It's too close. :sweating:.  :P  :P

Bruh. Nintendo is merde with what they have now. The Switch wouldn't change anything.


Bye, it has Zeldieu that won't be détruite by motion controls. This is unlike anything we have ever seen before in at least a decade.

Numerically they have, culturally not at all.

Here in America the late 2010s have most certainly started, or are about to.

Maybe not in your Liberal Winter Wonderland, since Current Year/Weed Man is still president.

Here in America the late 2010s have most certainly started, or are about to.

Maybe not in your Liberal Winter Wonderland, since Current Year/Weed Man is still president.

Haha Yeah here not much has changed. But so far there are no changes in fashion or music though. Only politically can you say it is the late 10s in the U.S. Unless you have noticed other changes besides politics?

Bye, it has Zeldieu that won't be détruite by motion controls. This is unlike anything we have ever seen before in at least a decade.


So?

All the Switch has is a mascot that is sort of attractive (yes, as a furry I cannot deny that).

All I can think of about these Trump comments (from what I saw on the news as I write this, he's gonna be inaugurated pretty soon) is that there will be a 2000s comeback in the 2020s. Let's face it, the 2000s and the 1980s were more conservative than the decades they succeeded and preceded in terms of their culture to some extent, and the culture of the 80s and 2000s seemed more edgier than the more light-hearted culture of the 70s and 90s. I'm not sure, but I've been looking at some progressive rock (not really my taste) and I heard that that genre was big in the 70s, and compared to other genres of rock music, it doesn't have that sense of heaviness in it, at least from what I got. The early 2000s nostalgia is pretty much starting this off.

I've actually speculated about this on PerC:

http://personalitycafe.com/trends-forum/971354-how-trumps-election-will-affect-music-2.html#post33126874

Haha Yeah here not much has changed. But so far there are no changes in fashion or music though. Only politically can you say it is the late 10s in the U.S. Unless you have noticed other changes besides politics?


Ariana Grande is a Final Fantasy character. Chris on suicide watch.

http://static5.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1179/11799911/3183338-ariana2.jpg

Haha Yeah here not much has changed. But so far there are no changes in fashion or music though. Only politically can you say it is the late 10s in the U.S. Unless you have noticed other changes besides politics?

I feel like if 2010s fashion was going to be this conservative in this aspect they should have just voted in Romney already.

"Tired of the constant sexualisation the media and the fashion industry push towards the American citizen? Vote Romney, and he will stamp out the liberals who are behind this immorality!". Seriously, skinny jean shorts are something only a prude would love, and those things look uncomfortable to wear.

I feel like if 2010s fashion was going to be this conservative in this aspect they should have just voted in Romney already.

"Tired of the constant sexualisation the media and the fashion industry push towards the American citizen? Vote Romney, and he will stamp out the liberals who are behind this immorality!". Seriously, skinny jean shorts are something only a prude would love, and those things look uncomfortable to wear.


You're the only one I know who accuses 2010s fashion of being too manly ;D

10 years ago, baggy jorts were still a thing so I'd count my lucky stars LOL.

You're the only one I know who accuses 2010s fashion of being too manly ;D

10 years ago, baggy jorts were still a thing so I'd count my lucky stars LOL.

The skinny jeans are an obvious sign that 2010s fashion isn't manly, but facial hair wasn't a fashion statement in the 2000s afaik.

Still, baggy shorts feel way more comfortable in the summer heat than skinny jean shorts that only keep your shins cool, because at least some air can go up to your thighs.

I actually bought some booty shorts to try and buck the trend. Until the 90s, guys wore those sort of shorts as well as girls. Michael Jordan probably killed off booty shorts on guys.

Here in America the late 2010s have most certainly started, or are about to.

Maybe not in your Liberal Winter Wonderland, since Current Year/Weed Man is still president.


Our latest political scandal was him replying in French to an English question. I have never seen our country so divided before. The late 2010s are starting here too, it is spilling over.

Our latest political scandal was him replying in French to an English question. I have never seen our country so divided before. The late 2010s are starting here too, it is spilling over.

Ha I know a civil war is definitely on the horizon here. xD

Ha I know a civil war is definitely on the horizon here. xD


A question is, over what?  The right was not this angry until the 2015 gay marriage decision.  I can't believe two people who love each other wanting to be married has made the right this angry, that many would go to war over it.

A question is, over what?  The right was not this angry until the 2015 gay marriage decision.  I can't believe two people who love each other wanting to be married has made the right this angry, that many would go to war over it.

I'm kidding about Canada going into war over language. But you guys down in the south have a large amount of people who don't like gay people, it's very scary.

It really does feel like an era is ending and for that, I am sad.  The last eight years have had their ups and downs in my personal life...but the first four, 2009-2012, were the best years of my life and I don't know if any time in my future will ever match it.  I do have a feeling I will have a strong nostalgia for the Obama era throughout my life.

It really does feel like an era is ending and for that, I am sad.  The last eight years have had their ups and downs in my personal life...but the first four, 2009-2012, were the best years of my life and I don't know if any time in my future will ever match it.  I do have a feeling I will have a strong nostalgia for the Obama era throughout my life.


Compared to where we may be heading a lot of people might not realizing how good we had it during this time. Trump is a loose cannon and he's only going to make the situation worse. I could respect almost any other conservative but this clown is just a freaking joke, and he's going to put his hand on the Bible and recite the oath of office in less than 12 hours. Given that almost everything he says is a lie how is anybody supposed to take him seriously when he swears to uphold the constitution?

Compared to where we may be heading a lot of people might not realizing how good we had it during this time. Trump is a loose cannon and he's only going to make the situation worse. I could respect almost any other conservative but this clown is just a freaking joke, and he's going to put his hand on the Bible and recite the oath of office in less than 12 hours. Given that almost everything he says is a lie how is anybody supposed to take him seriously when he swears to uphold the constitution?


I agree.  In 2-3 years, I guarantee that some of Obama's biggest criticizers will be missing the Obama era.  They will look back and think that maybe he wasn't so bad.  A similar thing happened with Clinton in the '00s, though I think that Obama's overall legacy will be much larger and stronger than Bill Clinton's.

I agree.  In 2-3 years, I guarantee that some of Obama's biggest criticizers will be missing the Obama era.  They will look back and think that maybe he wasn't so bad.  A similar thing happened with Clinton in the '00s, though I think that Obama's overall legacy will be much larger and stronger than Bill Clinton's.


As I've said before I think the left can be too PC at times...but looking at it realistically I realize it's just such small potatoes compared to handing the power of the Presidency to someone like Trump. The fact that he hasn't toned it down at all during the transition (still acting like a fool on twitter along with his cabinet appointments) re-enforces it even more the danger this guy poses to the republic. He seems to be appointing people that want to get rid of the departments they're supposed to head. You got a climate change denying oil lobby suck up (Pruitt) for EPA, the lady who wants to get rid of public schools for education (DeVos), Perry who said he'd get rid of the Energy Department for you guessed it Secretary of Energy, the confederate sympathizer (Sessions) for Attorney General, a freaking fast food CEO (Puzder) for Secretary of Labor. The whole thing is insane really.

I agree.  In 2-3 years, I guarantee that some of Obama's biggest criticizers will be missing the Obama era.  They will look back and think that maybe he wasn't so bad.  A similar thing happened with Clinton in the '00s, though I think that Obama's overall legacy will be much larger and stronger than Bill Clinton's.

Even I know for a fact bill Clinton had a larger legacy than Obama. He was president during the easiest time in modern times to be president. The economy has 5 straight years of 3.5%+ growth. The Internet. Everything. It all happened. All of Obama's legacy will be torn up to shreds by trump.

Join me in counting down to the "official" start of the late 2010s.

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=263&iso=20170120T12&msg=A%20New%20President%20is%20Inaugurated


less than 4 hours to go.

Also, January is already almost 2/3 done. This month has gone by fast.


I know, Wow!  :o

As I've said before I think the left can be too PC at times...but looking at it realistically I realize it's just such small potatoes compared to handing the power of the Presidency to someone like Trump. The fact that he hasn't toned it down at all during the transition (still acting like a fool on twitter along with his cabinet appointments) re-enforces it even more the danger this guy poses to the republic. He seems to be appointing people that want to get rid of the departments they're supposed to head. You got a climate change denying oil lobby suck up (Pruitt) for EPA, the lady who wants to get rid of public schools for education (DeVos), Perry who said he'd get rid of the Energy Department for you guessed it Secretary of Energy, the confederate sympathizer (Sessions) for Attorney General, a freaking fast food CEO (Puzder) for Secretary of Labor. The whole thing is insane really.

Yeah, the Republicans would support this, as they believe that because of the profit motive, corporations will have a higher standard of doing things (sometimes this is the case, sometimes this isn't), and because of fundamentalist Christianity running rampant in that country, climate change is seen as yet another "communist plot" to stifle the free market.

And yes, Trump's background is in business, so it would kind of make sense for him to employ people in the same field; however, I'm not sure about having Pence as his VP and a confederate sympathiser as the Secretary of Energy.

Has anyone heard about the Women's March on washington happening tomorrow? It's going to be huge!


I agree.  In 2-3 years, I guarantee that some of Obama's biggest criticizers will be missing the Obama era. They will look back and think that maybe he wasn't so bad.  A similar thing happened with Clinton in the '00s, though I think that Obama's overall legacy will be much larger and stronger than Bill Clinton's.
Oh yeah, they will. I'll give it a year for them to realize that Trump was a mistake and that there were other people who were better suited for the oval office.

Yeah, the Republicans would support this, as they believe that because of the profit motive, corporations will have a higher standard of doing things (sometimes this is the case, sometimes this isn't), and because of fundamentalist Christianity running rampant in that country, climate change is seen as yet another "communist plot" to stifle the free market.

And yes, Trump's background is in business, so it would kind of make sense for him to employ people in the same field; however, I'm not sure about having Pence as his VP and a confederate sympathiser as the Secretary of Energy.


Americans don't really think about communism that much, aside from the people who were uneducated for a long time. Some of them think the Chinese made global warming though.

Americans don't really think about communism that much, aside from the people who were uneducated for a long time. Some of them think the Chinese made global warming though.

What does communism have to do with being educated...? ??? No offense but many strong "democratic" Americans are not educated at all...

What does communism have to do with being educated...? ??? No offense but many strong "democratic" Americans are not educated at all...


Which is what I said before, since Riven thinks communism is still a threat to Americans. Although, we never really had a threat related to communism ever since the Soviet Union collapsed.

Which is what I said before, since Riven thinks communism is still a threat to Americans. Although, we never really had a threat related to communism ever since the Soviet Union collapsed.

Oh I see what you mean. Yeah those people who are afraid of communism in the U.S. are usually dumb republicans.

Has anyone heard about the Women's March on washington happening tomorrow? It's going to be huge!
Oh yeah, they will. I'll give it a year for them to realize that Trump was a mistake and that there were other people who were better suited for the oval office.


Are you going to give him a chance?

