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Subject: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 01/09/17 at 10:33 pm

So we start off this Trump era with a heavy dose of mid-2010s Obama-era nostalgia in Ed Sheeran's Shape of You taking heavy inspiration from Summer of 2016 smash hit Cheap Thrills. I'm not lying! Listen it to yourself!

Ed Sheeran - Shape Of You

And if that wasn't enough mid-2010s nostalgia, here's Ed Sheeran's Castle On The Hill taking heavy inspiration from early 2016 smash hit 7 Years by Lukas Graham! Just kidding, this song is way better.

Ed Sheeran - Castle On The Hill

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/10/17 at 12:34 am


So we start off this Trump era with a heavy dose of mid-2010s Obama-era nostalgia in Ed Sheeran's Shape of You taking heavy inspiration from Summer of 2016 smash hit Cheap Thrills. I'm not lying! Listen it to yourself!

Ed Sheeran - Shape Of You

And if that wasn't enough mid-2010s nostalgia, here's Ed Sheeran's Castle On The Hill taking heavy inspiration from early 2016 smash hit 7 Years by Lukas Graham! Just kidding, this song is way better.

Ed Sheeran - Castle On The Hill


I don't think I'm the audience for those songs cause I'm not feeling it. I thought Thinking Out Loud was good despite having to take a moment to get over how close the music was to Let's Get It On.

The xx just released two songs from their new album that's being released on Fri. I'm not in love with them but I find it more upbeat and catchier than their previous music (which I'm sure many of their fans hate).

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Philip Eno on 01/10/17 at 1:57 am


I don't think I'm the audience for those songs cause I'm not feeling it. I thought Thinking Out Loud was good despite having to take a moment to get over how close the music was to Let's Get It On.
On 10 August 2016, it was announced that Sheeran was getting sued by the family of Ed Townsend for copyright infringement, who claim that "Thinking Out Loud" plagiarises elements of Marvin Gaye's "Let's Get It On".

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 01/10/17 at 2:09 am

Bad and Boujee very recently hit number one on the Billboard Hot 100 (US) dated Jan. 21st, and is the current number one.

Interesting how a hip hop trio with a solo rapper hit number one and the number one before it was a hip hop duo with a solo rapper. I'm personally not a fan of this song, but here it is if you haven't heard it by now.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 01/10/17 at 6:34 am

This is currently topping the Australian Top 40 charts; "Rockabye" by Clean Bandit. It's a horrible song, in my opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=papuvlVeZg8

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/10/17 at 10:10 am


This is currently topping the Australian Top 40 charts; "Rockabye" by Clean Bandit. It's a horrible song, in my opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=papuvlVeZg8


I liked Rather Be quite a lot. A real mainstream standout of 2014/15. But yeah, this is bad. Let the mid-2010s die already.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 01/10/17 at 11:13 am


I don't think I'm the audience for those songs cause I'm not feeling it. I thought Thinking Out Loud was good despite having to take a moment to get over how close the music was to Let's Get It On.

The xx just released two songs from their new album that's being released on Fri. I'm not in love with them but I find it more upbeat and catchier than their previous music (which I'm sure many of their fans hate).


Those are upbeat? ;D

I really liked them, especially Say Something Loving!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 01/10/17 at 11:21 am


On 10 August 2016, it was announced that Sheeran was getting sued by the family of Ed Townsend for copyright infringement, who claim that "Thinking Out Loud" plagiarises elements of Marvin Gaye's "Let's Get It On".


So this isn't even the first time he's made a blatant copycat? Mess!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 01/10/17 at 3:22 pm


This is currently topping the Australian Top 40 charts; "Rockabye" by Clean Bandit. It's a horrible song, in my opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=papuvlVeZg8


Yeah, I'm starting to hear it a lot over here in US, I wonder why Sean Paul is getting featured on a lot of these new hit songs?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/10/17 at 10:52 pm


Those are upbeat? ;D

I really liked them, especially Say Something Loving!


lol. Compared to their previous work, yep.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: JordanK1982 on 01/10/17 at 10:56 pm

I'm still waiting on Pitbull's latest album Climate Change to drop. It's gonna be the best album of 2017, I guarantee it!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 01/11/17 at 1:55 pm


I'm still waiting on Pitbull's latest album Climate Change to drop. It's gonna be the best album of 2017, I guarantee it!


You have him as greatest singer of 21st century, but he's not even a singer, lol, are you just messing around? It's still hard to believe someone out there actually likes Pitbull that much, haha, but hey, whatever works for you. :)

Personally, I only like his songs that feature Ne-Yo.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/11/17 at 3:24 pm


Yeah, I'm starting to hear it a lot over here in US, I wonder why Sean Paul is getting featured on a lot of these new hit songs?


Many of the hit songs these days have a strong tropical/dancehall quality. Sean Paul fits with it.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 01/11/17 at 4:27 pm


Many of the hit songs these days have a strong tropical/dancehall quality. Sean Paul fits with it.


You're right, I didn't think about that.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 01/11/17 at 5:02 pm


Yeah, I'm starting to hear it a lot over here in US, I wonder why Sean Paul is getting featured on a lot of these new hit songs?


In all honesty, I don't even know who Sean Paul is! I'm completely out of touch with music which has been released over the past few years. :P

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 01/11/17 at 5:08 pm


In all honesty, I don't even know who Sean Paul is! I'm completely out of touch with music which has been released over the past few years. :P


Haha, you're good, he only started getting heard from again this year in the mainstream, first time since like 2006 with Temperature.

