 pm


I guess it depends on what you define as "classic". Can someone explain to me the difference between classic, core, and mid?  ???

Well.... it's complicated. ;D

Core means: when people think of the decade, they think of those years and that time. It is the heart of the decade.


Mid means: it is the brief,middle years part of that decade.


Classic means: It is usually the time people are very nostalgic for and it's as it can get.


For example classic 90s is 1993-1996, and core 90s is 1993-1998. Classic 00s is 2003-2006, mid 00s IMO is summer 2004-mid 2006, and core 00s is 2004-2008.


Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 10/29/16 at 4:03 pm


Eric, I have a question.

When you were a kid, could you comprehend ideas like "early 2000s", "mid 2000s", late 2000s, pop culture shifts, etc., or not really? Around late 2006, did you notice how much of the stuff from you early childhood was coming to an end?

I didn't really comprehend, early, mid, late, core or classic. It wasn't till I was a teen.

I noticed things as early as Late 2005 that things were coming to end. Monday Night Football leaving ABC, and new mediocre kids showings premiering on CN, Kids WB, and Nick. HD DVDs were becoming a thing.
Then summer of 2006, that felt like the end of an era; culturally and personal life wise.(classic 00s shows ending, sports shows changing, news channels changing, and I joined a kids baseball league) Fall of 2006 was the like start of something new.(7th gen game consoles, a new era of kid culture started, new shows such as DEXTER, 30 Rock, Heroes, Ugly Betty etc. Blu Rays, Monday Night Football being on ESPN.)

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: nintieskid999 on 10/29/16 at 6:34 pm


Agreed! :)  Modern 00s, is fall 2006- until mid 2008. Basically the regular late 00s.
Late 2008 and 2009 were bscially the pre 2010s. ;D


I agree. Things became very different after the 08 financial collapse and after the election. The biggest changes happened between late September and early November of 08.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 10/29/16 at 6:36 pm


I agree. Things became very different after the 08 financial collapse and after the election. The biggest changes happened between late September and early November of 08.

Yeah I started noticing hints of changes earlier in the year but the main big change occured when the financial crisis happened in late 2008 and the election. At this time, Lady Gaga also came out with her hit. It felt like we were going into a different time and a new decade already.

I'm hoping now that there will be a new American president that there will be a change and a new era in 2017. But that's not always the case.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/29/16 at 6:36 pm


I agree. Things became very different after the 08 financial collapse and after the election. The biggest changes happened between late September and early November of 08.


Well, late 2008 was just the turning point for the modern era. Although, it still felt like the late 2000s at the time.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 10/29/16 at 6:38 pm


Well, late 2008 was just the turning point for the modern era. Although, it still felt like the late 2000s at the time.

I define the late 2000s more with 2008 and 2009 because 2007 still had mid 00s influences. But the late 00s and early 10s were very similar to me.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/29/16 at 6:45 pm


I define the late 2000s more with 2008 and 2009 because 2007 still had mid 00s influences. But the late 00s and early 10s were very similar to me.


Late 2007-2009 feels more like the late 2000s, in my honest opinion. The first 6-7 months of 2007 felt like late 2006, despite being the turning point for the late 2000s. Once the 2007-08 school year (at least in the U.S.) started, the late 2000s was already in full swing.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: nintieskid999 on 10/29/16 at 7:16 pm


Well, late 2008 was just the turning point for the modern era. Although, it still felt like the late 2000s at the time.


Politicially and economically, late 08 and 09 was 2010s.
Pop culturally it was 00s until 2010.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/29/16 at 7:20 pm


Politicially and economically, late 08 and 09 was 2010s.
Pop culturally it was 00s until 2010.


Pop culturally, it still had some 2000s influences until 2011.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 10/29/16 at 7:30 pm

Pop culturally the 2010s started in 2008. But it's not like all the 00s completely disappeared. There were still some 00s leftovers probably until 2011. But they were small leftovers as we were already in the 2010s culture by then. A similar thing happened with the 00s as the 00s culture started around 1999.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 10/29/16 at 7:36 pm


I define the late 2000s more with 2008 and 2009 because 2007 still had mid 00s influences. But the late 00s and early 10s were very similar to me.

Late 2006 and 2007 were still late 00s tho... 2007 was probably the quintessential late 00s year imo.
Once again I think you're confusing core with mid again...

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 10/29/16 at 7:37 pm


Late 2006 and 2007 were still late 00s tho. 2007 was probably the quintessential late 00s year imo.

They were numerically, just not culturally that much for me. 2006 and 2007 felt like pretty similar years.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 10/29/16 at 7:39 pm


They were numerically, just not culturally that much for me. 2006 and 2007 felt like pretty similar years.

Late 2006 was similar to 2007.  That's why Late 2006-mid 2008 go together; the regular late 00s. Because the first half of 2006 was still mid.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 10/29/16 at 7:41 pm


because 2007 still had mid 00s influences. B

2006-2007 season did. But 2007-08 season was as late 00s as you could possibly get.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 10/29/16 at 7:45 pm


2006-2007 season did. But 2007-08 season was as late 00s as you could possibly get.

What cultural differences did you notice 2007-2008? I just don't remember a whole lot changing except for a couple things like the unveiling of the first IPhone and the growth of some social media sites.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 10/29/16 at 7:58 pm


What cultural differences did you notice 2007-2008? I just don't remember a whole lot changing except for a couple things like the unveiling of the first IPhone and the growth of some social media sites.

2007-08 was the same as 2006-07 overall. But difference was, there weren't anymore sings of mid influences anymore. For example; Shows like Gilmore Girls, Sopranos, 7th Heaven, Reba were over. 7th gen game consoles were THE standard. Halo 3 and COD 4 exploding in the industry. Soulja Boy. 50 cent vs Kanye. Ringtone rap was in it's peak. Blu ray became popular. Late 2000s series such as The Office, 30 Rock, Greys Anatomy, Bones, Ugly Betty, Heroes, were in their primes.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Zelek3 on 10/29/16 at 8:43 pm

One difference between 06-07 and 07-08 is that Cartoon Network, while it had been weakening fast throughout the 06-07 season, arguably died its "official" death around mid 2007 when Stuart Snyder took over, they cancelled Fridays, replaced it with Fried Dynamite, got rid of all the City bumpers, and introduced the show Out of Jimmy's Head.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 10/29/16 at 8:51 pm


One difference between 06-07 and 07-08 is that Cartoon Network, while it had been weakening fast throughout the 06-07 season, arguably died its "official" death around mid 2007 when Stuart Snyder took over, they cancelled Fridays, replaced it with Fried Dynamite, got rid of all the City bumpers, and introduced the show Out of Jimmy's Head.

Yea. But not too important to pop culture tho.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/29/16 at 9:06 pm


2007-08 was the same as 2006-07 overall. But difference was, there weren't anymore sings of mid influences anymore. For example; Shows like Gilmore Girls, Sopranos, 7th Heaven, Reba were over. 7th gen game consoles were THE standard. Halo 3 and COD 4 exploding in the industry. Soulja Boy. 50 cent vs Kanye. Ringtone rap was in it's peak. Blu ray became popular. Late 2000s series such as The Office, 30 Rock, Greys Anatomy, Bones, Ugly Betty, Heroes, were in their primes.


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One difference between 06-07 and 07-08 is that Cartoon Network, while it had been weakening fast throughout the 06-07 season, arguably died its "official" death around mid 2007 when Stuart Snyder took over, they cancelled Fridays, replaced it with Fried Dynamite, got rid of all the City bumpers, and introduced the show Out of Jimmy's Head.


Yeah. That was one of the many differences that I knew from 2007. Back when they had the Yes era, they still had all the classic CN shows that aired around the early-mid 2000s (e.g. Billy and Mandy, Ed Edd n Eddy, etc.). But after Fried Dynamite was around (maybe November of 2007), it was starting to get more centered towards Chowder, and then Flapjack. Then the Har Har Tharsdays block came, and it only had about 5-6 shows throughout its runtime.

Come to think of it, I only remember liking Chowder, Flapjack, and Total Drama Island throughout the very late 2000s. The other shows that were around like Class of 3000 and Squirrel Boy were harshly cancelled around late 2007/early 2008. Around that time, I somehow had a fascination towards late 80s/early 90s stuff at the time, and it wowed me. It was like going through a different world, where everyone watched something with calming music and VHS quality video. Although, I still watched Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon at the time, but wasn't that enjoyful about it compared to 2004-mid 2007.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 10/29/16 at 9:31 pm


2007-08 was the same as 2006-07 overall. But difference was, there weren't anymore sings of mid influences anymore. For example; Shows like Gilmore Girls, Sopranos, 7th Heaven, Reba were over. 7th gen game consoles were THE standard. Halo 3 and COD 4 exploding in the industry. Soulja Boy. 50 cent vs Kanye. Ringtone rap was in it's peak. Blu ray became popular. Late 2000s series such as The Office, 30 Rock, Greys Anatomy, Bones, Ugly Betty, Heroes, were in their primes.

Isn't ringtone rap a mid 00s fad? Kanye West was popular in the mid 00s too. Majority of people didn't use Blu Ray right when it came out and they stuck to DVDs. And The Office came out in 2005. All of these come from the mid 00s.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 10/29/16 at 9:55 pm

It's like the end of the dinosaur era.

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Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: batfan2005 on 10/30/16 at 9:02 am


Isn't ringtone rap a mid 00s fad? Kanye West was popular in the mid 00s too. Majority of people didn't use Blu Ray right when it came out and they stuck to DVDs. And The Office came out in 2005. All of these come from the mid 00s.


As I've mentioned before, I always saw late 2005 to about mid 2008 as one distinct era. This era is defined as the MySpace, emo, dance pop, ringtone rap, prime of Chris Brown and Rihanna, 7th gen consoles, TV shows that were mentioned particularly The Office, and GWB's 2ND term and declining popularity, and first warning signs of the housing crisis/recession.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Redhairkid on 10/30/16 at 9:06 am

It's just a year to me as today's popular culture goes completely over my head due to my age!

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/30/16 at 9:13 am


It's just a year to me as today's popular culture goes completely over my head due to my age!


I'm 16 (gonna turn 17 in December) and I feel the same, despite being young.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Looney Toon on 10/30/16 at 12:33 pm

End of an era? I'm gonna hold off from thinking that until I see what changes come as we reach the late 2010s and 2020s. 2016 is a pretty boring year now that I think about it. A lot of the exciting things I may see won't be around until either the late 2010s, '20s, or '30s.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 10/30/16 at 3:21 pm


Isn't ringtone rap a mid 00s fad? Kanye West was popular in the mid 00s too. Majority of people didn't use Blu Ray right when it came out and they stuck to DVDs. And The Office came out in 2005. All of these come from the mid 00s.

But ALL those things reached their primes in the late 00s tho....
Ringtone rap is mostly late 00s. Mid 00s rap was mostly crank and snap rap.


I'm midly curious what's late 00s culture to you?! ???

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 10/30/16 at 3:23 pm


As I've mentioned before, I always saw late 2005 to about mid 2008 as one distinct era. This era is defined as the MySpace, emo, dance pop, ringtone rap, prime of Chris Brown and Rihanna, 7th gen consoles, TV shows that were mentioned particularly The Office, and GWB's 2ND term and declining popularity, and first warning signs of the housing crisis/recession.

Late 2006...
2005 the first half was just like the second half. That was the quenitssental mid 00s year.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 10/30/16 at 4:12 pm


But ALL those things reached their primes in the late 00s tho....
Ringtone rap is mostly late 00s. Mid 00s rap was mostly crank and snap rap.


I'm midly curious what's late 00s culture to you?! ???

Late 00s culture to me is electro pop, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Obama, Blackberry phones, the recession, Jonas Brothers/other Disney icons at the time, etc. Late 2000s and early 2010s have a similar pop culture to me. These are also all things that lead up to the 2010s. 2007 is culturally more classic and mid 00s than late to me.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 10/30/16 at 4:23 pm


Late 00s culture to me is electro pop, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Obama, Blackberry phones, the recession, Jonas Brothers/other Disney icons at the time, etc. Late 2000s and early 2010s have a similar pop culture to me. These are also all things that lead up to the 2010s. 2007 is culturally more classic and mid 00s than late to me.

