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Subject: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: exodus08 on 12/31/16 at 6:26 pm

I know some of you believe we entered the late '10s on September 1st, 2016 but I feel like January 1st, 2017 is the start of the late part of the decade (just my opinion). Anyways I'm excited that we're almost to the end of the decade and I'm looking forward to what the next three years brings to the table. I'm looking forward to see if we have a 90s dance revival in '17 just like the late 90s had a disco revival.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 12/31/16 at 6:33 pm

I'm mainly just sitting back to see how things within the economy and culture end up. Kind of curious to see the new trends in music and fashion especially.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: #Infinity on 12/31/16 at 6:44 pm


I'm mainly just sitting back to see how things within the economy and culture end up. Kind of curious to see the new trends in music and fashion especially.


Well, not much is changing on the latter two fronts. All we're getting in music is more trap rap, elementary school pop, and overexposed stars and starlets like Nick Jonas and Ariana Grande "maturing into sophisticated pop artists," as if they're today's equivalents of Prince and Janet Jackson. Fashion is pretty much more of the same schlocky "it's okay to be soft, rebellious, and individualistic" look that represents today's young generations who really want nothing more than to homogenize others into their own image of "diversity."

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: exodus08 on 12/31/16 at 6:45 pm


I'm mainly just sitting back to see how things within the economy and culture end up. Kind of curious to see the new trends in music and fashion especially.


Same here. I'm actually waiting to see what Trump does to America.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 12/31/16 at 6:55 pm

With Trump being our president in less than a month, he'll be the #1 thing when it comes to the late 2010s. At least for me.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 12/31/16 at 7:27 pm

I never considered September 1st, 2016 to be the beginning of the late 2010s. Not by a long shot. From a pop culture perspective, 2016 was mid 2010s culture on steroids. It's as if everything stagnated, and pop culture had no idea of what direction to head in next. I hope that sometime in 2017-2019,  music will improve and be fun to listen to again. I'm not sure whether movies and T.V. will change that much. But I would hope we see some sort of improvement in both. Hopefully hipster fashion dies out completely.
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Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 12/31/16 at 7:43 pm


I never considered September 1st, 2016 to be the beginning of the late 2010s. Not by a long shot. From a pop culture perspective, 2016 was mid 2010s culture on steroids. It's as if everything stagnated, and pop culture had no idea of what direction to head in next. I hope that sometime in 2017-2019,  music will improve and be fun to listen to again. I'm not sure whether movies and T.V. will change that much. But I would hope we see some sort of improvement in both. Hopefully hipster fashion dies out completely.
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Honestly, I'm not sure if 2017 would change quite yet for pop culture. Maybe late 2017/early 2018, but that's the least I could say about late 2000s culture transforming.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 12/31/16 at 7:48 pm


Honestly, I'm not sure if 2017 would change quite yet for pop culture. Maybe late 2017/early 2018, but that's the least I could say about late 2000s culture transforming.


I agree. I was mostly referring to 2017-2019 on the whole. Of course not much is going to change in 2017 alone. Maybe the 2017-2018 school year is when things will really start to change.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 12/31/16 at 7:56 pm


I agree. I was mostly referring to 2017-2019 on the whole. Of course not much is going to change in 2017 alone. Maybe the 2017-2018 school year is when things will really start to change.


Yeah. I think the 2017-2018 and 2018-2019 school years would be the peak of the late 2010s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: tv on 12/31/16 at 11:17 pm


Well, not much is changing on the latter two fronts. All we're getting in music is more trap rap, elementary school pop, and overexposed stars and starlets like Nick Jonas and Ariana Grande "maturing into sophisticated pop artists," as if they're today's equivalents of Prince and Janet Jackson. Fashion is pretty much more of the same schlocky "it's okay to be soft, rebellious, and individualistic" look that represents today's young generations who really want nothing more than to homogenize others into their own image of "diversity."
I was just gonna write something about Janet Jackson's first album released in 1982 or 1983 flopping real badly. I mean she was Michael's little sister back then and still her first album flopped that badly? She was known from The show "Different Strokes" by playing Willis's(Todd Bridges) girlfriend on the show as well. She had a whole lot of name equity before she became popular as a musical act herself in 1985-1986. To compare that today I mean no pop stars today have to go through a real bad flop of an album like Janet did back in the day before becoming popular. Probably had the "Control" album not caught in 1985 or 1986 Janet might have been just an occasional supporting actress but she had 2 great albums with "Control" in 1985-1986 and "Rhythm Nation 1814" in 1989!

Comparing Nick Jonas to Prince? No Please don't do that.

Ariana Grande-I think if you mixed Mariah Carey's and 1980's Janet Jackson's musical styles together you have Ariana Grande's style musically but she isn't as talented as Mariah or Janet. She has ways ways to go to get to Mariah's or Janet's talent level.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 12/31/16 at 11:22 pm


I was just gonna write something about Janet Jackson's first album released in 1982 or 1983 flopping real badly. I mean she was Michael's little sister back then and still her first album flopped that badly? She was known from The show "Different Strokes" by playing Willis's(Todd Bridges) girlfriend on the show as well. She had a whole lot of name equity before she became popular as a musical act herself in 1985-1986. To compare that today I mean no pop stars today have to go through a real bad flop of an album like Janet did back in the day before becoming popular. Probably had the "Control" album not caught in 1985 or 1986 Janet might have been just an occasional supporting actress but she had 2 great albums with "Control" in 1985-1986 and "Rhythm Nation 1814" in 1989!

Comparing Nick Jonas to Prince? No Please don't do that.

Ariana Grande-I think if you mixed Mariah Carey's and 1980's Janet Jackson's musical styles together you have Ariana Grande's style musically but she isn't as talented as Mariah or Janet. She has ways ways to go to get to Mariah's or Janet's talent level.


Janet's first two albums weren't great. Control was a stronger and more fitting sound for Janet, who has a rebellious, yet sweet side.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: the2001 on 12/31/16 at 11:24 pm


I know some of you believe we entered the late '10s on September 1st, 2016 but I feel like January 1st, 2017 is the start of the late part of the decade (just my opinion). Anyways I'm excited that we're almost to the end of the decade and I'm looking forward to what the next three years brings to the table. I'm looking forward to see if we have a 90s dance revival in '17 just like the late 90s had a disco revival.


The tone of the year quickly changed around late Aug- Sept

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 12/31/16 at 11:24 pm


I was just gonna write something about Janet Jackson's first album released in 1982 or 1983 flopping real badly. I mean she was Michael's little sister back then and still her first album flopped that badly? She was known from The show "Different Strokes" by playing Willis's(Todd Bridges) girlfriend on the show as well. She had a whole lot of name equity before she became popular as a musical act herself in 1985-1986. To compare that today I mean no pop stars today have to go through a real bad flop of an album like Janet did back in the day before becoming popular. Probably had the "Control" album not caught in 1985 or 1986 Janet might have been just an occasional supporting actress but she had 2 great albums with "Control" in 1985-1986 and "Rhythm Nation 1814" in 1989!

Comparing Nick Jonas to Prince? No Please don't do that.

Ariana Grande-I think if you mixed Mariah Carey's and 1980's Janet Jackson's musical styles together you have Ariana Grande's style musically but she isn't as talented as Mariah or Janet. She has ways ways to go to get to Mariah's or Janet's talent level.


Uh dude, you know that she was being sarcastic, right?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: the2001 on 12/31/16 at 11:25 pm


Yeah. I think the 2017-2018 and 2018-2019 school years would be the peak of the late 2010s.


Dont forget how early 1997 changed music right of the back with Spice Girls!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 12/31/16 at 11:30 pm


Dont forget how early 1997 changed music right of the back with Spice Girls!


That's more towards the late 90s. Although, the Spice Girls started the peak of the late 90s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: mxcrashxm on 12/31/16 at 11:31 pm

As we enter the next phase of this decade, I hope it's much better than the mid 10s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 12/31/16 at 11:33 pm


As we enter the next phase of this decade, I hope it's much better than the mid 10s.


Same.  ;)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: exodus08 on 12/31/16 at 11:44 pm

The early 10s (2010-2012) were much better than the mid 10s (2013-2016).

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: tv on 12/31/16 at 11:45 pm


Dont forget how early 1997 changed music right of the back with Spice Girls!
Yeah I think music will change especially because of Trump being President. In 2019-2021 we will get musical acts with angry music because they will be unhappy with a Trump Presidency. Its like Nirvana with Kurt Cobain hated everything 80's with the Reagan Era. Kurt kinda liked R.E.M. but that was about it I think as a far as his liking 80's music went. Kurt and Michael Stipe(lead singer of R.E.M.) I think did have a lot of respect for each other.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: mxcrashxm on 12/31/16 at 11:47 pm


The early 10s (2010-2012) were much better than the mid 10s (2013-2016).
I would add 2013 to the former list. It didn't truly have the atmosphere of the 2014-16 period. OTT, I agree.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 01/01/17 at 12:19 am

Happy late 2010s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: exodus08 on 01/01/17 at 12:21 am


Happy late 2010s.

Happy Late 2010s

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/01/17 at 12:25 am

I hope that Nintendo Switch is great and that I don't develop a tolerance to weed and drink.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: #Infinity on 01/01/17 at 2:05 am

Well, here we are. Hopefully things work out for the world in spite of all the crap that happened last year.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/01/17 at 5:43 am


Yeah I think music will change especially because of Trump being President. In 2019-2021 we will get musical acts with angry music because they will be unhappy with a Trump Presidency. Its like Nirvana with Kurt Cobain hated everything 80's with the Reagan Era. Kurt kinda liked R.E.M. but that was about it I think as a far as his liking 80's music went. Kurt and Michael Stipe(lead singer of R.E.M.) I think did have a lot of respect for each other.


I hope that might be the case with late 2010s/early 2020s music.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 01/01/17 at 5:49 am


I hope that might be the case with late 2010s/early 2020s music.


I don't. :( I love happy music! :D

Oh, and happy late 2010s and 2017 everyone!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/01/17 at 5:54 am


I don't. :( I love happy music! :D

Oh, and happy late 2010s and 2017 everyone!


Maybe there might be a few happy songs. Also, nice to see you after a while.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 01/01/17 at 5:57 am


Maybe there might be a few happy songs. Also, nice to see you after a while.


You too! Yeah, hopefully there will be a good variety of music to balance everything out.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Philip Eno on 01/01/17 at 5:58 am


Maybe there might be a few happy songs. Also, nice to see you after a while.
Bruno Mars always seems to have cheerful songs? Anyway songs with a cheerful beat to them?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 01/01/17 at 6:14 am


Bruno Mars always seems to have cheerful songs? Anyway songs with a cheerful beat to them?


His two most recent hits Uptown Funk and 24K Magic definitely have. He's had plenty of others too like Treasure, however, not all are like It Will Rain and When I Was Your Man. That doesn't mean the latter are sad songs though.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/01/17 at 6:16 am


His two most recent hits Uptown Funk and 24K Magic definitely have. He's had plenty of others too like Treasure, however, not all are like It Will Rain and When I Was Your Man. That doesn't mean the latter are sad songs though.


I don't think a lot of his songs are sad. Most of them have a positive atmosphere.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 01/01/17 at 6:18 am


I don't think a lot of his songs are sad. Most of them have a positive atmosphere.


I can't think of any that are sad, just saying not all are cheerful such as Grenade. It's definitely not a sad song, but I wouldn't really consider it a happy song either.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/01/17 at 6:44 am


I can't think of any that are sad, just saying not all are cheerful such as Grenade. It's definitely not a sad song, but I wouldn't really consider it a happy song either.


The tone of it seems rather negative, but not really depressive.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Philip Eno on 01/01/17 at 6:55 am


The tone of it seems rather negative, but not really depressive.
My knowledge of his songs is restricted to the ones that are usually played on the radio.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/01/17 at 3:12 pm


Same here. I'm actually waiting to see what Trump does to America.


What won't he do?  ::)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/01/17 at 3:34 pm

2017 will be an okay year for me, hopefully. But 2018 will be mine!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/01/17 at 4:43 pm


His two most recent hits Uptown Funk and 24K Magic definitely have. He's had plenty of others too like Treasure, however, not all are like It Will Rain and When I Was Your Man. That doesn't mean the latter are sad songs though.

Uptown Funk wasn't Bruno Mars' song. He was just featuring in it.


The early 10s (2010-2012) were much better than the mid 10s (2013-2016).

No the mid 10s were much better in my opinion. I couldn't stand the fake colourful dance pop era.


Honestly, I'm not sure if 2017 would change quite yet for pop culture. Maybe late 2017/early 2018, but that's the least I could say about late 2000s culture transforming.

Nobody knows. We will just have to wait and see.  :)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/01/17 at 4:51 pm

I am happy we are in the late 10s. I agree I wouldn't put late 2016 part of the late 10s, not because of a cultural reason, but because even numerically people say the late portion of the decade starts with the 7th year for the sake of simplicity. Anyways, I am hoping we will get better music this year. But so far songs are still really bad. I'm hoping this hipster stuff dies down as well, it's been in fashion for a very long time and overstayed its welcome. Most of all I am hoping this year we will be completely removed from the late 00s/early 10s and big changes happen to have an actual fresh new era. I'm pretty sure the late 10s will foreshadow what's to come in the 2020s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: TheKid99 on 01/01/17 at 11:25 pm

I would say for me I say the late 2010s started in late summer 2016... Pokemon Go and other games rising because of that really started a different attitude... and then DJTs shock victory...

July 2016 for me is the start of the late 2010s and or the beginning of the transition... but I will probably be proven wrong in hindsight.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 01/01/17 at 11:44 pm


Uptown Funk wasn't Bruno Mars' song. He was just featuring in it.
No the mid 10s were much better in my opinion. I couldn't stand the fake colourful dance pop era.
Nobody knows. We will just have to wait and see.  :)


Yeah, I know it was Mark Ronson's hit, but since Bruno was featured, I'd call it a hit for him too, know what I mean?

Kind of how I consider Love the Way You Lie an Eminem hit and a Rihanna hit.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: SpyroKev on 01/02/17 at 7:44 am

I can feel a change in atmosphere, strangely enough.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/02/17 at 8:11 am


I can feel a change in atmosphere, strangely enough.


We just got in 2017. Maybe it'll might happen around the middle of the year.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: KatanaChick on 01/02/17 at 9:37 am


I can feel a change in atmosphere, strangely enough.

How so?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: the2001 on 01/02/17 at 9:37 am


I can feel a change in atmosphere, strangely enough.


happened in Aug

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: the2001 on 01/02/17 at 9:38 am


How so?


The whole pokemon go/ whatever was happening between June-aug 2016 felt very
Late 1996 going into 1997 ish

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/02/17 at 9:45 am

I must be the only person on this board that likes "hipster" fashion. What kind of fashion is everyone hoping to emerge?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/02/17 at 9:48 am


I can feel a change in atmosphere, strangely enough.


I feel it too. Something different is in the air. I don't know of that something will herald good or bad things.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/02/17 at 10:05 am


The whole pokemon go/ whatever was happening between June-aug 2016 felt very
Late 1996 going into 1997 ish


More like late 1998 going into 1999, since North America wasn't introduced to Pokemon until then.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/02/17 at 2:39 pm


I can feel a change in atmosphere, strangely enough.


How so?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/02/17 at 2:40 pm


I must be the only person on this board that likes "hipster" fashion. What kind of fashion is everyone hoping to emerge?



afros, disco shirts and bell bottom pants. ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/02/17 at 2:56 pm


I can feel a change in atmosphere, strangely enough.


Hopefully it's not a war, or an economic downturn.  :P

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Catherine91UK on 01/02/17 at 3:13 pm

I'm thinking September 2008 to June 2016 was an 'era' in the UK, starting with the recession and ending with the EU referendum! I said in another thread that the mid 2010s ended on 23rd June.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 01/02/17 at 3:45 pm


I know some of you believe we entered the late '10s on September 1st, 2016 but I feel like January 1st, 2017 is the start of the late part of the decade (just my opinion). Anyways I'm excited that we're almost to the end of the decade and I'm looking forward to what the next three years brings to the table. I'm looking forward to see if we have a 90s dance revival in '17 just like the late 90s had a disco revival.


I agree.  The late '10s in my opinion began on January 1, 2017.  I think the culture late '10s won't start to take hold until mid or late this year.

I would totally be in favor of a EuroDance revival.  '90s eurodance was way better than mid '10s EDM-teen pop.  In terms of a disco revival, I don't think it was that strong in the late '90s.  However, there has been a strong disco revival in the mid '10s that I am not sure has run its course yet.  Wherever music goes, I hope the terrible Ariana Grande era ends soon.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/02/17 at 3:50 pm


I agree.  The late '10s in my opinion began on January 1, 2017.  I think the culture late '10s won't start to take hold until mid or late this year.


Yeah I agree.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: #Infinity on 01/02/17 at 5:02 pm

I would totally be in favor of a EuroDance revival.  '90s eurodance was way better than mid '10s EDM-teen pop.  In terms of a disco revival, I don't think it was that strong in the late '90s.

Actually, disco revival was huge in the UK around 1998 to 2000. It was not pronounced in the same way stateside at the time.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 01/02/17 at 5:14 pm


Actually, disco revival was huge in the UK around 1998 to 2000. It was not pronounced in the same way stateside at the time.


Good to know.  I guess its kind of in the same manner that eurodance fell out of favor in the U.S. around 1998 but stayed popular in Europe well into the 2000s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 01/03/17 at 1:35 am

As i've said before, I believe 2016 was not late 2010s, it was the logical ending to the mid 2010s. During 2015 I already saw a fair amount of "fu*k political correctness" sentiment (Milo Yiannopolous had his peak of popularity that year, not to mention the Mizzou and Yale incidents), as well as a feeling of our nation being divided, which reached its boiling point in 2016.

2017 may see us be united, or divided further. Liberalism could also go back to being the counterculture, rather than the mainstream like it's been for the past 10 or so years.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/03/17 at 3:29 am

Whatever music-culture-fashion that comes next is lurking around already.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/03/17 at 3:30 am



afros, disco shirts and bell bottom pants. ;D


I kind of wish I experienced the 70s. I think I would have enjoyed the disco era.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Philip Eno on 01/03/17 at 3:33 am


I kind of wish I experienced the 70s. I think I would have enjoyed the disco era.
Just think of "Saturday Night Fever".

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/03/17 at 3:42 am


Just think of "Saturday Night Fever".


I would be experiencing the Gay 70s. I'd probably be dancing at the Paradise Garage.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Philip Eno on 01/03/17 at 3:49 am


I would be experiencing the Gay 70s. I'd probably be dancing at the Paradise Garage.
Can I suggest Village People?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/03/17 at 3:57 am


Can I suggest Village People?


You may but there's way better material out there. :)

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Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/03/17 at 4:08 am

I'm hoping a poppy form of funky Vaporwave will take over.

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Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/03/17 at 4:14 am

We need a dance-funk revival period,

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Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/03/17 at 9:25 am


I'm thinking September 2008 to June 2016 was an 'era' in the UK, starting with the recession and ending with the EU referendum! I said in another thread that the mid 2010s ended on 23rd June.


Even as a Canadian, I'm more inclined to agree with this. Brexit was a huge event and changed the EU forever. There's been a lot of discord in Europe and the world since then :(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: #Infinity on 01/03/17 at 10:39 am


Even as a Canadian, I'm more inclined to agree with this. Brexit was a huge event and changed the EU forever. There's been a lot of discord in Europe and the world since then :(


Yeah, the UK most likely entered the cultural late 2010s sooner than America has or will. Up until November 8, most people thought a Trump victory was a total fantasy, even in spite of the UK voting in favor of Brexit.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/03/17 at 2:44 pm


I kind of wish I experienced the 70s. I think I would have enjoyed the disco era.


You would've liked Studio 54.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/03/17 at 2:45 pm


Can I suggest Village People?



I love The Village People.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/06/17 at 4:31 am

It's funny we're all waiting for people to make protests songs against Trump when one of the best protests songs in years was released last year. It was directed at Obama tho. The lyrics are beautiful. The singing makes it sound romantic when the song is from the point of view of a middle eastern girl being drone bombed.

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Lyrics:

Drone bomb me
Blow me from the mountains
And into the sea
Blow me from the side of the mountain
Blow my head off
Explode my crystal guts
Lay my purple on the grass

I have a glint in my eye
I think I want to die
I want to die
I want to be the apple of your eye

So drone bomb me
(Drone bomb me)
Blow me from the mountains
And into the sea
Blow me from the side of the mountain
Blow my head off
Explode my crystal guts
Lay my purple on the grass

Let me be the first
I’m not so innocent
Let me be the one
The one that you choose from above
After all, I’m partly to blame

So drone bomb me
(After all, I’m partly to blame)
Blow me from the mountains
And into the sea
Blow me from the mountains
And into the sea
(From the mountains and into the sea)
(I’m not so innocent)
Blow my head off
Explode my crystal guts

My blood, my blood
Choose me tonight
Let me be the one
The one that you choose tonight

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/06/17 at 7:47 am

I think in the late 2010-early 20's, we are definitely seeing more and more computers pop up in about everywhere you go from restaurants to department stores. Like in McDonald's they now have kiosks instead of ordering and talking to a live person, you punch in your food and you take the ticket up to the person and wait for the number to be called. And I also think customers in food stores are using more U-Scan machines instead of waiting in-line.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 01/07/17 at 3:37 am


Like in McDonald's they now have kiosks instead of ordering and talking to a live person, you punch in your food and you take the ticket up to the person and wait for the number to be called. And I also think customers in food stores are using more U-Scan machines instead of waiting in-line.


It's interesting that you say that, because I had a conversation with my Dad a few hours ago about how fast-food outlets still require you to talk to someone to order your food, whether's it's in-store or through the drive-thru. Just out of curiosity, how long have those kiosks roughly been in place for and do most McDonalds outlets in the US have them now? It's surprising to hear that they are starting to be implemented, because it means that there will be less job opportunities available for 15/16 year olds, who are applying for their first job.

On a somewhat related note, did anyone happen to hear about the products which have been showcased, at the tech expo which is currently on in California? Interestingly enough, a fair amount of the products showcased will be readily available to the public within the space of 6-12 months. Obviously it will take a bit of time for the general public to purchase these products, but it wouldn't surprise me if at least some of the products will have a significant influence on the next few years.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/07/17 at 7:03 am


It's interesting that you say that, because I had a conversation with my Dad a few hours ago about how fast-food outlets still require you to talk to someone to order your food, whether's it's in-store or through the drive-thru. Just out of curiosity, how long have those kiosks roughly been in place for and do most McDonalds outlets in the US have them now? It's surprising to hear that they are starting to be implemented, because it means that there will be less job opportunities available for 15/16 year olds, who are applying for their first job.

On a somewhat related note, did anyone happen to hear about the products which have been showcased, at the tech expo which is currently on in California? Interestingly enough, a fair amount of the products showcased will be readily available to the public within the space of 6-12 months. Obviously it will take a bit of time for the general public to purchase these products, but it wouldn't surprise me if at least some of the products will have a significant influence on the next few years.



Probably about a year so far, I think customers aren't really liking kiosks cause some people prefer live people to talk to instead of computers ordering your food for you. Maybe in the next couple of years, you won't see anymore live people, just robots and kiosks.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/07/17 at 11:33 am


It's interesting that you say that, because I had a conversation with my Dad a few hours ago about how fast-food outlets still require you to talk to someone to order your food, whether's it's in-store or through the drive-thru. Just out of curiosity, how long have those kiosks roughly been in place for and do most McDonalds outlets in the US have them now? It's surprising to hear that they are starting to be implemented, because it means that there will be less job opportunities available for 15/16 year olds, who are applying for their first job.

On a somewhat related note, did anyone happen to hear about the products which have been showcased, at the tech expo which is currently on in California? Interestingly enough, a fair amount of the products showcased will be readily available to the public within the space of 6-12 months. Obviously it will take a bit of time for the general public to purchase these products, but it wouldn't surprise me if at least some of the products will have a significant influence on the next few years.

Those kiosks have been in Mcdonalds for about a year now. I haven't followed the California event but I am following CES in Las Vegas.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: batfan2005 on 01/07/17 at 12:10 pm


The early 10s (2010-2012) were much better than the mid 10s (2013-2016).


Yeah, Mid 10's sucked. I feel like I can forget the whole era if I could. Right now still feels the same, but I have a feeling we will start to see changes in the middle of the year.


I would add 2013 to the former list. It didn't truly have the atmosphere of the 2014-16 period. OTT, I agree.


Early 2013 maybe, but late 2013 went with 2014-16. The summer of '13 was when things started to go downhill in my life, and in society/pop-culture.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/07/17 at 12:26 pm


Those kiosks have been in Mcdonalds for about a year now. I haven't followed the California event but I am following CES in Las Vegas.


CES gets more boring every year  :\'( Although I guess some of the VR stuff is cool.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/07/17 at 12:40 pm


Early 2013 maybe, but late 2013 went with 2014-16. The summer of '13 was when things started to go downhill in my life, and in society/pop-culture.

Yeah 2013 was a transitional year.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/07/17 at 12:40 pm


CES gets more boring every year  :\'( Although I guess some of the VR stuff is cool.

I find this year better than last, but I agree there is not much to look forward to anymore.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/07/17 at 12:55 pm


Those kiosks have been in Mcdonalds for about a year now. I haven't followed the California event but I am following CES in Las Vegas.


How are customers adapting to the kiosks?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/07/17 at 12:59 pm

Speaking of 'late'. I'm late for my weekly 'cycles'.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/07/17 at 1:01 pm


How are customers adapting to the kiosks?

I still see a lot of people in the regular line up. One drawback to the kiosks is you can't pay in cash, only works with debit or credit. I do still see people using the kiosks and a lot of them have adapted to it it seems.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/07/17 at 1:43 pm


I still see a lot of people in the regular line up. One drawback to the kiosks is you can't pay in cash, only works with debit or credit. I do still see people using the kiosks and a lot of them have adapted to it it seems.



I still rather be talking to a live person.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 01/07/17 at 11:15 pm


Yeah, Mid 10's sucked. I feel like I can forget the whole era if I could. Right now still feels the same, but I have a feeling we will start to see changes in the middle of the year.

The summer of '13 was when things started to go downhill in my life, and in society/pop-culture.

Bruh, I think the whole decade has kinda sucked. I've not been a big fan of the Obama era. There's not one year I've actually REALLY liked personal life or culturally. Maybe in 2017, that may change.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: batfan2005 on 01/08/17 at 8:43 am


Bruh, I think the whole decade has kinda sucked. I've not been a big fan of the Obama era. There's not one year I've actually REALLY liked personal life or culturally. Maybe in 2017, that may change.


I haven't been a fan either, and I think the decade as whole sucked as well. It made me appreciate and miss the 00's a lot more. But I will say that 2009-2012 was a lot better than 2013-2016 (or sucked less).

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/08/17 at 10:30 am


Bruh, I think the whole decade has kinda sucked. I've not been a big fan of the Obama era. There's not one year I've actually REALLY liked personal life or culturally. Maybe in 2017, that may change.


I didn't know you are having such a rough decade. Me too. I'm hoping that 2018 and after is a lot better for me. Although 2017 is already turning out okay for me.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/08/17 at 10:31 am


Bruh, I think the whole decade has kinda sucked. I've not been a big fan of the Obama era. There's not one year I've actually REALLY liked personal life or culturally. Maybe in 2017, that may change.


I don't think a lot of people like the 2010s, to be honest. Including myself, obviously.  :P

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/08/17 at 2:43 pm

I think after 2020, more Wi-Fi kiosks will continue to pop up, with these you'll be able to make 911 calls, browse the internet and recharge your phone.

https://assets.dnainfo.com/generated/photo/2016/01/linknyc-1452116339.jpg/extralarge.jpg

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/08/17 at 2:58 pm


I think after 2020, more Wi-Fi kiosks will continue to pop up, with these you'll be able to make 911 calls, browse the internet and recharge your phone.

https://assets.dnainfo.com/generated/photo/2016/01/linknyc-1452116339.jpg/extralarge.jpg


It's good that New York City is bringing that up now.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/08/17 at 3:25 pm


It's good that New York City is bringing that up now.


payphones are becoming obsolete

http://blog.tdstelecom.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/old-payphone.jpg

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/08/17 at 3:28 pm


payphones are becoming obsolete

http://blog.tdstelecom.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/old-payphone.jpg

They have a new purpose now, for people to take selfies with them and post it on Facebook like they are some ancient artifacts.  ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/08/17 at 4:35 pm


I haven't been a fan either, and I think the decade as whole sucked as well. It made me appreciate and miss the 00's a lot more. But I will say that 2009-2012 was a lot better than 2013-2016 (or sucked less).


I bow at the altar of 2008-2012. The 00s, while not as terrible as I thought, still weren't amazing as everyone makes it out to be. People say 2008-12 was fake? Really?? Do you honestly not remember the height of reality television? The height of teen pop? The height of the Axis of Evil? The height of hypersexualization of pop stars?

And now I'm back to hating the 2000s again.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/08/17 at 5:16 pm


I bow at the altar of 2008-2012. The 00s, while not as terrible as I thought, still weren't amazing as everyone makes it out to be. People say 2008-12 was fake? kedReally. Did you honestly not remember the height of reality television? The height of teen pop? The height of the Axis of Evil? The height of hypersexualization of pop stars?

And now I'm back to hating the 2000s again.


Hating the 2000s is as lame as bragging about the 90s, to be honest.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/08/17 at 5:43 pm


Hating the 2000s is as lame as bragging about the 90s, to be honest.


I do not brag about the 90s. I feel the 90s really aren't as amazing as people think they were. In fact, the 90s had a similar culture war the 2010s has. A lot of people forget that. We were just further right back then. Plus the internet wasn't as widespread so we weren't on our toes all the time while the culture war raged. I will admit that people were more socially conservative in the 90s. That part I didn't like. But ya know what? Much the 2000s were still the worst parts of the 90s magnified.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/08/17 at 6:05 pm


I bow at the altar of 2008-2012. The 00s, while not as terrible as I thought, still weren't amazing as everyone makes it out to be. People say 2008-12 was fake? kedReally. Did you honestly not remember the height of reality television? The height of teen pop? The height of the Axis of Evil? The height of hypersexualization of pop stars?

And now I'm back to hating the 2000s again.

I only like the 2000s because I grew up in that decade and have good memories. But realistically looking back the 2000s, it was just as shallow as the 2010s. Music was still about sex and drugs, materialism was still high, and people were still addicted to technology, just in different ways. The 1990s didn't have as many problems in this respect.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: LyricBoy on 01/08/17 at 6:09 pm


Hating the 2000s is as lame as bragging about the 90s, to be honest.


They both sucked. We haven't had a great decade since the 70's.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/08/17 at 6:39 pm


I only like the 2000s because I grew up in that decade and have good memories. But realistically looking back the 2000s, it was just as shallow as the 2010s. Music was still about sex and drugs, materialism was still high, and people were still addicted to technology, just in different ways. The 1990s didn't have as many problems in this respect.


So... the Gulf War, the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, the 1994 O.J. Simpson trial, and the 1999 Columbine High School mass shooting don't count?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/08/17 at 6:42 pm


So... the Gulf War, the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, the 1994 O.J. Simpson trial, and the 1999 Columbine High School mass shooting don't count?

No as they have nothing to do with materialism and technology. Those are separate issues. There isn't a decade in history without bombings and mass shootings.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/08/17 at 6:46 pm


They both sucked. We haven't had a great decade since the 70's.


Politically, I don't think a lot of decades were good.


No as they have nothing to do with materialism and technology. Those are separate issues. There is not a decade in history without bombings and mass shootings.


So? The 90s weren't that great with technology, aside from the debut of DVDs and satellite TV.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/08/17 at 6:46 pm


No as they have nothing to do with materialism and technology. Those are separate issues. There isn't a decade in history without bombings and mass shootings.


What about 10,000 BC? ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/08/17 at 6:47 pm

The 1980's are way better than the 1970's in my opinion. The 1990's are pretty good, pop culturally.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/08/17 at 6:57 pm


I only like the 2000s because I grew up in that decade and have good memories. But realistically looking back the 2000s, it was just as shallow as the 2010s. Music was still about sex and drugs, materialism was still high, and people were still addicted to technology, just in different ways. The 1990s didn't have as many problems in this respect.


There are  a few things the 2000s had (or had less of) that the 90s didn't have.

(off the top of my head)
No west coast vs east coast bullsheesh
Less hardcore gangster bullsheesh
No "if you wear black and listen to Marilyn Manson, you worship Satan and should be blamed whenever a murder occurs."
The 20 yr obsession with ballads ends
Better technology (in fact, the adless aspect makes the 00s arguably better than the 10s in this respect imo)
No popular Eurotrash music
Better cars - people started getting rid of their hoopties that been around since the 60s/70s/80s

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 01/08/17 at 7:08 pm

The 00's were such a sh!tty decade that I don't see how anyone can defend it. People were just as mindless then as they are now.

The 80's, however, are the best. 

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/08/17 at 7:14 pm


The 00's were such a sh!tty decade that I don't see how anyone can defend it. People were just as mindless then as they are now.

The 80's, however, are the best.


That's the thing. Everyone thinks the decade of their childhood is the best eva. (I'm assuming you were born in 1982)

Everyone is trying to get back to the good ol days of childhood.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/08/17 at 7:19 pm


That's the thing. Everyone thinks the decade of their childhood is the best eva. (I'm assuming you were born in 1982)

Everyone is trying to get back to the good ol days of childhood.


Except me. I'm born 1993 and realize the 2000s were terrible, or at least really mediocre ;D

All hail my objectivity!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 01/08/17 at 7:20 pm


That's the thing. Everyone thinks the decade of their childhood is the best eva. (I'm assuming you were born in 1982)

Everyone is trying to get back to the good ol days of childhood.


But I'm not really that nostalgic for my childhood like everyone else here. Like, at all. If you read my nostalgic posts, they're usually about the 90's and early 00's. I love the 80's but it's for the things I didn't experience first hand like the alt. rock and skateboarding, not for the days when it was my sisters turn to watch TV and we were stuck with Rainbow Brite.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/08/17 at 7:25 pm


What about 10,000 BC? ;D

Sticks and stones  ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/08/17 at 7:25 pm


Except me. I'm born 1993 and realize the 2000s were terrible, or at least really mediocre ;D

All hail my objectivity!


Just to be clear, I define childhood as ages 3 through 11. So, you began your childhood in 96/97 and entered your preteen years when I graduated (05).

What made you dislike your childhood?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 01/08/17 at 7:25 pm


Sticks and stones  ;D


https://img.discogs.com/Nt36XPtxDaGRoUWXkjwwjbe5xh4=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-3715661-1352560848-2464.jpeg.jpg

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/08/17 at 7:29 pm


But I'm not really that nostalgic for my childhood like everyone else here. Like, at all. If you read my nostalgic posts, they're usually about the 90's and early 00's. I love the 80's but it's for the things I didn't experience first hand like the alt. rock and skateboarding, not for the days when it was my sisters turn to watch TV and we were stuck with Rainbow Brite.


I don't think those people are as different as you think, but I get your point.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/08/17 at 7:37 pm


Just to be clear, I define childhood as ages 3 through 11. So, you began your childhood in 96/97 and entered your preteen years when I graduated (05).

What made you dislike your childhood?


Oh, nevermind then, I liked those years :-[ (except 2004)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 01/08/17 at 7:38 pm

Yeah, 2004 was lame! :P

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/08/17 at 7:40 pm


Sticks and stones  ;D

Even though you swear that you are true I'd still pick my friends over you.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: tv on 01/08/17 at 8:25 pm


I agree.  The late '10s in my opinion began on January 1, 2017.  I think the culture late '10s won't start to take hold until mid or late this year.

I would totally be in favor of a EuroDance revival.  '90s eurodance was way better than mid '10s EDM-teen pop.  In terms of a disco revival, I don't think it was that strong in the late '90s.  However, there has been a strong disco revival in the mid '10s that I am not sure has run its course yet.  Wherever music goes, I hope the terrible Ariana Grande era ends soon.
Ariana Grande might be gone by 2019 or the lastest 2021 but you never know since Rihanna has been has been around 11-12 years now and I doubt a lot of people would have thought in late 2005/early 2006 that Rihanna would still be relevant in 2016/2017.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/08/17 at 8:32 pm


It's funny we're all waiting for people to make protests songs against Trump when one of the best protests songs in years was released last year. It was directed at Obama tho. The lyrics are beautiful. The singing makes it sound romantic when the song is from the point of view of a middle eastern girl being drone bombed.

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Lyrics:

Drone bomb me
Blow me from the mountains
And into the sea
Blow me from the side of the mountain
Blow my head off
Explode my crystal guts
Lay my purple on the grass

I have a glint in my eye
I think I want to die
I want to die
I want to be the apple of your eye

So drone bomb me
(Drone bomb me)
Blow me from the mountains
And into the sea
Blow me from the side of the mountain
Blow my head off
Explode my crystal guts
Lay my purple on the grass

Let me be the first
I’m not so innocent
Let me be the one
The one that you choose from above
After all, I’m partly to blame

So drone bomb me
(After all, I’m partly to blame)
Blow me from the mountains
And into the sea
Blow me from the mountains
And into the sea
(From the mountains and into the sea)
(I’m not so innocent)
Blow my head off
Explode my crystal guts

My blood, my blood
Choose me tonight
Let me be the one
The one that you choose tonight


Woah, that's powerful imagery. The girl doesn't look Middle Eastern or South Asian though, I think the drone bombs is more of a metaphor for something else? More personal guilt and shame, hence why she's asking to be drone bombed. It doesn't sound like a political protest to me, although the imagery invokes a negative view of drone bombs. Good song nonetheless.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/08/17 at 8:36 pm


Ariana Grande might be gone by 2019 or the lastest 2021 but you never know since Rihanna has been has been around 11-12 years now and I doubt a lot of people would have thought in late 2005/early 2006 that Rihanna would still be relevant in 2016/2017.


Ariana is very young and still has a long career ahead of her, I don't think she's anywhere near her peak, unfortunately for Chris ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: tv on 01/08/17 at 8:40 pm


Ariana is very young and still has a long career ahead of her, I don't think she's anywhere near her peak, unfortunately for Chris ;D
That's what some 80's singers thought but by the time the 90's(1991-1992 to be exact) came around their career was gone.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/08/17 at 9:02 pm


Woah, that's powerful imagery. The girl doesn't look Middle Eastern or South Asian though, I think the drone bombs is more of a metaphor for something else? More personal guilt and shame, hence why she's asking to be drone bombed. It doesn't sound like a political protest to me, although the imagery invokes a negative view of drone bombs. Good song nonetheless.


The video doesn't match lyrics. I'm not sure what the video is saying tbh. The "singer" is Naomi Campbell. The actual singer in Anohni.

http://media2.intoday.in/indiatoday/images/stories/oscar-story_647_022616080050.jpg

Here's an explanation of the song from Spin magazine.

“It’s a love song from the perspective of a girl in Afghanistan, say a 9-year-old girl whose family’s been killed by a drone bomb,” ANOHNI explained to Mac. “She is kind of looking up at the sky and she’s gotten herself to a place where she just wants to be killed by a drone bomb too.”
http://www.spin.com/2016/03/anohni-drone-bomb-me-new-song-annie-mac-hopelessness-naomi-campbell-music-video-stream/

Here are the lyrics and video of another song from the same album. Waaay less romantic and catchy.

pVD50Q114-s

The world cried for joy
We thought we had empowered
The truth-telling envoy

Now the news is you are spying
Executing without trial
Betraying virtues
Scarring closed the sky

Punishing the whistle blowers
Those who tell the truth
Do you recognize the yellow
Staring back at you?

Obama
Obama
Obama
Obama

Obama
Obama
Obama
Obama

All the hope drained from your face
Like children we believed
All the hope drained from your face
Obama


Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 01/08/17 at 9:05 pm


Ariana is very young and still has a long career ahead of her, I don't think she's anywhere near her peak, unfortunately for Chris ;D


That may be, but she won't have the same sound as she does right now. If she is still relevant in like 2019 or 2020 (which is still up in the air), she'll probably just switch to whatever is popular at that point.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 01/08/17 at 9:06 pm


That's what some 80's singers thought but by the time the 90's(1991-1992 to be exact) came around their career was gone.


Good point. Ariana seems very geared towards mid-2010s pop music. Unless she changes her sound, she will definitely not remain relevant in the next few years.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/08/17 at 9:21 pm


Good point. Ariana seems very geared towards mid-2010s pop music. Unless she changes her sound, she will definitely not remain relevant in the next few years.


Ariana's music is so forgettable I don't even hate or dislike it. It's that forgettable.

Pop music outside of the early 10s is pretty forgettable. God, I'm gonna hate the 2030s when people become nostalgic for 2010s music.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/08/17 at 9:45 pm


That's what some 80's singers thought but by the time the 90's(1991-1992 to be exact) came around their career was gone.


That may be, but she won't have the same sound as she does right now. If she is still relevant in like 2019 or 2020 (which is still up in the air), she'll probably just switch to whatever is popular at that point.


Oh yeah, for sure. She's a pop diva, so she just follows the trends. I'm sure she'll "mature" and "grow as an artist" and her song will sound like everyone else's, even in 2020 ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/08/17 at 9:58 pm


The video doesn't match lyrics. I'm not sure what the video is saying tbh. The "singer" is Naomi Campbell. The actual singer in Anohni.

http://media2.intoday.in/indiatoday/images/stories/oscar-story_647_022616080050.jpg

Here's an explanation of the song from Spin magazine.

“It’s a love song from the perspective of a girl in Afghanistan, say a 9-year-old girl whose family’s been killed by a drone bomb,” ANOHNI explained to Mac. “She is kind of looking up at the sky and she’s gotten herself to a place where she just wants to be killed by a drone bomb too.”
http://www.spin.com/2016/03/anohni-drone-bomb-me-new-song-annie-mac-hopelessness-naomi-campbell-music-video-stream/

Here are the lyrics and video of another song from the same album. Waaay less romantic and catchy.

pVD50Q114-s

The world cried for joy
We thought we had empowered
The truth-telling envoy

Now the news is you are spying
Executing without trial
Betraying virtues
Scarring closed the sky

Punishing the whistle blowers
Those who tell the truth
Do you recognize the yellow
Staring back at you?

Obama
Obama
Obama
Obama

Obama
Obama
Obama
Obama

All the hope drained from your face
Like children we believed
All the hope drained from your face
Obama


You weren't kidding about it being less catchy ;D It sounded like a religious chant rather than singing.  :-X :-X

The drone bomb song was good, though, I think, it would be better off advertised as an allegorical white person love song. I know some people who'd be offended by the idea of wanting to be drone bombed, through the eyes of an Afghan girl.  :-X

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/08/17 at 10:01 pm


Ariana's music is so forgettable I don't even hate or dislike it. It's that forgettable.

Pop music outside of the early 10s is pretty forgettable. God, I'm gonna hate the 2030s when people become nostalgic for 2010s music.


I'm going to be nostalgic for the 2010s. I already know it. I already miss university from 2011-2014 and it's only been two years  ;D

2016 is perfect nostalgia bait too, despite how rough the year was. Pokémon GO, Zootopia, Game of Thrones and Sia are my weak spots  :-X

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/08/17 at 10:29 pm


I'm going to be nostalgic for the 2010s. I already know it. I already miss university from 2011-2014 and it's only been two years  ;D

2016 is perfect nostalgia bait too, despite how rough the year was. Pokémon GO, Zootopia, Game of Thrones and Sia are my weak spots  :-X


That's enough of your slick oils salesman tricks!  >:(  >:(  >:(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 01/08/17 at 10:33 pm


That's the thing. Everyone thinks the decade of their childhood is the best eva. (I'm assuming you were born in 1982)

Everyone is trying to get back to the good ol days of childhood.


I certainly don't. Being born in 1999, you would expect me (or anyone my age, in a general sense) to love the 2000s and think it was the best decade there has ever been. I personally believe the 90s are the best decade, although I generally don't dislike any period between the Late 60s-Late 90s. However, with that being said, i'm not really a fan of the Late 70s or the 80s (especially the Early 80s), but I still believe they are better than the 2000s, culturally speaking.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 01/09/17 at 6:31 am


That's the thing. Everyone thinks the decade of their childhood is the best eva. (I'm assuming you were born in 1982)

Everyone is trying to get back to the good ol days of childhood.



Pretty much. Someone would say that the 1990s were the best. While that person's parents would say the 1970s/1980s. While that same person's grandparents would say the 1960s etc etc. In all honesty I don't have a favorite decade. I base my love on the culture of a decade and how well my personal life was. I do love the late 1990s/early 2000s (1998-2002/3) and also the early 2010s (2010-2012/13) in terms of pop culture that I've ever lived through. But I'm also a fan of 1920s, 1930s, and 1940s culture as well. And I'm a bit optimistic for the 2020s. 

I say all this since I realized that my childhood did not have a majority of my happiest moments which is why I can't say that my childhood was the best era. But hey it's all based on opinions, right?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/09/17 at 10:25 am



Pretty much. Someone would say that the 1990s were the best. While that person's parents would say the 1970s/1980s. While that same person's grandparents would say the 1960s etc etc. In all honesty I don't have a favorite decade. I base my love on the culture of a decade and how well my personal life was. I do love the late 1990s/early 2000s (1998-2002/3) and also the early 2010s (2010-2012/13) in terms of pop culture that I've ever lived through. But I'm also a fan of 1920s, 1930s, and 1940s culture as well. And I'm a bit optimistic for the 2020s. 

I say all this since I realized that my childhood did not have a majority of my happiest moments which is why I can't say that my childhood was the best era. But hey it's all based on opinions, right?


We like the same eras, right down to the 1920s-1940 obsession  :D ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 01/09/17 at 11:16 am


We like the same eras, right down to the 1920s-1940 obsession  :D ;D


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Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/09/17 at 11:22 am


We like the same eras, right down to the 1920s-1940 obsession  :D ;D


And Hitler years too.  :o   

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/09/17 at 2:10 pm


And Hitler years too.  :o 


1946-1949 weren't Hitler years, lol.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/09/17 at 2:27 pm


And Hitler years too.  :o 


I don't want to relive the Great Depression or WW2, but I still find those eras and even Nazi Germany very fascinating. I listened to a 55 hour audiobook, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William L. Shirer, then I read the diary of Anne Frank, and there's a book on the Warsaw Ghetto that I want to borrow from the library.

For the 1930s, I enjoyed reading Angela's Ashes by Frank McCourt, a fictionalized autobiography about a kid born 1930 growing up during the Great Depression and 1940s in Ireland. Then there's Growing Up by Russel Baker, a Pulitzer prize winning autobiography, from a kid born 1925, about growing up in the Depression in the rural north.

For the 1920s, there's obviously The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald. Really, anything by Fitzgerald and Hemmingway fits right in with the 1920s. There's also this other book I've been meaning to buy, it's $2 on the Kobo/Kindle Store, 've Got Some Lovin' To Do: The Diaries Of A Roaring Twenties Teen, 1925-1926 by Julia Park Tracey. :D


1946-1949 weren't Hitler years, lol.


Funnily enough, those are the 1940s years I don't care for.  ;D (although the WW2 trials were interesting)

Late 1940s/1950s are boring. It doesn't get interesting again until right at 1960, in my opinion ;D 1960s are probably my favourite "modern" decade.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 01/09/17 at 2:43 pm

Only a few weeks until the God Emperor's inauguration!

In my eyes, that'll be the "official beginning" of the late 2010s (though I'm sure Slim and Slowpoke will disagree, but that's because you're in Canada. :P Our American antics don't matter to you).

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/09/17 at 2:59 pm


No as they have nothing to do with materialism and technology. Those are separate issues. There isn't a decade in history without bombings and mass shootings.


You can't go a day without hearing about mass shootings and bombings these days.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/09/17 at 3:27 pm


Only a few weeks until the God Emperor's inauguration!

In my eyes, that'll be the "official beginning" of the late 2010s (though I'm sure Slim and Slowpoke will disagree, but that's because you're in Canada. :P Our American antics don't matter to you).


The late 2010s will see the collapse of the US, and the instalment of Canada as the world's sole superpower! Soon, your cultural eras will be defined by our politics and not the other way around.

Watch yo selves.

https://amcatholic.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/us_future_map1.gif

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/09/17 at 4:08 pm


The late 2010s will see the collapse of the US, and the instalment of Canada as the world's sole superpower! Soon, your cultural eras will be defined by our politics and not the other way around.

Watch yo selves.


That would be awesome.  :D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/09/17 at 4:24 pm


I don't want to relive the Great Depression or WW2, but I still find those eras and even Nazi Germany very fascinating. I listened to a 55 hour audiobook, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William L. Shirer, then I read the diary of Anne Frank, and there's a book on the Warsaw Ghetto that I want to borrow from the library.

For the 1930s, I enjoyed reading Angela's Ashes by Frank McCourt, a fictionalized autobiography about a kid born 1930 growing up during the Great Depression and 1940s in Ireland. Then there's Growing Up by Russel Baker, a Pulitzer prize winning autobiography, from a kid born 1925, about growing up in the Depression in the rural north.

For the 1920s, there's obviously The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald. Really, anything by Fitzgerald and Hemmingway fits right in with the 1920s. There's also this other book I've been meaning to buy, it's $2 on the Kobo/Kindle Store, 've Got Some Lovin' To Do: The Diaries Of A Roaring Twenties Teen, 1925-1926 by Julia Park Tracey. :D

Funnily enough, those are the 1940s years I don't care for.  ;D (although the WW2 trials were interesting)

Late 1940s/1950s are boring. It doesn't get interesting again until right at 1960, in my opinion ;D 1960s are probably my favourite "modern" decade.


I believe people wanted things to be boring from the mid-40's to 1950's. People needed a breather after the Depression and huge war.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/09/17 at 4:27 pm

Speaking of the late 10s, 2017 is already looking like a great year so far for me. My schedule at university is perfect, nice and easy course load unlike last semester, and I'm making a lot of personal discoveries this year. It's still too early but so far things are going great for my personal life, much better than 2016. Let's hope pop culture improves as well.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/09/17 at 4:29 pm


That would be awesome.  :D


The US collapsing or Canada becoming a superpower? ;D


I believe people wanted things to be boring from the mid-40's to 1950's. People needed a breather after the Depression and huge war.


Yeah, that's why they suck.  :-X

I'm a huge fan of turbulence, disruption and change. That's why I like the 2010s.  :-X :-X :-X

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/09/17 at 4:33 pm


Speaking of the late 10s, 2017 is already looking like a great year so far for me. My schedule at university is perfect, nice and easy course load unlike last semester, and I'm making a lot of personal discoveries this year. It's still too early but so far things are going great for my personal life, much better than 2016. Let's hope pop culture improves as well.



Niiice. What kind of discoveries?  ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/09/17 at 4:34 pm


The US collapsing or Canada becoming a superpower? ;D

Yeah, that's why they suck.  :-X

I'm a huge fan of turbulence, disruption and change. That's why I like the 2010s.  :-X :-X :-X

Canada being a superpower! I would feel bad for the Americans who didn't vote for Trump though.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/09/17 at 4:34 pm



Niiice. What kind of discoveries?  ;D

Just some new interests, new hobbies, new friends, all that fun stuff lol.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/09/17 at 4:36 pm


The US collapsing or Canada becoming a superpower? ;D

Yeah, that's why they suck.  :-X

I'm a huge fan of turbulence, disruption and change. That's why I like the 2010s.  :-X :-X :-X


I like the 1950's. I love the fashion, Elvis, and Marilyn. The music. It was quite boring compared to  the 1940's (first half) and the 1960's.

Do you think the 00's was boring?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/09/17 at 4:37 pm


Just some new interests, new hobbies, new friends, all that fun stuff lol.


Do these "interests", "hobbies" and "fun stuff" by any chance include anything to do with VR?

http://i.imgur.com/Ohurhzc.gif

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/09/17 at 4:40 pm


Speaking of the late 10s, 2017 is already looking like a great year so far for me. My schedule at university is perfect, nice and easy course load unlike last semester, and I'm making a lot of personal discoveries this year. It's still too early but so far things are going great for my personal life, much better than 2016. Let's hope pop culture improves as well.


I'm glad things are going great for you. Pop culture right now, though, is.....

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Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/09/17 at 4:49 pm


I like the 1950's. I love the fashion, Elvis, and Marilyn. The music. It was quite boring compared to  the 1940's (first half) and the 1960's.

Do you think the 00's was boring?


1950s fashion is pure class, although I have a slight preference for the 1940s. Marilyn Monroe is amazing, she was provocative for her time :D

The late 1950s was when the music got good, and that would set up the awesome music of the 1960s :D

I think "bland" is a better word for the 2000s rather than boring. It's a decade that didn't really excel at anything, and was really terrible in some parts. I liked the TV shows though, especially the second half of the decade. The video games were good too, despite my preference for the '90s in that department, but what the '90s didn't have was all those good handheld games, those are almost purely 2000s. The technology was good for its time too, but unlike most on this board, I prefer things to be high tech as possible, so the 2010s is best in that category. ;D

I'm guessing the 1980s is your favourite decade, given your previous username :P

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/09/17 at 4:56 pm


1950s fashion is pure class, although I have a slight preference for the 1940s. Marilyn Monroe is amazing, she was provocative for her time :D

The late 1950s was when the music got good, and that would set up the awesome music of the 1960s :D

I think "bland" is a better word for the 2000s rather than boring. It's a decade that didn't really excel at anything, and was really terrible in some parts. I liked the TV shows though, especially the second half of the decade. The video games were good too, despite my preference for the '90s in that department, but what the '90s didn't have was all those good handheld games, those are almost purely 2000s. The technology was good for its time too, but unlike most on this board, I prefer things to be high tech as possible, so the 2010s is best in that category. ;D

I'm guessing the 1980s is your favourite decade, given your previous username :P


Pretty much the mid to late 50's was when mainstream music became bearable. I'd say it set up the mainstream to be great all the way up until the late 90's/early 00's. I don't know how it works though, it was like once rock and roll was out of its cage in the late 50's it set up some sort of snowball effect, for decades!  :o

Then came sexney Spears in 1999 and music went downhill, or at least started to!  :-X  :-X

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 01/09/17 at 5:18 pm

80's are the best decade of all time!!! After that, it's split into random time periods: 1990-1995 is a very, very close second, 1996-2002 is third and everything afterwards sucks. :P


Then came sexney Spears in 1999 and music went downhill, or at least started to!  :-X  :-X


But at least Britney was a total hottie in 2000-2003. :D I remember seeing her videos on TV... What a sight to see!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/09/17 at 5:19 pm


Pretty much the mid to late 50's was when mainstream music became bearable. I'd say it set up the mainstream to be great all the way up until the late 90's/early 00's. I don't know how it works though, it was like once rock and roll was out of its cage in the late 50's it set up some sort of snowball effect, for decades!  :o

Then came sexney Spears in 1999 and music went downhill, or at least started to!  :-X  :-X


I actually like most 1950s music. I like jazz. It wasn't very innovative or new until the very end, though. But honestly, I haven't sampled many songs to say that with authority.

You don't like jazz? ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/09/17 at 5:31 pm


Do these "interests", "hobbies" and "fun stuff" by any chance include anything to do with VR?

http://i.imgur.com/Ohurhzc.gif

It's part of it.  ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/09/17 at 5:43 pm


80's are the best decade of all time!!! After that, it's split into random time periods: 1990-1995 is a very, very close second, 1996-2002 is third and everything afterwards sucks. :P

But at least Britney was a total hottie in 2000-2003. :D I remember seeing her videos on TV... What a sight to see!


You really know how to rank them, don't you?  ;D  ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/09/17 at 5:48 pm

Jazz isn't horrible. It's not my favorite though.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/09/17 at 5:55 pm


Jazz isn't horrible. It's not my favorite though.


This song made me depressed for like a week

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Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/09/17 at 5:55 pm


I certainly don't. Being born in 1999, you would expect me (or anyone my age, in a general sense) to love the 2000s and think it was the best decade there has ever been. I personally believe the 90s are the best decade, although I generally don't dislike any period between the Late 60s-Late 90s. However, with that being said, i'm not really a fan of the Late 70s or the 80s (especially the Early 80s), but I still believe they are better than the 2000s, culturally speaking.


I know what you mean SharksFan, but to clarify, I'm talking about the decades within your lifetime.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 01/10/17 at 1:54 am


That's the thing. Everyone thinks the decade of their childhood is the best eva. (I'm assuming you were born in 1982)

Everyone is trying to get back to the good ol days of childhood.


I personally don't think there is a 'best' decade ever, but in terms of fashion and music, my favorite at the moment is the 1940s, because of the Jazz! :D (close ones are the 1930s and 1950s, although rock started getting popular around 55 which I'm not a fan of most of the rock from then) I would never want to live then though, because of WWII, of course, why live back then when I can use the technology of today to listen to the music and look things up about it?

I'll admit I get nostalgic for things from the 2000s, but that's because I was alive then, I don't experience extreme amounts of nostalgia anymore though, usually it's small amounts since I'm listening to music from every decade back to the 1890s, and playing video games from any decade which means I'm still hearing and playing the same things from my childhood as well as newer and older stuff.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 01/10/17 at 9:45 am


But I will say that 2009-2012 was a lot better than 2013-2016 (or sucked less).

I actually would have liked it,  if I had been in my early 20s at that time instead of a teen...

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 01/10/17 at 9:47 am


That's the thing. Everyone thinks the decade of their childhood is the best eva. (I'm assuming you were born in 1982)

Everyone is trying to get back to the good ol days of childhood.

Exactly. Which is why enjoyed the 00s WAY MORE than the early 10s. Any day of the week...

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/10/17 at 10:43 am


I actually would have liked it,  if I had been in my early 20s at that time instead of a teen...


Or at least a college student. The early 10s were only great if you were a young adult, imo.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 01/10/17 at 10:53 am


Or at least a college student. The early 10s were only great if you were a young adult, imo.

Pretty much... Which is why I see those that age look over that time more fondly than me, who was going though the bulls*ht years during that time.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/10/17 at 11:12 am


Pretty much... Which is why I see those that age look over that time more fondly than me, who was going though the bulls*ht years during that time.

Me too. The early 10s were the worst period of my life. Except for 2013.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/10/17 at 1:36 pm

I predict that the US will go into a Depression by 2020. :.ducks:.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: mxcrashxm on 01/10/17 at 2:41 pm


That's the thing. Everyone thinks the decade of their childhood is the best eva.

Everyone is trying to get back to the good ol days of childhood.
Not exactly.

http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=50516.0

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/10/17 at 2:46 pm


Just some new interests, new hobbies, new friends, all that fun stuff lol.


Good for you Slim. :)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/10/17 at 2:48 pm


Jazz isn't horrible. It's not my favorite though.


I like funk-jazz.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/10/17 at 3:29 pm


I like funk-jazz.


I prefer jazz over 00's and 10's music of the 21st century.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/12/17 at 8:05 am

Anyone notice the lack of movie link spam on Facebook? It's the dawn of a new age!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/16/17 at 7:21 pm

I think we should refer to this era as the late 2010s now. Regular Show already ended, Donald Trump is going to be president in four days, and a lot of celebrities that we know and love just died last year. Why do people just ignore this crap?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 01/16/17 at 7:58 pm


I like funk-jazz.