You might know him from Cheap Thrills by Sia, he's the rapper on it.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: JordanK1982 on 01/11/17 at 9:44 pm


You have him as greatest singer of 21st century, but he's not even a singer, lol, are you just messing around? It's still hard to believe someone out there actually likes Pitbull that much, haha, but hey, whatever works for you. :)

Personally, I only like his songs that feature Ne-Yo.


Well, Pitbull does do a lot of rapper but he isn't a one-trick pony. He likes to be melodic and use his voice to sing as well. I think Pitbull's a fantastic singer, the only modern artist I enjoy.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 01/11/17 at 10:35 pm


Bad and Boujee very recently hit number one on the Billboard Hot 100 (US) dated Jan. 21st, and is the current number one.

Interesting how a hip hop duo with a solo rapper hit number one and the number one before it was also a hip hop duo with a solo rapper. I'm personally not a fan of this song, but here it is if you haven't heard it by now.


Eek!


This is currently topping the Australian Top 40 charts; "Rockabye" by Clean Bandit. It's a horrible song, in my opinion.


Eek eek eek!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/12/17 at 12:55 am


In all honesty, I don't even know who Sean Paul is! I'm completely out of touch with music which has been released over the past few years. :P


Sean Paul is mostly known for his collaborations. Here are some of his most known work. He's kind of more of a 2000s artist but he's currently enjoying a resurgence.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/12/17 at 1:18 am


On 10 August 2016, it was announced that Sheeran was getting sued by the family of Ed Townsend for copyright infringement, who claim that "Thinking Out Loud" plagiarises elements of Marvin Gaye's "Let's Get It On".


As he should. The songs are way too similar.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 01/12/17 at 8:37 pm

Don't know how many Weeknd fans we have here, but they released a music video for his song Party Monster today.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 01/13/17 at 10:27 am

http://pitchfork.com/news/70861-angel-olsen-mitski-whitney-more-featured-on-new-anti-trump-compilation/?mbid=social_facebook

It begins.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 01/22/17 at 5:29 pm

The Rockabye song would be good if Sean Paul wasn't in it. #unpopularopinion

Some of my favourite 2016 songs releasing as 2017 singles!

Green Day - Troubled Times

Sia - Move Your Body

I much prefer the album version of Move Your Body, but the single version is good enough I guess.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 01/22/17 at 5:33 pm


Don't know how many Weeknd fans we have here, but they released a music video for his song Party Monster today.


I love Weeknd but this is one of his weaker songs imo.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 01/22/17 at 6:01 pm


Don't know how many Weeknd fans we have here, but they released a music video for his song Party Monster today.


I love Weeknd but this is one of his weaker songs imo.

I like his song "I Feel It Coming". It sounds like Michael Jackson. I would post it here but there isn't a YouTube video of it, only covers of the song. The song is only available on Spotify.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 01/22/17 at 6:05 pm


I like his song "I Feel It Coming". It sounds like Michael Jackson. I would post it here but there isn't a YouTube video of it, only covers of the song. The song is only available on Spotify.


That's pretty good :o

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: JordanK1982 on 01/22/17 at 6:34 pm

Troubled Times sucks. I can't wait for Bad Religion to come out with an album because they generally, you know, actually contain substance. :P

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 01/22/17 at 8:25 pm


Troubled Times sucks. I can't wait for Bad Religion to come out with an album because they generally, you know, actually contain substance. :P


Fffff it's not even a slogan song. Keep h8ing.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 01/23/17 at 4:37 pm


I love Weeknd but this is one of his weaker songs imo.


I agree, just wanted to post the video, haha. Starboy and I Feel It Coming are my favorites from his new album.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 01/23/17 at 4:39 pm


I like his song "I Feel It Coming". It sounds like Michael Jackson. I would post it here but there isn't a YouTube video of it, only covers of the song. The song is only available on Spotify.


Yeah, I love that song, bought it the day it released, one of the few current top 20 songs I'm a big fan of.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: JordanK1982 on 01/23/17 at 4:47 pm


Fffff it's not even a slogan song. Keep h8ing.


What good is love and peace on earth when Green Day keep releasing bad music?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 02/02/17 at 11:59 pm

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 02/03/17 at 12:42 am


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This isn't a new song. Just a remix someone made.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheKid99 on 02/03/17 at 6:36 am

2017 is gonna be a good year for pop punk...

Knuckle Puck.... Real Friends.... TSSF.... Trash Boat... all are either comfirmed or rumored to make new albums this year...

:D

Now pop music... just complete crap right now...

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 02/03/17 at 7:37 am

I'm hoping that there will be some sort of shift with popular music in the next month or two. I remember Early 2013 still felt very much like the Electropop Era, however there was a noticeable change around April of that year. The foundations are now in place for a new culture to be established. Music wise (and cultural wise, in general), i'm hoping that the Late 2010s will differentiate from the Mid 2010s. The era that we are living in needs it's own solid identity, in my opinion.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 02/03/17 at 2:08 pm


I'm hoping that there will be some sort of shift with popular music in the next month or two. I remember Early 2013 still felt very much like the Electropop Era, however there was a noticeable change around April of that year. The foundations are now in place for a new culture to be established. Music wise (and cultural wise, in general), i'm hoping that the Late 2010s will differentiate from the Mid 2010s. The era that we are living in needs it's own solid identity, in my opinion.