Sigh... Those things are early 2010s... Late 2008 and 2009 was basically the pre 10s. I don't view that time as THE late 00s. That was Fall 2006-summer 2008.
Electro pop, Lady Gaga, Obama, and Katy Perry aren't regular late 00s things.  ONCE AGAIN, you're confusing core 00s with mid... ;D ;D ;D

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 10/30/16 at 4:30 pm


Sigh... Those things are early 2010s... Late 2008 and 2009 was basically the pre 10s. I don't view that time as THE late 00s. That was Fall 2006-summer 2008.
Electro pop, Lady Gaga, Obama, and Katy Perry aren't regular late 00s things.  ONCE AGAIN, you're confusing core 00s with mid... ;D ;D ;D

They are to me. When I think of the late 00s I think of these things. And like I said, the early 10s and late 00s feel very similar to me culturally. The sound of music started changing in 2008. Rihanna changed her style of music and so many artists did as well. 2008 is when you started hearing the electronic autotune pop influences coming. 2007 and early 2008 still had mid 00s influences to me. For example, these two songs came out in 2007 and they have that classic vibe of the mid 00s:

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2EwViQxSJJQ

Then fast forward to 2008, and you get this:


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Big difference in my opinion.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 10/30/16 at 4:33 pm


They are to me. When I think of the late 00s I think of these things. And like I said, the early 10s and late 00s feel very similar to me culturally. The sound of music started changing in 2008. Rihanna changed her style of music and so many artists did as well. 2008 is when you started hearing the electronic autotune pop influences coming. 2007 and early 2008 still had mid 00s influences to me. For example, these two songs came out in 2007 and they have that classic vibe of the mid 00s:

KMOOr7GEkj8

2EwViQxSJJQ

Then fast forward to 2008, and you get this:


E1mU6h4Xdxc
Big difference in my opinion.

You're also focusing WAY too much on music....

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 10/30/16 at 4:37 pm


2007 and early 2008 still had mid 00s influences to me.

Soo; Hannah Montana, Soulja Boy, Backlash against George W, I Carly,Blu rays, DEXTER, 30 Rock, Heroes, Call of Duty 4, Halo 3, Xbox 360, and Wii are mid 00s to you?
Give me a friggin break!!! ;D ;D ;D

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Zelek3 on 10/30/16 at 4:42 pm


Soo; Hannah Montana, Soulja Boy, Backlash against George W, I Carly,Blu rays, DEXTER, 30 Rock, Heroes, Call of Duty 4, Halo 3, Xbox 360, and Wii are mid 00s to you?
Give me a friggin break!!! ;D ;D ;D

Xbox 360, maybe.

Also I remember people were already bashing Bush as early as 2004. My nana even sent me this video during the 2004 election.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBExBucLRgU (the date says it's from 2006, but that was when it was uploaded on YouTube. I remember it being on another site back in 2004)

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 10/30/16 at 4:46 pm


Xbox 360, maybe.

Also I remember people were already bashing Bush as early as 2004. My nana even sent me this video during the 2004 election.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBExBucLRgU (the date says it's from 2006, but that was when it was uploaded on YouTube. I remember it being on another site back in 2004)

Mid 2000s was still the PS2 era.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 10/30/16 at 4:58 pm


Mid 2000s was still the PS2 era.

I'll agree to disagree. It's just how I felt. The change felt bigger in 2008 and felt like another era. I'm not saying there weren't any changes in previous years, but they just felt less obvious to me.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 10/30/16 at 5:02 pm


I'll agree to disagree. It's just how I felt. The change felt bigger in 2008 and felt like another era. I'm not saying there weren't any changes in previous years, but they just felt less obvious to me.

Aww I see.  :) :o
That's kinda similar to how I feel about 2001. While there was significant change that year, the years that brought the most change in the 00s were 2004, second half of 2006, and second half of 2008 imo.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Zelek3 on 10/30/16 at 5:04 pm


Mid 2000s was still the PS2 era.

But you can't deny Bush was already getting beaten down by 2004. ;D

And the poor response to Hurricane Katrina in 2005 further solidified his bad reputation.

I'd say the Bush backlash is not just a late 2000s thing, but a mid 00s thing as well.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 10/30/16 at 5:09 pm


But you can't deny Bush was already getting beaten down by 2004. ;D

And the poor response to Hurricane Katrina in 2005 further solidified his bad reputation.

I'd say the Bush backlash is not just a late 2000s thing, but a mid 00s thing as well.

Yea that's true Bush's backlash had it's roots in the mid 00s.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: BornIn86 on 10/30/16 at 5:24 pm


But you can't deny Bush was already getting beaten down by 2004. ;D

And the poor response to Hurricane Katrina in 2005 further solidified his bad reputation.

I'd say the Bush backlash is not just a late 2000s thing, but a mid 00s thing as well.


Definitely. The Bush administration really blew it with the Iraq War. When 9/11 happened, even many on the far left rightly or wrongly got behind the Afghanistan War. Suddenly Bush started on with The Axis of Evil and weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. It all seem iffy. It didn't help that Fox News and the Fox News demo kept claiming if you disagreed with invading Iraq, you hate America.

It really sucked. 9/11 brought such camaraderie among Americans I have not seen before or after that small period. If you can't tell, I'm still kinda miffed at Bush for destroying that with the Iraq War.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 10/30/16 at 5:33 pm


Definitely. The Bush administration really blew it with the Iraq War. When 9/11 happened, even many on the far left rightly or wrongly got behind the Afghanistan War. Suddenly Bush started on with The Axis of Evil and weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. It all seem iffy. It didn't help that Fox News and the Fox News demo kept claiming if you disagreed with invading Iraq, you hate America. It really sucked. 9/11 brought such camaraderie among Americans I have not seen before or after that small period. If you can't tell, I'm still kinda miffed at Bush for destroying that with the Iraq War.


Good thing my parents were watching CNN, since they're more left wing.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Howard on 10/31/16 at 3:04 pm


Mid 2000s was still the PS2 era.


until the PS3 came out in late 2000's.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 10/31/16 at 5:56 pm


You're also focusing WAY too much on music....


Count me in! I'm obssessed with music.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: batfan2005 on 11/04/16 at 6:44 pm


Late 2006...
2005 the first half was just like the second half. That was the quenitssental mid 00s year.


The second half of 2005 was nothing like the first half, and it was completely disconnected from 2004 and before. Late 2006 wasn't much different from the early part, and the entire year was pretty much an extension of late 2005.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 11/04/16 at 7:34 pm


The second half of 2005 was nothing like the first half, and it was completely disconnected from 2004 and before. Late 2006 wasn't much different from the early part, and the entire year was pretty much an extension of late 2005.


Late 2004 and 2005 seemed similar. I mean, they already had the same shows as they had during their seasons.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/04/16 at 7:38 pm

I don't know how 2005 was different in the second half. It seemed culturally the same. But for my personal life it was very different because I moved cities in November 2005.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 11/04/16 at 7:41 pm


I don't know how 2005 was different in the second half. It seemed culturally the same. But for my personal life it was very different because I moved cities in November 2005.


I really don't know why people say that. I remember late 2004 and 2005 consistently, and I find it to be the same until late 2006.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 11/08/16 at 4:45 pm


I really don't know why people say that. I remember late 2004 and 2005 consistently, and I find it to be the same until late 2006.

I don't know how 2005 was different in the second half. It seemed culturally the same. But for my personal life it was very different because I moved cities in November 2005.

Agree with both of you. I don't know what batfan is smoking....

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 11/08/16 at 4:50 pm


The second half of 2005 was nothing like the first half, and it was completely disconnected from 2004 and before. Late 2006 wasn't much different from the early part, and the entire year was pretty much an extension of late 2005.

Tell me what changed. The only thing I can think of is XBOX 360 and YouTube debuting.

Other than that... 2005 was the quintessential mid 00s year. Fellow users NYE, Arcticfox, Mq96(Marquis), Infinity(Jacqueline), Zelek, Looney Toon, have all agreed that the second half of 2006, a major cultural shift took place.
Maybe it was more changeful for people us kids of the 90s/ early-mid 00s. ;D


You probably think there was no mid 00s. ::)  To each his own then... ;)

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 11/08/16 at 4:52 pm


until the PS3 came out in late 2000's.

PS3's peak was in the early 2010s.

The Late 2000s was the Wii and XBOX 360 era.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Zelek3 on 11/08/16 at 5:01 pm

Hey Eric, off-topic, but can you respond to the PM I sent?

I'd agree about the late 2000s being the Wii and 360 era. The seventh gen, I'd say, really kicked off in 2007, with blockbuster games like Portal, Super Mario Galaxy, Halo 3, and MW2.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 11/08/16 at 5:19 pm


Hey Eric, off-topic, but can you respond to the PM I sent?

I'd agree about the late 2000s being the Wii and 360 era. The seventh gen, I'd say, really kicked off in 2007, with blockbuster games like Portal, Super Mario Galaxy, Halo 3, and MW2.

Yup I responded to it!

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: mqg96 on 11/08/16 at 6:37 pm


PS3's peak was in the early 2010s.

The Late 2000s was the Wii and XBOX 360 era.


I think the Wii's peak was late 2000's, the PS3's peak was early 2010's, and the XBOX 360's peak was both late 2000's & early 2010's, but in different ways.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: the2001 on 11/09/16 at 6:24 pm

2016 was the end of an era,  Trump winning
is proof of this, the mood of the 2010s has changed overnight

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 11/09/16 at 6:40 pm


2016 was the end of an era,  Trump winning
is proof of this, the mood of the 2010s has changed overnight


It might die off around early 2017, though.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/09/16 at 6:43 pm


2016 was the end of an era,  Trump winning
is proof of this, the mood of the 2010s has changed overnight


Yup!

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/09/16 at 6:46 pm


2016 was the end of an era,  Trump winning
is proof of this, the mood of the 2010s has changed overnight

I don't see it yet. Apart from Trump winning, not much has changed yet.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/09/16 at 6:48 pm


It might die off around early 2017, though.

Yeah I don't think we'll see changes until early to mid 2017. 2016 isn't an end to an era, 2017 may be though.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 11/09/16 at 6:49 pm


Yeah I don't think we'll see chabges until early to mid 2017. 2016 isn't an end to an era, 2017 may be though.


That's what I just said.  :P

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: JordanK1982 on 11/09/16 at 10:01 pm

2017-2019 is gonna feel like a completely different decade. What a complete turn around compared to the more liberal values of 2008-2015.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Brian06 on 11/09/16 at 10:06 pm


2017-2019 is gonna feel like a completely different decade. What a complete turn around compared to the more liberal values of 2008-2015.


Thank God to be honest. I do have concerns about Trump's temperament but I'm cautiously optimistic. This extreme PC BS has been defeated.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/09/16 at 10:10 pm

At the latest the changes will probably show up in late 2017.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: JordanK1982 on 11/09/16 at 10:12 pm


Thank God to be honest. I do have concerns about Trump's temperament but I'm cautiously optimistic. This extreme PC BS has been defeated.


I don't like the whole PC culture going on but Trump's a really unpredictable dude. We'll have to see how these four years pan out but... Jesus, it's so strange...

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/09/16 at 10:15 pm

It's official, the 2010's have peaked!  8)

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Zelek3 on 11/09/16 at 10:18 pm

As I said before, we'll have to wait and see until Trump gets in office.

I feel like people on social media are overreacting a bit (not to mention their statements are often copy-pasted and unoriginal. I can't tell you how many times I've heard the "9/11 = 11/9" joke). They act like Trump is rounding up all Americans and sending them to death camps right now. :P

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: JordanK1982 on 11/09/16 at 10:19 pm


It's official, the 2010's have peaked!  8)


Who knows. Maybe in 10 years, the 2010's will be defined as 2009-2016 while 2017 will begin the 2020s. I mean, you know, crazier things have happened... Such as Donald Trump being elected president...

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Brian06 on 11/09/16 at 10:24 pm


I don't like the whole PC culture going on but Trump's a really unpredictable dude. We'll have to see how these four years pan out but... Jesus, it's so strange...


I thought in the last few years the left went too far with their blame whites/racism for everything mentality and I voted for Obama twice. For all the outrage liberals had about Trump, they need to look in the mirror and realize that their rhetoric is just as or possibly even more divisive than Trump's is. This should be a wake up call to liberals. They really blew it big time.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 11/09/16 at 11:08 pm


Yeah I don't think we'll see changes until early to mid 2017. 2016 isn't an end to an era, 2017 may be though.