70s jazz funk is the best!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/16/17 at 8:12 pm


I think we should refer to this era as the late 2010s now. Regular Show already ended, Donald Trump is going to be president in four days, and a lot of celebrities that we know and love just died last year. Why do people just ignore this crap?

Honestly things have not changed much yet. We can call it late 10s but so far it's exactly the same as the mid 10s. But even then, we are calling it the late 10s and nobody is ignoring it. Who do you see ignoring it?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/16/17 at 9:18 pm

Seeing France and China having to make aggressive statements against the US, me thinks you guys should cherish the final days of these mid-2010s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/16/17 at 10:01 pm


Seeing France and China having to make aggressive statements against the US, me thinks you guys should cherish the final days of these mid-2010s.


America is in an unstable time right now, eh?  :o

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/16/17 at 10:02 pm


America is in an unstable time right now, eh?  :o


I think right now will be viewed as very stable in a year or two's time ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/16/17 at 10:07 pm


I think right now will be viewed as very stable in a year or two's time ;D


Whoo boy. I often wonder if Trump is just a preview of how crazy 2020+ will be. Life likes to give us signs, sometimes.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Brian06 on 01/16/17 at 10:07 pm


I think right now will be viewed as very stable in a year or two's time ;D


Scary thought but very possibly true sadly.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 01/16/17 at 10:42 pm


70s jazz funk is the best!

Right on man!!!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 01/16/17 at 11:26 pm


I think we should refer to this era as the late 2010s now. Regular Show already ended, Donald Trump is going to be president in four days, and a lot of celebrities that we know and love just died last year. Why do people just ignore this crap?


I think those are signs of the late 2010s happening, but we aren't there 100% yet. Music and fashion is still completely mid 2010s. Stuff like Trap, Indie/Hipster pop, indie-synth (I'm actually a fan of synth music from the 80s, but the 2010s are doing it all wrong with all this bland, droney, "indie" crap), hipster fashion, etc.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/16/17 at 11:47 pm


I think those are signs of the late 2010s happening, but we aren't there 100% yet. Music and fashion is still completely mid 2010s. Stuff like Trap, Indie/Hipster pop, indie-synth (I'm actually a fan of synth music from the 80s, but the 2010s are doing it all wrong with all this bland, droney, "indie" crap), hipster fashion, etc.

I agree those things are much more important than getting a new president in terms of culture. Especially if you live outside of the U.S. like me. So far it still feels like the mid 10s, I don't mind calling it the late 10s though.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/16/17 at 11:50 pm


I agree those things are much more important than getting a new president in terms of culture. Especially if you live outside of the U.S. like me. So far it still feels like the mid 10s, I don't mind calling it the late 10s though.


BRUH Stéphane Dion got fired all because of the vagabond Tramp. His cultural impacT on Canada can't be underestimated. 😭😭

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/16/17 at 11:54 pm


BRUH Stéphane Dion got fired all because of the vagabond Tramp. His cultural impacT on Canada can't be underestimated. 😭😭

Presidents don't make up culture. Fashion, music, shows, movies, etc. is what makes up culture, and it is more interesting to me. I've had enough of hearing about Trump.  8-P

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/17/17 at 12:01 am


Presidents don't make up culture. Fashion, music, shows, movies, etc. is what makes up culture, and it is more interesting to me. I've had enough of hearing about Trump.  8-P


Did you listen to the new Green Day MV though. It's happening!

http://i.imgur.com/7drHiqr.gif

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/17/17 at 12:03 am


Did you listen to the new Green Day MV though. It's happening!

http://i.imgur.com/7drHiqr.gif

There is a small impact on culture, but so far everything still feels mid 10s to me.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/17/17 at 12:12 am


Did you listen to the new Green Day MV though. It's happening!

http://i.imgur.com/7drHiqr.gif


;D   

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: KatanaChick on 01/17/17 at 3:28 am


I think we should refer to this era as the late 2010s now. Regular Show already ended, Donald Trump is going to be president in four days, and a lot of celebrities that we know and love just died last year. Why do people just ignore this crap?

Because it's best not to think about it.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/17/17 at 5:46 am


Seeing France and China having to make aggressive statements against the US, me thinks you guys should cherish the final days of these mid-2010s.


Why should I? The early and mid 2010s were basically miserable to me.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/17/17 at 2:48 pm


I think we should refer to this era as the late 2010s now. Regular Show already ended, Donald Trump is going to be president in four days, and a lot of celebrities that we know and love just died last year. Why do people just ignore this crap?



What crap?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/17/17 at 2:50 pm


Whoo boy. I often wonder if Trump is just a preview of how crazy 2020+ will be. Life likes to give us signs, sometimes.


Will he do good as president?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/19/17 at 3:11 pm


Will he do good as president?


If only I was psychic!

I just can't believe tomorrow, politically, the late 10's begins!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 01/19/17 at 3:16 pm

Join me in counting down to the "official" start of the late 2010s.

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=263&iso=20170120T12&msg=A%20New%20President%20is%20Inaugurated

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/19/17 at 3:20 pm


Join me in counting down to the "official" start of the late 2010s.

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=263&iso=20170120T12&msg=A%20New%20President%20is%20Inaugurated


Also, January is already almost 2/3 done. This month has gone by fast.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/19/17 at 4:37 pm


Join me in counting down to the "official" start of the late 2010s.

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=263&iso=20170120T12&msg=A%20New%20President%20is%20Inaugurated


The late 2010s has already been around for a while now. It's just that people are already waiting for Trump to be inaugurated.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/19/17 at 4:53 pm


The late 2010s has already been around for a while now. It's just that people are already waiting for Trump to be inaugurated.

Numerically they have, culturally not at all.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/19/17 at 6:00 pm


Join me in counting down to the "official" start of the late 2010s.

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=263&iso=20170120T12&msg=A%20New%20President%20is%20Inaugurated


Get into the real late 2010s.

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20170303T00&p0=248&msg=Nintendo+Switch+Launch&font=cursive

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/19/17 at 6:05 pm


Get into the real late 2010s.

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20170303T00&p0=248&msg=Nintendo+Switch+Launch&font=cursive


t0EqnoaPNLI

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/19/17 at 6:14 pm




Are you not ready for this éra of Ninténdo?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/19/17 at 6:56 pm


Are you not ready for this éra of Ninténdo?


Bruh. Nintendo is merde with what they have now. The Switch wouldn't change anything.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/19/17 at 7:00 pm

It's too close. :sweating:.  :P  :P

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/19/17 at 7:14 pm


Bruh. Nintendo is merde with what they have now. The Switch wouldn't change anything.


Bye, it has Zeldieu that won't be détruite by motion controls. This is unlike anything we have ever seen before in at least a decade.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 01/19/17 at 7:36 pm


Numerically they have, culturally not at all.

Here in America the late 2010s have most certainly started, or are about to.

Maybe not in your Liberal Winter Wonderland, since Current Year/Weed Man is still president.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/19/17 at 7:44 pm


Here in America the late 2010s have most certainly started, or are about to.

Maybe not in your Liberal Winter Wonderland, since Current Year/Weed Man is still president.

Haha Yeah here not much has changed. But so far there are no changes in fashion or music though. Only politically can you say it is the late 10s in the U.S. Unless you have noticed other changes besides politics?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/19/17 at 7:50 pm


Bye, it has Zeldieu that won't be détruite by motion controls. This is unlike anything we have ever seen before in at least a decade.


So?

All the Switch has is a mascot that is sort of attractive (yes, as a furry I cannot deny that).

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 01/19/17 at 7:55 pm

All I can think of about these Trump comments (from what I saw on the news as I write this, he's gonna be inaugurated pretty soon) is that there will be a 2000s comeback in the 2020s. Let's face it, the 2000s and the 1980s were more conservative than the decades they succeeded and preceded in terms of their culture to some extent, and the culture of the 80s and 2000s seemed more edgier than the more light-hearted culture of the 70s and 90s. I'm not sure, but I've been looking at some progressive rock (not really my taste) and I heard that that genre was big in the 70s, and compared to other genres of rock music, it doesn't have that sense of heaviness in it, at least from what I got. The early 2000s nostalgia is pretty much starting this off.

I've actually speculated about this on PerC:

http://personalitycafe.com/trends-forum/971354-how-trumps-election-will-affect-music-2.html#post33126874

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/19/17 at 8:00 pm


Haha Yeah here not much has changed. But so far there are no changes in fashion or music though. Only politically can you say it is the late 10s in the U.S. Unless you have noticed other changes besides politics?


Ariana Grande is a Final Fantasy character. Chris on suicide watch.

http://static5.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1179/11799911/3183338-ariana2.jpg

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 01/19/17 at 8:02 pm


Haha Yeah here not much has changed. But so far there are no changes in fashion or music though. Only politically can you say it is the late 10s in the U.S. Unless you have noticed other changes besides politics?

I feel like if 2010s fashion was going to be this conservative in this aspect they should have just voted in Romney already.

"Tired of the constant sexualisation the media and the fashion industry push towards the American citizen? Vote Romney, and he will stamp out the liberals who are behind this immorality!". Seriously, skinny jean shorts are something only a prude would love, and those things look uncomfortable to wear.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/19/17 at 8:16 pm


I feel like if 2010s fashion was going to be this conservative in this aspect they should have just voted in Romney already.

"Tired of the constant sexualisation the media and the fashion industry push towards the American citizen? Vote Romney, and he will stamp out the liberals who are behind this immorality!". Seriously, skinny jean shorts are something only a prude would love, and those things look uncomfortable to wear.


You're the only one I know who accuses 2010s fashion of being too manly ;D

10 years ago, baggy jorts were still a thing so I'd count my lucky stars LOL.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 01/19/17 at 8:38 pm


You're the only one I know who accuses 2010s fashion of being too manly ;D

10 years ago, baggy jorts were still a thing so I'd count my lucky stars LOL.

The skinny jeans are an obvious sign that 2010s fashion isn't manly, but facial hair wasn't a fashion statement in the 2000s afaik.

Still, baggy shorts feel way more comfortable in the summer heat than skinny jean shorts that only keep your shins cool, because at least some air can go up to your thighs.

I actually bought some booty shorts to try and buck the trend. Until the 90s, guys wore those sort of shorts as well as girls. Michael Jordan probably killed off booty shorts on guys.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/19/17 at 8:52 pm


Here in America the late 2010s have most certainly started, or are about to.

Maybe not in your Liberal Winter Wonderland, since Current Year/Weed Man is still president.


Our latest political scandal was him replying in French to an English question. I have never seen our country so divided before. The late 2010s are starting here too, it is spilling over.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/19/17 at 9:00 pm


Our latest political scandal was him replying in French to an English question. I have never seen our country so divided before. The late 2010s are starting here too, it is spilling over.

Ha I know a civil war is definitely on the horizon here. xD

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 01/19/17 at 11:57 pm


Ha I know a civil war is definitely on the horizon here. xD


A question is, over what?  The right was not this angry until the 2015 gay marriage decision.  I can't believe two people who love each other wanting to be married has made the right this angry, that many would go to war over it.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/20/17 at 12:24 am


A question is, over what?  The right was not this angry until the 2015 gay marriage decision.  I can't believe two people who love each other wanting to be married has made the right this angry, that many would go to war over it.

I'm kidding about Canada going into war over language. But you guys down in the south have a large amount of people who don't like gay people, it's very scary.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 01/20/17 at 12:45 am

It really does feel like an era is ending and for that, I am sad.  The last eight years have had their ups and downs in my personal life...but the first four, 2009-2012, were the best years of my life and I don't know if any time in my future will ever match it.  I do have a feeling I will have a strong nostalgia for the Obama era throughout my life.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Brian06 on 01/20/17 at 12:48 am


It really does feel like an era is ending and for that, I am sad.  The last eight years have had their ups and downs in my personal life...but the first four, 2009-2012, were the best years of my life and I don't know if any time in my future will ever match it.  I do have a feeling I will have a strong nostalgia for the Obama era throughout my life.


Compared to where we may be heading a lot of people might not realizing how good we had it during this time. Trump is a loose cannon and he's only going to make the situation worse. I could respect almost any other conservative but this clown is just a freaking joke, and he's going to put his hand on the Bible and recite the oath of office in less than 12 hours. Given that almost everything he says is a lie how is anybody supposed to take him seriously when he swears to uphold the constitution?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 01/20/17 at 1:10 am


Compared to where we may be heading a lot of people might not realizing how good we had it during this time. Trump is a loose cannon and he's only going to make the situation worse. I could respect almost any other conservative but this clown is just a freaking joke, and he's going to put his hand on the Bible and recite the oath of office in less than 12 hours. Given that almost everything he says is a lie how is anybody supposed to take him seriously when he swears to uphold the constitution?


I agree.  In 2-3 years, I guarantee that some of Obama's biggest criticizers will be missing the Obama era.  They will look back and think that maybe he wasn't so bad.  A similar thing happened with Clinton in the '00s, though I think that Obama's overall legacy will be much larger and stronger than Bill Clinton's.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Brian06 on 01/20/17 at 1:17 am


I agree.  In 2-3 years, I guarantee that some of Obama's biggest criticizers will be missing the Obama era.  They will look back and think that maybe he wasn't so bad.  A similar thing happened with Clinton in the '00s, though I think that Obama's overall legacy will be much larger and stronger than Bill Clinton's.


As I've said before I think the left can be too PC at times...but looking at it realistically I realize it's just such small potatoes compared to handing the power of the Presidency to someone like Trump. The fact that he hasn't toned it down at all during the transition (still acting like a fool on twitter along with his cabinet appointments) re-enforces it even more the danger this guy poses to the republic. He seems to be appointing people that want to get rid of the departments they're supposed to head. You got a climate change denying oil lobby suck up (Pruitt) for EPA, the lady who wants to get rid of public schools for education (DeVos), Perry who said he'd get rid of the Energy Department for you guessed it Secretary of Energy, the confederate sympathizer (Sessions) for Attorney General, a freaking fast food CEO (Puzder) for Secretary of Labor. The whole thing is insane really.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: TheKid99 on 01/20/17 at 6:12 am


I agree.  In 2-3 years, I guarantee that some of Obama's biggest criticizers will be missing the Obama era.  They will look back and think that maybe he wasn't so bad.  A similar thing happened with Clinton in the '00s, though I think that Obama's overall legacy will be much larger and stronger than Bill Clinton's.

Even I know for a fact bill Clinton had a larger legacy than Obama. He was president during the easiest time in modern times to be president. The economy has 5 straight years of 3.5%+ growth. The Internet. Everything. It all happened. All of Obama's legacy will be torn up to shreds by trump.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/20/17 at 7:01 am


Join me in counting down to the "official" start of the late 2010s.

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=263&iso=20170120T12&msg=A%20New%20President%20is%20Inaugurated


less than 4 hours to go.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/20/17 at 7:01 am


Also, January is already almost 2/3 done. This month has gone by fast.


I know, Wow!  :o

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 01/20/17 at 9:34 am


As I've said before I think the left can be too PC at times...but looking at it realistically I realize it's just such small potatoes compared to handing the power of the Presidency to someone like Trump. The fact that he hasn't toned it down at all during the transition (still acting like a fool on twitter along with his cabinet appointments) re-enforces it even more the danger this guy poses to the republic. He seems to be appointing people that want to get rid of the departments they're supposed to head. You got a climate change denying oil lobby suck up (Pruitt) for EPA, the lady who wants to get rid of public schools for education (DeVos), Perry who said he'd get rid of the Energy Department for you guessed it Secretary of Energy, the confederate sympathizer (Sessions) for Attorney General, a freaking fast food CEO (Puzder) for Secretary of Labor. The whole thing is insane really.

Yeah, the Republicans would support this, as they believe that because of the profit motive, corporations will have a higher standard of doing things (sometimes this is the case, sometimes this isn't), and because of fundamentalist Christianity running rampant in that country, climate change is seen as yet another "communist plot" to stifle the free market.

And yes, Trump's background is in business, so it would kind of make sense for him to employ people in the same field; however, I'm not sure about having Pence as his VP and a confederate sympathiser as the Secretary of Energy.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: mxcrashxm on 01/20/17 at 9:47 am

Has anyone heard about the Women's March on washington happening tomorrow? It's going to be huge!


I agree.  In 2-3 years, I guarantee that some of Obama's biggest criticizers will be missing the Obama era. They will look back and think that maybe he wasn't so bad.  A similar thing happened with Clinton in the '00s, though I think that Obama's overall legacy will be much larger and stronger than Bill Clinton's.
Oh yeah, they will. I'll give it a year for them to realize that Trump was a mistake and that there were other people who were better suited for the oval office.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/20/17 at 10:24 am


Yeah, the Republicans would support this, as they believe that because of the profit motive, corporations will have a higher standard of doing things (sometimes this is the case, sometimes this isn't), and because of fundamentalist Christianity running rampant in that country, climate change is seen as yet another "communist plot" to stifle the free market.

And yes, Trump's background is in business, so it would kind of make sense for him to employ people in the same field; however, I'm not sure about having Pence as his VP and a confederate sympathiser as the Secretary of Energy.


Americans don't really think about communism that much, aside from the people who were uneducated for a long time. Some of them think the Chinese made global warming though.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/20/17 at 10:51 am


Americans don't really think about communism that much, aside from the people who were uneducated for a long time. Some of them think the Chinese made global warming though.

What does communism have to do with being educated...? ??? No offense but many strong "democratic" Americans are not educated at all...

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/20/17 at 11:00 am


What does communism have to do with being educated...? ??? No offense but many strong "democratic" Americans are not educated at all...


Which is what I said before, since Riven thinks communism is still a threat to Americans. Although, we never really had a threat related to communism ever since the Soviet Union collapsed.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/20/17 at 11:06 am


Which is what I said before, since Riven thinks communism is still a threat to Americans. Although, we never really had a threat related to communism ever since the Soviet Union collapsed.

Oh I see what you mean. Yeah those people who are afraid of communism in the U.S. are usually dumb republicans.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/20/17 at 1:39 pm


Has anyone heard about the Women's March on washington happening tomorrow? It's going to be huge!
Oh yeah, they will. I'll give it a year for them to realize that Trump was a mistake and that there were other people who were better suited for the oval office.


Are you going to give him a chance?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: mxcrashxm on 01/20/17 at 1:46 pm


Are you going to give him a chance?
I am, but I don't trust him.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/20/17 at 1:49 pm


I am, but I don't trust him.


Did you watch his speech? ???

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/20/17 at 2:12 pm


Did you watch his speech? ???

I did not like his speech at all.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: mxcrashxm on 01/20/17 at 2:17 pm


Did you watch his speech? ???
Nah, but I'll still give him a chance.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/20/17 at 3:51 pm


I did not like his speech at all.


I just read a transcript. Absolute drivel of a deranged man. The mid-2010s nostalgia is settling in.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 01/20/17 at 4:02 pm


I just read a transcript. Absolute drivel of a deranged man. The mid-2010s nostalgia is settling in.


I am ultra-nostalgic for the early 2010s right now.  With Obama gone and Trump in, it feels like the present has little ties to that era, even though it wasn't really that long ago.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: #Infinity on 01/20/17 at 4:04 pm

The sad thing is, even if Trump gets impeached and removed from office, a Mike Pence presidency would make me shudder even more, as not only is he more likely to directly take action to undo LGBT rights, he's much more likely to cooperate with the establishment Republicans who dominate Washington politics.

The best I can hope for is four years of disjunction, similar to the presidency of John Quincy Adams, except with an unscrupulous Chief Executive left immobilized rather than one with a truly positive agenda.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 01/20/17 at 4:12 pm


The sad thing is, even if Trump gets impeached and removed from office, a Mike Pence presidency would make me shudder even more, as not only is he more likely to directly take action to undo LGBT rights, he's much more likely to cooperate with the establishment Republicans who dominate Washington politics.

The best I can hope for is four years of disjunction, similar to the presidency of John Quincy Adams, except with an unscrupulous Chief Executive left immobilized rather than one with a truly positive agenda.


I'm undecided.  While I think Pence would be much worse for LGBT rights than Trump, I do think he's more "competent" so to speak.  I think he could better execute the duties of POTUS than the man we just inaugurated today.

My prediction is we will have between 1-2 years of Trump before he is impeached.  Pence will finish out Trump's term and then a Democrat will be elected in a major landslide carrying most states outside the Bible Belt and Indiana in 2020.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/20/17 at 4:33 pm


I am ultra-nostalgic for the early 2010s right now.  With Obama gone and Trump in, it feels like the present has little ties to that era, even though it wasn't really that long ago.


I remember feeling the early 2010s were politically unstable, ho boy. The problems of then feel so "normal" compared to the problems of today.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/20/17 at 4:36 pm


The sad thing is, even if Trump gets impeached and removed from office, a Mike Pence presidency would make me shudder even more, as not only is he more likely to directly take action to undo LGBT rights, he's much more likely to cooperate with the establishment Republicans who dominate Washington politics.

The best I can hope for is four years of disjunction, similar to the presidency of John Quincy Adams, except with an unscrupulous Chief Executive left immobilized rather than one with a truly positive agenda.

Mike Pence is even worse than Trump.

I just hope Trump doesn't screw over my country.  :(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 01/20/17 at 4:40 pm


I remember feeling the early 2010s were politically unstable, ho boy. The problems of then feel so "normal" compared to the problems of today.


It seemed like such a lighthearted, carefree time compared to today.  Despite the state of the economy at the time, I was more optimistic about the immediate future of America in 2010 than I am today.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/20/17 at 4:44 pm


Mike Pence is even worse than Trump.


Mike Pence is better for global stability and less racist. I guess it depends on what's important to you.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 01/20/17 at 4:48 pm


Mike Pence is better for global stability and less racist. I guess it depends on what's important to you.


This is what I can starting to consider. Pence for a few years won't be good for LGBT rights, but it would be impossible for him to overturn Obergefell in that amount of time. Remember Obergefell was passed even with Scalia on the bench.

I don't know a lot about Pence outside his LGBT stances but from what I've seen, he seems more like a level-headed person that is more capable and fit to be POTUS than Donald Trump. I could be wrong though.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/20/17 at 4:56 pm


It seemed like such a lighthearted, carefree time compared to today.  Despite the state of the economy at the time, I was more optimistic about the immediate future of America in 2010 than I am today.


I agree. The early 2010s were by no means quiet and stable, but there was still that hope, that optimism, that tomorrow will be better than today. That's not what can be said about today. Any look at the evidence suggests things will get worse in the near future on many fronts, and that's just depressing. I can only hope that people get stronger through the adversity, bit that's the fruit to enjoy only 4/8 years from now :(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/20/17 at 5:05 pm


Mike Pence is better for global stability and less racist. I guess it depends on what's important to you.

I do not believe he is less racist. He is more socially conservative than Trump on all levels. Only difference is he is more experienced than Trump.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/20/17 at 5:06 pm


I agree. The early 2010s were by no means quiet and stable, but there was still that hope, that optimism, that tomorrow will be better than today. That's not what can be said about today. Any look at the evidence suggests things will get worse in the near future on many fronts, and that's just depressing. I can only hope that people get stronger through the adversity, bit that's the fruit to enjoy only 4/8 years from now :(

I still hate the early 2010s (except 2013). And despite Trump being the new president, I am far more hopeful for my future at least now than I was in the early 10s. The late 10s will be an awesome, fun era.  :)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/20/17 at 5:17 pm


This is what I can starting to consider. Pence for a few years won't be good for LGBT rights, but it would be impossible for him to overturn Obergefell in that amount of time. Remember Obergefell was passed even with Scalia on the bench.

I don't know a lot about Pence outside his LGBT stances but from what I've seen, he seems more like a level-headed person that is more capable and fit to be POTUS than Donald Trump. I could be wrong though.


Good point. I think though, sometimes, it's not just what laws a politician will pass, but also the type of rhetoric they have. Trump's rhetoric suggest he's mostly ambivalent towards LGBT issues. Mike Pence's rhetoric is much more negative, especially when it comes to transgender people. That makes worse the violence and apprehension people face in their day to day lives.

I do not believe he is less racist. He is more socially conservative than Trump on all levels. Only difference is he is more experienced than Trump.


Trump is straight up alt-right (fascist). Pence is at worse a vanilla racist. That's how I see it. ;D

Another point is Pence is less authoritarian. He believes in freedom of the press and free speech.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/20/17 at 5:24 pm


I still hate the early 2010s (except 2013). And despite Trump being the new president, I am far more hopeful for my future at least now than I was in the early 10s. The late 10s will be an awesome, fun era.  :)


I'm talking more about the state of the world rather than my personal life or pop culture. The late 2010s will definitely be worse. Personal life wise I have a lot of reason to be optimistic, too. :D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/20/17 at 5:57 pm

The speech was alright, nothing special.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/20/17 at 6:04 pm

The late 2010's for me will be awesome, if only I can make it to August, when my mental health will be 100% great!

2018 IS MINE!!!!! 2018 IS MINE!!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/20/17 at 6:09 pm


I'm talking more about the state of the world rather than my personal life or pop culture. The late 2010s will definitely be worse. Personal life wise I have a lot of reason to be optimistic, too. :D

The state of the world will be fine. There is no reason to believe it won't. In fact, things may even improve in the late 10s a lot. Already there is noticeably less mass shootings and violence. State of the world, personal life, and pop culture will probably all improve in the late 10s. It will be a great era.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 01/20/17 at 6:18 pm

The US presidency now does not take very well to dissent:

http://i.imgur.com/WBZf0XL.png

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/20/17 at 6:19 pm


The state of the world will be fine. There is no reason to believe it won't. In fact, things may even improve in the late 10s a lot. Already there is noticeably less mass shootings and violence. State of the world, personal life, and pop culture will probably all improve in the late 10s. It will be a great era.


Did you not just hear that speech? :o

Today instead of congratulating the American people, the French president declared the TTIP (Europe-US free trade agreement) dead, and warned about the perils of protectionism. Yesterday at Davos, China projected itself as the voice of reason on climate change and free trade, while the US sat in the corner, ignored. In Trump's speech itself he denigrated NATO and said he has no obligation to defend other countries.

There's been a huge shakeup in global relations. Europe and America's interests no longer align.

Mass shootings and violence were already on the decline by the way. Actually, after seeing the depravity, barbarism and the war crimes that took place in Aleppo, I can imagine things getting much worse over there. Turkey and Eastern European countries are also turning a lot more authoritarian and unstable. Brexit is also going to f*ck one particular country over. China's housing bubble is about to pop too, which is going to be really bad. North Korea and China are finally realigned as they found a common enemy in the Trump administration. China didn't even bother commenting on yesterday's missile launch preparations in NK. Damn, I could go on forever.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/20/17 at 6:31 pm


Did you not just hear that speech? :o

Today instead of congratulating the American people, the French president declared the TTIP (Europe-US free trade agreement) dead, and warned about the perils of protectionism. Yesterday at Davos, China projected itself as the voice of reason on climate change and free trade, while the US sat in the corner, ignored. In Trump's speech itself he denigrated NATO and said he has no obligation to defend other countries.

There's been a huge shakeup in global relations. Europe and America's interests no longer align.

Mass shootings and violence were already on the decline by the way. Actually, after seeing the depravity, barbarism and the war crimes that took place in Aleppo, I can imagine things getting much worse over there. Turkey and Eastern European countries are also turning a lot more authoritarian and unstable. Brexit is also going to f*ck one particular country over. China's housing bubble is about to pop too, which is going to be really bad. North Korea and China are finally realigned as they found a common enemy in the Trump administration. China didn't even bother commenting on yesterday's missile launch preparations in NK. Damn, I could go on forever.

Yeah I heard the speech and it sucked. But I am honestly tired of hearing about Donald Trump and unless/until he does something stupid, there is no reason to fear anything. As for other parts of the world, these things may also settle down. I think the mid 10s will be seen as the most turbulent period, the late 10s will improve a lot then the 20s will be great as well.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 01/20/17 at 6:33 pm


Did you not just hear that speech? :o

Today instead of congratulating the American people, the French president declared the TTIP (Europe-US free trade agreement) dead, and warned about the perils of protectionism. Yesterday at Davos, China projected itself as the voice of reason on climate change and free trade, while the US sat in the corner, ignored. In Trump's speech itself he denigrated NATO and said he has no obligation to defend other countries.

There's been a huge shakeup in global relations. Europe and America's interests no longer align.

Mass shootings and violence were already on the decline by the way. Actually, after seeing the depravity, barbarism and the war crimes that took place in Aleppo, I can imagine things getting much worse over there. Turkey and Eastern European countries are also turning a lot more authoritarian and unstable. Brexit is also going to f*ck one particular country over. China's housing bubble is about to pop too, which is going to be really bad. North Korea and China are finally realigned as they found a common enemy in the Trump administration. China didn't even bother commenting on yesterday's missile launch preparations in NK. Damn, I could go on forever.


Welcome to the fascist future.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/20/17 at 6:35 pm

No health care for ANYONE!  ;D Just kidding!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 01/20/17 at 6:37 pm


No health care for ANYONE!  ;D Just kidding!

Everything's gonna be privatised now in Trump's America. At this point, I don't care, because either they could be right or it could be just political suicide.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/20/17 at 6:40 pm


Everything's gonna be privatised now in Trump's America. At this point, I don't care, because either they could be right or it could be just political suicide.


He, and the Republicans, are already getting rid of Obamacare.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: muppethammer26 on 01/20/17 at 11:44 pm

I hope the late 10's will feel like the 60's again. It's going to be exciting! 8)

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/174/430139338_cb5894b19a_o.jpg
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/24100000/The-60-s-Photos-the-60s-24193000-500-321.jpg

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/21/17 at 7:14 am


Mike Pence is even worse than Trump.

I just hope Trump doesn't screw over my country.  :(


He will "Make America Great".

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/21/17 at 7:16 am


The state of the world will be fine. There is no reason to believe it won't. In fact, things may even improve in the late 10s a lot. Already there is noticeably less mass shootings and violence. State of the world, personal life, and pop culture will probably all improve in the late 10s. It will be a great era.


I sure hope so.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 01/21/17 at 7:17 am


I hope the late 10's will feel like the 60's again. It's going to be exciting! 8)

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/174/430139338_cb5894b19a_o.jpg
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/24100000/The-60-s-Photos-the-60s-24193000-500-321.jpg

I'm hoping that the 2020s will feel like the 2000s again, but if it does feel like that and it's awful, or if I don't get a 2000s comeback, I'm banking on good tech.

The 2000s was more politically conservative and kind of like the 80s in a way, and the 2010s seems more liberal and like the 90s. There was a hell of a lot of nostalgia for the particular past decades then.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 01/21/17 at 7:18 am


The state of the world will be fine. There is no reason to believe it won't. In fact, things may even improve in the late 10s a lot. Already there is noticeably less mass shootings and violence. State of the world, personal life, and pop culture will probably all improve in the late 10s. It will be a great era.


Yay, people are waking up to the fact that the 2000s are great (probably because 90s nostalgia is gonna fade away soon). Thing is, although justice is served, I hope that police states won't become the new norm like what George Orwell envisioned.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 01/21/17 at 4:07 pm


I hope the late 10's will feel like the 60's again. It's going to be exciting! 8)

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/174/430139338_cb5894b19a_o.jpg
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/24100000/The-60-s-Photos-the-60s-24193000-500-321.jpg

Based on the protests happening today (some of the largest in history), it's safe to say we're officially in the late 2010s now.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/21/17 at 4:08 pm


Based on the protests happening today (some of the largest in history), it's safe to say we're officially in the late 2010s now.


As much as I have to say it a million times, we've already been in the late 2010s since Trump has been elected. Literally a lot of people have been like this since November.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 01/21/17 at 4:13 pm


As much as I have to say it a million times, we've already been in the late 2010s since Trump has been elected. Literally a lot of people have been like this since November.

Here's how I see it.

2014 to November 7, 2016 was the mid 2010s.

November 8, 2016 to January 19, 2017 was the transition from the mid 2010s to late 2010s.

January 20, 2017 to now is officially the full late 2010s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/21/17 at 4:21 pm


Here's how I see it.

2014 to November 7, 2016 was the mid 2010s.

November 8, 2016 to January 19, 2017 was the transition from the mid 2010s to late 2010s.

January 20, 2017 to now is officially the full late 2010s.


Fair enough.  :P

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/21/17 at 4:28 pm


As much as I have to say it a million times, we've already been in the late 2010s since Trump has been elected. Literally a lot of people have been like this since November.

But there are no differences in terms of pop culture from the mid 10s so far.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/21/17 at 4:38 pm


But there are no differences in terms of pop culture from the mid 10s so far.


We're talking about political differences, which could actually be important with the late 2010s since people are already having a Trump backlash.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/21/17 at 4:41 pm


But there are no differences in terms of pop culture from the mid 10s so far.


That sh*t Paris song is going to top the charts, representing Americans' desire to be anywhere but where they are in these trying political times.


Just kidding lol. Same EDM garbage.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/21/17 at 5:37 pm


That sh*t Paris song is going to top the charts, representing Americans' desire to be anywhere but where they are in these trying political times.


Just kidding lol. Same EDM garbage.



Not so fast! Avril will revel in all this feminine energy and write songs for her next 10 million selling, chart topping album!

8)  8)  8)  8)  8)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/21/17 at 5:55 pm


Not so fast! Avril will revel in all this feminine energy and write songs for her next 10 million selling, chart topping album!

8)  8)  8)  8)  8)


Her record company doesn't even promote her anymore. She's done lol.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 01/21/17 at 6:15 pm


We're talking about political differences, which could actually be important with the late 2010s since people are already having a Trump backlash.


Perhaps, but politics aren't everything. If pop culture is still mid 2010s, then we still have a ways to go before it's 100% late 2010s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 01/21/17 at 6:18 pm


Here's how I see it.

2014 to November 7, 2016 was the mid 2010s.

November 8, 2016 to January 19, 2017 was the transition from the mid 2010s to late 2010s.

January 20, 2017 to now is officially the full late 2010s.


It doesn't make sense to say we are fully in the late 2010s, solely based on politics. Pop culture is still knee deep in the mid 2010s. So by definition, we are not completely in the late 2010s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/21/17 at 6:40 pm

In terms of music, Ed Sheeran is number one now with his song "Shape of you". It sounds just like a 2016 song, and this could easily be one of the biggest songs of the year if it stays high in the charts. Do you guys think music won't even change in the late 2010s? Because if you think about it, this electronic dancehall trend started in 2016 and if we just see these types of songs for the rest of the decade you can argue musically the late 10s started in 2016. Perhaps we'll see more of these songs and more of a decline in trap rap and teen pop. I just don't see anything else on the horizon at the moment to be honest. We also know Star Wars will be popular for the rest of the decade as the next episode will be released this year, a Han Solo story in 2018 and episode 9 in 2019. Game of Thrones will end in 2018. The current fashion and clothing styles are still in. Do you even think there is room for new culture to come in the late 10s? ??? Maybe we're stuck with what we have until 2019. Or maybe the change will be very gradual. I was more optimistic before but now I'm just not sure anymore.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/21/17 at 7:46 pm


Perhaps, but politics aren't everything. If pop culture is still mid 2010s, then we still have a ways to go before it's 100% late 2010s.


This is coming from the same person who doesn't like the 2010s at all. Does it really look like I care about pop culture still being in the mid 2010s? I mean, everyone related to pop culture doesn't like Trump and would be involved with the protests. It's starting to be more like the late 2010s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 01/21/17 at 8:07 pm


In terms of music, Ed Sheeran is number one now with his song "Shape of you". It sounds just like a 2016 song, and this could easily be one of the biggest songs of the year if it stays high in the charts. Do you guys think music won't even change in the late 2010s? Because if you think about it, this electronic dancehall trend started in 2016 and if we just see these types of songs for the rest of the decade you can argue musically the late 10s started in 2016. Perhaps we'll see more of these songs and more of a decline in trap rap and teen pop. I just don't see anything else on the horizon at the moment to be honest. We also know Star Wars will be popular for the rest of the decade as the next episode will be released this year, a Han Solo story in 2018 and episode 9 in 2019. Game of Thrones will end in 2018. The current fashion and clothing styles are still in. Do you even think there is room for new culture to come in the late 10s? ??? Maybe we're stuck with what we have until 2019. Or maybe the change will be very gradual. I was more optimistic before but now I'm just not sure anymore.


I know how you feel about things not changing much. Still, I don't want to jump to any conclusions just yet. As for the Ed Sheeran song, I'm pretty sure that style was popular in the mid 2010s as well. I don't see it lasting until 2019. And yes, fashion is still pretty much the same now, but one could argue that fashion in early 1997 was still very mid 90s. Just because hipster fashion is still going strong now, does not mean it will last for the entire decade. The year has just begun, so I think most of the changes will occur later in the year. You also have to remember that early 2013 was still transitioning out of the early 2010s, in terms of pop culture. It wasn't until late 2013, when mid 2010s culture was really starting to take over (excluding politics). I think a lot of people exaggerate the influence a new president has on pop culture trends. It's not like music, fashion, etc., instantaneously changes once a new president is inaugurated.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/21/17 at 8:12 pm


Her record company doesn't even promote her anymore. She's done lol.


Damn, karma is vicious! It's karma for her irritating, high pitched, voice!  :(  :(  :(  :-X  :-X

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/21/17 at 8:29 pm


I'm pretty sure that style was popular in the mid 2010s as well.

It has a 2016 dancehall vibe to it, one that was exclusively popular last year. It sounds similar to Sia's beat in Cheap Thrills.

2016 was also the first year many pop songs started getting major beat drops in the middle of the song, or as I like to call it very annoying random noises in the middle of the song, for example Justin Beiber's "Let me love you", Hailee Steinfeld's "Starving", Kiara's song "Gold", Panda, and a lot more. Some were tolerable though like the beat drop in the Chainsmoker's "Closer" and "Roses".


I don't see it lasting until 2019. And yes, fashion is still pretty much the same now, but one could argue that fashion in early 1997 was still very mid 90s. Just because hipster fashion is still going strong now, does not mean it will last for the entire decade. The year has just begun, so I think most of the changes will occur later in the year. You also have to remember that early 2013 was still transitioning out of the early 2010s, in terms of pop culture. It wasn't until late 2013, when mid 2010s culture was really starting to take over (excluding politics).


I really hope so! I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't change until then though because a lot of people just aren't that bored with pop culture at the moment it seems. I mean even with technology we have VR, powerful smartphones, and up next a foldable display Samsung is set out to release this year. I do hope you're right though.


I think a lot of people exaggerate the influence a new president has on pop culture trends. It's not like music, fashion, etc., instantaneously changes once a new president is inaugurated.

Oh yeah I totally agree. It may make a small impact but it is not as huge of an influence as people think, or at least not all the time.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 01/21/17 at 9:28 pm


I'm hoping that the 2020s will feel like the 2000s again, but if it does feel like that and it's awful, or if I don't get a 2000s comeback, I'm banking on good tech.

The 2000s was more politically conservative and kind of like the 80s in a way, and the 2010s seems more liberal and like the 90s. There was a hell of a lot of nostalgia for the particular past decades then.


Not hating on your hopes, but to be honest I'd just rather the 2020s feels like its own decade. One of the big reasons people love older decades is because of how unique/interesting they were. We can't get decades as good as the previous ones if all the new decades are are just modernized versions of older decades. Drawing some pop cultural influences from previous decades is fine as all decades are like that, but overall I want 2020s to feel a bit like its own decade.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Arrowstone on 01/22/17 at 10:58 am

mmm. my gym switched the music from Edm-pop to alternative. Gotta say that pop punk works well during the work out

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: stefanvh on 01/22/17 at 11:05 am

I think we will see a lot of 2000s culture coming back in the 2020s, especially if President Trump gets a second term. There was a distinct anti-Bush vibe in mid 2000s music (American Idiot by Green Day, Amerika by Rammstein etc.), and that will only be amplified if Trump wins in 2020.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 01/22/17 at 11:37 am


I think we will see a lot of 2000s culture coming back in the 2020s, especially if President Trump gets a second term. There was a distinct anti-Bush vibe in mid 2000s music (American Idiot by Green Day, Amerika by Rammstein etc.), and that will only be amplified if Trump wins in 2020.

Exactly what I predict.

mmm. my gym switched the music from Edm-pop to alternative. Gotta say that pop punk works well during the work out

Daaamn. I wish my university's gym were as cool as yours. If only I had a bit more money for sports earphones so I don't listen to half the crap they put out. Some of it is that genre when I work out. I blame the fundie Christians and mainstream media for why alternative isn't as big, and by fundie Christians, I probably mean some of the international students.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/22/17 at 11:56 am


I think we will see a lot of 2000s culture coming back in the 2020s, especially if President Trump gets a second term. There was a distinct anti-Bush vibe in mid 2000s music (American Idiot by Green Day, Amerika by Rammstein etc.), and that will only be amplified if Trump wins in 2020.


I think people would see that in the early 2020s, since Trump would be still be president until January 20, 2021. Or unless he gets elected again in 2020, then I guess we have to suffer four more years with him.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/23/17 at 10:36 pm

I'll admit I'm getting a little afraid of what Trump is gonna do. I watched the news and he was signing all these documents and started scrapping all these trade agreements. I'm afraid of what he will do with NAFTA. He will screw over both Mexico and Canada by leaving NAFTA.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/23/17 at 10:50 pm


I'll admit I'm getting a little afraid of what Trump is gonna do. I watched the news and he was signing all these documents and started scrapping all these trade agreements. I'm afraid of what he will do with NAFTA. He will screw over both Mexico and Canada by leaving NAFTA.


I thought you hated NAFTA  :-X :-X

My opinion is that we should enter a (((globalist))) pact with Mexico, Europe and China. If the US raises tariffs on any of us, we'll all four raise tariffs on the US accordingly. This disproportionate reaction would provide a deterrent effect and hopefully make the US stop waving its dick around and bullying other countries. Well, either that, or Trump will get offended, and we'll be plunged into a global trade war and another Great Depression  ;D Not necessarily a bad thing, think of how much carbon emissions would reduce, we could save the planet  :D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/23/17 at 11:01 pm


I thought you hated NAFTA  :-X :-X

My opinion is that we should enter a (((globalist))) pact with Mexico, Europe and China. If the US raises tariffs on any of us, we'll all four raise tariffs on the US accordingly. This disproportionate reaction would provide a deterrent effect and hopefully make the US stop waving its dick around and bullying other countries. Well, either that, or Trump will get offended, and we'll be plunged into a global trade war and another Great Depression  ;D Not necessarily a bad thing, think of how much carbon emissions would reduce, we could save the planet  :D

When did I say I hated NAFTA?  :o Perhaps I gave it a lot of much needed criticism as it certainly hasn't always been good and there are problems with it. But Canada's growth and economy thrives on it and I certainly don't want it to be gone. And yeah that would be a good plan if it were to come to that. Put the same amount of tariff on the U.S. as they would on us.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/24/17 at 8:34 pm

What fascinates me is that he was allowed to kill the TPP. This is the man who said it was a bad deal because it would only benefit China........ despite China not being a signatory, and the whole reason the TPP was created was to create an Asian bulwark against China.  This man was the ultimate arbiter of the TPP. It's pure lunacy down there!

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Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/24/17 at 9:20 pm

The best way to change the culture's music is to find new artists and promote them to your friends and family and social media followers.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/24/17 at 10:29 pm


The best way to change the culture's music is to find new artists and promote them to your friends and family and social media followers.


OR we can just accept that nothing will get better in this dark Ariana Grande era. Have you seen this?

https://i2.wp.com/ihackedit.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/FINAL-FANTASY-BRAVE-EXVIUS.jpg?w=175

The end is nigh.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/24/17 at 10:34 pm


The best way to change the culture's music is to find new artists and promote them to your friends and family and social media followers.


Yup!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/24/17 at 10:34 pm


OR we can just accept that nothing will get better in this dark Ariana Grande era. Have you seen this?

https://i2.wp.com/ihackedit.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/FINAL-FANTASY-BRAVE-EXVIUS.jpg?w=175

The end is nigh.


Music has been blah, lately!  :(  :(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 01/25/17 at 12:51 pm


OR we can just accept that nothing will get better in this dark Ariana Grande era. Have you seen this?

https://i2.wp.com/ihackedit.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/FINAL-FANTASY-BRAVE-EXVIUS.jpg?w=175

The end is nigh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNLUS0o69wQ

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/25/17 at 2:47 pm


Music has been blah, lately!  :(  :(


I agree.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/25/17 at 6:41 pm

Only 5 days in and it's been an absolute disaster. Zelek bet on the wrong horse. There is truly only one saviour of our times, and that is Nintendo. We must all do our part: pre-order a Switch at your local game retailer today for the very fair price of $299.99. Pre-order today and we'll include a TV dock at no extra charge, their generous gift to you. Could someone who delivered as much 2016 qualiTy the likes of Pokémon GO and Pokémon Sun/Moon really fail us? Impossibru!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/25/17 at 7:08 pm


Only 5 days in and it's been an absolute disaster. Zelek bet on the wrong horse. There is truly only one saviour of our times, and that is Nintendo. We must all do our part: pre-order a Switch at your local game retailer today for the very fair price of $299.99. Pre-order today and we'll include a TV dock at no extra charge, their generous gift to you. Could someone who delivered as much 2016 qualiTy the likes of Pokémon GO and Pokémon Sun/Moon really fail us? Impossibru!


lol

The fact that you want people to have the Nintendo Switch is really sad. I'll rather give it to some kid who never experienced the true golden age of Nintendo (1986-2001). Especially since I only grew up with the original Wii in the late 2000s. But yet, it doesn't really matter after Nintendo did as bad as Sega ever since the Wii U was launched. The only people who would buy the Switch are those who grew up with either the NES, SNES, or even the N64. Did I grew up with these consoles? No. I only had the ROM files of those games, and I barely played it on a physical console. Which is actually sad, because I had this conversation like this on IGN, and they said that playing emulators is lame compared to the real experience.

That's like me trying to remember 9/11, except I was only an infant back then. Plus, even if I remembered anything relevant towards that day, it would be more towards watching Elmo or something. That's how much I didn't understand about terrorist attacks as a baby. It would be marvelous if any baby back in 2001 remembered the attacks, and recalled it 100% clear as anybody else. Why the f*ck would people be persuaded to buy a Nintendo Switch, if it's the weakest modern video game console ever? Even Sony and Microsoft fanboys at least have something to enjoy with, since both the PS4 and Xbox One is already compatible with DVDs. Has any Nintendo console been compatible with either DVDs or even CDs? No. It's embarrassing for Nintendo to be like this, even though they were top of the world during the late 1980s, 1990s, and even the early-mid 2000s.

Just really face it, Slowpoke. Nintendo is the new Sega. The Wii U was just the Wii on life support, just like the 32x was the Sega Genesis on life support. As much as I have to say it, it's really a sad experience for Nintendo. For anything, I would rather go and get myself some new PC games. It would most likely be on Steam, but at least it would be better than buying an abomination that's way behind its marketing. 

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: muppethammer26 on 01/25/17 at 9:08 pm

At least no one's milking on the generation threads anymore.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: tv on 01/25/17 at 11:14 pm


I think people would see that in the early 2020s, since Trump would be still be president until January 20, 2021. Or unless he gets elected again in 2020, then I guess we have to suffer four more years with him.
Trump(2017-2020) maybe like Carter(1977-1980) and just be around for the later part of the decade.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: tv on 01/25/17 at 11:22 pm


As I've said before I think the left can be too PC at times...but looking at it realistically I realize it's just such small potatoes compared to handing the power of the Presidency to someone like Trump. The fact that he hasn't toned it down at all during the transition (still acting like a fool on twitter along with his cabinet appointments) re-enforces it even more the danger this guy poses to the republic. He seems to be appointing people that want to get rid of the departments they're supposed to head. You got a climate change denying oil lobby suck up (Pruitt) for EPA, the lady who wants to get rid of public schools for education (DeVos), Perry who said he'd get rid of the Energy Department for you guessed it Secretary of Energy, the confederate sympathizer (Sessions) for Attorney General, a freaking fast food CEO (Puzder) for Secretary of Labor. The whole thing is insane really.
Yeah but Obama had a lot of people from academia in his cabinet and that didn't work out so well. So lets see if Trump's cabinet works out better than Obama's...

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: tv on 01/25/17 at 11:26 pm


I agree.  In 2-3 years, I guarantee that some of Obama's biggest criticizers will be missing the Obama era.  They will look back and think that maybe he wasn't so bad.  A similar thing happened with Clinton in the '00s, though I think that Obama's overall legacy will be much larger and stronger than Bill Clinton's.
I miss Bill Clinton since he was the last good President that we had.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: tv on 01/25/17 at 11:29 pm


Americans don't really think about communism that much, aside from the people who were uneducated for a long time. Some of them think the Chinese made global warming though.
China does pollute more than the US does not to say that the Chinese made Global Warming though.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: tv on 01/25/17 at 11:42 pm


Pretty much the mid to late 50's was when mainstream music became bearable. I'd say it set up the mainstream to be great all the way up until the late 90's/early 00's. I don't know how it works though, it was like once rock and roll was out of its cage in the late 50's it set up some sort of snowball effect, for decades!  :o

Then came sexney Spears in 1999 and music went downhill, or at least started to!  :-X  :-X
She had a great music video (with the school girl outfit) with a catchy song "Baby One More Time" to go along with it.  She sold 25 million combined of her first 2 albums which is a hard thing to do.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/26/17 at 8:40 pm

I hereby decree that the late 2010s will be sh*t, and there's no point in being hopeful about it unless you enjoy being disappointed. However, this will drive market pressures and result in unprecedented investments in virtual reality technology and of course the Nintendo Switch, available March 3rd. Palmer Luckey's grand master plan.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 01/26/17 at 9:02 pm


I hereby decree that the late 2010s will be sh*t, and there's no point in being hopeful about it unless you enjoy being disappointed. However, this will drive market pressures and result in unprecedented investments in virtual reality technology and of course the Nintendo Switch, available March 3rd. Palmer Luckey's grand master plan.


I agree with this.  I am not hopeful at all.  This is going to be a rough four years.  Actually this entire decade has been the decade from hell for me.  The only part that was decent was the early '10s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/26/17 at 9:25 pm


I hereby decree that the late 2010s will be sh*t, and there's no point in being hopeful about it unless you enjoy being disappointed. However, this will drive market pressures and result in unprecedented investments in virtual reality technology and of course the Nintendo Switch, available March 3rd. Palmer Luckey's grand master plan.


Hopefully, Trump doesn't win a 2nd term.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/26/17 at 9:26 pm


Hopefully, Trump doesn't win a 2nd term.


Don't ever jinx that. I don't think a lot of people would want him for four more years.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/26/17 at 11:16 pm


I hereby decree that the late 2010s will be sh*t, and there's no point in being hopeful about it unless you enjoy being disappointed. However, this will drive market pressures and result in unprecedented investments in virtual reality technology and of course the Nintendo Switch, available March 3rd. Palmer Luckey's grand master plan.

I think the late 10s will be decent. We'll need to wait and see. 2017 only just started and the late 10s were only around for technically 5 months.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/26/17 at 11:32 pm


Hopefully, Trump doesn't win a 2nd term.


Yeah, I'm hoping for the same. Hopefully you will Switch (available March 3rd) your president by then.


I agree with this.  I am not hopeful at all.  This is going to be a rough four years.  Actually this entire decade has been the decade from hell for me.  The only part that was decent was the early '10s.


:(

(hugs)


I think the late 10s will be decent. We'll need to wait and see. 2017 only just started and the late 10s were only around for technically 5 months.


You hated the early '10s and mid '10s but think the late '10s will be decent? Where did that trend line come from? :P Let me guess... Switch hype? Me too.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/27/17 at 12:03 am


Yeah, I'm hoping for the same. Hopefully you will Switch (available March 3rd) your president by then.

:(

(hugs)

You hated the early '10s and mid '10s but think the late '10s will be decent? Where did that trend line come from? :P Let me guess... Switch hype? Me too.

Haha well I hated the early 10s the most and mid 10s were a little improvement and now hopefully the late 10s will be an improvement from that. So it does follow the pattern.  ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/27/17 at 7:22 am


Hopefully, Trump doesn't win a 2nd term.


That's if he lives up to his words.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: TheKid99 on 01/27/17 at 7:26 am

We will remember this decade for a long long time....

Not the music which absolutely sucked(except for the underground pop punk scene which is really booming! :D ).... but the events...

Recession WILL happen before 2020.... that I can garauntee.... and the more and more we put off the Recession with the Fed supporting the economy with easy money... the more and more worse it will be.

Trump has little control in that factor...

I slightly approve of Trump so far... he just needs to STAY ON FOCUS AND NOT GETTING IN HONESTLY INSANELY PETTY POLITICIAL BATTLES... sigh... if he just focuses on tweeting his policy and ideas and focuses on working for the common man instead of fueding every single day... he could be a good president...

Oh and currency markets are saying by far Trump is winning his little skirmish with the Mexican President with the Peso being absolutely hammered yesterday while the USD rose signficantly.

Trump proved to me this week that he will not change in Washington but at the same time he is a hard worker who will try his best(even obsessively so) to keep his campaign promises.

The Late 2010s transition started in July 2016.... that I can see.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/27/17 at 7:28 am


I think the late 10s will be decent. We'll need to wait and see. 2017 only just started and the late 10s were only around for technically 5 months.


In all honesty, the late 2010s would be lame as hell. The only thing that would make people laugh and cry is the fact that Trump is America's president. Hell, the rest of this decade's pop culture would be picking on Trump. Especially since he has a Twitter that is well known on the site.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/27/17 at 7:15 pm

Trump’s Immigration Ban Excludes Countries With Business Ties

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-trump-immigration-ban-conflict-of-interest/

Anyone else plans on registering as Muslims if he starts a registry?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/27/17 at 7:19 pm


Trump’s Immigration Ban Excludes Countries With Business Ties

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-trump-immigration-ban-conflict-of-interest/

Anyone else plans on registering as Muslims if he starts a registry?


I'll rather live in America, even if it's run by a person who doesn't know what he's doing.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/27/17 at 7:32 pm


I'll rather live in America, even if it's run by a person who doesn't know what he's doing.


If a guy is willing to deport and imprison suspected Muslim US citizens, what do you think he'll start doing to citizens who disagree with him?

You gonna keep your head down through the whole thing?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/27/17 at 7:49 pm


If a guy is willing to deport and imprison suspected Muslim US citizens, what do you think he'll start doing to citizens who disagree with him?


But that's the point. If you're considered as a Muslim, then you'll get kicked out as a citizen. I seriously don't want that, since I was born in America. Even if I move to a Middle Eastern country (which has the majority population of Muslims), then I'll either get executed, whipped, tortured, poisoned, assaulted, murdered, etc. Most of their governments don't like Americans, nor any other western country.


You gonna keep your head down through the whole thing?


What else am I gonna do? Verbally assault Trump? It's just gonna lead into more disasters.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/27/17 at 7:58 pm


But that's the point. If you're considered as a Muslim, then you'll get kicked out as a citizen. I seriously don't want that, since I was born in America. Even if I move to a Middle Eastern country (which has the majority population of Muslims), then I'll either get executed, whipped, tortured, poisoned, assaulted, murdered, etc. Most of their governments don't like Americans, nor any other western country.

What else am I gonna do? Verbally assault Trump? It's just gonna lead into more disasters.


I hope you get out and travel toe some of those countries one day. You'll be surprised. That's all I can say about your first paragraph.

As for your second, I just find that sad, but I can't expect everyone to be a fighter.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/27/17 at 8:27 pm


I hope you get out and travel toe some of those countries one day. You'll be surprised. That's all I can say about your first paragraph.


So basically, I should go to countries like Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia, and feel happy being there. Why would I want to do that, if they don't even have freedom of speech? You can't even do a lot of things freely, unless you were a men. Plus, if I do one thing very Western in public, then I'll get arrested.

Have you ever understand that Americans are demonized in the Middle East? Why do you think ISIS and Al-Qaeda sympathizers chant "Death to America", while burning American flags? Because we don't treat them well?! What kind of logic is that?


As for your second, I just find that sad, but I can't expect everyone to be a fighter.


Look, I just don't like Trump, but I don't think violence against him would be the answer. Yes, he doesn't follow criticism, and he would attack you with his tweets. However, I've dealt with worse things on the Internet that would make him look like a joke. Especially when I took things way too seriously when I was 14 and 15. It's stuff that I would regret time after time, but it reminds that I'm still alive to this day.

I don't even think it would solve anything towards people who actually supported Trump throughout this election. People have different political beliefs, and the First Amendment protects that. So saying that we should be deported in the country we were raised in is like a suicide mission to me.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/27/17 at 10:57 pm


But that's the point. If you're considered as a Muslim, then you'll get kicked out as a citizen. I seriously don't want that, since I was born in America. Even if I move to a Middle Eastern country (which has the majority population of Muslims), then I'll either get executed, whipped, tortured, poisoned, assaulted, murdered, etc. Most of their governments don't like Americans, nor any other western country.

What else am I gonna do? Verbally assault Trump? It's just gonna lead into more disasters.


You're waaaaay more likely to be shot as a Muslim in the US than as anyone in the non-war torn Middle Eastern countries. The US is one of the most dangerous countries in the world for murders. In contrast, a lot of Muslim countries like Kuwait, Indonesia, UAE etc. are among the safest countries in the world. You can check for yourself https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Lowest murder rates
(#4 Japan)
(#6 Iceland)
#7 Kuwait
#8 Indonesia
#10 Bahrain
(#14 Norway)
#17 United Arab Emirates
(#21 Spain)
#25 Saudi Arabia
(#32 Germany)
#35 Morocco
...
...
#50 Algeria
(#51 Canada)
...
...
...
#105 Uzbekistan
(#108 United States of America)
#110 Iran

I included non-Muslim countries in brackets for comparison.

No need for crazy stereotypes. As BornIn86 said, you need to get out more. A lot of Americans live in countries like the UAE and Saudi Arabia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_diaspora)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 01/27/17 at 11:32 pm

I've traveled to a lot of muslim countries and they were absolutely safe and accepted people from different countries/religions.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 01/28/17 at 1:00 am

I fell and scraped my knee! I don't trust this America you speak of!  >:(  >:(  >:(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/28/17 at 6:55 am

America is where I was born in.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 01/28/17 at 6:57 am


I've traveled to a lot of muslim countries and they were absolutely safe and accepted people from different countries/religions.


So, they're not as violent as what you see on TV? ???