Are you going to give him a chance?
I am, but I don't trust him.

I am, but I don't trust him.


Did you watch his speech? ???

Did you watch his speech? ???

I did not like his speech at all.

Did you watch his speech? ???
Nah, but I'll still give him a chance.

I did not like his speech at all.


I just read a transcript. Absolute drivel of a deranged man. The mid-2010s nostalgia is settling in.

I just read a transcript. Absolute drivel of a deranged man. The mid-2010s nostalgia is settling in.


I am ultra-nostalgic for the early 2010s right now.  With Obama gone and Trump in, it feels like the present has little ties to that era, even though it wasn't really that long ago.

The sad thing is, even if Trump gets impeached and removed from office, a Mike Pence presidency would make me shudder even more, as not only is he more likely to directly take action to undo LGBT rights, he's much more likely to cooperate with the establishment Republicans who dominate Washington politics.

The best I can hope for is four years of disjunction, similar to the presidency of John Quincy Adams, except with an unscrupulous Chief Executive left immobilized rather than one with a truly positive agenda.

The sad thing is, even if Trump gets impeached and removed from office, a Mike Pence presidency would make me shudder even more, as not only is he more likely to directly take action to undo LGBT rights, he's much more likely to cooperate with the establishment Republicans who dominate Washington politics.

The best I can hope for is four years of disjunction, similar to the presidency of John Quincy Adams, except with an unscrupulous Chief Executive left immobilized rather than one with a truly positive agenda.


I'm undecided.  While I think Pence would be much worse for LGBT rights than Trump, I do think he's more "competent" so to speak.  I think he could better execute the duties of POTUS than the man we just inaugurated today.

My prediction is we will have between 1-2 years of Trump before he is impeached.  Pence will finish out Trump's term and then a Democrat will be elected in a major landslide carrying most states outside the Bible Belt and Indiana in 2020.

I am ultra-nostalgic for the early 2010s right now.  With Obama gone and Trump in, it feels like the present has little ties to that era, even though it wasn't really that long ago.


I remember feeling the early 2010s were politically unstable, ho boy. The problems of then feel so "normal" compared to the problems of today.

The sad thing is, even if Trump gets impeached and removed from office, a Mike Pence presidency would make me shudder even more, as not only is he more likely to directly take action to undo LGBT rights, he's much more likely to cooperate with the establishment Republicans who dominate Washington politics.

The best I can hope for is four years of disjunction, similar to the presidency of John Quincy Adams, except with an unscrupulous Chief Executive left immobilized rather than one with a truly positive agenda.

Mike Pence is even worse than Trump.

I just hope Trump doesn't screw over my country.  :(

I remember feeling the early 2010s were politically unstable, ho boy. The problems of then feel so "normal" compared to the problems of today.


It seemed like such a lighthearted, carefree time compared to today.  Despite the state of the economy at the time, I was more optimistic about the immediate future of America in 2010 than I am today.

Mike Pence is even worse than Trump.


Mike Pence is better for global stability and less racist. I guess it depends on what's important to you.

Mike Pence is better for global stability and less racist. I guess it depends on what's important to you.


This is what I can starting to consider. Pence for a few years won't be good for LGBT rights, but it would be impossible for him to overturn Obergefell in that amount of time. Remember Obergefell was passed even with Scalia on the bench.

I don't know a lot about Pence outside his LGBT stances but from what I've seen, he seems more like a level-headed person that is more capable and fit to be POTUS than Donald Trump. I could be wrong though.

It seemed like such a lighthearted, carefree time compared to today.  Despite the state of the economy at the time, I was more optimistic about the immediate future of America in 2010 than I am today.


I agree. The early 2010s were by no means quiet and stable, but there was still that hope, that optimism, that tomorrow will be better than today. That's not what can be said about today. Any look at the evidence suggests things will get worse in the near future on many fronts, and that's just depressing. I can only hope that people get stronger through the adversity, bit that's the fruit to enjoy only 4/8 years from now :(

Mike Pence is better for global stability and less racist. I guess it depends on what's important to you.

I do not believe he is less racist. He is more socially conservative than Trump on all levels. Only difference is he is more experienced than Trump.

I agree. The early 2010s were by no means quiet and stable, but there was still that hope, that optimism, that tomorrow will be better than today. That's not what can be said about today. Any look at the evidence suggests things will get worse in the near future on many fronts, and that's just depressing. I can only hope that people get stronger through the adversity, bit that's the fruit to enjoy only 4/8 years from now :(

I still hate the early 2010s (except 2013). And despite Trump being the new president, I am far more hopeful for my future at least now than I was in the early 10s. The late 10s will be an awesome, fun era.  :)

This is what I can starting to consider. Pence for a few years won't be good for LGBT rights, but it would be impossible for him to overturn Obergefell in that amount of time. Remember Obergefell was passed even with Scalia on the bench.

I don't know a lot about Pence outside his LGBT stances but from what I've seen, he seems more like a level-headed person that is more capable and fit to be POTUS than Donald Trump. I could be wrong though.


Good point. I think though, sometimes, it's not just what laws a politician will pass, but also the type of rhetoric they have. Trump's rhetoric suggest he's mostly ambivalent towards LGBT issues. Mike Pence's rhetoric is much more negative, especially when it comes to transgender people. That makes worse the violence and apprehension people face in their day to day lives.

I do not believe he is less racist. He is more socially conservative than Trump on all levels. Only difference is he is more experienced than Trump.


Trump is straight up alt-right (fascist). Pence is at worse a vanilla racist. That's how I see it. ;D

Another point is Pence is less authoritarian. He believes in freedom of the press and free speech.

I still hate the early 2010s (except 2013). And despite Trump being the new president, I am far more hopeful for my future at least now than I was in the early 10s. The late 10s will be an awesome, fun era.  :)


I'm talking more about the state of the world rather than my personal life or pop culture. The late 2010s will definitely be worse. Personal life wise I have a lot of reason to be optimistic, too. :D

The speech was alright, nothing special.

The late 2010's for me will be awesome, if only I can make it to August, when my mental health will be 100% great!

2018 IS MINE!!!!! 2018 IS MINE!!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!

I'm talking more about the state of the world rather than my personal life or pop culture. The late 2010s will definitely be worse. Personal life wise I have a lot of reason to be optimistic, too. :D

The state of the world will be fine. There is no reason to believe it won't. In fact, things may even improve in the late 10s a lot. Already there is noticeably less mass shootings and violence. State of the world, personal life, and pop culture will probably all improve in the late 10s. It will be a great era.

The US presidency now does not take very well to dissent:

http://i.imgur.com/WBZf0XL.png

The state of the world will be fine. There is no reason to believe it won't. In fact, things may even improve in the late 10s a lot. Already there is noticeably less mass shootings and violence. State of the world, personal life, and pop culture will probably all improve in the late 10s. It will be a great era.


Did you not just hear that speech? :o

Today instead of congratulating the American people, the French president declared the TTIP (Europe-US free trade agreement) dead, and warned about the perils of protectionism. Yesterday at Davos, China projected itself as the voice of reason on climate change and free trade, while the US sat in the corner, ignored. In Trump's speech itself he denigrated NATO and said he has no obligation to defend other countries.

There's been a huge shakeup in global relations. Europe and America's interests no longer align.

Mass shootings and violence were already on the decline by the way. Actually, after seeing the depravity, barbarism and the war crimes that took place in Aleppo, I can imagine things getting much worse over there. Turkey and Eastern European countries are also turning a lot more authoritarian and unstable. Brexit is also going to f*ck one particular country over. China's housing bubble is about to pop too, which is going to be really bad. North Korea and China are finally realigned as they found a common enemy in the Trump administration. China didn't even bother commenting on yesterday's missile launch preparations in NK. Damn, I could go on forever.

Did you not just hear that speech? :o

Today instead of congratulating the American people, the French president declared the TTIP (Europe-US free trade agreement) dead, and warned about the perils of protectionism. Yesterday at Davos, China projected itself as the voice of reason on climate change and free trade, while the US sat in the corner, ignored. In Trump's speech itself he denigrated NATO and said he has no obligation to defend other countries.

There's been a huge shakeup in global relations. Europe and America's interests no longer align.

Mass shootings and violence were already on the decline by the way. Actually, after seeing the depravity, barbarism and the war crimes that took place in Aleppo, I can imagine things getting much worse over there. Turkey and Eastern European countries are also turning a lot more authoritarian and unstable. Brexit is also going to f*ck one particular country over. China's housing bubble is about to pop too, which is going to be really bad. North Korea and China are finally realigned as they found a common enemy in the Trump administration. China didn't even bother commenting on yesterday's missile launch preparations in NK. Damn, I could go on forever.

Yeah I heard the speech and it sucked. But I am honestly tired of hearing about Donald Trump and unless/until he does something stupid, there is no reason to fear anything. As for other parts of the world, these things may also settle down. I think the mid 10s will be seen as the most turbulent period, the late 10s will improve a lot then the 20s will be great as well.

Did you not just hear that speech? :o

Today instead of congratulating the American people, the French president declared the TTIP (Europe-US free trade agreement) dead, and warned about the perils of protectionism. Yesterday at Davos, China projected itself as the voice of reason on climate change and free trade, while the US sat in the corner, ignored. In Trump's speech itself he denigrated NATO and said he has no obligation to defend other countries.

There's been a huge shakeup in global relations. Europe and America's interests no longer align.

Mass shootings and violence were already on the decline by the way. Actually, after seeing the depravity, barbarism and the war crimes that took place in Aleppo, I can imagine things getting much worse over there. Turkey and Eastern European countries are also turning a lot more authoritarian and unstable. Brexit is also going to f*ck one particular country over. China's housing bubble is about to pop too, which is going to be really bad. North Korea and China are finally realigned as they found a common enemy in the Trump administration. China didn't even bother commenting on yesterday's missile launch preparations in NK. Damn, I could go on forever.


Welcome to the fascist future.

No health care for ANYONE!  ;D Just kidding!

No health care for ANYONE!  ;D Just kidding!

Everything's gonna be privatised now in Trump's America. At this point, I don't care, because either they could be right or it could be just political suicide.

Everything's gonna be privatised now in Trump's America. At this point, I don't care, because either they could be right or it could be just political suicide.


He, and the Republicans, are already getting rid of Obamacare.

I hope the late 10's will feel like the 60's again. It's going to be exciting! 8)

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/174/430139338_cb5894b19a_o.jpg
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/24100000/The-60-s-Photos-the-60s-24193000-500-321.jpg

Mike Pence is even worse than Trump.

I just hope Trump doesn't screw over my country.  :(


He will "Make America Great".

The state of the world will be fine. There is no reason to believe it won't. In fact, things may even improve in the late 10s a lot. Already there is noticeably less mass shootings and violence. State of the world, personal life, and pop culture will probably all improve in the late 10s. It will be a great era.


I sure hope so.