Naw bro, 2016 is the end of an era just like 2008 was. 2017 will be the beginning of a new era, just like 2009 ;)

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/09/16 at 11:45 pm


Naw bro, 2016 is the end of an era just like 2008 was. 2017 will be the beginning of a new era, just like 2009 ;)

But how do you know? Nobody is psychic here. You have to wait and see what happens. Maybe there will be lots of changes and maybe there will be none and things may be the same as they were before.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 11/09/16 at 11:55 pm


But how do you know? Nobody is psychic here. You have to wait and see what happens. Maybe there will be lots of changes and maybe there will be none and things may be the same as they were before.

It's just my opinion dude... ;D ;)  It kinda feels like the end of an era to me.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: the2001 on 11/10/16 at 10:09 am


It's just my opinion dude... ;D ;)  It kinda feels like the end of an era to me.


As I have stated before 2016 was already heading towards a diff feel in like  Late July/Aug
this whole Trump thing puts the stamp on it.

The classic 2010s as well know it are over. Sadly

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/10/16 at 10:13 am


It's just my opinion dude... ;D ;)  It kinda feels like the end of an era to me.

But music, fashion, TV, movies are still the same for now.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: the2001 on 11/10/16 at 10:15 am


But music, fashion, TV, movies are still the same for now.


Fashion has changed a tiny bit,
Logomania are back in brands,
brands like Gucci are bringng back prints with logos everywhere.

Trainers  (yeezys, roshes) reamain the default sneaker
along with creepers

Oversized sweatshirts (Vetements) with long sleeves are also in vogue

Streetwear brands like Supreme see a minor comeback

As for tv shows,  Reality shows seem pretty rare,  Minus KUWTK, anything on Bravo, Vh1

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 11/10/16 at 11:54 am


But music, fashion, TV, movies are still the same for now.

Music, fashion, and movies I agree with. But a lot of shows have ended or are ending...

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: #Infinity on 11/10/16 at 2:03 pm


Who knows. Maybe in 10 years, the 2010's will be defined as 2009-2016 while 2017 will begin the 2020s. I mean, you know, crazier things have happened... Such as Donald Trump being elected president...


You know, a part of me is almost amused because today's hordes of SJW's complained constantly about Trump all over their tumblrs, Twitters, and Facebooks, yet when the election finally arrived, a lot of them didn't even vote because they were so upset that Bernie Sanders didn't earn the Democratic nomination. It really goes to prove all the majesty of slacktivism this age. Crazy as many of their beliefs are, Trump supporters at LEAST understood how to campaign effectively and show up to vote. To be fair, minority disenfranchisement is likely one factor that worked against Hillary, but if Obama could win the election with such comfortable numbers twice in a row, you would think Clinton would have had the same fate.

You'd think the spread of social media over the past 8 years would have given younger generations a distinct edge in their campaigning efforts, but as has been the case with most consequences of social media, it's only turned more of them into pieces of mush who talk loud but are ultimately incapable of bringing about any true positive change.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/10/16 at 2:30 pm


Who knows. Maybe in 10 years, the 2010's will be defined as 2009-2016 while 2017 will begin the 2020s. I mean, you know, crazier things have happened... Such as Donald Trump being elected president...


I'm still in denial, somewhat.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: mqg96 on 11/10/16 at 2:35 pm


You know, a part of me is almost amused because today's hordes of SJW's complained constantly about Trump all over their tumblrs, Twitters, and Facebooks, yet when the election finally arrived, a lot of them didn't even vote because they were so upset that Bernie Sanders didn't earn the Democratic nomination. It really goes to prove all the majesty of slacktivism this age. Crazy as many of their beliefs are, Trump supporters at LEAST understood how to campaign effectively and show up to vote. To be fair, minority disenfranchisement is likely one factor that worked against Hillary, but if Obama could win the election with such comfortable numbers twice in a row, you would think Clinton would have had the same fate.


Looking at this statement. It's still painful. Agony of defeat.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Howard on 11/10/16 at 2:49 pm


At the latest the changes will probably show up in late 2017.


What changes? ???

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 11/10/16 at 3:59 pm


Looking at this statement. It's still painful. Agony of defeat.


I would've still voted for Clinton if I were old enough. But frankly, they should've realized that Bernie Sanders actually endorsed Hillary ever since June. I mean, at least that would be positive for them, but they chose to ignore it.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 11/10/16 at 4:11 pm


What changes? ???


Maybe he means what Donald Trump and the majority Republican government is going to change in 2017. 

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/10/16 at 4:18 pm


Maybe he means what Donald Trump and the majority Republican government is going to change in 2017.


Thanks for answering him, but I meant both politics and pop culture!  ;D

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: batfan2005 on 11/10/16 at 7:57 pm


Tell me what changed. The only thing I can think of is XBOX 360 and YouTube debuting.

Other than that... 2005 was the quintessential mid 00s year. Fellow users NYE, Arcticfox, Mq96(Marquis), Infinity(Jacqueline), Zelek, Looney Toon, have all agreed that the second half of 2006, a major cultural shift took place.
Maybe it was more changeful for people us kids of the 90s/ early-mid 00s. ;D


You probably think there was no mid 00s. ::)  To each his own then... ;)


And I disagree with all of you. Fall of 2005 changed a lot, such as music, movies, TV shows, video games, etc. I don't even feel like getting into the details again. Nothing really changed in 2006. I am really tired of people on this forum talking about 2006 is the year everything changed. That whole entire year was bland and lacked character. There really wasn't a mid 00's, culturally. There was 2001-2004, and then there was 2005-2008. That's the two distinct eras of that decade. I don't see how anyone can see otherwise, but then again there's plenty of people in this forum who think Hillary would have been a good president.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: batfan2005 on 11/10/16 at 8:00 pm


Thank God to be honest. I do have concerns about Trump's temperament but I'm cautiously optimistic. This extreme PC BS has been defeated.


Thank you. I am sick of the PC BS myself.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 11/10/16 at 8:09 pm


And I disagree with all of you. Fall of 2005 changed a lot, such as music, movies, TV shows, video games, etc. I don't even feel like getting into the details again. Not thing really changed in 2006. I am really tired of people on this forum talking about 2006 is the year everything changed.

Sigh... Classic 00s tv shows were still on in the fall of 2005(That's 70 Show, Malcom in the Middle, West Wing, Wil and Grace).  Music didn't change that much in 2005, with the exception of Rihanna and Chris Brown debuting. Video games were still in the PS2 era. 2006 saw the end of that era. Kids networks were still showing reruns of 90s shows. How did movies change? 2005 for movies was like 2004.

Like I've said before, for us 90s and 00s kids, 2006 was THE change.  Maybe since you're older it didn't really affect you as much.

To each his own.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Zelek3 on 11/10/16 at 8:21 pm


2006 saw the end of that era. Kids networks were still showing reruns of 90s shows. How did movies change? 2005 for movies was like 2004.

Like I've said before, for us 90s and 00s kids, 2006 was THE change.  Maybe since you're older it didn't really affect you as much.

To each his own.

Correction: late 2006 was the change. ;)

Early-mid 2006 was pretty much the same as 04 and 05.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/10/16 at 8:23 pm

Was 2008 the REAL change towards the 10's?  ???

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: mqg96 on 11/10/16 at 8:31 pm


Correction: late 2006 was the change. ;)

Early-mid 2006 was pretty much the same as 04 and 05.


It doesn't matter..... mid 2006, late 2006, or 2006 as a whole. 2006 in general is when things culturally shifted from the mid to late 2000's for most of us.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: mqg96 on 11/10/16 at 8:34 pm


Was 2008 the REAL change towards the 10's?  ???


So far, despite Trump being elected, I still don't think 2016 is as drastic of a change as 2008 was. I think 2016-2017 will play out like 2000-2001 did. Despite Bush being elected in 2000, the majority of the changes didn't happen culturally until 2001. I think the majority of the changes will happen throughout 2017 despite Trump being elected now this year. Back when Obama was elected, things were already changing rapidly throughout 2008 as a whole year and that continued on throughout 2009.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/10/16 at 8:35 pm


So far, despite Trump being elected, I still don't think 2016 is as drastic of a change as 2008 was. I think 2016-2017 will play out like 2000-2001 did. Despite Bush being elected in 2000, the majority of the changes didn't happen culturally until 2001. I think the majority of the changes will happen throughout 2017 despite Trump being elected now this year. Back when Obama was elected, things were already changing rapidly throughout 2008 as a whole year and that continued on throughout 2009.


I'll give it a few years.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/10/16 at 8:41 pm

Really, you could find "big shifts" in every year. How important or significant they are to someone will depend on the person. It's hard to have an objective discussion on something that's essentially subjective. :P

I still like the discussions though, because you can find out a lot about a person depending on where they think the big shifts are  :D

No one asked for it, but my personal opinion is that late 2005 was the start of the shift to the late 2000s. In late 2005, we got World of Warcraft, Mario Kart DS, and the launch of the Xbox 360, so at the very least, online gaming was really taking off! A lot of spectacular TV shows too in The Office, Prison Break and How I Met Your Mother made their debuts and became iconic 2000s staples.

In terms of technology, late 2005 was also the beginning of the "iPod era" if you were in middle school/high school. At the point everyone HAD to have one (it was there in 2004-05 school year too, but not essential or any peer pressure to get one until the next). YouTube and Wikipedia took off, and if you were a internet-scrouging millennial like me, you found these sites early, they were always the top results on Google.

2004-05 school year was when my school installed the Wi-fi, but in 2005-06 is when we started bringing laptops to school a lot more often and expected to do our work on them. The first day of school, I remember got a letter about recommended laptop models, then I had to give in my laptop to the school's IT team, they took it for two weeks and gave it back after installing the Wi-fi, school's network drives (before cloud storage!) and a really obtrusive anti-virus. 8-P

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 11/10/16 at 8:43 pm


Correction: late 2006 was the change. ;)

Early-mid 2006 was pretty much the same as 04 and 05.

True!

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/10/16 at 8:44 pm

For me, there were lots of shifts in 2008.  :)

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 11/10/16 at 8:45 pm


So far, despite Trump being elected, I still don't think 2016 is as drastic of a change as 2008 was. I think 2016-2017 will play out like 2000-2001 did. Despite Bush being elected in 2000, the majority of the changes didn't happen culturally until 2001. I think the majority of the changes will happen throughout 2017 despite Trump being elected now this year. Back when Obama was elected, things were already changing rapidly throughout 2008 as a whole year and that continued on throughout 2009.

Yup!

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 11/10/16 at 8:46 pm


For me, there were lots of shifts in 2008.  :)

Yup 2008 felt like the FINAL nail in the coffin to that era.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/10/16 at 8:52 pm


Yup 2008 felt like the FINAL nail in the coffin to that era.


So many.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/10/16 at 8:59 pm


So far, despite Trump being elected, I still don't think 2016 is as drastic of a change as 2008 was. I think 2016-2017 will play out like 2000-2001 did. Despite Bush being elected in 2000, the majority of the changes didn't happen culturally until 2001. I think the majority of the changes will happen throughout 2017 despite Trump being elected now this year. Back when Obama was elected, things were already changing rapidly throughout 2008 as a whole year and that continued on throughout 2009.


We could at least say the late 2010s started almost on time! November 2016 was the beginning, June 2015 was the beginning of the shift (Trump announces candidacy, beginning of Syrian refugee crisis), the shift might end and we reach the peak of the late 2010s sometime in 2017 or 2018. Hopefully it's short as possible.

Ugh, to think I was so optimistic of what the  "peak of the late 2010s" would entail. Nintendo Switch (which turned out to be gimped), legal weed, the first affordable electric and self-driving car in the Tesla Model S, the take off of VR etc. I guess most these things will still happen, but the Orange Menace will nonetheless be the face of the era and what will ultimately define it. I'm gonna need that weed.  :\'(

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/10/16 at 9:11 pm

I drank four glasses of Tequila just an hour ago! I feel better now.  :)

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 11/10/16 at 9:12 pm


We could at least say the late 2010s started almost on time! November 2016 was the beginning, June 2015 was the beginning of the shift (Trump announces candidacy, beginning of Syrian refugee crisis), the shift might end and we reach the peak of the late 2010s sometime in 2017 or 2018. Hopefully it's short as possible.