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/28/17 at 10:47 am


You're waaaaay more likely to be shot as a Muslim in the US than as anyone in the non-war torn Middle Eastern countries. The US is one of the most dangerous countries in the world for murders. In contrast, a lot of Muslim countries like Kuwait, Indonesia, UAE etc. are among the safest countries in the world. You can check for yourself https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Lowest murder rates
(#4 Japan)
(#6 Iceland)
#7 Kuwait
#8 Indonesia
#10 Bahrain
(#14 Norway)
#17 United Arab Emirates
(#21 Spain)
#25 Saudi Arabia
(#32 Germany)
#35 Morocco
...
...
#50 Algeria
(#51 Canada)
...
...
...
#105 Uzbekistan
(#108 United States of America)
#110 Iran


So.. if Iran, a Middle Eastern country, has higher death rates than America, then why would I wanna go there? I think I should explain myself more better. I'm an agnostic atheist, who pretty much likes a lot of things American. Add to the fact that I also like a lot of Jewish stuff, and have a few Jewish friends, I don't think I would fit right well into the Middle East. Because in most Middle Eastern countries, they would most likely give you death penalties for being an ATHEIST.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_the_Middle_East#Persecution_of_atheists_in_the_Middle_East

I could get that America hates Muslims too, but the point is that I do not want to be a Muslim, to avoid persecution in most states. Especially when Trump wants Middle Eastern refugees out of the country, it's more of a big deal if I told I'm a Muslim.


No need for crazy stereotypes. As BornIn86 said, you need to get out more. A lot of Americans live in countries like the UAE and Saudi Arabia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_diaspora)


I would like to go out more, but not in the Middle East of all things. Especially when my father is in a wheelchair, and he can't really live on his own without my mother's income. I can't even get out because I still have school to go to. Have I ever mention that I'm 17?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/28/17 at 4:24 pm


So.. if Iran, a Middle Eastern country, has higher death rates than America, then why would I wanna go there? I think I should explain myself more better. I'm an agnostic atheist, who pretty much likes a lot of things American. Add to the fact that I also like a lot of Jewish stuff, and have a few Jewish friends, I don't think I would fit right well into the Middle East. Because in most Middle Eastern countries, they would most likely give you death penalties for being an ATHEIST.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_the_Middle_East#Persecution_of_atheists_in_the_Middle_East



Iran isn't significantly more dangerous than America, they are about as safe as each other, at least going by murder rates. If you trust yourself to not get murdered walking the streets of New York, then T ehran* shouldn't be cause for much trouble either.  Besides, Iran is not the only country in the Middle East, far from it, it's a very different country from the Arab countries/Israel/Turkey. What you're saying is the equivalent of "I don't want to go to London. Europe is very dangerous; just look at Ukraine".

Treatment of atheists is bad in Muslim countries, but the focus is on the apostasy of ex-Muslims, rather than all atheists. You're not Muslim, never were, your religion or lack thereof will not be considered a problem in most Middle Eastern countries. The death penalty is not for atheism, the death penalty is for apostasy. A subtle but important difference. Your fears are unfounded. Rest assured, since you don't have a vagina and aren't LGBT, you don't have anything to worry about when travelling to most Middle Eastern countries.


I could get that America hates Muslims too, but the point is that I do not want to be a Muslim, to avoid persecution in most states. Especially when Trump wants Middle Eastern refugees out of the country, it's more of a big deal if I told I'm a Muslim.


BornIn86 was arguing for non-Muslims to sign up for the Muslim registry as a protest move, to make the registry unreliable, not to convert to Islam.


I would like to go out more, but not in the Middle East of all things. Especially when my father is in a wheelchair, and he can't really live on his own without my mother's income. I can't even get out because I still have school to go to. Have I ever mention that I'm 17?



Generally, it's not wise to say absurd things about countries you don't know much about, regardless of life situation. Stereotyping usually leads to being incorrect, and you could really offend someone.

*For some reason inthe00s keeps filtering T e h r a n (capital of Iran) into theran. Strange. ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/28/17 at 4:42 pm


I've traveled to a lot of muslim countries and they were absolutely safe and accepted people from different countries/religions.


Neato! Which ones did you go to? :D

Of those countries, I went through a Gulf countries tour in 1999, and hit up Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar and UAE. They all felt really safe, and there were a lot of British immigrants living there, whom I'm sure many were atheist. I went to Bahrain again in 2006. Love that country, shame about the political situation.  :-\\

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/28/17 at 5:55 pm


BornIn86 was arguing for non-Muslims to sign up for the Muslim registry as a protest move, to make the registry unreliable, not to convert to Islam.


Even if I wanted to get out of this country, I'll rather go to Canada or the United Kingdom.

Generally, it's not wise to say absurd things about countries you don't know much about, regardless of life situation. Stereotyping usually leads to being incorrect, and you could really offend someone.

What does to have to do with stereotyping? I just don't want to go to the Middle East. I don't think a lot of Muslims are fundamentalist, especially in the Middle East. It's just that I feel uncomfortable talking about the Middle East, if it has to deal with me going there. Even though it would never happen to me.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 01/29/17 at 6:13 pm


What does to have to do with stereotyping?


Even if I move to a Middle Eastern country (which has the majority population of Muslims), then I'll either get executed, whipped, tortured, poisoned, assaulted, murdered, etc. Most of their governments don't like Americans, nor any other western country.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 01/29/17 at 6:56 pm


Even if I move to a Middle Eastern country (which has the majority population of Muslims), then I'll either get executed, whipped, tortured, poisoned, assaulted, murdered, etc. Most of their governments don't like Americans, nor any other western country.
-NewYorkEagle


I just don't want to move out of America and go to another country for the rest of my life. Not that I want to go to vacation in a country near the Middle East. Maybe I'll rather go to Israel. It's not like I'm completely honest towards anything with politics. I don't even like either the Democrats nor the Republicans.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/02/17 at 4:32 pm

The alt-right does something good, kills the undercut hairstyle

Women are associating the hairstyle with the fachos, it's only a matter of time. :o

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 02/02/17 at 5:06 pm


The alt-right does something good, kills the undercut hairstyle

Women are associating the hairstyle with the fachos, it's only a matter of time. :o

Called it! This hairstyle was made great by these loons.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/02/17 at 6:27 pm


Called it! This hairstyle was made great by these loons.


I always thought the Brexit kids looked a bit too fancy. At the time I dismissed them as rich, white London Tory kids but now I hear that there are alternative explanations.

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/06/24/10/brexit-3.jpg

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/02/17 at 6:35 pm

By 2019, I'm not sure if America will still be here, with the Orange one still in office.  ::)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 02/02/17 at 11:52 pm

I am heavily nostalgic for the early 2010s with everything going on.  Lady Gaga is playing the Superbowl and I was thinking about how much simpler and optimistic life was back when she was popular.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 02/03/17 at 7:17 am


The alt-right does something good, kills the undercut hairstyle

Women are associating the hairstyle with the fachos, it's only a matter of time. :o


How do you keep that hairstyle in place?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/03/17 at 8:35 am


How do you keep that hairstyle in place?


Loads upon loads of gel.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/03/17 at 8:35 am


I am heavily nostalgic for the early 2010s with everything going on.  Lady Gaga is playing the Superbowl and I was thinking about how much simpler and optimistic life was back when she was popular.


I'm still surprised by the fact that a lot of the issues we face today didn't even exist in the early '10s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: stefanvh on 02/03/17 at 10:08 am

Now that we have a new "Republican" president (even though he's switched party multiple times), I'm really feeling like it is as good a time as any to try and relive the early 2000s :P

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/03/17 at 10:47 am


I am heavily nostalgic for the early 2010s with everything going on.  Lady Gaga is playing the Superbowl and I was thinking about how much simpler and optimistic life was back when she was popular.


I can't believe I'm saying this, but 2009/2010 just feel "old" now. That was definitely a different time. Hard to believe we were all 8 years younger in 2009  :o


Now that we have a new "Republican" president (even though he's switched party multiple times), I'm really feeling like it is as good a time as any to try and relive the early 2000s :P


With the election of Trump, the early 2000s go beyond outdated and now feel other-worldly and almost disconnected from today's times, particularly the pre-9/11 early 2000s. Al-Qaeda won.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 02/03/17 at 11:01 am


With the election of Trump, the early 2000s go beyond outdated and now feel other-worldly and almost disconnected from today's times, particularly the pre-9/11 early 2000s. Al-Qaeda won.


I was actually thinking last night about how I would take George Bush any day over Donald Trump.  Bush was incompetent in his own way, but he might as well be Einstein compared to Cheeto Jesus.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/03/17 at 11:53 am


I can't believe I'm saying this, but 2009/2010 just feel "old" now. That was definitely a different time. Hard to believe we were all 8 years younger in 2009  :o

2009/2010 doesn't feel like a different time quite yet. Not that old but still dated, culturally speaking of course. For my personal life it is definitely another world.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/03/17 at 12:09 pm


I was actually thinking last night about how I would take George Bush any day over Donald Trump.  Bush was incompetent in his own way, but he might as well be Einstein compared to Cheeto Jesus.

At least Trump isn't a neocon.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 02/03/17 at 12:12 pm

but Trump is still an authoritarian and doesn't really like differing views. The environment wasn't part of his policy, and the way he took it was to send a gag order unto the EPA.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Brian06 on 02/03/17 at 12:18 pm


I was actually thinking last night about how I would take George Bush any day over Donald Trump.  Bush was incompetent in his own way, but he might as well be Einstein compared to Cheeto Jesus.


Trump seems to be making a lot of people nostalgic for Bush, back in 2009 that would have seemed impossible. So that's one thing Trump "accomplished" so far I guess. Bush seems like Abe Lincoln compared to Dump. ::) Bush was sort of a lovable idiot, Trump on the other hand is nothing but a cold hearted mean jerk.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Brian06 on 02/03/17 at 12:23 pm


I can't believe I'm saying this, but 2009/2010 just feel "old" now. That was definitely a different time. Hard to believe we were all 8 years younger in 2009  :o

With the election of Trump, the early 2000s go beyond outdated and now feel other-worldly and almost disconnected from today's times, particularly the pre-9/11 early 2000s. Al-Qaeda won.


To think in 2001 Republican President George W. Bush, right after 9/11 went to a mosque and called Islam a "religion of peace". Can you imagine a Republican doing such a thing today? Yeah it seems surreal to think now. Al Qaeda is indeed winning in the long term, the USA is becoming just like them. The current Republican president just banned millions of muslims from entering the country and didn't mention Jews on Holocaust Remember Day.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: stefanvh on 02/03/17 at 1:00 pm


I can't believe I'm saying this, but 2009/2010 just feel "old" now. That was definitely a different time. Hard to believe we were all 8 years younger in 2009  :o


Agreed, even 2012 seems "old" to me. I was still in high school, Obama just won a second term, Al-Qaeda seemed on the run (even though it really wasn't), and the biggest issue was Benghazi. Life was simpler back then.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/03/17 at 2:48 pm


2009/2010 doesn't feel like a different time quite yet. Not that old but still dated, culturally speaking of course. For my personal life it is definitely another world.


The whole Blackberry with the netbooks and pushing the hand sanitizer button to immunize against H1N1 though... The obession with 3DTVs, the iPod nanos. Kelly Clarkson, Usher and All-American Rejects still topping the charts... Maybe it's the nostalgia, but there's something about it that feels so quaint.  ;D


At least Trump isn't a neocon.


The only foreign policy ideology more detestable than neoconservatism is nationalism. It has all the lamentable aspects of neoconservatism: namely, war and strong arming countries to do what you want, except this time it isn't about morality and spreading your civic culture, but instead about pillaging and plundering, oh, I should say "advancing national interests". I may have rallied against Bush for his unjustified wars, but at least one could argue his heart was (ultimately) in the right place: to liberate Iraq/Afghanistan from their oppressive regimes. At first everyone thought Trump was an isolationist, but his recent military intervention in Yemen, and him threatening war with Iran and Mexico, and saying that the war in Iraq would be justified "if we took the oil", suggests he still thinks the US has a role to play on the world stage.


To think in 2001 Republican President George W. Bush, right after 9/11 went to a mosque and called Islam a "religion of peace". Can you imagine a Republican doing such a thing today? Yeah it seems surreal to think now. Al Qaeda is indeed winning in the long term, the USA is becoming just like them. The current Republican president just banned millions of muslims from entering the country and didn't mention Jews on Holocaust Remember Day.


George Bush started the Iraq War, but he had the moral conscience to create the process that would eventually take in 115,000 Iraqi refugees who were displaced by the war, including many minorities fleeing persecution like Christians and Kurds. Trump is on record for being a supporter of the war in 2002, he (or his office) destabilized the country and put many lives into peril, yet refuses to take any responsibility for what is going on there and banned even legal Iraqis and American residents (including many who aided the US army in the war) from entering the country. I can't believe he has us defending George W. Bush of all people; he's just that bad ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/03/17 at 3:01 pm


Agreed, even 2012 seems "old" to me. I was still in high school, Obama just won a second term, Al-Qaeda seemed on the run (even though it really wasn't), and the biggest issue was Benghazi. Life was simpler back then.

I'm ready for Gangnam Style Part 2.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/03/17 at 3:20 pm

It's official, 2000 to 2002 are 'old' to me. Not ancient, like ancient Rome, or the time of the dinosaurs, or anything, like that.  ;D
But definitely feels like a lifetime ago to me, personal-life wise, and pop culturally!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/03/17 at 3:28 pm


I'm ready for Gangnam Style Part 2.


no. just no.  >:(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Brian06 on 02/03/17 at 3:53 pm



George Bush started the Iraq War, but he had the moral conscience to create the process that would eventually take in 115,000 Iraqi refugees who were displaced by the war, including many minorities fleeing persecution like Christians and Kurds. Trump is on record for being a supporter of the war in 2002, he (or his office) destabilized the country and put many lives into peril, yet refuses to take any responsibility for what is going on there and banned even legal Iraqis and American residents (including many who aided the US army in the war) from entering the country. I can't believe he has us defending George W. Bush of all people; he's just that bad ;D


The way Trump is going so far, he might be the one to start World War III.  :o

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/03/17 at 4:02 pm


I'm ready for Gangnam Style Part 2.


umDr0mPuyQc

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 02/03/17 at 4:07 pm


Loads upon loads of gel.


and hairspray too?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 02/03/17 at 4:09 pm


The way Trump is going so far, he might be the one to start World War III.  :o


Then you might has well have him impeached. ::)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 02/03/17 at 4:31 pm


It's official, 2000 to 2002 are 'old' to me. Not ancient, like ancient Rome, or the time of the dinosaurs, or anything, like that.  ;D
But definitely feels like a lifetime ago to me, personal-life wise, and pop culturally!


As someone who was only a toddler at the time, the Early 2000s definitely feel like a completely different world to me. It's hard to explain, but for me personally, they have a "mysterious" feel to them. I only have vague memories of 2001 and 2002, but I can remember 2003 vividly.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Brian06 on 02/03/17 at 4:41 pm


As someone who was only a toddler at the time, the Early 2000s definitely feel like a completely different world to me. It's hard to explain, but for me personally, they have a "mysterious" feel to them. I only have vague memories of 2001 and 2002, but I can remember 2003 vividly.


I was a teenager at the time and I think the early '00s compared to now are very old too. It's all relative as time passes it's really weird. In say 2001 I thought things were so "modern" then, now as I've witnessed 16 years of changes 2001 does now seem essentially "retro" to me compared to what I see now. I was much younger then, a 14 year old of 2001 like me is now turning 30. I was the same age then as someone born in 2003 is now, pretty weird to think.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/03/17 at 5:14 pm


!!


What?! It was fun! I can still pull it off :D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/03/17 at 5:42 pm


It's official, 2000 to 2002 are 'old' to me. Not ancient, like ancient Rome, or the time of the dinosaurs, or anything, like that.  ;D
But definitely feels like a lifetime ago to me, personal-life wise, and pop culturally!

They're not retro yet, just very dated. "Old" can be anything really including last week haha.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/03/17 at 5:48 pm


What?! It was fun! I can still pull it off :D


NO! We don't need that to come back!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/03/17 at 5:52 pm


NO! We don't need that to come back!


Yeah, especially when it just reminds me of my depressing 8th grade year.  :(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/03/17 at 5:59 pm


NO! We don't need that to come back!


I bet you think Macarena is great though. Keeping up the double standard! >:(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/03/17 at 6:01 pm


I bet you think Macarena is great though. Keeping up the double standard! >:(


But the Macarena is 10,000x better than Gangnam Style of all things. It was brought back with perfect altitude.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/03/17 at 6:12 pm


Yeah, especially when it just reminds me of my depressing 8th grade year.  :(


It came out in the summer though! It should remind you of the time you were freed ;D

It reminds me of my of the summer after first year uni. I actually heard the song before the MV came out! I was at my friend's house (he's Korean) and it was really late at night, like 2AM. I was staying over the night and he got wasted and passed out, so I was hanging out with his sister. We were watching a Korean music program, and that's when PSY came on and he debuted the song live. After the show was over I remarked "That was actually pretty fun. My favourite song was the Oppa Gangnam Style song, that song is pure fun". After about ~10 minutes after the show finished, the MV went up on YouTube and we laughed our asses off, probably watched it like 5 times. Two or three days later and the MV was showing up on CNN and stuff :o

I'm starting miss my early university years :(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: stefanvh on 02/03/17 at 6:46 pm


I'm ready for Gangnam Style Part 2.


What about Harlem Shake? :P

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/03/17 at 6:48 pm


But the Macarena is 10,000x better than Gangnam Style of all things. It was brought back with perfect altitude.


Mess! How do you even measure that. Gangnam Style was an intriguing critique on the class inequalities facing modern societies in the post-recession world, backed up by a fun party song. Macarena who?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/03/17 at 6:51 pm


What about Harlem Shake? :P


I danced to that too  :-[ :-[ :-[

Whatever happened to viral dance trends? I haven't seen one since Happy by Pharrell Williams. Sad!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/03/17 at 7:11 pm

I liked Gangnam Style. It was a pretty fun song. It's good for what it was.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/03/17 at 7:21 pm


As someone who was only a toddler at the time, the Early 2000s definitely feel like a completely different world to me. It's hard to explain, but for me personally, they have a "mysterious" feel to them. I only have vague memories of 2001 and 2002, but I can remember 2003 vividly.


What you feel about the early 00's is what I feel about 1991 to 1993!  :o

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: aja675 on 02/03/17 at 7:37 pm


What you feel about the early 00's is what I feel about 1991 to 1993!  :o

Or 1997 and 1998.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/03/17 at 7:53 pm


Or 1997 and 1998.


I'm guessin you were born at a different time than me.  :)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/03/17 at 7:56 pm


I liked Gangnam Style. It was a pretty fun song. It's good for what it was.

Our children will ask us – "Daddy, where were you when the Gangnam Style was a thing?" Then they'll want you to teach it to them. Not knowing it would be child neglect!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/04/17 at 5:00 am


Our children will ask us – "Daddy, where were you when the Gangnam Style was a thing?" Then they'll want you to teach it to them. Not knowing it would be child neglect!


Slowpoke is going to ruin the next generation. >:( I'll make sure that gangnum style never makes it past the 2010s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 02/04/17 at 7:00 am


NO! We don't need that to come back!


What needs to come back? ???

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 02/04/17 at 7:01 am


But the Macarena is 10,000x better than Gangnam Style of all things. It was brought back with perfect altitude.


The Macarena dance is sexy.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/04/17 at 9:52 pm


The Macarena dance is sexy.


In what universe? ???

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 02/04/17 at 11:25 pm


Our children will ask us – "Daddy, where were you when the Gangnam Style was a thing?" Then they'll want you to teach it to them. Not knowing it would be child neglect!


I think "What Does The Fox Say" fits this description more than Gangnam Style.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/04/17 at 11:43 pm


I think "What Does The Fox Say" fits this description more than Gangnam Style.

Now that's a song I despise.  >:( Awful song.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 02/05/17 at 2:47 pm


In what universe? ???


maybe it's the hip shaking.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/05/17 at 4:41 pm


Now that's a song I despise.  >:( Awful song.


I think being awful was the goal of the song.  ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/05/17 at 5:29 pm


What needs to come back? ???


To be honest nothing. I'm actually getting a bit tired of comebacks. Now I know comebacks have been a thing since the 20th century, but what makes an era great is when they make their own original stuff. People always complain about how 21st century decades don't feel unique (for a reason I've explained in another thread) yet they're part of the problem since instead of the current decades doing something new they'd just prefer for them to bring back something from older decades. Reliving old stuff certainly won't make a time period unique. Now if we get new things that are influenced somewhat by old things then it's fine. But I wouldn't want a 100% revival of old stuff. Can't progress if pop culture keeps trying to move backwards.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/05/17 at 5:40 pm

My prediction about Canada becoming the global super power seems to be coming closer. I mean, the New York Times said we're leading the free world. I expect great things for the early '20s! Soon, everyone will be speaking Canadian and saying "Heil Trudeau!"

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/05/17 at 5:46 pm


My prediction about Canada becoming the global super power seems to be coming closer. I mean, the New York Times said we're leading the free world. I expect great things for the early '20s! Soon, everyone will be speaking Canadian and saying "Heil Trudeau!"

Trudeau broke his promise on electoral reform.  >:( I think he will lose in 2019. And unfortunately racism is happening here too like last week's shooting in Quebec.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/05/17 at 5:53 pm


Trudeau broke his promise on electoral reform.  >:( I think he will lose in 2019. And unfortunately racism is happening here too like last week's shooting in Quebec.


I'm really pissed off about that too. That was half the reason I could stomach voting for him.  >:(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/05/17 at 7:36 pm


I'm really pissed off about that too. That was half the reason I could stomach voting for him.  >:(

That was one of the main reasons I voted for him too.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: nintieskid999 on 02/05/17 at 9:02 pm


To be honest nothing. I'm actually getting a bit tired of comebacks. Now I know comebacks have been a thing since the 20th century, but what makes an era great is when they make their own original stuff. People always complain about how 21st century decades don't feel unique (for a reason I've explained in another thread) yet they're part of the problem since instead of the current decades doing something new they'd just prefer for them to bring back something from older decades. Reliving old stuff certainly won't make a time period unique. Now if we get new things that are influenced somewhat by old things then it's fine. But I wouldn't want a 100% revival of old stuff. Can't progress if pop culture keeps trying to move backwards.


I want something new and GOOD. Not something new and blah. I'll continue to listen to past music until this music improves. The early 10s had some promise in music but then it disappeared.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/05/17 at 9:20 pm


I want something new and GOOD. Not something new and blah. I'll continue to listen to past music until this music improves. The early 10s had some promise in music but then it disappeared.

This music on now is way better than early 10s music but nowhere near good as early and mid 00s music.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 02/05/17 at 9:31 pm


This music on now is way better than early 10s music but nowhere near good as early and mid 00s music.


...and Early/Mid 2000s music is nowhere near as good as Early and Mid 90s music! :P

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/05/17 at 9:39 pm


...and Early/Mid 2000s music is nowhere near as good as Early and Mid 90s music! :P

That's definitely true too. Music started to suck around the late 90s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 02/05/17 at 9:45 pm


That's definitely true too. Music started to suck around the late 90s.


I agree. In my opinion, 1999 was when popular music really started to decline in quality. Personally, I believe 1996 was the last overall good year in popular music.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 02/05/17 at 10:28 pm


I want something new and GOOD. Not something new and blah. I'll continue to listen to past music until this music improves. The early 10s had some promise in music but then it disappeared.


I agree completely. Music that's new, just for the sake of being new, tends to be terrible.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: tv on 02/05/17 at 11:08 pm


I agree. In my opinion, 1999 was when popular music really started to decline in quality. Personally, I believe 1996 was the last overall good year in popular music.
Well 2004-mid 2005 is when music was still decent. Even 2006-mid 2007 there was some decent stuff but there was stuff like ringtone rap which was bad.

1999-2000 was an oddity back then when Teen-Pop pretty much dominated in the media because of TRL. In 2001-early 2003 music pretty much picked off from where it left off in 1997-1998 with A/C and R&B being dominant before 50 Cent arrived on the scene in real early Spring of 2003.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: tv on 02/05/17 at 11:13 pm


To think in 2001 Republican President George W. Bush, right after 9/11 went to a mosque and called Islam a "religion of peace". Can you imagine a Republican doing such a thing today? Yeah it seems surreal to think now. Al Qaeda is indeed winning in the long term, the USA is becoming just like them. The current Republican president just banned millions of muslims from entering the country and didn't mention Jews on Holocaust Remember Day.
Trump hardly banned all Muslims since 85% of Muslims were still allowed in Trump's executive order but 15% weren't. Now that the Circuit Judge in Seattle just paused Trumps executive order so the order is thrown out for the time being.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/06/17 at 12:06 am


Well 2004-mid 2005 is when music was still decent. Even 2006-mid 2007 there was some decent stuff but there was stuff like ringtone rap which was bad.

1999-2000 was an oddity back then when Teen-Pop pretty much dominated in the media because of TRL. In 2001-early 2003 music pretty much picked off from where it left off in 1997-1998 with A/C and R&B being dominant before 50 Cent arrived on the scene in real early Spring of 2003.

That's your opinion. I personally believe the downfall of music started around the late 1990s. But this is all subjective and relative anyway.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/06/17 at 11:20 am

Anyone wanna feel older than they already are? Well as of the late 2010s the kids being born now are all core 20's kids. Those born in 2017-2019 will be 10-12 by 2029.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/06/17 at 11:23 am


Well 2004-mid 2005 is when music was still decent. Even 2006-mid 2007 there was some decent stuff but there was stuff like ringtone rap which was bad.

1999-2000 was an oddity back then when Teen-Pop pretty much dominated in the media because of TRL. In 2001-early 2003 music pretty much picked off from where it left off in 1997-1998 with A/C and R&B being dominant before 50 Cent arrived on the scene in real early Spring of 2003.


Yeah, 2004-2005 music was alright. And early 2000s music was pretty much the same as late 1990s music for the most part. 1990s overall was alright with music. I don't think we've hit a decline until 2006 or so. But then things picked up again by around 2008-2012 for me.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: exodus08 on 02/06/17 at 12:23 pm

I'm hoping I'll say "Welcome to the '20s" on New Year's Day 2020.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/06/17 at 2:01 pm


I'm hoping I'll say "Welcome to the '20s" on New Year's Day 2020.


The 2020s in name alone sounds like an interesting decade. As a nice ring to it, I suppose. Probably since it's the first decade to have a repeated number. Last time this happened was the 1010s. We won't see this again until the 3030s which is 1010 years from now. So, uh, I'll see you all in the next millennium.

Maybe I'm just being a bit too optimistic, but if we're going by history the 2020s may be pretty decent.


...and Early/Mid 2000s music is nowhere near as good as Early and Mid 90s music! :P


And early-mid 90s music is terrible when compared to early to mid 40s music.  8)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/06/17 at 2:11 pm

Lady Gaga's performance yesterday was a slay. The electropop era nostalgia is real. Let's skip the 2000s and get to it!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/06/17 at 2:43 pm


Lady Gaga's performance yesterday was a slay. The electropop era nostalgia is real. Let's skip the 2000s and get to it!


When it came to teen culture Electro Pop was on everyone's radio. People couldn't get enough of it. I can see Electropop nostalgia happening. Now I ask one question. Is Electropop still somewhat popular in the late 2010s? If not then why?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 02/06/17 at 2:45 pm


To be honest nothing. I'm actually getting a bit tired of comebacks. Now I know comebacks have been a thing since the 20th century, but what makes an era great is when they make their own original stuff. People always complain about how 21st century decades don't feel unique (for a reason I've explained in another thread) yet they're part of the problem since instead of the current decades doing something new they'd just prefer for them to bring back something from older decades. Reliving old stuff certainly won't make a time period unique. Now if we get new things that are influenced somewhat by old things then it's fine. But I wouldn't want a 100% revival of old stuff. Can't progress if pop culture keeps trying to move backwards.


That also has to do with pro-wrestling too as well.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 02/06/17 at 2:58 pm


Lady Gaga's performance yesterday was a slay. The electropop era nostalgia is real. Let's skip the 2000s and get to it!

Better not leave out emo, scene and pop punk while you're at it.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/06/17 at 3:35 pm


The 2020s in name alone sounds like an interesting decade. As a nice ring to it, I suppose. Probably since it's the first decade to have a repeated number. Last time this happened was the 1010s. We won't see this again until the 3030s which is 1010 years from now. So, uh, I'll see you all in the next millennium.

Oh yeah I haven't thought of it that way. That is pretty cool. I think it will be a fun decade.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/06/17 at 3:37 pm


When it came to teen culture Electro Pop was on everyone's radio. People couldn't get enough of it. I can see Electropop nostalgia happening. Now I ask one question. Is Electropop still somewhat popular in the late 2010s? If not then why?

Electropop never died and it still is popular now. Only difference is in the early 10s it was faster and actual dance music and it used a little more apparent autotune effects. These days finding a song on the radio that is at least 130 bpm is like winning the lottery.  :P

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/06/17 at 4:05 pm


Oh yeah I haven't thought of it that way. That is pretty cool. I think it will be a fun decade.


I hope it's a fun decade. I don't think the 2010s is bad, but I do find it boring to me.  The 2010s has its fun moments, but lately it's been a bit boring for a while (at least to me. I'm sure my lack of praise for the current pop culture is mainly due to my own tastes). The 2020s will be an interesting decade. People start to take part into pop culture by the time they reach their late teens onward. So by the 2020s those born in the 1990s-2000s will probably be the mainstream pop cultural trend setters by the 2020s. So I can predict there will be a change in pop culture (at least when it comes to young/youth culture anyways, however, I'm not so sure for non-hip young culture). I'm also eager for economic growth that I see being predicted. Apparently history as a chance of repeating the 1920s or 1990s. Great economy can easily be accomplished with useful inventions that can enhance everyday life (due to so many people buying them and giving money to the economy which boost the economy and gives money back to the people. rinse and repeat.). In the 1920s there was things like the radio and automobiles that caused for the economy to be great due to high amounts of sales/popularity within the industries and the economy as a whole. For the 1990s it was the internet which is what caused for the economic boom of 1995 to ~2000. Now with the 2020s due to a lot of upcoming inventions that could boost everyday life some speculate that we may have another economic growth (whether or not it's an economic boom is still up in the air, but it'll be growth nonetheless). Cybernetic limbs, self driving cars, new updates of establish tech such as phones, medical advancements etc.

So the 2020s 'MIGHT' (I could easily be wrong) be a decent decade in terms of pop culture and economy which is why I'm eager for it. But it could easily end up being one of the worst decades if I'm dead wrong.


Electropop never died and it still is popular now. Only difference is in the early 10s it was faster and actual dance music and it used a little more apparent autotune effects. These days finding a song on the radio that is at least 130 bpm is like winning the lottery.  :P


I think this is probably just due to trends or something. I suppose people are now caught up in making music that sounds more emotional and thought provoking rather than music that will make your feet move in funky ways. I'm not expert on current music, but I actually haven't heard a lot of dance-y music as of late. Maybe I'm just listening to the wrong stuff or something.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/06/17 at 6:46 pm


Better not leave out emo, scene and pop punk while you're at it.


http://i.imgur.com/s79SkkJ.gif

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/06/17 at 6:55 pm

Pop music? Don't you mean, fun, ring pops???  :D  :D  :D

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ5KuBNpneW2l6xsk8yytSRVv1OvamyL9OsDCeIG_1f8CymbdNF

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/06/17 at 7:00 pm


Lady Gaga's performance yesterday was a slay. The electropop era nostalgia is real. Let's skip the 2000s and get to it!


She made crustydonna (Madonna) look crusty!  8)  8)  8)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/06/17 at 7:18 pm


http://i.imgur.com/s79SkkJ.gif


FALSE! If you have Talent then you don't freakin' need luck.  8)


Pop music? Don't you mean, fun, ring pops???  :D  :D  :D

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ5KuBNpneW2l6xsk8yytSRVv1OvamyL9OsDCeIG_1f8CymbdNF


I'm gonna turn Ring Pop into music. We have Pop music. I'm gonna make a genre called Candy Pop music. All the kids will love it.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/06/17 at 7:26 pm


FALSE! If you have Talent then you don't freakin' need luck.  8)

I'm gonna turn Ring Pop into music. We have Pop music. I'm gonna make a genre called Candy Pop music. All the kids will love it.


Fizzle pop!!!  :o

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/06/17 at 8:27 pm


FALSE! If you have Talent then you don't freakin' need luck.  8)


How anyone can say that in this post-Brexit world where the Chainsmokers and Ed Sheeran are dominating the charts and talenT like Weeknd is not... Luck is everything!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/06/17 at 8:32 pm


How anyone can say that in this post-Brexit world where the Chainsmokers and Ed Sheeran are dominating the charts and talenT like Weeknd is not... Luck is everything!


Crap. The late 2010s is already looking bad for music. We're in a world where luck determines popularity.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/06/17 at 8:33 pm

Anyone seen this?
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It basically takes the AR (Augmented Reality) trend that we're having nowadays and showing us what the future will be like once AR and VR become extremely huge and become a part of the way we live.  I think it looks pretty neat, but it's crazy how in-your-face the marketing advertisings will be.

I present the future, kids.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/06/17 at 8:44 pm


Anyone seen this?

It basically takes the AR (Augmented Reality) trend that we're having nowadays and showing us what the future will be like once AR and VR become extremely huge and become a part of the way we live.  I think it looks pretty neat, but it's crazy how in-your-face the marketing advertisings will be.

I present the future, kids.


It looks super cool but it's making the assumption that people will still go outside when VR becomes a thing lol. Also who stabbed her in the end there :o Less reasons to go outside.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/06/17 at 8:54 pm


It looks super cool but it's making the assumption that people will still go outside when VR becomes a thing lol. Also who stabbed her in the end there :o Less reasons to go outside.


Well that video mainly shows AR not VR. Did you notice that no one in that video had any goggles on?

AR is a step above Virtual Reality. AR is the blending of virtual reality and real life, as developers can create images within applications that blend in with contents in the real world. With AR, users are able to interact with virtual contents in the real world, and are able to distinguish between the two. VR  is all about the creation of a virtual world that users can interact with. This virtual world should be designed in such a way that users would find it difficult to tell the difference from what is real and what is not. Furthermore, VR is usually achieved by the wearing of a VR helmet or goggles similar to the Oculus Rift.

Both virtual reality and augmented reality are similar in the goal of immersing the user, though both systems to this in different ways. With AR, users continue to be in touch with the real world while interacting with virtual objects around them. With VR, the user is isolated from the real world while immersed in a world that is completely fabricated. As it stands, VR might work better for video games and social networking in a virtual environment, such as Second Life, or even PlayStation Home.

On the matter of VR, the technology is just stepping up to the plate. It's still far away from being this great thing for social encounters in a virtual world, but with the rise of the Oculus Rift, it is getting there. Both AR and VR will succeed; however, AR might have more commercial success though, because it does not completely take people out of the real world
.

Anyways AR is already more successful than VR and as time goes on could end up being a huge part of pop culture and everyday life.

As for why she was stabbed?  Don't know. But staying inside isn't any more safe. You could hurt yourself with a kitchen knife. Also people will still go outside with AR. VR is what will prevent people from going outside due to putting you into a Virtual World. AR will have you going through the Real World, but a Virtual layer on top of it. So you'd still go outside. Although I hope it won't be a hassle trying to figure out what is and isn't virtual to some.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/06/17 at 9:01 pm

But if she's not wearing glasses then how is she seeing all those things? :o

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/06/17 at 9:01 pm

Another video by the same guy.
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This looks cool and scary at the same time.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/06/17 at 9:03 pm


But if she's not wearing glasses then how is she seeing all those things? :o


AR, remember? One way that is predicted is that in the future we'll all either have modified eyes or contact lenses that'll allows us to see Virtual things within the AR world. So she's probably is doing one of these two.  You can also use your phone (as of the 2010s), but I'm sure this method will become outdated in the future.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/06/17 at 9:09 pm

I'd live for AR-assisted cooking :o


AR, remember? One way that is predicted is that in the future we'll all either have modified eyes or contact lenses that'll allows us to see Virtual things within the AR world. So she's probably is doing one of these two.  You can also use your phone (as of the 2010s), but I'm sure this method will become outdated in the future.


Haha, yeah, I associate AR with phones for now. AR contact-lenses would be cool but I'm not sure we can fit a GPS, hard-drives and processors into contact-lenses anytime soon :o

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/06/17 at 9:13 pm


I'd live for AR-assisted cooking :o


Same. You're making food and this virtual assisting chef pops up. Giving you directions on how to cook the food while also trying to advertise cooking tools to you.

"To make the smoothie you get the fruit and place it in the blender...............If you're in need of a blender why don't you try and order the Mega Shine Blender. Get it now for 10% off"

Listen to the virtual man or else you'll be stuck with your old 2002 blender can barely cut through rice paper. Give in the consumer society and let corporations take over your life. 8)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/06/17 at 11:09 pm


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This looks like an LSD trip  :o

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/06/17 at 11:09 pm


I'd live for AR-assisted cooking :o

Haha, yeah, I associate AR with phones for now. AR contact-lenses would be cool but I'm not sure we can fit a GPS, hard-drives and processors into contact-lenses anytime soon :o

Maybe in like 15 years they can make contact lenses like this. I associate AR with Hololens and Google Glass.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 02/07/17 at 7:48 am


http://i.imgur.com/s79SkkJ.gif

How about the style?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 02/07/17 at 2:38 pm


FALSE! If you have Talent then you don't freakin' need luck.  8)

I'm gonna turn Ring Pop into music. We have Pop music. I'm gonna make a genre called Candy Pop music. All the kids will love it.


What will that sound like?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/07/17 at 3:20 pm


What will that sound like?


It's similar to Bubble Gum Pop and will be something I'm sure would appeal to Preteens and teens. Very upbeat, dance able, high tempo etc. Basically like Bubble Gum Pop with a slight mix of Disco and/or Funk for that extra dance effect.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/08/17 at 8:12 pm

Get your bodies ready for Katy Perry to give LIFE to the putrid, rotting corpse of an era we call the late 2010s! The Queen of Pop is back!!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/08/17 at 8:18 pm


Get your bodies ready for Katy Perry to give LIFE to the putrid, rotting corpse of an era we call the late 2010s! The Queen of Pop is back!!


She'll have a new era and vibe this year.  :)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/08/17 at 8:56 pm


She'll have a new era and vibe this year.  :)


Katy Perry’s “Chained to the Rhythm” is the sonic crossroads between signature Perry staples such as “Last Friday Night” and “Birthday,” yet offers a glimpse at a grown, more aware pop singer. The superstar croons tales of dancing to the beat of “your favorite song,” lamenting the difficulty of breaking free of the world’s rhythm. Still, while the rest of the world’s pop giants are being outsourced to more obscure genres (think: Beyonce’s Lemonade and Lady Gaga’s Joanne), Perry provides just the pop anthem fans needed.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/08/17 at 9:56 pm

I really liked Gaga's Superbowl performance. It was dynamic.

I enjoy some of her music, but I don't consider myself a fan!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/09/17 at 10:17 am


Katy Perry’s “Chained to the Rhythm” is the sonic crossroads between signature Perry staples such as “Last Friday Night” and “Birthday,” yet offers a glimpse at a grown, more aware pop singer. The superstar croons tales of dancing to the beat of “your favorite song,” lamenting the difficulty of breaking free of the world’s rhythm. Still, while the rest of the world’s pop giants are being outsourced to more obscure genres (think: Beyonce’s Lemonade and Lady Gaga’s Joanne), Perry provides just the pop anthem fans needed.

I think it's gonna be a flop. No one cares about Katy Perry these days.  :-X

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/09/17 at 11:05 am


I think it's gonna be a flop. No one cares about Katy Perry these days.  :-X


Her last song, Rise, did okay, went to #11. Kind of a disappointment though, because it's Katy Perry.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/09/17 at 12:09 pm


I think it's gonna be a flop. No one cares about Katy Perry these days.  :-X


The group of preteen girls I hang out with would like to disagree :-X

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/09/17 at 6:03 pm


The group of preteen girls I hang out with would like to disagree :-X


We all know that when a person is a preteen they have terrible tastes. My tastes from when I was 11 certainly don't match what I like know.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/09/17 at 7:12 pm


We all know that when a person is a preteen they have terrible tastes. My tastes from when I was 11 certainly don't match what I like know.


Yeah but "flop" is implying it won't sell well.  :-X

My tastes from when I was 11 were pretty good though. Jordan would disagree but who cares.  :-X :-X

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Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/09/17 at 7:21 pm


The group of preteen girls I hang out with would like to disagree :-X


They were part of the hip, young, beige, crowd!  :o

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/09/17 at 7:25 pm


They were part of the hip, young, beige, crowd!  :o


I'll always be hip, beat, and tough!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/09/17 at 10:44 pm

20 minutes until the late 2010s reach their zenith!

Did you see these #WOKE lyrics??


Are we crazy
Living our lives through a lens?
Trapped in our white picket fence
Like ornaments
So comfortable, we live in a bubble, a bubble
So comfortable, we can’t see the trouble, the trouble
Are you lonely
Trapped up there in utopia?
When nothing will ever be good enough
Like ornaments
So comfortable, we live in a bubble, a bubble
So comfortable, we can’t see the trouble, the trouble


Aha, look so good
So put your rose-colored glasses on and party on


Turn it up, it's your favorite song
Dance, dance, dance to the distortion
Come on, turn it up, keep it on repeat
Stumbling around like a wasted zombie
Yeah, we think we're free
Drink, this one is on me
We're all chained to the rhythm, to the rhythm, to the rhythm
Turn it up, it's your favorite song
Dance, dance, dance to the distortion
Come on, turn it up, keep it on repeat
Stumbling around like a wasted zombie
Yeah, we think we're free
Drink, this one is on me
We're all chained to the rhythm, to the rhythm, to the rhythm


Are we tone deaf?
Keep sweeping it under the mat
Thought we can do better than that
I hope we can
So comfortable, we live in a bubble, a bubble
So comfortable, we can’t see the trouble, the trouble


Aha, look so good (so good)
So put your rose-colored glasses on and party on


Turn it up, it's your favorite song
Dance, dance, dance to the distortion
Come on, turn it up, keep it on repeat
Stumbling around like a wasted zombie
Yeah, we think we're free
Drink, this one is on me
We're all chained to the rhythm, to the rhythm, to the rhythm
Turn it up, it's your favorite song
Dance, dance, dance to the distortion
Come on, turn it up, keep it on repeat
Stumbling around like a wasted zombie
Yeah, we think we're free
Drink, this one is on me
We're all chained to the rhythm, to the rhythm, to the rhythm


It is my desire
Break down the walls
To connect, inspire, yeah
Up in the high
Time is ticking for the empire
The truth is that it is feeble
I saw it many times before
The greed of all the people
We're stumbling, we're crumbling
We woke up, we woke up the lions


Turn it up, it's your favorite song
Dance, dance, dance to the distortion
Come on, turn it up, keep it on repeat
Stumbling around like a wasted zombie
Yeah, we think we're free
Drink, this one is on me
We're all chained to the rhythm, to the rhythm, to the rhythm


Turn it up
Turn it up
On and on and on
On and on and on
'Cause we're all chained to the rhythm

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/09/17 at 11:15 pm


20 minutes until the late 2010s reach their zenith!

Did you see these #WOKE lyrics??

I think that song really sucks.  8-P

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/09/17 at 11:16 pm


Her last song, Rise, did okay, went to #11. Kind of a disappointment though, because it's Katy Perry.

That's why I think she's not very relevant anymore.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/09/17 at 11:20 pm


I think that song really sucks.  8-P


I like it! It starts off weak, but by the end.. oof!!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/09/17 at 11:24 pm


I like it! It starts off weak, but by the end.. oof!!

Well for me anyways I don't like most modern pop songs. It has to be very catchy in order for me to like it.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/09/17 at 11:26 pm


Well for me anyways I don't like most modern pop songs. It has to be very catchy in order for me to like it.


I'm here for the late 2010s if we get more protest songs!  8)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/12/17 at 5:00 am


I like it! It starts off weak, but by the end.. oof!!


I actually think it's okay. Nothing special, but it's listenable compared to most stuff on the top 100. It's more dancey compared to a lot of popular songs nowadays. If it does become popular, I hope artists begin livening up their music.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/12/17 at 9:05 am


I like it! It starts off weak, but by the end.. oof!!


The late 10's will be known, personally, as the years I came into myself.  8)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/12/17 at 12:19 pm

When it comes to music I wonder which artists will end up making the hit song that'll end up having a big effect on culture. A new kind of sound which will drive us forward and will be emulated by a lot of the musicians at the time. Also is it truth that dancey music has been on a decline? Not in terms of quality, but in terms of popularity. Some say that we don't get as many tracks that make you wanna get up as dance nowadays.


Also not like it's gonna be the end of the world to me, but why am I getting fudged for 2 month old posts? Funny that someone would down vote an outdated post.  ???

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/12/17 at 1:02 pm


I actually think it's okay. Nothing special, but it's listenable compared to most stuff on the top 100. It's more dancey compared to a lot of popular songs nowadays. If it does become popular, I hope artists begin livening up their music.


It's flopping though, mess! This is the biggest flop since Final Fantasy XV. The late 2010s are truly killing the establishment.

We probably won't be seeing more sings like that, but apparently Katy's entire album is disco/funk based so there might be some goodies in there.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/12/17 at 1:14 pm


When it comes to music I wonder which artists will end up making the hit song that'll end up having a big effect on culture. A new kind of sound which will drive us forward and will be emulated by a lot of the musicians at the time. Also is it truth that dancey music has been on a decline? Not in terms of quality, but in terms of popularity. Some say that we don't get as many tracks that make you wanna get up as dance nowadays.


Also not like it's gonna be the end of the world to me, but why am I getting fudged for 2 month old posts? Funny that someone would down vote an outdated post.  ???


It's still mostly dance songs in the top 40, whether they're danceable is another question though.  ;D

That was a fudge bomb. Everyone got fudged!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/12/17 at 1:31 pm


It's still mostly dance songs in the top 40, whether they're danceable is another question though.  ;D

That was a fudge bomb. Everyone got fudged!


Nowadays Dance songs aren't very danceable for some reason. The most they'll make me do is bob my head up and down. Although dance music from say 2010-2012 would get me on my feet often. Maybe it's just the current trend or something. Oh well. I still got Future Funk as my current 2010s dance music genre.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/12/17 at 2:08 pm


It's flopping though, mess! This is the biggest flop since Final Fantasy XV. The late 2010s are truly killing the establishment.

We probably won't be seeing more sings like that, but apparently Katy's entire album is disco/funk based so there might be some goodies in there.


Wasn't the song just released? How could it be flopping already?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 02/12/17 at 2:33 pm


Nowadays Dance songs aren't very danceable for some reason. The most they'll make me do is bob my head up and down. Although dance music from say 2010-2012 would get me on my feet often. Maybe it's just the current trend or something. Oh well. I still got Future Funk as my current 2010s dance music genre.


There's just hardly any rhythm in dance these days.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/12/17 at 2:34 pm


It's still mostly dance songs in the top 40, whether they're danceable is another question though.  ;D

That was a fudge bomb. Everyone got fudged!

Where do you see dance songs in the top 40?  ??? Most of the songs are really slow and have no dance to it except for some exceptions like some of those trendy trap songs.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/12/17 at 3:10 pm


Wasn't the song just released? How could it be flopping already?


It got a predicted 45k in first day sales.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/12/17 at 3:15 pm


Where do you see dance songs in the top 40?  ??? Most of the songs are really slow and have no dance to it except for some exceptions like some of those trendy trap songs.


I only know about half of the songs, but a cursory glance at the Spotify top 40 yields Shape of You, Paris, Rockabye, Starboy, Chained to the Rhythm, Closer, Chantaje, Let Me Love You, 24K Magic, Side to Side, One Dance and Cold Water.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/12/17 at 4:16 pm


It got a predicted 45k in first day sales.


Ah. I don't know how mainstream music work because I'm so hip and edgy.  ;D

The song is not particularly interesting. I just think it's better than everything in the top 20 except maybe Drake's Fake Love, Weeknd/Daft Punk's I Feel it Coming, and Bruno Mars 24k Magic

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/12/17 at 4:49 pm


I only know about half of the songs, but a cursory glance at the Spotify top 40 yields Shape of You, Paris, Rockabye, Starboy, Chained to the Rhythm, Closer, Chantaje, Let Me Love You, 24K Magic, Side to Side, One Dance and Cold Water.

None of those are dance songs though....

Ohh you mean dancehall songs? Remember there is a big difference between dancehall and dance music.  ;D Dance music is very fast upbeat club music sometimes people refer to as "drunk music". That's what I think of when I hear dance music. But yeah electronic dancehall music is definitely the primary trend right now.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/12/17 at 5:44 pm


When it comes to music I wonder which artists will end up making the hit song that'll end up having a big effect on culture. A new kind of sound which will drive us forward and will be emulated by a lot of the musicians at the time. Also is it truth that dancey music has been on a decline? Not in terms of quality, but in terms of popularity. Some say that we don't get as many tracks that make you wanna get up as dance nowadays.


Also not like it's gonna be the end of the world to me, but why am I getting fudged for 2 month old posts? Funny that someone would down vote an outdated post.  ???


I hope an artist comes and makes a huge impact, in a good way, like Michael Jackson.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slimeson on 02/12/17 at 6:43 pm

A big change the late 10's seem to be having musically in the U.K is the lack of number 1 singles, since streaming has contributed towards the charts.

2014 - 38 Number Ones
2016 - 10 Number Ones

So far in 2017 we're into mid Febuary and Ed Sheeren has been the only number 1.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/14/17 at 5:09 am

You know, this decade is making me start to doubt this whole "early - mid - late" model that we've been using. :P

Reason being is that 2015 and 2016 had a totally different vibe from 2014, yet they're all bunched together as "mid 2010s"! 2014 had none of this "political correctness", social justice warriors, identity politics, ISIS, refugee crisis, feminism, safe spaces, trigger warnings, and other things that permeated and smothered 2015-2016, leading us into this here Trump presidency.

Let's just accept that the whole "early - mid - late" thing is purely from a mathematical standpoint. Pop culture oftentimes doesn't sync up neatly with this system (just for instance, music in 1966 was leaning much more heavily to the psychedelic stuff of 1967-69 rather than the stuff of 1965).

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/14/17 at 11:10 am


You know, this decade is making me start to doubt this whole "early - mid - late" model that we've been using. :P

Reason being is that 2015 and 2016 had a totally different vibe from 2014, yet they're all bunched together as "mid 2010s"! 2014 had none of this "political correctness", social justice warriors, identity politics, ISIS, refugee crisis, feminism, safe spaces, trigger warnings, and other things that permeated and smothered 2015-2016, leading us into this here Trump presidency.

Let's just accept that the whole "early - mid - late" thing is purely from a mathematical standpoint. Pop culture oftentimes doesn't sync up neatly with this system (just for instance, music in 1966 was leaning much more heavily to the psychedelic stuff of 1967-69 rather than the stuff of 1965).


A lot of those things existed in 2009/2010 and even before, it's hardly a 2015 thing. The thing to learn here is that all changes are gradual, and there's hardly a massive shift that all occurs in one year (except in rare circumstances). ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/14/17 at 11:37 am


A lot of those things existed in 2009/2010 and even before, it's hardly a 2015 thing. The thing to learn here is that all changes are gradual, and there's hardly a massive shift that all occurs in one year (except in rare circumstances). ;D


Pretty much. You can only really notice changes over a decade in hindsight. We've NEVER been able to really pin down gradual changes and when/why a change had occur until after the decade has ended. It's always been this way. In 2023 people say that the 2020s feel just like the 2010s. But in the 2030s people will say that the 2010s culture/politics died by sometime in 2019-2021. Hindsight is where all knowledge is kept.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/14/17 at 3:55 pm

I'm curious if we'll see a new counter culture form by the very end of this decade. Almost every decades has some form of counter culture. In the 1920s it was Flapper Girls, 1950s had the Beat Generation, 1960s had Hippies, 1970s had Punk, 1990s had Grunge, 2000s had Scene/Emo, and the 2010s has Hipsters. All cultural movements that went against what was within mainstream media/pop culture in some way or another. A trend I've noticed is that they don't normally go over 10 years. The Hipster culture is big at the moment, but I don't see it last far in the 2020s. So I expect something else to replace it. Wonder what it might be.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 02/14/17 at 9:38 pm


I'm curious if we'll see a new counter culture form by the very end of this decade. Almost every decades has some form of counter culture. In the 1920s it was Flapper Girls, 1950s had the Beat Generation, 1960s had Hippies, 1970s had Punk, 1990s had Grunge, 2000s had Scene/Emo, and the 2010s has Hipsters. All cultural movements that went against what was within mainstream media/pop culture in some way or another. A trend I've noticed is that they don't normally go over 10 years. The Hipster culture is big at the moment, but I don't see it last far in the 2020s. So I expect something else to replace it. Wonder what it might be.


I doubt that the Hipster culture will still be popular after 2018/2019. I think that we are still in the peak of the Hipster era, but I have a feeling that it'll start to decline around 2018ish, but may linger on until 2020/2021ish before it's completely dead.

As for what will replace it, I don't know. I really hope it's something cool. All the counter-cultures from previous decades had a cool, badass feel to them. The hipsters just seem lame and wimpy to me.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 02/14/17 at 10:02 pm


I doubt that the Hipster culture will still be popular after 2018/2019. I think that we are still in the peak of the Hipster era, but I have a feeling that it'll start to decline around 2018ish, but may linger on until 2020/2021ish before it's completely dead.

As for what will replace it, I don't know. I really hope it's something cool. All the counter-cultures from previous decades had a cool, badass feel to them. The hipsters just seem lame and wimpy to me.


I'll dance on the grave of hipster. I'll take their frugal lifestyle, just not their sense of style. I want emo back.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 02/15/17 at 4:51 am


I'm curious if we'll see a new counter culture form by the very end of this decade. Almost every decades has some form of counter culture. In the 1920s it was Flapper Girls, 1950s had the Beat Generation, 1960s had Hippies, 1970s had Punk, 1990s had Grunge, 2000s had Scene/Emo, and the 2010s has Hipsters. All cultural movements that went against what was within mainstream media/pop culture in some way or another. A trend I've noticed is that they don't normally go over 10 years. The Hipster culture is big at the moment, but I don't see it last far in the 2020s. So I expect something else to replace it. Wonder what it might be.


If there is to be a new counter-culture by the end of this decade, the foundations for it are well and truly established, in my opinion. I know it's still only early days, but I think it's a bit concerning that despite the recent political and social events (such as Brexit, Donald Trump's inauguration) which have occurred, the culture has remained relatively unchanged.

At this stage, there just doesn't appear to be anything which may spur a counter-culture of mainstream significance, which is a completely different scenario to the counter-cultures of the 1950s, 60s, 70s, 90s and 2000s. For instance, the origins of the 1960s Hippie counter-culture can be traced back to the Late 1940s and by 1966, it had started to become well entrenched in mainstream culture. Society was gearing towards a drastic shift in values and ideals. It is evident in the music, tv shows, fashion and literature of the time. The same can't be said about Mid 2010s culture or the current culture.

I'm going to make a bold statement here, but I don't believe Hipsters will have a resounding influence on the overall culture of the 2010s. Despite what is often suggested, I have always viewed Hipster culture as being niche. I don't think it is the basis of a counter-culture of any kind and in 5-10 years time, I think it will be reflected in the same manner as Emo culture is viewed in the 2010s. It's something people will be nostalgic about, but it won't have an astounding effect on the decade's music, politics, literature, TV shows etc. I predict that Hipster culture will start to die-off at the start of next year and by 2021, it will be completely irrelevant.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/15/17 at 9:23 am

What a weird year 2017 is.  :P

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/15/17 at 11:00 am

The only reason 2017 exists is just so we could get away from 2016. 

You'll hear funny things like "2017 was boring, but at least it wasn't like 2016". Or "Hey remember 2016? No? Me neither."

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/15/17 at 11:39 am


What a weird year 2017 is.  :P

At least it's more stable than 2016 so far. But it's only February, still got 10 months of this year to see.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 02/15/17 at 2:50 pm


What a weird year 2017 is.  :P


The year just started, give it some time. ::)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/16/17 at 1:36 am


The year just started, give it some time. ::)


I will, Howard.  :)

One thing I noticed, though, is that the 21st century is fast moving away from the 20th.

I might be wrong, but I feel like by 2018, it'll be hard to see the current times as having much of a 20th century feel left in it.

Makes sense, since 2020 is only three years away!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/17/17 at 4:36 pm

10 February, 2017 – Katy Perry releases 'Chained to the Rhyme'
15 February, 2017 – Canada and Europe sign free trade agreement.
3 March, 2017 – Nintendo Switch releases.
17 March, 2017 – Pitbull releases Climate Change album.
?? March, 2017 – Trump gets impeached.
20 April, 2017 – Marijuana becomes legal.

Early 2017 is packed with events! :o

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/17/17 at 4:49 pm


10 February, 2017 – Katy Perry releases 'Chained to the Rhyme'
15 February, 2017 – Canada and Europe sign free trade agreement.
3 March, 2017 – Nintendo Switch releases.
17 March, 2017 – Pitbull releases Climate Change album.
?? March, 2017 – Trump gets impeached.
20 April, 2017 – Marijuana becomes legal.

Early 2017 is packed with events! :o


I become mentally stable in 2017, and rule the world!

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Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/17/17 at 11:34 pm


I become mentally stable in 2017, and rule the world!

http://download.lavadomefive.com/members/BigClawz/NewGFilms-GodzillaCrushesBuilding01.jpg


Dude, you're a raging like a madman! Crashin' through Japan like it's nothin'!!!! :D :D :D :D :D

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Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/17/17 at 11:37 pm


Dude, you're a raging like a madman! Crashin' through Japan like it's nothin'!!!! :D :D :D :D :D

https://filmfork-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/content/Godzilla%20-%209.gif


;D  ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/18/17 at 7:31 am


10 February, 2017 – Katy Perry releases 'Chained to the Rhyme'
15 February, 2017 – Canada and Europe sign free trade agreement.
3 March, 2017 – Nintendo Switch releases.
17 March, 2017 – Pitbull releases Climate Change album.
?? March, 2017 – Trump gets impeached.
20 April, 2017 – Marijuana becomes legal.

Early 2017 is packed with events! :o

t. CNN reporter

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/18/17 at 7:39 am


I become mentally stable in 2017, and rule the world!

http://download.lavadomefive.com/members/BigClawz/NewGFilms-GodzillaCrushesBuilding01.jpg


Why is Barney breaking buildings  :(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/18/17 at 8:44 am


t. CNN reporter


I work for Correct The Record.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/18/17 at 9:34 am


Why is Barney breaking buildings  :(


I see you didn't see the Origins of Barney movie. Before he was a stuff animal that came to life and loved children he was actually a stuffed animal that came to life and hated EVERYTHING! Movie won a ton of awards like the "I can't believe this movie exists" award, the "WTF is this sh*t" award, and best of all the "Most likely to be turned into a kid's TV show" award.  8)  Also M. Night Shyamalan will be directing the 2019 sequel. 

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: spf180 on 02/18/17 at 10:38 am


10 February, 2017 – Katy Perry releases 'Chained to the Rhyme'
15 February, 2017 – Canada and Europe sign free trade agreement.
3 March, 2017 – Nintendo Switch releases.
17 March, 2017 – Pitbull releases Climate Change album.
?? March, 2017 – Trump gets impeached.
20 April, 2017 – Marijuana becomes legal.