I hope the late 10's will feel like the 60's again. It's going to be exciting! 8)

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/174/430139338_cb5894b19a_o.jpg
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/24100000/The-60-s-Photos-the-60s-24193000-500-321.jpg

I'm hoping that the 2020s will feel like the 2000s again, but if it does feel like that and it's awful, or if I don't get a 2000s comeback, I'm banking on good tech.

The 2000s was more politically conservative and kind of like the 80s in a way, and the 2010s seems more liberal and like the 90s. There was a hell of a lot of nostalgia for the particular past decades then.

The state of the world will be fine. There is no reason to believe it won't. In fact, things may even improve in the late 10s a lot. Already there is noticeably less mass shootings and violence. State of the world, personal life, and pop culture will probably all improve in the late 10s. It will be a great era.


Yay, people are waking up to the fact that the 2000s are great (probably because 90s nostalgia is gonna fade away soon). Thing is, although justice is served, I hope that police states won't become the new norm like what George Orwell envisioned.

I hope the late 10's will feel like the 60's again. It's going to be exciting! 8)

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/174/430139338_cb5894b19a_o.jpg
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/24100000/The-60-s-Photos-the-60s-24193000-500-321.jpg

Based on the protests happening today (some of the largest in history), it's safe to say we're officially in the late 2010s now.

Based on the protests happening today (some of the largest in history), it's safe to say we're officially in the late 2010s now.


As much as I have to say it a million times, we've already been in the late 2010s since Trump has been elected. Literally a lot of people have been like this since November.

As much as I have to say it a million times, we've already been in the late 2010s since Trump has been elected. Literally a lot of people have been like this since November.

Here's how I see it.

2014 to November 7, 2016 was the mid 2010s.

November 8, 2016 to January 19, 2017 was the transition from the mid 2010s to late 2010s.

January 20, 2017 to now is officially the full late 2010s.

Here's how I see it.

2014 to November 7, 2016 was the mid 2010s.

November 8, 2016 to January 19, 2017 was the transition from the mid 2010s to late 2010s.

January 20, 2017 to now is officially the full late 2010s.


Fair enough.  :P

As much as I have to say it a million times, we've already been in the late 2010s since Trump has been elected. Literally a lot of people have been like this since November.

But there are no differences in terms of pop culture from the mid 10s so far.

But there are no differences in terms of pop culture from the mid 10s so far.


We're talking about political differences, which could actually be important with the late 2010s since people are already having a Trump backlash.

But there are no differences in terms of pop culture from the mid 10s so far.


That sh*t Paris song is going to top the charts, representing Americans' desire to be anywhere but where they are in these trying political times.


Just kidding lol. Same EDM garbage.

That sh*t Paris song is going to top the charts, representing Americans' desire to be anywhere but where they are in these trying political times.


Just kidding lol. Same EDM garbage.



Not so fast! Avril will revel in all this feminine energy and write songs for her next 10 million selling, chart topping album!

8)  8)  8)  8)  8)

Not so fast! Avril will revel in all this feminine energy and write songs for her next 10 million selling, chart topping album!

8)  8)  8)  8)  8)


Her record company doesn't even promote her anymore. She's done lol.

We're talking about political differences, which could actually be important with the late 2010s since people are already having a Trump backlash.


Perhaps, but politics aren't everything. If pop culture is still mid 2010s, then we still have a ways to go before it's 100% late 2010s.

Here's how I see it.

2014 to November 7, 2016 was the mid 2010s.

November 8, 2016 to January 19, 2017 was the transition from the mid 2010s to late 2010s.

January 20, 2017 to now is officially the full late 2010s.


It doesn't make sense to say we are fully in the late 2010s, solely based on politics. Pop culture is still knee deep in the mid 2010s. So by definition, we are not completely in the late 2010s.

In terms of music, Ed Sheeran is number one now with his song "Shape of you". It sounds just like a 2016 song, and this could easily be one of the biggest songs of the year if it stays high in the charts. Do you guys think music won't even change in the late 2010s? Because if you think about it, this electronic dancehall trend started in 2016 and if we just see these types of songs for the rest of the decade you can argue musically the late 10s started in 2016. Perhaps we'll see more of these songs and more of a decline in trap rap and teen pop. I just don't see anything else on the horizon at the moment to be honest. We also know Star Wars will be popular for the rest of the decade as the next episode will be released this year, a Han Solo story in 2018 and episode 9 in 2019. Game of Thrones will end in 2018. The current fashion and clothing styles are still in. Do you even think there is room for new culture to come in the late 10s? ??? Maybe we're stuck with what we have until 2019. Or maybe the change will be very gradual. I was more optimistic before but now I'm just not sure anymore.

Perhaps, but politics aren't everything. If pop culture is still mid 2010s, then we still have a ways to go before it's 100% late 2010s.


This is coming from the same person who doesn't like the 2010s at all. Does it really look like I care about pop culture still being in the mid 2010s? I mean, everyone related to pop culture doesn't like Trump and would be involved with the protests. It's starting to be more like the late 2010s.

In terms of music, Ed Sheeran is number one now with his song "Shape of you". It sounds just like a 2016 song, and this could easily be one of the biggest songs of the year if it stays high in the charts. Do you guys think music won't even change in the late 2010s? Because if you think about it, this electronic dancehall trend started in 2016 and if we just see these types of songs for the rest of the decade you can argue musically the late 10s started in 2016. Perhaps we'll see more of these songs and more of a decline in trap rap and teen pop. I just don't see anything else on the horizon at the moment to be honest. We also know Star Wars will be popular for the rest of the decade as the next episode will be released this year, a Han Solo story in 2018 and episode 9 in 2019. Game of Thrones will end in 2018. The current fashion and clothing styles are still in. Do you even think there is room for new culture to come in the late 10s? ??? Maybe we're stuck with what we have until 2019. Or maybe the change will be very gradual. I was more optimistic before but now I'm just not sure anymore.


I know how you feel about things not changing much. Still, I don't want to jump to any conclusions just yet. As for the Ed Sheeran song, I'm pretty sure that style was popular in the mid 2010s as well. I don't see it lasting until 2019. And yes, fashion is still pretty much the same now, but one could argue that fashion in early 1997 was still very mid 90s. Just because hipster fashion is still going strong now, does not mean it will last for the entire decade. The year has just begun, so I think most of the changes will occur later in the year. You also have to remember that early 2013 was still transitioning out of the early 2010s, in terms of pop culture. It wasn't until late 2013, when mid 2010s culture was really starting to take over (excluding politics). I think a lot of people exaggerate the influence a new president has on pop culture trends. It's not like music, fashion, etc., instantaneously changes once a new president is inaugurated.

Her record company doesn't even promote her anymore. She's done lol.


Damn, karma is vicious! It's karma for her irritating, high pitched, voice!  :(  :(  :(  :-X  :-X

I'm pretty sure that style was popular in the mid 2010s as well.

It has a 2016 dancehall vibe to it, one that was exclusively popular last year. It sounds similar to Sia's beat in Cheap Thrills.

2016 was also the first year many pop songs started getting major beat drops in the middle of the song, or as I like to call it very annoying random noises in the middle of the song, for example Justin Beiber's "Let me love you", Hailee Steinfeld's "Starving", Kiara's song "Gold", Panda, and a lot more. Some were tolerable though like the beat drop in the Chainsmoker's "Closer" and "Roses".


I don't see it lasting until 2019. And yes, fashion is still pretty much the same now, but one could argue that fashion in early 1997 was still very mid 90s. Just because hipster fashion is still going strong now, does not mean it will last for the entire decade. The year has just begun, so I think most of the changes will occur later in the year. You also have to remember that early 2013 was still transitioning out of the early 2010s, in terms of pop culture. It wasn't until late 2013, when mid 2010s culture was really starting to take over (excluding politics).


I really hope so! I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't change until then though because a lot of people just aren't that bored with pop culture at the moment it seems. I mean even with technology we have VR, powerful smartphones, and up next a foldable display Samsung is set out to release this year. I do hope you're right though.


I think a lot of people exaggerate the influence a new president has on pop culture trends. It's not like music, fashion, etc., instantaneously changes once a new president is inaugurated.

Oh yeah I totally agree. It may make a small impact but it is not as huge of an influence as people think, or at least not all the time.

I'm hoping that the 2020s will feel like the 2000s again, but if it does feel like that and it's awful, or if I don't get a 2000s comeback, I'm banking on good tech.

The 2000s was more politically conservative and kind of like the 80s in a way, and the 2010s seems more liberal and like the 90s. There was a hell of a lot of nostalgia for the particular past decades then.


Not hating on your hopes, but to be honest I'd just rather the 2020s feels like its own decade. One of the big reasons people love older decades is because of how unique/interesting they were. We can't get decades as good as the previous ones if all the new decades are are just modernized versions of older decades. Drawing some pop cultural influences from previous decades is fine as all decades are like that, but overall I want 2020s to feel a bit like its own decade.

mmm. my gym switched the music from Edm-pop to alternative. Gotta say that pop punk works well during the work out

I think we will see a lot of 2000s culture coming back in the 2020s, especially if President Trump gets a second term. There was a distinct anti-Bush vibe in mid 2000s music (American Idiot by Green Day, Amerika by Rammstein etc.), and that will only be amplified if Trump wins in 2020.

I think we will see a lot of 2000s culture coming back in the 2020s, especially if President Trump gets a second term. There was a distinct anti-Bush vibe in mid 2000s music (American Idiot by Green Day, Amerika by Rammstein etc.), and that will only be amplified if Trump wins in 2020.

Exactly what I predict.

mmm. my gym switched the music from Edm-pop to alternative. Gotta say that pop punk works well during the work out

Daaamn. I wish my university's gym were as cool as yours. If only I had a bit more money for sports earphones so I don't listen to half the crap they put out. Some of it is that genre when I work out. I blame the fundie Christians and mainstream media for why alternative isn't as big, and by fundie Christians, I probably mean some of the international students.

I think we will see a lot of 2000s culture coming back in the 2020s, especially if President Trump gets a second term. There was a distinct anti-Bush vibe in mid 2000s music (American Idiot by Green Day, Amerika by Rammstein etc.), and that will only be amplified if Trump wins in 2020.


I think people would see that in the early 2020s, since Trump would be still be president until January 20, 2021. Or unless he gets elected again in 2020, then I guess we have to suffer four more years with him.

I'll admit I'm getting a little afraid of what Trump is gonna do. I watched the news and he was signing all these documents and started scrapping all these trade agreements. I'm afraid of what he will do with NAFTA. He will screw over both Mexico and Canada by leaving NAFTA.

I'll admit I'm getting a little afraid of what Trump is gonna do. I watched the news and he was signing all these documents and started scrapping all these trade agreements. I'm afraid of what he will do with NAFTA. He will screw over both Mexico and Canada by leaving NAFTA.