Ugh, to think I was so optimistic of what the  "peak of the late 2010s" would entail. Nintendo Switch (which turned out to be gimped), legal weed, the first affordable electric and self-driving car in the Tesla Model S, the take off of VR etc. I guess most these things will still happen, but the Orange Menace will nonetheless be the face of the era and what will ultimately define it. I'm gonna need that weed.  :\'(


If marijuana would be legal in New York, then I would probably think of the legal weed more than Trump in the future.  :P

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/10/16 at 9:17 pm

I should start smoking. It'll make me feel grown up.

http://breathelifehealingcenters.com/sitefiles/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Smoking-suicide.jpg

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/10/16 at 9:20 pm


I should start smoking. It'll make me feel grown up.

http://breathelifehealingcenters.com/sitefiles/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Smoking-suicide.jpg


Let's do a mid-2010s Vape Nation revival.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/10/16 at 9:25 pm


Let's do a mid-2010s Vape Nation revival.


Is that a new vinyl record?  ???

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/10/16 at 9:27 pm


Is that a new vinyl record?  ???


Wow you are definitely not in with this young, hip, beat, tough crowd!  :o

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/10/16 at 9:31 pm


Wow you are definitely not in with this young, hip, beat, tough crowd!  :o


Haha!

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/10/16 at 9:54 pm


We could at least say the late 2010s started almost on time! November 2016 was the beginning, June 2015 was the beginning of the shift (Trump announces candidacy, beginning of Syrian refugee crisis), the shift might end and we reach the peak of the late 2010s sometime in 2017 or 2018. Hopefully it's short as possible.

Ugh, to think I was so optimistic of what the  "peak of the late 2010s" would entail. Nintendo Switch (which turned out to be gimped), legal weed, the first affordable electric and self-driving car in the Tesla Model S, the take off of VR etc. I guess most these things will still happen, but the Orange Menace will nonetheless be the face of the era and what will ultimately define it. I'm gonna need that weed.  :\'(

In my opinion, I noticed a shift late 2014/early 2015. It was a pretty small shift though. I think we will see some changes in 2017 and 2017 will be a transitional year. They said they're legalizing weed on 4/20 2017, so that will be cool. I think I'm gonna need some weed too.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/10/16 at 9:57 pm


Was 2008 the REAL change towards the 10's?  ???

Yes, 2008 was the real change. I didn't really notice many changes from 2006 like a lot of people did. There were some but nothing like 2008.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 11/10/16 at 9:59 pm


Correction: late 2006 was the change. ;)

Early-mid 2006 was pretty much the same as 04 and 05.


I agree with this. Everything didn't really felt like the late 2000s until the 2006-07 school year came. Although, it was the last season where mid 2000s influences were still around. But even then, I noticed some changes compared to the 2004-05 and 2005-06 school years. Like of how the Internet was turning over YouTube, despite not knowing about it until the summer of 2007.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/10/16 at 10:01 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if 2018 turns out to be the final year of the cultural 2010s as that year will be the grand finale of Game of Thrones. If things don't change next year, I think they will for sure change in 2018.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 11/10/16 at 10:17 pm


I wouldn't be surprised if 2018 turns out to be the final year of the cultural 2010s as that year will be the grand finale of Game of Thrones. If things don't change next year, I think they will for sure change in 2018.

So you sayin, just like 1998 and 2008 were kinda the last year of their cultural decades? ;)

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 11/10/16 at 10:18 pm


Yes, 2008 was the real change. I didn't really notice many changes from 2006 like a lot of people did. There were some but nothing like 2008.

Yup. 2006 was a big shift, but nothin compared to 2008. :o

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 11/10/16 at 10:18 pm


I wouldn't be surprised if 2018 turns out to be the final year of the cultural 2010s as that year will be the grand finale of Game of Thrones. If things don't change next year, I think they will for sure change in 2018.


Hopefully, HBO might get better ideas than to make a seven year long series about a damn fantasy adventure. Hell, even Lord of the Rings wasn't as long as GOT.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/10/16 at 10:20 pm


Hopefully, HBO might get better ideas than to make a seven year long series about a damn fantasy adventure. Hell, even Lord of the Rings wasn't as long as GOT.


Game of Thrones is one of the greatest TV shows ever made. Fight me.  >:(

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/10/16 at 10:28 pm


So you sayin, just like 1998 and 2008 were kinda the last year of their cultural decades? ;)

Yeah maybe it will be the same for the 2010s.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/10/16 at 10:29 pm


Game of Thrones is one of the greatest TV shows ever made. Fight me.  >:(

I totally agree.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: BornIn86 on 11/10/16 at 11:58 pm


Thank you. I am sick of the PC BS myself.


As much as I'd like for my fellow leftists to reign in the perpetual victim aspect of it, I'm getting the feeling Trump's rise is accelerating it. Trump will have a small bump during the inauguration but I think his approval rating is gonna be in free fall after that.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 11/11/16 at 12:00 am


I totally agree.

Game of Thrones is one of the greatest TV shows ever made. Fight me.  >:(


I'm not even allowed to watch Game of Thrones. :(

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: mqg96 on 11/11/16 at 12:03 am


I'm not even allowed to watch Game of Thrones. :(


You're in your mid teens not allowed to watch Game of Thrones!?  ???

I hate that for you man.... I haven't watched the series yet though, as well as many other deep story driven HBO series. I just started binge-watching the Walking Dead last year and I've been caught up since the end of season 6.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 11/11/16 at 5:59 am

I honestly don't know how to describe 2016. The US election definitely feels like the start of a new era, however I don't think the election marked the end of core 2010's culture. Personally, I don't view 2016 as being a core 2010s year at all. Last year, the culture generally felt optimistic and it really did feel as though we were right within the midst of core 2010s culture. This year, however, the culture feels completely stagnant and it doesn't feel as optimistic either. That's just my opinion, anyway.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Howard on 11/11/16 at 7:08 am


Maybe he means what Donald Trump and the majority Republican government is going to change in 2017.


They should lower the gas prices and bus fare.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Howard on 11/11/16 at 7:09 am


I'll give it a few years.


I don't think he'll make it to 4.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: the2001 on 11/11/16 at 9:40 am


I honestly don't know how to describe 2016. The US election definitely feels like the start of a new era, however I don't think the election marked the end of core 2010's culture. Personally, I don't view 2016 as being a core 2010s year at all. Last year, the culture generally felt optimistic and it really did feel as though we were right within the midst of core 2010s culture. This year, however, the culture feels completely stagnant and it doesn't feel as optimistic either. That's just my opinion, anyway.


I disagree, 2016 still feels like a typical mid year of a decade, But legit as soon as Trump was announced as president  everything pretty much changed.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: the2001 on 11/11/16 at 9:41 am


I wouldn't be surprised if 2018 turns out to be the final year of the cultural 2010s as that year will be the grand finale of Game of Thrones. If things don't change next year, I think they will for sure change in 2018.
it will

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: nintieskid999 on 11/11/16 at 9:47 am


I honestly don't know how to describe 2016. The US election definitely feels like the start of a new era, however I don't think the election marked the end of core 2010's culture. Personally, I don't view 2016 as being a core 2010s year at all. Last year, the culture generally felt optimistic and it really did feel as though we were right within the midst of core 2010s culture. This year, however, the culture feels completely stagnant and it doesn't feel as optimistic either. That's just my opinion, anyway.


The whole 2010s felt dark to me. It's just accelerating it now.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: SpyroKev on 11/11/16 at 10:05 am


I honestly don't know how to describe 2016. The US election definitely feels like the start of a new era, however I don't think the election marked the end of core 2010's culture.


It don't? The election ending give off that sense that something heavy is got out of the way for me.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 11/11/16 at 10:50 am


I'm not even allowed to watch Game of Thrones. :(


That sucks. I'm gonna turn 17 in December, and even my parents let me watch shows like Game of Thrones ever since I was interested into HBO.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/11/16 at 3:11 pm


I'm not even allowed to watch Game of Thrones. :(


I call this child neglect.

I used to play GTA: Vice City when I was 10, lol.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 11/11/16 at 3:14 pm


I call this child neglect.

I used to play GTA: Vice City when I was 10, lol.


I watched The Strangers (a horror movie) when I was 8.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/11/16 at 3:19 pm


I watched The Strangers (a horror movie) when I was 8.


What was in it?

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 11/11/16 at 3:49 pm


What was in it?


It was about a couple who went inside their summer home. While they were in it, they noticed a knock on the door. Nobody was there at the door step, so they ignored it. Later, they noticed that three people with masks started to cause suspicious things in their house. They tried to ward them off, but they were knocked out and tied. The three masked people then stabbed the couple brutally, leaving their corpses inside.

Here's a trailer when the movie was released:
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Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: batfan2005 on 11/11/16 at 4:04 pm


Sigh... Classic 00s tv shows were still on in the fall of 2005(That's 70 Show, Malcom in the Middle, West Wing, Wil and Grace).  Music didn't change that much in 2005, with the exception of Rihanna and Chris Brown debuting. Video games were still in the PS2 era. 2006 saw the end of that era. Kids networks were still showing reruns of 90s shows. How did movies change? 2005 for movies was like 2004.

Like I've said before, for us 90s and 00s kids, 2006 was THE change.  Maybe since you're older it didn't really affect you as much.

To each his own.


Yeah, you're right. I am older. I think of 2005 like I remember 1989, and 2006 like 1990. I don't think that just because some classic TV shows were still on meant that it was still the same. I mean the Simpsons were still on in 2005 and are still on today. Speaking of the Simpsons, I remember 2005 as being the first year that the Simpsons seemed irrelevant, as Family Guy became more popular and American Dad premiered. It also had the premier of the Office and How I Met Your Mother (which was a huge change from when "Friends" ended in 2004). Musically, there was less glam rap and Crunk, and more dance pop. Everyone seems to think JT's FutureSex/LoveSounds is like the 2006's Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit". If you listen to Missy Elliot's "Lose Control" and JT's "Sexy Back" back-to-back, they sound like they could have come out the same time. A mash-up of the two songs would sound really good. You also had The Gorillaz and Fall Out Boy. For movies, it was the beginning of Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight series, and the trend of remakes and reboots. Video games, the Xbox 360 and PSP launches marked the beginning of the 7th gen.


So far, despite Trump being elected, I still don't think 2016 is as drastic of a change as 2008 was. I think 2016-2017 will play out like 2000-2001 did. Despite Bush being elected in 2000, the majority of the changes didn't happen culturally until 2001. I think the majority of the changes will happen throughout 2017 despite Trump being elected now this year. Back when Obama was elected, things were already changing rapidly throughout 2008 as a whole year and that continued on throughout 2009.


I agree, and this supports my 16 year parallel theory. I was just off about the recount in Florida happening again this year.

Really, you could find "big shifts" in every year. How important or significant they are to someone will depend on the person. It's hard to have an objective discussion on something that's essentially subjective. :P

I still like the discussions though, because you can find out a lot about a person depending on where they think the big shifts are  :D

No one asked for it, but my personal opinion is that late 2005 was the start of the shift to the late 2000s. In late 2005, we got World of Warcraft, Mario Kart DS, and the launch of the Xbox 360, so at the very least, online gaming was really taking off! A lot of spectacular TV shows too in The Office, Prison Break and How I Met Your Mother made their debuts and became iconic 2000s staples.

In terms of technology, late 2005 was also the beginning of the "iPod era" if you were in middle school/high school. At the point everyone HAD to have one (it was there in 2004-05 school year too, but not essential or any peer pressure to get one until the next). YouTube and Wikipedia took off, and if you were a internet-scrouging millennial like me, you found these sites early, they were always the top results on Google.

2004-05 school year was when my school installed the Wi-fi, but in 2005-06 is when we started bringing laptops to school a lot more often and expected to do our work on them. The first day of school, I remember got a letter about recommended laptop models, then I had to give in my laptop to the school's IT team, they took it for two weeks and gave it back after installing the Wi-fi, school's network drives (before cloud storage!) and a really obtrusive anti-virus. 8-P


Finally someone who agrees with me.