Early 2017 is packed with events! :o


Then later this year or next, it becomes legal in America too.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/18/17 at 10:44 am


Why is Barney breaking buildings  :(


>:(  >:(  >:(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/18/17 at 11:16 am


I see you didn't see the Origins of Barney movie. Before he was a stuff animal that came to life and loved children he was actually a stuffed animal that came to life and hated EVERYTHING! Movie won a ton of awards like the "I can't believe this movie exists" award, the "WTF is this sh*t" award, and best of all the "Most likely to be turned into a kid's TV show" award.  8)  Also M. Night Shyamalan will be directing the 2019 sequel.


Does he apologize though? If not, my whole life is a lie.  :\'(


Then later this year or next, it becomes legal in America too.


What makes you say that?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/18/17 at 11:24 am


Does he apologize though? If not, my whole life is a lie.  :\'(


NOPE! Barney was just a product used to control the minds of children anyways.  >:(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/18/17 at 11:26 am


NOPE! Barney was just a product used to control the minds of children anyways.  >:(


Reported for insulting my childhood.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/18/17 at 12:00 pm


NOPE! Barney was just a product used to control the minds of children anyways.  >:(


I'm too old to like Barney anymore. But roughly from 1992 to 1996 I loved Barney!  :)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/18/17 at 12:51 pm


I'm too old to like Barney anymore. But roughly from 1992 to 1996 I loved Barney!  :)


I was Barney's #1 fan around 1994-1998ish but around 2006-2008 when my sisters were 1-3 years old, and my computer desk was in the same room as their room, they had Barney playing on loop for hours, and I got all the nursery rhymes stuck in my head. It was hell! ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/18/17 at 12:58 pm

I never liked Barney. They made fun of him when I was going to school.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/18/17 at 1:03 pm


I never liked Barney. They made fun of him when I was going to school.


On my first day of Grade 2, I had a Teletubbies backpack, and the kids tortured me.  :\'(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: mqg96 on 02/18/17 at 1:35 pm

I hated Caillou more than Barney and Teletubbies combined. Real talk I hated that annoying little asshole as a preschooler and as an older kid.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/18/17 at 1:38 pm


I never liked Barney. They made fun of him when I was going to school.


Oh yeah, I heard the jokes and the taunts.  :P

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/18/17 at 1:41 pm


On my first day of Grade 2, I had a Teletubbies backpack, and the kids tortured me.  :\'(


i never got into the Telly-Tubboes! Their faces reminded me of possessed dolls!  :o  :o  :o

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: nintieskid999 on 02/18/17 at 3:32 pm

The 2010s are the decade from hell. I absolutely despise them. Early, late, middle, doesn't matter.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/18/17 at 4:07 pm


The 2010s are the decade from hell. I absolutely despise them. Early, late, middle, doesn't matter.


Some mainstream songs are okay, but overall, the mainstream is highly boring.
It isn't the first era I've found music boring, I would hate 1890's/1900's decade music.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/18/17 at 4:21 pm


The 2010s are the decade from hell. I absolutely despise them. Early, late, middle, doesn't matter.


Quite an over exaggeration don't ya think?  ::)

Calling any decade a decade from hell is cringworthy. Especially since this isn't even close to being the worst decade to exist. Heck decades like the 1930s/1940s had some depressing moments (I'd argue moments that were worse than the 2010s) yet they're not decades from hell.  Try living in a world where not only was there economic depression but also world changing wars like the Cold War and World War 2 along with things like the Holocaust all happening around the same times. Yet despite this I still never hear anyone call the '30s/'40s the decades from hell.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/18/17 at 4:27 pm


Some mainstream songs are okay, but overall, the mainstream is highly boring.
It isn't the first era I've found music boring, I would hate 1890's/1900's decade music.


The Pre-1920s decades lacked any famous Jazz songs. Therefore they suck by comparison. Long live the Roaring '20s.  8)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 02/18/17 at 4:33 pm


The 2010s are the decade from hell. I absolutely despise them. Early, late, middle, doesn't matter.


Same here. I might have some bias towards the early 2010s because of the fashion, but I still don't like it because they started to have awful music and they ditched the fashion I loved in the early 2010s very quickly.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/18/17 at 4:38 pm


The Pre-1920s decades lacked any famous Jazz songs. Therefore they suck by comparison. Long live the Roaring '20s.  8)


I'm not a fan of 1920's music, but it's waaay better than 1890's music. I prefer the 1930's in music though.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 02/18/17 at 5:01 pm


Quite an over exaggeration don't ya think?  ::)

Calling any decade a decade from hell is cringworthy. Especially since this isn't even close to being the worst decade to exist. Heck decades like the 1930s/1940s had some depressing moments (I'd argue moments that were worse than the 2010s) yet they're not decades from hell.  Try living in a world where not only was there economic depression but also world changing wars like the Cold War and World War 2 along with things like the Holocaust all happening around the same times. Yet despite this I still never hear anyone call the '30s/'40s the decades from hell.


While I do agree that calling any decade "a decade from hell" is a bit of an exaggeration, I think unconventional99 is comparing the 2010s to more recent decades (ie., 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, etc.). I don't think many of us would choose to live in the WW2 era over today. Even I don't hate the 2010s that much  :P.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: nintieskid999 on 02/18/17 at 5:05 pm


Quite an over exaggeration don't ya think?  ::)

Calling any decade a decade from hell is cringworthy. Especially since this isn't even close to being the worst decade to exist. Heck decades like the 1930s/1940s had some depressing moments (I'd argue moments that were worse than the 2010s) yet they're not decades from hell.  Try living in a world where not only was there economic depression but also world changing wars like the Cold War and World War 2 along with things like the Holocaust all happening around the same times. Yet despite this I still never hear anyone call the '30s/'40s the decades from hell.


The 30s and 40s were decades from super hell. People who lived through those times didn't want to call them decades from hell because they didn't want to acknowledge that their youth was wasted in a bad time.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/18/17 at 5:07 pm

What era is better than the early 2010s? Impossibru.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: nintieskid999 on 02/18/17 at 5:13 pm


Some mainstream songs are okay, but overall, the mainstream is highly boring.
It isn't the first era I've found music boring, I would hate 1890's/1900's decade music.


I think 1900s and 1890s music was actually way better than the music I hear on the radio now. I just listened to the 2016 top 100 pop charts and it was extreme noise. Garbled garbage.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: nintieskid999 on 02/18/17 at 5:14 pm

and also the 00s were called the decade from hell even though I didn't think they were hellish
I think the title belongs to the 2010s instead.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/18/17 at 5:20 pm


I'm not a fan of 1920's music, but it's waaay better than 1890's music. I prefer the 1930's in music though.


1930s Jazz/Big Band Swing is great!  8)


While I do agree that calling any decade "a decade from hell" is a bit of an exaggeration, I think unconventional99 is comparing the 2010s to more recent decades (ie., 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, etc.). I don't think many of us would choose to live in the WW2 era over today. Even I don't hate the 2010s that much  :P.

The 30s and 40s were decades from super hell. People who lived through those times didn't want to call them decades from hell because they didn't want to acknowledge that their youth was wasted in a bad time.



Even to the more recent decades the 2010s still isn't a decade from hell. Not even close. Also there is no "Super hell". Didn't think you could get any worse than "hell". Saying you don't like a decade and you see it as bad is good enough. No need to go saying it's hell or a utopia. But hey to each his own. Now I'm not going to defend the 2010s. I like the 2010s, but there a LOT of things that get on my nerves. I like the early 2010s as I like that optimistic fun/colorful vibe in the economy/pop culture. But nowadays it feels like people are literally TRYING to make things even worse. I mean there is never any real reason as to why the colorful/bright vibe of the early 2010s changed to the more dark/troubling times of now. Too many things popped up. In terms of politics and culture things just turned out of my favor. But this is just me. I'm sure there are people who see it as the opposite from me.

The 2010s has introduced me to a lot of great things. But it also brought in some horrible/unfavorable things. I don't think this is the worst decade ever, but in terms of personal views it's not a time I'd want to revisit.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 02/18/17 at 5:21 pm


I never liked Barney. They made fun of him when I was going to school.


I never watched Barney in general.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/18/17 at 5:34 pm

The 2010s are a decent decade all things considered. The only thing that tanked is video games, but that is set to Switch this March 3rd. We can't forget the 3DSuccess either, did any other console release slay after slay for almost an entire decade? I'm shook.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/18/17 at 5:42 pm


The 2010s are the decade from hell. I absolutely despise them. Early, late, middle, doesn't matter.


Personally, I can agree. But culturally, I think a lot of people cherish a lot of things that this decade made. Even though they were just rehashes of previous media compartments (e.g. all the reboots we had since 2015).

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/18/17 at 5:49 pm


The 2010s are a decent decade all things considered. The only thing that tanked is video games, but that is set to Switch this March 3rd. We can't forget the 3DSuccess either, did any other console release slay after slay for almost an entire decade? I'm shook.



The 2010s is a love-hate decade for me. On one hand the early 2010s was decent. On the other the mid 2010s was meh. The 2010s is when the 2nd half of the 7th gen and the 8th gen gaming was in place. Neither of these times for gaming were up to par with the previous gens  as what we mainly got this gen were overall dramatic CGI-esque "cinematic" games where the devs obviously favored cutscene centric scenes and graphics over fun gameplay. There are too many shooters. And too many games trying mimic real life. I play games for escapism. I don't want to play a game that is just a game version of the world that I live in. Not enough variety in games these days. I'd favore Indie games, but too many of them pander to nostalgia. How many games need to be a "love letter" to 8bit games?! 8bit graphics are fine, but it shouldn't be what every game needs to look like. And speaking of nostalgia pandering I actulally hate that it's what seems to rule part of mainstream pop culture. People trying to revive old stuff and not thinking of anyting new. Now a good blend of old and new is fine (like Electro Swing), but making literally just trying to cash in on nostalgia is terrible. In fact most of these nostalgia pandering cash-grabs products of today usually end up being worse than the orgininal stuff from the past. As for music I've mentioned how mainstream stuff is bland with me finding more good stuff online in places like youtube, bandcamp, and soundcloud.  Fashion is..........actually modern fashion is alright. Nothing too bad, I suppose. The political matters are a mess, but then again they always were since the beginning of politics.

My local rant on the 2010s. Complete with poor grammer and a bunch of typos.

The 2010s isn't bad, but certainly not one of my favorites.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/18/17 at 5:53 pm


Personally, I can agree. But culturally, I think a lot of people cherish a lot of things that this decade made. Even though they were just rehashes of previous media compartments (e.g. all the reboots we had since 2015).


This is what is wrong with the decade. People don't know why previous decades were good. The reason why previous decades were good is because of that they made their own original stuff. The 2010s can't even reach 1980s level of creativity if all we're getting is just reboots/rehashs/sequels to 1980s stuff.

Now every decade has nostalgia revivals. But they were never brought to the heights as the 2010s did it. 2000s had a 1980s revival, but there wasn't a moment where everything was a 1980s revival/sequel/reboot etc. Hopefully we don't fall into this trap in the 2020s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: nintieskid999 on 02/18/17 at 6:36 pm


This is what is wrong with the decade. People don't know why previous decades were good. The reason why previous decades were good is because of that they made their own original stuff. The 2010s can't even reach 1980s level of creativity if all we're getting is just reboots/rehashs/sequels to 1980s stuff.

Now every decade has nostalgia revivals. But they were never brought to the heights as the 2010s did it. 2000s had a 1980s revival, but there wasn't a moment where everything was a 1980s revival/sequel/reboot etc. Hopefully we don't fall into this trap in the 2020s.


The problem is the original stuff of the 2010s is so bad. Look at the 2016 pop charts. It's exceedingly awful.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/18/17 at 7:10 pm


The problem is the original stuff of the 2010s is so bad. Look at the 2016 pop charts. It's exceedingly awful.


As a person who despises most of this decade, I don't think that's the problem. I truly agree with Looney Toon on how there's a lot of reboots, and it ruins the nostalgia of previous decades. It wasn't as bad before the 2010s. Especially when shows that were nostalgic towards towards its time (Happy Days in the 70s, The Wonder Years in the late 80s/early 90s, and That 70s Show in the 90s/2000s).

The fact that people keep obsessing towards their nostalgia on the Internet makes it unsettling for some people like me. I like of how you want to go back in the past, but not in a way where social media and high-tech mobile devices are developing. Especially when it forms so many profound communities that don't really capture people's perspective of their previous life moments, including mine.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/18/17 at 7:18 pm



The 2010s is a love-hate decade for me. On one hand the early 2010s was decent. On the other the mid 2010s was meh. The 2010s is when the 2nd half of the 7th gen and the 8th gen gaming was in place. Neither of these times for gaming were up to par with the previous gens  as what we mainly got this gen were overall dramatic CGI-esque "cinematic" games where the devs obviously favored cutscene centric scenes and graphics over fun gameplay. There are too many shooters. And too many games trying mimic real life. I play games for escapism. I don't want to play a game that is just a game version of the world that I live in. Not enough variety in games these days. I'd favore Indie games, but too many of them pander to nostalgia. How many games need to be a "love letter" to 8bit games?! 8bit graphics are fine, but it shouldn't be what every game needs to look like. And speaking of nostalgia pandering I actulally hate that it's what seems to rule part of mainstream pop culture. People trying to revive old stuff and not thinking of anyting new. Now a good blend of old and new is fine (like Electro Swing), but making literally just trying to cash in on nostalgia is terrible. In fact most of these nostalgia pandering cash-grabs products of today usually end up being worse than the orgininal stuff from the past. As for music I've mentioned how mainstream stuff is bland with me finding more good stuff online in places like youtube, bandcamp, and soundcloud.  Fashion is..........actually modern fashion is alright. Nothing too bad, I suppose. The political matters are a mess, but then again they always were since the beginning of politics.

My local rant on the 2010s. Complete with poor grammer and a bunch of typos.

The 2010s isn't bad, but certainly not one of my favorites.


I really liked the early 2010s in PC gaming. Steam was picking up steam (don't shoot me!) so you got a lot of original indie games, and there was amazing reboots like Starcraft 2.

I didn't care for 6th gen gaming as it was happening (shooter proliferation was a problem even back then, although it's way worse now), but with how disastrous 8th gen has been, it does make it look a lot better ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/18/17 at 8:32 pm

The 2010s suck. But I hope they will get better before 2020 arrives. We still have three years to get through this decade.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/18/17 at 8:42 pm

There was an attack in Sweden last night according to The Only Credible News Soruce  :\'(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: muppethammer26 on 02/18/17 at 9:19 pm

I don't think hipster fashion, Dudebro/FPS domination, rehash/reboots of older movies, etc. will survive past 2020. Instead, sometime in 2020, we will get a new type of fashion, video games will be more colorful and simplistic, and the new movies will be original and creative.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/18/17 at 9:30 pm


I don't think hipster fashion, Dudebro/FPS domination, rehash/reboots of older movies, etc. will survive past 2020. Instead, sometime in 2020, we will get a new type of fashion, video games will be more colorful and simplistic, and the new movies will be original and creative.

People said this for the 2010s, "Things will get better", "social media will die", "Reboots will decrease", etc. It never came and I don't think the 2020s will be any different. :P

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/18/17 at 9:41 pm


People said this for the 2010s, "Things will get better", "social media will die", "Reboots will decrease", etc. It never came and I don't think the 2020s will be any different. :P

That's because the 2010s aren't super different from the 2000s. But the 20s will be very different like another world compared to the 00s and 10s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/18/17 at 10:16 pm

Both the 00's and 10's suck, we need to travel back to the 80's and 90's and stay there.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 02/18/17 at 11:14 pm


Both the 00's and 10's suck, we need to travel back to the 80's and 90's and stay there.


I absolutely agree. ;)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/18/17 at 11:18 pm


Both the 00's and 10's suck, we need to travel back to the 80's and 90's and stay there.


Pop culture was awesome from 1983 to 1998. 

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/18/17 at 11:28 pm


Pop culture was awesome from 1983 to 1998.


It was! 8)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: nintieskid999 on 02/19/17 at 3:32 am


Pop culture was awesome from 1983 to 1998.


Pop culture was awesome from the 60s to the 90s IMO.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: nintieskid999 on 02/19/17 at 3:34 am


I absolutely agree. ;)


I think things started to decline in 1999.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 02/19/17 at 3:49 am


I don't think hipster fashion, Dudebro/FPS domination, rehash/reboots of older movies, etc. will survive past 2020. Instead, sometime in 2020, we will get a new type of fashion, video games will be more colorful and simplistic, and the new movies will be original and creative.


I hope this happens.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/19/17 at 3:59 am

2020:

I think the mainstream music will become even more bland and generic. What kids like today is an indication of what will be popular in the future. Even if it doesn't, it's very likely most of the people here who are adults are unlikely to like the music no matter how original and dynamic it is. Movies will become more formulaic since people mostly show up for formulaic films. I do foresee an even greater Golden Age of Television. A great war is likely to occur at some time and right now we're witnessing the prelude. A second great depression may happen. A lot of the causes of the Great Recession weren't fixed and what little was implemented to keep another bubble burst at bay is currently being rolled back. "Hipster" fashion will only morph into a different kind of hipster.

On a positive note, I think mixed/virtual/augmented reality technology will finally take off on a mass level.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 02/19/17 at 4:00 am


That's because the 2010s aren't super different from the 2000s. But the 20s will be very different like another world compared to the 00s and 10s.


Yeah, it's possible that in the future decades, people will see the 2000s and the 2010s the same way they see the 60s and 70s. Because of this I think the 2020s will be a backlash to the 2010s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 02/19/17 at 4:09 am


2020:

I think the mainstream music will become even more bland and generic. What kids like today is an indication of what will be popular in the future. Even if it doesn't, it's very likely most of the people here who are adults are unlikely to like the music no matter how original and dynamic it is. Movies will become more formulaic since people mostly show up for formulaic films. I do foresee an even greater Golden Age of Television. A great war is likely to occur at some time and right now we're witnessing the prelude. A second great depression may happen. A lot of the causes of the Great Recession weren't fixed and what little was implemented to keep another bubble burst at bay is currently being rolled back. "Hipster" fashion will only morph into a different kind of hipster.

On a positive note, I think mixed/virtual/augmented reality technology will finally take off on a mass level.


You seem to buy into this odd (yet popular) notion 2020s will just be a sequel to the 2010s. However it's more likely that the 2020s will instead be a backlash against the 2010s. Think of it this way, the 70s are often seen as a sequel to the late 60s. When the 80s rolled around, they were a significant backlash against the 70s. And if you think about the 2010s, they are basically a sequel to the late 00s. So it's likely that the 2020s will be the same as the 80s in that regard. Sure the early 2020s may share some elements from the very late 2010s, but by 2022/2023, it'll probably seem like a completely different era.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 02/19/17 at 4:21 am


I think things started to decline in 1999.


Coincidentally, the year I was born in. What a thought, knowing that popular culture started to drastically decline exactly around the time I entered this world. :P You're right though.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/19/17 at 4:23 am


You seem to buy into this odd (yet popular) notion 2020s will just be a sequel to the 2010s. However it's more likely that the 2020s will instead be a backlash against the 2010s. Think of it this way, the 70s are often seen as a sequel to the late 60s. When the 80s rolled around, they were a significant backlash against the 70s. And if you think about the 2010s, they are basically a sequel to the late 00s. So it's likely that the 2020s will be the same as the 80s in that regard. Sure the early 2020s may share some elements from the very late 2010s, but by 2022/2023, it'll probably seem like a completely different era.

I agree. I definitely think there will be a backlash against the 2010s and very quickly after the next decade begins. Even more than the backlash there was for the 2000s in the 2010s. I feel like the general public will feel like we will actually enter into another decade/era and we will finally have the old naming scheme back for the decades.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/19/17 at 4:36 am


You seem to buy into this odd (yet popular) notion 2020s will just be a sequel to the 2010s. However it's more likely that the 2020s will instead be a backlash against the 2010s. Think of it this way, the 70s are often seen as a sequel to the late 60s. When the 80s rolled around, they were a significant backlash against the 70s. And if you think about the 2010s, they are basically a sequel to the late 00s. So it's likely that the 2020s will be the same as the 80s in that regard. Sure the early 2020s may share some elements from the very late 2010s, but by 2022/2023, it'll probably seem like a completely different era.


I don't necessarily believe that. I just don't believe a 2020s backlash against the 2010s guarantees good change. Most of the people here have only provided the vaguest of predictions. "Things will get better." For who exactly? Why? Because things couldn't possibly get worse than now? That's ridiculous. Things can get far, far worse.

Yes. Things may radically change in the 2020s. That doesn't mean mainstream music will become interesting. It doesn't mean Hollywood will dump sequels and reboots. It doesn't mean an even greater war, whether social or militarily, is not on the horizon.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/19/17 at 8:29 am


That's because the 2010s aren't super different from the 2000s. But the 20s will be very different like another world compared to the 00s and 10s.


The 2010s are no way the same compared to the early and mid 2000s, but I can respect that for the late 2000s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/19/17 at 9:32 am


Pop culture was awesome from the 60s to the 90s IMO.


I believe we sometimes forget that American pop culture from roughly the mid 1950's to the late 90's/early 00's was a special time. I'm not saying things will be bland forever, but that explosive and highly creative period for pop culture is rarer than we think. That's what made the 50's to 90's so special.

I think that the creativity from the 1950's to 1990's stemmed from a post WWII thinking. Sometimes deep suffering causes great art and creativity, and the 1930's and first half of the 1940's would be considered deep suffering. The funnest and greatness of about 1955 to about 2003 was also partly people had so much to say after so much oppression for CENTURIES. Also, everything was new in those decades/years, TV was new, movies were relatively new, and Top 40 was new.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/19/17 at 10:03 am

Perry's new MV is coming out!! Get hyped!

i7gHuDT1-xU

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 02/19/17 at 10:06 am


I don't think hipster fashion, Dudebro/FPS domination, rehash/reboots of older movies, etc. will survive past 2020. Instead, sometime in 2020, we will get a new type of fashion, video games will be more colorful and simplistic, and the new movies will be original and creative.


I want games to be like entire worlds (e.g. Star Citizen). Unless we're running out of resources for energy and manufacturing and the like, we shouldn't be making our software simpler. That said, I do want games to be more colourful, and Overwatch is a good example of it.

Hipster fashion can go to hell though. I want emo and scene back.

Saw a reboot of Ben 10 (or at least its ads) and it looked horrible. If they're gonna reboot anything from the 2000s, it better look good.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/19/17 at 10:19 am


Perry's new MV is coming out!! Get hyped!

i7gHuDT1-xU


It looks like Disneyland.  :o

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/19/17 at 11:46 am


It looks like Disneyland.  :o


Dance, dance, dance to the distortion  :-[

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/19/17 at 1:03 pm


The 2010s are no way the same compared to the early and mid 2000s, but I can respect that for the late 2000s.

I didn't say they were exactly the same, I said they weren't super different from each other. More similar in contrast to other decade comparisons. And I'm talking in general 2000 - 2009, not drastically different from 2010 -2017.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 02/19/17 at 2:49 pm


Both the 00's and 10's suck, we need to travel back to the 80's and 90's and stay there.



Where's the Delorean?  ::)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/19/17 at 2:57 pm


Both the 00's and 10's suck, we need to travel back to the 80's and 90's and stay there.

What about 2000-2003 and the very microscopic portions of 2004-2006 that still were x-treme? ???

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/19/17 at 4:16 pm


What about 2000-2003 and the very microscopic portions of 2004-2006 that still were x-treme? ???

Many people think that sucks too. I liked it but not everyone did. I am biased because I grew up around that time, but if I was Jordan's age I would have hated it like how I hate the 2010s. I think in the end of the day no decade is better than another but it just has to do with when you grew up and the nostalgia factor. I personally loved the 2000s but it's not like the culture was any better than any other decade.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: exodus08 on 02/19/17 at 4:39 pm

I know a lot of old people who hate the '90s lol.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/19/17 at 5:12 pm



Where's the Delorean?  ::)


Yes! Let's get outta here. 8)


What about 2000-2003 and the very microscopic portions of 2004-2006 that still were x-treme? ???


I only like 2000-2002. I don't really like 2003 that much. :P

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/19/17 at 6:07 pm


I was Barney's #1 fan around 1994-1998ish but around 2006-2008 when my sisters were 1-3 years old, and my computer desk was in the same room as their room, they had Barney playing on loop for hours, and I got all the nursery rhymes stuck in my head. It was hell! ;D


I was only a fan of Barney when I was in preschool up to 1st grade (I think). It wasn't one of my favorite PBS Kids shows, but it was still a good time waster when I was little.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: tv on 02/19/17 at 6:49 pm


I didn't say they were exactly the same, I said they weren't super different from each other. More similar in contrast to other decade comparisons. And I'm talking in general 2000 - 2009, not drastically different from 2010 -2017.
Yeah but 2005 is a lot different than 2017 for example.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: tv on 02/19/17 at 6:52 pm


Pop culture was awesome from 1983 to 1998.
If you are a GenXer like me it was awesome! 2001-mid 2007 wasn't that bad either.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/19/17 at 6:58 pm


Yeah but 2005 is a lot different than 2017 for example.

Yeah but I'm talking about the whole decade in general. 

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/20/17 at 3:50 pm

I think the hipster movement is already dying at least in terms of music. Compare 2015 to now and you would see far more hipsters back then.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 02/20/17 at 4:00 pm


I think the hipster movement is already dying at least in terms of music. Compare 2015 to now and you would see far more hipsters back then.


IDK. When I can see more guys with long hair, and when I stop hearing bland stuff in the shops and on the radio (e.g. Olly Murs), then I can celebrate. I'm betting my money on the 2020s though, and not late this decade.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/20/17 at 6:01 pm

The food trucks and carts here in Toronto are still run by guys sporting manbuns, beards and tattoos. I don't want it to go away tbh, it's become staple ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: nintieskid999 on 02/20/17 at 9:34 pm

We need something GOOD and original. Just original just won't cut it. Most songs on the pop charts are original yet they still suck.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/20/17 at 9:41 pm


If you are a GenXer like me it was awesome! 2001-mid 2007 wasn't that bad either.


My most favorite era was '83 to '95.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 02/20/17 at 9:58 pm


We need something GOOD and original. Just original just won't cut it. Most songs on the pop charts are original yet they still suck.


I think people need to stop being afraid of their music sounding tacky. I think that's what's influenced the tone of the 2010s; it feels too safe as opposed to the music of the 2000s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/20/17 at 10:01 pm


My most favorite era was '83 to '95.


The best era! 8)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/20/17 at 10:05 pm


I think people need to stop being afraid of their music sounding tacky. I think that's what's influenced the tone of the 2010s; it feels too safe as opposed to the music of the 2000s.


I agree! That's why Popular Song is such a fun song! :D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/20/17 at 10:09 pm

What are you on? Popular Song sounds like a song for preschoolers! ::)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/20/17 at 10:16 pm


What are you on? Popular Song sounds like a song for preschoolers! ::)


It's like my generation's I'm Just A Kid.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/20/17 at 10:18 pm


It's like my generation's I'm Just A Kid.


At least I'm Just a Kid is a pretty good song just with cheesy lyrics. Popular Song has no redeeming value. It's awful!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/20/17 at 10:24 pm


At least I'm Just a Kid is a pretty good song just with cheesy lyrics. Popular Song has no redeeming value. It's awful!


Popular Song is uplifting and happy, while I'm Just A Kid makes you sad. Sad!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/20/17 at 10:25 pm


Popular Song is uplifting and happy, while I'm Just A Kid makes you sad. Sad!


Popular Song makes me gag.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/20/17 at 10:30 pm


Popular Song makes me gag.


Mess! Popular Song shows tremendous personal growth and portrays musical brilliance and talent in an artist that is blossoming into her own, bigly. Meanwhile, the lying and failing Simple Plan completely fell off the map after 2004! Sad!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/20/17 at 10:31 pm


Mess! Popular Song shows tremendous personal growth and portrays musical brilliance and talent in an artist that is blossoming into her own, bigly. Meanwhile, the lying and failing Simple Plan completely fell off the map after 2004! Sad!


And I'm glad they did because their first album is the only thing worth listening to.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/20/17 at 10:34 pm


And I'm glad they did because their first album is the only thing worth listening to.


:o

Still Not Getting Any had Shut Up and Welcome To My Life... it's the better album.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/20/17 at 10:36 pm


:o

Still Not Getting Any had Shut Up and Welcome To My Life... it's the better album.


But it doesn't sound like 1999 blink-182 pop punk like the first one. I don't buy pop punk to listen to slow soft songs. They can whine all they want but at least pick up the tempo!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: nintieskid999 on 02/21/17 at 1:01 am


I think people need to stop being afraid of their music sounding tacky. I think that's what's influenced the tone of the 2010s; it feels too safe as opposed to the music of the 2000s.


Seriously. People are so afraid of standing out everything sounds bland and blah

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/21/17 at 7:46 am


I think the hipster movement is already dying at least in terms of music. Compare 2015 to now and you would see far more hipsters back then.


What exactly do you qualify as hipster music?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/21/17 at 7:48 am


We need something GOOD and original. Just original just won't cut it. Most songs on the pop charts are original yet they still suck.


Any artists that you found lately that are good and original?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/21/17 at 7:37 pm

The population of libertarians on the Internet fell to near zero after the Milo controversy. Whatever happened to "I may not like what you have to say about fùcking underaged boys, but I'll defend your right to say it. And that is the beauty of free speech"?  👀 The late 2010s take another victim.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/21/17 at 7:53 pm

The Horizon: Zero Dawn reviews...

http://i.imgur.com/bNSnvXw.gif

I haven't seen this many meltdowns over game reviews since Twilight Princess's infamous 8.8. The sodium levels on the Internet are through the roof! The Sony fanboys will stop at nothing to make sure Zelda Breath of Fresh Air suffers the same fate, but they can keep on hoping, because there's only ONE company who has delivered quality this generation (3DS) and there's only one company that has and can save gaming!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/21/17 at 8:24 pm


The population of libertarians on the Internet fell to near zero after the Milo controversy. Whatever happened to "I may not like what you have to say about fùcking underaged boys, but I'll defend your right to say it. And that is the beauty of free speech"?  👀 The late 2010s take another victim.


Free speech goes both ways. Milo can say what he wants and person A can choose to leave a party if they want to. Freedom can be savage and unforgiving.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/21/17 at 8:42 pm


Free speech goes both ways. Milo can say what he wants and person A can choose to leave a party if they want to. Freedom can be savage and unforgiving.


Exactly! I don't see many tears from "libertarians" now that he's fired from Breitbart as I saw when he got banned from Twitter. Both are examples of private corporations choosing to terminate their relationship with Milo, but apparently only the latter is an attack on freeze peach. It turns out that, even for so-called "libertarians" and "classic liberals", their "defence" of freeze peach stops when someone says something unacceptable (paedophilia). But all we can conclude from this is that they were okay with everything else, the genocide-glorifying (Nazi memorabilia), anti-Semitism, homophobia and transphobia were apparently acceptable topics to the conservatives who invited him to speak at CPAC.  ::)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/21/17 at 8:48 pm


Exactly! I don't see many tears from "libertarians" now that he's fired from Breitbart as I saw when he got banned from Twitter. Both are examples of private corporations choosing to terminate their relationship with Milo, but apparently only the latter is an attack on freeze peach. It turns out that, even for so-called "libertarians" and "classic liberals", their "defence" of freeze peach stops when someone says something unacceptable (paedophilia). But all we can conclude from this is that they were okay with everything else, the genocide-glorifying (Nazi memorabilia), and transphobia were apparently acceptable topics.  ::)


When I first saw him, my gut told me to not trust him.  :P

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/22/17 at 12:36 am


The Horizon: Zero Dawn reviews...

http://i.imgur.com/bNSnvXw.gif

I haven't seen this many meltdowns over game reviews since Twilight Princess's infamous 8.8. The sodium levels on the Internet are through the roof! The Sony fanboys will stop at nothing to make sure Zelda Breath of Fresh Air suffers the same fate, but they can keep on hoping, because there's only ONE company who has delivered quality this generation (3DS) and there's only one company that has and can save gaming!


That's right. there is only one King of gaming. And that is............................... Microsoft.  8) Join the world of generic FPS games and glorious indie games.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/22/17 at 3:11 pm


That's right. there is only one King of gaming. And that is............................... Microsoft.  8) Join the world of generic FPS games and glorious indie games.


asdjalsdklasfjsa;dsal... I signed a truce with Microsoft fanboys. I can't say anything bad about them.  :-X

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/22/17 at 3:59 pm


asdjalsdklasfjsa;dsal... I signed a truce with Microsoft fanboys. I can't say anything bad about them.  :-X


Yeah boy!
http://i.imgur.com/D2KkP0H.gif

It's not so dark on the dark side. We actually got lit candles this time.  8)


But seriously people getting mad that Horizon: Zero Dawn has an 88 on Metacritic? Don't know why people are getting upset about it.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/22/17 at 4:46 pm


The population of libertarians on the Internet fell to near zero after the Milo controversy. Whatever happened to "I may not like what you have to say about fùcking underaged boys, but I'll defend your right to say it. And that is the beauty of free speech"?  👀 The late 2010s take another victim.

See guys, it's officially the late 2010s now, because Milo got fired from Breitbart. :)

In 2015 and 2016, Milo was the figurehead of Breitbart and a real force to be reckoned with. Now that it's the late 2010s, he has been reduced to mess, similar to Britney Spears becoming a mess when we entered the late 2000s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/22/17 at 6:30 pm


Yeah boy!

It's not so dark on the dark side. We actually got lit candles this time.  8)


But seriously people getting mad that Horizon: Zero Dawn has an 88 on Metacritic? Don't know why people are getting upset about it.


It's so close to 90, yet so far away! Unlike Zelda, which will deliver 95+ easily. Have you seen the trailers and gameplay footage? Now that's how an open-world game is done *_*


See guys, it's officially the late 2010s now, because Milo got fired from Breitbart. :)

In 2015 and 2016, Milo was the figurehead of Breitbart and a real force to be reckoned with. Now that it's the late 2010s, he has been reduced to mess, similar to Britney Spears becoming a mess when we entered the late 2000s.


The mid-2010s is when the evil was rising (Sony, Milo, Brexit etc.) but the late 2010s is when the evil will be defeated!! I'm optimistic for this errar now! There's something to look forward to :D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/22/17 at 6:37 pm


That's right. there is only one King of gaming. And that is............................... Microsoft.  8) Join the world of generic FPS games and glorious indie games.


Windows PCs are better.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/22/17 at 8:41 pm

Did Katy Perry blow her cover on the New World Order and Illuminati in her latest MV??

CDcI8TXud50

http://i.imgur.com/5RZjVKf.gif

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/22/17 at 8:44 pm

I like Katy's new song!  :)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/22/17 at 9:38 pm

Papa Macron and Mutti Merkel will be a counterbalance against Trump and ensure the (((globalist))) world order remains in tact in the late 2010s!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/17 at 11:01 am

The Switch unboxing!! The Switch is so small that even Donald Trump's hands can hold it  :o This is the most late 2010s thing ever.

fLLPd68qpdE

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/23/17 at 11:05 am


The Switch unboxing!! The Switch is so small that even Donald Trump's hands can hold it  :o This is the most late 2010s thing ever.

fLLPd68qpdE


That makes me not want to get a Nintendo Switch at all.

In loving memory of Nintendo's legacy
1889-2012
(the year the Wii U was released)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/17 at 11:10 am


That makes me not want to get a Nintendo Switch at all.

In loving memory of Nintendo's legacy
1889-2012
(the year the Wii U was released)


It's the size of a Gameboy! Another 1990s revival.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/23/17 at 11:12 am

Well this is the future, I suppose. As technology advances we can now make crazy things the size of a peanut. But I'm not gonna lie when I say that the Nintendo Switch has an odd design. Instead of a console it looks like a tablet screen.


Also I wanted to ask something. Does anyone know who cultural backlash happens? And when they happen? For example the 1980s was had a 1970s cultural backlash. I have an idea of how backlashes work, but I don't have a full understanding. Maybe someone can help me out here. Some say that we may experience a 2010s backlash in the 2020s sometime in the early 2020s. But not every decade had a cultural backlash did it? Did the 2010s have a 2000s backlash? And I'm not sure if the 1990s had a 1980s backlash (maybe it did and I'm just not aware).

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/23/17 at 11:13 am


It's the size of a Gameboy! Another 1990s revival.


I doubt the Switch being small as anything to do with it being a 1990s/Gameboy revival. More to do with the fact that we can now make crazy bite sized hardware that can fit in your wallet.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/17 at 11:18 am


I doubt the Switch being small as anything to do with it being a 1990s/Gameboy revival. More to do with the fact that we can now make crazy bite sized hardware that can fit in your wallet.


Yeah, I was being satirical (of this board) lol. It's actually the same size as a 3DS XL.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 02/23/17 at 12:44 pm


Well this is the future, I suppose. As technology advances we can now make crazy things the size of a peanut. But I'm not gonna lie when I say that the Nintendo Switch has an odd design. Instead of a console it looks like a tablet screen.


Also I wanted to ask something. Does anyone know who cultural backlash happens? And when they happen? For example the 1980s was had a 1970s cultural backlash. I have an idea of how backlashes work, but I don't have a full understanding. Maybe someone can help me out here. Some say that we may experience a 2010s backlash in the 2020s sometime in the early 2020s. But not every decade had a cultural backlash did it? Did the 2010s have a 2000s backlash? And I'm not sure if the 1990s had a 1980s backlash (maybe it did and I'm just not aware).


There was a pretty massive '80s backlash in the '90s, especially after alternative rock became all the rage around 1992. I know when I was in school that if you had gotten caught listening to '80s stuff like Winger or Skid Row (or even stuff like Vanilla Ice that came out in the early '90s but was deemed as "eighties") then you would've been laughed out of the building.

On the other hand, there really wasn't a massive '90s backlash in the '00s. Core '90s stuff like Grunge was still seen as "cool" throughout most of the decade. To the extent that there was a '90s backlash, it mostly pertained to stuff from the late part of the decade like Hanson and the Backstreet Boys. I haven't really noticed much of an '00s backlash in the '10s to this point.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/23/17 at 12:44 pm


Yeah, I was being satirical (of this board) lol. It's actually the same size as a 3DS XL.


You know I have a rule against satire!  >:( Also the Switch is the size of a Wii U Gamepad.   :-X

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/23/17 at 1:00 pm



Also I wanted to ask something. Does anyone know who cultural backlash happens? And when they happen? For example the 1980s was had a 1970s cultural backlash. I have an idea of how backlashes work, but I don't have a full understanding. Maybe someone can help me out here. Some say that we may experience a 2010s backlash in the 2020s sometime in the early 2020s. But not every decade had a cultural backlash did it? Did the 2010s have a 2000s backlash? And I'm not sure if the 1990s had a 1980s backlash (maybe it did and I'm just not aware).

The 90s had a big backlash against the 80s. The 00s did have a small backlash against the 90s but it was in the earlier part of the decade. And yeah it was mainly against bubblegum pop and boy bands like  Backstreet Boys music. Now in the 2010s, it's kind of weird because the 00s backlash actually happened during the 00s decade. So people just couldn't stand modern trends in the 2000s (even more than in the 2010s), when the 00s ended, not a huge amount has changed and it's not like people were happy they left the 2000s so the backlash wasn't there. I think this has to do with the confusion of decades and how many people didn't know we were in a new decade in the 10s. But this will change when the 2020s arrive because it will be clear we would be in a new decade and I have a feeling there will be major 2010s backlash in the 2020s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/23/17 at 1:08 pm


There was a pretty massive '80s backlash in the '90s, especially after alternative rock became all the rage around 1992. I know when I was in school that if you had gotten caught listening to '80s stuff like Winger or Skid Row (or even stuff like Vanilla Ice that came out in the early '90s but was deemed as "eighties") then you would've been laughed out of the building.

On the other hand, there really wasn't a massive '90s backlash in the '00s. Core '90s stuff like Grunge was still seen as "cool" throughout most of the decade. To the extent that there was a '90s backlash, it mostly pertained to stuff from the late part of the decade like Hanson and the Backstreet Boys. I haven't really noticed much of an '00s backlash in the '10s to this point.


I remember people on here posting about the 80's backlash. It was well under way by 1994, according to the posts. 1993 at the earliest, from my memory.
Makes sense since Michael, Madonna, and Prince, were all past their peak by 1993.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/23/17 at 2:21 pm


It's the size of a Gameboy! Another 1990s revival.


Isn't a Gameboy those new types of licorice?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 02/23/17 at 2:38 pm


It's the size of a Gameboy! Another 1990s revival.



They should bring back The Gameboy?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 02/23/17 at 2:39 pm


Isn't a Gameboy those new types of licorice?


No.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/23/17 at 2:47 pm


No.


Okay.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/23/17 at 3:40 pm


There was a pretty massive '80s backlash in the '90s, especially after alternative rock became all the rage around 1992. I know when I was in school that if you had gotten caught listening to '80s stuff like Winger or Skid Row (or even stuff like Vanilla Ice that came out in the early '90s but was deemed as "eighties") then you would've been laughed out of the building.

On the other hand, there really wasn't a massive '90s backlash in the '00s. Core '90s stuff like Grunge was still seen as "cool" throughout most of the decade. To the extent that there was a '90s backlash, it mostly pertained to stuff from the late part of the decade like Hanson and the Backstreet Boys. I haven't really noticed much of an '00s backlash in the '10s to this point.


Great observation.

Even with all the sunny pop bands reigning in the late 90s, that strain of 90s cynicism could be seen even after grunge fell out of the limelight. MTV still had cynical shows like Daria and Celebrity Death Match. There were plenty of cynicalish popular movies about contemporary culture released in 1999 like Fight Club, Cruel Intentions, Magnolia, Office Space, Election, The Matrix, and American Beauty. It could be felt in the music with bands like Limp Bizkit, Korn, Rage Against the Machine, Radiohead, Nine Inch Nails, and Marilyn Manson. It's weird how 90s cynicism just organically faded away. I think 9/11 and the War on Terror contributed to people looking at the 90s lovingly.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/23/17 at 4:13 pm


Great observation.

Even with all the sunny pop bands reigning in the late 90s, that strain of 90s cynicism could be seen even after grunge fell out of the limelight. MTV still had cynical shows like Daria and Celebrity Death Match. There were plenty of cynicalish popular movies about contemporary culture released in 1999 like Fight Club, Cruel Intentions, Magnolia, Office Space, Election, The Matrix, and American Beauty. It could be felt in the music with bands like Limp Bizkit, Korn, Rage Against the Machine, Radiohead, Nine Inch Nails, and Marilyn Manson. It's weird how 90s cynicism just organically faded away. I think 9/11 and the War on Terror contributed to people looking at the 90s lovingly.


I wonder if 90s' cynicism was an echo of 70's nostalgia, echoing the 70s' cynicism.     

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/23/17 at 4:16 pm

I think in the early 2000s people didn't like the 90s and it has a backlash. Because I remember reading a thread a while back which was made in 2000 and people said they hated the 90s and it was a bad decade.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 02/23/17 at 4:48 pm


I think in the early 2000s people didn't like the 90s and it has a backlash. Because I remember reading a thread a while back which was made in 2000 and people said they hated the 90s and it was a bad decade.


IDK, I hear on the web a lot that people seem to miss the 90s even at that time. Granted, I would like to see people hating on the 2010s by next decade.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/17 at 5:39 pm


I think in the early 2000s people didn't like the 90s and it has a backlash. Because I remember reading a thread a while back which was made in 2000 and people said they hated the 90s and it was a bad decade.


Every decade gets hate as people are living through it, the '90s are another victim of this, lol.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/23/17 at 5:41 pm


Every decade gets hate as people are living through it, the '90s are another victim of this, lol.


I was a victim once. A red monster hid in my smelly closet and pounced on my head.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/17 at 6:18 pm


I was a victim once. A red monster hid in my smelly closet and pounced on my head.


Was it Him?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/23/17 at 6:23 pm


Every decade gets hate as people are living through it, the '90s are another victim of this, lol.

Yeah but it received hate shortly after it ended too in the early 2000s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/23/17 at 6:43 pm


Was it Him?


It was my lawyer!  :-X

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/23/17 at 7:23 pm


Yeah but it received hate shortly after it ended too in the early 2000s.


It takes about 10-15+ years (depending on age) for nostalgia to kick in.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/23/17 at 7:27 pm


It takes about 10-15+ years (depending on age) for nostalgia to kick in.


10 years for some minor nostalgia to start. 15-20 years for it to become mainstream after the backlash has ended. 1990s nostalgia had a minor start in around in around 2005/06 a little after the backlash during the early 2000s. By the 2010s it kicked into full force. 2000s nostalgia has minor nostalgia now with some hints of mainstream nostalgia for the years 2000-2002 since they're now 15-17 years ago.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/24/17 at 8:17 am


10 years for some minor nostalgia to start. 15-20 years for it to become mainstream after the backlash has ended. 1990s nostalgia had a minor start in around in around 2005/06 a little after the backlash during the early 2000s. By the 2010s it kicked into full force. 2000s nostalgia has minor nostalgia now with some hints of mainstream nostalgia for the years 2000-2002 since they're now 15-17 years ago.


Unless it depends on age. For instance, 2000s nostalgia is still kicking in. However, it's more of a gray area with the mid 2000s, while the late 2000s is still disliked by many people.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 02/24/17 at 11:31 am

I miss the late 2000s. That's the last period I feel nostalgia for.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/24/17 at 4:28 pm


I miss the late 2000s. That's the last period I feel nostalgia for.


What about the early 2010s? I feel the early 10s were pretty similar to the late 2000s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: mqg96 on 02/24/17 at 4:39 pm


What about the early 2010s? I felt the early 10s were pretty similar to the late 2000s?


Only late 2008 & 2009, but 2007 and the first half of 2008 were more similar to the mid 2000's.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/24/17 at 4:45 pm

I just simplify and think everything before 1998 is retro.  8)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/24/17 at 9:03 pm

The Zeldallah previews...

http://i.imgur.com/mJIJnZK.gif

We are entering a new world.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/24/17 at 9:15 pm


The Zeldallah previews...

http://i.imgur.com/mJIJnZK.gif

We are entering a new world.


I tried Googling that, but can't find out what it is.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/24/17 at 10:15 pm


I tried Googling that, but can't find out what it is.


The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild.

http://i.imgur.com/luOPVzW.gif

Available March 3rd.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/25/17 at 12:38 am


The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild.

http://i.imgur.com/luOPVzW.gif

Available March 3rd.


Part of the 2010's Liberal agenda.  :-X

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 02/25/17 at 7:22 am


I just simplify and think everything before 1998 is retro.  8)


How is it retro?  ???

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 02/25/17 at 7:23 am


The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild.

http://i.imgur.com/luOPVzW.gif

Available March 3rd.



that's pretty disturbing.  :o

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/25/17 at 10:07 am


Part of the 2010's Liberal agenda.  :-X


Everyone will Switch their sexuality come this March 3rd!

https://i.redd.it/oraaoc355yhy.png

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/25/17 at 11:07 am

The Switch will alter every one's sexuality? Then it must die

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 02/25/17 at 11:55 am


The Switch will alter every one's sexuality? Then it must die


I'll be on it!

https://az616578.vo.msecnd.net/files/responsive/cover/main/desktop/2015/07/27/6357355688707196191757194660_trump%2520hair.imgopt1000x70.jpg

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/25/17 at 12:34 pm


The Switch will alter every one's sexuality? Then it must die


We'll all be Nintendosexual.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/25/17 at 12:34 pm


Everyone will Switch their sexuality come this March 3rd!

https://i.redd.it/oraaoc355yhy.png


Is he going to kill someone with an arrow?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/25/17 at 12:35 pm


How is it retro?  ???


1998 isn't 20 years yet!  :D

1997 and before is.  :o

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/25/17 at 4:23 pm

Lana Del Ray – Love

3-NTv0CdFCk

OUT OF NOWHERE OMG!!!!11 I wasn't ready!!

2017 has been a behemoth of a pop culture year. For movies, we got Split, Get Out, Lion and I Am Not Your Negro. For games, we've got Horizon: Zero Dawn, Persona 5, Nioh and Zeldallah. For musique, we got Love and Chained To The Rhythm. For social, we got the collapse of America, the collapse of Milo, the collapse of Marine Le Pen/Wilders/crew, and the rise of Macron and Merkel (and Schulz). It hasn't even been two months, weed isn't even legal yet! Quite frankly, I'm shook. I never saw this coming in this Tr*mp errar. The late 2010s has potential.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/25/17 at 5:30 pm

Slowpoke. You should get a job writing clickbait headlines and articles.  ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/25/17 at 5:31 pm


We'll all be Nintendosexual.


I'll rather be Segasexual than deal with Nintendo's legacy ever since the Wii U was released.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/25/17 at 6:57 pm

Hopefully by the end of the late 2010s pop culture would have that upbeat, optimistic, wacky (and cheesy) feeling to it again. Sadly from what history shows us this only tends to happen when the economy is in a good state (the 1920s, 1960s, 1980s, 1990s) or when moments of recovery from a horrible recession (early 2010s). During times like these there are a lot of creative/innovative ideas being made within pop culture. I'm a bit torn to be honest. Some economist predict that we may end up having economic decline due to......reasons I actually forgot (I gotta reread some articles) while others say we'll enter great economic growth and may have a booming economy if all of the potential positive predicted events come true such as the technological innovations I've mentioned in a previous post of mine.



Lana Del Ray – Love

3-NTv0CdFCk

OUT OF NOWHERE OMG!!!!11 I wasn't ready!!

2017 has been a behemoth of a pop culture year. For movies, we got Split, Get Out, Lion and I Am Not Your Negro. For games, we've got Horizon: Zero Dawn, Persona 5, Nioh and Zeldallah. For musique, we got Love and Chained To The Rhythm. For social, we got the collapse of America, the collapse of Milo, the collapse of Marine Le Pen/Wilders/crew, and the rise of Macron and Merkel (and Schulz). It hasn't even been two months, weed isn't even legal yet! Quite frankly, I'm shook. I never saw this coming in this Tr*mp errar. The late 2010s has potential.

I wonder how we'll be seeing the late 2010s by the end of 2017.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/25/17 at 7:30 pm


I'll rather be Segasexual than deal with Nintendo's legacy ever since the Wii U was released.


Well, sexuality isn't a choice so buckle up.


Slowpoke. You should get a job writing clickbait headlines and articles.  ;D

But did I ever lie?

http://i.imgur.com/pEvqHEx.gif

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/25/17 at 7:57 pm


Well, sexuality isn't a choice so buckle up.


I'll rather buckle up with the power of blast processing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCQRcinZYH8&feature=youtu.be&t=11s

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/25/17 at 7:59 pm


Well, sexuality isn't a choice so buckle up.
But did I ever lie?


You're starting to sound like a writer from Kotaku.  :( I'm scared...

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/25/17 at 8:00 pm


But it doesn't sound like 1999 blink-182 pop punk like the first one. I don't buy pop punk to listen to slow soft songs. They can whine all they want but at least pick up the tempo!

Jordan, it's been 5 days and you haven't posted on here since then! Where are you? Did Trump execute you for leaking information on his Russia connection? ???

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/25/17 at 8:16 pm


Jordan, it's been 5 days and you haven't posted on here since then! Where are you? Did Trump execute you for leaking information on his Russia connection? ???


He has kids and a wife. He has a life, unlike me. :.ducks:.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/25/17 at 8:19 pm


Well, sexuality isn't a choice so buckle up.
But did I ever lie?

http://i.imgur.com/pEvqHEx.gif


You can choose to be in the parade, OR you can have the mystery box?

http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-130866982429453/the-mystery-madness-box-35.jpg

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/25/17 at 8:29 pm


You're starting to sound like a writer from Kotaku.  :( I'm scared...


No worries. The power of the Sega Genesis and Sega CD could aid us with their blast processing.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/25/17 at 8:42 pm


No worries. The power of the Sega Genesis and Sega CD could aid us with their blast processing.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/vMnuZGHJfFSTe/200_s.gif

The power of Sega will protect me, ....I hope.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/25/17 at 8:48 pm


https://media1.giphy.com/media/vMnuZGHJfFSTe/200_s.gif

The power of Sega will protect me, ....I hope.


It might. At least it's better than what the Nintendo Switch gives us (in my opinion at least).

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/25/17 at 11:00 pm


I'll rather buckle up with the power of blast processing.


SEGA CD has no games though. Is this Segasexual or is it asexual? Hmm...


You're starting to sound like a writer from Kotaku.  :( I'm scared...


I'm sorry to inform you but...

http://www.kotowari.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/kotaku-slowpoke.jpg


He has kids and a wife. He has a life, unlike me. :.ducks:.


He has a wife, but no kids. I'm the one with the kids, but no wife. Mess!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 02/25/17 at 11:03 pm


SEGA CD has no games though. Is this Segasexual or is it asexual? Hmm...

I'm sorry to inform you but...

http://www.kotowari.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/kotaku-slowpoke.jpg

He has a wife, but no kids. I'm the one with the kids, but no wife. Mess!


Oops! Somebody hacked into my username!  :-X  :-X  :-X

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/26/17 at 8:30 am


SEGA CD has no games though. Is this Segasexual or is it asexual? Hmm...


So Sonic CD, Night Trap, Snatcher, and Shining Force CD doesn't count for the games it had? Man, you must've had a sad experience with Sega.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/26/17 at 1:56 pm


So Sonic CD, Night Trap, Snatcher, and Shining Force CD doesn't count for the games it had? Man, you must've had a sad experience with Sega.


Sh*t, I had Sonic CD on Sonic Gems Collections for the Gamecube. That game was great.

But it's ova. You were a Segasexual up to 2001, but a Nintendosexual up to 2012 and again from 3rd of March, 2017 onwards.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/26/17 at 2:09 pm

It's enough just to make you feel crazy, crazy, crazy sometimes
It's enough just to make you feel crazy

You get ready, you get all dressed up
To go nowhere in particular
Back to work or the coffee shop

It don't matter because it's enough
To be young and in looooooooooooove


http://i.imgur.com/z1IAYi6.gif

I love 2017!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/26/17 at 2:10 pm


Sh*t, I had Sonic CD on Sonic Gems Collections for the Gamecube. That game was great.

But it's ova. You were a Segasexual up to 2001, but a Nintendosexual up to 2012 and again from 3rd of March, 2017 onwards.


Maybe if the Wii U was something else, then I would be a Nintendosexual. But for now, I'm a Microsoftsexual (while defending Sega with its older consoles).

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/26/17 at 2:15 pm


MicroSoftsexual


I don't care much for size but I prefer it to be erect.

Oh, this isn't the "what is your type" thread  :-[

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/26/17 at 2:55 pm


I'm sorry to inform you but...

http://www.kotowari.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/kotaku-slowpoke.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/03/2f/c3/032fc390b13d0983767a67c0ffe6bed8.gif
I've never been so disappointed in my entire life.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/26/17 at 5:09 pm


I don't care much for size but I prefer it to be erect.

Oh, this isn't the "what is your type" thread  :-[


... Apparently soft means you have a tiny dick in a sexual way?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 02/28/17 at 8:57 pm

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/499/738/bbe.png

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: spf180 on 02/28/17 at 10:21 pm


http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/499/738/bbe.png

So I am guessing you're getting Switch.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/01/17 at 8:40 am


But it doesn't sound like 1999 blink-182 pop punk like the first one. I don't buy pop punk to listen to slow soft songs. They can whine all they want but at least pick up the tempo!

And now it's been TEN days since Jordan has been gone.

Jordan, come back! We need your guiding light of wit in these grim, tense times. :(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/01/17 at 8:55 am

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nPhVhQZUCpM/hqdefault.jpg


So I am guessing you're getting Switch.


Yes!! I was too late to preorder it but I'm definitely getting at/near launch if I can.

How about you?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/01/17 at 8:55 am


And now it's been TEN days since Jordan has been gone.

Jordan, come back! We need your guiding light of wit in these grim, tense times. :(


Thew new Nickelback song DESTROYED him. You won't be seeing him for a while! Even I'm shook. No one saw it coming.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/01/17 at 11:07 pm

March has arrived and literally nothing has changed in pop culture so far. I think because people are so focused on politics and Trump, they are just not interested in the culture so everything is the same as 2016 and the mid 10s in general. A lot of people thought the new presidency will bring a change in culture (including myself) but I guess we were wrong.  :o If it keeps up like this up until 2020, the 2010s will go down in being the most consistent decade in pop culture history! But maybe things will change later on in the year or in 2018.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 03/02/17 at 12:38 am


March has arrived and literally nothing has changed in pop culture so far. I think because people are so focused on politics and Trump, they are just not interested in the culture so everything is the same as 2016 and the mid 10s in general. A lot of people thought the new presidency will bring a change in culture (including myself) but I guess we were wrong.  :o If it keeps up like this up until 2020, the 2010s will go down in being the most consistent decade in pop culture history! But maybe things will change later on in the year or in 2018.


It's disappointing that popular culture has largely remained the same, even more so considering the current political climate and the polarisation among the general population. Of course, I wasn't expecting a dramatic change in culture for 2017, but I was hoping that there would at least be some noticeable differences. It's almost as if society has completely lost the ability, as well as the desire, to be authentic and original.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/02/17 at 2:46 am

Since when did a new president immediately mean new pop culture? New culture arises, but not extremely fast. We haven't even got into 2020 yet.  ::)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 03/02/17 at 5:19 am


Since when did a new president immediately mean new pop culture?


Well, how often is someone like Donald Trump elected as the President? With the amount of protests and backlash since his election victory (and that's on a global scale as well), it wouldn't have been a complete shock if there was a change in pop culture.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/02/17 at 10:24 am

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/499/735/83e.jpg

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/02/17 at 10:29 am

Who is Trump? I don't know her. Tomorrow is when gaming changes forever! Grab onto your pussies!

Recent years where gaming changed forever:
1986
1991
1998
2007
2017

http://i.imgur.com/pEvqHEx.gif

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/02/17 at 10:35 am


Well, how often is someone like Donald Trump elected as the President? With the amount of protests and backlash since his election victory (and that's on a global scale as well), it wouldn't have been a complete shock if there was a change in pop culture.


Well, he's just very inexperienced within politics. The only reason why people liked him because he was a businessman, even though he went bankrupt four times since 1991. That said, he's not as good as a businessman as he is America's president. Add to the fact in which we live in a world where EVERYONE could modify the news, it could dangerously drift the world away from the truth.


Who is Trump? I don't know her. Tomorrow is when gaming changes forever! Grab onto your pussies!

Recent years where gaming changed forever:
1986
1991
1998
2007
2017

http://i.imgur.com/pEvqHEx.gif


Having a cartridge based console doesn't really change the industry at all. In fact, it just shows that Nintendo is not good with their competition, as Sony and Microsoft are kicking their asses.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/02/17 at 10:41 am


Having a cartridge based console doesn't really change the industry at all. In fact, it just shows that Nintendo is not good with their competition, as Sony and Microsoft are kicking their asses.


http://i.imgur.com/VWQxx1N.png
+10/10 from IGN.