I don't think there will be a big shift. I feel like the entire 2010s has been a decade of gradual change and I feel like the late 10s will be no different. We'll probably gradually see some new things occur up until the end of the decade and the real change will come when we transition from the 10s to the 20s. For music there just doesn't seem to be anything new on the charts at the moment that people like and want to hear. Dancehall music which started to get popular last year is still popular now and trap rap which was popular from 2014 is also still huge now. There are so many trap rap songs on the radio now, more than there ever was before in terms of high chart positions, that I feel like we're coming close to the peak if not already at the peak of trap music. Having said this I definitely hope you are right, but at the moment it's anyone's guess on what the new trends will be.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/04/17 at 7:14 pm

Anyone a fan of the use of Vinly records? Well you're in luck! It seems that as of the 2010s Vinly Records have regained some slight popularity.
http://infographic.statista.com/normal/chartoftheday_1465_vinyl_lp_sales_in_the_us_n.jpg
http://infographic.statista.com/normal/chartoftheday_2967_Worldwide_vinyl_sales_n.jpg
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https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3346414/vinylunits.0.jpg

The peak of Vinly usage was the 1970s. By the 1980s it was declining until it hit the bottom in the 1990s-2000s.The 2010s has a slight increase where Vinly sales in the 2010s has overtook Vinly sales in the 1990s. However, I don't think Vinly will be as big as it was in the 1970s. Although with more growth it could rival the 1980s.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 02/04/17 at 7:51 pm


I don't think there will be a big shift. I feel like the entire 2010s has been a decade of gradual change and I feel like the late 10s will be no different. We'll probably gradually see some new things occur up until the end of the decade and the real change will come when we transition from the 10s to the 20s.

For music there just doesn't seem to be anything new on the charts at the moment that people like and want to hear. Dancehall music which started to get popular last year is still popular now and trap rap which was popular from 2014 is also still huge now. There are so many trap rap songs on the radio now, more than there ever was before in terms of high chart positions, that I feel like we're coming close to the peak if not already at the peak of trap music. Having said this I definitely hope you are right, but at the moment it's anyone's guess on what the new trends will be.


I agree. At the end of the day, I just wish that there was more variety in the Top-40 charts. It's sad to admit, but there was even more variety in the charts only as recently as 2012. Back then, there was teen pop (One Direction, Justin Bieber etc.), some rock ("Lonely Boy" by The Black Keys), Dance (Gangnam Style), standard pop ("Paradise" by Coldplay), as well as Electropop. Looking at the charts now, there is no musical variety whatsoever with any of the songs.

Case in point, I regularly listen to a rock station and it plays new "rock" songs on a weekly basis. However, because of the lack of new rock on any of the charts at the moment, the station is playing "Cocoon" by Milky Chance, as a new "rock" song! I'm not sure if you have heard the song before or not, but it's a trap song; it doesn't contain any elements of rock at all. In my opinion, that really speaks volumes about how there is such a lack of musical variety on the charts.

Whilst I agree that the chances of there being a big shift in the Late 2010s is very slim, i'm still hoping that there will be some sort of change later on this year. I remember after "Blurred Lines" came out around April 2013, Electropop started to disappear from the charts. I'm hoping that there will be a new song released sometime in the next few months, which will ultimately have the same effect.

Admittedly, i'm hoping that there is a chance that Madonna will release a new Trump-inspired song, despite the fact that i'm not particularly a fan of her songs. I remember she was at the women's protest a few weeks ago and she publicly declared her disliking of Trump. Let's just hope the events in recent times will inspire her to produce/release a new song based on Trump, which may hopefully spark a change in the charts. I know it's unlikely to happen, but I suppose anything is possible.


Anyone a fan of the use of Vinly records? Well you're in luck! It seems that as of the 2010s Vinly Records have regained some slight popularity.


Since two or three years ago, you can now easily purchase Vinyl records at local electronics stores. At one store that I go to, there is a small section in one of the rows which solely displays Vinyl records. To be honest, I think they have become trendy.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 02/07/17 at 12:06 pm



Whilst I agree that the chances of there being a big shift in the Late 2010s is very slim, i'm still hoping that there will be some sort of change later on this year. I remember after "Blurred Lines" came out around April 2013, Electropop started to disappear from the charts. I'm hoping that there will be a new song released sometime in the next few months, which will ultimately have the same effect.



Yeah I remember thinking in spring 2013 how music sounded different and actually improved. I think the shift started around February 2013 when Justin Timberlake released his "Suit and Tie" song. Also early 2013 was when Thrift Shop was huge too and more ballads came out like from Rihanna and then Blurred Lines came out in April which became a huge summer hit. This was the year Ariana Grande first came into the music scene as well. Looking back now I miss this time already.  :-[ I hope 2017 is the same case and we hear some good new songs. But I noticed a lot of brand new artists came in 2013 so I think it's time we hear some new artists that are unheard of release some stuff. If there is a shift in the style of music, it may be a variation of what we are already hearing just switched up a bit. Maybe some electronic R&B or dance trap or something like that.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 02/09/17 at 10:08 am


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUvhZoRy4aw
I'm starting to like the Weeknd's song "I Feel It Coming" as I was in Burger King yesterday.

That's not the Weeknd though, tha's a cover. You can only hear the Weeknd's song on Spotify. I like the song too.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Howard on 02/09/17 at 2:26 pm


That's not the Weeknd though, tha's a cover. You can only hear the Weeknd's song on Spotify. I like the song too.