Anyhow, I mentioned this before but I always felt that the first year of a presidential term is the beginning of a new era, even if it's a reelected president's second term. 1989 was the first year of Bush Sr, and started the Early 90's culture. 1993 was Bill Clinton's first year and started the mid-90's culture. 1997 started the late 90's/Y2K culture. 2001 was GWB's first year and of course with 9/11 it started a new vibe. Already talked about 2005 so no need to beat that dead horse. 2009 was Obama's first year and started the early 2010's culture, and 2013 started the current era which unfortunately is my least favorite era I can remember, the era of PC BS, SJW, BLM, ISIS, bland/generic music, mass shootings, and just a lot of anger and hatred which all led to Trump getting elected. I hope 2017 will begin a better era, but I think things will get worse before they get better.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/11/16 at 4:24 pm

I don't know why people hate PC and SJWs so much. I'm happy people are fighting for social change this era, I see it as a positive. I don't like the conservatives of this era but they were around all the time so it isn't era-specific.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 11/11/16 at 5:32 pm


I don't know why people hate PC and SJWs so much. I'm happy people are fighting for social change this era, I see it as a positive. I don't like the conservatives of this era but they were around all the time so it isn't era-specific.


People hate SJWs so much because they tend to be hypocrites on their standards. They want to defend anybody's civil rights, but they despite straight white men, due to them thinking they ruined the world. For political correctness, it tends to be distasteful towards far-right wing supporters. It also goes to extreme levels where people think anything is offensive, and they have to use political correctness because of it.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/11/16 at 5:40 pm


People hate SJWs so much because they tend to be hypocrites on their standards. They want to defend anybody's civil rights, but they despite straight white men, due to them thinking they ruined the world. For political correctness, it tends to be distasteful towards far-right wing supporters. It also goes to extreme levels where people think anything is offensive, and they have to use political correctness because of it.

I've never heard a single SJW claim they hate white people. Many are white themselves. Just saying... and political correctness is fine. It's a good practice to avoid offending people. I've seen far more alt right movements this decade than SJWs.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 11/11/16 at 5:50 pm


I've never heard a single SJW claim they hate white people. Many are white themselves. Just saying... and political correctness is fine. It's a good practice to avoid offending people. I've seen far more alt right movements this decade than SJWs.


Have you even asked what they thought about white straight males? Notice of how I'm saying "straight males", not just white people. It could be true that most of them are white straight/lesbian/transgender women, but that doesn't mean they entirely hate white people.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 11/11/16 at 7:22 pm


Yeah, you're right. I am older. I think of 2005 like I remember 1989, and 2006 like 1990. I don't think that just because some classic TV shows were still on meant that it was still the same. I mean the Simpsons were still on in 2005 and are still on today. Speaking of the Simpsons, I remember 2005 as being the first year that the Simpsons seemed irrelevant, as Family Guy became more popular and American Dad premiered. It also had the premier of the Office and How I Met Your Mother (which was a huge change from when "Friends" ended in 2004). Musically, there was less glam rap and Crunk, and more dance pop. Everyone seems to think JT's FutureSex/LoveSounds is like the 2006's Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit". If you listen to Missy Elliot's "Lose Control" and JT's "Sexy Back" back-to-back, they sound like they could have come out the same time. A mash-up of the two songs would sound really good. You also had The Gorillaz and Fall Out Boy. For movies, it was the beginning of Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight series, and the trend of remakes and reboots. Video games, the Xbox 360 and PSP launches marked the beginning of the 7th gen.

I agree, and this supports my 16 year parallel theory. I was just off about the recount in Florida happening again this year.
Finally someone who agrees with me.

Good lord, your 16 year theory stuff again.... No wonder you think of the 00s the way you do.

Anyways, Criminal Minds, Everybody Hates Chris, The Office and HIMYM didn't change tv overnight. Like I said you still had The WB and UPN, The West Wing, Arrested Development, Etc.

7th gen didn't really start until late 2006 when PS3 and Wii debuted. 2005 was STILL a 6th gen year! Even the first half of 06 was still 6th.

Movies were still like 2004, in 2005. Despite the fact that HD DVDs came and the Nolsn Batman trilogy started.

Although, late 2005 and early 06 were transitiong to late 00s, it was still mid.

But yeah age will play a factor on how we view eras.


Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: BornIn86 on 11/11/16 at 8:28 pm


I don't know why people hate PC and SJWs so much. I'm happy people are fighting for social change this era, I see it as a positive. I don't like the conservatives of this era but they were around all the time so it isn't era-specific.


(Sorry that this is really long)

For the most part...I'm gay. I'm also African American. I'm a liberal that has voted democratic 94% of the time. I'm also a nerd who likes offensive humor. The number 1 reason I love being is liberal is our humor. The most loyal conservative might be more loyal than the most loyal liberal. The most productive conservative might be more productive than the most productive liberal, and so on and so on down the list of great qualities but if there is one thing we all know is true, the funniest conservative is nowhere near funnier than the funniest liberal. When making jokes about blacks, the funniest of us know how to make fun of the ridiculous parts of African American culture, ourselves, our society, and truly sympathize with the plight of AAs all in one joke! When conservatives attempt this, they only know how to be assholes and think they've accomplished the same level of wit. :P

I HATE the phrase "social justice warrior" since it's nothing less than a pejorative. It's a word that can be used against anyone left of center, no matter how close to the center you are. Nevertheless, there is a segment of people who subscribe to social justice who find offensive humor "oppressive". There are so many jokes that can come from Trumps grab em by the pussy line, and according to many of these...SJW's...these jokes trivialize rape and molestation.

After realizing how sheeshty many of these activists can be towards even our white, straight, and male allies...(ALLIES!) out in the real world, I finally understood where the "anti-SJW" crowd were coming from.

I will give this warning tho...on the heels of the anti-SJW movement, a smaller, more sinister, abhorrent movement is gaining traction. Some people are turning to real racism, sexism, nationalism, all under the guise of rationality, science, and common-sense. Some people refer to many of them as the alt-right.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Foo Bar on 11/11/16 at 10:39 pm


(Sorry that this is really long)

For the most part...I'm gay. I'm also African American. I'm a liberal that has voted democratic 94% of the time. I'm also a nerd who likes offensive humor. The number 1 reason I love being is liberal is our humor.

...

I will give this warning tho...on the heels of the anti-SJW movement, a smaller, more sinister, abhorrent movement is gaining traction. Some people are turning to real racism, sexism, nationalism, all under the guise of rationality, science, and common-sense. Some people refer to many of them as the alt-right.


Karma for getting it.  I find the alt-right to be, dare I say, deplorable.  But... dammit, how does Hilllary argue with this?

http://i.imgur.com/lmLSsCj.gif

Trump's supporters outside the alt-right were the funniest, lulziest, dankest memesters on the 'net.  One day it's a video game. 

http://i.imgur.com/1ZCJptU.jpg

And the next day it's about Pepe. 

Now I reallize that's got nothing to do with qualifications, temperament, or even policy.  But that's the point.  It doesn't matter which candidate you support - nor even anything about policy - those are funny (and they're funny without bringing up racism, sexism, or anything to do with policy, and that's also the point.)

http://i.imgur.com/w0Y3kKF.jpg

For my fellow Xer (and any Boomers out there) oldf...arts to whom this makes no sense, this election was the Twitter/Meme/Viral election.  That's the medium that matters now.

Anyone old enough to remember (or to have read in their history books) about Nixon vs. Kennedy was that it was the first televised debate.  People who listened to it on radio generally thought Nixon won.  People who watched it on this strange new medium called television thought Kennedy won.  He didn't sweat.  He made eye contact with the viewer through the camera, and so on.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/11/16 at 10:42 pm


Karma for getting it.  I find the alt-right to be, dare I say, deplorable.  But... dammit, how does Hilllary argue with this?

http://i.imgur.com/lmLSsCj.gif

Trump's supporters outside the alt-right were the funniest, lulziest, dankest memesters on the 'net.  One day it's a video game. 

http://i.imgur.com/1ZCJptU.jpg

And the next day it's about Pepe. 

Now I reallize that's got nothing to do with qualifications, temperament, or even policy.  But that's the point.  It doesn't matter which candidate you support - nor even anything about policy - those are funny (and they're funny without bringing up racism, sexism, or anything to do with policy, and that's also the point.)

http://i.imgur.com/w0Y3kKF.jpg

For my fellow Xer (and any Boomers out there) oldf...arts to whom this makes no sense, this election was the Twitter/Meme/Viral election.  That's the medium that matters now.

Anyone old enough to remember (or to have read in their history books) about Nixon vs. Kennedy was that it was the first televised debate.  People who listened to it on radio generally thought Nixon won.  People who watched it on this strange new medium called television thought Kennedy won.  He didn't sweat.  He made eye contact with the viewer through the camera, and so on.


Trump Quest.....I'm entranced and hypnotized!  :o  :o

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Foo Bar on 11/11/16 at 11:00 pm


Trump Quest.....I'm entranced and hypnotized!  :o  :o


Exactly!

http://i.imgur.com/RclcQcv.png

Q: "What's your position on issue-of-the-day?"

Clinton: "This is a complicated issue.  We have several options available to us, but it depends on how engaged our partners are and whether they're willing to make the investments required to leverage their synergies..."

Trump: "DANK MEME! "

Clinton: "The Harvard Policy Institute recently issued a 46-page white paper on issue-of-the-day, during which they concluded that, to within statistical significance, the correct answer to issue-of-the-day is one of the following three solutions..."

Trump:
https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu/giphy.gif


Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/12/16 at 9:00 am



I agree, and this supports my 16 year parallel theory. I was just off about the recount in Florida happening again this year.
Finally someone who agrees with me.


What is the 16 year parallel theory?

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: J. Rob on 11/12/16 at 9:49 am

The way felt a shift from 1996 to 1997....and from 2007 to 2008....I got that same feeling when Trump was elected....and it felt MUCH stronger. The 2010s are definitely over.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: batfan2005 on 11/12/16 at 10:08 am


What is the 16 year parallel theory?


It's my theory that each year is similar the year that was 16 years before it. For example, 2016 and 2000. How I came up with that number is with the presidential terms, especially in recent decades it has been alternating between Democrat to Republican presidents who each served two terms, so Trump got elected in 2016 during Obama's 8th year in office, just like how GWB got elected in 2000 during Bill Clinton's last year in office. The political situation does shape the culture as well, based on the moods and tones. Also the generation span is about 16 years, so 2016 is to the Millennials as 2000 was to Gen X that were the same age at the time.

You can pick any year and find a lot of similarities to the year that was 16 years before it, such as 2012 and 1996, 2008 and 1992, etc.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: mqg96 on 11/12/16 at 10:19 am


It's my theory that each year is similar the year that was 16 years before it. For example, 2016 and 2000. How I came up with that number is with the presidential terms, especially in recent decades it has been alternating between Democrat to Republican presidents who each served two terms, so Trump got elected in 2016 during Obama's 8th year in office, just like how GWB got elected in 2000 during Bill Clinton's last year in office. The political situation does shape the culture as well, based on the moods and tones. Also the generation span is about 16 years, so 2016 is to the Millennials as 2000 was to Gen X that were the same age at the time.

You can pick any year and find a lot of similarities to the year that was 16 years before it, such as 2012 and 1996, 2008 and 1992, etc.


Honestly IMO, I think the 2000 election was the first for people on the X/Y cusp (1979-1982), the 2008 election was the first for the peak Y generation (1987-1990), and this year's election has been the first for people on the Y/Z cusp (1995-1998). It makes perfect sense, and millennials & Gen Y are the exact same terms. My dad's first election was when Ronald Reagan was re-elected in 1984 and that was clearly the borderline between Boomers & X.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: bchris02 on 11/13/16 at 12:10 am

Political stuff aside, 2016 was the year I fell out of touch with Top 40 music.  I did like some songs this year but I wasn't near as tuned in as I have been for probably 16-17 years.  I turned it on my local Top 40 station today and didn't know any of the songs I was hearing.  The last time that happened for me was summer of 1999, before I started getting into Top 40.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/13/16 at 7:34 am

I honestly see nothing wrong with the Social Justice Warriors, I just had problems with one, one time.  ;D

I just wished they'd learn to reign it in and not come on so accusatory all the time.