This is top 5 games of all time territory. This is going down in the history books! When will Puny and Micropenis? Stay pressed!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/02/17 at 10:44 am


http://i.imgur.com/VWQxx1N.png
+10/10 from IGN.

This is top 5 games of all time territory. This is going down in the history books! When will Puny and Micropenis? Stay pressed!


With their games, Nintendo might have an advantage with both Microsoft and Sony. However, that doesn't mean the Switch is technologically advanced compared to the PS4 and Xbox One.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/02/17 at 11:21 am


http://i.imgur.com/VWQxx1N.png
+10/10 from IGN.

This is top 5 games of all time territory. This is going down in the history books! When will Puny and Micropenis? Stay pressed!


Oh wow. Today is the day that Nintendo surprises the world yet again. They've did the impossible and have overtaken Zelda Ocarina of Time's legendary status with Breath of the Wild. Too bad I won't be getting the game until late 2017 though.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/02/17 at 11:25 am


With their games, Nintendo might have an advantage with both Microsoft and Sony. However, that doesn't mean the Switch is technologically advanced compared to the PS4 and Xbox One.


Well here is the thing. Even amazing games aren't good enough to ensure victory. Like I stated before Nintendo released Zelda Ocarina of Time in the 5th gen. Yet Sony still beat them. Nintendo had Mario Galaxy for the Wii and while the Wii DID in fact win the 7th gen the reason it won certainly wasn't because of its quality games as most people say the Wii's victory was a fluke.

HOWEVER, with all that said it seems that the Switch may be in a different situation than the Wii/Wii U. Nintendo seems to be moving away from the casual crowd and are now focusing on their hardcore fanbase again. Switch has a ton of upcoming games, Nintendo stated that they now have more new younger devs in the company, and they're changing their focus. If Nintendo plays their cards right Nintendo could in fact relive their glory days and be king of gaming like they did during the NES/SNES days. Now I just wait and see what Microsoft and Sony bring to the table.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/02/17 at 11:31 am


Well, how often is someone like Donald Trump elected as the President? With the amount of protests and backlash since his election victory (and that's on a global scale as well), it wouldn't have been a complete shock if there was a change in pop culture.


It doesn't change the fact that pop culture doesn't change immediately. Also pop cultural changes is only noticeable in hindsight. Change is VERY gradual and almost impossible to pinpoint. We won't notice a change until we look back on today from a few years down the line. Anyone who says that they can immediately notice pop cultural changes are most likely fooling themselves. I don't expect for change to be noticeable until the 2020s. Or at least when the 2010s backlash actually happens. But for now there is no point is trying to claim how pop culture will change or stay the same. Not yet anyways.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/02/17 at 12:20 pm


It doesn't change the fact that pop culture doesn't change immediately. Also pop cultural changes is only noticeable in hindsight. Change is VERY gradual and almost impossible to pinpoint. We won't notice a change until we look back on today from a few years down the line. Anyone who says that they can immediately notice pop cultural changes are most likely fooling themselves. I don't expect for change to be noticeable until the 2020s. Or at least when the 2010s backlash actually happens. But for now there is no point is trying to claim how pop culture will change or stay the same. Not yet anyways.

Welll in 2008 and 2013 I noticed changes, especially 2008, so I don't think you can't notice them. Maybe you can't pinpoint when exactly the change happened. I guess it also has to do with your personal life too and sometimes changes in culture are more apperent if things in your personal life change too.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/02/17 at 12:50 pm


It doesn't change the fact that pop culture doesn't change immediately. Also pop cultural changes is only noticeable in hindsight. Change is VERY gradual and almost impossible to pinpoint. We won't notice a change until we look back on today from a few years down the line. Anyone who says that they can immediately notice pop cultural changes are most likely fooling themselves. I don't expect for change to be noticeable until the 2020s. Or at least when the 2010s backlash actually happens. But for now there is no point is trying to claim how pop culture will change or stay the same. Not yet anyways.


Unless it's 1999!  :D  :D  :D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/02/17 at 2:27 pm


Well here is the thing. Even amazing games aren't good enough to ensure victory. Like I stated before Nintendo released Zelda Ocarina of Time in the 5th gen. Yet Sony still beat them. Nintendo had Mario Galaxy for the Wii and while the Wii DID in fact win the 7th gen the reason it won certainly wasn't because of its quality games as most people say the Wii's victory was a fluke.


The Xbox 360 honestly won the 7th generation, since Nintendo didn't have a dominant console after the Nintendo 64. Even when I loved the Wii during the late 2000s and very early 2010s, it wasn't the greatest console that I ever played with. In fact, I played older Nintendo games (specifically the NES, SNES, and Nintendo 64) which proven that I didn't really care for the Wii that much. I was more desperate to get the Xbox 360, so I could finally play Sega Genesis games (on Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection of course), which occupied me more than the Wii.


HOWEVER, with all that said it seems that the Switch may be in a different situation than the Wii/Wii U. Nintendo seems to be moving away from the casual crowd and are now focusing on their hardcore fanbase again. Switch has a ton of upcoming games, Nintendo stated that they now have more new younger devs in the company, and they're changing their focus. If Nintendo plays their cards right Nintendo could in fact relive their glory days and be king of gaming like they did during the NES/SNES days. Now I just wait and see what Microsoft and Sony bring to the table.


Even if Nintendo does that with their fanbase, they wouldn't get the same reputation they got during the NES/SNES/N64 days. Microsoft and Sony fanboys are more progressive than them, and they've been using DVD playback since 2000. The only Nintendo console that provided DVD playback was the Panasonic Q (which was a bundled Gamecube as a DVD player), but it was only released in Japan. The fact that Nintendo barely cares about their fanbase with what they want is deceiving to me.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: muppethammer26 on 03/02/17 at 3:03 pm


The Xbox 360 honestly won the 7th generation, since Nintendo didn't have a dominant console after the Nintendo 64. Even when I loved the Wii during the late 2000s and very early 2010s, it wasn't the greatest console that I ever played with. In fact, I played older Nintendo games (specifically the NES, SNES, and Nintendo 64) which proven that I didn't really care for the Wii that much. I was more desperate to get the Xbox 360, so I could finally play Sega Genesis games (on Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection of course), which occupied me more than the Wii.

Even if Nintendo does that with their fanbase, they wouldn't get the same reputation they got during the NES/SNES/N64 days. Microsoft and Sony fanboys are more progressive than them, and they've been using DVD playback since 2000. The only Nintendo console that provided DVD playback was the Panasonic Q (which was a bundled Gamecube as a DVD player), but it was only released in Japan. The fact that Nintendo barely cares about their fanbase with what they want is deceiving to me.


1. The Wii sold more than the Xbox 360 only because of it's unusual controller and it's motion sensing capabilities, but the Wii still had a few great games.

2. Nintendo purposely didn't put DVD playback in their newer consoles, so they can make their consoles the cheapest on the market.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/02/17 at 3:15 pm


1. The Wii sold more than the Xbox 360 only because of it's unusual controller and it's motion sensing capabilities, but the Wii still had a few great games.


That gives away from its advantages, but Microsoft and Sony already copied what Nintendo did during the late 2000s/early 2010s with their own motion control gaming. Hell, even Microsoft did it better with the Kinect and its still selling. Nintendo just gave up on its motion controls with the Wii U, while they had it slightly different with the Switch.


2. Nintendo purposely didn't put DVD playback in their newer consoles, so they can make their consoles the cheapest on the market.


But that still doesn't mean they're doing well. Especially when the Wii was launched.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/02/17 at 4:44 pm


Welll in 2008 and 2013 I noticed changes, especially 2008, so I don't think you can't notice them. Maybe you can't pinpoint when exactly the change happened. I guess it also has to do with your personal life too and sometimes changes in culture are more apperent if things in your personal life change too.


Hm, I suppose that makes sense. Our own personal lives do kinda determine our views on pop culture. Pop culture can influence your personal life and if your personal life didn't experience any noticeable changes then you may see Pop culture being the same  as it was before. Hm, funny you mentioned '08 and '13. Didn't Obama have his election and 2nd terms around those times? A new president can give a change to an era, but maybe we put too much emphasis on change when it came to Trump. However, with all that said I find it hard to believe that we experienced change with a more level headed president like Obama yet fail to see any change with a more radical president like Trump.

Now I'm confused. Oh well. 2017 may not have any big changes, but I didn't expect much to change until the very end of this decade or sometime in the early part of the next decade. And since you and I are in different regions we may experience change at different rates. Who knows? For now I'm going to keep an eye out for pop cultural changes.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/02/17 at 4:58 pm


Hm, I suppose that makes sense. Our own personal lives do kinda determine our views on pop culture. Pop culture can influence your personal life and if your personal life didn't experience any noticeable changes then you may see Pop culture being the same  as it was before. Hm, funny you mentioned '08 and '13. Didn't Obama have his election and 2nd terms around those times? A new president can give a change to an era, but maybe we put too much emphasis on change when it came to Trump. However, with all that said I find it hard to believe that we experienced change with a more level headed president like Obama yet fail to see any change with a more radical president like Trump.

Now I'm confused. Oh well. 2017 may not have any big changes, but I didn't expect much to change until the very end of this decade or sometime in the early part of the next decade. And since you and I are in different regions we may experience change at different rates. Who knows? For now I'm going to keep an eye out for pop cultural changes.

Yeah but you do have a good point of not seeing the change until after a couple years have passed, especially if it is gradual. It definitely isn't always possible to notice changes as they are happening. I guess it all depends. Same here, I'll be looking but so far I am not expecting much change haha.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/02/17 at 6:36 pm


With their games, Nintendo might have an advantage with both Microsoft and Sony. However, that doesn't mean the Switch is technologically advanced compared to the PS4 and Xbox One.


In the infamous words of the greatest thinker and philosopher of the 2000s, Chad Warden, and I quote: "I'm talking about games. We came to play games. We ain't come to play with no dil-do."

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/02/17 at 6:45 pm


The Xbox 360 honestly won the 7th generation, since Nintendo didn't have a dominant console after the Nintendo 64. Even when I loved the Wii during the late 2000s and very early 2010s, it wasn't the greatest console that I ever played with. In fact, I played older Nintendo games (specifically the NES, SNES, and Nintendo 64) which proven that I didn't really care for the Wii that much. I was more desperate to get the Xbox 360, so I could finally play Sega Genesis games (on Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection of course), which occupied me more than the Wii.

Even if Nintendo does that with their fanbase, they wouldn't get the same reputation they got during the NES/SNES/N64 days. Microsoft and Sony fanboys are more progressive than them, and they've been using DVD playback since 2000. The only Nintendo console that provided DVD playback was the Panasonic Q (which was a bundled Gamecube as a DVD player), but it was only released in Japan. The fact that Nintendo barely cares about their fanbase with what they want is deceiving to me.


Cartridges are way better for portability. They don't break if you put them in your bag.  This was settled in 2005 during the DS vs. PSP wars, people prefer cartridges. No one buys DVDs in 2017 so that's not an important feature either tbh. Even the PS4 Pro removed Blu-ray/DVD playback.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/02/17 at 8:40 pm


In the infamous words of the greatest thinker and philosopher of the 2000s, Chad Warden, and I quote: "I'm talking about games. We came to play games. We ain't come to play with no dil-do."


Bruh, he predicted Nintendo sucking ass in the future. If he was actually active on the Internet right now, he'll be laughing his ass off on Nintendo's fanboys. Even though he admitted that he was only playing a character.


Cartridges are way better for portability. They don't break if you put them in your bag.  This was settled in 2005 during the DS vs. PSP wars, people prefer cartridges. No one buys DVDs in 2017 so that's not an important feature either tbh. Even the PS4 Pro removed Blu-ray/DVD playback.


Both of them are decent for portability. Nobody personally cared for cartridges, except for Nintendo fanboys. Also when I said people cared about DVD playback, that was during the early 2000s, when not a lot of people didn't have a DVD player yet. Of course no one would give a sh*t about not having DVD playback nowadays, when everyone has one or two.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/02/17 at 8:46 pm

10/10 from Gamespot (who gave 8.8 to Twilight Princess and 7.5 to Skyward Sword).

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2 hours left until the world changes forever.

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Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/02/17 at 9:34 pm


no one would give a sh*t about not having DVD playback nowadays, when everyone has one or two.

I actually think no one would care because nobody really uses DVDs/Blu-Ray anymore. I haven't used my DVD player in 4 years.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/02/17 at 10:10 pm


Both of them are decent for portability. Nobody personally cared for cartridges, except for Nintendo fanboys. Also when I said people cared about DVD playback, that was during the early 2000s, when not a lot of people didn't have a DVD player yet. Of course no one would give a sh*t about not having DVD playback nowadays, when everyone has one or two.


Eek, no. Even Vita uses cartridges. People don't want to carry around discs. They're fragile, they crack and they get scratched, duh. And DVD is dead like the American dream. It's been 20+ years since it came out, that's ancient technology, it's time to move on. The last time I used DVD was probably 2007 or 2008 lol.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/02/17 at 10:20 pm

The late 10's is volatile, current event-wise!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/03/17 at 12:27 am

I think cartridges are really cool, but I don't think it's enough to save Nintendo. The game selection so far for the Nintendo Switch is really bad. But we shall wait and see. I'm not a hardcore gamer so I don't really know a lot about it.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/03/17 at 6:23 am


I actually think no one would care because nobody really uses DVDs/Blu-Ray anymore. I haven't used my DVD player in 4 years.


I still use DVDs, but they're like a hobby to me. Although people say that because we have digital streaming nowadays.


Eek, no. Even Vita uses cartridges. People don't want to carry around discs. They're fragile, they crack and they get scratched, duh. And DVD is dead like the American dream. It's been 20+ years since it came out, that's ancient technology, it's time to move on. The last time I used DVD was probably 2007 or 2008 lol.


The Vita isn't even one of Sony's biggest consoles. Even the original PSP was more popular than the Vita. Plus, it's a handheld console, which still uses cartridges by some point.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/03/17 at 6:48 am

Nintendo's success with the Switch MIGHT give evidence of a cultural change around in the late 2010s. Games can be a big part of pop culture and I must be honest in that Nintendo didn't have a huge effect on pop culture when it came to their consoles (the 3DS was big, but I'm talking only consoles like the Wii U). Maybe Nintendo can effect things greatly like they did during the late 1980s and early 1990s. Although I'm sure Microsoft, Sony, and Steam gaming will also cause for changes.

As for cartridges vs DVD? I'd rather have a disc. Discs can scratch, but that's only because you don't take good care of them.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/03/17 at 7:06 am


Nintendo's success with the Switch MIGHT give evidence of a cultural change around in the late 2010s. Games can be a big part of pop culture and I must be honest in that Nintendo didn't have a huge effect on pop culture when it came to their consoles (the 3DS was big, but I'm talking only consoles like the Wii U). Maybe Nintendo can effect things greatly like they did during the late 1980s and early 1990s. Although I'm sure Microsoft, Sony, and Steam gaming will also cause for changes.

As for cartridges vs DVD? I'd rather have a disc. Discs can scratch, but that's only because you don't take good care of them.


It was revolutionary for them to culturally change the world during the late 80s/early 90s, since they revived the gaming industry after the 1983 crash. The NES was also common to see in any kid's house at that time. The Switch on the other hand is just not a good thing to see, since it's not something that anybody (aside from Nintendo fanboys) would want to buy. The only thing I like about the Switch is their mascot.

I figure that it might not do well, since cartridges are more expensive to produce and program on compared to DVDs. So Nintendo is already screwing themselves over with that decision.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/03/17 at 7:17 am


The Vita isn't even one of Sony's biggest consoles. Even the original PSP was more popular than the Vita. Plus, it's a handheld console, which still uses cartridges by some point.


That was my entire point... The Switch is a handheld.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/03/17 at 7:19 am


That was my entire point... The Switch is a handheld. Fail lol.


So basically, Nintendo doesn't make actual home consoles anymore? So I guess they're doing as bad as Sega was in the late 90s/early 2000s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/03/17 at 7:23 am


So basically, Nintendo doesn't make actual home consoles anymore? So I guess they're doing as bad as Sega was in the late 90s/early 2000s.


Switch(available in stores today!)ing the goalposts. Nice try.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/03/17 at 7:45 am


Switch(available in stores today!)ing the goalposts. Nice try.


Except that they're doing as bad as Sega with the Dreamcast now. The Switch isn't going to be a landslide with gamers.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 03/03/17 at 7:51 am


I actually think no one would care because nobody really uses DVDs/Blu-Ray anymore. I haven't used my DVD player in 4 years.


I don't remember the last time I used mine either.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: spf180 on 03/03/17 at 3:46 pm


How about you?

Not till it can be hacked then I'll might get the Switch.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/03/17 at 6:04 pm

I laugh at the people who mention Nintendo and how they're going back to cartridges. First off Nintendo NEVER left non-Disc/cartridge games. Even though they stopped after the N64 ended they still carried on with the Gameboy Color, then Gameboy Advance, then Nintendo DS, and finally the Nintendo 3DS. Hell the "cartridge" on the switch doesn't look like any of the NES, SNES, and N64 cartridges.

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The Switch cartridge is literally just a modified SD card. Hell, it's even smaller than the 3DS cartride. Nintendo never left the usage of cartridges which makes me wonder why some people (not referring to anyone here) are so shocked about it. They aren't nearly as big or in the same shape as the 3rd gen to 5th gen cartridges.

It's like 2D gaming. People treat 2D gaming as this thing that died and now when it's brought people refer to it as "being retro" despite 2D never dying. The Gameboy Advance was all 2D. Half of the DS' games were in 2D. And by the time the DS was ending its life Steam, PSN, XBLA, and the Eshop were already in full swing with a ton of 2D games. I swear it's like a ton of misconceptions just spread around and people cling to them.

As for the Switch and its cartridges the thing is just a Nintendo SD card. I suppose this is alright, however, I preferred discs over cartridges, but hey opinions are a golden creation.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/03/17 at 9:51 pm

I love cartridges and prefer them way more than disks. This is the best decision Nintendo has done. Having said that I don't know if it will save the Switch given the lack of games so far.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/03/17 at 10:03 pm

If DVDs truly die out (and I mean this), I'll probably go out and buy a couple USB drives to use media outside of the Internet.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/03/17 at 10:11 pm


If DVDs truly die out (and I mean this), I'll probably go out and buy a couple USB drives to use media outside of the Internet.

They're already dead in my life. I keep them as a novelty now lol.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/03/17 at 10:20 pm


They're already dead in my life. I keep them as a novelty now lol.


I still collect DVDs, even though most of them were distributed during the 2000s. It was totally different compared to now, when everybody took DVDs seriously. Now it's all about getting it from Netflix, despite having most business still cater to DVD fans.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 03/04/17 at 7:25 am


They're already dead in my life. I keep them as a novelty now lol.


I gave away my VCR movies tapes and kept my DVDs.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/04/17 at 7:37 am


I love cartridges and prefer them way more than disks. This is the best decision Nintendo has done. Having said that I don't know if it will save the Switch given the lack of games so far.


I don't see the appeal of cartridges. Although this is due to me thinking of the old ones. I like how with discs I can put them in cases and organize them easier. But I'm sure Nintendo has already fixed this issue. Like I mentioned the Gameboy systems and DS systems all used cartridges and still could be placed inside of cases. So I assume the same is the case for the Switch. As for whether or not this will save the Switch well I don't know why people would buy a console just because of the tangible game format. In fact most gamers these days prefer digital downloads over retail purchases. I'm more of a retail lover as I like how the games look when placed on my shelf. I'm able to see my collection grow.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/04/17 at 8:24 am


I don't see the appeal of cartridges. Although this is due to me thinking of the old ones. I like how with discs I can put them in cases and organize them easier. But I'm sure Nintendo has already fixed this issue. Like I mentioned the Gameboy systems and DS systems all used cartridges and still could be placed inside of cases. So I assume the same is the case for the Switch. As for whether or not this will save the Switch well I don't know why people would buy a console just because of the tangible game format. In fact most gamers these days prefer digital downloads over retail purchases. I'm more of a retail lover as I like how the games look when placed on my shelf. I'm able to see my collection grow.


People should've called the Nintendo Switch cartridges as game cards, since they're more inspired by SD card than actual cartridges. An average cartridge wouldn't even hold the same amount of data as a Nintendo Switch game, so it seems unlikely if it was a true cartridge.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/04/17 at 1:10 pm


I don't see the appeal of cartridges. Although this is due to me thinking of the old ones. I like how with discs I can put them in cases and organize them easier. But I'm sure Nintendo has already fixed this issue. Like I mentioned the Gameboy systems and DS systems all used cartridges and still could be placed inside of cases. So I assume the same is the case for the Switch. As for whether or not this will save the Switch well I don't know why people would buy a console just because of the tangible game format. In fact most gamers these days prefer digital downloads over retail purchases. I'm more of a retail lover as I like how the games look when placed on my shelf. I'm able to see my collection grow.

Cartridges don't get scratched or don't break as easily. They are also more efficient in holding memory so the game loads faster and performs better. They are overall much better than disks.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/04/17 at 1:49 pm


Cartridges don't get scratched or don't break as easily. They are also more efficient in holding memory so the game loads faster and performs better. They are overall much better than disks.


If this was in the 90s, then everyone would disagree you on that. Cartridges were way different back then. However since this is the time where SD cards are common, then you're probably right.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/04/17 at 1:54 pm


If this was in the 90s, then everyone would disagree you on that. Cartridges were way different back then. However since this is the time where SD cards are common, then you're probably right.

Even back then I liked them more. They looked nicer and were still more rigid than disks and didn't break easily. I miss cartridges. Cartridges >> Disks imo.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/04/17 at 2:00 pm


Even back then I liked them more. They looked nicer and were still more rigid than disks and didn't break easily. I miss cartridges. Cartridges >> Disks imo.


Except cartridges back then only hold from 256KB to 64MB. Some games even have to require expansion packs in order to completely work, like Perfect Dark or Donkey Kong 64. Compact discs could hold more than that.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/04/17 at 2:08 pm


Except cartridges back then only hold from 256KB to 64MB. Some games even have to require expansion packs in order to completely work, like Perfect Dark or Donkey Kong 64. Compact discs could hold more than that.

The format itself is still better than disks even if it can't hold as much. If they figured out a way to increase the storage capacity, it is far superior to disks.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/04/17 at 2:13 pm


The format itself is still better than disks even if it can't hold as much. If they figured out a way to increase the storage capacity, it is far superior to disks.


It's not even universal. Hell, even floppy disks from the early 80s have more storage than cartridges.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/04/17 at 2:17 pm


It's not even universal. Hell, even floppy disks from the early 80s have more storage than cartridges.

So? Cartriddges are awesome, not only do they look better than disks but they are also more durable. I'm glad they are making a comeback and Nintendo did great bringing then back (even in the form of SD cards). Some retro tech is superior than newer formats, cartridges is an example of this. These days it's easy to add more storage to cartridges. It is not difficult to do.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/04/17 at 2:37 pm


So? Cartridges are awesome, not only do they look better than disks but they are also more durable.


People could easily smash cartridges with a hammer, the same way disks could easily be destroyed. It's not that hard. The only reason why people say that to CDs and DVDs because of how they don't take care of them properly. I have DVDs produced all the way from the late 90s, and they can still work. Same with my recorded DVDs from the mid 2000s, which are now 10-12 years old.


I'm glad they are making a comeback and Nintendo did great bringing then back (even in the form of SD cards). Some retro tech is superior than newer formats, cartridges is an example of this. These days it's easy to add more storage to cartridges. It is not difficult to do.


That's because SD cards do have more storage than cartridges that Nintendo used 15-30 years ago. There could be SD cards that hold up to 1TB, which is way bigger than cartridges made in the late 70s to early 2000s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/04/17 at 3:12 pm


People could easily smash cartridges with a hammer, the same way disks could easily be destroyed. It's not that hard. The only reason why people say that to CDs and DVDs because of how they don't take care of them properly. I have DVDs produced all the way from the late 90s, and they can still work. Same with my recorded DVDs from the mid 2000s, which are now 10-12 years old.

That's because SD cards do have more storage than cartridges that Nintendo used 15-30 years ago. There could be SD cards that hold up to 1TB, which is way bigger than cartridges made in the late 70s to early 2000s.

They are more durable... You can't scratch a cartridge, you can with s disk easily.

Sorry but what point are you trying to make? You don't like Nintendo Switch because they are using cartridges? Or you do like the switch now because they are not the same ones from the 1970s? I'm confused on what stance you are taking.  ???

I prefer cartridges along with other people. You prefer disks along with other people. This is opinion based, there is no right or wrong answer.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/04/17 at 3:13 pm

This argument is just stale mate at this point. Modern cartridges are not better than Discs. Discs are not better than cartridges. Cartridges improved and so did Discs. You could argue that discs can scratch and the solution was Blu Ray (and even normal DVDs now) which doesn't scratch nearly as easily as normal discs. The only way you could scratch them is by purposely putting a lot of force/energy into doing it. You could say that cartridges don't hold as much data, but that limitation was removed. They can still run out of memory, but not as often as before.  Like all forms of media they have their groups of fans. I'm a disc man, but I have friends who like using SD cards or USBs over CDs and Discs.

They're both on the same level. What I can't get is why people say N64 cartridges were better than PS1 discs (not saying on this forum say this, but I see this on other parts of the internet). The arguement is dumb. Sure the N64 loaded faster, but at the cost of a severly limited game. Games like Final Fantasy 7 or literally 90% of PS1 games COULD NOT fit on an N64 cartridge unless the devs spent a ton of money trying to make better cartridges. And cartridges were already expensive to make. So there was no real advantage that really enhanced the gameplay. But this issue has been removed in modern time. And it's 2017 and not 1997.

Now we have digital downloaded games which literally remove the problems of both cartridges AND discs (regardless of advancements to both of these). Can't scratch 'em, can't break 'em, the games are saved to the console itself which holds WAY more memory than both. AAANNNDDD if that wasn't enough digital download games aren't as financially risky as DVDs and Cartridges. Only issue is that I love physical games, but I can appreciate better methods when I notice them. Only downside to downloadable games is that it requires you to be online. But seeing how we have it where with a lot of games most of the sales come from downloads these days I don't find this to be an issue.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/04/17 at 3:14 pm

Cartridges will always be the best. I love Nintendo's move on this. Disks in my opinion are the absolute worst physical media format that has ever been created.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/04/17 at 3:17 pm


Cartridges will always be the best. I love Nintendo's move on this.


And I love discs. They will always be the best. And I love that they're still in use. It's all opinion based and not fact at this point. Neither one is REALLY better than one or the other outside of superficial claims.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/04/17 at 3:20 pm


And I love discs. They will always be the best. And I love that they're still in use. It's all opinion based and not fact at this point. Neither one is REALLY better than one or the other outside of superficial claims.

That's fair, I agree. It is opinion-based.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/04/17 at 3:30 pm


They are more durable... You can't scratch a cartridge, you can with s disk easily.


So basically the same media cannot be destroyed, but an SD card can. Do you know how that contradicts your logic?

Sorry but what point are you trying to make? You don't like Nintendo Switch because they are using cartridges? Or you do like the switch now because they are not the same ones from the 1970s? I'm confused on what stance you are taking.  ???

I don't like the Switch because of Nintendo fanboys keep advertising the thing, when Nintendo isn't going to do that well with the Switch. They haven't made a sophisticated console since the Wii, and I think the casual audience helped them with that. It gave them more money than they had during the early-mid 2000s. Ever since the Wii U was launched, their sales have flopped. The 3DS was their only saving grace, and everyone didn't give a f*ck. I'm not even stating the Switch sucks as a fact, I just don't like of how everyone treats it as the next big thing. Also, I'm not into consoles made during the 70s.


I prefer cartridges along with other people. You prefer disks along with other people. This is opinion based, there is no right or wrong answer.


What other people? Nobody has ever supported cartridges since the mid 90s. Not even old school Nintendo fans care anymore, since they see cartridges as a classic media.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/04/17 at 3:33 pm


And I love discs. They will always be the best. And I love that they're still in use. It's all opinion based and not fact at this point. Neither one is REALLY better than one or the other outside of superficial claims.


You actually can make some logical, objective arguments. The fact is that the Switch is a portable console, and discs are not good for portability. Unless you put it in the box, it can easily get scratched. Now if you're carrying the box with you everywhere you go, then that defeats the point of portability. You could probably get a filing bag for your discs, but that's still way bigger (and heavier) than cartridges.

The old argument for discs (more storage space) doesn't really hold anymore either. The Switch cartridge holds 16GB of data, and Nintendo plans on rolling out a 32GB one as well. A double-pressed DVD's maximum storage is 9.4GB, so that's that on that. Everyone who lived through the horror of Final Fantasy 13's three discs and GTA4's two discs for the Xbox 360 lives to tell that story. Blu-rays can hold 50GB, but the drives are still expensive (ever wonder why pre-made PCs still use a DVD drive instead of a Blu-ray drive? ;D) and would have drove up the cost of the Switch.

For the DS and 3DS, I have a cartridge holder, and I'm sure to be getting one for the Switch as well. This is portability. :P

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Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/04/17 at 3:52 pm



What other people? Nobody has ever supported cartridges since the mid 90s. Not even old school Nintendo fans care anymore, since they see cartridges as a classic media.

Really? What about all of these people in this reddit forum? What about almost every tech YouTuber out there who knows about tech? What about the 10 people I polled on Yik Yak? What about me? What about some of the people on this forum? Are you joking me? How can you make such a statement like that? Nobody supports cartridges when the majority prefer it over disks. You have got to be joking...
https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/4ic1ix/cartridges_vs_discs_which_do_you_prefer_and_why/?utm_source=amp_share&utm_medium=tweet

How can you say nobody supports cartridges when a huge majority does? I can bring out more articles and forums if you would like.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/04/17 at 3:54 pm


So basically the same media cannot be destroyed, but an SD card can. Do you know how that contradicts your logic?


Who said that an sd card can be destroyed? I said DISKS can scratch easily, sd cards/cartridges can't.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/04/17 at 3:55 pm


Really? What about all of these people in this reddit forum? What about almost every tech YouTuber out there who knows about tech? Are you joking me? How can you make such a statement like that? Nobody supports cartridges when the majority prefer it over disks. You have got to be joking...
https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/4ic1ix/cartridges_vs_discs_which_do_you_prefer_and_why/?utm_source=amp_share&utm_medium=tweet

How can you say nobody supports cartridges when a huge majority does? I can bring out more articles and forums if you would like.


A Nintendo subreddit? The promised land. *__* There's some sampling bias though, Nintendo fans might like cartridges more than the average gamer. ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/04/17 at 4:01 pm

Even Linus from LTT knows cartridges are better than disks and he hates Nintendo. I'm not sure what NYE is talking about in that nobody is supporting cartridges when majority prefer it over disks. Hell I'm not even a gamer and not a fanboy of Nintendo (I gave my criticisms of the Switch) and even I prefer cartridges over disks.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/04/17 at 4:13 pm


You actually can make some logical, objective arguments. The fact is that the Switch is a portable console, and discs are not good for portability. Unless you put it in the box, it can easily get scratched. Now if you're carrying the box with you everywhere you go, then that defeats the point of portability. You could probably get a filing bag for your discs, but that's still way bigger (and heavier) than cartridges.

The old argument for discs (more storage space) doesn't really hold anymore either. The Switch cartridge holds 16GB of data, and Nintendo plans on rolling out a 32GB one as well. A double-pressed DVD's maximum storage is 9.4GB, so that's that on that. Everyone who lived through the horror of Final Fantasy 13's three discs and GTA4's two discs for the Xbox 360 lives to tell that story. Blu-rays can hold 50GB, but the drives are still expensive (ever wonder why pre-made PCs still use a DVD drive instead of a Blu-ray drive? ;D) and would have drove up the cost of the Switch.

For the DS and 3DS, I have a cartridge holder, and I'm sure to be getting one for the Switch as well. This is portability. :P

http://i1.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/m/mAxsMo8e0RQaikCYZq4HdRg/s-l225.jpg


http://www.relatably.com/m/img/false-guy-meme-generator/63918938.jpg

The PSP used Discs and it was a success. Also remember the Discmans CD Players?  They were portable and were very popular. And I'm aware that the old argument of cartridges having limited space doesn't work anymore. I brought it literally explaining how it doesn't work anymore. As I said cartridges have improved and moved past this limitation. And I know the Switch is portable.

Now for the live of all that is good can we move away from this topic? I fail to see how Nintendo going to cartridges is even a huge deal. The Switch using "cartridges" is literally the same thing as the 3DS using cartridges. There is nothing exciting or interesting about in the grand scheme of gaming. And I doubt it will make a huge difference in the game industry as most devs are moving towards digital downloadable games anyways. At this point this conversation is just bias between users.  Most arguments for why cartridges are superior to discs and vice versa are based on outdated tech and information. Limitations that have been removed as of 2017.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/04/17 at 4:19 pm

Well I was about to move from this topic and I agree it is opinion based, but NewYorkEagle literally said "nobody" supports cartridges when I said "some support disks and some support cartridges" so I had to defend myself and prove that's false lol.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/04/17 at 4:27 pm


Well I was about to move from this topic and I agree it is opinion based, but NewYorkEagle literally said "nobody" supports cartridges when I said "some support disks and some support cartridges" so I had to defend myself and prove that's false lol.


I have a big question to ask you. Why does it matter so much about cartridges, when Nintendo only cares about them? In fact, when you show that "everybody" else cares about cartridges, you put on a SUBREDDIT for Nintendo!! What about Microsoft and Sony? Do they not count for you? Why does it only matter for Nintendo to care about cartridges? You even admit that it's a fact, rather than a goddamn opinion.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/04/17 at 4:57 pm


Even Linus from LTT knows cartridges are better than disks and he hates Nintendo. I'm not sure what NYE is talking about in that nobody is supporting cartridges when majority prefer it over disks. Hell I'm not even a gamer and not a fanboy of Nintendo (I gave my criticisms of the Switch) and even I prefer cartridges over disks.


Will I be seriously oppressed if I say that I don't like cartridges? Because I don't know why you say it like it's a requirement to enjoy anything.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/04/17 at 5:39 pm


Will I be seriously oppressed if I say that I don't like cartridges? Because I don't know why you say it like it's a requirement to enjoy anything.

No that's fine if you don't. I respect your opinion.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: tv on 03/04/17 at 7:36 pm


The 90s had a big backlash against the 80s. The 00s did have a small backlash against the 90s but it was in the earlier part of the decade. And yeah it was mainly against bubblegum pop and boy bands like  Backstreet Boys music. Now in the 2010s, it's kind of weird because the 00s backlash actually happened during the 00s decade. So people just couldn't stand modern trends in the 2000s (even more than in the 2010s), when the 00s ended, not a huge amount has changed and it's not like people were happy they left the 2000s so the backlash wasn't there. I think this has to do with the confusion of decades and how many people didn't know we were in a new decade in the 10s. But this will change when the 2020s arrive because it will be clear we would be in a new decade and I have a feeling there will be major 2010s backlash in the 2020s.
Teen-Pop was still popular with O-Town and N'Sync having hits in the early 2000's but "The Backstreet Boys" were yesterday news by Spring 2001 I think. The 3rd CD(Black & Blue) sold 5.9 million which was a disappointment when compared to their previous album "Millennium" which sold 13.8 million copies.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: tv on 03/04/17 at 7:42 pm


I remember people on here posting about the 80's backlash. It was well under way by 1994, according to the posts. 1993 at the earliest, from my memory.
Makes sense since Michael, Madonna, and Prince, were all past their peak by 1993.
Well Michael Jackson was still popular in 1995 with hits like "Scream" featuring his sister Janet and "You Are Not Alone" which hit #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 in September of 1995.

Prince-His last significant hit was "I Hate U" in 1995 which hit #12 on the Billboard Hot 100.

Madonna-She was popular well into the 2000's.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: tv on 03/04/17 at 7:50 pm


There was a pretty massive '80s backlash in the '90s, especially after alternative rock became all the rage around 1992. I know when I was in school that if you had gotten caught listening to '80s stuff like Winger or Skid Row (or even stuff like Vanilla Ice that came out in the early '90s but was deemed as "eighties") then you would've been laughed out of the building.

On the other hand, there really wasn't a massive '90s backlash in the '00s. Core '90s stuff like Grunge was still seen as "cool" throughout most of the decade. To the extent that there was a '90s backlash, it mostly pertained to stuff from the late part of the decade like Hanson and the Backstreet Boys. I haven't really noticed much of an '00s backlash in the '10s to this point.
Hanson was forgotten about I think look a footnote by Spring 1998 I think. I just looked at their discography on Wikipedia and they did have a hit with "This Time Around" in 2000 which peaked at #20 on the Billboard Hot 100 but its just not memorable due to the all the other teen-pop music that was out there at the time.

I will say "MMMBop" from 1997 was a memorable song though wether you love it or hate it.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: spf180 on 03/04/17 at 7:56 pm

I wish for radio revolution because the only thing good on radio is the nostalgic radio stations. I wish for vapourwave to become more mainstream in late 2010s early 2020s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/04/17 at 8:27 pm


I wish for radio revolution because the only thing good on radio is the nostalgic radio stations. I wish for vapourwave to become more mainstream in late 2010s early 2020s.


Vaporwave is a little too out there for radio but I can see vaporwave inspired pop music happening. Here's an awesome Vaporwave/Rap album:

https://vektroid.bandcamp.com/album/midnight-run

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/04/17 at 8:53 pm


Well Michael Jackson was still popular in 1995 with hits like "Scream" featuring his sister Janet and "You Are Not Alone" which hit #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 in September of 1995.

Prince-His last significant hit was "I Hate U" in 1995 which hit #12 on the Billboard Hot 100.

Madonna-She was popular well into the 2000's.


Madonna was popular all the way until her Rebel Heart album that flopped. It doesn't mean that her next album won't go Gold/500,000 copies, but it's unlikely. I'll give her one more album/chance. If her next album doesn't sell then her album selling days are over until she dies, and people are interested in her again.

Michael was somewhat popular, but his reputation never recovered and affected his album sales after 1993. His 1995 History greatest hits album sold half of 1993's Dangerous album, partly because of the 1993 controversy. Even if he was popular in 1993, my point was that he was obviously past his peak after 1993.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: spf180 on 03/04/17 at 9:09 pm


Vaporwave is a little too out there for radio but I can see vaporwave inspired pop music happening. Here's an awesome Vaporwave/Rap album:

https://vektroid.bandcamp.com/album/midnight-run

Vapourwave a little too out there? Maybe now but soon its time will come hopefully in the 2020s.... I hope so.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/04/17 at 9:15 pm


Vaporwave is a little too out there for radio but I can see vaporwave inspired pop music happening. Here's an awesome Vaporwave/Rap album:

https://vektroid.bandcamp.com/album/midnight-run


I can see Vaporwave Rap (or Vaporap) being a big thing. All Vaporwave needs are a few changes sound wise to make it appeal to the general public. But for now I can easily Vaporwave inspired music. Pop music, Rap, Rock etc that take some influences from Vaporwave. Electronic music is very popular nowadays and Vaporwave counts as Electronic music. So it does have a chance at being mainstream if it had a few changes to it. Although the issue with this is that it'll upset a lot of Vaporwave purists. People who've been following the growing scene since the early 2010s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: tv on 03/04/17 at 9:21 pm


Madonna was popular all the way until her Rebel Heart album that flopped. It doesn't mean that her next album won't go Gold/500,000 copies, but it's unlikely. I'll give her one more album/chance. If her next album doesn't sell then her album selling days are over until she dies, and people are interested in her again.

Michael was somewhat popular, but his reputation never recovered and affected his album sales after 1993. His 1995 History greatest hits album sold half of 1993's Dangerous album, partly because of the 1993 controversy. Even if he was popular in 1993, my point was that he was obviously past his peak after 1993.
"Dangerous" was released November 26, 1991.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/04/17 at 9:21 pm


Vaporwave is a little too out there for radio but I can see vaporwave inspired pop music happening. Here's an awesome Vaporwave/Rap album:

https://vektroid.bandcamp.com/album/midnight-run


I can definitely see this being popular in 2022!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/04/17 at 9:22 pm


"Dangerous" was released November 26, 1991.


Doesn't change that Michael was passed his peak in 1995.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/04/17 at 10:08 pm


Vapourwave a little too out there? Maybe now but soon its time will come hopefully in the 2020s.... I hope so.

I personally hope not. I'm not a fan of vapourwave. I hope electro swing goes mainstream though.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 03/05/17 at 8:14 am

I just want this aesthetic back:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttq7kFTdePA

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 03/05/17 at 2:52 pm


And I love discs. They will always be the best. And I love that they're still in use. It's all opinion based and not fact at this point. Neither one is REALLY better than one or the other outside of superficial claims.


and it will never go out of style.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/05/17 at 4:44 pm


I wish for radio revolution


Hmm, now that Jordan is gone there's no one to suppress my free speech like Milo~

I present to you Revolution Radio!

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Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/06/17 at 6:11 pm

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Beware! The Nintendo Switch at launch is already having some technical issues. Doesn't help the fact that it's made out of somewhat low quality material. I'd recommend waiting around a year before buying one as Nintendo may improve on the hardware a bit. Luckily for the guy in the first video since I'm sure he can use warranty and get it replaced. The Switch doesn't seem to break easily, but you may need a screen protector as the screen may scratch quite easily. As for the Switch bugging out like in the first vid this is common among a lot of consoles at launch from the 7th gen to the 9th gen.

Now I await Sony/Microsoft's consoles which will most likely have the same problems.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: muppethammer26 on 03/07/17 at 2:46 pm


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Beware! The Nintendo Switch at launch is already having some technical issues. Doesn't help the fact that it's made out of somewhat low quality material. I'd recommend waiting around a year before buying one as Nintendo may improve on the hardware a bit. Luckily for the guy in the first video since I'm sure he can use warranty and get it replaced. The Switch doesn't seem to break easily, but you may need a screen protector as the screen may scratch quite easily. As for the Switch bugging out like in the first vid this is common among a lot of consoles at launch from the 7th gen to the 9th gen.

Now I await Sony/Microsoft's consoles which will most likely have the same problems.



But we still don't know how the start of the 9th gen would go. We're not likely going to see 9th gen PS/Xbox consoles for several more years. We're still in the 8th gen and I found it weird how Nintendo decided to release the Switch in the middle of the 8th gen, making the Switch their 2nd 8th gen console (after the Wii U).

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/07/17 at 2:50 pm

The Persona 5 and NieR Automata reviews akfhoaheodnalbgk

JAPAN is making a comeback and is here to save gaming and deliver quality, and it coincides well America's cultural decline. I'm here for it! No more gun fetishism in gaming!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/07/17 at 3:09 pm


But we still don't know how the start of the 9th gen would go. We're not likely going to see 9th gen PS/Xbox consoles for several more years. We're still in the 8th gen and I found it weird how Nintendo decided to release the Switch in the middle of the 8th gen, making the Switch their 2nd 8th gen console (after the Wii U).


Now we're in the 9th gen. There is no such thing as a 2nd 8th gen console as you can't have two different consoles from the same brand exist in the same generation unless it's just an updated version of an already existing console. But the Switch is very different from the Wii U in terms of it's software and hardware. A gen starting really early is nothing new. This happened with the 5th gen. The 5th gen started in 1993 with the release of the 3DO, but we all know that during that year the Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis were in their peak in popularity. Same for the Dreamcast being released in 1998 (which started the 6th gen) which is when the N64 and PS1 were in peak popularity.

History doesn't repeat itself. Rather it rhymes. The beginning may be a bit different, but they always end the same way. This is probably an exaggeration, but the 3DO and the Dreamcast both started new consoles gens WAY TOO SOON. And it's funny that by the end of the console gen no one speaks of them as they failed before all of big consoles of their respective gens could release. The 3DO ended in 1996 which is after the PS1 came out and the N64 coming within a few months. The Dreamcast ended in 2001 after the PS2 came out and the NGC/XB coming within a few months. They started 3 years before all of the competition could release and died 3 years into the peak popularity of the generation.  Hopefully the Switch doesn't go down this route. I don't expect another Xbox or Playstation console until 2019/2020 to be honest. We'll see.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/07/17 at 3:19 pm


Now we're in the 9th gen. There is no such thing as a 2nd 8th gen console as you can't have two different consoles from the same brand exist in the same generation unless it's just an updated version of an already existing console. But the Switch is very different from the Wii U in terms of it's software and hardware. A gen starting really early is nothing new. This happened with the 5th gen. The 5th gen started in 1993 with the release of the 3DO, but we all know that during that year the Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis were in their peak in popularity. Same for the Dreamcast being released in 1998 (which started the 6th gen) which is when the N64 and PS1 were in peak popularity.

History doesn't repeat itself. Rather it rhymes. The beginning may be a bit different, but they always end the same way. This is probably an exaggeration, but the 3DO and the Dreamcast both started new consoles gens WAY TOO SOON. And it's funny that by the end of the console gen no one speaks of them as they failed before all of big consoles of their respective gens could release. The 3DO ended in 1996 which is after the PS1 came out and the N64 coming within a few months. The Dreamcast ended in 2001 after the PS2 came out and the NGC/XB coming within a few months. They started 3 years before all of the competition could release and died 3 years into the peak popularity of the generation.  Hopefully the Switch doesn't go down this route. I don't expect another Xbox or Playstation console until 2019/2020 to be honest. We'll see.


There was also the PC-engine/TurboGrafx-16 in 1987/1989. It did well in Japan but not so well in the West.

The 3DO failed because the console was almost $1000 in today's money, I don't think the Switch is comparable.

The Switch is very comparable to the Dreamcast though. Both launched after their predecessors flopped hard and had their lifecycle cut short leaving many angry and dissatisfied customers. They both also debuted with revolutionary and critically acclaimed games, Zelda for the Switch and Soulcalibur for the Dreamcast. The parallels are interesting :o

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/07/17 at 3:31 pm


The Persona 5 and NieR Automata reviews akfhoaheodnalbgk

JAPAN is making a comeback and is here to save gaming and deliver quality, and it coincides well America's cultural decline. I'm here for it! No more gun fetishism in gaming!


Easy there, Poke! Remember that reviews don't mean much in the end. It all comes down to popularity. Sure these games may be well received and may even have some success, but as long as the next couple of shooters keeps hitting the millions again and again and again I don't think the gun popularity will end. And as for America's cultural decline......,err, what?! As for Japan making a comeback the thing is that they never really declined. They just kinda changed a bit. The reason Japan lost in terms of popularity in gaming was because of two things. #1 being that consoles are no longer popular in Japan (last major selling console was the PS2 in terms of Japanese sells) and #2 being that they're largely seen as a few steps behind the western side of the industry. Two things that I don't see changing when looking at current trends in both America and Japan. However, if you love Handheld gaming than Japan shines there.

However, as the 9th gen progress I'm curious on the state of Handheld gaming. I doubt Sony will make another handheld. And the Switch is basically a  portable handheld/console hybrid. We won't have any true dedicated gaming handhelds in the 9th gen. The 3DS is still around yet I'm curious on if it'll have a successor or not. Some say no, but we'll see. In Japan mobile gaming now dominates and soon the west will be in the same situation (assuming it already isn't).


I swear I literally just exist to rain on everyone's parade.  ::)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/07/17 at 3:36 pm


There was also the PC-engine/TurboGrafx-16 in 1987/1989. It did well in Japan but not so well in the West.

The 3DO failed because the console was almost $1000 in today's money, I don't think the Switch is comparable.

The Switch is very comparable to the Dreamcast though. Both launched after their predecessors flopped hard and had their lifecycle cut short leaving many angry and dissatisfied customers. They both also debuted with revolutionary and critically acclaimed games, Zelda for the Switch and Soulcalibur for the Dreamcast. The parallels are interesting :o


The Parallels are too close. Dreamcast had Sonic Adventure which starred Sega's Mascot being in a more realistic world and visiting different levels. Mario's Odyssy stars Nintendo's Mascot being a more realistic world and visiting different levels. Splatoon reminds everyone of Jet Set Radio. Zelda Breath of the Wild is an Open World game which is similar to Shenmue which is seen as starting the 3D Open World craze (or being one of the starters). These connections are quite interesting.

Just hope the Switch won't kill off Nintendo or put them in a bad situation.  :(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/07/17 at 3:44 pm


The Parallels are too close. Dreamcast had Sonic Adventure which starred Sega's Mascot being in a more realistic world and visiting different levels. Mario's Odyssy stars Nintendo's Mascot being a more realistic world and visiting different levels. Splatoon reminds everyone of Jet Set Radio. Zelda Breath of the Wild is an Open World game which is similar to Shenmue which is seen as starting the 3D Open World craze (or being one of the starters). These connections are quite interesting.

Just hope the Switch won't kill off Nintendo or put them in a bad situation.  :(


I'm not sure if the Switch would do great, since Nintendo's decision on the Switch being a handheld hybrid seems unorthodox to the rest of the gaming community. It also wouldn't give that much opportunities, since Nintendo's fanbase is isolated compared to Microsoft and Sony's. At least with what their competitors are doing, they could easily play their games with discs while having no problem with developers. Having game cards as their main source of media seems like the N64 days for developers, where they switched to Sony for cheaper jobs.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/07/17 at 4:16 pm


I'm not sure if the Switch would do great, since Nintendo's decision on the Switch being a handheld hybrid seems unorthodox to the rest of the gaming community. It also wouldn't give that much opportunities, since Nintendo's fanbase is isolated compared to Microsoft and Sony's. At least with what their competitors are doing, they could easily play their games with discs while having no problem with developers. Having game cards as their main source of media seems like the N64 days for developers, where they switched to Sony for cheaper jobs.



  At the moment I can't really give an idea on how the Switch will perform. The problem isn't so much the Switch itself, but rather the Switch in relation to the other consoles. When looking at the Switch on its own it's a decent console, but when compared to the XB1 and PS4 it may struggle a bit in terms of audience. Some gamers are bothered by the Switch's hardware. The hardware of the Nintendo Switch is actually slightly weaker than the PS4 slim and the Xbox one S. Meaning a 9th gen console is weaker than 8th gen consoles. This isn't mentioned how the Switch would compare to the PS4 Pro and XB1 Scorpio. The Switch is weaker than the PS4 Slim and XB1 S. These consoles are just minor updates to the original versions. The PS4 Pro and XB1 Scorpio are big leaps in terms of updates. They're not 9th gen consoles like the Switch, but rather 8.5 gen consoles. So in terms of power the Switch is lacking. However, I'm sure Nintendo can overcome this as they were able to do this before.

But In a lot of articles comparing the NS to the PS4 and XB1 the final verdict usually ends up with the writer saying that while the Switch will appeal to hard-core Nintendo fans to the rest of the gamers may be slightly disapointed with the console.

I'm not a Nintendo Switch hater as I'm just stating what is being said over the internet. I do want the Nintendo Switch as I NEED to play Mario Odyssy and Zelda BoW. And I'm glad Nintendo is going back to targeting hardcore fans again. There current and future lineups seem to favor hardcore fans which is great. Hell, we MIGHT even get a new Star Fox (I love Star Fox).  8)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/07/17 at 8:08 pm

Those Switch first week sales! We did it! Congrats Nintendo! 👏👏👏👏👏

I hope this carries on.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/07/17 at 8:15 pm


Easy there, Poke! Remember that reviews don't mean much in the end. It all comes down to popularity. Sure these games may be well received and may even have some success, but as long as the next couple of shooters keeps hitting the millions again and again and again I don't think the gun popularity will end. And as for America's cultural decline......,err, what?! As for Japan making a comeback the thing is that they never really declined.


That's true  :\'( People buy junk, they get junk. We have to start shaming our friends for buying Call of Doody. Friends don't let friends play shooters.


They just kinda changed a bit. The reason Japan lost in terms of popularity in gaming was because of two things. #1 being that consoles are no longer popular in Japan (last major selling console was the PS2 in terms of Japanese sells) and #2 being that they're largely seen as a few steps behind the western side of the industry. Two things that I don't see changing when looking at current trends in both America and Japan. However, if you love Handheld gaming than Japan shines there.


Handheld gaming has been declining too though. The DS sold 30 million in Japan. Only 20 million for the 3DS so far. Vita dropped to something like 4 million after the PSP's 20 million.


However, as the 9th gen progress I'm curious on the state of Handheld gaming. I doubt Sony will make another handheld. And the Switch is basically a  portable handheld/console hybrid. We won't have any true dedicated gaming handhelds in the 9th gen. The 3DS is still around yet I'm curious on if it'll have a successor or not. Some say no, but we'll see. In Japan mobile gaming now dominates and soon the west will be in the same situation (assuming it already isn't).


I swear I literally just exist to rain on everyone's parade.  ::)


Yep, the Switch replaces the 3DS in my eyes. In a way, Nintendo really did exit the console industry. They're the only portable gaming company left, so they set the standard in that sphere. The console sphere though, in a way it doesn't feel like they're directly competing with PS4.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/07/17 at 8:23 pm




That's true  :\'( People buy junk, they get junk. We have to start shaming our friends for buying Call of Doody. Friends don't let friends play shooters.


Handheld gaming has been declining too though. The DS sold 30 million in Japan. Only 20 million for the 3DS so far. Vita dropped to something like 4 million after the PSP's 20 million.

Yep, the Switch replaces the 3DS in my eyes. In a way, Nintendo really did exit the console industry. They're the only portable gaming company left, so they set the standard in that sphere. The console sphere though, in a way it doesn't feel like they're directly competing with PS4.


I already shame my friends for playing CoD. Hopefully SOMETHING will happen in the game industry which will push other genres into popularity again. But for now I'm just gonna have to stick with Indie Steam games.

Yeah, handhelds have been declining, too.  :\'( The DS is the 2nd highest selling platform with 140+ million yet only 30 Million came from Japan. The 3DS is never gonna reach the DS. And the Vita is pretty much dead at this point. The last time Handheld gaming was still big in Japan was the mid-late 2000s with the PSP/DS. Now it's all mobile gaming and Arcade gaming in japan. Console and handheld is about to die completely.

The Switch also replaces the 3DS for me. The Switch doesn't seem to be challenging the PS4/XB1. It's mainly doing its own thing at this point. Being portable and trying to move away. Since the Switch is portable Nintendo pretty much left the console war and is now just focusing mainly on handheld at this point. Now I'm already curious on the 10th console gen for Nintendo.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/07/17 at 8:54 pm


Yeah, handhelds have been declining, too.  :\'( The DS is the 2nd highest selling platform with 140+ million yet only 30 Million came from Japan. The 3DS is never gonna reach the DS. And the Vita is pretty much dead at this point. The last time Handheld gaming was still big in Japan was the mid-late 2000s with the PSP/DS. Now it's all mobile gaming and Arcade gaming in japan. Console and handheld is about to die completely.


Honestly, the handheld market hasn't been that well since the 3DS was released. It was possible that the 3DS was a moderate success, but not as much as the DS. I have more games for the DS than the 3DS, which rather shows that their games were more popular than for its 3D model. With the DS, it was revolutionary to play with two screens at once, since they didn't have that prior to 2004. It also seemed cool to have GBA backward compatibility, before they had the DSi.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/07/17 at 10:13 pm


Honestly, the handheld market hasn't been that well since the 3DS was released. It was possible that the 3DS was a moderate success, but not as much as the DS. I have more games for the DS than the 3DS, which rather shows that their games were more popular than for its 3D model. With the DS, it was revolutionary to play with two screens at once, since they didn't have that prior to 2004. It also seemed cool to have GBA backward compatibility, before they had the DSi.


Despite saying the 3DS as being successful I don't buy it. Sure it isn't a failure by any means, but it hasn't even sold half of what the DS did yet. It'll have to reach 80 Million to do that. For handheld gaming 1989-2011 was the peak in performance.  The DS is the 2nd best selling gaming device (behind the PS2) so for the 3DS to not even come close is a bit saddening.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/07/17 at 10:17 pm

The 3DS is a solid system imo. Best system of the 8th Gen, not that there was much competition  :-X

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/07/17 at 10:51 pm


The 3DS is a solid system imo. Best system of the 8th Gen, not that there was much competition  :-X


I love the 3DS. I include it along with the N64, NGC, and GBA as my favorite Nintendo consoles. When comparing it to the rest of the 8th gen I think the 3DS is the best. WiiU is a bit lacking, PS4/XB1 are just shooter after shooter along with your occasional "trying-to-hard-to-be-realistic" game. 3DS had all that I like from Nintendo.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/08/17 at 5:59 am


Despite saying the 3DS as being successful I don't buy it. Sure it isn't a failure by any means, but it hasn't even sold half of what the DS did yet. It'll have to reach 80 Million to do that. For handheld gaming 1989-2011 was the peak in performance.  The DS is the 2nd best selling gaming device (behind the PS2) so for the 3DS to not even come close is a bit saddening.


The 3DS was rather unoriginal compared to its predecessor. Of course it wouldn't sell that much units. The DS was the only time I ever became a hardcore Nintendo gamer, despite being into the more older games (as in from 1989-2001) when I found out about emulators as a kid.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: spf180 on 03/08/17 at 7:27 pm

Since we are talking about vidja gaem systems, I care to comment that I'm just plain frustrated because one hand, there is the glorious Breath of the Wild for the switch and there is also on other hand the beautiful Horizon: Zero Dawn on Playstation 4. I'm frustrated because its like nearly a grand if I want both systems with both games, so I'm going to have only get one. Downside of Switch does not have VC at this time nor since it just launched, barely any games. Downside of the PS4 is there is no way to play the Jak games from the PS2 era. Side note: Gaming is more interesting to me now in the late then it was in early-mid 2010s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/09/17 at 5:34 pm


Since we are talking about vidja gaem systems, I care to comment that I'm just plain frustrated because one hand, there is the glorious Breath of the Wild for the switch and there is also on other hand the beautiful Horizon: Zero Dawn on Playstation 4. I'm frustrated because its like nearly a grand if I want both systems with both games, so I'm going to have only get one. Downside of Switch does not have VC at this time nor since it just launched, barely any games. Downside of the PS4 is there is no way to play the Jak games from the PS2 era. Side note: Gaming is more interesting to me now in the late then it was in early-mid 2010s.


As of 2017 it seems we're getting a lot of high quality games. To me the 2010s has been very meh with games. Late 2010s may change that.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/11/17 at 3:46 pm

Persona 5 got its first Western review and it's a 10/10 from Official Playstation Magazine UK.

2017 in gaming hnghhh, it could easily be the best gaming year in the decade!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/11/17 at 4:02 pm


As of 2017 it seems we're getting a lot of high quality games. To me the 2010s has been very meh with games. Late 2010s may change that.


Don't tell me, even video games are past their quality peak too.  ::)
Another victim of the post-2000 era!  :P

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/11/17 at 4:38 pm


Don't tell me, even video games are past their quality peak too.  ::)
Another victim of the post-2000 era!  :P


I think the peak of gaming was 2012. Not that it was the best year in gaming (that would be 1998!), but it was still a great year in gaming. After that, I didn't care, LOL.