Do you like the cover or the original version? ???

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 02/09/17 at 2:54 pm



Do you like the cover or the original version? ???

I like the original version.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Howard on 02/09/17 at 3:01 pm


I like the original version.


He sounds a bit like a younger version of Michael Jackson.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Arrowstone on 02/09/17 at 4:31 pm

I was never a big fan of it, but I would like a 90s/00s (soul) r&b revival.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 02/09/17 at 4:31 pm


He sounds a bit like a younger version of Michael Jackson.

Yeah I agree.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 80sfan on 02/09/17 at 4:36 pm


Anyone a fan of the use of Vinly records? Well you're in luck! It seems that as of the 2010s Vinly Records have regained some slight popularity.
http://infographic.statista.com/normal/chartoftheday_1465_vinyl_lp_sales_in_the_us_n.jpg
http://infographic.statista.com/normal/chartoftheday_2967_Worldwide_vinyl_sales_n.jpg
http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/mjxbxs-mjxbxblps.gif
https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/UES8ZCTSirf67_KDmtRcTm9JJ8M=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2906112/vinyl_two.0.png
https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3346414/vinylunits.0.jpg

The peak of Vinly usage was the 1970s. By the 1980s it was declining until it hit the bottom in the 1990s-2000s.The 2010s has a slight increase where Vinly sales in the 2010s has overtook Vinly sales in the 1990s. However, I don't think Vinly will be as big as it was in the 1970s. Although with more growth it could rival the 1980s.


Vinyls are 'edgy' again.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 80sfan on 02/09/17 at 4:40 pm

Music is in a very dull state, right now!

Even Mariah Carey's new song isn't in the best shape.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/09/17 at 6:04 pm


Vinyls are 'edgy' again.


Yeah, in the music industry the actual composers (especially DJs) use Vinyls all the time. And now a lot of music fans who prefer having physical music over downloaded buy Vinyls. I'm not a Vinyl guy as I'm more of a fan of owning CDs. But I do find Vinyls appealing. I just don't go  out of my way to buy them.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 02/10/17 at 12:05 am

This song is topping both the Billboard and ARIA charts at the moment; "Shape of You" by Ed Sheeran.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGwWNGJdvx8

With the exception of "Sing", all of Ed Sheeran's songs sound really similar to each other, in my opinion. Personally I don't like any of his songs, although I appreciate hearing something on the Top-40 charts which isn't EDM!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 02/10/17 at 12:16 am


This song is topping both the Billboard and ARIA charts at the moment; "Shape of You" by Ed Sheeran.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGwWNGJdvx8

With the exception of "Sing", all of Ed Sheeran's songs sound really similar to each other, in my opinion. Personally I don't like any of his songs, although I appreciate hearing something on the Top-40 charts which isn't EDM!

But this song is EDM. It's not bad but I prefer the remix version.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 02/10/17 at 12:45 am

Nelly Furtado recently released a new song too

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I definitely have a feeling 2017 will be the year of electronic music. And maybe the late 2010s in general too. Many of these electronic songs sound pretty fresh.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 02/10/17 at 12:49 am

This song has a 2000s nostalgia vibe as well.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Howard on 02/10/17 at 7:12 am


Vinyls are 'edgy' again.


They're slowly making a comeback.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 02/11/17 at 2:20 am


I definitely have a feeling 2017 will be the year of electronic music. And maybe the late 2010s in general too. Many of these electronic songs sound pretty fresh.


Unfortunately, I think you're right, however I still believe that the current state of politics will eventually have an influence on some new releases.  Generally speaking,in terms of the Top-40 charts, it wouldn't surprise me if the Late 2010s will pan out like the Late 70s did; one genre (i.e disco, in the Late 70s, EDM/dance hall in the Late 2010s) will dominate the music charts for the next couple of years. I hope i'm proven wrong.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 02/11/17 at 11:36 am


Unfortunately, I think you're right, however I still believe that the current state of politics will eventually have an influence on some new releases.  Generally speaking,in terms of the Top-40 charts, it wouldn't surprise me if the Late 2010s will pan out like the Late 70s did; one genre (i.e disco, in the Late 70s, EDM/dance hall in the Late 2010s) will dominate the music charts for the next couple of years. I hope i'm proven wrong.


I read a fascinating article in The Economist last night, that shows that despite the fact that consumers have more access to choice than ever before (Netflix, Spotify, YouTube etc.), the vast amount of revenue is being generated by the best selling media and that's more true now than ever. It's a paradox of choice: people are so overwhelmed by choice that they rely, more than ever, on what's popular to tell them what's good. One's intuition would tell them that, if you give people make everything equal, the less known options would get more exposure and sales would go up, but that doesn't seem to be what's happening.

http://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/images/print-edition/20170211_LDC112.png

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21716611-americas-bloated-pay-tv-providers-not-so-much-modern-entertainment-industry-nirvana

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/12/17 at 4:51 am

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Oh, snap! I didn't expect for Katy Perry to be the one to release this year's first decent single by a super mainstream artist. It probably won't stay on the charts too long. I think I like it because I so terribly want more rhythmic songs to return. I'm hoping some form of disco or funk prevails next. I'm so over this dark, grimy, emotional, era.

It would be cool if psychedelic rock could come back in style but the kids these days don't seem interested in that kind of stuff. There's a lot of psychedelic bands that has been releasing good stuff lately.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 02/12/17 at 5:53 am


It would be cool is psychedelic rock could come back in style but the kids these days don't seem interested in that kind of stuff. There's a lot of psychedelic bands that has been releasing good stuff lately.