Because without social justice, people like me wouldn't be accepted in the United States.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/13/16 at 9:25 am


I honestly see nothing wrong with the Social Justice Warriors, I just had problems with one, one time.  ;D

I just wished they'd learn to reign it in and not come on so accusatory all the time.

Because without social justice, people like me wouldn't be accepted in the United States.


What did the one SJW say?

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 11/13/16 at 9:31 am


What did the one SJW say?


She said she wanted a safe space. lol

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Looney Toon on 11/13/16 at 11:50 am


The way felt a shift from 1996 to 1997....and from 2007 to 2008....I got that same feeling when Trump was elected....and it felt MUCH stronger. The 2010s are definitely over.


Yeah, I can see 2018-2019 being quite far in terms of culture and politics when compared to say 2012 or even 2015.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/13/16 at 2:02 pm


Political stuff aside, 2016 was the year I fell out of touch with Top 40 music.  I did like some songs this year but I wasn't near as tuned in as I have been for probably 16-17 years.  I turned it on my local Top 40 station today and didn't know any of the songs I was hearing.  The last time that happened for me was summer of 1999, before I started getting into Top 40.


That means you missed out on Ariana Grande's only decent single.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/13/16 at 3:20 pm


She said she wanted a safe space. lol


She wanted my money!  >:(

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/13/16 at 3:24 pm


She wanted my money!  >:(


Putting the warrior in social justice warrior. *salutes*

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/13/16 at 3:27 pm


Putting the warrior in social justice warrior. *salutes*


She was crooked!  >:(

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/13/16 at 3:28 pm


She was crooked!  >:(


Was this a Hillary Clinton fundraising email?

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/13/16 at 3:32 pm


Was this a Hillary Clinton fundraising email?


She deleted them.  ;)

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: #Infinity on 11/13/16 at 3:59 pm


The way felt a shift from 1996 to 1997....and from 2007 to 2008....I got that same feeling when Trump was elected....and it felt MUCH stronger. The 2010s are definitely over.


I'd say they're still going, 2016 is really to this decade what 1968 was to the 60s: the tumultuous culmination of several years of social protest, controversy, and transforming attitudes. Trump's election is like the upset of MLK and RFK's respective deaths in the way it galvanized a youth culture already full of unrest to even greater levels of backlash against the current establishment. My guess is the Trump presidency will be a lot like Nixon's, albeit more explicitly prejudiced despite a similar theme of restoring "law and order" to a country that had lost it.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/13/16 at 4:11 pm


Putting the warrior in social justice warrior. *salutes*


Also, you/I never know. Maybe years, or decades later, I will become a Democrat. Life is unpredictable! Maybe the Right will do something to anger me, and I will switch at age 55, or something!  :D

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: BornIn86 on 11/13/16 at 4:31 pm

No "SJW" is terrible enough  to make me vote Republican, that's for sure. I'm waiting for the right wing to bring in Eisenhower Pt 2. When they do that and quit with the whole anti-gay rights mess, I'll consider voting Republican.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: the2001 on 11/13/16 at 4:42 pm

2016 feels like drinking a 2 rebulls ( the feeling of being hyped but knowing in about 45 min you are going to crash)

2006 had a similar feeling, YOu are in the culture but it won't last that long. If you were a decadeologist then you know
the feeling. You knew that crash "  The culture the zeightgiest"  wasnt going to last very longer.

I even made this thread months before Trump won, and you could tell things were already changing, the mood in the air.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/13/16 at 4:45 pm


No "SJW" is terrible to make me vote Republican, that's for sure. I'm waiting for the right wing to bring in Eisenhower Pt 2. When they do that and quit with the whole anti-gay rights mess, I'll consider voting Republican.


They'll make gays like me do gay conversion therapy.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwot5PhWIUtC0OeU0KSs8e5-RR2EMYaOAtTGdKJsejO0Xdi2TISQ

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/13/16 at 5:51 pm


2016 feels like drinking a 2 rebulls ( the feeling of being hyped but knowing in about 45 min you are going to crash)

2006 had a similar feeling, YOu are in the culture but it won't last that long. If you were a decadeologist then you know
the feeling. You knew that crash "  The culture the zeightgiest"  wasnt going to last very longer.

I even made this thread months before Trump won, and you could tell things were already changing, the mood in the air.


The predictive powers of this new emerging science of decadeology... I submit!  :o

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: #Infinity on 11/13/16 at 6:07 pm


No "SJW" is terrible enough  to make me vote Republican, that's for sure. I'm waiting for the right wing to bring in Eisenhower Pt 2. When they do that and quit with the whole anti-gay rights mess, I'll consider voting Republican.


Eisenhower was pretty solidly anti-gay (though it was the 50s...) and only marginally backed civil rights; his Vice President ironically did more for minorities in the early 70s because of affirmative action and the expansion of social programs.

Gerald Ford was actually surprisingly pro-gay, having publicly endorsed equal rights for the LGBT community, as well as opposing the Briggs Initiative in 1978.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: bchris02 on 11/13/16 at 6:08 pm


That means you missed out on Ariana Grande's only decent single.


I'm really ready for the Ariana Grande era to be over.  This music has overstayed its welcome.


I'd say they're still going, 2016 is really to this decade what 1968 was to the 60s: the tumultuous culmination of several years of social protest, controversy, and transforming attitudes. Trump's election is like the upset of MLK and RFK's respective deaths in the way it galvanized a youth culture already full of unrest to even greater levels of backlash against the current establishment. My guess is the Trump presidency will be a lot like Nixon's, albeit more explicitly prejudiced despite a similar theme of restoring "law and order" to a country that had lost it.


I agree with this.  I think Trump's Presidency will be a lot more like Nixon's than Reagan's.  The Nixon years were reactionary and the government was out of touch with where the culture was.

I also disagree that "the 2010s" are over.  I think we are in for a split decade culturally like the 1970s.  Carter's late 70s were a different world from the Nixon/Ford early and mid 70s.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: bchris02 on 11/13/16 at 6:10 pm


Eisenhower was pretty solidly anti-gay (though it was the 50s...) and only marginally backed civil rights; his Vice President ironically did more for minorities in the early 70s because of affirmative action and the expansion of social programs.

Gerald Ford was actually surprisingly pro-gay, having publicly endorsed equal rights for the LGBT community, as well as opposing the Briggs Initiative in 1978.


Prior to Jerry Falwell (who I think is overlooked as being possibly one of the most important people in U.S. politics during the last 40 years) in the very late 1970s and early 1980s, your stance on cultural issues wasn't as much tied to your political affiliation.  Eisenhower was extremely anti-gay in the 50s, but most of the country was at that time.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: #Infinity on 11/13/16 at 6:24 pm

I also disagree that "the 2010s" are over.  I think we are in for a split decade culturally like the 1970s.  Carter's late 70s were a different world from the Nixon/Ford early and mid 70s.


I personally think the 70s are more divided between the Nixon years of 1970 to 1974 and the post-Watergate era of 1975 to 1979. 1975 had more or less the bulk of culture that dominated the late 70s, between disco being huge, shows like Three's Company, SNL, Fawlty Towers, and Welcome Back, Kotter dominating television, rock being represented by Gen-Jones groups like Queen, Aerosmith, Styx, and Bruce Springsteen, fashion having fully evolved into that bell-bottomed, wavy-hair aesthetic, and New Hollywood films being fully established.

In my opinion, 2016 is less different from the start of the 2010s than 1975 was from 1970. The 2010s have mostly been a very consistent period that has progressively built upon the same themes, whereas the 70s basically winded down from a post-60s whirlwind in 1970 to a peaceful, if rather cynical age by mid-decade.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Zelek3 on 11/13/16 at 6:32 pm


rock being represented by Gen-Jones groups like Queen, Aerosmith, Styx, and Bruce Springsteen

Bruce Springsteen was born in 1949. He isn't a Gen Jones; Gen Jones is usually considered to be 1954-1964 or so. :P

Gen Jones were the ones who led the punk rock revolution against older Boomer musicians, who were seen as "bloated AOR dinosaurs" by the mid-late 70s. Heck, Pete Townshend (b. 1945) was already singing about how middle-aged and irrelevant he was by the time he was 33!

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: the2001 on 11/13/16 at 7:59 pm


I personally think the 70s are more divided between the Nixon years of 1970 to 1974 and the post-Watergate era of 1975 to 1979. 1975 had more or less the bulk of culture that dominated the late 70s, between disco being huge, shows like Three's Company, SNL, Fawlty Towers, and Welcome Back, Kotter dominating television, rock being represented by Gen-Jones groups like Queen, Aerosmith, Styx, and Bruce Springsteen, fashion having fully evolved into that bell-bottomed, wavy-hair aesthetic, and New Hollywood films being fully established.

In my opinion, 2016 is less different from the start of the 2010s than 1975 was from 1970. The 2010s have mostly been a very consistent period that has progressively built upon the same themes, whereas the 70s basically winded down from a post-60s whirlwind in 1970 to a peaceful, if rather cynical age by mid-decade.


Good point, The 2010s feel very split,  I am going to say around mid Aug is when the split happened, or when Donald was elected.
There is def a huge split this decade. 2010- 2015 felt pretty consistent throughout with minor changes to the fashion industry and music
changing from dance pop, to more diverse

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: BornIn86 on 11/13/16 at 8:05 pm


Eisenhower was pretty solidly anti-gay (though it was the 50s...) and only marginally backed civil rights; his Vice President ironically did more for minorities in the early 70s because of affirmative action and the expansion of social programs.

Gerald Ford was actually surprisingly pro-gay, having publicly endorsed equal rights for the LGBT community, as well as opposing the Briggs Initiative in 1978.


All true. I just liked Eisenhower's mentality towards the government.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: BornIn86 on 11/13/16 at 8:11 pm


They'll make gays like me do gay conversion therapy.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwot5PhWIUtC0OeU0KSs8e5-RR2EMYaOAtTGdKJsejO0Xdi2TISQ


What makes the Republicans worst is that they think it's ok to do "conversion therapy" on minors and potentially scarring them for life.

If straight society really knew just how many repressed, closeted homosexuals/bisexuals are out there in hetero relationships, they would be paranoid of their significant others.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/13/16 at 8:20 pm


What makes the Republicans worst is that they think it's ok to do "conversion therapy" on minors and potentially scarring them for life.

If straight society really knew just how many repressed, closeted homosexuals/bisexuals are out there in hetero relationships, they would be paranoid of their significant others.


Yes, and how there are still people who aren't quite fond of racial minorities.   

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/13/16 at 8:23 pm


I'm really ready for the Ariana Grande era to be over.  This music has overstayed its welcome.

I agree with this.  I think Trump's Presidency will be a lot more like Nixon's than Reagan's.  The Nixon years were reactionary and the government was out of touch with where the culture was.

I also disagree that "the 2010s" are over.  I think we are in for a split decade culturally like the 1970s.  Carter's late 70s were a different world from the Nixon/Ford early and mid 70s.

I don't think we're in a split decade at all. Everything feels fairly similar since the decade started. And while changes may come for the rest of the decade, I predict it will still remain relatively consistent since the decade started. I think the 20s will be the huge decade that will change like the 1990s and 2000s were. 2010s will remain pretty boring.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/13/16 at 8:26 pm


Good point, The 2010s feel very split,  I am going to say around mid Aug is when the split happened, or when Donald was elected.
There is def a huge split this decade. 2010- 2015 felt pretty consistent throughout with minor changes to the fashion industry and music
changing from dance pop, to more diverse

Not at all. There's absolutely no changes since 2015. Maybe you folks in the U.S. feel change because you have a new president coming. But even then, pop culture is exactly the same from movies, music, TV, fashion, etc.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/13/16 at 8:27 pm


I don't think we're in a split decade at all. Everything feels fairly similar since the decade started. And while changes may come for the rest of the decade, I predict it will still remain relatively consistent since the decade started. I think the 20s will be the huge decade that will change like the 1990s and 2000s were. 2010s will remain pretty boring.


I think what you mean is a 'split in half', like the 1940's, or the 1970's. It is going to split maybe mid 2017, or 2018. But it's still a split. Or, who knows, maybe, it will stay the same, all the way up until 2020.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/13/16 at 8:28 pm


What makes the Republicans worst is that they think it's ok to do "conversion therapy" on minors and potentially scarring them for life.