I still played a couple of games in 2013/2014, but not as much. 2015/2016 – NOTHING, except Pokémon GO and Pokémon Moon (and Smash U whenever I go to my friend's house)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/11/17 at 6:03 pm


Don't tell me, even video games are past their quality peak too.  ::)
Another victim of the post-2000 era!  :P


I've never said anything like that.  ??? As for being a "victim of the post-2000 era" there are many games post-2000 that I consider to be some of the best (in fact I consider a lot of games Post-2000 to be better than a lot of pre-2000 games) . All I was getting at was that during the early-mid 2010s video games were disappointing to me. They were nothing but shooters, moba, and sports/racers. Genres I don't care for.  They weren't past there peak quality as they were still getting praise and rewards. There is no such thing as "past peak quality" as this idea is largely influenced by biased nostalgia that old fogies won't admit.


Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/11/17 at 6:25 pm


Don't tell me, even video games are past their quality peak too.  ::)
Another victim of the post-2000 era!  :P


Ehh... the 2000s had a lot of gaming masterpieces.  :P

I don't know if I could take that seriously or not, since video games weren't "past their quality peak".

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/11/17 at 7:11 pm


Ehh... the 2000s had a lot of gaming masterpieces.  :P

I don't know if I could take that seriously or not, since video games weren't "past their quality peak".


In the 2000s, I always looked back to the 1990s for being so much better, but now that we've lived through the horror that was the mid-2010s, I recognize the 2000s as an important and great decade for gaming. ;D

2000, 2001, 2004, 2007, 2009, those were hot years!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/11/17 at 7:29 pm


I've never said anything like that.  ??? As for being a "victim of the post-2000 era" there are many games post-2000 that I consider to be some of the best (in fact I consider a lot of games Post-2000 to be better than a lot of pre-2000 games) . All I was getting at was that during the early-mid 2010s video games were disappointing to me. They were nothing but shooters, moba, and sports/racers. Genres I don't care for.  They weren't past there peak quality as they were still getting praise and rewards. There is no such thing as "past peak quality" as this idea is largely influenced by biased nostalgia that old fogies won't admit.


Thank you, Looney Toon.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/11/17 at 7:34 pm


Ehh... the 2000s had a lot of gaming masterpieces.  :P

I don't know if I could take that seriously or not, since video games weren't "past their quality peak".


Probably just a phase. Also, depends on a person's tastes.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/11/17 at 7:35 pm


In the 2000s, I always looked back to the 1990s for being so much better, but now that we've lived through the horror that was the mid-2010s, I recognize the 2000s as an important and great decade for gaming. ;D

2000, 2001, 2004, 2007, 2009, those were hot years!


;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 03/11/17 at 9:14 pm


Don't tell me, even video games are past their quality peak too.  ::)
Another victim of the post-2000 era! :P


More like post-2005/2006ish era. 2000-2001 was still mostly in the 5th generation, and 2002-2005/early 2006 was still great with the 6th generation. The only video game series that I feel is still going is Kingdom Hearts series.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 03/11/17 at 9:20 pm


I've never said anything like that.  ??? As for being a "victim of the post-2000 era" there are many games post-2000 that I consider to be some of the best (in fact I consider a lot of games Post-2000 to be better than a lot of pre-2000 games) . All I was getting at was that during the early-mid 2010s video games were disappointing to me. They were nothing but shooters, moba, and sports/racers. Genres I don't care for.  They weren't past there peak quality as they were still getting praise and rewards. There is no such thing as "past peak quality" as this idea is largely influenced by biased nostalgia that old fogies won't admit.


Not to mention that gaming didn't automatically change once 2000 started  ;).

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/11/17 at 11:38 pm


More like post-2005/2006ish era. 2000-2001 was still mostly in the 5th generation, and 2002-2005/early 2006 was still great with the 6th generation. The only video game series that I feel is still going is Kingdom Hearts series.

Gaming went downhill in precisely November 2006.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/12/17 at 1:05 am


More like post-2005/2006ish era. 2000-2001 was still mostly in the 5th generation, and 2002-2005/early 2006 was still great with the 6th generation. The only video game series that I feel is still going is Kingdom Hearts series.


Cool.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/12/17 at 1:09 am

Gaming may have not went down precisely in 2000, but it still went down after 2000, just being more precise here.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/12/17 at 1:16 am


Gaming may have not went down precisely in 2000, but it still went down after 2000, just being more precise here.

Nah m8y. 2000 to mid 2006 was a still fantastic time for games. In fact 2004 was one of gaming's all-time best years.

The downfall of gaming can be pinpointed to one specific month - and that month is November 2006.
https://img.fireden.net/v/image/1452/30/1452307892126.jpg

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/12/17 at 1:20 am


Nah m8y. 2000 to mid 2006 was a still fantastic time for games. In fact 2004 was one of gaming's all-time best years.

The downfall of gaming can be pinpointed to one specific month - and that month is November 2006.
https://img.fireden.net/v/image/1452/30/1452307892126.jpg


I turned 18 that month/year!  ;D Karma!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/12/17 at 7:31 am


Not to mention that gaming didn't automatically change once 2000 started  ;).


Yeah, gaming for the most part was similar in trends during the early 2000s (and maybe the mid 2000s) when compared to the late 1990s. What I love about 2000-2005/6 was that there was no real set of genres that were taking over. Shooters were getting big, but the only console where they were kinda taking over was the Xbox and even that had a nice bit of variety. The PS2 has over 2400 games and when people look back on their favorite games I always notice how they mention so many different kinds of games. Gamecube and the Gameboy advance also had a nice variety. Same for the Dreamcast.


More like post-2005/2006ish era. 2000-2001 was still mostly in the 5th generation, and 2002-2005/early 2006 was still great with the 6th generation. The only video game series that I feel is still going is Kingdom Hearts series.


Yeah, the peak 6th gen isn't until 2002-2006ish as this was when all the consoles for the 6th gen had released. Between 2000-2001 we only had the Dreamcast and the Playstation 2. We were still waiting on 3 other 6th gen consoles and it was still fairly common for someone by a 5th gen console in 2000-2001 than it was to buy a 6th gen console.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/12/17 at 7:36 am


Nah m8y. 2000 to mid 2006 was a still fantastic time for games. In fact 2004 was one of gaming's all-time best years.

The downfall of gaming can be pinpointed to one specific month - and that month is November 2006.
https://img.fireden.net/v/image/1452/30/1452307892126.jpg


Late 2006 to ~2013 would be the 7th gen. And as much as I enjoyed the Wii and DS I was disappointed. Also didn't like that the 8th gen is just 7th gen part 2. It's been around 10 years since we began the peak of the 7th gen and gaming for the most part has stayed the same in the late 2010s. Now I wouldn't mind this gen so much if it wasn't ruled by gimmicks (motion controls), shooters, mobas, and sports/racers. But with all that sad I do agree with some who say that the late 2000s was a good era for gaming. Even if I didn't like a lot of the games I've noticed that there were a lot of critically acclaimed games released during that time.

2000s overall was decent. Early, mid, and late parts all had a ton of good games. It's mostly the 2010s I can't seem to find much enjoyment out of. But I do like how this decade is a golden age for indie games. So I'd be lying if I said that there are no fun games during this decade.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/12/17 at 8:25 am


Gaming went downhill in precisely November 2006.


Are you saying Sonic 06 ruined the video game industry? Because it only ruined the Sonic franchise and Sega's reputation.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/12/17 at 8:38 am


Are you saying Sonic 06 ruined the video game industry? Because it only ruined the Sonic franchise and Sega's reputation.


Sonic 06 was infamous, but I don't think it had a game industry changing effect. I think Zelek was referring to the start of the 7th gen. Both the the Wii and the PS3 released in North America in November of 2006. With the PS3/Wii/X360 all being released on the market the 7th gen had now reached its peak.

I've mentioned how I can't stand the 8th gen, but the problems of the 8th gen were started in the 7th gen. So I can see how late 2006 marked a downfall. But at the same time the early 7th gen started a bit strong between 2007-2009/2010.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/12/17 at 9:20 am


Sonic 06 was infamous, but I don't think it had a game industry changing effect.


Well yeah, that's why I said that in the first place. Nobody really cared about Sonic back in 2006, since the Sonic Advance trilogy was the last good games for the franchise. Everybody who liked Sonic was either a weirdo or some sort of lost cause. Gamers back then were into either the Wii and PS3's launches, the PSP, the DS, or even the Xbox 360.

I think Zelek was referring to the start of the 7th gen. Both the the Wii and the PS3 released in North America in November of 2006. With the PS3/Wii/X360 all being released on the market the 7th gen had now reached its peak.

It's probably a coincidence for me, since Zelek sometimes talk about how Sonic '06 was a failure to Sega. Even though he thinks Shadow the Hedgehog (the game) was when the Sonic franchise turned for the worst.


I've mentioned how I can't stand the 8th gen, but the problems of the 8th gen were started in the 7th gen. So I can see how late 2006 marked a downfall. But at the same time the early 7th gen started a bit strong between 2007-2009/2010.


I think it was a downfall for Nintendo, since they relied on the Wii so much they named their 8th gen as the "Wii U". Sony and Microsoft were still decent by the 8th gen, even though they were the only serious competitors in the 8th gen.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/12/17 at 11:21 am

Bye. 2007 was a great year in gaming. No one cares about the PS3, that's like saying 2005 was a bad year in gaming because PSP came out. PS2 was still going strong in late 2006/2007: Persona 3, Okami, God Hand, Odin Sphere (and God of War 2 for the casuals). Enough said. Twilight Princess, Wii Sports and Gears of War alone saved gaming. ALL FACTS.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/12/17 at 12:47 pm


Are you saying Sonic 06 ruined the video game industry? Because it only ruined the Sonic franchise and Sega's reputation.

I'm talking about the PS3 and Wii, not Sonic 06.

By 2005, Sonic's reputation was already in the toilet due to Shadow the Hedgehog. Sonic 06 was just a compounding of the flaws of the previous 3D games, all having built up into one totally unfun mess.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/12/17 at 1:01 pm


I'm talking about the PS3 and Wii, not Sonic 06.

By 2005, Sonic's reputation was already in the toilet due to Shadow the Hedgehog. Sonic 06 was just a compounding of the flaws of the previous 3D games, all having built up into one totally unfun mess.


I wouldn't really mind that since Sonic Advance 3 was the last good game that the franchise ever had. It was also one of the last decent games that Sega ever produced. Their heyday was in the early-mid 90s, when the Sega Genesis was alive and running.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/12/17 at 2:12 pm


I wouldn't really mind that since Sonic Advance 3 was the last good game that the franchise ever had. It was also one of the last decent games that Sega ever produced. Their heyday was in the early-mid 90s, when the Sega Genesis was alive and running.


The Sonic Rush games were good too.

They should just give up 3D Sonic tbh. The Adventure games were a product of their time. Playing games like that in 2017 (or even past 2002) is/was never going to be satisfying.

To be honest 90% of the reason I liked Sonic Adventure 2 and the Advanced series so much was because of the Chao garden lmao.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 03/12/17 at 3:12 pm


Nah m8y. 2000 to mid 2006 was a still fantastic time for games. In fact 2004 was one of gaming's all-time best years.

The downfall of gaming can be pinpointed to one specific month - and that month is November 2006.
https://img.fireden.net/v/image/1452/30/1452307892126.jpg



Was this the release date for The Playstation 3? ???

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/12/17 at 3:18 pm


They should just give up 3D Sonic tbh. The Adventure games were a product of their time. Playing games like that in 2017 (or even past 2002) is/was never going to be satisfying.


Honestly, none of the 3D Sonic games were ever good. Not even Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 could do better. Sure, it seemed better than Sonic '06, but it wasn't a classic compared to the original Sonic trilogy.


To be honest 90% of the reason I liked Sonic Adventure 2 and the Advanced series so much was because of the Chao garden lmao.


The Chaos were the only thing keeping Sonic alive during the early-mid 2000s. Almost everything related to Sonic between 2001-2005 had Chaos in it.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/12/17 at 5:00 pm

Here we go again with the "Sonic should just die" or the " hasn't aged well or was ever good". First off Sonic's issue isn't being in 3D. This is a poorly spreaded misconception. There was never any direct proof of Sonic's issue being 3D gameplay. The Adventures games have aged, but then again a lot of franchises early 3D games age poorly (Ocarina of Time and Super Mario 64 have been blown out of the water by Super Mario Galaxy/Mario Odyssey and Zelda Breath of Wild at this point). Almost all late 90s/early 00s games are products of their time. Devil May Cry 1 aged poorly when compared to Bayonetta 2. Super Smash Bros 64 aged poorly when compared to Melee or Smash 4.Golden Eye aged poorly when compared to literally any modern shooter. The "it has aged poorly argument" isn't something that is unique to Sonic as another Adventure style game would do just fine in today's industry. Just update it. The reason Sonic's games have been doing bad is due to rushed deadlines which in turn effects a lot of other aspects of game development. Doesn't matter how well a game is designed if it is rushed it'll perform badly. The fact that the games were 3D is just coincidence all games are 3D at this point. Sega has been known to rush EVERY Sonic game. With Sonic 2017 this is a different case as Sonic Team has been working on the game for the past 3 years now. No more rushed deadlines which means they have enough time to do what they think works best without worrying about release dates.

And before anyone brings up 06 or Boom Rise of Lyric these two are very extreme cases which had a number of things wrong with them (including being rushed). As for every other Sonic game they've all had a deadline of around 1.5 years which means they are rushed. Modern games need a much longer time than that (usually 2.5 to 3 years).

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/12/17 at 5:08 pm

On a less triggered note here is a cool image.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6p-oRrWYAAk_Cd.jpg:large

Did ya know that Horizon, Zelda, and Ghost Recon images match together extremely well? Confirmed that they take place in the same universe. Just in different timelines.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/12/17 at 5:18 pm


Here we go again with the "Sonic should just die" or the " hasn't aged well or was ever good". First off Sonic's issue isn't being in 3D. This is a poorly spreaded misconception. There was never any direct proof of Sonic's issue being 3D gameplay. The Adventures games have aged, but then again a lot of franchises early 3D games age poorly (Ocarina of Time and Super Mario 64 have been blown out of the water by Super Mario Galaxy/Mario Odyssey and Zelda Breath of Wild at this point). Almost all late 90s/early 00s games are products of their time. Devil May Cry 1 aged poorly when compared to Bayonetta 2. Super Smash Bros 64 aged poorly when compared to Melee or Smash 4. Golden Eye aged poorly when compared to literally any modern shooter. The "it has aged poorly argument" isn't something that is unique to Sonic as another Adventure style game would do just fine in today's industry. Just update it. The reason Sonic's games have been doing bad is due to rushed deadlines which in turn effects a lot of other aspects of game development. Doesn't matter how well a game is designed if it is rushed it'll perform badly. The fact that the games were 3D is just coincidence all games are 3D at this point. Sega has been known to rush EVERY Sonic game. With Sonic 2017 this is a different case as Sonic Team has been working on the game for the past 3 years now. No more rushed deadlines which means they have enough time to do what they think works best without worrying about release dates.


Honestly, I don't care of how much Sonic keeps making bad games for the past 10 years. I kept ignoring the modern games, since I know they'll just be bad at the start. I'm not sure about Sonic Mania, since it doesn't seem rushed compared to a lot of modern Sonic games. But I don't know what else to say, since I only played the original Sonic trilogy and the Sonic Advance trilogy. I was only into the purely 2D games, as they had more style with themselves. Hence why I focus more on the Sega Genesis, since I think they had a better impact on the company than just Sonic.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: SpyroKev on 03/12/17 at 5:46 pm


Here we go again with the "Sonic should just die" or the " hasn't aged well or was ever good". First off Sonic's issue isn't being in 3D. This is a poorly spreaded misconception. There was never any direct proof of Sonic's issue being 3D gameplay. The Adventures games have aged, but then again a lot of franchises early 3D games age poorly (Ocarina of Time and Super Mario 64 have been blown out of the water by Super Mario Galaxy/Mario Odyssey and Zelda Breath of Wild at this point). Almost all late 90s/early 00s games are products of their time. Devil May Cry 1 aged poorly when compared to Bayonetta 2. Super Smash Bros 64 aged poorly when compared to Melee or Smash 4.Golden Eye aged poorly when compared to literally any modern shooter. The "it has aged poorly argument" isn't something that is unique to Sonic as another Adventure style game would do just fine in today's industry. Just update it. The reason Sonic's games have been doing bad is due to rushed deadlines which in turn effects a lot of other aspects of game development. Doesn't matter how well a game is designed if it is rushed it'll perform badly. The fact that the games were 3D is just coincidence all games are 3D at this point. Sega has been known to rush EVERY Sonic game. With Sonic 2017 this is a different case as Sonic Team has been working on the game for the past 3 years now. No more rushed deadlines which means they have enough time to do what they think works best without worrying about release dates.

And before anyone brings up 06 or Boom Rise of Lyric these two are very extreme cases which had a number of things wrong with them (including being rushed). As for every other Sonic game they've all had a deadline of around 1.5 years which means they are rushed. Modern games need a much longer time than that (usually 2.5 to 3 years).


Its sad but its really, Sonic is passed his peak. How can I word this, the characters within the series look.. dated and are.. blandish and the fan base kind of took away their original attend. Many Sonic characters have this "Typical cool guy" vibe especially Shadow, who's the perfect example of a try hard and Vegeta rip off.

Sonic has enough timelessness that lets him pass the barrier, but for Tails, Robotnik and Knuckles, they scream the 90s. Its bad to where, listening to them speak is, you don't want to hear it. The characters were actually done justice in Sonic Boom, but it just wasn't enough. Mega Man suffers with this to. He's passed his peak.

You can create a series with lasting characters all you want, but it takes a phenomenon to truly pull it off.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/13/17 at 9:08 am


Here we go again with the "Sonic should just die" or the " hasn't aged well or was ever good". First off Sonic's issue isn't being in 3D. This is a poorly spreaded misconception. There was never any direct proof of Sonic's issue being 3D gameplay. The Adventures games have aged, but then again a lot of franchises early 3D games age poorly (Ocarina of Time and Super Mario 64 have been blown out of the water by Super Mario Galaxy/Mario Odyssey and Zelda Breath of Wild at this point). Almost all late 90s/early 00s games are products of their time. Devil May Cry 1 aged poorly when compared to Bayonetta 2. Super Smash Bros 64 aged poorly when compared to Melee or Smash 4.Golden Eye aged poorly when compared to literally any modern shooter. The "it has aged poorly argument" isn't something that is unique to Sonic as another Adventure style game would do just fine in today's industry. Just update it. The reason Sonic's games have been doing bad is due to rushed deadlines which in turn effects a lot of other aspects of game development. Doesn't matter how well a game is designed if it is rushed it'll perform badly. The fact that the games were 3D is just coincidence all games are 3D at this point. Sega has been known to rush EVERY Sonic game. With Sonic 2017 this is a different case as Sonic Team has been working on the game for the past 3 years now. No more rushed deadlines which means they have enough time to do what they think works best without worrying about release dates.

And before anyone brings up 06 or Boom Rise of Lyric these two are very extreme cases which had a number of things wrong with them (including being rushed). As for every other Sonic game they've all had a deadline of around 1.5 years which means they are rushed. Modern games need a much longer time than that (usually 2.5 to 3 years).


Well, I'm not saying it aged per se, just that it was a product of its time. Hmm, probably the same thing, but... nuance! If the Adventure games came out today, I don't think they'd be well received, and SEGA seems to have a difficult time improving on it.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/13/17 at 9:51 am


Well, I'm not saying it aged per se, just that it was a product of its time. Hmm, probably the same thing, but... nuance! If the Adventure games came out today, I don't think they'd be well received, and SEGA seems to have a difficult time improving on it.



If the Adventure Games were released today I can see them not being well recieved. Although this can apply to a lot of games. For the Xbox 360 they re--released Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie, but they weren't recieved as well due to the industry changing. An Adventure game could, but they'd have to update the gameplay to work in the 8th/9th gen. As for Sega having a difficult time improving on the Adventure style I'm a bit confused. For the longest of time they've never really gone back to the Adventure style. In fact that is what people didn't like about Sonic Team/Sega. Instead of sticking to a gameplay style and improving it they would just keep on changing into more experimental design choices.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 03/13/17 at 10:22 am

I think the fact of the matter is Sonic and its style of gameplay never transitioned well into the 3D era.  This problem goes all the way back to Sonic 3D Blast for Sega Genesis.  That's not even considering the fact that the Sonic character itself is a product of the early '90s.  He was a "cool" alternative to Mario and that was great in the 90s, but what was "cool" then isn't in 2017.  Mario is a more timeless character and did a much better job at crossing over the barrier into the 3D era and has remained relevant to this day.

I think the only Sonic games that still have potential are 2D side-scrollers like the classics.  A modern, 3D Sonic game just isn't going to work.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: SpyroKev on 03/13/17 at 11:14 am


I think the fact of the matter is Sonic and its style of gameplay never transitioned well into the 3D era.  This problem goes all the way back to Sonic 3D Blast for Sega Genesis.  That's not even considering the fact that the Sonic character itself is a product of the early '90s.  He was a "cool" alternative to Mario and that was great in the 90s, but what was "cool" then isn't in 2017.  Mario is a more timeless character and did a much better job at crossing over the barrier into the 3D era and has remained relevant to this day.

I think the only Sonic games that still have potential are 2D side-scrollers like the classics.  A modern, 3D Sonic game just isn't going to work.


The only way Sonic can remain consistent is through the Olympic Games series.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/13/17 at 11:43 am

The outdated "cool" attitude of sonic has been heavily downplayed for the past decade or so. Saying the character is outdated because he's too early 90s in style is a false argument as they changed Sonic's image for a while now. He has that upbeat vibe to him, but that's about it. He doesn't go around saying "gotta juice" or "wicked" like he did back in the early 90s.  Sonic in the latest games is nothing like the classic Sonic games. Have you guys even played them?

And I'm gonna leave the Sonic not working in 3D arguement alone. Especially since no one can give actual details as to WHY his gameplay can't work in 3D. They either use outdated examples or blame the franchises failures on the wrong things. Now I'm not one to quickly defend the sonic franchise as I'm not the biggest Sonic fan (I like the series, but there are other franchises I love more), but I keep hearing the same arguments repeated again and again without any actual backings. Just people repeating what others have mentioned. But enough of this.


The only way Sonic can remain consistent is through the Olympic Games series.


Not gonna lie this had me laughing. :D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 03/13/17 at 12:15 pm



And I'm gonna leave the Sonic not working in 3D arguement alone. Especially since no one can give actual details as to WHY his gameplay can't work in 3D. They either use outdated examples or blame the franchises failures on the wrong things. Now I'm not one to quickly defend the sonic franchise as I'm not the biggest Sonic fan (I like the series, but there are other franchises I love more), but I keep hearing the same arguments repeated again and again without any actual backings. Just people repeating what others have mentioned. But enough of this.


Let me take a stab at it.  The core elements that define a Sonic game...the fast pace, interesting obstacles with loops, jumping puzzles with springs, ring collection, the power-ups, etc work much better in a 2D sidescroller than it does in a 3D sandbox.  That's not to say a 3D Sonic game couldn't work, but I don't think it's been successfully pulled off yet despite all the attempts.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/13/17 at 1:22 pm


The outdated "cool" attitude of sonic has been heavily downplayed for the past decade or so. Saying the character is outdated because he's too early 90s in style is a false argument as they changed Sonic's image for a while now. He has that upbeat vibe to him, but that's about it. He doesn't go around saying "gotta juice" or "wicked" like he did back in the early 90s.  Sonic in the latest games is nothing like the classic Sonic games. Have you guys even played them?

And I'm gonna leave the Sonic not working in 3D arguement alone. Especially since no one can give actual details as to WHY his gameplay can't work in 3D. They either use outdated examples or blame the franchises failures on the wrong things. Now I'm not one to quickly defend the sonic franchise as I'm not the biggest Sonic fan (I like the series, but there are other franchises I love more), but I keep hearing the same arguments repeated again and again without any actual backings. Just people repeating what others have mentioned. But enough of this.

Not gonna lie this had me laughing. :D


I have a cool, edgy, attitude, and it's 'hip' and cutting sharp.  8)  :D  :D  :D  :(  :(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/13/17 at 1:27 pm


Let me take a stab at it.  The core elements that define a Sonic game...the fast pace, interesting obstacles with loops, jumping puzzles with springs, ring collection, the power-ups, etc work much better in a 2D sidescroller than it does in a 3D sandbox.  That's not to say a 3D Sonic game couldn't work, but I don't think it's been successfully pulled off yet despite all the attempts.


I commend you for actually giving some reason. Certainly better than the bad articles you find on IGN or Gamespot where they say that the series can't work in 3D. Now transistioning from 2D to 3D is a bit tricky as you already know. And when Sega came up with the Sonic elements they were thinking from a 2D standpoint. So saying that they can't transistion to 3D perfectly is a reasonable argument. When changing from 2D to 3D some rules will have to be changed up. Take Super Mario 64 for example. It didn't apply the same rules as the 2D Mario games as Mario 64 is more of a collecthaton scavenger hunt than a run & jump platformer. However, since Nintendo is quality over quantity they were eventually able to add in nearly all traditional Mario elements in games like Mario Galaxy and still include the cool gravity mechanics. Sonic CAN in fact work in 3D, but a perfect transistion is impossible. Rather some rules will have to be rewritten.

The problem is that Sega tends to have bad deadlines. Instead of coming up with ways to get the franchise working they instead just rush the games out to market and hope that the games work. I'd say that 3D Sonic has been successfully pulled off with the Adventure games, but they're outdated examples. If we're talking by a modern day standpoint then I'm curious on what Sega will do.

Remember when I said that Sega tends to be too experimental? Well for the next 3D Sonic game it's supposed to be like Action-Adventure game instead of just an Action Platformer. Now to see how this will carry out  ???

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/13/17 at 1:28 pm


I have a cool, edgy, attitude, and it's 'hip' and cutting sharp.  8)  :D  :D  :D  :(  :(


http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/018/681/Ow_the_edge.jpg

I'm happy that the whole cool, edgy, attitude trend doesn't exist in the late '10s. It was so cheesy that it makes me wonder how/why it even got popular.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/13/17 at 1:31 pm


I think the fact of the matter is Sonic and its style of gameplay never transitioned well into the 3D era. This problem goes all the way back to Sonic 3D Blast for Sega Genesis.  That's not even considering the fact that the Sonic character itself is a product of the early '90s.  He was a "cool" alternative to Mario and that was great in the 90s, but what was "cool" then isn't in 2017.  Mario is a more timeless character and did a much better job at crossing over the barrier into the 3D era and has remained relevant to this day.


Sonic 3D Blast was like the only 3D game from the franchise that was at least decent. Sega at least cared for what they did at the time, so it wasn't like the game was entirely rushed.


http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/018/681/Ow_the_edge.jpg

I'm happy that the whole cool, edgy, attitude trend doesn't exist in the late '10s. It was so cheesy that it makes me wonder how/why it even got popular.


I think it was a meme that originated during the mid 2010s. Although it was a pain in the ass to go through it so much on Youtube.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/13/17 at 3:19 pm



I think it was a meme that originated during the mid 2010s. Although it was a pain in the ass to go through it so much on Youtube.


Yeah, in the 1990s being cool and edgy was the hip thing. Now in the 2010s being cool and edgy turns something into a laughable meme. Tastes sure do change.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/13/17 at 3:30 pm


Yeah, in the 1990s being cool and edgy was the hip thing. Now in the 2010s being cool and edgy turns something into a laughable meme. Tastes sure do change.


I don't think anyone took it seriously though. Much like any other meme, it didn't catch serious attention with the general public. So it was more likely to be ignored than it was in the 90s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 03/13/17 at 3:48 pm


I commend you for actually giving some reason. Certainly better than the bad articles you find on IGN or Gamespot where they say that the series can't work in 3D. Now transistioning from 2D to 3D is a bit tricky as you already know. And when Sega came up with the Sonic elements they were thinking from a 2D standpoint. So saying that they can't transistion to 3D perfectly is a reasonable argument. When changing from 2D to 3D some rules will have to be changed up. Take Super Mario 64 for example. It didn't apply the same rules as the 2D Mario games as Mario 64 is more of a collecthaton scavenger hunt than a run & jump platformer. However, since Nintendo is quality over quantity they were eventually able to add in nearly all traditional Mario elements in games like Mario Galaxy and still include the cool gravity mechanics. Sonic CAN in fact work in 3D, but a perfect transistion is impossible. Rather some rules will have to be rewritten.


I agree for the most part.  In order for Sonic to work in 3D, some rules will have to be rewritten.  That is risky though this late in the game.  Super Mario 64 transitioned to 3D in 1996, right at the time where 3D games were starting to take off.  Since 3D was new, they could take more risks back then.  They were successful at changing the rules but doing it in a way that it was still every bit as "Mario" as the previous games in the series.  With Mario 64, they also established the "rules" for future 3D Mario games.  Sonic on the other hand tried to keep the same formula it used in the 2D era and it simply didn't work very well.  I think changing the formula too much these days would be a failure.  The reason is that 3D gaming has matured and Sonic isn't as relevant as a character as he once was (in fact I would say that the character only lives on for nostalgia's sake).  Their best chance to really re-invent the franchise has come and gone.  It should have been done on the Dreamcast.  Sonic Adventure wasn't terrible but it wasn't great either and didn't have the impact that the Genesis-era titles did.  I consider Sonic Adventure to be the beginning of the end for the franchise.  With that said, the 2D games for Gameboy Advance were great as was Sonic 4.

The best future for the Sonic franchise is new 2D sidescrollers.  Games like New Super Mario Bros and Super Mario Maker show us that 2D sidescrollers can still be highly successful.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 03/13/17 at 10:01 pm


Yeah, in the 1990s being cool and edgy was the hip thing. Now in the 2010s being cool and edgy turns something into a laughable meme. Tastes sure do change.


I'd take the cool and edgy vibe of the 90s, over the dorkiness of the 2010s, any day. This decade has more of an obnoxious cutesy/quirky/pretentious tumblr/hipster/fake nerd/starbucks-chugging/ukuele-loving/snapchat-filtering/special-snowflake vibe. Hopefully there will be a huge backlash against this trend in the 2020s, because I can't take it anymore  8-P.

However in the context of video games, I don't care whether a character is cool or dorky. As long as the gameplay is fun.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/13/17 at 10:31 pm


I'd take the cool and edgy vibe of the 90s, over the dorkiness of the 2010s, any day. This decade has more of an obnoxious cutesy/quirky/pretentious tumblr/hipster/fake nerd/starbucks-chugging/ukuele-loving/snapchat-filtering/special-snowflake vibe. Hopefully there will be a huge backlash against this trend in the 2020s, because I can't take it anymore  8-P.


They probably will, since this decade was lame as sh*t over the past five years.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/13/17 at 10:36 pm


I'd take the cool and edgy vibe of the 90s, over the dorkiness of the 2010s, any day. This decade has more of an obnoxious cutesy/quirky/pretentious tumblr/hipster/fake nerd/starbucks-chugging/ukuele-loving/snapchat-filtering/special-snowflake vibe. Hopefully there will be a huge backlash against this trend in the 2020s, because I can't take it anymore  8-P.

However in the context of video games, I don't care whether a character is cool or dorky. As long as the gameplay is fun.


To me both the 90s and 10s are just terrible. I can't stand the overly quirky hipster vibes of the 10s and I don't think I can go back to the overly cool and edgy vibe of the 90s. I'd rather it just be like the '00s were there was no cringy trends. No hipsters and no wannbe edgy kids. Although the early 2000s did have the Xtreme vibe where everything tried to be all Xtreme with skateboards and scooters. But this ended by 2003/'04.


I wonder if the hipster trend will last to 2019. Maybe this is the final wave of hipster culture before it finally ends off as something else will take over.


In the early '90s a kid is acting all cool and edgy. In the early '00s a kid is riding his skateboard down hills trying to be extreme (and then he flies straight into a bunch of garbage cans). In the early '10s a kid is being an overly pretentious hipster who faults people for not liking what he likes, but as soon as said thing becomes more well known and people like it the hipster gets upset about it. I just hate hipsters as I don't understanding their reasoning for a lot of the things they do or like.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/13/17 at 10:39 pm


To me both the 90s and 10s are just terrible. I can't stand the overly quirky hipster vibes of the 10s and I don't think I can go back to the overly cool and edgy vibe of the 90s. I'd rather it just be like the '00s were there was no cringy trends. No hipsters and no wannbe edgy kids. Although the early 2000s did have the Xtreme vibe where everything tried to be all Xtreme with skateboards and scooters. But this ended by 2003/'04.


I wonder if the hipster trend will last to 2019. Maybe this is the final wave of hipster culture before it finally ends off as something else will take over.


This is where you and me will disagree, I love the 1990's trends and fashion.  :-[  :)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/13/17 at 10:42 pm


This is where you and me will disagree, I love the 1990's trends and fashion.  :-[  :)


To each his own, mate. I'm not gonna criticize you for what you like. 90s fashion can be appealing I just didn't like it when it was trying to be overly cool as it becomes quite silly. 90s fashion without the whole "Look at me I'm edgy" attitude is fine, though. I like the colorful of 90s fashion. Something I wish would come back. It's why I don't like Hipster fashion. It's like when people has a certain fashion they feel the need to give off this unneeded message. I'd rather a person would just wear certain clothing and just leave it at that. Wear cool 90s fashion yet don't go all edgy on me. Hipster fashion is ok, but there is no need for being pretentious.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/13/17 at 11:03 pm


To each his own, mate. I'm not gonna criticize you for what you like. 90s fashion can be appealing I just didn't like it when it was trying to be overly cool as it becomes quite silly. 90s fashion without the whole "Look at me I'm edgy" attitude is fine, though. I like the colorful of 90s fashion. Something I wish would come back. It's why I don't like Hipster fashion. It's like when people has a certain fashion they feel the need to give off this unneeded message. I'd rather a person would just wear certain clothing and just leave it at that. Wear cool 90s fashion yet don't go all edgy on me. Hipster fashion is ok, but there is no need for being pretentious.


I hate 2010's fashion.  :-X

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/13/17 at 11:09 pm


To me both the 90s and 10s are just terrible. I can't stand the overly quirky hipster vibes of the 10s and I don't think I can go back to the overly cool and edgy vibe of the 90s. I'd rather it just be like the '00s were there was no cringy trends. No hipsters and no wannbe edgy kids. Although the early 2000s did have the Xtreme vibe where everything tried to be all Xtreme with skateboards and scooters. But this ended by 2003/'04.


I wonder if the hipster trend will last to 2019. Maybe this is the final wave of hipster culture before it finally ends off as something else will take over.


In the early '90s a kid is acting all cool and edgy. In the early '00s a kid is riding his skateboard down hills trying to be extreme (and then he flies straight into a bunch of garbage cans). In the early '10s a kid is being an overly pretentious hipster who faults people for not liking what he likes, but as soon as said thing becomes more well known and people like it the hipster gets upset about it. I just hate hipsters as I don't understanding their reasoning for a lot of the things they do or like.

I also love 2000s culture the most. I find the lack of "identity" and defining trends as a breath of fresh air honestly. And this is also what makes up the 2000s identity. I love the 2000s for the fact that it was based on individual freedom, not conforming to trends that are popular.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 03/13/17 at 11:28 pm


To each his own, mate. I'm not gonna criticize you for what you like. 90s fashion can be appealing I just didn't like it when it was trying to be overly cool as it becomes quite silly. 90s fashion without the whole "Look at me I'm edgy" attitude is fine, though. I like the colorful of 90s fashion. Something I wish would come back. It's why I don't like Hipster fashion. It's like when people has a certain fashion they feel the need to give off this unneeded message. I'd rather a person would just wear certain clothing and just leave it at that. Wear cool 90s fashion yet don't go all edgy on me. Hipster fashion is ok, but there is no need for being pretentious.


I'm guessing you're more of a fan of pre-grunge (ie., 1990-1991) 90s fashion?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 03/13/17 at 11:47 pm


To me both the 90s and 10s are just terrible. I can't stand the overly quirky hipster vibes of the 10s and I don't think I can go back to the overly cool and edgy vibe of the 90s. I'd rather it just be like the '00s were there was no cringy trends. No hipsters and no wannbe edgy kids. Although the early 2000s did have the Xtreme vibe where everything tried to be all Xtreme with skateboards and scooters. But this ended by 2003/'04.


I wonder if the hipster trend will last to 2019. Maybe this is the final wave of hipster culture before it finally ends off as something else will take over.


In the early '90s a kid is acting all cool and edgy. In the early '00s a kid is riding his skateboard down hills trying to be extreme (and then he flies straight into a bunch of garbage cans). In the early '10s a kid is being an overly pretentious hipster who faults people for not liking what he likes, but as soon as said thing becomes more well known and people like it the hipster gets upset about it. I just hate hipsters as I don't understanding their reasoning for a lot of the things they do or like.


I'm not exactly partial to the edgy 90s vibe either (which was probably popularized by grunge). But I do find it far more tolerable that the hipster vibe of today. I cannot for the life of me understand how the hipster trend has gotten so popular. I mean, what exactly triggered the mainstream's taste in hipster-esque fashion/music? It's like post-2012 culture is dominated by this trend, and it's still popular in 2017. What gives?

I do think that it'll die out by the end of the decade though. Hopefully it'll be replaced with something that has a much wider appeal.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/14/17 at 7:55 am


I'm not exactly partial to the edgy 90s vibe either (which was probably popularized by grunge). But I do find it far more tolerable that the hipster vibe of today. I cannot for the life of me understand how the hipster trend has gotten so popular. I mean, what exactly triggered the mainstream's taste in hipster-esque fashion/music? It's like post-2012 culture is dominated by this trend, and it's still popular in 2017. What gives?


Social media made the trend popular. By having one person saying on how mainstream music sucks, it spread like wildfire when 2012 came. It became the center of attention by the time 2013 came, and everybody knew what the hell hipsters meant. I'm not entirely sure if the trend is around, since I personally don't care about hipsters. However, they do show up on urban areas now and then, while they blend in with the city.


I do think that it'll die out by the end of the decade though. Hopefully it'll be replaced with something that has a much wider appeal.


Hopefully it'll be replaced by something that doesn't make them look like spoiled brats.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: TheEarly90sFan on 03/14/17 at 9:21 am


I'm guessing you're more of a fan of pre-grunge (ie., 1990-1991) 90s fashion?


There was pre-grunge fashion 90s fashion being worn in the fall of '91 to the summer of '92, also.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/14/17 at 9:46 am


I also love 2000s culture the most. I find the lack of "identity" and defining trends as a breath of fresh air honestly. And this is also what makes up the 2000s identity. I love the 2000s for the fact that it was based on individual freedom, not conforming to trends that are popular.


Yeah, culturally there was something for everyone in the 2000s due to their being no dominating trends. The lack of identity is what gives the 2000s its own identity. And heck even a lack of identity isn't a bad thing. It just means that the 2000s no particular trend was dominating over everything else.


I hate 2010's fashion.  :-X


Only 2010s fashion I like is Skater Fashion and Neon Fashion. Neon fashion due to it being colorful. And skater fashion just due to how cool it looks and because I'm a sucker for the extreme.

Neon Fashion


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/84/78/0a/84780ad65b223100aa594a47a3f6f432.jpg
http://www.denimjeansobserver.com/mag/designer-denim-jeans-fashion/2015/ss/brands-d01/dsquared2-2015-spring-summer-men-milano-moda-uomo-collezione-fashion-italy-denim-jeans-drawings-neon-candy-color-camouflage-cats-sweatpants-bomber-coat-05x.jpg
http://static.fashionbeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/neon.jpg
https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1aQRiKFXXXXaXXpXXq6xXFXXXr/New-style-Fashion-men-s-clothing-personalized-font-b-neon-b-font-color-block-motorcycle-vest.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/11/28/36/112836aaea7d0c32dc3dd0ee2bb86232.jpg



Skater Fashion
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/63/69/92/636992b2e84f7ab8ec2377b97107c820.jpg
http://www.llsb.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/IMG_1684.jpg
http://www.thefashionisto.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/asos-skater-hoodie-800x1020.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/56/a2/23/56a223797d0c81eb66bd772d080ecfe4.jpg
https://traveltrailtony.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/kids-that-skate-cropped.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/5sosuktour2014_%28cropped%29.jpg/1024px-5sosuktour2014_%28cropped%29.jpg


I actually tend to mix the two whenever I get the chance. I'd have Skater clothing that would be all bright and neon. Looks great!


I'm guessing you're more of a fan of pre-grunge (ie., 1990-1991) 90s fashion?


There was pre-grunge fashion 90s fashion being worn in the fall of '91 to the summer of '92, also.


Yeah, I'm more of a fan of early '90s fashion. Fashion by then was largely colorful. By the mid 90s Grunge had taken over and the colorfulness of the fashion began to disappear. More grayed out colors.


I'm not exactly partial to the edgy 90s vibe either (which was probably popularized by grunge). But I do find it far more tolerable that the hipster vibe of today. I cannot for the life of me understand how the hipster trend has gotten so popular. I mean, what exactly triggered the mainstream's taste in hipster-esque fashion/music? It's like post-2012 culture is dominated by this trend, and it's still popular in 2017. What gives?

I do think that it'll die out by the end of the decade though. Hopefully it'll be replaced with something that has a much wider appeal.




Your guess is as good as mine. It doesn't make sense due to contradictions. First off Hipster = Not-Mainstream. So how in the hell did the Hipster trend become mainstream?  Unless people are fake hipsters and don't care whether or not it's mainstream as they just like the way it looks. I'm just as confused as you are. I don't know why it gotten huge. But I don't see it lasting after this decade. The 2010s is consistent which is why I can see Hipster fashion still being big. However, tastes in fashion change no matter what. Eventually the hipster look will become dated and something else would take its place.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/14/17 at 10:05 am


Yeah, culturally there was something for everyone in the 2000s due to their being no dominating trends. The lack of identity is what gives the 2000s its own identity. And heck even a lack of identity isn't a bad thing. It just means that the 2000s no particular trend was dominating over everything else.


That's probably why everyone had their own personal freedom wherever they go. They could just enjoy stuff without no hesitation, especially if it wasn't stuffed down people's throats throughout the whole decade. Although we did have social media rising up during the late 2000s (by that, I mean YouTube and Facebook), but nobody really take it seriously within their demographics. They could just go with their communities safely, and nobody would ever be having drama with any mainstream media. Nowadays it's easy to know about people, and they could get their personal information hacked, thanks to Facebook's lack of privacy.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/14/17 at 10:57 am


That's probably why everyone had their own personal freedom wherever they go. They could just enjoy stuff without no hesitation, especially if it wasn't stuffed down people's throats throughout the whole decade. Although we did have social media rising up during the late 2000s (by that, I mean YouTube and Facebook), but nobody really take it seriously within their demographics. They could just go with their communities safely, and nobody would ever be having drama with any mainstream media. Nowadays it's easy to know about people, and they could get their personal information hacked, thanks to Facebook's lack of privacy.


2000s Social Media was always funny to me. Even with youtube people were more into just making funny reviews, youtube poops, and cat videos to really care. Heck the lack of trends even relates to youtube. Notice how today's youtube has it's own youtube trends. A lot of the top channels are just gamer channels or vlogs. Back in the 2000s there was no real trend going on. Some describe it as the wild west era of youtube. As for the 2000s pop culture was all over the place. I assume people were just tired of dominating trends and wanted to just break away from it.

People say the 2000s and 2010s are similar, but what makes the 2010s really stand apart from the 2000s is that the 2010s has an identity. It's own cultural vibe. The 2000's identity was that it had a lack of identity which in turn actually makes it quite unique from other decades.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/14/17 at 11:18 am


2000s Social Media was always funny to me. Even with youtube people were more into just making funny reviews, youtube poops, and cat videos to really care. Heck the lack of trends even relates to youtube. Notice how today's youtube has it's own youtube trends. A lot of the top channels are just gamer channels or vlogs. Back in the 2000s there was no real trend going on. Some describe it as the wild west era of youtube. As for the 2000s pop culture was all over the place. I assume people were just tired of dominating trends and wanted to just break away from it.


Back then, a lot of people on YouTube were shown with a lot of fame and it wasn't hard. Even I got some fame just by making some videos back in 2009 and 2010, and that made me happy. Any interest you had back then can be easy to get popular on the site. Nobody even had a problem with it. Nowadays, people consider making YouTube videos as a job, like they don't have anything else to do. But what makes it worse is that most of them are gaming channels, and not everybody in the whole world likes video games. So with that, the entire community of YouTube is obsessed with unnecessary gaming channels that nobody cared for back when they started.


People say the 2000s and 2010s are similar, but what makes the 2010s really stand apart from the 2000s is that the 2010s has an identity. It's own cultural vibe. The 2000's identity was that it had a lack of identity which in turn actually makes it quite unique from other decades.


Whoever said that probably hasn't experienced the 2000s at all. The culture in the 2000s were lax compared to now. The 2010s on the other hand is dependent on the Internet so much, that entertainment companies are trying to be more like the same trend over and over again. It's really sad if you think about it.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/14/17 at 12:01 pm


I'm not exactly partial to the edgy 90s vibe either (which was probably popularized by grunge). But I do find it far more tolerable that the hipster vibe of today. I cannot for the life of me understand how the hipster trend has gotten so popular. I mean, what exactly triggered the mainstream's taste in hipster-esque fashion/music? It's like post-2012 culture is dominated by this trend, and it's still popular in 2017. What gives?

I do think that it'll die out by the end of the decade though. Hopefully it'll be replaced with something that has a much wider appeal.


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Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 03/14/17 at 3:08 pm

Notice how today's youtube has it's own youtube trends. A lot of the top channels are just gamer channels or vlogs

I see that a lot especially also with comedy channels.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 03/14/17 at 4:13 pm


I'm not exactly partial to the edgy 90s vibe either (which was probably popularized by grunge). But I do find it far more tolerable that the hipster vibe of today. I cannot for the life of me understand how the hipster trend has gotten so popular. I mean, what exactly triggered the mainstream's taste in hipster-esque fashion/music? It's like post-2012 culture is dominated by this trend, and it's still popular in 2017. What gives?

I do think that it'll die out by the end of the decade though. Hopefully it'll be replaced with something that has a much wider appeal.


I loved the more edgy aesthetic of the 2000s. I think that might be why the 2010s became so hipster. Don't worry, I also hate the hipster aesthetic. Emo was on life support in the first two years of the 2010s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/14/17 at 4:52 pm


I'm not exactly partial to the edgy 90s vibe either (which was probably popularized by grunge). But I do find it far more tolerable that the hipster vibe of today. I cannot for the life of me understand how the hipster trend has gotten so popular. I mean, what exactly triggered the mainstream's taste in hipster-esque fashion/music? It's like post-2012 culture is dominated by this trend, and it's still popular in 2017. What gives?

I do think that it'll die out by the end of the decade though. Hopefully it'll be replaced with something that has a much wider appeal.


I may be misinformed, or don't go out a lot, but perhaps Obama's presidency made hipster fashion really popular? It's hard for me to see a Right Winger dressing this way.

Add to that, 90's nostalgia.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/14/17 at 6:12 pm


I may be misinformed, or don't go out a lot, but perhaps Obama's presidency made hipster fashion really popular? It's hard for me to see a Right Winger dressing this way.

Add to that, 90's nostalgia.


The alt-right do dress hipster. They call it "fashy" (fascist fashion). They get undercuts/dress like the 1940s because it's an ode to Nazi Germany. The alternative name for undercut is "Hitler Youth cut/hair". A lot of them get 88/Nazi/Aryan tattoos too.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/14/17 at 6:17 pm


The alt-right do dress hipster. They call it "fashy" (fascist fashion). They get undercuts/dress like the 1940s because it's an ode to Nazi Germany. The alternative name for undercut is "Hitler Youth cut/hair". A lot of them get 88/Nazi/Aryan tattoos too.


Is this a joke??  :o

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Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/14/17 at 6:44 pm


The alt-right do dress hipster. They call it "fashy" (fascist fashion). They get undercuts/dress like the 1940s because it's an ode to Nazi Germany. The alternative name for undercut is "Hitler Youth cut/hair". A lot of them get 88/Nazi/Aryan tattoos too.


Don't all white supremacist groups do that? Not just the Alt-Right?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/14/17 at 7:33 pm

2019 will be the beginning of The Supreme Years!!!!! Muahahahahahahahaha!

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Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/14/17 at 8:19 pm


Is this a joke??  :o

As you're replying, here is a catchy, pop record, for you to listen to. Please press '3' to reach the manager, and '4' to reach the receptionist.

H67yqlsZF6U


J Lo's first album was good, and then she was assassinated and replaced by a double. The vocals in her other albums are completely different LOL

Get Right is one of my favourite 2000s pop songs though, hands down. I would probably put it second or third after a couple of Avril Lavigne songs. On The Floor (ft. Pitbull!!) from 2013 is also a shame bop for me.  People have embarrassing videos of me dancing to that. :-[

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/14/17 at 8:49 pm


J Lo's first album was good, and then she was assassinated and replaced by a double. The vocals in her other albums are completely different LOL

Get Right is one of my favourite 2000s pop songs though, hands down. I would probably put it second or third after a couple of Avril Lavigne songs. On The Floor (ft. Pitbull!!) from 2013 is also a shame bop for me.  People have embarrassing videos of me dancing to that. :-fresh, term, I must now use.  :o

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Written By: Slim95 on 03/14/17 at 10:45 pm


J Lo's first album was good, and then she was assassinated and replaced by a double. The vocals in her other albums are completely different LOL

Get Right is one of my favourite 2000s pop songs though, hands down. I would probably put it second or third after a couple of Avril Lavigne songs. On The Floor (ft. Pitbull!!) from 2013 is also a shame bop for me.  People have embarrassing videos of me dancing to that. :-[

On the Floor is from 2011, not 2013. I heard that song constantly on the radio back in '11 when I was working in my old job.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/14/17 at 11:06 pm


On the Floor is from 2011, not 2013. I heard that song constantly on the radio back in '11 when I was working in my old job.


Oh you're right, lol, my bad. ;D 2013 is when the embarrassing video happened. :-[ It was a song featured in Just Dance 4 for the Wii, which came out late 2012.

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Written By: 80sfan on 03/14/17 at 11:54 pm


Oh you're right, lol, my bad. ;D 2013 is when the embarrassing video happened. :-[ It was a song featured in Just Dance 4 for the Wii, which came out late 2012.


2011 was a very fun year for dance music.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/15/17 at 5:34 pm


I commend you for actually giving some reason. Certainly better than the bad articles you find on IGN or Gamespot where they say that the series can't work in 3D. Now transistioning from 2D to 3D is a bit tricky as you already know. And when Sega came up with the Sonic elements they were thinking from a 2D standpoint. So saying that they can't transistion to 3D perfectly is a reasonable argument. When changing from 2D to 3D some rules will have to be changed up. Take Super Mario 64 for example. It didn't apply the same rules as the 2D Mario games as Mario 64 is more of a collecthaton scavenger hunt than a run & jump platformer. However, since Nintendo is quality over quantity they were eventually able to add in nearly all traditional Mario elements in games like Mario Galaxy and still include the cool gravity mechanics. Sonic CAN in fact work in 3D, but a perfect transistion is impossible. Rather some rules will have to be rewritten.

The problem is that Sega tends to have bad deadlines. Instead of coming up with ways to get the franchise working they instead just rush the games out to market and hope that the games work. I'd say that 3D Sonic has been successfully pulled off with the Adventure games, but they're outdated examples. If we're talking by a modern day standpoint then I'm curious on what Sega will do.

Remember when I said that Sega tends to be too experimental? Well for the next 3D Sonic game it's supposed to be like Action-Adventure game instead of just an Action Platformer. Now to see how this will carry out  ???

I agree for the most part.  In order for Sonic to work in 3D, some rules will have to be rewritten.  That is risky though this late in the game.  Super Mario 64 transitioned to 3D in 1996, right at the time where 3D games were starting to take off.  Since 3D was new, they could take more risks back then.  They were successful at changing the rules but doing it in a way that it was still every bit as "Mario" as the previous games in the series.  With Mario 64, they also established the "rules" for future 3D Mario games.  Sonic on the other hand tried to keep the same formula it used in the 2D era and it simply didn't work very well.  I think changing the formula too much these days would be a failure.  The reason is that 3D gaming has matured and Sonic isn't as relevant as a character as he once was (in fact I would say that the character only lives on for nostalgia's sake).  Their best chance to really re-invent the franchise has come and gone.  It should have been done on the Dreamcast.  Sonic Adventure wasn't terrible but it wasn't great either and didn't have the impact that the Genesis-era titles did.  I consider Sonic Adventure to be the beginning of the end for the franchise.  With that said, the 2D games for Gameboy Advance were great as was Sonic 4.

The best future for the Sonic franchise is new 2D sidescrollers.  Games like New Super Mario Bros and Super Mario Maker show us that 2D sidescrollers can still be highly successful.
I think Sonic would have a better transition to the 3D world had the Xtreme game not been cancelled. This was around the time SM64 was released and the Sonic's next installment would have been out next year. This game was going to be the one where Sonic would rise back to the top and claim #1; however due to the conditions and frustrations, the game was ultimately canned which is what most likely caused Sega not to take anymore risks.

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Written By: Looney Toon on 03/15/17 at 6:05 pm


I think Sonic would have a better transition to the 3D world had the Xtreme game not been cancelled. This was around the time SM64 was released and the Sonic's next installment would have been out next year. This game was going to be the one where Sonic would rise back to the top and claim #1; however due to the conditions and frustrations, the game was ultimately canned which is what most likely caused Sega not to take anymore risks.


Sonic Xtreme (surprisingly it didn't have any snowboarding, dirt biking, skating/grinding or any other extreme sport in it. Heck, Sonic Adventure 2 was more Xtreme than Sonic Xtreme  ;D ) being cancelled is sad as I did find some interest in the game. It especially would've helped Sega during the 5th Gen. Instead they had to rely on porting Sonic 3D Blast to the Sega Saturn.



On the subject of gaming in general has anyone been noticing the the crazy trend of open world games as of the 2010s? We have shooter, mobas, sports, and racers being huge genres. But as of lately I've been noticing the craze for open world action adventure games lately. Maybe this is just a natural progression of gaming.

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/15/17 at 6:10 pm


Sonic Xtreme (surprisingly it didn't have any snowboarding, dirt biking, skating/grinding or any other extreme sport in it. Heck, Sonic Adventure 2 was more Xtreme than Sonic Xtreme  ;D ) being cancelled is sad as I did find some interest in the game. It especially would've helped Sega during the 5th Gen. Instead they had to rely on porting Sonic 3D Blast to the Sega Saturn.


If Sonic Xtreme was a thing, then I would've loved playing the Sega Saturn. But most of their games are just pieces of junk that nobody actually bought, aside from Sega enthusiasts (no offense to them).

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 03/15/17 at 6:41 pm




Sonic Xtreme (surprisingly it didn't have any snowboarding, dirt biking, skating/grinding or any other extreme sport in it. Heck, Sonic Adventure 2 was more Xtreme than Sonic Xtreme  ;D ) being cancelled is sad as I did find some interest in the game. It especially would've helped Sega during the 5th Gen. Instead they had to rely on porting Sonic 3D Blast to the Sega Saturn.



On the subject of gaming in general has anyone been noticing the the crazy trend of open world games as of the 2010s? We have shooter, mobas, sports, and racers being huge genres. But as of lately I've been noticing the craze for open world action adventure games lately. Maybe this is just a natural progression of gaming.


Yeah, I've heard it's been growing in popularity for a while now. I haven't played any games that fit that category though.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: musicguy93 on 03/15/17 at 6:44 pm


If Sonic Xtreme was a thing, then I would've loved playing the Sega Saturn. But most of their games are just pieces of junk that nobody actually bought, aside from Sega enthusiasts (no offense to them).


I heard Nights into Dreams was pretty good. Probably one of the few Saturn games that was well recieved.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/15/17 at 7:05 pm




Sonic Xtreme (surprisingly it didn't have any snowboarding, dirt biking, skating/grinding or any other extreme sport in it. Heck, Sonic Adventure 2 was more Xtreme than Sonic Xtreme  ;D ) being cancelled is sad as I did find some interest in the game. It especially would've helped Sega during the 5th Gen. Instead they had to rely on porting Sonic 3D Blast to the Sega Saturn.
I know. That's weird! I think that would have made the game much better with those features. Oh, and here are clips of how the game was supposed to look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i87Vv071pA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzvS_beXtXk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFY1yE-5UtA

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Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/15/17 at 7:31 pm


I heard Nights into Dreams was pretty good. Probably one of the few Saturn games that was well recieved.


That's one of the only good games from the Saturn. Most of the games from that consoles were flat out dull, while most Sega fans by 1995 switched to Sony for the Playstation. It was kinda depressing when the 5th gen was on full swing, but they at least had effort until 2001 (with their consoles). By 2005, they were kinda dead with only making Sonic games, which wasn't a big deal since the franchise didn't have a classic since Sonic & Knuckles (not including Sonic 3D Blast, since it wasn't that great).

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/15/17 at 8:43 pm

W H E W that Dutch election!

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The globalist world order must hold!! Next stop: France, Turkey and Germany!! I love the late 2010s ˆ_ˆ

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/15/17 at 8:46 pm


On the subject of gaming in general has anyone been noticing the the crazy trend of open world games as of the 2010s? We have shooter, mobas, sports, and racers being huge genres. But as of lately I've been noticing the craze for open world action adventure games lately. Maybe this is just a natural progression of gaming.


Ooo, we were talkng about this in another gaming forum I go on. 7th/8th gen were generations of shooters, and 9th gen would be a generation of open-world games. It's definitely looking like a trend that will blow up. More late 2010s goodness!

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Written By: 2001 on 03/15/17 at 9:10 pm


I know. That's weird! I think that would have made the game much better with those features. Oh, and here are clips of how the game was supposed to look.