I thought you hated NAFTA  :-X :-X

My opinion is that we should enter a (((globalist))) pact with Mexico, Europe and China. If the US raises tariffs on any of us, we'll all four raise tariffs on the US accordingly. This disproportionate reaction would provide a deterrent effect and hopefully make the US stop waving its dick around and bullying other countries. Well, either that, or Trump will get offended, and we'll be plunged into a global trade war and another Great Depression  ;D Not necessarily a bad thing, think of how much carbon emissions would reduce, we could save the planet  :D

I thought you hated NAFTA  :-X :-X

My opinion is that we should enter a (((globalist))) pact with Mexico, Europe and China. If the US raises tariffs on any of us, we'll all four raise tariffs on the US accordingly. This disproportionate reaction would provide a deterrent effect and hopefully make the US stop waving its dick around and bullying other countries. Well, either that, or Trump will get offended, and we'll be plunged into a global trade war and another Great Depression  ;D Not necessarily a bad thing, think of how much carbon emissions would reduce, we could save the planet  :D

When did I say I hated NAFTA?  :o Perhaps I gave it a lot of much needed criticism as it certainly hasn't always been good and there are problems with it. But Canada's growth and economy thrives on it and I certainly don't want it to be gone. And yeah that would be a good plan if it were to come to that. Put the same amount of tariff on the U.S. as they would on us.

What fascinates me is that he was allowed to kill the TPP. This is the man who said it was a bad deal because it would only benefit China........ despite China not being a signatory, and the whole reason the TPP was created was to create an Asian bulwark against China.  This man was the ultimate arbiter of the TPP. It's pure lunacy down there!

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The best way to change the culture's music is to find new artists and promote them to your friends and family and social media followers.

The best way to change the culture's music is to find new artists and promote them to your friends and family and social media followers.


OR we can just accept that nothing will get better in this dark Ariana Grande era. Have you seen this?

https://i2.wp.com/ihackedit.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/FINAL-FANTASY-BRAVE-EXVIUS.jpg?w=175

The end is nigh.

The best way to change the culture's music is to find new artists and promote them to your friends and family and social media followers.


Yup!

OR we can just accept that nothing will get better in this dark Ariana Grande era. Have you seen this?

https://i2.wp.com/ihackedit.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/FINAL-FANTASY-BRAVE-EXVIUS.jpg?w=175

The end is nigh.


Music has been blah, lately!  :(  :(

OR we can just accept that nothing will get better in this dark Ariana Grande era. Have you seen this?

https://i2.wp.com/ihackedit.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/FINAL-FANTASY-BRAVE-EXVIUS.jpg?w=175

The end is nigh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNLUS0o69wQ

Music has been blah, lately!  :(  :(


I agree.

Only 5 days in and it's been an absolute disaster. Zelek bet on the wrong horse. There is truly only one saviour of our times, and that is Nintendo. We must all do our part: pre-order a Switch at your local game retailer today for the very fair price of $299.99. Pre-order today and we'll include a TV dock at no extra charge, their generous gift to you. Could someone who delivered as much 2016 qualiTy the likes of Pokémon GO and Pokémon Sun/Moon really fail us? Impossibru!

Only 5 days in and it's been an absolute disaster. Zelek bet on the wrong horse. There is truly only one saviour of our times, and that is Nintendo. We must all do our part: pre-order a Switch at your local game retailer today for the very fair price of $299.99. Pre-order today and we'll include a TV dock at no extra charge, their generous gift to you. Could someone who delivered as much 2016 qualiTy the likes of Pokémon GO and Pokémon Sun/Moon really fail us? Impossibru!


lol

The fact that you want people to have the Nintendo Switch is really sad. I'll rather give it to some kid who never experienced the true golden age of Nintendo (1986-2001). Especially since I only grew up with the original Wii in the late 2000s. But yet, it doesn't really matter after Nintendo did as bad as Sega ever since the Wii U was launched. The only people who would buy the Switch are those who grew up with either the NES, SNES, or even the N64. Did I grew up with these consoles? No. I only had the ROM files of those games, and I barely played it on a physical console. Which is actually sad, because I had this conversation like this on IGN, and they said that playing emulators is lame compared to the real experience.

That's like me trying to remember 9/11, except I was only an infant back then. Plus, even if I remembered anything relevant towards that day, it would be more towards watching Elmo or something. That's how much I didn't understand about terrorist attacks as a baby. It would be marvelous if any baby back in 2001 remembered the attacks, and recalled it 100% clear as anybody else. Why the f*ck would people be persuaded to buy a Nintendo Switch, if it's the weakest modern video game console ever? Even Sony and Microsoft fanboys at least have something to enjoy with, since both the PS4 and Xbox One is already compatible with DVDs. Has any Nintendo console been compatible with either DVDs or even CDs? No. It's embarrassing for Nintendo to be like this, even though they were top of the world during the late 1980s, 1990s, and even the early-mid 2000s.

Just really face it, Slowpoke. Nintendo is the new Sega. The Wii U was just the Wii on life support, just like the 32x was the Sega Genesis on life support. As much as I have to say it, it's really a sad experience for Nintendo. For anything, I would rather go and get myself some new PC games. It would most likely be on Steam, but at least it would be better than buying an abomination that's way behind its marketing. 

At least no one's milking on the generation threads anymore.

I think people would see that in the early 2020s, since Trump would be still be president until January 20, 2021. Or unless he gets elected again in 2020, then I guess we have to suffer four more years with him.
Trump(2017-2020) maybe like Carter(1977-1980) and just be around for the later part of the decade.

As I've said before I think the left can be too PC at times...but looking at it realistically I realize it's just such small potatoes compared to handing the power of the Presidency to someone like Trump. The fact that he hasn't toned it down at all during the transition (still acting like a fool on twitter along with his cabinet appointments) re-enforces it even more the danger this guy poses to the republic. He seems to be appointing people that want to get rid of the departments they're supposed to head. You got a climate change denying oil lobby suck up (Pruitt) for EPA, the lady who wants to get rid of public schools for education (DeVos), Perry who said he'd get rid of the Energy Department for you guessed it Secretary of Energy, the confederate sympathizer (Sessions) for Attorney General, a freaking fast food CEO (Puzder) for Secretary of Labor. The whole thing is insane really.
Yeah but Obama had a lot of people from academia in his cabinet and that didn't work out so well. So lets see if Trump's cabinet works out better than Obama's...

I agree.  In 2-3 years, I guarantee that some of Obama's biggest criticizers will be missing the Obama era.  They will look back and think that maybe he wasn't so bad.  A similar thing happened with Clinton in the '00s, though I think that Obama's overall legacy will be much larger and stronger than Bill Clinton's.
I miss Bill Clinton since he was the last good President that we had.

Americans don't really think about communism that much, aside from the people who were uneducated for a long time. Some of them think the Chinese made global warming though.
China does pollute more than the US does not to say that the Chinese made Global Warming though.

Pretty much the mid to late 50's was when mainstream music became bearable. I'd say it set up the mainstream to be great all the way up until the late 90's/early 00's. I don't know how it works though, it was like once rock and roll was out of its cage in the late 50's it set up some sort of snowball effect, for decades!  :o

Then came sexney Spears in 1999 and music went downhill, or at least started to!  :-X  :-X
She had a great music video (with the school girl outfit) with a catchy song "Baby One More Time" to go along with it.  She sold 25 million combined of her first 2 albums which is a hard thing to do.

I hereby decree that the late 2010s will be sh*t, and there's no point in being hopeful about it unless you enjoy being disappointed. However, this will drive market pressures and result in unprecedented investments in virtual reality technology and of course the Nintendo Switch, available March 3rd. Palmer Luckey's grand master plan.

I hereby decree that the late 2010s will be sh*t, and there's no point in being hopeful about it unless you enjoy being disappointed. However, this will drive market pressures and result in unprecedented investments in virtual reality technology and of course the Nintendo Switch, available March 3rd. Palmer Luckey's grand master plan.


I agree with this.  I am not hopeful at all.  This is going to be a rough four years.  Actually this entire decade has been the decade from hell for me.  The only part that was decent was the early '10s.

I hereby decree that the late 2010s will be sh*t, and there's no point in being hopeful about it unless you enjoy being disappointed. However, this will drive market pressures and result in unprecedented investments in virtual reality technology and of course the Nintendo Switch, available March 3rd. Palmer Luckey's grand master plan.


Hopefully, Trump doesn't win a 2nd term.

Hopefully, Trump doesn't win a 2nd term.


Don't ever jinx that. I don't think a lot of people would want him for four more years.

I hereby decree that the late 2010s will be sh*t, and there's no point in being hopeful about it unless you enjoy being disappointed. However, this will drive market pressures and result in unprecedented investments in virtual reality technology and of course the Nintendo Switch, available March 3rd. Palmer Luckey's grand master plan.

I think the late 10s will be decent. We'll need to wait and see. 2017 only just started and the late 10s were only around for technically 5 months.

Hopefully, Trump doesn't win a 2nd term.


Yeah, I'm hoping for the same. Hopefully you will Switch (available March 3rd) your president by then.


I agree with this.  I am not hopeful at all.  This is going to be a rough four years.  Actually this entire decade has been the decade from hell for me.  The only part that was decent was the early '10s.


:(

(hugs)


I think the late 10s will be decent. We'll need to wait and see. 2017 only just started and the late 10s were only around for technically 5 months.


You hated the early '10s and mid '10s but think the late '10s will be decent? Where did that trend line come from? :P Let me guess... Switch hype? Me too.

Yeah, I'm hoping for the same. Hopefully you will Switch (available March 3rd) your president by then.

:(

(hugs)

You hated the early '10s and mid '10s but think the late '10s will be decent? Where did that trend line come from? :P Let me guess... Switch hype? Me too.

Haha well I hated the early 10s the most and mid 10s were a little improvement and now hopefully the late 10s will be an improvement from that. So it does follow the pattern.  ;D

Hopefully, Trump doesn't win a 2nd term.


That's if he lives up to his words.

We will remember this decade for a long long time....

Not the music which absolutely sucked(except for the underground pop punk scene which is really booming! :D ).... but the events...

Recession WILL happen before 2020.... that I can garauntee.... and the more and more we put off the Recession with the Fed supporting the economy with easy money... the more and more worse it will be.

Trump has little control in that factor...

I slightly approve of Trump so far... he just needs to STAY ON FOCUS AND NOT GETTING IN HONESTLY INSANELY PETTY POLITICIAL BATTLES... sigh... if he just focuses on tweeting his policy and ideas and focuses on working for the common man instead of fueding every single day... he could be a good president...

Oh and currency markets are saying by far Trump is winning his little skirmish with the Mexican President with the Peso being absolutely hammered yesterday while the USD rose signficantly.

Trump proved to me this week that he will not change in Washington but at the same time he is a hard worker who will try his best(even obsessively so) to keep his campaign promises.

The Late 2010s transition started in July 2016.... that I can see.

I think the late 10s will be decent. We'll need to wait and see. 2017 only just started and the late 10s were only around for technically 5 months.


In all honesty, the late 2010s would be lame as hell. The only thing that would make people laugh and cry is the fact that Trump is America's president. Hell, the rest of this decade's pop culture would be picking on Trump. Especially since he has a Twitter that is well known on the site.