If straight society really knew just how many repressed, closeted homosexuals/bisexuals are out there in hetero relationships, they would be paranoid of their significant others.


I'm so glad we banned and criminalized conversion therapy for minors last year here in Ontario. Scientific study after scientific study pegs its success rate at exactly 0%, unless driving youth to suicide can be considered a success.  :\'(

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/13/16 at 8:28 pm


I'm really ready for the Ariana Grande era to be over.  This music has overstayed its welcome.


I agree. Her music sucks so much.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/13/16 at 8:29 pm


I think what you mean is a 'split in half', like the 1940's, or the 1970's. It is going to split maybe mid 2017, or 2018. But it's still a split. Or, who knows, maybe, it will stay the same, all the way up until 2020.

That may happen. Nobody knows for sure. But so far there was no big splitting.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/13/16 at 8:33 pm

If no pop culture changes happen by April 2017, I'm gonna be really mad  >:(

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/13/16 at 8:35 pm


I'm so glad we banned and criminalized conversion therapy for minors last year here in Ontario. Scientific study after scientific study pegs its success rate at exactly 0%, unless driving youth to suicide can be considered a success.  :\'(


It's good, because now you can keep your subconscious criminal mind.

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Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: the2001 on 11/13/16 at 8:40 pm


Not at all. There's absolutely no changes since 2015. Maybe you folks in the U.S. feel change because you have a new president coming. But even then, pop culture is exactly the same from movies, music, TV, fashion, etc.


Pop Culture is not the same as it was since 2010. No clue why people keep saying this.

From 2010- 2013  (fashion still had hints of 80s in it mixed with hisperism, American Apparel was still a major player as well as Urban Outfitters.
From 2014-now fashion has mainly been 90s influenced  (Doc Martins, Flannel tied around waist, Tommy Hilfiger revival, Girl meets world 90s things)
Minimalist became a thing in mid 2014 and continues today, just look at Kanye Wests sets  (very minimal)

The rise of the jogger sneaker came to be as well.  (yeezys, Roshe runs)
From the release of The Yeezy boost Nike pretty much has taken a backseat in culture.


For Music  2010-2012  Dance pop like Lady Gaga and Kesha
(has traces from 2008)

2014-now  indie, Mixed dance pop is less prevalent

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/13/16 at 8:46 pm


Pop Culture is not the same as it was since 2010. No clue why people keep saying this.

From 2010- 2013  (fashion still had hints of 80s in it mixed with hisperism, American Apparel was still a major player as well as Urban Outfitters.
From 2014-now fashion has mainly been 90s influenced  (Doc Martins, Flannel tied around waist, Tommy Hilfiger revival, Girl meets world 90s things)
Minimalist became a thing in mid 2014 and continues today, just look at Kanye Wests sets  (very minimal)

The rise of the jogger sneaker came to be as well.  (yeezys, Roshe runs)
From the release of The Yeezy boost Nike pretty much has taken a backseat in culture.

For Music  2010-2012  Dance pop like Lady Gaga and Kesha
(has traces from 2008)

2014-now  indie, Mixed dance pop is less prevalent

I said "2015" not 2010 in my post... I said there is absolutely no difference in culture between 2015 and now, which is true.

As for 2010 and now, it's not exactly the same, but there are many similarities. It's not like 2010 and 2016 are completely different. A lot of stuff that was popular in 2010 is still popular today. The music isn't worlds apart and I honestly don't notice any difference in fashion.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/13/16 at 9:07 pm

2010 fashion is looking more and more 2000s rather than 2010s to me as time passes by. Skinny jeans were mandatory is the only thing going for it, but it's still has that Aeropostale giant hoodie thing going for it.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/13/16 at 9:21 pm


I agree. Her music sucks so much.


Dangerous Woman and Side to Side are tra$h but Into You is a lot of fun to dance to! At least to me  ;D

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: BornIn86 on 11/13/16 at 9:23 pm


I don't think we're in a split decade at all. Everything feels fairly similar since the decade started. And while changes may come for the rest of the decade, I predict it will still remain relatively consistent since the decade started. I think the 20s will be the huge decade that will change like the 1990s and 2000s were. 2010s will remain pretty boring.


I remember feeling like the 90s were boring and really cynical. It was as if we came to grips that the dreams of the 40s 50s and 60s were over and we were left with corporatism and consumerism to guide us. There was so much snark and sarcasm even when were living in a predominately prosperous era.

I"m super nostalgic for it now. lol.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: BornIn86 on 11/13/16 at 9:30 pm


Not at all. There's absolutely no changes since 2015. Maybe you folks in the U.S. feel change because you have a new president coming. But even then, pop culture is exactly the same from movies, music, TV, fashion, etc.


I know this is small but I feel like the DC Extended Universe and Dr. Strange herald a new phase in the whole superhero movie genre world. ESPECIALLY Dr. Strange. While definitely Marvelish, it felt pretty different from Marvel's previous films.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: TheKid99 on 11/14/16 at 5:58 am

I told myself as soon as Pokemon GO came out that the Late 2010s were upon us and an end of an era was near....

I could feel it at the end of my sophomore year...

And I met my best friend on July 28th, since then my life has begun a new era....

And this country as a whole has shifted, and now with the election upset of Donald Trump..... it really feels like a begining of a new era....

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/14/16 at 9:50 am


I told myself as soon as Pokemon GO came out that the Late 2010s were upon us and an end of an era was near....

I could feel it at the end of my sophomore year...

And I met my best friend on July 28th, since then my life has begun a new era....

And this country as a whole has shifted, and now with the election upset of Donald Trump..... it really feels like a begining of a new era....

Pokemon Go was nothing but a fad though. 2016 feels exactly like 2015, no changes for me. I do have a feeling there will be changes in 2017 though.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: #Infinity on 11/14/16 at 11:18 am


Bruce Springsteen was born in 1949. He isn't a Gen Jones; Gen Jones is usually considered to be 1954-1964 or so. :P

Gen Jones were the ones who led the punk rock revolution against older Boomer musicians, who were seen as "bloated AOR dinosaurs" by the mid-late 70s. Heck, Pete Townshend (b. 1945) was already singing about how middle-aged and irrelevant he was by the time he was 33!


I'm not referring to when the musicians were born, I'm referring to which age demographic they appealed to. Popular culture in general was predominantly targeted towards Generation Jones from about 1975 to 1982.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/14/16 at 2:17 pm


Dangerous Woman and Side to Side are tra$h but Into You is a lot of fun to dance to! At least to me  ;D


Dangerous Woman is good song, in my opinion.  :)

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Howard on 11/14/16 at 2:48 pm


They'll make gays like me do gay conversion therapy.

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;D

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Howard on 11/14/16 at 2:51 pm


If no pop culture changes happen by April 2017, I'm gonna be really mad  >:(


I'm pretty sure they'll happen.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: bchris02 on 11/14/16 at 4:38 pm


What makes the Republicans worst is that they think it's ok to do "conversion therapy" on minors and potentially scarring them for life.

If straight society really knew just how many repressed, closeted homosexuals/bisexuals are out there in hetero relationships, they would be paranoid of their significant others.


I've been through conversion therapy twice with zero success.  Religious leaders and politicians hold the line that it works but it doesn't.  They consider all the stories of failures to be people who just didn't try hard enough or didn't pray hard enough.

In many places in the U.S, homosexuality is still not widely accepted.  People who live in more liberal parts of the country where coming out of the closet is no big deal would experience severe culture shock in places like Oklahoma, rural Missouri, rural North Carolina, or other places in the Bible Belt.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: bchris02 on 11/14/16 at 4:56 pm


I don't think we're in a split decade at all. Everything feels fairly similar since the decade started. And while changes may come for the rest of the decade, I predict it will still remain relatively consistent since the decade started. I think the 20s will be the huge decade that will change like the 1990s and 2000s were. 2010s will remain pretty boring.


With the conservative backlash against the liberal culture of this decade now in full swing, I don't see how that will NOT impact pop culture over the next couple of years, sending it in a different direction than we've seen during the Obama years.


I remember feeling like the 90s were boring and really cynical. It was as if we came to grips that the dreams of the 40s 50s and 60s were over and we were left with corporatism and consumerism to guide us. There was so much snark and sarcasm even when were living in a predominately prosperous era.

I"m super nostalgic for it now. lol.


The '90s were unusually cynical considering how prosperous they were.  I think a lot of that was because of goth culture and the increasing violence in inner cities and public schools i.e. Columbine.  Also the Oklahoma City bombing contributed as well.  The '90s didn't feel like a safe, happy go lucky time compared to previous decades.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/14/16 at 5:01 pm


With the conservative backlash against the liberal culture of this decade now in full swing, I don't see how that will NOT impact pop culture over the next couple of years, sending it in a different direction than we've seen during the Obama years.


I don't think there is a conservative backlash. Conservatives and liberals always co-existed. The only reason why Trump won is because most liberals didn't vote at all because they don't like Clinton. And the usual right wingers who were always around voted for Trump. It was a very close result. If anything, things will get even more liberal because of Trump winning. Look at all the protests. That doesn't sound like conservative backlash, but the opposite. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if things didn't change a lot.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: BornIn86 on 11/14/16 at 10:58 pm


I don't think there is a conservative backlash. Conservatives and liberals always co-existed. The only reason why Trump won is because most liberals didn't vote at all because they don't like Clinton. And the usual right wingers who were always around voted for Trump. It was a very close result. If anything, things will get even more liberal because of Trump winning. Look at all the protests. That doesn't sound like conservative backlash, but the opposite. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if things didn't change a lot.


I'm with you. I think if Clinton had won and these so called "SJWs" gained any more real power, and the economy took a downtown, and Obamacare tanked...I could see there being a true conservative backlash. Fortunately or unfortunately, Trump won without the popular vote, and whereas people were able to get over Bush's non-popular vote win in 2000 relatively fast, Trump is deeply disliked even more than Hillary. He already has an incredibly formidable opposition against him within the masses and winning without the popular is not a good sign for the right. IF anything, his win has woke liberal leaning people to the rest of the republican controlled government. I don't know if the democrats will retake congress but I'll be surprised if the dems don't retake at least one chamber.

I disagree with one thing, I think the culture will turn into an anti-Trump culture if he proves himself to be like or worse than Bush II

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/14/16 at 11:09 pm



I disagree with one thing, I think the culture will turn into an anti-Trump culture if he proves himself to be like or worse than Bush II

Yeah I can definitely see parodies of the American president on the horizon. Kind of like the parodies that were made when Bush was president.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: #Infinity on 11/14/16 at 11:42 pm

I disagree with one thing, I think the culture will turn into an anti-Trump culture if he proves himself to be like or worse than Bush II


Donald Trump makes George W. Bush look like Abraham Lincoln. At least Bush '43, rash and clumsily spoken as he was, was a nice person with a certain sense of ethic and conduct. Trump, on the other hand, is like a drunken uncle who thinks far more of himself than of his country.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/15/16 at 1:33 am


I've been through conversion therapy twice with zero success.  Religious leaders and politicians hold the line that it works but it doesn't.  They consider all the stories of failures to be people who just didn't try hard enough or didn't pray hard enough.

In many places in the U.S, homosexuality is still not widely accepted.  People who live in more liberal parts of the country where coming out of the closet is no big deal would experience severe culture shock in places like Oklahoma, rural Missouri, rural North Carolina, or other places in the Bible Belt.


I would probably go to 'pray the gay away' camps just to meet attractive guys. LMAO!

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/15/16 at 1:42 am

I probably was Republican in my previous life, and am now just continuing my habit from said past life.  ;D

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: BornIn86 on 11/15/16 at 11:06 am


I would probably go to 'pray the gay away' camps just to meet attractive guys. LMAO!


I don't know about you but the sheer ridiculousness of this would make me suicidal.

wD4sWQG2DnQ

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: the2001 on 11/15/16 at 11:18 am

2016 is a split year

PERIOD

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/15/16 at 11:21 am


2016 is a split year

PERIOD

But nothing changed yet except for Trump winning.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 11/15/16 at 3:20 pm


But nothing changed yet except for Trump winning.