The camera in that made me really dizzy ~_~

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/15/17 at 9:34 pm

What I noticed from my sisters' garbage Nick/Disney sitcoms is that Lady Gaga (and even Kesha!) mentions and songs are appearing more often. Early '10s nostalgia for the preteens? I remember when I was 14 in 2007 I was already nostalgic for Y2K era stuff like Pokémon and DBZ ;D

How To Train Your Dragon nostalgia is definitely already a thing. Sorry but I'm gonna hang with the 13 year old cool kids instead of those mid-2000s nostalgists.  :-X :-X :-X :-X

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Written By: 80sfan on 03/15/17 at 9:43 pm


What I noticed from my sisters' garbage Nick/Disney sitcoms is that Lady Gaga (and even Kesha!) mentions and songs are appearing more often. Early '10s nostalgia for the preteens? I remember when I was 14 in 2007 I was already nostalgic for Y2K era stuff like Pokémon and DBZ ;D

How To Train Your Dragon nostalgia is definitely already a thing. Sorry but I'm gonna hang with the 13 year old cool kids instead of those lame mid-2000s nostalgists.  :-X :-X :-X :-X


I used to hate Kesha, but I like her now. She got me through my depression years post 2007. Her 'Your love is my drug' song is catchy as h3ll.
As for Gaga, I always thought she slaughtered children for her meat dress! Very scary!  :o  :(  :(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/16/17 at 12:57 am

I can't get enough of Bruno Mars and his late 2016 album. While 24K Magic steals everyone's attention my favorite song would have to be Finesse.
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This is literally modern New Jack Swing right here.  8) :D ;D
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Bruno, all you need to do is make more of this and we'll have a new, uh, New Jack Swing movement......maybe. People saying the genre can't be revived due to how dated it sounds (which I'd be laying if I said that it wasn't dated in sound), but all that needs to be done is just a bit of updating. That of which Mars has done. The song takes from a late 80s music genre, but it fits right with music from the late 2010s. We just need more of this.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/16/17 at 1:37 am


What I noticed from my sisters' garbage Nick/Disney sitcoms is that Lady Gaga (and even Kesha!) mentions and songs are appearing more often. Early '10s nostalgia for the preteens? I remember when I was 14 in 2007 I was already nostalgic for Y2K era stuff like Pokémon and DBZ ;D

How To Train Your Dragon nostalgia is definitely already a thing. Sorry but I'm gonna hang with the 13 year old cool kids instead of those mid-2000s nostalgists.  :-X :-X :-X :-X

Also, I've noticed on YouTube videos for songs like Teenage Dream and I Gotta Feeling that the comments are full of 12 year olds saying "I feel so old omg", "I wish I was a teen in that generation", or "The world was a much happier/safer place when these songs came out". And if you go on "Old Disney/Nick/CN" videos, the comments are full of love for stuff like Chowder, Flapjack, iCarly, Wizards of Waverly Place, Good Luck Charlie, and Victorious.

Late 00s/early 10s nostalgia is most certainly upon us, in these dark Trumpeteer times.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/16/17 at 1:52 am


What I noticed from my sisters' garbage Nick/Disney sitcoms is that Lady Gaga (and even Kesha!) mentions and songs are appearing more often. Early '10s nostalgia for the preteens? I remember when I was 14 in 2007 I was already nostalgic for Y2K era stuff like Pokémon and DBZ ;D

How To Train Your Dragon nostalgia is definitely already a thing. Sorry but I'm gonna hang with the 13 year old cool kids instead of those mid-2000s nostalgists.  :-X :-X :-X :-X

The Y2K era did date itself very fast, to be fair.

I remember watching the 2001 movie Osmosis Jones in 2006 and thinking "Damn this feels old! Almost like it could be a classic movie. But it's only 5 years old. :o" Elements like the slightly "muffled" sound mix, the aged picture quality, the pre-9/11 goofiness, the bright color palette, the early 2000s R&B, etc. seemed to set it apart from what was going on in 06.

And to be fair it seems like the late 00s/early 10s are dating themselves fast as well. Elements like Obama first-term optimism, electro pop music, Tea Party in place of the alt right, Ron Paul fans in place of Bernie Bros, memes still being straight-faced and not yet "post-ironic", Millennials still mostly being called Gen Yers (this is just an example, lets not have another generatioinology argument), anti-Semitism being doormant compared to now, Bieber being popular, Alex Jones still being an underground phenomenon and not the White House's best bud, Islam being relatively ignored rather than a hot button issue, YouTube being on the cusp of being both niche and popular, Osama bin Ladens death, Breaking Bad, etc. seem to set them apart from the evil, hateful, fake, depressing era that we've been in since around 2014/2015.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: nintieskid999 on 03/16/17 at 2:15 am


The Y2K era did date itself very fast, to be fair.

I remember watching the 2001 movie Osmosis Jones in 2006 and thinking "Damn this feels old! Almost like it could be a classic movie. But it's only 5 years old. :o" Elements like the slightly "muffled" sound mix, the aged picture quality, the pre-9/11 goofiness, the bright color palette, the early 2000s R&B, etc. seemed to set it apart from what was going on in 06.

And to be fair it seems like the late 00s/early 10s are dating themselves fast as well. Elements like Obama first-term optimism, electro pop music, Tea Party in place of the alt right, Ron Paul fans in place of Bernie Bros, memes still being straight-faced and not yet "post-ironic", Millennials still mostly being called Gen Yers (this is just an example, lets not have another generatioinology argument), anti-Semitism being doormant compared to now, Bieber being popular, Alex Jones still being an underground phenomenon and not the White House's best bud, Islam being relatively ignored rather than a hot button issue, YouTube being on the cusp of being both niche and popular, Osama bin Ladens death, Breaking Bad, etc. seem to set them apart from the evil, hateful, fake, depressing era that we've been in since around 2014/2015.


I don't think anything will be good until the 2040s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/16/17 at 2:16 am


I don't think anything will be good until the 2040s.

You're just picking numbers at random here

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Written By: HazelBlue99 on 03/16/17 at 2:25 am


Also, I've noticed on YouTube videos for songs like Teenage Dream and I Gotta Feeling that the comments are full of 12 year olds saying "I feel so old omg", "I wish I was a teen in that generation", or "The world was a much happier/safer place when these songs came out". And if you go on "Old Disney/Nick/CN" videos, the comments are full of love for stuff like Chowder, Flapjack, iCarly, Wizards of Waverly Place, Good Luck Charlie, and Victorious.


To be honest, it genuinely makes me feel old reading comments like that, especially when you consider the fact that a lot of the people making those comments were only toddlers at the time.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/16/17 at 2:27 am


To be honest, it genuinely makes me feel old reading comments like that, especially when you consider the fact that a lot of the people making those comments were only toddlers at the time.

The world is falling into a black hole of Trump-despair so people younger and younger are yearning for their pre-Trump innocent days.

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Written By: nintieskid999 on 03/16/17 at 2:57 am


The world is falling into a black hole of Trump-despair so people younger and younger are yearning for their pre-Trump innocent days.


The true innocent days were the days before Columbine or 9/11.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/17 at 5:57 am


Also, I've noticed on YouTube videos for songs like Teenage Dream and I Gotta Feeling that the comments are full of 12 year olds saying "I feel so old omg", "I wish I was a teen in that generation", or "The world was a much happier/safer place when these songs came out". And if you go on "Old Disney/Nick/CN" videos, the comments are full of love for stuff like Chowder, Flapjack, iCarly, Wizards of Waverly Place, Good Luck Charlie, and Victorious.

Late 00s/early 10s nostalgia is most certainly upon us, in these dark Trumpeteer times.


There are kids born in 2004/2005 saying that old CN shows make them feel old? Even if they were only toddlers by the time those shows were around? XD

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/16/17 at 9:55 am


Also, I've noticed on YouTube videos for songs like Teenage Dream and I Gotta Feeling that the comments are full of 12 year olds saying "I feel so old omg", "I wish I was a teen in that generation", or "The world was a much happier/safer place when these songs came out". And if you go on "Old Disney/Nick/CN" videos, the comments are full of love for stuff like Chowder, Flapjack, iCarly, Wizards of Waverly Place, Good Luck Charlie, and Victorious.

Late 00s/early 10s nostalgia is most certainly upon us, in these dark Trumpeteer times.


The late 00s/early 10s certainly are staring to feel dated. Also it's crazy to think that nowadays we have 12 year olds being nostalgic for late 00s/early 10s stuff (think a 12 year old would be born from 2004/2005 by 2017). I can get their nostalgia for the time. During 2009-2012/2013 things were optimistic/upbeat, colorful, and wacky. I also miss the feeling of that time.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/16/17 at 10:04 am


Ooo, we were talkng about this in another gaming forum I go on. 7th/8th gen were generations of shooters, and 9th gen would be a generation of open-world games. It's definitely looking like a trend that will blow up. More late 2010s goodness!


Yeah, seems that the gaming is finally starting to move forward. The 8th gen didn't progress much from the 7th gen, but as we moved through the 8th gen I've been noticing more and more games with open world or non-linear gameplay aspects. Games that aren't even Open World like Deus Ex Mankind Divided still has a lot of big areas and branching story elements. Add this with the whole VR craze (and whatever else comes up) and I can finally say that gaming is starting to move forward again.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/17 at 10:06 am


The late 00s/early 10s certainly are staring to feel dated. Also it's crazy to think that nowadays we have 12 year olds being nostalgic for late 00s/early 10s stuff (think a 12 year old would be born from 2004/2005 by 2017). I can get their nostalgia for the time. During 2009-2012/2013 things were optimistic/upbeat, colorful, and wacky. I also miss the feeling of that time.


I never really thought that 12 year olds could feel old, since today's preteens are born in the mid 2000s. That alone makes me feel old, and I'm only 17. However, I could agree that 2007-2011 are starting to be more dated than they already were.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/16/17 at 10:28 am


The late 00s/early 10s certainly are staring to feel dated. Also it's crazy to think that nowadays we have 12 year olds being nostalgic for late 00s/early 10s stuff (think a 12 year old would be born from 2004/2005 by 2017). I can get their nostalgia for the time. During 2009-2012/2013 things were optimistic/upbeat, colorful, and wacky. I also miss the feeling of that time.

The late 00s/early 10s don't feel very dated to me, but they do feel a very long time ago. 2007 feels quite dated today though.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: aja675 on 03/16/17 at 10:32 am


To be honest, it genuinely makes me feel old reading comments like that, especially when you consider the fact that a lot of the people making those comments were only toddlers at the time.

It's not that strange, I used to be nostalgic about pre-2002 stuff as a 13 year old.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/16/17 at 12:45 pm


I remember when I was 14 in 2007 I was already nostalgic for Y2K era stuff like Pokémon and DBZ ;D

Gotta admit, I do miss the good ol' days of 2007 when early 2000s nostalgia was confined to small geeky corners of the Internet, rather than being commercialized by millions of idiots on Reddit, Facebook, Buzzfeed, and 9gag who crack unfunny jokes.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/16/17 at 1:30 pm


I never really thought that 12 year olds could feel old, since today's preteens are born in the mid 2000s. That alone makes me feel old, and I'm only 17. However, I could agree that 2007-2011 are starting to be more dated than they already were.

And the first set of them are starting to enter teenhood for real... :o :o :o

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/17 at 1:33 pm


And the first set of them are starting to enter teenhood for real... :o :o :o


By the end of this decade, mid 2000s babies would be 13-15 years old. On the top of that, 2003 and 2004 babies would be going to high school in the next two years.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/16/17 at 1:36 pm


To be honest, it genuinely makes me feel old reading comments like that, especially when you consider the fact that a lot of the people making those comments were only toddlers at the time.

There are kids born in 2004/2005 saying that old CN shows make them feel old? Even if they were only toddlers by the time those shows were around? XD

To be fair guys... they were actually 5,6, and even 7 during those shows LATER years.
Also, there is a thing called reruns.... people need to stop making these kids shows eras into a club. But unfortunately those "90s kids'' started this BS.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/16/17 at 1:37 pm


By the end of this decade, mid 2000s babies would be 13-15 years old. On the top of that, 2004 babies would be going to high school next year.

Yup those born during the first half. :o :(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/17 at 1:42 pm


To be fair guys... they were actually 5,6, and even 7 during those shows LATER years.
Also, there is a thing called reruns.... people need to stop making these kids shows eras into a club. But unfortunately those "90s kids'' started this BS.


That is true, but they're saying it like they experienced it very vividly. Even though they haven't watched some of those shows in its entirety. Plus, 2004 and 2005 babies were rather like early 2010s kids, so it's like some of them just jumped into the nostalgia bandwagon.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/16/17 at 2:23 pm

If I was an early 10's kid who was born in 2005 I'd probably just be nostalgic for the upbeat feel that took place within pop culture between 2009-2012/2013. Now mid 2000s born are late 2010s teens in middle/high school. I'm curious to see how they will look back on their childhoods by the time they reach 18.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/17 at 2:32 pm


If I was an early 10's kid who was born in 2005 I'd probably just be nostalgic for the upbeat feel that took place within pop culture between 2009-2012/2013. Now mid 2000s born are late 2010s teens in middle/high school. I'm curious to see how they will look back on their childhoods by the time they reach 18.


I'm just really surprised that 2005 babies are now nostalgic for their own childhood, even though they're still in middle school. By the time I was in middle school (7th and 8th grade to be exact), I did listen to songs made between 1983-2005, since they were something that I could listen to daily.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 03/16/17 at 3:25 pm


I don't think anything will be good until the 2040s.


That would be another 25 years from now.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/16/17 at 3:31 pm


I'm just really surprised that 2005 babies are now nostalgic for their own childhood, even though they're still in middle school. By the time I was in middle school (7th and 8th grade to be exact), I did listen to songs made between 1983-2005, since they were something that I could listen to daily.


I think this is more of a problem with pop culture. The reason I don't find 2010s culture to be as interesting is due to the fact that instead of making new and interesting/creative things people are instead just trying to recreate stuff from the past. Nostalgia has always been a part of pop culture, but in the 2010s I'd argue that it almost dominates pop culture. Too busy nostalgia pandering or making people relive the same moments they've been through before instead of making some fresh and new. This spiraled out of control and now we have it where people are nostalgia over things that happened 5 years ago. Either that or the current kids/teens just wanna seem cool by saying how modern stuff sucks and how better things were 5+ years ago cause ya know .... "If it's modern then it sucks"  ::).

2005 babies being nostalgia is certainly funny, but I think it's just an example of current pop culture and the retro/nostalgia craze we've been having.

A copy paste from the almighty Wiki.
The 1970s brought about a 1950s–early 60s revival with American Graffiti, Grease, and Happy Days. This lasted into the 1980s with the rockabilly revival. The 1950s greaser look greatly influenced the punk subculture.

The 1980s witnessed a 1960s revival. Power pop of the decade was influenced by 1960s pop rock, and various artists covered 1960s hits. Notable examples include "You Keep Me Hangin' On" being covered by Kim Wilde and "Where Did Our Love Go?" being covered by Soft Cell.

The 1990s brought a 1970s revival. Musically, a revival of 1970s disco and pop occurred, led by artists such as the A*Teens. Television series That '70s Show also debuted.

The late 1990s began the 1980s revival, which grew into the 2000s. 1980s-themed films such as Grosse Pointe Blank, The Wedding Singer, and Romy and Michele's High School Reunion were released in the late 1990s. This craze also brought about revivals of The Transformers, G.I. Joe, Speed Racer, The Smurfs, and Voltron. The post-punk revival coincides with this, as the genre was originally popular (albeit underground) in the 1980s. There was a That '80s Show, but it was short-lived. I Love the '80s, a part of a series of decade retrospectives, became the most popular of the series and spawned two sequel series.

The 2010s have seen a revival of both the 1980s and 1990s. A trend for 1980s second wave synthpop is growing along with 1990s-style future house and nu-disco songs by such artists as Katy Perry, Justin Timberlake, and Bruno Mars. TV channel Nickelodeon has established a block on its TEENick station featuring 1990s Nickelodeon programs, and several of Nick's 1990s shows have been revived. There was also an I Love the '90s series.

A revival of the 2000s has also been predicted. Sequels to 2000s films, such as Anchorman 2, Finding Dory, and Monsters University have been released ten years after the original films. Arrested Development, a television series than ran from 2003 to 2006, was also revived in 2012. Some believe this a case of the "nostalgia cycle" becoming shorter, as the generation that grew up with this media is now in their late teens/early 20s


So it seems that the nostalgia cycle is getting shorter as we move further into  the late 2010s. Instead of the usual 15-20 years it may just be 5-15 years. I need to look into the reasoning for why the nostalgia cycle is becoming shorter and whether or not will it ever go back to normal. I don't wanna have it where things get worse where people are getting nostalgia over things that happened just 1 year ago.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/16/17 at 3:48 pm

Welp! After about 5 minutes of searching it appears that the shortening of nostalgia cycles isn't a modern thing. There has been talk of this since the late 1990s. One magazine saying that we'll eventually to the point where we're nostalgia for the year that we were too busy being nostalgia for. Example lets take the year 2011. By 2017 a small amount of people are nostalgic for 2011, but it's strange as during 2011 we were too busy being nostalgic for an even older time to really appreciate 2011.

More I look into the more I just hate nostalgia. I'd even exaggerate and say that it has a hand in messing up pop culture. Taking elements from the past and updating them is cool. Take Bruno Mars for example. He takes 70s-90s music elements and make new and fresh music in the end.This is fine as this isn't really pandering (especially since I'd argue that the hip young audience didn't even grow up in the 70s and neither did Bruno). Bruno Mars is an example of doing original and interesting stuff with music. I just can't stand when companies just keep making revivals, remakes, rehashes, and sequels to old stuff. Got way out of hand this decade.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/16/17 at 3:52 pm


I used to hate Kesha, but I like her now. She got me through my depression years post 2007. Her 'Your love is my drug' song is catchy as h3ll.
As for Gaga, I always thought she slaughtered children for her meat dress! Very scary!  :o  :(  :(


I believed in the rumours that said Lady Gaga was actually a man.  :-
I can't get enough of Bruno Mars and his late 2016 album. While 24K Magic steals everyone's attention my favorite song would have to be Finesse.

This is literally modern New Jack Swing right here.  8) :D ;D

Bruno, all you need to do is make more of this and we'll have a new, uh, New Jack Swing movement......maybe. People saying the genre can't be revived due to how dated it sounds (which I'd be laying if I said that it wasn't dated in sound), but all that needs to be done is just a bit of updating. That of which Mars has done. The song takes from a late 80s music genre, but it fits right with music from the late 2010s. We just need more of this.


Too bad the album flopped.  :( I really liked it, but now that I think about it, a lot of the songs in it sounded samey. If you've heard 2 or 3, you've heard the other 5. It was a very short album.


The Y2K era did date itself very fast, to be fair.

I remember watching the 2001 movie Osmosis Jones in 2006 and thinking "Damn this feels old! Almost like it could be a classic movie. But it's only 5 years old. :o" Elements like the slightly "muffled" sound mix, the aged picture quality, the pre-9/11 goofiness, the bright color palette, the early 2000s R&B, etc. seemed to set it apart from what was going on in 06.

And to be fair it seems like the late 00s/early 10s are dating themselves fast as well. Elements like Obama first-term optimism, electro pop music, Tea Party in place of the alt right, Ron Paul fans in place of Bernie Bros, memes still being straight-faced and not yet "post-ironic", Millennials still mostly being called Gen Yers (this is just an example, lets not have another generatioinology argument), anti-Semitism being doormant compared to now, Bieber being popular, Alex Jones still being an underground phenomenon and not the White House's best bud, Islam being relatively ignored rather than a hot button issue, YouTube being on the cusp of being both niche and popular, Osama bin Ladens death, Breaking Bad, etc. seem to set them apart from the evil, hateful, fake, depressing era that we've been in since around 2014/2015.


FFfffffffffffff, downvote! Bieber is still popular!!!!


Also, I've noticed on YouTube videos for songs like Teenage Dream and I Gotta Feeling that the comments are full of 12 year olds saying "I feel so old omg", "I wish I was a teen in that generation", or "The world was a much happier/safer place when these songs came out". And if you go on "Old Disney/Nick/CN" videos, the comments are full of love for stuff like Chowder, Flapjack, iCarly, Wizards of Waverly Place, Good Luck Charlie, and Victorious.

Late 00s/early 10s nostalgia is most certainly upon us, in these dark Trumpeteer times.


The shows themselves are not old, but people acting like they're old makes me feel old.  :-
Yeah, seems that the gaming is finally starting to move forward. The 8th gen didn't progress much from the 7th gen, but as we moved through the 8th gen I've been noticing more and more games with open world or non-linear gameplay aspects. Games that aren't even Open World like Deus Ex Mankind Divided still has a lot of big areas and branching story elements. Add this with the whole VR craze (and whatever else comes up) and I can finally say that gaming is starting to move forward again.


Mass Effect Andromeda flopped big time. Hopefully the late 2010s can put EA out of business. That will be the start of a true neo-golden age.  :-X  :-X :-X :-X

Linear-style games were a huge scrouge in 7th gen gaming. I hated game like Final Fantasy 13, Skyward Sword and even Uncharted ( :-X), and other "press 'A' to win!" games. I loved the exploring in games like the Elder Scrolls or even the Banjo game. ;D I can't wait to get my hands on Breath of Fresh Air!


Gotta admit, I do miss the good ol' days of 2007 when early 2000s nostalgia was confined to small geeky corners of the Internet, rather than being commercialized by millions of idiots on Reddit, Facebook, Buzzfeed, and 9gag who crack unfunny jokes.


That's true. Although I remember the daily Smash Bros. Brawl updates on the official website breaking the Internet every now and then, especially after online play, Snake and Sonic were announced.  :o


To be fair guys... they were actually 5,6, and even 7 during those shows LATER years.
Also, there is a thing called reruns.... people need to stop making these kids shows eras into a club. But unfortunately those "90s kids'' started this BS.


Yeah, my sisters were really into Wizards of Waverly Place, Hannah Montana and Victorious even though they were only 4-8 years old. They had these annoying toys that would start singing if you stepped on em.  >:( Not to mention they had blankets, bed sheets, posters, t-shirts etc. from those shows too. I HATED going to the Disney store.  >:(

Also, you're right about the reruns. In fact, ever since 2008/2009 or so, when those "GO" channels started popping up, you don't even have to catch them on reruns to watch them. They're always available! You just pick what TV show you want to watch, and all the episodes are available at your fingertips. It's not like before where you had to wait for the episode to come on. ;D
I'm just really surprised that 2005 babies are now nostalgic for their own childhood, even though they're still in middle school. By the time I was in middle school (7th and 8th grade to be exact), I did listen to songs made between 1983-2005, since they were something that I could listen to daily.


Well, to be fair, it's not like they're nostalgic for the calendar years. They're just nostalgic for certain items from back then. They'll say "member Katy Perry and Teenage Dream??" not "member 2010??"

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/17 at 4:09 pm


I think this is more of a problem with pop culture. The reason I don't find 2010s culture to be as interesting is due to the fact that instead of making new and interesting/creative things people are instead just trying to recreate stuff from the past. Nostalgia has always been a part of pop culture, but in the 2010s I'd argue that it almost dominates pop culture. Too busy nostalgia pandering or making people relive the same moments they've been through before instead of making some fresh and new. This spiraled out of control and now we have it where people are nostalgia over things that happened 5 years ago. Either that or the current kids/teens just wanna seem cool by saying how modern stuff sucks and how better things were 5+ years ago cause ya know .... "If it's modern then it sucks"  ::).


That makes sense. Nostalgia right now is everywhere to the point where everything at the movies is a reboot or sequel to an existing franchise. I'm not sure how older kids and preteens could get into it, if their first memories were probably 5-10 years ago. I do admit that I was a bit too young to be nostalgic back in 2014, but my childhood memories at the time were 5-12 years ago. Right now, they're about 8-14 years by the time I'm writing this post. 


2005 babies being nostalgia is certainly funny, but I think it's just an example of current pop culture and the retro/nostalgia craze we've been having.


Well yeah. But it's just laughable into thinking that 2005 babies can be nostalgic for their recently ended childhood. That makes their birth year more dated to me.


A copy paste from the almighty Wiki.
So it seems that the nostalgia cycle is getting shorter as we move further into  the late 2010s. Instead of the usual 15-20 years it may just be 5-15 years. I need to look into the reasoning for why the nostalgia cycle is becoming shorter and whether or not will it ever go back to normal. I don't wanna have it where things get worse where people are getting nostalgia over things that happened just 1 year ago.


If we actually get nostalgic over something made a year ago, then that's insane. I can accept being around 10-15 years, but that's about it. Anything under 8 years (at least) is just awkward, and people shouldn't rush it that fast.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/16/17 at 4:33 pm


Too bad the album flopped.  :( I really liked it, but now that I think about it, a lot of the songs in it sounded samey. If you've heard 2 or 3, you've heard the other 5. It was a very short album.

It flopped?!?!?  :o
WWaLxFIVX1s
How could this have happened?!  >:( :( ??? :-\\

Upon looking further into this it seems that the Album was going to initially sell between 125K-175K copies which is actually less than the initially hoped/forcast of  200-225K copies sold. Maybe it's just takes longer to be a wide spread hit or something. I don't know. And from further searching his songs kept placing lower on the charts.

And just like that the dream has died.  :\'( 


Mass Effect Andromeda flopped big time. Hopefully the late 2010s can put EA out of business. That will be the start of a true neo-golden age.  :-X  :-X :-X :-X

Linear-style games were a huge scrouge in 7th gen gaming. I hated game like Final Fantasy 13, Skyward Sword and even Uncharted ( :-X), and other "press 'A' to win!" games. I loved the exploring in games like the Elder Scrolls or even the Banjo game. ;D I can't wait to get my hands on Breath of Fresh Air!


Probably since in the 7th gen devs were too busy trying show you the awesome graphics that they forgot that they had to make a cool and expansive game. FF13 and Skyward Sword were disappointments. People like Uncharted, but I never did see why people loved it so much. Elder Scrolls was awesome, though. People couldn't stop talking about Skyrim for a while.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/16/17 at 5:17 pm


And the first set of them are starting to enter teenhood for real... :o :o :o



I never really thought that 12 year olds could feel old, since today's preteens are born in the mid 2000s. That alone makes me feel old, and I'm only 17. However, I could agree that 2007-2011 are starting to be more dated than they already were.



By the end of this decade, mid 2000s babies would be 13-15 years old. On the top of that, 2003 and 2004 babies would be going to high school in the next two years.


They all already did. Teenhood is adolescence. They have been part of that demographic for the past 1-3 years.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/17 at 5:49 pm


Well, to be fair, it's not like they're nostalgic for the calendar years. They're just nostalgic for certain items from back then. They'll say "member Katy Perry and Teenage Dream??" not "member 2010??"


But it's fairly recent. I remember most of Katy Perry's career like it was yesterday. Even with that, I could just tell that most of her songs remind me of this decade.


They all already did. Teenhood is adolescence. They have been part of that demographic for the past 1-3 years.


Even though they're about 11-13 years old now. Most of them are just preteens, but it's noticeable that they're starting to become teens.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/16/17 at 6:12 pm


Even though they're about 11-13 years old now. Most of them are just preteens, but it's noticeable that they're starting to become teens.
but 11-13 (along with 10) is early adolescence. Besides, the word teenager wasn't common until about the 1950s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 03/16/17 at 6:17 pm


So it seems that the nostalgia cycle is getting shorter as we move further into  the late 2010s. Instead of the usual 15-20 years it may just be 5-15 years. I need to look into the reasoning for why the nostalgia cycle is becoming shorter and whether or not will it ever go back to normal. I don't wanna have it where things get worse where people are getting nostalgia over things that happened just 1 year ago.


I think current events has a lot to do with it.  Politically and culturally, the early '10s seem a lot longer ago than they actually are.  I think music for the most part has been stuck in the same place since 2013 though.  I don't see much nostalgia for the mid '10s, especially since music and fashion aren't really that different yet.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/17 at 6:21 pm


but 11-13 (along with 10) is early adolescence. Besides, the word teenager wasn't common until about the 1950s.


Well, they're most likely to be adolescents. I just said that because it made me feel old, considering I remember late 2004-2006 vividly.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/17 at 6:23 pm


I think current events has a lot to do with it.  Politically and culturally, the early '10s seem a lot longer ago than they actually are.  I think music for the most part has been stuck in the same place since 2013 though.  I don't see much nostalgia for the mid '10s, especially since music and fashion aren't really that different yet.


I don't think anybody seems nostalgic for the mid 2010s, since they're way too recent. Hell, I wouldn't consider the mid 2010s to be great in any way, since people went batsh*t crazy over everything at the time. I couldn't even stand being a teenager by that era.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 03/16/17 at 6:25 pm


I don't think anybody seems nostalgic for the mid 2010s, since they're way too recent. Hell, I wouldn't consider the mid 2010s to be great in any way, since people went batsh*t crazy over everything at the time. I couldn't even stand being a teenager by that era.


I agree.  I really doubt the mid '10s will ever be looked back on that fondly.  In addition to popular culture not being that great, it was basically the era where social, cultural, and political polarization came to a head.  Without the mid '10s, there would be no President Donald Trump.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/16/17 at 6:30 pm

I always saw the peak/main years of adolescent as age 12 to 17, with maybe the first half of age 18.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/16/17 at 6:31 pm


I agree.  I really doubt the mid '10s will ever be looked back on that fondly.  In addition to popular culture not being that great, it was basically the era where social, cultural, and political polarization came to a head.  Without the mid '10s, there would be no President Donald Trump.


People said the same thing about the early-mid 2000s.  :-X

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/17 at 6:33 pm


I agree.  I really doubt the mid '10s will ever be looked back on that fondly.  In addition to popular culture not being that great, it was basically the era where social, cultural, and political polarization came to a head.  Without the mid '10s, there would be no President Donald Trump.


I honestly couldn't think of a lot of things that made the mid 2010s okay. But it would be remembered fondly in 10 years, where everybody could optimize that Obama was our president by 2014-2016.


People said the same thing about the early-mid 2000s.  :-X


Except the early-mid 2000s were actually great in terms of pop culture.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/16/17 at 6:37 pm


I always saw the peak/main years of adolescent as age 12 to 17, with maybe the first half of age 18.


I break my adoloscence into three.

The preteen years (11.5 to ~14th birthday or mid-2004 to end of 2006)
The middle teen years (14 to 16.5ish or 2007 to mid-2009)
The late teen years (16.5 to ~20th birthday or late 2009 to late 2012).

That's just me personally. Everyone grows at different rates and times, so I'm not going to say anything definitive. ;D


Except the early-mid 2000s were actually great in terms of pop culture.


Yeah, no one was saying that back then lol.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/16/17 at 6:42 pm


I break my adoloscence into three.

The preteen years (11.5 to ~14th birthday or mid-2004 to end of 2006)
The middle teen years (14 to 16.5ish or 2007 to mid-2009)
The late teen years (16.5 to ~20th birthday or late 2009 to late 2012).

That's just me personally. Everyone grows at different rates and times, so I'm not going to say anything definitive. ;D

Yeah, no one was saying that back then lol.


I still think music post 1999 is < pre-1999 music. Movies were still awesome in 2000 to 2005, and television was my taste until 2008.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/16/17 at 6:47 pm


I break my adoloscence into three.

The preteen years (11.5 to ~14th birthday or mid-2004 to end of 2006)
The middle teen years (14 to 16.5ish or 2007 to mid-2009)
The late teen years (16.5 to ~20th birthday or late 2009 to late 2012).

That's just me personally. Everyone grows at different rates and times, so I'm not going to say anything definitive. ;D

Yeah, no one was saying that back then lol.


Early adolescent, definitely as early as age 10/11, as late as age 18, to me.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/16/17 at 6:51 pm


I still think music post 1999 is < pre-1999 music. Movies were still awesome in 2000 to 2005, and television was my taste until 2008.


Oh, I meant the politics lol. Someone probably said "I really doubt the early 2000s will be looked on that fondly. The politics were bad etc." only to be surprised 15 years later. Most people back then didn't like the pop culture either, that's one of life's constants.  ;D

I still like movies and TV shows. Have you watched Trailer Park Boys like Al recommended?  :-X

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/17 at 6:52 pm


Yeah, no one was saying that back then lol.


They did on certain circumstances (e.g. YouTube videos).

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/16/17 at 6:56 pm


They did on certain circumstances (e.g. YouTube videos).


Hmm, there wasn't any YouTube in the early 2000s and most the mid 2000s :o

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/16/17 at 6:58 pm


Oh, I meant the politics lol. Someone probably said "I really doubt the early 2000s will be looked on that fondly. The politics were bad etc." only to be surprised 15 years later. Most people back then didn't like the pop culture either, that's one of life's constants.  ;D

I still like movies and TV shows. Have you watched Trailer Park Boys like Al recommended?  :-X


People thought Bush was the anti-Christ, but you weren't aloud to say it, because it got the Dixie Chicks in trouble!  :-X  :-X  :\'(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/16/17 at 7:00 pm


Oh, I meant the politics lol. Someone probably said "I really doubt the early 2000s will be looked on that fondly. The politics were bad etc." only to be surprised 15 years later. Most people back then didn't like the pop culture either, that's one of life's constants.  ;D

I still like movies and TV shows. Have you watched Trailer Park Boys like Al recommended?  :-X


No, not yet.  :(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/17 at 7:00 pm


Hmm, there wasn't any YouTube in the early 2000s and most the mid 2000s :o


I meant when YouTube was starting to get popular by 2006/2007.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/16/17 at 7:10 pm


People thought Bush was the anti-Christ, but you weren't aloud to say it, because it got the Dixie Chicks in trouble!  :-X  :-X  :\'(


I thought he was possessed by the devil! He was the president on 6/6/6.

Same for Tony Blair.


I meant when YouTube was starting to get popular by 2006/2007.


Most people don't like the pop culture of that era even now.  ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/17 at 7:26 pm


Most people don't like the pop culture of that era even now.  ;D


Okay, I don't remember a lot of people hating on late 2000s culture that much. You must've watched a lot of anti-2000s videos back then.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/16/17 at 7:30 pm


Okay, I don't remember a lot of people hating on late 2000s culture that much. You must've watched a lot of anti-2000s videos back then.


Not really. You don't even have to look past this forum: a lot of threads here say things "2006 is when everything went wrong" etc. I'm not saying you're wrong for liking those years, everyone has their preferences and I think that's kool, I'm just saying you'll find a lot of people who hate the era they're living in no matter what year it is. :)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/17 at 7:31 pm


Not really. You don't even have to look past this forum: a lot of threads here say things "2006 is when everything went wrong" etc. I'm not saying you're wrong for liking those years, everyone has their preferences and I think that's kool, I'm just saying a lot of people hate the era they're living in no matter what year it is. :)


I know what you're talking about, especially with people like Zelek. Although, I feel like the 2000s just seemed overhated for a long time. Even though the hate is slowly fading away.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 03/16/17 at 8:03 pm


People said the same thing about the early-mid 2000s.  :-X


And the mid 2000s, unless you are talking about kid culture, are probably the least liked part of that decade.  I've noticed most people have fond memories of the early 2000s and the late 2000s, but the mid 2000s don't get a lot of love from people who were older teenagers or beyond at that time.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/17 at 8:08 pm


And the mid 2000s, unless you are talking about kid culture, are probably the least liked part of that decade.  I've noticed most people have fond memories of the early 2000s and the late 2000s, but the mid 2000s don't get a lot of love from people who were older teenagers or beyond at that time.


Man, no wonder why I loved the mid 2000s. They targeted more towards children than anybody else. Come to think of it, a lot of children's shows at the time were extremely advertised to the point where anybody at my school were fascinated by them.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/16/17 at 8:49 pm


I don't think anybody seems nostalgic for the mid 2010s, since they're way too recent. Hell, I wouldn't consider the mid 2010s to be great in any way, since people went batsh*t crazy over everything at the time. I couldn't even stand being a teenager by that era.

I kinda like the mid 2010s  :( Way more than the early 2010s. But we're still culturally in the mid 2010s, or at least I think we are.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/16/17 at 8:53 pm


People said the same thing about the early-mid 2000s.  :-X

Oh yeah I remember the hate the 2000s got. Give it 10 years and people will look back at the mid 10s fondly. It's just the way it is, people always hate the current era then like it as time goes on.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/16/17 at 8:53 pm


I kinda like the mid 2010s  :( Way more than the early 2010s. But we're still culturally in the mid 2010s, or at least I think we are.


Frankly, the mid 2010s were a tiny bit decent, but not as much as 2010 and 2011 to me.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/16/17 at 9:07 pm


And the mid 2000s, unless you are talking about kid culture, are probably the least liked part of that decade.  I've noticed most people have fond memories of the early 2000s and the late 2000s, but the mid 2000s don't get a lot of love from people who were older teenagers or beyond at that time.


I think it's too early to say. The mid-2000s were only 11-13 years ago, so it hasn't been that long for most people. You hear mostly kid nostalgia because almost everyone loves their childhood. But even from the older crowd, you still hear people looking back fondly on things like MySpace, MSN, iPods, PS2, flip phones, PSPs etc.

I don't like the mid-2000s myself, I'm just saying....... it's inevitable. Give in.  :-X


I kinda like the mid 2010s :( Way more than the early 2010s. But we're still culturally in the mid 2010s, or at least I think we are.


fffffff you can't say that right AFTER it's over! mess! ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/16/17 at 9:31 pm


but 11-13 (along with 10) is early adolescence. Besides, the word teenager wasn't common until about the 1950s.

Eh.. 10 is still you're prime childhood tho. But 11 I agree with definitely! :)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 03/16/17 at 9:35 pm


But we're still culturally in the mid 2010s, or at least I think we are.

Culturally speaking we still kinda are actually... :(  but, numerically we're not. ;)
But, late 2010s culture may not get the ball truly rolling until the summer time hits.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/16/17 at 10:34 pm


Culturally speaking we still kinda are actually... :(  but, numerically we're not. ;)
But, late 2010s culture may not get the ball truly rolling until the summer time hits.


From what history has shown us 2017 has never actually been the start for late era culture. 1997 still felt like core 1990s core and felt close to years like 1995. Wouldn't really get into late 1990s culture until late 1997/1998. 2007 culturally was similar to 2005/2006 as the years of late 2000s culture wouldn't really be in play until around late 2007/2008. I don't expect much us to get into true late 10's culture until around late 2017/2018.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/16/17 at 10:51 pm


From what history has shown us 2017 has never actually been the start for late era culture. 1997 still felt like core 1990s core and felt close to years like 1995. Wouldn't really get into late 1990s culture until late 1997/1998. 2007 culturally was similar to 2005/2006 as the years of late 2000s culture wouldn't really be in play until around late 2007/2008. I don't expect much us to get into true late 10's culture until around late 2017/2018.

I believe the shift will start in the summer and 2017 - 2018 will be a transition period, and we will fully be in a new era by mid 2018. I can't predict the future but I think 2019 will be very different from now.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/16/17 at 11:22 pm


I believe the shift will start in the summer and 2017 - 2018 will be a transition period, and we will fully be in a new era by mid 2018. I can't predict the future but I think 2019 will be very different from now.


Tesla Model 3 comes out in 2018. Just sayin'. That's gonna be my first car.  :D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 03/16/17 at 11:30 pm


Not really. You don't even have to look past this forum: a lot of threads here say things "2006 is when everything went wrong" etc. I'm not saying you're wrong for liking those years, everyone has their preferences and I think that's kool, I'm just saying you'll find a lot of people who hate the era they're living in no matter what year it is. :)


To be completely honest, I have never particularly liked 2000s culture or the decade as a whole. There are a fair few things from the cultural 2000s that I liked/am nostalgic for, but on the same token, there are a lot of things (cultural wise) which I don't like either. It probably doesn't help matters that I experienced my core childhood when ringtone rap was popular and crappy songs such as "My Humps" by The Black Eyes Peas were released. :P

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/16/17 at 11:31 pm

I remember seeing in the summer of 1997, seeing The Lost World: Jurassic Park released, that I felt it was officially the late 90's, at least for me, personally. It was around June.  :o

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Philip Eno on 03/17/17 at 2:12 am


I remember seeing in the summer of 1997, seeing The Lost World: Jurassic Park released, that I felt it was officially the late 90's, at least for me, personally. It was around June.  :o
My son always remembers going to see "The Lost World: Jurassic Park" twice on the opening Saturday.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/17/17 at 3:02 am


To be completely honest, I have never particularly liked 2000s culture or the decade as a whole. There are a fair few things from the cultural 2000s that I liked/am nostalgic for, but on the same token, there are a lot of things (cultural wise) which I don't like either. It probably doesn't help matters that I experienced my core childhood when ringtone rap was popular and crappy songs such as "My Humps" by The Black Eyes Peas were released. :P


Believe or not, this great track is on the same album:

KNnozIkedGQ


I think 2000s culture is super overrated. I think a lot of the people who like 2000s culture on here were kids during that time.

If anyone has a favorite decade outside their childhood/teen years, let me know because you probably have an interesting perspective.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/17/17 at 9:10 am

I thought the 2000s were okay. I never saw it as overrated. In fact that the 2000s has been seeing hate since the year 2000. Overrated is not what I'd call it. Especially since no one talks about how it had the best culture compared to any other decade.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 03/17/17 at 9:12 am


I meant when YouTube was starting to get popular by 2006/2007.


during the later times, YouTube was going through changes.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/17/17 at 9:43 am


I thought the 2000s were okay. I never saw it as overrated. In fact that the 2000s has been seeing hate since the year 2000. Overrated is not what I'd call it. Especially since no one talks about how it had the best culture compared to any other decade.


It might have to deal with how everyone percieves the 90s as the last good decade ever, even though it's been a long time since the decade actually happened.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/17/17 at 9:50 am


It might have to deal with how everyone percieves the 90s as the last good decade ever, even though it's been a long time since the decade actually happened.


I just chalk the 90s as being the "last good decade" as just a product of the nostalgia craze we've been having. Nostalgia makes everything from the past look good. In the 90s people were too busy complaining about the decade and how the 70s/80s was the last good time. What's happening now in the 2010s is nothing more than just the nostalgia cycle taking place. Soon people will say that the 2000s was the last good decade (people have been saying that "X Decade was the last good decade" for the past 3-4 decades now).

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/17/17 at 10:02 am


I just chalk the 90s as being the "last good decade" as just a product of the nostalgia craze we've been having. Nostalgia makes everything from the past look good. In the 90s people were too busy complaining about the decade and how the 70s/80s was the last good time. What's happening now in the 2010s is nothing more than just the nostalgia cycle taking place. Soon people will say that the 2000s was the last good decade (people have been saying that "X Decade was the last good decade" for the past 3-4 decades now).


With that, the 90s were mostly known more about kid nostalgia by the last decade. But it wasn't like how everyone took the 2000s seriously, and then some groups sympathized over the decade a few years later.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/17/17 at 10:15 am


To be completely honest, I have never particularly liked 2000s culture or the decade as a whole. There are a fair few things from the cultural 2000s that I liked/am nostalgic for, but on the same token, there are a lot of things (cultural wise) which I don't like either. It probably doesn't help matters that I experienced my core childhood when ringtone rap was popular and crappy songs such as "My Humps" by The Black Eyes Peas were released. :P


That song was funny at first but then it was replayed way too often.  :-X


I remember seeing in the summer of 1997, seeing The Lost World: Jurassic Park released, that I felt it was officially the late 90's, at least for me, personally. It was around June.  :o


The only time it felt obvious to me that "we are entering a new world" was when 1) the stock market crash happened in late 2008, 2) Arab Spring/Gadaffi getting killed (although that didn't end up changing the world much) and 3) Brexit and then the first homeless president (Trump turned out to be not important, Brexit is still yet to come).


If anyone has a favorite decade outside their childhood/teen years, let me know because you probably have an interesting perspective.


I love the 2010s even though I'm 17-26 this decade :D Although I guess 19-22 can count as childhood since I was going to school and lived with my parents, and the only job I had was on campus.  :-X But it was a happy, drunk, childhood.


I just chalk the 90s as being the "last good decade" as just a product of the nostalgia craze we've been having. Nostalgia makes everything from the past look good. In the 90s people were too busy complaining about the decade and how the 70s/80s was the last good time. What's happening now in the 2010s is nothing more than just the nostalgia cycle taking place. Soon people will say that the 2000s was the last good decade (people have been saying that "X Decade was the last good decade" for the past 3-4 decades now).


Yeah, during the '90s and in the 2000s, a lot of people hated the '90s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/17/17 at 10:42 am


Yeah, during the '90s and in the 2000s, a lot of people hated the '90s.


Unless it was the early 90s, which was quite common to see nostalgia for it back then. Anything after 1993 was most likely to be left out during the 2000s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/17/17 at 11:49 am


Unless it was the early 90s, which was quite common to see nostalgia for it back then. Anything after 1993 was most likely to be left out during the 2000s.


Oh-ho-ho defniitely not  ;D

Maybe if you were a kid. In Ontario though, we call 1990-1995 the "Rae days" and the connotations are very negative. ;D

The recession was really deep, there were race riots, the crime rate and crack epidemic peaked in 1993, there was the Gulf War etc. Although, I guess the fall of the Soviet Union was pretty cool.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/17/17 at 1:24 pm


Oh-ho-ho defniitely not  ;D

Maybe if you were a kid. In Ontario though, we call 1990-1995 the "Rae days" and the connotations are very negative. ;D

The recession was really deep, there were race riots, the crime rate and crack epidemic peaked in 1993, there was the Gulf War etc. Although, I guess the fall of the Soviet Union was pretty cool.


I meant with the Internet's nostalgia with the 80s/early 90s in the mid-late 2000s. Not with what happened in Canada between the early and mid 90s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/17/17 at 11:32 pm

I remember plenty of people hating on the 90s during the 90s: "and in a 90s kind of world, I'm glad I got my girls." The cynicism/pessimism was palpable. I don't remember too many people hating on the 00s during the 00s. The first half was super weird because pop culture was really sunny while politics was shady.

Not that I'm saying there weren't plenty of people who loved the 90s during the 90s and hated the 00s during the 00s. I'm just speaking from experience.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/17/17 at 11:44 pm


Oh-ho-ho defniitely not  ;D

Maybe if you were a kid. In Ontario though, we call 1990-1995 the "Rae days" and the connotations are very negative. ;D

The recession was really deep, there were race riots, the crime rate and crack epidemic peaked in 1993, there was the Gulf War etc. Although, I guess the fall of the Soviet Union was pretty cool.


Ooooh, name calling! Rae days! Ray days! Ray days! Ray days!  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

1990 to 1995 were my English learning days. I didn't know English well until 1997/1998 school year. So I didn't know that gay meant homosexual. I just thought it meant like 'give', 'gary,' or 'games'. Little did I know, I gave the girls and boys in my classes the wrong idea in 2nd grade.  :-[  :-[  :-[  :-X

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/18/17 at 12:29 am


I remember plenty of people hating on the 90s during the 90s: "and in a 90s kind of world, I'm glad I got my girls." The cynicism/pessimism was palpable. I don't remember too many people hating on the 00s during the 00s. The first half was super weird because pop culture was really sunny while politics was shady.

Not that I'm saying there weren't plenty of people who loved the 90s during the 90s and hated the 00s during the 00s. I'm just speaking from experience.


I was too young to remember the '90s hate within the '90s, but I remember a lot of people grouping the 1990s and 2000s together and hating them both during the 2000s.


Ooooh, name calling! Rae days! Ray days! Ray days! Ray days!  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

1990 to 1995 were my English learning days. I didn't know English well until 1997/1998 school year. So I didn't know that gay meant homosexual. I just thought it meant like 'give', 'gary,' or 'games'. Little did I know, I gave the girls and boys in my classes the wrong idea in 2nd grade.  :-[  :-[  :-[  :-X


What did you say? :o

To be fair, I didn't know what gay meant until I was 11. Until then, I just used it as a catch-all insult synonymous with "lame".  :-[

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/18/17 at 1:00 pm


I remember plenty of people hating on the 90s during the 90s: "and in a 90s kind of world, I'm glad I got my girls." The cynicism/pessimism was palpable. I don't remember too many people hating on the 00s during the 00s. The first half was super weird because pop culture was really sunny while politics was shady.

Not that I'm saying there weren't plenty of people who loved the 90s during the 90s and hated the 00s during the 00s. I'm just speaking from experience.


I never did quite understand that myself. During 2000-2004 or so Politics were shady with people criticizing it left and right. Pop culture on the other hand was a bit more cheerful. I know things like politics and economics can leak into the attitude in Pop culture, but during the 1st half of the 00s this wasn't the case. Some say wouldn't be until Bush's 2nd term when pop culture became more cynical/pessimistic. 

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: tv on 03/18/17 at 4:54 pm


I was too young to remember the '90s hate within the '90s, but I remember a lot of people grouping the 1990s and 2000s together and hating them both during the 2000s.

What did you say? :o

To be fair, I didn't know what gay meant until I was 11. Until then, I just used it as a catch-all insult synonymous with "lame".  :-[
I don't remember the 90's being hated in the 00's but I'm sure there were people like that in the 00's. Yes some people did group 1999-2005 in the 90's I think but not so much late 2008 and 2009 into the 90's.

I do remember 00's hate when the decade was going on. I am guilty of it myself!

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/18/17 at 5:18 pm


I don't remember the 90's being hated in the 00's but I'm sure there were people like that in the 00's. Yes some people did group 1999-2005 in the 90's I think but not so much late 2008 and 2009 into the 90's.

I do remember 00's hate when the decade was going on. I am guilty of it myself!

The 1990s were hated on in the early 2000s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: exodus08 on 03/18/17 at 5:48 pm


I don't remember the 90's being hated in the 00's but I'm sure there were people like that in the 00's. Yes some people did group 1999-2005 in the 90's I think but not so much late 2008 and 2009 into the 90's.

I do remember 00's hate when the decade was going on. I am guilty of it myself!

What? People actually grouped 2000- 2005 with 1999 in the 90s? How is that possible?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: exodus08 on 03/18/17 at 5:53 pm

Far as I know the '90s didn't get much hate or love in the '00s. I think people forgot about the decade until '08.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/18/17 at 6:06 pm

In the early-mid 2000s there was a lot of 90s hate from what I remember. 1990s culture was being hated on during the 1990s and a littler after until the late 00s where it started getting love.

As for why people group 2000-2005 with 1999 it's probably due to the fact that 2000s culture can be said to start around that time.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/18/17 at 7:37 pm


Far as I know the '90s didn't get much hate or love in the '00s. I think people forgot about the decade until '08.

The 1990s suffered a backlash in the early to mid 2000s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/18/17 at 7:43 pm


In the early-mid 2000s there was a lot of 90s hate from what I remember. 1990s culture was being hated on during the 1990s and a littler after until the late 00s where it started getting love.

As for why people group 2000-2005 with 1999 it's probably due to the fact that 2000s culture can be said to start around that time.


Maybe they could do the same with the 2000s later this year or next year.  :-\\

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/18/17 at 7:48 pm


Maybe they could do the same with the 2000s later this year or next year.  :-\\

The early 2000s are already getting a lot of love. I think the mid 2000s are as well but it's being lumped with the early part. The nostalgia for the last decade will only get stronger as the years go by.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/18/17 at 8:24 pm


The early 2000s are already getting a lot of love. I think the mid 2000s are as well but it's being lumped with the early part. The nostalgia for the last decade will only get stronger as the years go by.


Well at least it's better than getting it hated.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/18/17 at 9:09 pm

Drake dropped his red hot album! Showing once again that this era belongs to the Commonwealth of Nations. We got Brits (Ed Sheeran and Zayn Malik), Canucks (Drake) and Kiwis (LORDE). When will America and Australia??

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 03/18/17 at 11:45 pm


Drake dropped his red hot album! Showing once again that this era belongs to the Commonwealth of Nations. We got Brits (Ed Sheeran and Zayn Malik), Canucks (Drake) and Kiwis (LORDE). When will America and Australia??


We're too busy trying to mimic the US. :P

Jokes aside, Australia currently doesn't have any artists/bands who could really rise to international fame, in my opinion. A lot of our newest mainstream releases are by relatively "unknown" artists. Check out some of the newest releases;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2pp_ZAk6Uw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8laCbHBOrw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-IoluTnuKs

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: exodus08 on 03/18/17 at 11:48 pm


We're too busy trying to mimic the US. :P

Jokes aside, Australia currently doesn't have any artists/bands who could really rise to international fame, in my opinion. A lot of our newest mainstream releases are by relatively "unknown" artists. Check out some of the newest releases;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2pp_ZAk6Uw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8laCbHBOrw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-IoluTnuKs

Kylie and Savage Garden were the best to come out of Australia.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 03/18/17 at 11:50 pm


Kylie and Savage Garden were the best to come out of Australia.


What about Midnight Oil and AC/DC? ;)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: exodus08 on 03/18/17 at 11:52 pm


What about Midnight Oil and AC/DC? ;)

::) Ok them to.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/19/17 at 12:05 am


We're too busy trying to mimic the US. :P

Jokes aside, Australia currently doesn't have any artists/bands who could really rise to international fame, in my opinion. A lot of our newest mainstream releases are by relatively "unknown" artists. Check out some of the newest releases;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2pp_ZAk6Uw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8laCbHBOrw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-IoluTnuKs


Illy

Iggy

https://68.media.tumblr.com/c54bdc8fa3e7fc0ef43c4db8868276e4/tumblr_nhbr5459vf1twduh2o1_400.gif

I see what you guys are up to. You're not getting that past us again!

Just kidding. The male Iggy wasn't too bad, the rest though...  :-X At least it's not Nickelback I guess.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/19/17 at 1:04 am

I don't know about you all but I'm ready for a Trap Demolition Night.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: exodus08 on 03/19/17 at 1:07 am


I don't know about you all but I'm ready for a Trap Demolition Night.

Are you gonna promote it?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/19/17 at 1:28 am


I never did quite understand that myself. During 2000-2004 or so Politics were shady with people criticizing it left and right. Pop culture on the other hand was a bit more cheerful. I know things like politics and economics can leak into the attitude in Pop culture, but during the 1st half of the 00s this wasn't the case. Some say wouldn't be until Bush's 2nd term when pop culture became more cynical/pessimistic.


Yeah. I never cared for Bush but I supported his battle against Bin Laden, Al Qaeda, and the Taliban. It was when he started campaigning for a war against Iraq that most leftists and I fell out with him. It wasn't until around 2006 that the rest of the country turned against the Bush Administration.

I think the culture became cynical, but not in the 90s kind way. More like in the mid-late 70s kind of way. People got sick of all the politics. I think we're due for something like that again soonish. The political zeitgeist is very grim while pop culture feels dull and tired...even for the mainstream. I think we're reaching a boiling point.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/19/17 at 1:51 am


Kylie and Savage Garden were the best to come out of Australia.


Dude, you guys are having a psychedelic rock explosion. It would be a shame if the next Australian international star was more of the same.

As for Trap Demolition Night...is everyone as exhausted of Trap as I am? It's dominating the 100 on a level I never thought it would. I feel like my efforts to organize a Trap Demolition Night would be in vain.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: exodus08 on 03/19/17 at 2:12 am


Dude, you guys are having a psychedelic rock explosion. It would be a shame if the next Australian international star was more of the same.

As for Trap Demolition Night...is everyone as exhausted of Trap as I am? It's dominating the 100 on a level I never thought it would. I feel like my efforts to organize a Trap Demolition Night would be in vain.

I would love to see Trap dead.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 03/19/17 at 2:25 am




Dude, you guys are having a psychedelic rock explosion. It would be a shame if the next Australian international star was more of the same.


We are, but none of the singles are charting. For instance, Tame Impala's "Let It Happen" only peaked at #84 on the ARIA Singles Chart, even though the album itself peaked at #1. Our Top-40 singles chart is dominated by US Trap and EDM releases. It wouldn't surprise me if the next Australian international star is an EDM artist, unfortunately. :(


Illy

Iggy

https://68.media.tumblr.com/c54bdc8fa3e7fc0ef43c4db8868276e4/tumblr_nhbr5459vf1twduh2o1_400.gif

I see what you guys are up to. You're not getting that past us again!

Just kidding. The male Iggy wasn't too bad, the rest though...  :-X At least it's not Nickelback I guess.


Don't be surprised if in a few years time, there is a new Aussie artist named Izzy or Inny. Then we will have Iggy, Illy and Izzy! :P

I agree with you in regards to Nickelback, although I do wish that there was some rock on the Top-40 charts. Even if it was in the same style as Nickelback or 3 Doors Down, at least it would be something!  :(


I would love to see Trap dead.


I would as well.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: muppethammer26 on 03/19/17 at 10:25 am

In 20 years, we going to have some rappers begging to recreate the "old school" trap sound.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/19/17 at 10:26 am


In 20 years, we going to have some rappers begging to recreate the "old school" trap sound.


In my eyes, trap can never be old. It's just going to be the same modern bullcrap, even if it was made 20 years later.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/19/17 at 11:25 am


In my eyes, trap can never be old. It's just going to be the same modern bullcrap, even if it was made 20 years later.

It will definitely be old in 20 years time. Just as old school 90s hip hop sounds old now.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/19/17 at 12:15 pm


I don't know about you all but I'm ready for a Trap Demolition Night.


How did the last one start?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/19/17 at 12:22 pm


In my eyes, trap can never be old. It's just going to be the same modern bullcrap, even if it was made 20 years later.


Mainstream culture will change. So will the music in the Top 100. Whether or not it turns into something you prefer is the question.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/19/17 at 12:26 pm


How did the last one start?


http://www.cc.com/video-clips/wn3ynw/drunk-history-steve-dahl-s-disco-demolition

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Stillinthe90s on 03/19/17 at 12:37 pm



We are, but none of the singles are charting. For instance, Tame Impala's "Let It Happen" only peaked at #84 on the ARIA Singles Chart, even though the album itself peaked at #1. Our Top-40 singles chart is dominated by US Trap and EDM releases. It wouldn't surprise me if the next Australian international star is an EDM artist, unfortunately. :(

Don't be surprised if in a few years time, there is a new Aussie artist named Izzy or Inny. Then we will have Iggy, Illy and Izzy! :P

I agree with you in regards to Nickelback, although I do wish that there was some rock on the Top-40 charts. Even if it was in the same style as Nickelback or 3 Doors Down, at least it would be something!  :(

I would as well.


AC/DC says rock and roll won't die.

Rock 'n' roll ain't noise pollution
Rock 'n' roll ain't gonna die
Rock 'n' roll ain't noise pollution
Rock 'n' roll it will survive (yes it will)

If AC/DC is right, rock will come back sooner or later, but it seems to have been dead or on life support for about ten years now.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Stillinthe90s on 03/19/17 at 12:47 pm


Yeah. I never cared for Bush but I supported his battle against Bin Laden, Al Qaeda, and the Taliban. It was when he started campaigning for a war against Iraq that most leftists and I fell out with him. It wasn't until around 2006 that the rest of the country turned against the Bush Administration.

I think the culture became cynical, but not in the 90s kind way. More like in the mid-late 70s kind of way. People got sick of all the politics. I think we're due for something like that again soonish. The political zeitgeist is very grim while pop culture feels dull and tired...even for the mainstream. I think we're reaching a boiling point.


After the 60s, people would fall back on popular culture as a way to express angst when the political scene was unsatisfying or life was hard economically. (Grunge in the early 90s popularized logger-chic from the culture of laid off Pacific Northwest workers, for example). Music, especially, was the outlet people turned to when political life was dissatisfying, and this lasted for decades.

Now music is mainstream pop and doesn't have the same edge as the earlier sounds that allowed for self-expression to blow off steam, like rock, disco (to some extent), metal (to some extent), punk, grunge, gangsta rap etc. had. So I don't know what the cultural safety valve could be for growing political dissent. It might not be possible to channel political anger into cultural expression anymore, which was the pattern in place since the 60s.

Popular culture might be too fragmented today for any general expression of a new cultural zeitgeist to arise, since there's thousands of TV channels, millions of youtube channels, and radio isn't thriving anymore. It seems we're in uncharted territory.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/19/17 at 1:21 pm


AC/DC says rock and roll won't die.

Rock 'n' roll ain't noise pollution
Rock 'n' roll ain't gonna die
Rock 'n' roll ain't noise pollution
Rock 'n' roll it will survive (yes it will)

If AC/DC is right, rock will come back sooner or later, but it seems to have been dead or on life support for about ten years now.