Trump’s Immigration Ban Excludes Countries With Business Ties

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-trump-immigration-ban-conflict-of-interest/

Anyone else plans on registering as Muslims if he starts a registry?

Trump’s Immigration Ban Excludes Countries With Business Ties

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-trump-immigration-ban-conflict-of-interest/

Anyone else plans on registering as Muslims if he starts a registry?


I'll rather live in America, even if it's run by a person who doesn't know what he's doing.

I'll rather live in America, even if it's run by a person who doesn't know what he's doing.


If a guy is willing to deport and imprison suspected Muslim US citizens, what do you think he'll start doing to citizens who disagree with him?

You gonna keep your head down through the whole thing?

If a guy is willing to deport and imprison suspected Muslim US citizens, what do you think he'll start doing to citizens who disagree with him?


But that's the point. If you're considered as a Muslim, then you'll get kicked out as a citizen. I seriously don't want that, since I was born in America. Even if I move to a Middle Eastern country (which has the majority population of Muslims), then I'll either get executed, whipped, tortured, poisoned, assaulted, murdered, etc. Most of their governments don't like Americans, nor any other western country.


You gonna keep your head down through the whole thing?


What else am I gonna do? Verbally assault Trump? It's just gonna lead into more disasters.

But that's the point. If you're considered as a Muslim, then you'll get kicked out as a citizen. I seriously don't want that, since I was born in America. Even if I move to a Middle Eastern country (which has the majority population of Muslims), then I'll either get executed, whipped, tortured, poisoned, assaulted, murdered, etc. Most of their governments don't like Americans, nor any other western country.

What else am I gonna do? Verbally assault Trump? It's just gonna lead into more disasters.


I hope you get out and travel toe some of those countries one day. You'll be surprised. That's all I can say about your first paragraph.

As for your second, I just find that sad, but I can't expect everyone to be a fighter.

I hope you get out and travel toe some of those countries one day. You'll be surprised. That's all I can say about your first paragraph.


So basically, I should go to countries like Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia, and feel happy being there. Why would I want to do that, if they don't even have freedom of speech? You can't even do a lot of things freely, unless you were a men. Plus, if I do one thing very Western in public, then I'll get arrested.

Have you ever understand that Americans are demonized in the Middle East? Why do you think ISIS and Al-Qaeda sympathizers chant "Death to America", while burning American flags? Because we don't treat them well?! What kind of logic is that?


As for your second, I just find that sad, but I can't expect everyone to be a fighter.


Look, I just don't like Trump, but I don't think violence against him would be the answer. Yes, he doesn't follow criticism, and he would attack you with his tweets. However, I've dealt with worse things on the Internet that would make him look like a joke. Especially when I took things way too seriously when I was 14 and 15. It's stuff that I would regret time after time, but it reminds that I'm still alive to this day.

I don't even think it would solve anything towards people who actually supported Trump throughout this election. People have different political beliefs, and the First Amendment protects that. So saying that we should be deported in the country we were raised in is like a suicide mission to me.

But that's the point. If you're considered as a Muslim, then you'll get kicked out as a citizen. I seriously don't want that, since I was born in America. Even if I move to a Middle Eastern country (which has the majority population of Muslims), then I'll either get executed, whipped, tortured, poisoned, assaulted, murdered, etc. Most of their governments don't like Americans, nor any other western country.

What else am I gonna do? Verbally assault Trump? It's just gonna lead into more disasters.


You're waaaaay more likely to be shot as a Muslim in the US than as anyone in the non-war torn Middle Eastern countries. The US is one of the most dangerous countries in the world for murders. In contrast, a lot of Muslim countries like Kuwait, Indonesia, UAE etc. are among the safest countries in the world. You can check for yourself https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Lowest murder rates
(#4 Japan)
(#6 Iceland)
#7 Kuwait
#8 Indonesia
#10 Bahrain
(#14 Norway)
#17 United Arab Emirates
(#21 Spain)
#25 Saudi Arabia
(#32 Germany)
#35 Morocco
...
...
#50 Algeria
(#51 Canada)
...
...
...
#105 Uzbekistan
(#108 United States of America)
#110 Iran

I included non-Muslim countries in brackets for comparison.

No need for crazy stereotypes. As BornIn86 said, you need to get out more. A lot of Americans live in countries like the UAE and Saudi Arabia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_diaspora)

I've traveled to a lot of muslim countries and they were absolutely safe and accepted people from different countries/religions.

I fell and scraped my knee! I don't trust this America you speak of!  >:(  >:(  >:(

America is where I was born in.

I've traveled to a lot of muslim countries and they were absolutely safe and accepted people from different countries/religions.


So, they're not as violent as what you see on TV? ???

You're waaaaay more likely to be shot as a Muslim in the US than as anyone in the non-war torn Middle Eastern countries. The US is one of the most dangerous countries in the world for murders. In contrast, a lot of Muslim countries like Kuwait, Indonesia, UAE etc. are among the safest countries in the world. You can check for yourself https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Lowest murder rates
(#4 Japan)
(#6 Iceland)
#7 Kuwait
#8 Indonesia
#10 Bahrain
(#14 Norway)
#17 United Arab Emirates
(#21 Spain)
#25 Saudi Arabia
(#32 Germany)
#35 Morocco
...
...
#50 Algeria
(#51 Canada)
...
...
...
#105 Uzbekistan
(#108 United States of America)
#110 Iran


So.. if Iran, a Middle Eastern country, has higher death rates than America, then why would I wanna go there? I think I should explain myself more better. I'm an agnostic atheist, who pretty much likes a lot of things American. Add to the fact that I also like a lot of Jewish stuff, and have a few Jewish friends, I don't think I would fit right well into the Middle East. Because in most Middle Eastern countries, they would most likely give you death penalties for being an ATHEIST.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_the_Middle_East#Persecution_of_atheists_in_the_Middle_East

I could get that America hates Muslims too, but the point is that I do not want to be a Muslim, to avoid persecution in most states. Especially when Trump wants Middle Eastern refugees out of the country, it's more of a big deal if I told I'm a Muslim.


No need for crazy stereotypes. As BornIn86 said, you need to get out more. A lot of Americans live in countries like the UAE and Saudi Arabia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_diaspora)


I would like to go out more, but not in the Middle East of all things. Especially when my father is in a wheelchair, and he can't really live on his own without my mother's income. I can't even get out because I still have school to go to. Have I ever mention that I'm 17?

So.. if Iran, a Middle Eastern country, has higher death rates than America, then why would I wanna go there? I think I should explain myself more better. I'm an agnostic atheist, who pretty much likes a lot of things American. Add to the fact that I also like a lot of Jewish stuff, and have a few Jewish friends, I don't think I would fit right well into the Middle East. Because in most Middle Eastern countries, they would most likely give you death penalties for being an ATHEIST.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_the_Middle_East#Persecution_of_atheists_in_the_Middle_East



Iran isn't significantly more dangerous than America, they are about as safe as each other, at least going by murder rates. If you trust yourself to not get murdered walking the streets of New York, then T ehran* shouldn't be cause for much trouble either.  Besides, Iran is not the only country in the Middle East, far from it, it's a very different country from the Arab countries/Israel/Turkey. What you're saying is the equivalent of "I don't want to go to London. Europe is very dangerous; just look at Ukraine".

Treatment of atheists is bad in Muslim countries, but the focus is on the apostasy of ex-Muslims, rather than all atheists. You're not Muslim, never were, your religion or lack thereof will not be considered a problem in most Middle Eastern countries. The death penalty is not for atheism, the death penalty is for apostasy. A subtle but important difference. Your fears are unfounded. Rest assured, since you don't have a vagina and aren't LGBT, you don't have anything to worry about when travelling to most Middle Eastern countries.


I could get that America hates Muslims too, but the point is that I do not want to be a Muslim, to avoid persecution in most states. Especially when Trump wants Middle Eastern refugees out of the country, it's more of a big deal if I told I'm a Muslim.


BornIn86 was arguing for non-Muslims to sign up for the Muslim registry as a protest move, to make the registry unreliable, not to convert to Islam.


I would like to go out more, but not in the Middle East of all things. Especially when my father is in a wheelchair, and he can't really live on his own without my mother's income. I can't even get out because I still have school to go to. Have I ever mention that I'm 17?



Generally, it's not wise to say absurd things about countries you don't know much about, regardless of life situation. Stereotyping usually leads to being incorrect, and you could really offend someone.

*For some reason inthe00s keeps filtering T e h r a n (capital of Iran) into theran. Strange. ;D

I've traveled to a lot of muslim countries and they were absolutely safe and accepted people from different countries/religions.


Neato! Which ones did you go to? :D

Of those countries, I went through a Gulf countries tour in 1999, and hit up Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar and UAE. They all felt really safe, and there were a lot of British immigrants living there, whom I'm sure many were atheist. I went to Bahrain again in 2006. Love that country, shame about the political situation.  :-\\

BornIn86 was arguing for non-Muslims to sign up for the Muslim registry as a protest move, to make the registry unreliable, not to convert to Islam.


Even if I wanted to get out of this country, I'll rather go to Canada or the United Kingdom.

Generally, it's not wise to say absurd things about countries you don't know much about, regardless of life situation. Stereotyping usually leads to being incorrect, and you could really offend someone.

What does to have to do with stereotyping? I just don't want to go to the Middle East. I don't think a lot of Muslims are fundamentalist, especially in the Middle East. It's just that I feel uncomfortable talking about the Middle East, if it has to deal with me going there. Even though it would never happen to me.

What does to have to do with stereotyping?


Even if I move to a Middle Eastern country (which has the majority population of Muslims), then I'll either get executed, whipped, tortured, poisoned, assaulted, murdered, etc. Most of their governments don't like Americans, nor any other western country.

Even if I move to a Middle Eastern country (which has the majority population of Muslims), then I'll either get executed, whipped, tortured, poisoned, assaulted, murdered, etc. Most of their governments don't like Americans, nor any other western country.
-NewYorkEagle


I just don't want to move out of America and go to another country for the rest of my life. Not that I want to go to vacation in a country near the Middle East. Maybe I'll rather go to Israel. It's not like I'm completely honest towards anything with politics. I don't even like either the Democrats nor the Republicans.

The alt-right does something good, kills the undercut hairstyle

Women are associating the hairstyle with the fachos, it's only a matter of time. :o

The alt-right does something good, kills the undercut hairstyle

Women are associating the hairstyle with the fachos, it's only a matter of time. :o

Called it! This hairstyle was made great by these loons.

Called it! This hairstyle was made great by these loons.


I always thought the Brexit kids looked a bit too fancy. At the time I dismissed them as rich, white London Tory kids but now I hear that there are alternative explanations.

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/06/24/10/brexit-3.jpg

By 2019, I'm not sure if America will still be here, with the Orange one still in office.  ::)

I am heavily nostalgic for the early 2010s with everything going on.  Lady Gaga is playing the Superbowl and I was thinking about how much simpler and optimistic life was back when she was popular.