Yup I agree. 2016 still feels mid 10s, despite Trump winning.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Mat1991 on 11/19/16 at 3:31 pm


I'm with you. I think if Clinton had won and these so called "SJWs" gained any more real power, and the economy took a downtown, and Obamacare tanked...I could see there being a true conservative backlash. Fortunately or unfortunately, Trump won without the popular vote, and whereas people were able to get over Bush's non-popular vote win in 2000 relatively fast, Trump is deeply disliked even more than Hillary. He already has an incredibly formidable opposition against him within the masses and winning without the popular is not a good sign for the right. IF anything, his win has woke liberal leaning people to the rest of the republican controlled government. I don't know if the democrats will retake congress but I'll be surprised if the dems don't retake at least one chamber.

I disagree with one thing, I think the culture will turn into an anti-Trump culture if he proves himself to be like or worse than Bush II


Too bad liberals are notoriously bad at turning out to vote.  :(

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/19/16 at 3:57 pm


Too bad liberals are notoriously bad at turning out to vote.  :(


The house is gerrymandered and there are more Democratic Senate seats up for re-election so resources will be spread thin. 2018 is anything but guaranteed, but Tr*mp's record low approval ratings will be an asset.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/19/16 at 4:58 pm

2016 was a very 'critical' year for me.  ;)

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: KatanaChick on 11/19/16 at 8:19 pm


The house is gerrymandered and there are more Democratic Senate seats up for re-election so resources will be spread thin. 2018 is anything but guaranteed, but Tr*mp's record low approval ratings will be an asset.

Tr*mp? You can't even say the name Trump?  ;D


Yup I agree. 2016 still feels mid 10s, despite Trump winning.

2017 hasn't happened yet.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/19/16 at 10:06 pm


Tr*mp? You can't even say the name Trump?  ;D
2017 hasn't happened yet.

I hope the late 10s culture is much better than the mid 10s (2014-2016). Hopefully less shootings and violence.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/19/16 at 10:31 pm


I hope the late 10s culture is much better than the mid 10s (2014-2016). Hopefully less shootings and violence.


I noticed that big shootings have died down a little bit the past six months.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/19/16 at 10:58 pm


I noticed that big shootings have died down a little bit the past six months.

Yeah same here. I hope it remains like that.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: tv on 11/20/16 at 1:25 am


Donald Trump makes George W. Bush look like Abraham Lincoln. At least Bush '43, rash and clumsily spoken as he was, was a nice person with a certain sense of ethic and conduct. Trump, on the other hand, is like a drunken uncle who thinks far more of himself than of his country.
Well I wouldn't go that far Trump makes Bush W. look as capable as his fathers lone Presidential Term(Bush H.W.) I haven't liked a President since Bill Clinton.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: tv on 11/20/16 at 1:31 am


I don't think there is a conservative backlash. Conservatives and liberals always co-existed. The only reason why Trump won is because most liberals didn't vote at all because they don't like Clinton. And the usual right wingers who were always around voted for Trump. It was a very close result. If anything, things will get even more liberal because of Trump winning. Look at all the protests. That doesn't sound like conservative backlash, but the opposite. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if things didn't change a lot.
Well true turnout in Milwaukee cost Clinton Wisconsin and turnout in Detroit cost her Michigan. I don't think she lost Pennsylvania because of turnout she lost because she lost votes to Trump in the Northeastern Pennsylvania Rural Counties like Luzerne County and she lost Erie County in the Northwest Part of the State which Obama won in 2012.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: tv on 11/20/16 at 1:33 am


Too bad liberals are notoriously bad at turning out to vote.  :(
The Presidents Party always loses Congressional Seats in mid-term elections except for 1998(Bill Clinton) and 2002(Bush W.)

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/20/16 at 12:03 pm


Tr*mp? You can't even say the name Trump?  ;D


For the same reason I don't draw swastikas. Lol jk.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: BornIn86 on 11/20/16 at 2:10 pm


Too bad liberals are notoriously bad at turning out to vote.  :(


We really, really are. I think 2018 will be different. Many of us might have felt Bush was a big dope but many of us didn't believe he was a bad person per se. A lot of people, if not most, feel differently about Trump. I mean, the guy is rage tweeting comedians and Broadway performers as we speak!

I have a lot of hope in the Democratic Party. I think they'll come back with a more pragmatic progressive agenda since the Clinton brand of leftism lost out. Apparently, Warren and Sanders are leading away. I'm actually kind of excited. There only seems to be room for growth from here.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: BornIn86 on 11/20/16 at 2:15 pm


Yup I agree. 2016 still feels mid 10s, despite Trump winning.


Something we haven't thought: what if the 2010s mostly becomes known for the Trump Era? Kind of like how when a lot of people think of the 90s they think of the late 90s.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 11/20/16 at 2:41 pm


Something we haven't thought: what if the 2010s mostly becomes known for the Trump Era? Kind of like how when a lot of people think of the 90s they think of the late 90s.


Most of the people who think that the 90s are like the late 90s are younger Millennials. They didn't really experience the early-mid 90s, so they just thought their childhood memories from the late 90s/early 2000s were like the 90s. For the 2010s, I doubt that Donald Trump would be recognized as a 2010s president. Most people would think the Obama era is the true 2010s, while the Trump era would most likely be the late 2010s/early 2020s. Depending if he gets reelected in 2020.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Howard on 11/20/16 at 2:44 pm


I hope the late 10s culture is much better than the mid 10s (2014-2016). Hopefully less shootings and violence.



I hope so too Slim. :(

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/20/16 at 4:42 pm


Most of the people who think that the 90s are like the late 90s are younger Millennials. They didn't really experience the early-mid 90s, so they just thought their childhood memories from the late 90s/early 2000s were like the 90s. For the 2010s, I doubt that Donald Trump would be recognized as a 2010s president. Most people would think the Obama era is the true 2010s, while the Trump era would most likely be the late 2010s/early 2020s. Depending if he gets reelected in 2020.

I agree. The late 90s does not define the 90s and only kids think this and they are wrong. I also don't think Trump will define the 10s. Ever since Obama got elected the 10s decade has been established.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 11/20/16 at 5:22 pm


I agree. The late 90s does not define the 90s and only kids think this and they are wrong. I also don't think Trump will define the 10s. Ever since Obama got elected the 10s decade has been established.


It started so politically, but most of George W. Bush's policies were still active until 2011/12. The only thing that's still in place is the Patriot Act.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/20/16 at 9:32 pm


Well I wouldn't go that far Trump makes Bush W. look as capable as his fathers lone Presidential Term(Bush H.W.) I haven't liked a President since Bill Clinton.


Including or excluding Bill Clinton?

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: bchris02 on 11/21/16 at 11:10 am


Most of the people who think that the 90s are like the late 90s are younger Millennials. They didn't really experience the early-mid 90s, so they just thought their childhood memories from the late 90s/early 2000s were like the 90s. For the 2010s, I doubt that Donald Trump would be recognized as a 2010s president. Most people would think the Obama era is the true 2010s, while the Trump era would most likely be the late 2010s/early 2020s. Depending if he gets reelected in 2020.


If Trump is a one-term President as I believe he will be, he will be associated with the '10s.  The Obama years will be viewed as the SJW years and the Trump years will be viewed as the SJW backlash.

Carter is almost synonymous with '70s politics and he was only President during the latter part of the decade.  I doubt Trump will be re-elected in 2020, unless he just blows everyone's expectations away (in a good way). 

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 11/21/16 at 6:27 pm


If Trump is a one-term President as I believe he will be, he will be associated with the '10s. 


I doubt that he'll be associated with the 2010s greatly. Compared to Obama, who has positively established the 2010s in a political standpoint, he doesn't really stand a chance with just 4 years. It's like how George H.W. Bush only represented the early 90s, despite holding office in January 1989-January 1993. People usually see Bill Clinton as the 90s president because of that, since he did serve during the majority of the decade.

The Obama years will be viewed as the SJW years and the Trump years will be viewed as the SJW backlash.

Obama's second term was like that. However, his first term seemed different compared to what people think of now. I don't about Trump, but he'll possibly have the Republicans rise up from their political devastation after eight years.


Carter is almost synonymous with '70s politics and he was only President during the latter part of the decade.  I doubt Trump will be re-elected in 2020, unless he just blows everyone's expectations away (in a good way).


He'll might. I don't know for sure, but considering how people take Trump supporters more seriously now, it might be a gold prediction.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/21/16 at 6:37 pm


The Obama years will be viewed as the SJW years and the Trump years will be viewed as the SJW backlash.


There has been an SJW backlash ever since the word "SJW" came into existence.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: tv on 11/23/16 at 1:02 pm


Including or excluding Bill Clinton?
I liked Bill Clinton yes. I think Bush W. was a failure. Obama was bad at Presidential leadership especially on ISIS. Obama also went nuts on regulating coal industry per executive order because of the $$$ donations dollars that the Dem Party gets from Green Energy Industries or his own political idealogy on climate change. The only thing I give Obama credit for is leaving the economy in a lot better shape than he found it.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Baltimoreian on 11/23/16 at 1:23 pm


I liked Bill Clinton yes. I think Bush W. was a failure. Obama was bad at Presidential leadership especially on ISIS. Obama also went nuts on regulating coal industry per executive order because of the $$$ donations dollars that the Dem Party gets from Green Energy Industries or his own political idealogy on climate change. The only thing I give Obama credit for is leaving the economy in a lot better shape than he found it.


Who was worse in your opinion, George W. Bush or Obama?

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/23/16 at 2:21 pm

2015 was the end of the Harper era here in Canada. That year felt like a transition in many ways in this country. I think we've already seen the political and economic transition into the late 10s (maybe movies too with the Star Wars sequels and technology to an extent with VR), but have yet to see a transition with pop culture like music for example (maybe in 2017).

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: tv on 11/24/16 at 7:02 pm


Who was worse in your opinion, George W. Bush or Obama?
Its kind of a toss-up since Obama left his presidency with the economy in a lot better than he got it off of the Bush W. Presidency but ISIS is still out there and not defeated as a whole yet. I did view Bush W. more favorably though since I felt he was more presidential than Obama. Still, after 8 years of Bush W. I was ready for him to leave the White House mainly have to do with the economy in 2008 and "The Iraq War."

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/24/16 at 8:13 pm


2015 was the end of the Harper era here in Canada. That year felt like a transition in many ways in this country. I think we've already seen the political and economic transition into the late 10s (maybe movies too with the Star Wars sequels and technology to an extent with VR), but have yet to see a transition with pop culture like music for example (maybe in 2017).


The Trudeau era is yet to go into effect though... April 20, 2017!

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/24/16 at 8:39 pm


The Trudeau era is yet to go into effect though... April 20, 2017!

That's true. I feel like when weed is legalized things will feel drastically different.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/25/16 at 3:51 pm


That's true. I feel like when weed is legalized things will feel drastically different.


Not to mention CETA. Cheap milk and French wine.  ;D

These Trudeau-era drugs are high quality  ;D

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/25/16 at 3:53 pm


The Trudeau era is yet to go into effect though... April 20, 2017!


April 20 is Hitler's birthday. Not that I have it memorized, or anything!  :)

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/25/16 at 3:57 pm


April 20 is Hitler's birthday. Not that I have it memorized, or anything!  :)


I have  :-X :-X :-X :-X

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/25/16 at 3:59 pm


I have  :-X :-X :-X :-X


I don't have that type of knowledge. I don't have that type of intellectual prowess.

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Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Howard on 11/25/16 at 4:08 pm


April 20 is Hitler's birthday. Not that I have it memorized, or anything!  :)



Will it be Hitler Day?

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/25/16 at 4:32 pm



Will it be Hitler Day?


It's not a good idea.  ;)

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 2001 on 11/25/16 at 5:12 pm



Will it be Hitler Day?


Hitler sounds like the kind of guy who hates birthdays. So maybe, yes.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Slim95 on 11/25/16 at 8:25 pm


April 20 is Hitler's birthday. Not that I have it memorized, or anything!  :)

Well it will be known as the day weed is legalized pretty soon.

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: 80sfan on 11/25/16 at 9:36 pm


Well it will be known as the day weed is legalized pretty soon.


Yes.  ;D  ;D

And also the day the Columbine shooting happened in 1999.  :(  :\'(

Subject: Re: 2016 feels like the end of an era

Written By: Howard on 11/26/16 at 7:18 am


It's not a good idea.  ;)


Why not?

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