They're probably not even aware of it! To be honest, I think psychedelic rock would be relatively popular among teens/young adults, if more people were aware of the new releases. If someone were to ask me to name a psychedelic rock artist/band or song from this decade, I wouldn't have a clue.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Arrowstone on 02/12/17 at 8:36 am


They're probably not even aware of it! To be honest, I think psychedelic rock would be relatively popular among teens/young adults, if more people were aware of the new releases. If someone were to ask me to name a psychedelic rock artist/band or song from this decade, I wouldn't have a clue.


Tame Impala?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/12/17 at 3:45 pm


They're probably not even aware of it! To be honest, I think psychedelic rock would be relatively popular among teens/young adults, if more people were aware of the new releases. If someone were to ask me to name a psychedelic rock artist/band or song from this decade, I wouldn't have a clue.


You're right. Whenever people ride with me, they are startled and captivated by my music selection. It gets to me how much people limit themselves, but I try to remember that they don't realize it. Most people don't know what's going on beyond the Top 100 and other associated artists.

Here are some psychedelic rock acts that were released material relatively recently:

King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard

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Ty Segal

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Morgan Delt

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Pond

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Thee Oh Sees

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I'm not sure if Andy Shauf qualifies as psychedelic but it's still in the vein in as the songs above.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/12/17 at 3:57 pm


Tame Impala?


Tame Impala is definitely one of the most popular if not THE most popular psychedelic rock band right now. Rihanna even did a cover of TI's song on her ANTI album. Even then, they're still relatively obscure to most people who don't pay attention to the indie sphere. InnerSpeaker is on my top 10 list of favorite albums of my 20s.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/14/17 at 6:40 pm

After a bunch of searching to find the opinions on why modern mainstream music is bad I've come across a few thing. One a lot of the big singers don't even write their own lyrics. Like WTF??! No one why the songs sound a bit bland. It's because it's written by some corporate worker instead of the mind of the singer. Now singers not writing their lyrics isn't a modern thing as this has happened for the past few decades, but now it may seem that a lot of singers don't write their own stuff nowadays. Another issue is that with technology some ordinary whack can become a millionaire by throwing some beats together. This may be why some say that the sound of music isn't as good or just bland/samey.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 02/14/17 at 7:40 pm


After a bunch of searching to find the opinions on why modern mainstream music is bad I've come across a few thing. One a lot of the big singers don't even write their own lyrics. Like WTF??! No one why the songs sound a bit bland. It's because it's written by some corporate worker instead of the mind of the singer. Now singers not writing their lyrics isn't a modern thing as this has happened for the past few decades, but now it may seem that a lot of singers don't write their own stuff nowadays. Another issue is that with technology some ordinary whack can become a millionaire by throwing some beats together. This may be why some say that the sound of music isn't as good or just bland/samey.


People don't write their lyrics, but the songwriters do heavily personalize the lyrics for their clients, and often the singers do insert some of their own lyrics. I'd rather leave the work for the people who are best at the job. Some people are good at singing and others are good at songwriting. :P

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 02/15/17 at 5:10 am


Another issue is that with technology some ordinary whack can become a millionaire by throwing some beats together. This may be why some say that the sound of music isn't as good or just bland/samey.


Musicians need to stop relying on technology so much. The most creative and innovative songs were released during a time without social media, or auto-tune, or even personal computers. Look at what musicians such as Elvis Presley and The Beatles managed to accomplish during their respective times. You could argue that musicians use technology as much as they do, because it's the sign of the times, but if you don't have the natural talent to be a musician and have the ability to be a songwriter, then quite frankly, you shouldn't be in the music industry.

Most of the artists/bands in the Top-40 charts at the moment, have no natural talent. Rather than being musicians, they are "brands". For instance, Katy Perry is a "brand", because even though she can release a really ordinary track ("Chained to the Rhythm"), she has the ability to make products sell and to produce a profit for the music studios and producers.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/15/17 at 10:20 pm


Musicians need to stop relying on technology so much. The most creative and innovative songs were released during a time without social media, or auto-tune, or even personal computers. Look at what musicians such as Elvis Presley and The Beatles managed to accomplish during their respective times. You could argue that musicians use technology as much as they do, because it's the sign of the times, but if you don't have the natural talent to be a musician and have the ability to be a songwriter, then quite frankly, you shouldn't be in the music industry.

Most of the artists/bands in the Top-40 charts at the moment, have no natural talent. Rather than being musicians, they are "brands". For instance, Katy Perry is a "brand", because even though she can release a really ordinary track ("Chained to the Rhythm"), she has the ability to make products sell and to produce a profit for the music studios and producers.


I used to feel like this until I didn't. Look. The Beatles and Elvis were just as much products as Katy Perry is. You might even argue that they were more of a product. The thing is is that they broke barriers that won't be broken again for a long, long time if ever. What other barriers are there now that could be broken besides that which is socially unacceptable or technologically oriented?

There are thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of artists that play instruments making interesting music but while everyone grumble about there being no great new artists, great new artists go under the radar until they finally disband or stop producing, or stop sharing. If everyone that complained about music these days put in the little work it takes to find talented unknown artists and shared them with their friends, the Top 40 wouldn't be what it is.