The alt-right does something good, kills the undercut hairstyle

Women are associating the hairstyle with the fachos, it's only a matter of time. :o


How do you keep that hairstyle in place?

How do you keep that hairstyle in place?


Loads upon loads of gel.

I am heavily nostalgic for the early 2010s with everything going on.  Lady Gaga is playing the Superbowl and I was thinking about how much simpler and optimistic life was back when she was popular.


I'm still surprised by the fact that a lot of the issues we face today didn't even exist in the early '10s.

Now that we have a new "Republican" president (even though he's switched party multiple times), I'm really feeling like it is as good a time as any to try and relive the early 2000s :P

I am heavily nostalgic for the early 2010s with everything going on.  Lady Gaga is playing the Superbowl and I was thinking about how much simpler and optimistic life was back when she was popular.


I can't believe I'm saying this, but 2009/2010 just feel "old" now. That was definitely a different time. Hard to believe we were all 8 years younger in 2009  :o


Now that we have a new "Republican" president (even though he's switched party multiple times), I'm really feeling like it is as good a time as any to try and relive the early 2000s :P


With the election of Trump, the early 2000s go beyond outdated and now feel other-worldly and almost disconnected from today's times, particularly the pre-9/11 early 2000s. Al-Qaeda won.

With the election of Trump, the early 2000s go beyond outdated and now feel other-worldly and almost disconnected from today's times, particularly the pre-9/11 early 2000s. Al-Qaeda won.


I was actually thinking last night about how I would take George Bush any day over Donald Trump.  Bush was incompetent in his own way, but he might as well be Einstein compared to Cheeto Jesus.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but 2009/2010 just feel "old" now. That was definitely a different time. Hard to believe we were all 8 years younger in 2009  :o

2009/2010 doesn't feel like a different time quite yet. Not that old but still dated, culturally speaking of course. For my personal life it is definitely another world.

I was actually thinking last night about how I would take George Bush any day over Donald Trump.  Bush was incompetent in his own way, but he might as well be Einstein compared to Cheeto Jesus.

At least Trump isn't a neocon.

but Trump is still an authoritarian and doesn't really like differing views. The environment wasn't part of his policy, and the way he took it was to send a gag order unto the EPA.

I was actually thinking last night about how I would take George Bush any day over Donald Trump.  Bush was incompetent in his own way, but he might as well be Einstein compared to Cheeto Jesus.


Trump seems to be making a lot of people nostalgic for Bush, back in 2009 that would have seemed impossible. So that's one thing Trump "accomplished" so far I guess. Bush seems like Abe Lincoln compared to Dump. ::) Bush was sort of a lovable idiot, Trump on the other hand is nothing but a cold hearted mean jerk.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but 2009/2010 just feel "old" now. That was definitely a different time. Hard to believe we were all 8 years younger in 2009  :o

With the election of Trump, the early 2000s go beyond outdated and now feel other-worldly and almost disconnected from today's times, particularly the pre-9/11 early 2000s. Al-Qaeda won.


To think in 2001 Republican President George W. Bush, right after 9/11 went to a mosque and called Islam a "religion of peace". Can you imagine a Republican doing such a thing today? Yeah it seems surreal to think now. Al Qaeda is indeed winning in the long term, the USA is becoming just like them. The current Republican president just banned millions of muslims from entering the country and didn't mention Jews on Holocaust Remember Day.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but 2009/2010 just feel "old" now. That was definitely a different time. Hard to believe we were all 8 years younger in 2009  :o

Agreed, even 2012 seems "old" to me. I was still in high school, Obama just won a second term, Al-Qaeda seemed on the run (even though it really wasn't), and the biggest issue was Benghazi. Life was simpler back then.

2009/2010 doesn't feel like a different time quite yet. Not that old but still dated, culturally speaking of course. For my personal life it is definitely another world.


The whole Blackberry with the netbooks and pushing the hand sanitizer button to immunize against H1N1 though... The obession with 3DTVs, the iPod nanos. Kelly Clarkson, Usher and All-American Rejects still topping the charts... Maybe it's the nostalgia, but there's something about it that feels so quaint.  ;D


At least Trump isn't a neocon.


The only foreign policy ideology more detestable than neoconservatism is nationalism. It has all the lamentable aspects of neoconservatism: namely, war and strong arming countries to do what you want, except this time it isn't about morality and spreading your civic culture, but instead about pillaging and plundering, oh, I should say "advancing national interests". I may have rallied against Bush for his unjustified wars, but at least one could argue his heart was (ultimately) in the right place: to liberate Iraq/Afghanistan from their oppressive regimes. At first everyone thought Trump was an isolationist, but his recent military intervention in Yemen, and him threatening war with Iran and Mexico, and saying that the war in Iraq would be justified "if we took the oil", suggests he still thinks the US has a role to play on the world stage.


To think in 2001 Republican President George W. Bush, right after 9/11 went to a mosque and called Islam a "religion of peace". Can you imagine a Republican doing such a thing today? Yeah it seems surreal to think now. Al Qaeda is indeed winning in the long term, the USA is becoming just like them. The current Republican president just banned millions of muslims from entering the country and didn't mention Jews on Holocaust Remember Day.


George Bush started the Iraq War, but he had the moral conscience to create the process that would eventually take in 115,000 Iraqi refugees who were displaced by the war, including many minorities fleeing persecution like Christians and Kurds. Trump is on record for being a supporter of the war in 2002, he (or his office) destabilized the country and put many lives into peril, yet refuses to take any responsibility for what is going on there and banned even legal Iraqis and American residents (including many who aided the US army in the war) from entering the country. I can't believe he has us defending George W. Bush of all people; he's just that bad ;D

Agreed, even 2012 seems "old" to me. I was still in high school, Obama just won a second term, Al-Qaeda seemed on the run (even though it really wasn't), and the biggest issue was Benghazi. Life was simpler back then.

I'm ready for Gangnam Style Part 2.

It's official, 2000 to 2002 are 'old' to me. Not ancient, like ancient Rome, or the time of the dinosaurs, or anything, like that.  ;D
But definitely feels like a lifetime ago to me, personal-life wise, and pop culturally!

I'm ready for Gangnam Style Part 2.


no. just no.  >:(

George Bush started the Iraq War, but he had the moral conscience to create the process that would eventually take in 115,000 Iraqi refugees who were displaced by the war, including many minorities fleeing persecution like Christians and Kurds. Trump is on record for being a supporter of the war in 2002, he (or his office) destabilized the country and put many lives into peril, yet refuses to take any responsibility for what is going on there and banned even legal Iraqis and American residents (including many who aided the US army in the war) from entering the country. I can't believe he has us defending George W. Bush of all people; he's just that bad ;D


The way Trump is going so far, he might be the one to start World War III.  :o

I'm ready for Gangnam Style Part 2.


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Loads upon loads of gel.


and hairspray too?

The way Trump is going so far, he might be the one to start World War III.  :o


Then you might has well have him impeached. ::)

It's official, 2000 to 2002 are 'old' to me. Not ancient, like ancient Rome, or the time of the dinosaurs, or anything, like that.  ;D
But definitely feels like a lifetime ago to me, personal-life wise, and pop culturally!


As someone who was only a toddler at the time, the Early 2000s definitely feel like a completely different world to me. It's hard to explain, but for me personally, they have a "mysterious" feel to them. I only have vague memories of 2001 and 2002, but I can remember 2003 vividly.

As someone who was only a toddler at the time, the Early 2000s definitely feel like a completely different world to me. It's hard to explain, but for me personally, they have a "mysterious" feel to them. I only have vague memories of 2001 and 2002, but I can remember 2003 vividly.


I was a teenager at the time and I think the early '00s compared to now are very old too. It's all relative as time passes it's really weird. In say 2001 I thought things were so "modern" then, now as I've witnessed 16 years of changes 2001 does now seem essentially "retro" to me compared to what I see now. I was much younger then, a 14 year old of 2001 like me is now turning 30. I was the same age then as someone born in 2003 is now, pretty weird to think.

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What?! It was fun! I can still pull it off :D

It's official, 2000 to 2002 are 'old' to me. Not ancient, like ancient Rome, or the time of the dinosaurs, or anything, like that.  ;D
But definitely feels like a lifetime ago to me, personal-life wise, and pop culturally!

They're not retro yet, just very dated. "Old" can be anything really including last week haha.

What?! It was fun! I can still pull it off :D


NO! We don't need that to come back!

NO! We don't need that to come back!


Yeah, especially when it just reminds me of my depressing 8th grade year.  :(

NO! We don't need that to come back!


I bet you think Macarena is great though. Keeping up the double standard! >:(

I bet you think Macarena is great though. Keeping up the double standard! >:(


But the Macarena is 10,000x better than Gangnam Style of all things. It was brought back with perfect altitude.

Yeah, especially when it just reminds me of my depressing 8th grade year.  :(


It came out in the summer though! It should remind you of the time you were freed ;D

It reminds me of my of the summer after first year uni. I actually heard the song before the MV came out! I was at my friend's house (he's Korean) and it was really late at night, like 2AM. I was staying over the night and he got wasted and passed out, so I was hanging out with his sister. We were watching a Korean music program, and that's when PSY came on and he debuted the song live. After the show was over I remarked "That was actually pretty fun. My favourite song was the Oppa Gangnam Style song, that song is pure fun". After about ~10 minutes after the show finished, the MV went up on YouTube and we laughed our asses off, probably watched it like 5 times. Two or three days later and the MV was showing up on CNN and stuff :o

I'm starting miss my early university years :(

I'm ready for Gangnam Style Part 2.


What about Harlem Shake? :P

But the Macarena is 10,000x better than Gangnam Style of all things. It was brought back with perfect altitude.


Mess! How do you even measure that. Gangnam Style was an intriguing critique on the class inequalities facing modern societies in the post-recession world, backed up by a fun party song. Macarena who?

What about Harlem Shake? :P


I danced to that too  :-[ :-[ :-[

Whatever happened to viral dance trends? I haven't seen one since Happy by Pharrell Williams. Sad!

I liked Gangnam Style. It was a pretty fun song. It's good for what it was.

As someone who was only a toddler at the time, the Early 2000s definitely feel like a completely different world to me. It's hard to explain, but for me personally, they have a "mysterious" feel to them. I only have vague memories of 2001 and 2002, but I can remember 2003 vividly.


What you feel about the early 00's is what I feel about 1991 to 1993!  :o

What you feel about the early 00's is what I feel about 1991 to 1993!  :o

Or 1997 and 1998.

Or 1997 and 1998.


I'm guessin you were born at a different time than me.  :)

I liked Gangnam Style. It was a pretty fun song. It's good for what it was.

Our children will ask us – "Daddy, where were you when the Gangnam Style was a thing?" Then they'll want you to teach it to them. Not knowing it would be child neglect!

Our children will ask us – "Daddy, where were you when the Gangnam Style was a thing?" Then they'll want you to teach it to them. Not knowing it would be child neglect!


Slowpoke is going to ruin the next generation. >:( I'll make sure that gangnum style never makes it past the 2010s.