The genre has been dead for about five years now. Hopefully, it would be revived soon when the early 2020s come.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 03/19/17 at 4:22 pm


I don't know about you all but I'm ready for a Trap Demolition Night.



Let Steve Dahl promote it.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 03/19/17 at 4:23 pm


In my eyes, trap can never be old. It's just going to be the same modern bullcrap, even if it was made 20 years later.


What the hell is "trap"? ???

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Stillinthe90s on 03/19/17 at 4:37 pm


What the hell is "trap"? ???


I'm wondering the same thing.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/19/17 at 4:41 pm


What the hell is "trap"? ???



I'm wondering the same thing.


"Trap" is a subgenre of hip hop. It's more popular towards teens.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/19/17 at 5:35 pm

I think it's time for trap to die. I'm just surprised people aren't bored with it yet. Has it even reached its peak yet?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/19/17 at 5:49 pm


I think it's time for trap to die. I'm just surprised people aren't bored with it yet. Has it even reached its peak yet?


I don't think anyone (aside from teens) really care about trap.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/19/17 at 5:55 pm


I don't think anyone (aside from teens) really care about trap.

Yeah but it's still doing very well in the charts. I don't know why teens keep buying the songs.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/19/17 at 5:58 pm


Yeah but it's still doing very well in the charts. I don't know why teens keep buying the songs.


Been wondering that myself. I could never get into Trap music. If we're going by EDM influenced genres I'd rather stick to House or Techno. Although the current Electro House craze is killing me.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/19/17 at 6:01 pm

I just watched Beauty and the Beast. It was decent. 7.5/10.


I'm wondering the same thing.


Welcome to the club. I think it's best we stay ignorant.  ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/19/17 at 6:03 pm


Yeah but it's still doing very well in the charts. I don't know why teens keep buying the songs.


They keep buying their songs because it's one of the more popular sub genres of rap. Considering an astonishing rate of teens now don't hear a lot of rock, that alone makes trap more sufficient.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/19/17 at 6:09 pm


I don't think anyone (aside from teens) really care about trap.

Trap rap is most popular amongst people ages 16-25. There are a few trap songs that I like but most of them I don't and it's my least or one of my least favorite genres of rap.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/19/17 at 6:28 pm


Trap rap is most popular amongst people ages 16-25. There are a few trap songs that I like but most of them I don't and it's my least or one of my least favorite genres of rap.


I honestly don't like rap from today. Most of my favorite rap songs come from the late 80s, 90s, and 2000s. Trap is just there to make the genre more modern.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/19/17 at 6:33 pm


I honestly don't like rap from today. Most of my favorite rap songs come from the late 80s, 90s, and 2000s. Trap is just there to make the genre more modern.

Yeah, I feel the same way.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/19/17 at 7:15 pm

We need to go back to the Electro Swing craze of the early '10s.
tvY7Nw1i6Kw

Vid now has 16 million views. In fact a lot of Electro Swing official vids have millions of views. This better be a sign of what's to come. We need more wacky videos like this. Where possessing someone makes them dance with happiness. I gotta learn some dark magic. I can easily see Electro Swing being a mainstream hit. It has mainstream success in the Europe, but not in America for some reason. I assume it's because in Europe certain artists literally made concerts and live performings of their work. That hasn't happened in the US yet. Gotta change that somehow.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/19/17 at 8:01 pm


I honestly don't like rap from today. Most of my favorite rap songs come from the late 80s, 90s, and 2000s. Trap is just there to make the genre more modern.

I like underground rap today. Like Hopsin. And a couple mainstream non-trap rappers like Yelawolf.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/20/17 at 6:05 am


We need to go back to the Electro Swing craze of the early '10s.
tvY7Nw1i6Kw

Vid now has 16 million views. In fact a lot of Electro Swing official vids have millions of views. This better be a sign of what's to come. We need more wacky videos like this. Where possessing someone makes them dance with happiness. I gotta learn some dark magic. I can easily see Electro Swing being a mainstream hit. It has mainstream success in the Europe, but not in America for some reason. I assume it's because in Europe certain artists literally made concerts and live performings of their work. That hasn't happened in the US yet. Gotta change that somehow.


I hope electro swing gets a revival in the very late 2010s/early 2020s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/20/17 at 12:41 pm


I hope electro swing gets a revival in the very late 2010s/early 2020s.

Electro Swing was never popular. I do hope it gets popular some time though.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/20/17 at 12:58 pm

I'm gonna agree with Eric and Slim; it still feels like we're in the mid 2010s. To me, ever since 2014/2015ish, we've been stuck in the exact same evil, miserable, hateful, vapid, fake, divisive, "post-ironic", unfunny, propoganda-filled, Buzzfeed, Tumblr, Stormfront, Reddit, 4chan, identity politics and social media-laden era.

We need a kick in the pants culture wise. We need another psychedelic rock. Another color television. Another Star Wars. Hell, I'd even take another disco. We need something big and bold that would break up the late 10s from years past and give them a distinct feel.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 03/20/17 at 1:08 pm


Electro Swing was never popular. I do hope it gets popular some time though.


I liked electro-swing but I agree that it has always been a niche genre.  Swing revivals have never been successful at gaining mainstream popularity.  The closest it ever came was in the late '90s and that didn't last very long.

I wish dubstep would have had a lot more staying power.  It seemed to be everywhere in 2011 and 2012 but fell out of favor relatively quickly.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: exodus08 on 03/20/17 at 1:14 pm


I'm gonna agree with Eric and Slim; it still feels like we're in the mid 2010s. To me, ever since 2014/2015ish, we've been stuck in the exact same evil, miserable, hateful, vapid, fake, divisive, "post-ironic", unfunny, propoganda-filled, Buzzfeed, Tumblr, Stormfront, Reddit, 4chan, identity politics and social media-laden era.

We need a kick in the pants culture wise. We need another psychedelic rock. Another color television. Another Star Wars. Hell, I'd even take another disco. We need something big and bold that would break up the late 10s from years past and give them a distinct feel.

We need to be in a post war decade to be happy.  Examples of post war decades: 1920s (ww1), 1950s (ww2) & 1990s (Cold War).

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/20/17 at 1:16 pm


"Trap" is a subgenre of hip hop. It's more popular towards teens.



I think it's time for trap to die. I'm just surprised people aren't bored with it yet. Has it even reached its peak yet?



I don't think anyone (aside from teens) really care about trap.



Trap rap is most popular amongst people ages 16-25. There are a few trap songs that I like but most of them I don't and it's my least or one of my least favorite genres of rap.
Yeah, I hope it disappears soon as well. I've listen to the sub-genre on my Pandora (since the stations I play have those tracks) and the rappers don't make any sense at all. It makes me wonder how is this even popular. Luckily, some rappers haven't fell for that trap ;D :D, and are are doing their own thing.


I'm gonna agree with Eric and Slim; it still feels like we're in the mid 2010s. To me, ever since 2014/2015ish, we've been stuck in the exact same evil, miserable, hateful, vapid, fake, divisive, "post-ironic", unfunny, propoganda-filled, Buzzfeed, Tumblr, Stormfront, Reddit, 4chan, identity politics and social media-laden era.

We need a kick in the pants culture wise. We need another psychedelic rock. Another color television. Another Star Wars. Hell, I'd even take another disco. We need something big and bold that would break up the late 10s from years past and give them a distinct feel.
Trust me, it will happen soon. Maybe it's because it's still the beginning of the year although April is approaching. I think by May, the culture will change especially since summer will be closer, and it's when most people are finished with school for the year.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/20/17 at 1:40 pm


Trust me, it will happen soon. Maybe it's because it's still the beginning of the year although April is approaching. I think by May, the culture will change especially since summer will be closer, and it's when most people are finished with school for the year.

You're just saying that to be optimistic. :P I remember around 2009, people were predicting how the 2010s would be a "less-vapid decade where people will abandon social media" and look how that turned out. ::)

Face it man, everything since 2014/2015 is the same and our culture is so sh*tty and stagnant now that it's going to feel the same as 2014/2015 forever and ever until the end of time. Game over man, game over.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: mxcrashxm on 03/20/17 at 1:47 pm


You're just saying that to be optimistic. :P I remember around 2009, people were predicting how the 2010s would be a "less-vapid decade where people will abandon social media" and look how that turned out. ::)

Face it man, everything since 2014/2015 is the same and our culture is so sh*tty and stagnant now that it's going to feel the same as 2014/2015 forever and ever until the end of time. Game over man, game over.
Don't give up hope. It will change. Besides, we're towards the end of the 10s and that's when things tend to change away from the current. Furthermore, the early 00s is making a comeback in some way as well. At least this year is much better than last year that's for sure. 

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/20/17 at 1:49 pm


You're just saying that to be optimistic. :P I remember around 2009, people were predicting how the 2010s would be a "less-vapid decade where people will abandon social media" and look how that turned out. ::)

Face it man, everything since 2014/2015 is the same and our culture is so sh*tty and stagnant now that it's going to feel the same as 2014/2015 forever and ever until the end of time. Game over man, game over.


Everything has been the same since 2012. There's no way in hell it could have the same cheerful atmosphere as 2010 and 2011 with the Aurora movie theater and Sandy Hook elementary shootings, the Treyvon Martin murder (which sparked BLM), and so many BS on the end of the world. Everything since that year was followed with its hollow and miserable atmosphere.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/20/17 at 1:52 pm


You're just saying that to be optimistic. :P I remember around 2009, people were predicting how the 2010s would be a "less-vapid decade where people will abandon social media" and look how that turned out. ::)

Face it man, everything since 2014/2015 is the same and our culture is so sh*tty and stagnant now that it's going to feel the same as 2014/2015 forever and ever until the end of time. Game over man, game over.


It's time to accept fate. Buy a pair of skinnies and learn to love this T***p errar! If I can do it so can you. ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/20/17 at 2:49 pm


Don't give up hope. It will change. Besides, we're towards the end of the 10s and that's when things tend to change away from the current. Furthermore, the early 00s is making a comeback in some way as well. At least this year is much better than last year that's for sure.

I agree 2017 is way better than 2016. Even the the drama with Trump is starting to settle down now, just as long as he doesn't keep doing stupid things.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 03/20/17 at 3:07 pm


Everything has been the same since 2012. There's no way in hell it could have the same cheerful atmosphere as 2010 and 2011 with the Aurora movie theater and Sandy Hook elementary shootings, the Treyvon Martin murder (which sparked BLM), and so many BS on the end of the world. Everything since that year was followed with its hollow and miserable atmosphere.


I agree with this.  2012 seemed to be the turning point to the darker, miserable atmosphere that has dominated most of the '10s so far.  Looking back, I wonder if I will ever again experience the kind of excitement and fulfillment I had in life during the 2009-11 era.  What I would give to go back.

I think the '10s so far have a lot of parallels to the 1960s.  The '60s started out as an innocent, blissful decade.  It was a lot like the 1950s except not as rigid or dogmatic.  After the JFK assassination, cultural tensions blew up.  As the decade moved on, it seemed like culture and American society was completely coming apart, with race riots and anti-war riots.  The decade ended with a regressive, corrupt "law and order" candidate being elected President.  I think I would have loved the early '60s but not so much the late '60s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/20/17 at 3:19 pm


I agree with this.  2012 seemed to be the turning point to the darker, miserable atmosphere that has dominated most of the '10s so far.  Looking back, I wonder if I will ever again experience the kind of excitement and fulfillment I had in life during the 2009-11 era.  What I would give to go back.


Same. Except I would rather relive the mid-late 2000s.


I think the '10s so far have a lot of parallels to the 1960s.  The '60s started out as an innocent, blissful decade.  It was a lot like the 1950s except not as rigid or dogmatic.  After the JFK assassination, cultural tensions blew up.  As the decade moved on, it seemed like culture and American society was completely coming apart, with race riots and anti-war riots.  The decade ended with a regressive, corrupt "law and order" candidate being elected President.  I think I would have loved the early '60s but not so much the late '60s.


The 60s-early 70s seem more screwed up than the 2010s as a whole. Add to the fact that most of the decade was spent on rioting and civil rights attacks, almost everyone was f*cked.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/20/17 at 3:21 pm


Everything has been the same since 2012. There's no way in hell it could have the same cheerful atmosphere as 2010 and 2011 with the Aurora movie theater and Sandy Hook elementary shootings, the Treyvon Martin murder (which sparked BLM), and so many BS on the end of the world. Everything since that year was followed with its hollow and miserable atmosphere.

But 2014 and especially 2015 are when social justice, alt-right, extreme identity politics, and things like that began taking hold. Id agree though, that 2012-2013 were the "transitional" years between early 2010s buoyancy and mid-2010s misery.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/20/17 at 3:25 pm

You guys should just move to Canada. It's really chill here. No one takes BLM seriously but the police aren't murderous to begin with. My city of 200,000 has only had two murders since 2012. And legal weed! (not yet though... #FreeMarkEmery!)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/20/17 at 3:28 pm

Weed turns good people into narcissistic degenerates.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/20/17 at 3:30 pm


Weed turns good people into narcissistic degenerates.


Source? I would have thought it would be the other way around.  :-X

A Jeff Sessions tea.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/20/17 at 3:39 pm


But 2014 and especially 2015 are when social justice, alt-right, extreme identity politics, and things like that began taking hold. Id agree though, that 2012-2013 were the "transitional" years between early 2010s buoyancy and mid-2010s misery.

2012 was not a transitional year. 2013 was though.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/20/17 at 3:44 pm

In early 2012 there were MRAs (men's rights activist) on my campus. Those guys are proto-alt-right, they can't get laid and blame women for their problems lol. People told me they were there the previous year too, though, so it's definitely a pre-2012 thing.

Overall, I felt 2011-12 was the most politically contentious year in my university career, because we got Occupy, 2012 student protests, and a lot of feminist/MRA protests on campus too. There was the 2012 Gaza war as well.

On the other hand, social media wasn't as important. I notice a lot of people a few years younger than me complain a lot about Tumblr and SJWs and stuff, while I find it hard to care about what happens on Tumblr or 4chan, until it starts affecting real life (which seems to happen more often). 2010-2012 saw more on-the-street political action.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/20/17 at 4:52 pm


But 2014 and especially 2015 are when social justice, alt-right, extreme identity politics, and things like that began taking hold. Id agree though, that 2012-2013 were the "transitional" years between early 2010s buoyancy and mid-2010s misery.


2014 and 2015 was when things started to get worse. It showed no hope for the decade to be optimistic, as it had very dark moments for the world.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/20/17 at 5:58 pm


You guys should just move to Canada. It's really chill here. No one takes BLM seriously but the police aren't murderous to begin with. My city of 200,000 has only had two murders since 2012. And legal weed! (not yet though... #FreeMarkEmery!)


- 2 Deaths murders over the past 5 years
- Almost legal weed

Me after getting my passport to Canada
http://i.imgur.com/NzBuR0A.jpg?1

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/20/17 at 6:19 pm


- 2 Deaths murders over the past 5 years
- Almost legal weed

Me after getting my passport to Canada
http://i.imgur.com/NzBuR0A.jpg?1


As long as the baby isn't getting drugs, it's all fine and good.  :)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/20/17 at 6:20 pm


In early 2012 there were MRAs (men's rights activist) on my campus. Those guys are proto-alt-right, they can't get laid and blame women for their problems lol. People told me they were there the previous year too, though, so it's definitely a pre-2012 thing.

Overall, I felt 2011-12 was the most politically contentious year in my university career, because we got Occupy, 2012 student protests, and a lot of feminist/MRA protests on campus too. There was the 2012 Gaza war as well.

On the other hand, social media wasn't as important. I notice a lot of people a few years younger than me complain a lot about Tumblr and SJWs and stuff, while I find it hard to care about what happens on Tumblr or 4chan, until it starts affecting real life (which seems to happen more often). 2010-2012 saw more on-the-street political action.


When did the whole SJW movement become big??

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/20/17 at 6:30 pm


When did the whole SJW movement become big??


Late 2008 for sure LOL. That's when Prop-8 was happening in California. My school still had a lot of homophobes back then who got to show their asses (figuratively) on social media. The SJWs at my school gave them their piece of mind. ;D

As a gay guy I was really happy.  :-X 2007-2008 school year was still very homophobic, and that's in downtown Toronto! 2008-2009 was getting better, but still very unacceptable, I was suicidal that whole year. But 2009-2010 was the promised land! The SJWs made the world a better place.  :-X

I think it's worse when you get dogpiled on by anonymous people online though. In the late 2000s at least you were getting censured by people you knew. ;D I think the former started happening more around 2013 when Twitter took off. There aren't that many SJWs on Facebook.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 03/20/17 at 6:39 pm


Late 2008 for sure LOL. That's when Prop-8 was happening in California. My school still had a lot of homophobes back then who got to show their asses (figuratively) on social media. The SJWs at my school gave them their piece of mind. ;D

As a gay guy I was really happy.  :-X 2007-2008 school year was still very homophobic, and that's in downtown Toronto! 2008-2009 was getting better, but still very unacceptable, I was suicidal that whole year. But 2009-2010 was the promised land! The SJWs made the world a better place.  :-X

I think it's worse when you get dogpiled on by anonymous people online though. In the late 2000s at least you were getting censured by people you knew. ;D I think the former started happening more around 2013 when Twitter took off. There aren't that many SJWs on Facebook.


From my experience, Facebook today is a bastion of the alt-right and anti-SJWs.

I miss Facebook when it was cool.  I remember it was a thing when dating somebody to make it "Facebook official."  Today, the less personal information I have on Facebook the better.  It also seems like you don't see many people uploading stuff like pics and videos to their timelines anymore.  It's almost entirely a realm of sharing political/news articles with most of them being fake.

Sorry to hear that the 2008-09 school year was so bad for you regarding homophobia.  The '00s in general were quite homophobic if you were in school.  'Gay' was something that no guy would want to be and straight guys had to make sure they didn't do anything that looked gay, unless they were jocks and then they could just say "no homo" and it suddenly wasn't gay.  I was out of the closet myself in 2009 and 2010.  There was a freedom to those years that I haven't known since and might never know again.  Then, my extremely homophobic family started manipulating me first back into the closet, secondly into moving back to my conservative hometown, and third into gay-to-straight therapy.  That happened in the second half of 2012, which basically began the mid '10s for me.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/20/17 at 7:09 pm


From my experience, Facebook today is a bastion of the alt-right and anti-SJWs.

I miss Facebook when it was cool.  I remember it was a thing when dating somebody to make it "Facebook official."  Today, the less personal information I have on Facebook the better.  It also seems like you don't see many people uploading stuff like pics and videos to their timelines anymore.  It's almost entirely a realm of sharing political/news articles with most of them being fake.

Sorry to hear that the 2008-09 school year was so bad for you regarding homophobia.  The '00s in general were quite homophobic if you were in school.  'Gay' was something that no guy would want to be and straight guys had to make sure they didn't do anything that looked gay, unless they were jocks and then they could just say "no homo" and it suddenly wasn't gay.  I was out of the closet myself in 2009 and 2010.  There was a freedom to those years that I haven't known since and might never know again.  Then, my extremely homophobic family started manipulating me first back into the closet, secondly into moving back to my conservative hometown, and third into gay-to-straight therapy.  That happened in the second half of 2012, which basically began the mid '10s for me.


THIS. THIS, ladies and gentlemen, was/is why the Social Justice Movement became big. I will admit, I kind of find them annoying, but stories like this is why the Left became pushier in their views. Because the Right was pushy in their views first. The Right had decades to be less close-minded and bigoted, but they didn't. And they wonder why the Left became pushy!  ::)  ::)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/20/17 at 8:39 pm


THIS. THIS, ladies and gentlemen, was/is why the Social Justice Movement became big. I will admit, I kind of find them annoying, but stories like this is why the Left became pushier in their views. Because the Right was pushy in their views first. The Right had decades to be less close-minded and bigoted, but they didn't. And they wonder why the Left became pushy!  ::)  ::)


https://68.media.tumblr.com/a6b050f46c6b36fd26c6181d1b746e33/tumblr_ob2ttorf8M1spjzfzo1_500.gif

I'm pretty sure the SJW movement started when a bunch of "feminists" started to think that women don't have that much equal rights, even though they still have. You call me all you want with this issue, but in my honest opinion, that movement is EXACTLY why Trump got elected. Everyone went batsh*t crazy (and by that, I meant Hillary-supporting Democrats), who thought she would give women MORE rights, even though that's not really the case for her. Now ever since Trump got elected, they've been protesting about getting rid of Trump, even though none of their protests seem to actually work.

I hope that was legit sarcasm, because I honestly think homophobia from the 2000s didn't exactly make the movement we all know from Tumblr.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/20/17 at 8:45 pm


https://68.media.tumblr.com/a6b050f46c6b36fd26c6181d1b746e33/tumblr_ob2ttorf8M1spjzfzo1_500.gif

I'm pretty sure the SJW movement started when a bunch of "feminists" started to think that women don't have that much equal rights, even though they still have. You call me all you want with this issue, but in my honest opinion, that movement is EXACTLY why Trump got elected. Everyone went batsh*t crazy (and by that, I meant Hillary-supporting Democrats), who thought she would give women MORE rights, even though that's not really the case for her. Now ever since Trump got elected, they've been protesting about getting rid of Trump, even though none of their protests seem to actually work.

I hope that was legit sarcasm, because I honestly think homophobia from the 2000s didn't exactly make the movement we all know from Tumblr.

Just a question, what is your opinion of Donald Trump?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/20/17 at 8:52 pm


Just a question, what is your opinion of Donald Trump?


I really don't like him. At best, he's not really a great president. Even if he got elected for a few legit reasons, he never seemed like one that could easily replace Obama. Obama (at least in his first term) seemed more courageous and actually did change America. He even hunted down Bin Laden (which Bush Jr. never did in his whole presidency). Trump on the other hand just seems like he's going to do something very wrong, to the point where everybody thinks he's going to start the apocalypse. I don't want that stuff in my head, since I just want don't to think about it really soon. But for now, I just think about this from best to worst.

1. Obama (from his first term)
2. '43 Bush (George W. Bush)
3. Donald Trump

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/20/17 at 9:29 pm


https://68.media.tumblr.com/a6b050f46c6b36fd26c6181d1b746e33/tumblr_ob2ttorf8M1spjzfzo1_500.gif

I'm pretty sure the SJW movement started when a bunch of "feminists" started to think that women don't have that much equal rights, even though they still have. You call me all you want with this issue, but in my honest opinion, that movement is EXACTLY why Trump got elected. Everyone went batsh*t crazy (and by that, I meant Hillary-supporting Democrats), who thought she would give women MORE rights, even though that's not really the case for her. Now ever since Trump got elected, they've been protesting about getting rid of Trump, even though none of their protests seem to actually work.

I hope that was legit sarcasm, because I honestly think homophobia from the 2000s didn't exactly make the movement we all know from Tumblr.

It isn't sarcasm. I agree with Slowpoke. Something always brings movements and inequality and homophobia are why SJWs came to the picture.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/20/17 at 9:38 pm


I really don't like him. At best, he's not really a great president. Even if he got elected for a few legit reasons, he never seemed like one that could easily replace Obama. Obama (at least in his first term) seemed more courageous and actually did change America. He even hunted down Bin Laden (which Bush Jr. never did in his whole presidency). Trump on the other hand just seems like he's going to do something very wrong, to the point where everybody thinks he's going to start the apocalypse. I don't want that stuff in my head, since I just want don't to think about it really soon. But for now, I just think about this from best to worst.

1. Obama (from his first term)
2. '43 Bush (George W. Bush)
3. Donald Trump

Interesting, I actually agree with you. Spot on.  :D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/20/17 at 9:39 pm


It isn't sarcasm. I agree with Slowpoke. Something always brings movements and inequality and homophobia are why SJWs came to the picture.

True.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/20/17 at 9:43 pm


It isn't sarcasm. I agree with Slowpoke. Something always brings movements and inequality and homophobia are why SJWs came to the picture.


That post was made by 90sBreath, not Slowpoke. Although with that post, Slowpoke could easily agree with it. SJWs were already there because they think everyone that aren't like them should be dealt with harsh punishments. They also tend to be more unequal with straight white males who had no problem with them before.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/20/17 at 10:15 pm


That post was made by 90sBreath, not Slowpoke. Although with that post, Slowpoke could easily agree with it. SJWs were already there because they think everyone that aren't like them should be dealt with harsh punishments. They also tend to be more unequal with straight white males who had no problem with them before.

Oh sorry I misread it. I agree that SJWs are extreme but something had to trigger it. It didn't just come out of thin air. It was because people were being treated unfairly so the fight for social justice came along, which is good, but then it just went too extreme.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/20/17 at 10:36 pm


https://68.media.tumblr.com/a6b050f46c6b36fd26c6181d1b746e33/tumblr_ob2ttorf8M1spjzfzo1_500.gif

I'm pretty sure the SJW movement started when a bunch of "feminists" started to think that women don't have that much equal rights, even though they still have. You call me all you want with this issue, but in my honest opinion, that movement is EXACTLY why Trump got elected. Everyone went batsh*t crazy (and by that, I meant Hillary-supporting Democrats), who thought she would give women MORE rights, even though that's not really the case for her. Now ever since Trump got elected, they've been protesting about getting rid of Trump, even though none of their protests seem to actually work.

I hope that was legit sarcasm, because I honestly think homophobia from the 2000s didn't exactly make the movement we all know from Tumblr.


Do you think their Social Justice Nazis?? Feminazis??  ;D  ;D  :-X  :(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/20/17 at 10:38 pm


From my experience, Facebook today is a bastion of the alt-right and anti-SJWs.

I miss Facebook when it was cool.  I remember it was a thing when dating somebody to make it "Facebook official."  Today, the less personal information I have on Facebook the better.  It also seems like you don't see many people uploading stuff like pics and videos to their timelines anymore.  It's almost entirely a realm of sharing political/news articles with most of them being fake.

Sorry to hear that the 2008-09 school year was so bad for you regarding homophobia.  The '00s in general were quite homophobic if you were in school.  'Gay' was something that no guy would want to be and straight guys had to make sure they didn't do anything that looked gay, unless they were jocks and then they could just say "no homo" and it suddenly wasn't gay.  I was out of the closet myself in 2009 and 2010.  There was a freedom to those years that I haven't known since and might never know again.  Then, my extremely homophobic family started manipulating me first back into the closet, secondly into moving back to my conservative hometown, and third into gay-to-straight therapy.  That happened in the second half of 2012, which basically began the mid '10s for me.


Yeah, I've been avoiding Facebook since 2013/2014. It's been flooded with conspiracy theory junk and outrage videos for a long time now.

I'm atheist-praying for you. It's just cruel that in 2017, no matter what town you're living in, that you have to face prejudice like that.  I wish I could do more than just say kind words...  :\'(

I don't really know how things work in the US. But in hospitals or public libraries, do you guys have social care workers, or things like that? They usually hook people up with affordable housing units in big cities, and other social programs like that. I don't know if they would give it to LGBT people in red states though. I hate giving advice like this because I'm afraid of getting a "you think I didn't think of that?" type responses or some people don't want advice, but I felt the need to say something. I apologize in advance if it was bad/unwanted advice.  :-X

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/20/17 at 10:40 pm

Don't worry, bchris02, there's always hope!

http://www.karenduncanflanagan.com/uploads/4/3/6/3/4363049/6949386_1_orig.jpg

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 03/20/17 at 11:12 pm


THIS. THIS, ladies and gentlemen, was/is why the Social Justice Movement became big. I will admit, I kind of find them annoying, but stories like this is why the Left became pushier in their views. Because the Right was pushy in their views first. The Right had decades to be less close-minded and bigoted, but they didn't. And they wonder why the Left became pushy!  ::)  ::)


I agree.  Since 9/11, the Christian Right have become far more pushy than they used to be.  Gay marriage was actually the deciding factor in the 2004 election for George Bush.  Not the war, terrorism, national security, the economy (which still hadn't totally recovered from the 2001 recession) etc, but gay marriage. 

As a response, the left has to get a lot more pushy like you said.  There has always been that element in the Democratic Party but it started to become more prominent in the late 2000s.  I think the tipping point was the SCOTUS decision striking down DOMA and Prop 8 on June 26, 2013.  This started the state by state court battle that ended with the Obergefell decision in 2015.  Summer 2013 was around the time that tensions really started to wise between the SJWs on the left and the Christian Right or anti-SJWs on the right.  The previous major wave of activism, the Tea Party and Occupy, were more centered around economic issues than social issues.  Other SJW movements related to other causes, like BLM, started around that time as well.

I think the real issues with the SJW movement currently is that they emphasize the wrong issues.  I personally think that transgender bathrooms are a fight for another time.  I think what is needed is national civil liberties protections, adding sexual orientation to the national list of protected classes.  I think employment and housing discrimination should be banned nationwide.  In addition, I would like to see hate crimes laws nationwide, anti-bullying programs in schools, and some kind of system to remove tax exempt status from excessively homophobic churches (like Westboro or Steven Anderson's church in Arizona).  I also think conversion therapy for minors should be targeted.  In addition, I think parents who kick their gay kids to the street should face criminal charges.  These are still real issues in the LGBT community and we don't hear a lot of focus on them.  Instead, we are talking about transgender bathrooms, which inflames the right far more than discussing these other issues would.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/20/17 at 11:45 pm

Chris, I see what you're saying I totally agree with it, and I think millions of other people would agree too (figures like Milo Yiannopoulos haven't gotten popular in the past three years for no reason).

But the left will never listen to what we have to say. They will just keep digging their graves until the dirt caves in and suffocates them all to death. Instead of regrouping, realizing their mistakes this past-decade, and strategizing on how to improve our nation, they throw passive-aggressive temper tantrums like "#NotMyPresident" or "lol DRUMPF" or "#StillWithHer!!!!!" when things don't go their way.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/21/17 at 12:04 am


Chris, I see what you're saying I totally agree with it, and I think millions of other people would agree too (figures like Milo Yiannopoulos haven't gotten popular in the past three years for no reason).

But the left will never listen to what we have to say. They will just keep digging their graves until the dirt caves in and suffocates them all to death. Instead of regrouping, realizing their mistakes this past-decade, and strategizing on how to improve our nation, they throw passive-aggressive temper tantrums like "#NotMyPresident" or "lol DRUMPF" or "#StillWithHer!!!!!" when things don't go their way.


Politics will always seesaw from one extreme, to the next, over time. But yeah, Trump happened, to a certain extent, because of the looney, over-the-top, accusatory, Social Justice Warriors, movement! They didn't help themselves by becoming extreme themselves. The way they communcate doesn't help, especially when it's in a demonizing tone.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 03/21/17 at 12:10 am


Politics will always seesaw from one extreme, to the next, over time. But yeah, Trump happened, to a certain extent, because of the crazy, looney, over-the-top, accusatory, Social Justice Warriors, movement! They didn't help themselves by becoming extreme themselves. The way they communcate doesn't help, especially when it's in an accusatory, demonizing, haughty, tone.


I agree.  The far-left helped create Trump by taking things way overboard and Middle America decided that enough is enough.  Living in a small, Southern town, I understand the Trump voter and their mindset.  I don't agree with it, but I get why they voted for him.  I also get why they are acting the way they are right now.  Their primary goal is simply to spite SJWs.  Public policy and its effectiveness is secondary to that.  That's why absolutely everything Trump has done has been an attack on issues that are dear to the SJW movement, whether that's LGBT issues, the environment, or immigration (it looks like he's even going to go after marijuana, which I think is a bad move).  It really is scary times we are living in and I sometimes wonder if we are inching towards a second civil war. A "great sort" is currently happening which will further polarize red and blue America.

Note that I am sympathetic to SJWs because I agree with some of their causes, but their tactics hurt the cause more than help it.  They are basically playing the same game the Christian Right has played since the 1980s.  As everybody can see, that has created a resentment of conservative Christianity in our culture that didn't used to be there.  Social change has to come gradually and people don't like to be bullied into thinking a certain way.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/21/17 at 5:35 am


Do you think their Social Justice Nazis?? Feminazis??  ;D  ;D  :-X  :(


I honestly don't think they're any kind of Nazi in the book. They're more like hypocrites who seem to scream about progressive rights, even though most of their goals were already set by Congress.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 03/21/17 at 5:57 am


Weed turns good people into narcissistic degenerates.



and I smell it where I work.  8-P

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/21/17 at 9:08 am

The US is a super religious country. Even if they don't go to church they still believe in it and it influences their moral values, and a lot of the culture is influenced by the value system. I won't pretend to understand it because it's not meant to be understood. It's meant to believed in "with faith" LOL

Religion is the cause of much unnecessary pain and suffering in this world.  :-X I think one of the reasons Canada and many European countries are great while much of the rest of world are not is indeed secularism and religious-neutrality/laïcité. It's definitely value that I think we should safeguard and continue to teach people why it's important.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/21/17 at 10:56 am


The US is a super religious country. Even if they don't go to church they still believe in it and it influences their moral values, and a lot of the culture is influenced by the value system. I won't pretend to understand it because it's not meant to be understood. It's meant to believed in "with faith" LOL

Religion is the cause of much unnecessary pain and suffering in this world.  :-X I think one of the reasons Canada and many European countries are great while much of the rest of world are not is indeed secularism and religious-neutrality/laïcité. It's definitely value that I think we should safeguard and continue to teach people why it's important.


I pray that you find Jesus!  >:(  :)  :)

I'm just kidding. Religion is very rigid, and I'm too overweight to fit into their rigid pants.  :(

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/21/17 at 11:29 am


I pray that you find Jesus!  >:(  :)  :)

I'm just kidding. Religion is very rigid, and I'm too overweight to fit into their rigid pants.  :(


I fall into Deism. I believe in the existence of a creator that started our universe, but not necessarily the gods that other religions believe. Although Deism in itself isn't really a religion. To me it's somewhere between being an atheist (not believing in any higher force) and being religious (believing the existence of a higher force(s)). Deism doesn't believe in the god(s) that other religions believe in like Atheism, but it does believe in the existence of a god.

However, with all this said I'm still respect everyone's religions or lack thereof despite not following them.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 80sfan on 03/21/17 at 12:24 pm


I fall into Deism. I believe in the existence of a creator that started our universe, but not necessarily the gods that other religions believe. Although Deism in itself isn't really a religion. To me it's somewhere between being an atheist (not believing in any higher force) and being religious (believing the existence of a higher force(s)). Deism doesn't believe in the god(s) that other religions believe in like Atheism, but it does believe in the existence of a god.

However, with all this said I'm still respect everyone's religions or lack thereof despite not following them.


I never heard of this until now. I should read on it more.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 03/21/17 at 1:07 pm


The US is a super religious country. Even if they don't go to church they still believe in it and it influences their moral values, and a lot of the culture is influenced by the value system. I won't pretend to understand it because it's not meant to be understood. It's meant to believed in "with faith" LOL

Religion is the cause of much unnecessary pain and suffering in this world.  :-X I think one of the reasons Canada and many European countries are great while much of the rest of world are not is indeed secularism and religious-neutrality/laïcité. It's definitely value that I think we should safeguard and continue to teach people why it's important.


Yep, screw religion! I've been to a school where those who were in religious backgrounds, regardless of whether they identified as religious or not, were pretty mainstream and annoying. The more interesting people who were not into as mainstream interests were so much more fun, and they were from places where religion didn't seem to matter.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: wixness on 03/21/17 at 1:15 pm

Also, I'm gonna completely lose faith in humanity next decade if they don't bring back emo or long hair on guys or otherwise blur genders even further. The fact that they made short hair on guys fashionable again was how they reestablished gender norms this decade. I've already decided I should become a misanthropist on Personality Cafe, but I thought I'd give it just this last chance.

This was fashionable last decade:

http://i.imgur.com/x48aVOO.png
(shown to me at a lecture on audio synthesis)

Speaking of which, my hair's sorta like that because I can't grow it any longer, but I refuse to have it cut.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/21/17 at 1:43 pm


I fall into Deism. I believe in the existence of a creator that started our universe, but not necessarily the gods that other religions believe. Although Deism in itself isn't really a religion. To me it's somewhere between being an atheist (not believing in any higher force) and being religious (believing the existence of a higher force(s)). Deism doesn't believe in the god(s) that other religions believe in like Atheism, but it does believe in the existence of a god.

However, with all this said I'm still respect everyone's religions or lack thereof despite not following them.


I went from being religious/gnostic theist, to reformist/liberal theism, to deism, to apatheism, to finally stop making excuses for myself and accepting atheism. ;D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HeyJealousy on 03/21/17 at 4:44 pm

You might can call me crazy, but I can see punk making a major comeback in some way by the mid-2020s. That, grunge and glam metal.
My predictions are:c
This will be the last official year (culturally) of the 2010s. Teen pop, EDM, trap rap, Arianna Grande, all the despised (and relished) elements of 2010s culture might not be here for long. 2018-2021 will be transitional years that will mark the transition from hipster/teen-pop/EDM 2010s to the punky/grungy/techy 2020s. There will be major political tensions, not between SJWs and Alt Right-wingers though, they will come in a different form and possess a different name brand. And it won't be over matters like gay marriage (a settled issue, hopefully) but rather economic and liberty-related issues, from foreign policy to healthcare. Political discord will be reflected in the arts, in music, more than now. It'll be all that people miss about the good old days of the 1980s and 1990s, with some added pros (more technological amenities, yet less of that social-media "trendiness" BS) and added cons (some of that strife will turn deadly). The late 2010s (and some of the early 2020s), as I said, will bridge the gap between these two wildly different eras.
Anyways, let's see if half my prediction turns true.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/21/17 at 4:56 pm


You might can call me crazy, but I can see punk making a major comeback in some way by the mid-2020s. That, grunge and glam metal.
My predictions are:c
This will be the last official year (culturally) of the 2010s. Teen pop, EDM, trap rap, Arianna Grande, all the despised (and relished) elements of 2010s culture might not be here for long. 2018-2021 will be transitional years that will mark the transition from hipster/teen-pop/EDM 2010s to the punky/grungy/techy 2020s. There will be major political tensions, not between SJWs and Alt Right-wingers though, they will come in a different form and possess a different name brand. And it won't be over matters like gay marriage (a settled issue, hopefully) but rather economic and liberty-related issues, from foreign policy to healthcare. Political discord will be reflected in the arts, in music, more than now. It'll be all that people miss about the good old days of the 1980s and 1990s, with some added pros (more technological amenities, yet less of that social-media "trendiness" BS) and added cons (some of that strife will turn deadly). The late 2010s (and some of the early 2020s), as I said, will bridge the gap between these two wildly different eras.
Anyways, let's see if half my prediction turns true.

I personally hope we don't go back to the old ways of things. I want every decade to have its own distinct feel and not recycle the past. If punk comes back, I hope it will have a slightly different sound. Maybe it will be called nu-Punk or post-punk.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Howard on 03/21/17 at 4:57 pm


I fall into Deism. I believe in the existence of a creator that started our universe, but not necessarily the gods that other religions believe. Although Deism in itself isn't really a religion. To me it's somewhere between being an atheist (not believing in any higher force) and being religious (believing the existence of a higher force(s)). Deism doesn't believe in the god(s) that other religions believe in like Atheism, but it does believe in the existence of a god.

However, with all this said I'm still respect everyone's religions or lack thereof despite not following them.


I'm Jewish.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: nintieskid999 on 03/21/17 at 5:00 pm


I personally hope we don't go back to the old ways of things. I want every decade to have its own distinct feel and not recycle the past. If punk comes back, I hope it will have a slightly different sound. Maybe it will be called nu-Punk or post-punk.


I want something new and GOOD not something new that sucks like most of the top 100. I want a new music movement to blow me away and excite me. Leave me in awe. Not something that will sound like noise.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: the2001 on 03/21/17 at 5:19 pm


You might can call me crazy, but I can see punk making a major comeback in some way by the mid-2020s. That, grunge and glam metal.
My predictions are:c
This will be the last official year (culturally) of the 2010s. Teen pop, EDM, trap rap, Arianna Grande, all the despised (and relished) elements of 2010s culture might not be here for long. 2018-2021 will be transitional years that will mark the transition from hipster/teen-pop/EDM 2010s to the punky/grungy/techy 2020s. There will be major political tensions, not between SJWs and Alt Right-wingers though, they will come in a different form and possess a different name brand. And it won't be over matters like gay marriage (a settled issue, hopefully) but rather economic and liberty-related issues, from foreign policy to healthcare. Political discord will be reflected in the arts, in music, more than now. It'll be all that people miss about the good old days of the 1980s and 1990s, with some added pros (more technological amenities, yet less of that social-media "trendiness" BS) and added cons (some of that strife will turn deadly). The late 2010s (and some of the early 2020s), as I said, will bridge the gap between these two wildly different eras.
Anyways, let's see if half my prediction turns true.


I agree with you 100% 2017 is the last official year of the classic 2010s culture, the shift started happening In Aug/September with Pokemon GO craze, Trump debates, and the transition kicked into high gear once Trump was elected. For some reason we will look back years from now and signify pokemon GO was the last major craze of the classic 2010s.

For PUNK, there hasn't been any punk, EMO, or grunge movement in years, the last punky type movement was EMO which lasted from 2003-2009.
The kind of passion pit type music that is out now is not punk at all.

There will be a SOCIAL MEDIA backlash, it is already happening, I am not going to get in depth with it, but Social media is in its first dying stages.
Minus Youtube and Instagram of course.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 03/21/17 at 5:38 pm


I agree with you 100% 2017 is the last official year of the classic 2010s culture, the shift started happening In Aug/September with Pokemon GO craze, Trump debates, and the transition kicked into high gear once Trump was elected. For some reason we will look back years from now and signify pokemon GO was the last major craze of the classic 2010s.

For PUNK, there hasn't been any punk, EMO, or grunge movement in years, the last punky type movement was EMO which lasted from 2003-2009.
The kind of passion pit type music that is out now is not punk at all.

There will be a SOCIAL MEDIA backlash, it is already happening, I am not going to get in depth with it, but Social media is in its first dying stages.
Minus Youtube and Instagram of course.


We will probably have to wait until a few years into the 2020s to see when the transition from '10s culture to '20s culture occurred.  Many people were saying the same thing in 2008, yet in hindsight, 2008 didn't define the '10s near as much as people back then thought it would.

I personally think we are entering a mini-era that in hindsight won't be classic '10s or 2020s.  It will be like the Carter '70s, having its own unique vibe yet still part of the broader '70s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: bchris02 on 03/21/17 at 5:43 pm

In addition, I don't see anything on the horizon to push teen pop, EDM, Ariana Grande, etc out of the limelight.  With that said, the electropop explosion in late 2008 and early 2009 that pushed '00s style hip-hop and post-grunge aside took everyone by surprise and completely changed music within the matter of about six months.  The same thing happened in 2013 on a smaller scale, when teen pop pushed early '10s-style electropop aside.  When the next change happens, it will come pretty quickly.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HeyJealousy on 03/21/17 at 6:32 pm


We will probably have to wait until a few years into the 2020s to see when the transition from '10s culture to '20s culture occurred.  Many people were saying the same thing in 2008, yet in hindsight, 2008 didn't define the '10s near as much as people back then thought it would.

I personally think we are entering a mini-era that in hindsight won't be classic '10s or 2020s.  It will be like the Carter '70s, having its own unique vibe yet still part of the broader '70s.


"Many people were saying the same thing in 2008, yet in hindsight, 2008 didn't define the '10s near as much as people back then thought it would"
Well, by 2008, the social-media craze was in its beginning stages. Granted, Instagram wasn't a thing yet (I didn't hear about it until' 2013) but Facebook and Youtube were the "in" things.
"I personally think we are entering a mini-era that in hindsight won't be classic '10s or 2020s.  It will be like the Carter '70s, having its own unique vibe yet still part of the broader '70s."
I like this prediction, but please elaborate: are we talking on musical/cultural terms, purely political or both?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/21/17 at 6:32 pm


I personally hope we don't go back to the old ways of things. I want every decade to have its own distinct feel and not recycle the past. If punk comes back, I hope it will have a slightly different sound. Maybe it will be called nu-Punk or post-punk.


There already is a post-punk :P

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HeyJealousy on 03/21/17 at 6:34 pm


I want something new and GOOD not something new that sucks like most of the top 100. I want a new music movement to blow me away and excite me. Leave me in awe. Not something that will sound like noise.


So do most of us, but it might as well just be a hybrid of two (or more) well-established genres. Glam country, anyone? "Glambilly"? That'll be a hell of a sound. Don't think it'll come out too well though.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/21/17 at 6:35 pm


I want something new and GOOD not something new that sucks like most of the top 100. I want a new music movement to blow me away and excite me. Leave me in awe. Not something that will sound like noise.


Did you get Spotify yet?  :-X

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/21/17 at 6:51 pm


I agree with you 100% 2017 is the last official year of the classic 2010s culture, the shift started happening In Aug/September with Pokemon GO craze, Trump debates, and the transition kicked into high gear once Trump was elected. For some reason we will look back years from now and signify pokemon GO was the last major craze of the classic 2010s.

For PUNK, there hasn't been any punk, EMO, or grunge movement in years, the last punky type movement was EMO which lasted from 2003-2009.
The kind of passion pit type music that is out now is not punk at all.

There will be a SOCIAL MEDIA backlash, it is already happening, I am not going to get in depth with it, but Social media is in its first dying stages.
Minus Youtube and Instagram of course.

Pokemon Go was just a summer fad, it started in June and ended in August, so not really a turning point of any sorts. It is no longer popular so it belongs with the mid 10s. I don't think the transition has even started.

Social Media is not dying... I'm not sure where you're getting your information from. It's growing bigger and bigger and will only get bigger and evolve. People rely on social media for many things like jobs, communication, professional business ventures, etc. It's no longer aimed for teens to just have fun so it certainly won't die, and I am glad for that.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HeyJealousy on 03/21/17 at 6:57 pm


Pokemon Go was just a summer fad, it started in June and ended in August, so not really a turning point of any sorts. It is no longer popular so it belongs with the mid 10s. I don't think the transition has even started.

Social Media is not dying... I'm not sure where you're getting your information from. It's growing bigger and bigger and will only get bigger and evolve. People rely on social media for many things like jobs, communication, professional business ventures, etc. It's no longer aimed for teens to just have fun so it certainly won't die, and I am glad for that.


http://mediakix.com/2017/02/is-snapchat-dying-user-growth-app-downloads-trends/

I mean, if this is any indication...

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HeyJealousy on 03/21/17 at 7:00 pm


Pokemon Go was just a summer fad, it started in June and ended in August, so not really a turning point of any sorts. It is no longer popular so it belongs with the mid 10s. I don't think the transition has even started.

Social Media is not dying... I'm not sure where you're getting your information from. It's growing bigger and bigger and will only get bigger and evolve. People rely on social media for many things like jobs, communication, professional business ventures, etc. It's no longer aimed for teens to just have fun so it certainly won't die, and I am glad for that.


Social media, in its current form, will die out and evolve into something more mature. Youths will outgrow their Snapchat phase, and utilize social-media for purely professional (mostly) purposes. No more trendy Harambe bullsheesh, at least not like the 2014-2016 time period.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/21/17 at 7:10 pm


http://mediakix.com/2017/02/is-snapchat-dying-user-growth-app-downloads-trends/

I mean, if this is any indication...


Unless I'm reading this wrong, it's not that social media is dying out, it's just that Snapchat users are using Instagram more?

I can see how social media can evolve to be something else (we went from MSN/AIM/Yahoo to MySpace/Facebook after all), but I don't foresee people getting tired of it and signing off. Social media has a lot of benefits and most people enjoy using it, even if we personally don't like it. ;D *shrugs*

Btw I love your username :D

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HeyJealousy on 03/21/17 at 7:17 pm


Unless I'm reading this wrong, it's not that social media is dying out, it's just that Snapchat users are using Instagram more?

I can see how social media can evolve to be something else (we went from MSN/AIM/Yahoo to MySpace/Facebook after all), but I don't foresee people getting tired of it and signing off. Social media has a lot of benefits and most people enjoy using it, even if we personally don't like it. ;D *shrugs*

Btw I love your username :D


Thanks, it's a song by Gin Blossoms, a criminally underappreciated alt-rock group from the mid 90s. Their only hit song.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/21/17 at 7:18 pm

I think 2017 to 2019 will be defined by the Trump presidency and the backlash against him and the Republicans in control in Washington. Also, the late 2010s in music will be defined by trap rap, Ariana Grande, girl groups like Little Mix & Fifth Harmony. The late 2010s in pop culture, technology and fashion will be the same as now. When 2019 comes especially during September-December 2019, there will be a wave of excitement towards the 2020s and people hoping for a new start in the new decade.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HeyJealousy on 03/21/17 at 7:18 pm

Unless you already knew that.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HeyJealousy on 03/21/17 at 7:19 pm


I think 2017 to 2019 will be defined by the Trump presidency and the backlash against him and the Republicans in control in Washington. Also, the late 2010s in music will be defined by trap rap, Ariana Grande, girl groups like Little Mix & Fifth Harmony. The late 2010s in pop culture, technology and fashion will be the same as now. When 2019 comes especially during September-December 2019, there will be a wave of excitement towards the 2020s and people hoping for a new start in the new decade.


So, by then, do you think music and pop culture will see noticeable changes?

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/21/17 at 7:25 pm


I think 2017 to 2019 will be defined by the Trump presidency and the backlash against him and the Republicans in control in Washington. Also, the late 2010s in music will be defined by trap rap, Ariana Grande, girl groups like Little Mix & Fifth Harmony. The late 2010s in pop culture, technology and fashion will be the same as now. When 2019 comes especially during September-December 2019, there will be a wave of excitement towards the 2020s and people hoping for a new start in the new decade.


2017 to 2021 would be defined with the Trump presidency, due to how it affected pop culture with the social media's reaction.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/21/17 at 7:26 pm


Thanks, it's a song by Gin Blossoms, a criminally underappreciated alt-rock group from the mid 90s. Their only hit song.


I know, I love Gin Blossoms too! :D I thought Follow You Down was their most popular song though. :o

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/21/17 at 7:27 pm


http://mediakix.com/2017/02/is-snapchat-dying-user-growth-app-downloads-trends/

I mean, if this is any indication...

SnapChat does not represent social media in general... All social media platforms eventually die like MySpace. But social media in general will never die.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/21/17 at 7:28 pm


I think 2017 to 2019 will be defined by the Trump presidency and the backlash against him and the Republicans in control in Washington. Also, the late 2010s in music will be defined by trap rap, Ariana Grande, girl groups like Little Mix & Fifth Harmony. The late 2010s in pop culture, technology and fashion will be the same as now. When 2019 comes especially during September-December 2019, there will be a wave of excitement towards the 2020s and people hoping for a new start in the new decade.


Fifth Harmony is now (Four)th Harmony by the way. I don't think they're long for this world.  :-X

Camilla, the one who left, has some potential though. She released a Spanish single (ft. Pitbull) that's pretty decent.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HeyJealousy on 03/21/17 at 7:28 pm


I know, I love Gin Blossoms too! :D I thought Follow You Down was their most popular song though. :o


"Follow You Down" was fairly popular, and (sometimes) I prefer that one to Hey Jealousy, but Hey Jealousy was what defined them. Also "Found Out About You"

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/21/17 at 7:29 pm


Social media, in its current form, will die out and evolve into something more mature. Youths will outgrow their Snapchat phase, and utilize social-media for purely professional (mostly) purposes. No more trendy Harambe bullsheesh, at least not like the 2014-2016 time period.

Social media will never die... Too many people depend on it and it's been growing and getting bigger since the start. It would be an absolute catastrophe if social media were to vanish.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/21/17 at 7:33 pm


Fifth Harmony is now (Four)th Harmony by the way. I don't think they're long for this world.  :-X

Camilla, the one who left, has some potential though. She released a Spanish single (ft. Pitbull) that's pretty decent.

Yeah, very true. She's always been the one that stuck out the most to me (for multiple reasons :P).

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/21/17 at 7:33 pm


"Follow You Down" was fairly popular, and (sometimes) I prefer that one to Hey Jealousy, but Hey Jealousy was what defined them. Also "Found Out About You"


Their songs are amazing to drive to. I wish there were more bands like them. "As Long As It Matters" is probably my favourite song of theirs. :)

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Slim95 on 03/21/17 at 7:40 pm

I don't believe the late 10s will be exactly the same as now and the mid 10s. They may be similar but I definitely see at least some changes happening soon. It could be possible that a huge change will happen and the late 10s/early 20s will be one era, but I think the late 10s will be a gradual change towards the 20s.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/21/17 at 7:55 pm


I don't believe the late 10s will be exactly the same as now and the mid 10s. They may be similar but I definitely see at least some changes happening soon. It could be possible that a huge change will happen and the late 10s/early 20s will be one era, but I think the late 10s will be a gradual change towards the 20s.

I mean I don't see how the late 2010s will be drastically different from now. If we are talking about 5 years from now (2022), then OH YEAH the world will be mostly different in terms of pop culture, fashion (maybe) and music. However, we are already in the late 2010s (it's 2017) and I don't see the world being that different a year or 2 from now. 2018 and 2019 will be very similar to 2017 and those years will also be very similar to 2014-2016 IMO.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HeyJealousy on 03/21/17 at 7:55 pm


I don't believe the late 10s will be exactly the same as now and the mid 10s. They may be similar but I definitely see at least some changes happening soon. It could be possible that a huge change will happen and the late 10s/early 20s will be one era, but I think the late 10s will be a gradual change towards the 20s.


Much like the late 2000s was a gradual change toward the 2010s. You can't deny that 2007 and 2011, in retrospect, weren't that much alike.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HeyJealousy on 03/21/17 at 7:59 pm


I mean I don't see how the late 2010s will be drastically different from now. If we are talking about 5 years from now (2022), then OH YEAH the world will be mostly different in terms of pop culture, fashion (maybe) and music. However, we are already in the late 2010s (it's 2017) and I don't see the world being that different a year or 2 from now. 2018 and 2019 will be very similar to 2017 and those years will also be very similar to 2014-2016 IMO.


No, I don't see it. I don't see the infatuation with chipotle like I did some 2, 3 years ago. Harambe is a dying meme. GamerGate isn't brought up too often anymore. Mass shootings are slowing down quite a bit. The transition is starting, but it is slow and gradual. I don't think we'll be talking about Arianna Grande and Nicki Minaj all too much by the time 2020 rolls around and, if we are, it's because they'll be adapting to emerging musical trends in order to stay relevant.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/21/17 at 8:07 pm


Much like the late 2000s was a gradual change toward the 2010s. You can't deny that 2007 and 2011, in retrospect, weren't that much alike.


No, I don't see it. I don't see the infatuation with chipotle like I did some 2, 3 years ago. Harambe is a dying meme. GamerGate isn't brought up too often anymore. Mass shootings are slowing down quite a bit. The transition is starting, but it is slow and gradual. I don't think we'll be talking about Arianna Grande and Nicki Minaj all too much by the time 2020 rolls around and, if we are, it's because they'll be adapting to emerging musical trends in order to stay relevant.

Yeah, 2007 and 2011 aren't very much alike. But, you really think 2017 is that different from 2013?. It's not. Also, Yes, of course we are slowly transitioning but we're talking about if 2017 will be mostly different from 2019 (even 2018) and I just don't see that. Yeah, some memes are dying out but that doesn't mean anything. Mass shootings happen very frequently in the US, some just aren't as notable as Sandy Hook, Washington Navy Yard, Charleston and Pulse, so that won't change from now to December 31, 2019. Nicki Minaj has been popular since 2010 and her style has mostly been the same. Also, Ariana Grande has been popular as an artist since 2014/2015 and I think she will stay a while (at least until 2019).

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/21/17 at 8:12 pm

Some people have argued that 2016 was a late 2010s year and not mid 2010s, but I can't see it. To me, 2016 was just the same miserable crap as 2015, ratcheted up to 11.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HeyJealousy on 03/21/17 at 8:45 pm


Yeah, 2007 and 2011 are very much alike. But, you really think 2017 is that different from 2013?. It's not. Also, Yes, of course we are slowly transitioning but we're talking about if 2017 will be mostly different from 2019 (even 2018) and I just don't see that. Yeah, some memes are dying out but that doesn't mean anything. Mass shootings happen very frequently in the US, some just aren't as notable as Sandy Hook, Washington Navy Yard, Charleston and Pulse, so that won't change from now to December 31, 2019. Nicki Minaj has been popular since 2010 and her style has mostly been the same. Also, Ariana Grande has been popular as an artist since 2014/2015 and I think she will stay a while (at least until 2019).


I just don't think that by the end of this time period (late 2010s), we will be looking back at the entire late 2010s period as nearly identical to the mid 2010s in eery imaginable way.
And there are some significant differences between 2010 and 2014, Snapchat and Instagram were barely heard of in 2010 whereas they seemed to peak starting around 2014 (I don't know when either was created, so I cannot comment on that), EDM wasn't all too commonplace in 2010, mass shootings and racial strife were almost unheard of, etc. A lot can happen in the course of 3-4 years. We might be riding in similarly designed cars and possessing similar long-term goals, but there are differences that are dynamic and change swiftly with time.

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: 2001 on 03/21/17 at 8:48 pm


No, I don't see it. I don't see the infatuation with chipotle like I did some 2, 3 years ago. Harambe is a dying meme. GamerGate isn't brought up too often anymore. Mass shootings are slowing down quite a bit. The transition is starting, but it is slow and gradual. I don't think we'll be talking about Arianna Grande and Nicki Minaj all too much by the time 2020 rolls around and, if we are, it's because they'll be adapting to emerging musical trends in order to stay relevant.


Chipotle had that E. Coli scandal that killed them off instantly. ;D

I only ate there once. I think I got a burrito bowl?? It was cold as f*ck, gross.  8-P Never went back again.

I feel like the mid-2010s "gourmet burger" trend is still going strong. Oh and the food trucks. The glorious food trucks, I'm not complaining about those.

I want the eat local/seasonal trend to keep going, but I want the whole "organic" nonsense to die a fiery death (except for meat/dairy). So wasteful.  :-X

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: HeyJealousy on 03/21/17 at 8:49 pm


Some people have argued that 2016 was a late 2010s year and not mid 2010s, but I can't see it. To me, 2016 was just the same miserable crap as 2015, ratcheted up to 11.


True. But I don't see things getting any worse from here on out. Politically and culturally.
Soon, it will be well-established (within' both parties) that Trump has no place in the White House and both parties might be united in unprecedented ways.
Personally, I would like to see this nation head in a libertarian direction in the coming years, but not so much economic (don't care for Ayn Randian philosophy) as in terms of respect for a "non-aggression principle", foreign policy, drug policy, and to a lesser degree, gun rights as well (though the gun fetishists sometimes turn me off the pro-gun bandwagon).

Subject: Re: The Late '10s (2017-2019)

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 03/21/17 at 8:52 pm


I just don't think that by the end of this time period (late 2010s), we will be looking back at the entire late 2010s period as nearly identical to the mid 2010s in eery imaginable way.
And there are some significant differences between 2010 and 2014, Snapchat and Instagram were barel