Most, if not all, of the people in the Top 40 are musicians. Just because they make music you don't like doesn't make them anything less. And yes, the throat, tongue, teeth, nose, diaphragm, all count as instruments.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 80sfan on 02/15/17 at 11:07 pm


I used to feel like this until I didn't. Look. The Beatles and Elvis were just as much products as Katy Perry is. You might even argue that they were more of a product. The thing is is that they broke barriers that won't be broken again for a long, long time if ever. What other barriers are there now that could be broken besides that which is socially unacceptable or technologically oriented?

There are thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of artists that play instruments making interesting music but while everyone grumble about there being no great new artists, great new artists go under the radar until they finally disband or stop producing, or stop sharing. If everyone that complained about music these days put in the little work it takes to find talented unknown artists and shared them with their friends, the Top 40 wouldn't be what it is.

Most, if not all, of the people in the Top 40 are musicians. Just because they make music you don't like doesn't make them anything less. And yes, the throat, tongue, teeth, nose, diaphragm, all count as instruments.


Nice to see someone I agree with on this. I mean, look at the 1980's. The technology at the time was considered 'high tech' and that didn't stop great pop songs from being released in the 1980's. There are tons of great songs from the 1980's, some that have become classics. Lots of people love 1980's music, whether it's rock, pop, or R&B! The slick, new, technology of the 80's didn't stop the 1980's from becoming a great decade for music!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 02/15/17 at 11:40 pm


Musicians need to stop relying on technology so much. The most creative and innovative songs were released during a time without social media, or auto-tune, or even personal computers. Look at what musicians such as Elvis Presley and The Beatles managed to accomplish during their respective times. You could argue that musicians use technology as much as they do, because it's the sign of the times, but if you don't have the natural talent to be a musician and have the ability to be a songwriter, then quite frankly, you shouldn't be in the music industry.

Most of the artists/bands in the Top-40 charts at the moment, have no natural talent. Rather than being musicians, they are "brands". For instance, Katy Perry is a "brand", because even though she can release a really ordinary track ("Chained to the Rhythm"), she has the ability to make products sell and to produce a profit for the music studios and producers.

I agree with you. Mainstream music isn't about making good music, it's about selling their brand and ideas to consumers. It's not real music, just noise people like to listen to when drunk in the club. It's not that I hate all mainstream music, but there is a clear distinction between mainstream and non-mainstream music.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 02/16/17 at 2:18 am


Nice to see someone I agree with on this. I mean, look at the 1980's. The technology at the time was considered 'high tech' and that didn't stop great pop songs from being released in the 1980's. There are tons of great songs from the 1980's, some that have become classics. Lots of people love 1980's music, whether it's rock, pop, or R&B! The slick, new, technology of the 80's didn't stop the 1980's from becoming a great decade for music!


That's because mainstream musicians at the time put an emphasis on songwriting and using their own natural talents. The technology was complimentary, not something that dominated the entire song. Do you really think artists like Ariana Grande care about songwriting over producing the 'right kind of beat and sound'? No, because as Slowpoke stated earlier, most mainstream artists nowadays don't write their own songs; someone else does it for them. That's the key difference. I'm sorry, but you can't compare songs such as "Tainted Love" or "Electric Blue" with "Closer" or "Chained to the Rhythm".

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/16/17 at 6:52 am

The idea of music/musicians being no more than just products is something that has existed for a long time. And even in the '80s people would let the technology dominate their entire song. It's why things such as Synthpop got huge. Synthesizers,drum machines etc were used instead of actual instruments in a lot of 80s songs (not saying the 80s music never used instruments, but there are a lot of them that didn't). Mainstream music is like a lot of other mainstream things. As in it mainly exists to sell products. Whether or not the product has quality is really subjective, but the product is usually made for business reasons.

Now I hate that a lot of singers don't write their own songs. But their song still gives an impact on culture as millions of people listen to it. I don't like modern music, but then again their were people who didn't like 1990s music in the 1990s and people who didn't like 1980s music in the 1980s. Saying things like the previous decades before them were better. This will continue to repeat.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 80sfan on 02/16/17 at 10:19 am


That's because mainstream musicians at the time put an emphasis on songwriting and using their own natural talents. The technology was complimentary, not something that dominated the entire song. Do you really think artists like Ariana Grande care about songwriting over producing the 'right kind of beat and sound'? No, because as Slowpoke stated earlier, most mainstream artists nowadays don't write their own songs; someone else does it for them. That's the key difference. I'm sorry, but you can't compare songs such as "Tainted Love" or "Electric Blue" with "Closer" or "Chained to the Rhythm".


The problem is we need leaders in music instead of followers. And music's savior sure ain't going to be me, my singing is horrible!  ;D

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/16/17 at 12:01 pm

If anyone believes they've found better music, post it here. There's tons and tons of great artists on youtube, soundcloud, bandcamp, and spotify and they are all looking for their big break.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/16/17 at 12:26 pm


Nice to see someone I agree with on this. I mean, look at the 1980's. The technology at the time was considered 'high tech' and that didn't stop great pop songs from being released in the 1980's. There are tons of great songs from the 1980's, some that have become classics. Lots of people love 1980's music, whether it's rock, pop, or R&B! The slick, new, technology of the 80's didn't stop the 1980's from becoming a great decade for music!


You know what the biggest songs were when I became conscious enough to notice pop music?

http://www.billboard.com/archive/charts/1989/hot-100

Never depend on the mainstream for your music.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/16/17 at 2:05 pm


You know what the biggest songs were when I became conscious enough to notice pop music?

http://www.billboard.com/archive/charts/1989/hot-100

Never depend on the mainstream for your music.