NO! We don't need that to come back!


What needs to come back? ???

But the Macarena is 10,000x better than Gangnam Style of all things. It was brought back with perfect altitude.


The Macarena dance is sexy.

The Macarena dance is sexy.


In what universe? ???

Our children will ask us – "Daddy, where were you when the Gangnam Style was a thing?" Then they'll want you to teach it to them. Not knowing it would be child neglect!


I think "What Does The Fox Say" fits this description more than Gangnam Style.

I think "What Does The Fox Say" fits this description more than Gangnam Style.

Now that's a song I despise.  >:( Awful song.

In what universe? ???


maybe it's the hip shaking.

Now that's a song I despise.  >:( Awful song.


I think being awful was the goal of the song.  ;D

What needs to come back? ???


To be honest nothing. I'm actually getting a bit tired of comebacks. Now I know comebacks have been a thing since the 20th century, but what makes an era great is when they make their own original stuff. People always complain about how 21st century decades don't feel unique (for a reason I've explained in another thread) yet they're part of the problem since instead of the current decades doing something new they'd just prefer for them to bring back something from older decades. Reliving old stuff certainly won't make a time period unique. Now if we get new things that are influenced somewhat by old things then it's fine. But I wouldn't want a 100% revival of old stuff. Can't progress if pop culture keeps trying to move backwards.

My prediction about Canada becoming the global super power seems to be coming closer. I mean, the New York Times said we're leading the free world. I expect great things for the early '20s! Soon, everyone will be speaking Canadian and saying "Heil Trudeau!"

My prediction about Canada becoming the global super power seems to be coming closer. I mean, the New York Times said we're leading the free world. I expect great things for the early '20s! Soon, everyone will be speaking Canadian and saying "Heil Trudeau!"

Trudeau broke his promise on electoral reform.  >:( I think he will lose in 2019. And unfortunately racism is happening here too like last week's shooting in Quebec.

Trudeau broke his promise on electoral reform.  >:( I think he will lose in 2019. And unfortunately racism is happening here too like last week's shooting in Quebec.


I'm really pissed off about that too. That was half the reason I could stomach voting for him.  >:(

I'm really pissed off about that too. That was half the reason I could stomach voting for him.  >:(

That was one of the main reasons I voted for him too.

To be honest nothing. I'm actually getting a bit tired of comebacks. Now I know comebacks have been a thing since the 20th century, but what makes an era great is when they make their own original stuff. People always complain about how 21st century decades don't feel unique (for a reason I've explained in another thread) yet they're part of the problem since instead of the current decades doing something new they'd just prefer for them to bring back something from older decades. Reliving old stuff certainly won't make a time period unique. Now if we get new things that are influenced somewhat by old things then it's fine. But I wouldn't want a 100% revival of old stuff. Can't progress if pop culture keeps trying to move backwards.


I want something new and GOOD. Not something new and blah. I'll continue to listen to past music until this music improves. The early 10s had some promise in music but then it disappeared.

I want something new and GOOD. Not something new and blah. I'll continue to listen to past music until this music improves. The early 10s had some promise in music but then it disappeared.

This music on now is way better than early 10s music but nowhere near good as early and mid 00s music.

This music on now is way better than early 10s music but nowhere near good as early and mid 00s music.


...and Early/Mid 2000s music is nowhere near as good as Early and Mid 90s music! :P

...and Early/Mid 2000s music is nowhere near as good as Early and Mid 90s music! :P

That's definitely true too. Music started to suck around the late 90s.

That's definitely true too. Music started to suck around the late 90s.


I agree. In my opinion, 1999 was when popular music really started to decline in quality. Personally, I believe 1996 was the last overall good year in popular music.

I want something new and GOOD. Not something new and blah. I'll continue to listen to past music until this music improves. The early 10s had some promise in music but then it disappeared.


I agree completely. Music that's new, just for the sake of being new, tends to be terrible.

I agree. In my opinion, 1999 was when popular music really started to decline in quality. Personally, I believe 1996 was the last overall good year in popular music.
Well 2004-mid 2005 is when music was still decent. Even 2006-mid 2007 there was some decent stuff but there was stuff like ringtone rap which was bad.

1999-2000 was an oddity back then when Teen-Pop pretty much dominated in the media because of TRL. In 2001-early 2003 music pretty much picked off from where it left off in 1997-1998 with A/C and R&B being dominant before 50 Cent arrived on the scene in real early Spring of 2003.

To think in 2001 Republican President George W. Bush, right after 9/11 went to a mosque and called Islam a "religion of peace". Can you imagine a Republican doing such a thing today? Yeah it seems surreal to think now. Al Qaeda is indeed winning in the long term, the USA is becoming just like them. The current Republican president just banned millions of muslims from entering the country and didn't mention Jews on Holocaust Remember Day.
Trump hardly banned all Muslims since 85% of Muslims were still allowed in Trump's executive order but 15% weren't. Now that the Circuit Judge in Seattle just paused Trumps executive order so the order is thrown out for the time being.

Well 2004-mid 2005 is when music was still decent. Even 2006-mid 2007 there was some decent stuff but there was stuff like ringtone rap which was bad.

1999-2000 was an oddity back then when Teen-Pop pretty much dominated in the media because of TRL. In 2001-early 2003 music pretty much picked off from where it left off in 1997-1998 with A/C and R&B being dominant before 50 Cent arrived on the scene in real early Spring of 2003.

That's your opinion. I personally believe the downfall of music started around the late 1990s. But this is all subjective and relative anyway.

Anyone wanna feel older than they already are? Well as of the late 2010s the kids being born now are all core 20's kids. Those born in 2017-2019 will be 10-12 by 2029.

Well 2004-mid 2005 is when music was still decent. Even 2006-mid 2007 there was some decent stuff but there was stuff like ringtone rap which was bad.

1999-2000 was an oddity back then when Teen-Pop pretty much dominated in the media because of TRL. In 2001-early 2003 music pretty much picked off from where it left off in 1997-1998 with A/C and R&B being dominant before 50 Cent arrived on the scene in real early Spring of 2003.


Yeah, 2004-2005 music was alright. And early 2000s music was pretty much the same as late 1990s music for the most part. 1990s overall was alright with music. I don't think we've hit a decline until 2006 or so. But then things picked up again by around 2008-2012 for me.

I'm hoping I'll say "Welcome to the '20s" on New Year's Day 2020.

I'm hoping I'll say "Welcome to the '20s" on New Year's Day 2020.


The 2020s in name alone sounds like an interesting decade. As a nice ring to it, I suppose. Probably since it's the first decade to have a repeated number. Last time this happened was the 1010s. We won't see this again until the 3030s which is 1010 years from now. So, uh, I'll see you all in the next millennium.

Maybe I'm just being a bit too optimistic, but if we're going by history the 2020s may be pretty decent.


...and Early/Mid 2000s music is nowhere near as good as Early and Mid 90s music! :P


And early-mid 90s music is terrible when compared to early to mid 40s music.  8)

Lady Gaga's performance yesterday was a slay. The electropop era nostalgia is real. Let's skip the 2000s and get to it!

Lady Gaga's performance yesterday was a slay. The electropop era nostalgia is real. Let's skip the 2000s and get to it!


When it came to teen culture Electro Pop was on everyone's radio. People couldn't get enough of it. I can see Electropop nostalgia happening. Now I ask one question. Is Electropop still somewhat popular in the late 2010s? If not then why?

To be honest nothing. I'm actually getting a bit tired of comebacks. Now I know comebacks have been a thing since the 20th century, but what makes an era great is when they make their own original stuff. People always complain about how 21st century decades don't feel unique (for a reason I've explained in another thread) yet they're part of the problem since instead of the current decades doing something new they'd just prefer for them to bring back something from older decades. Reliving old stuff certainly won't make a time period unique. Now if we get new things that are influenced somewhat by old things then it's fine. But I wouldn't want a 100% revival of old stuff. Can't progress if pop culture keeps trying to move backwards.


That also has to do with pro-wrestling too as well.

Lady Gaga's performance yesterday was a slay. The electropop era nostalgia is real. Let's skip the 2000s and get to it!

Better not leave out emo, scene and pop punk while you're at it.

The 2020s in name alone sounds like an interesting decade. As a nice ring to it, I suppose. Probably since it's the first decade to have a repeated number. Last time this happened was the 1010s. We won't see this again until the 3030s which is 1010 years from now. So, uh, I'll see you all in the next millennium.

Oh yeah I haven't thought of it that way. That is pretty cool. I think it will be a fun decade.

When it came to teen culture Electro Pop was on everyone's radio. People couldn't get enough of it. I can see Electropop nostalgia happening. Now I ask one question. Is Electropop still somewhat popular in the late 2010s? If not then why?

Electropop never died and it still is popular now. Only difference is in the early 10s it was faster and actual dance music and it used a little more apparent autotune effects. These days finding a song on the radio that is at least 130 bpm is like winning the lottery.  :P

Oh yeah I haven't thought of it that way. That is pretty cool. I think it will be a fun decade.


I hope it's a fun decade. I don't think the 2010s is bad, but I do find it boring to me.  The 2010s has its fun moments, but lately it's been a bit boring for a while (at least to me. I'm sure my lack of praise for the current pop culture is mainly due to my own tastes). The 2020s will be an interesting decade. People start to take part into pop culture by the time they reach their late teens onward. So by the 2020s those born in the 1990s-2000s will probably be the mainstream pop cultural trend setters by the 2020s. So I can predict there will be a change in pop culture (at least when it comes to young/youth culture anyways, however, I'm not so sure for non-hip young culture). I'm also eager for economic growth that I see being predicted. Apparently history as a chance of repeating the 1920s or 1990s. Great economy can easily be accomplished with useful inventions that can enhance everyday life (due to so many people buying them and giving money to the economy which boost the economy and gives money back to the people. rinse and repeat.). In the 1920s there was things like the radio and automobiles that caused for the economy to be great due to high amounts of sales/popularity within the industries and the economy as a whole. For the 1990s it was the internet which is what caused for the economic boom of 1995 to ~2000. Now with the 2020s due to a lot of upcoming inventions that could boost everyday life some speculate that we may have another economic growth (whether or not it's an economic boom is still up in the air, but it'll be growth nonetheless). Cybernetic limbs, self driving cars, new updates of establish tech such as phones, medical advancements etc.

So the 2020s 'MIGHT' (I could easily be wrong) be a decent decade in terms of pop culture and economy which is why I'm eager for it. But it could easily end up being one of the worst decades if I'm dead wrong.


Electropop never died and it still is popular now. Only difference is in the early 10s it was faster and actual dance music and it used a little more apparent autotune effects. These days finding a song on the radio that is at least 130 bpm is like winning the lottery.  :P


I think this is probably just due to trends or something. I suppose people are now caught up in making music that sounds more emotional and thought provoking rather than music that will make your feet move in funky ways. I'm not expert on current music, but I actually haven't heard a lot of dance-y music as of late. Maybe I'm just listening to the wrong stuff or something.