There are tons of great songs on that chart! 1989 was a fantastic year!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/16/17 at 2:47 pm


There are tons of great songs on that chart! 1989 was a fantastic year!


Well, duh. It's probably why I love Top 40 music so much.  ;)

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/16/17 at 2:48 pm

In 20 years, people will only remember the good pop from the 2010s.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Howard on 02/16/17 at 3:43 pm


There are tons of great songs on that chart! 1989 was a fantastic year!


good year for Hip Hop.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/17/17 at 11:57 am


If anyone believes they've found better music, post it here. There's tons and tons of great artists on youtube, soundcloud, bandcamp, and spotify and they are all looking for their big break.


Be careful when you say that. I may end up posting a million links of youtube, soundcloud, bandcamp etc. A lot of online music is great as unlike the mainstream a lot of people online actually give variety in their tracks.

This is what I'm listening to right now.
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Gotta have that Electro Swing in my life. If you're curious on any Electro Swing artists you can check up Parov Stelar, Funky Panda, Caravan Palace, Peggy Suave and more.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/17/17 at 10:08 pm


Be careful when you say that. I may end up posting a million links of youtube, soundcloud, bandcamp etc. A lot of online music is great as unlike the mainstream a lot of people online actually give variety in their tracks.

This is what I'm listening to right now.

Gotta have that Electro Swing in my life. If you're curious on any Electro Swing artists you can check up Parov Stelar, Funky Panda, Caravan Palace, Peggy Suave and more.


You're different. You actually provide new music that you do like. Most of the other new music haters just complain.You are in a different league. The Caravan Palace one is good.

Speaking of new music, I can't wait for the new Dirty Projectors album.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/17/17 at 11:31 pm


Well, duh. It's probably why I love Top 40 music so much.  ;)


Oh, good. The way you phrased it sounded like a slant against 1989's hits. :P


good year for Hip Hop.


One of my favorites! I love 1989 hip hop!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/18/17 at 10:18 am


You're different. You actually provide new music that you do like. Most of the other new music haters just complain.You are in a different league. The Caravan Palace one is good.

Speaking of new music, I can't wait for the new Dirty Projectors album.

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Thanks.  ;D What I like is that even though they're all Electro Swing they all still sound different from one another. I think the problem has to do with the mainstream music industry. Now mainstream music has always been a business first and music second, but it's easy to tell when the business side ends up taking a more control than the actual music. Business is a monkey see monkey do thing. I assume this may constribute to all songs sound too similar. If one style is famous a lot of other companies want to do it. Either this or the actual artists just lack creativity. However with online music it's not so much as a business. Now some artists actually sale their tracks, but these artists are independent from big companies. So the actual music takes more control than the business side of music. On youtube, bandcamp, and soundcloud a lot of artists give their music out for free. They just want to make some good beats and let people listen.

I'm a New Jack Swing guy so I do like to search for some New Jack Swing type beats online from time to time. And behold at what I end up finding.
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It's gotten to the point where besides a few mainstream artists most of my current library includes youtube, soundcloud, and bandcamp songs.  Tired of the genres that you hear today? Online music got you cover. It's why I no longer say like "Modern music sucks". Online music is a part of modern music. And online music is amazing. Sure these songs are being shoved down people's throats on radios and commercials like mainstream music, but I don't see how this is a bad thing. Now if only mainstream music artists would take a few things from online artists. Mainstream music would have some variety to it.

As for those Dirty Projectors songs you posted I do like the sound of them. Sounds like something I'd let play while I'm trying to relax after a busy day. And I do love those kind of songs.  8)

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/18/17 at 4:39 pm

Was in a video game mood and wanted to see if I could find any songs online of people who'd get a game song and make their own version with lyrics and stuff.

The original version from the game (also the icing on this cake is that the this is New Jack Swing Inspired  8) )
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Here is a lyric reinterpretation of the above song
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Now I can understand is this kind of music to taste of anyone on here, but I suppose that is what happens with the amount of variety online music can give. Almost everyday I'm finding tracks I just can't stop listening to. I have a folder having nothing but music that I found from youtube/bandcamp/soundcloud and it has over 4,000 songs. Good thing I purchased the 2TB harddrive.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 02/18/17 at 7:15 pm

Looks like Linkin Park won't be the band who will help spur a change in the Top-40 charts. :( Take a listen to this new song, which was only released on the 16th. It's absolutely horrible, in my opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp00DMy3aVw

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: JordanK1982 on 02/18/17 at 10:19 pm


Looks like Linkin Park won't be the band who will help spur a change in the Top-40 charts. :( Take a listen to this new song, which was only released on the 16th. It's absolutely horrible, in my opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp00DMy3aVw


Haha, jesus!! This sounds like a song by the Weekend or Justin Bieber! Maybe a Fred Durst track will follow in this direction?