Better not leave out emo, scene and pop punk while you're at it.


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Pop music? Don't you mean, fun, ring pops???  :D  :D  :D

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Lady Gaga's performance yesterday was a slay. The electropop era nostalgia is real. Let's skip the 2000s and get to it!


She made crustydonna (Madonna) look crusty!  8)  8)  8)

http://i.imgur.com/s79SkkJ.gif


FALSE! If you have Talent then you don't freakin' need luck.  8)


Pop music? Don't you mean, fun, ring pops???  :D  :D  :D

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I'm gonna turn Ring Pop into music. We have Pop music. I'm gonna make a genre called Candy Pop music. All the kids will love it.

FALSE! If you have Talent then you don't freakin' need luck.  8)

I'm gonna turn Ring Pop into music. We have Pop music. I'm gonna make a genre called Candy Pop music. All the kids will love it.


Fizzle pop!!!  :o

FALSE! If you have Talent then you don't freakin' need luck.  8)


How anyone can say that in this post-Brexit world where the Chainsmokers and Ed Sheeran are dominating the charts and talenT like Weeknd is not... Luck is everything!

How anyone can say that in this post-Brexit world where the Chainsmokers and Ed Sheeran are dominating the charts and talenT like Weeknd is not... Luck is everything!


Crap. The late 2010s is already looking bad for music. We're in a world where luck determines popularity.

Anyone seen this?
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It basically takes the AR (Augmented Reality) trend that we're having nowadays and showing us what the future will be like once AR and VR become extremely huge and become a part of the way we live.  I think it looks pretty neat, but it's crazy how in-your-face the marketing advertisings will be.

I present the future, kids.

Anyone seen this?

It basically takes the AR (Augmented Reality) trend that we're having nowadays and showing us what the future will be like once AR and VR become extremely huge and become a part of the way we live.  I think it looks pretty neat, but it's crazy how in-your-face the marketing advertisings will be.

I present the future, kids.


It looks super cool but it's making the assumption that people will still go outside when VR becomes a thing lol. Also who stabbed her in the end there :o Less reasons to go outside.

It looks super cool but it's making the assumption that people will still go outside when VR becomes a thing lol. Also who stabbed her in the end there :o Less reasons to go outside.


Well that video mainly shows AR not VR. Did you notice that no one in that video had any goggles on?

AR is a step above Virtual Reality. AR is the blending of virtual reality and real life, as developers can create images within applications that blend in with contents in the real world. With AR, users are able to interact with virtual contents in the real world, and are able to distinguish between the two. VR  is all about the creation of a virtual world that users can interact with. This virtual world should be designed in such a way that users would find it difficult to tell the difference from what is real and what is not. Furthermore, VR is usually achieved by the wearing of a VR helmet or goggles similar to the Oculus Rift.

Both virtual reality and augmented reality are similar in the goal of immersing the user, though both systems to this in different ways. With AR, users continue to be in touch with the real world while interacting with virtual objects around them. With VR, the user is isolated from the real world while immersed in a world that is completely fabricated. As it stands, VR might work better for video games and social networking in a virtual environment, such as Second Life, or even PlayStation Home.

On the matter of VR, the technology is just stepping up to the plate. It's still far away from being this great thing for social encounters in a virtual world, but with the rise of the Oculus Rift, it is getting there. Both AR and VR will succeed; however, AR might have more commercial success though, because it does not completely take people out of the real world.

Anyways AR is already more successful than VR and as time goes on could end up being a huge part of pop culture and everyday life.

As for why she was stabbed?  Don't know. But staying inside isn't any more safe. You could hurt yourself with a kitchen knife. Also people will still go outside with AR. VR is what will prevent people from going outside due to putting you into a Virtual World. AR will have you going through the Real World, but a Virtual layer on top of it. So you'd still go outside. Although I hope it won't be a hassle trying to figure out what is and isn't virtual to some.

But if she's not wearing glasses then how is she seeing all those things? :o

Another video by the same guy.
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This looks cool and scary at the same time.

But if she's not wearing glasses then how is she seeing all those things? :o


AR, remember? One way that is predicted is that in the future we'll all either have modified eyes or contact lenses that'll allows us to see Virtual things within the AR world. So she's probably is doing one of these two.  You can also use your phone (as of the 2010s), but I'm sure this method will become outdated in the future.

I'd live for AR-assisted cooking :o


AR, remember? One way that is predicted is that in the future we'll all either have modified eyes or contact lenses that'll allows us to see Virtual things within the AR world. So she's probably is doing one of these two.  You can also use your phone (as of the 2010s), but I'm sure this method will become outdated in the future.


Haha, yeah, I associate AR with phones for now. AR contact-lenses would be cool but I'm not sure we can fit a GPS, hard-drives and processors into contact-lenses anytime soon :o

I'd live for AR-assisted cooking :o


Same. You're making food and this virtual assisting chef pops up. Giving you directions on how to cook the food while also trying to advertise cooking tools to you.

"To make the smoothie you get the fruit and place it in the blender...............If you're in need of a blender why don't you try and order the Mega Shine Blender. Get it now for 10% off"

Listen to the virtual man or else you'll be stuck with your old 2002 blender can barely cut through rice paper. Give in the consumer society and let corporations take over your life. 8)

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This looks like an LSD trip  :o

I'd live for AR-assisted cooking :o

Haha, yeah, I associate AR with phones for now. AR contact-lenses would be cool but I'm not sure we can fit a GPS, hard-drives and processors into contact-lenses anytime soon :o

Maybe in like 15 years they can make contact lenses like this. I associate AR with Hololens and Google Glass.

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How about the style?

FALSE! If you have Talent then you don't freakin' need luck.  8)

I'm gonna turn Ring Pop into music. We have Pop music. I'm gonna make a genre called Candy Pop music. All the kids will love it.


What will that sound like?

What will that sound like?


It's similar to Bubble Gum Pop and will be something I'm sure would appeal to Preteens and teens. Very upbeat, dance able, high tempo etc. Basically like Bubble Gum Pop with a slight mix of Disco and/or Funk for that extra dance effect.

Get your bodies ready for Katy Perry to give LIFE to the putrid, rotting corpse of an era we call the late 2010s! The Queen of Pop is back!!

Get your bodies ready for Katy Perry to give LIFE to the putrid, rotting corpse of an era we call the late 2010s! The Queen of Pop is back!!


She'll have a new era and vibe this year.  :)

She'll have a new era and vibe this year.  :)


Katy Perry’s “Chained to the Rhythm” is the sonic crossroads between signature Perry staples such as “Last Friday Night” and “Birthday,” yet offers a glimpse at a grown, more aware pop singer. The superstar croons tales of dancing to the beat of “your favorite song,” lamenting the difficulty of breaking free of the world’s rhythm. Still, while the rest of the world’s pop giants are being outsourced to more obscure genres (think: Beyonce’s Lemonade and Lady Gaga’s Joanne), Perry provides just the pop anthem fans needed.

I really liked Gaga's Superbowl performance. It was dynamic.

I enjoy some of her music, but I don't consider myself a fan!

Katy Perry’s “Chained to the Rhythm” is the sonic crossroads between signature Perry staples such as “Last Friday Night” and “Birthday,” yet offers a glimpse at a grown, more aware pop singer. The superstar croons tales of dancing to the beat of “your favorite song,” lamenting the difficulty of breaking free of the world’s rhythm. Still, while the rest of the world’s pop giants are being outsourced to more obscure genres (think: Beyonce’s Lemonade and Lady Gaga’s Joanne), Perry provides just the pop anthem fans needed.

I think it's gonna be a flop. No one cares about Katy Perry these days.  :-X

I think it's gonna be a flop. No one cares about Katy Perry these days.  :-X


Her last song, Rise, did okay, went to #11. Kind of a disappointment though, because it's Katy Perry.

I think it's gonna be a flop. No one cares about Katy Perry these days.  :-X


The group of preteen girls I hang out with would like to disagree :-X

The group of preteen girls I hang out with would like to disagree :-X


We all know that when a person is a preteen they have terrible tastes. My tastes from when I was 11 certainly don't match what I like know.

We all know that when a person is a preteen they have terrible tastes. My tastes from when I was 11 certainly don't match what I like know.


Yeah but "flop" is implying it won't sell well.  :-X

My tastes from when I was 11 were pretty good though. Jordan would disagree but who cares.  :-X :-X

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The group of preteen girls I hang out with would like to disagree :-X


They were part of the hip, young, beige, crowd!  :o

They were part of the hip, young, beige, crowd!  :o


I'll always be hip, beat, and tough!

20 minutes until the late 2010s reach their zenith!

Did you see these #WOKE lyrics??


Are we crazy
Living our lives through a lens?
Trapped in our white picket fence
Like ornaments
So comfortable, we live in a bubble, a bubble
So comfortable, we can’t see the trouble, the trouble
Are you lonely
Trapped up there in utopia?
When nothing will ever be good enough
Like ornaments
So comfortable, we live in a bubble, a bubble
So comfortable, we can’t see the trouble, the trouble


Aha, look so good
So put your rose-colored glasses on and party on


Turn it up, it's your favorite song
Dance, dance, dance to the distortion
Come on, turn it up, keep it on repeat
Stumbling around like a wasted zombie
Yeah, we think we're free
Drink, this one is on me
We're all chained to the rhythm, to the rhythm, to the rhythm
Turn it up, it's your favorite song
Dance, dance, dance to the distortion
Come on, turn it up, keep it on repeat
Stumbling around like a wasted zombie
Yeah, we think we're free
Drink, this one is on me
We're all chained to the rhythm, to the rhythm, to the rhythm


Are we tone deaf?
Keep sweeping it under the mat
Thought we can do better than that
I hope we can
So comfortable, we live in a bubble, a bubble
So comfortable, we can’t see the trouble, the trouble


Aha, look so good (so good)
So put your rose-colored glasses on and party on


Turn it up, it's your favorite song
Dance, dance, dance to the distortion
Come on, turn it up, keep it on repeat
Stumbling around like a wasted zombie
Yeah, we think we're free
Drink, this one is on me
We're all chained to the rhythm, to the rhythm, to the rhythm
Turn it up, it's your favorite song
Dance, dance, dance to the distortion
Come on, turn it up, keep it on repeat
Stumbling around like a wasted zombie
Yeah, we think we're free
Drink, this one is on me
We're all chained to the rhythm, to the rhythm, to the rhythm


It is my desire
Break down the walls
To connect, inspire, yeah
Up in the high
Time is ticking for the empire
The truth is that it is feeble
I saw it many times before
The greed of all the people
We're stumbling, we're crumbling
We woke up, we woke up the lions


Turn it up, it's your favorite song
Dance, dance, dance to the distortion
Come on, turn it up, keep it on repeat
Stumbling around like a wasted zombie
Yeah, we think we're free
Drink, this one is on me
We're all chained to the rhythm, to the rhythm, to the rhythm


Turn it up
Turn it up
On and on and on
On and on and on
'Cause we're all chained to the rhythm