Papa Roach have seem to brought back the rap into their new music so it's Infest/LoveHateTragedy all over again... :-\\

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/19/17 at 5:12 pm


Looks like Linkin Park won't be the band who will help spur a change in the Top-40 charts. :( Take a listen to this new song, which was only released on the 16th. It's absolutely horrible, in my opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp00DMy3aVw


Wow. This is sad. It sounds like a gnash song and Gnash is terrible.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 02/24/17 at 12:42 pm

Current Billboard Top 10 (US) week of March 4, 2017

1. Ed Sheeran - Shape of You (5/10, really boring)

2. ZAYN & Taylor Swift - I Don't Wanna Live Forever (6/10, it's pretty generic, but it doesn't annoy me)

3. Migos & Lil Uzi Vert - Bad and Boujee (2/10, I actually like some rap, but this is just terrible)

4. Katy Perry - Chained to the Rhythm (7/10, I like this song even though I don't like Katy Perry, very disco like)

5. The Chainsmokers - Closer (4/10, most overplayed song of the past five years)

6. Machine Gun Kelly & Camila Cabello - Bad Things (3/10, really generic, bad rapping, and irritating singing)

7. Bruno Mars - That's What I Like (8/10, am I the only who gets major 2000's R&B vibes from this song?)

8. Rihanna - Love On the Brain (8.5/10, I'm not a fan of Rihanna, but I love this song, reminds me of Etta James.)

9. The Weeknd & Daft Punk - I Feel It Coming (8.25/10, I really love this song, The Weeknd, and Daft Punk.)

10. Big Sean - Bounce Back (6/10, It's okay, doesn't bother me, but I wouldn't listen to this by my own choice.)

I personally think this is the best top 10 we've had in a while, four of the ten songs draw a lot of influence from older music as well, is that going to become a trend?


Billboard Top 10 (US) ten years ago the week of March 3rd, 2007

1. Justin Timberlake - What Goes Around.. Comes Around (8/10, I like this song, may be part nostalgia though)

2. Ludacris & Mary J Blige - Runaway Love (7/10, first time hearing it, I like it)

3. Nelly Furtado - Say It Right (7.5/10)

4. The Dixie Chicks - Not Ready to Make Nice (3/10, I dislike this, I heard it overplayed a lot and find it annoying.)

5. Akon - Don't Matter (5/10, It's okay, I don't like how he used the tune of Ignition (Remix) on some of it)

6. Gwen Stefani & Akon - The Sweet Escape (7/10, another nostalgia fueled one, lol)

7. Daughtry - It's Not Over (7.5/10, I like this song even though it's kind of cheesy and generic)

8. Gym Class Heroes & Patrick Stump - Cupid's Chomehold (8/10, this really is a biased list guys, 07 was like the peak of my childhood)

9. Beyoncé - Irreplaceable (7.5/10, don't make fun of me ;D)

10. Fall Out Boy - This Ain't a Scene, It's an Arms Race (6.5/10, forgot about this song, I haven't heard this song in at least 7 years)


57.75/100 for week of March 4, 2017

66/100 for week of March 3, 2007


So neither have absolutely amazing top 10s imo, but I think that's how it's always been.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 02/24/17 at 1:30 pm

Music was way better 10 years ago than it is today in all ways. It also had more variety.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 02/24/17 at 1:40 pm


Music was way better 10 years ago than it is today in all ways. It also had more variety.


Ten years ago was the peak of my childhood, so I'm a bit biased, but I agree. :)

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 02/24/17 at 5:57 pm

Current ARIA Top 10 (Aus) week of 20th February 2017.

1. Shape of You - Ed Sheeran
2. Castle on the Hill - Ed Sheeran
3. I Don't Wanna Live Forever - Zayn & Taylor Swift
4. Chained to the Rhythm - Katy Perry
5. Paris - The Chainsmokers
6. Chameleon - Pnau (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2pp_ZAk6Uw)
7. Issues - Julia Michaels
8. Adore - Amy Shark (What a crappy name for an artist/musician) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-IoluTnuKs)
9. Rockabye - Clean Bandit feat. Sean Paul & Anne-Marie
10. Fresh Eyes - Andy Grammer

Interestingly enough, there are actually quite a few noticeable differences between the Top 10 Billboard & Aria Charts. The charts are generally very similar to each other.


Current Billboard Top 10 (US) week of March 4, 2017

1. Ed Sheeran - Shape of You (5/10, really boring)

2. ZAYN & Taylor Swift - I Don't Wanna Live Forever (6/10, it's pretty generic, but it doesn't annoy me)

3. Migos & Lil Uzi Vert - Bad and Boujee (2/10, I actually like some rap, but this is just terrible)

4. Katy Perry - Chained to the Rhythm (7/10, I like this song even though I don't like Katy Perry, very disco like)

5. The Chainsmokers - Closer (4/10, most overplayed song of the past five years)

6. Machine Gun Kelly & Camila Cabello - Bad Things (3/10, really generic, bad rapping, and irritating singing)

7. Bruno Mars - That's What I Like (8/10, am I the only who gets major 2000's R&B vibes from this song?)

8. Rihanna - Love On the Brain (8.5/10, I'm not a fan of Rihanna, but I love this song, reminds me of Etta James.)

9. The Weeknd & Daft Punk - I Feel It Coming (8.25/10, I really love this song, The Weeknd, and Daft Punk.)

10. Big Sean - Bounce Back (6/10, It's okay, doesn't bother me, but I wouldn't listen to this by my own choice.)

I personally think this is the best top 10 we've had in a while, four of the ten songs draw a lot of influence from older music as well, is that going to become a trend?


It's hard to say really. There have been a fair few songs released throughout this decade which have drawn influence from older releases. Personally, I wouldn't really say that it's a trend unique to 2017, although, who knows what the charts might be like later on in the year.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 02/24/17 at 7:36 pm

So far there aren't really any changes in popular music. I wonder if there will be changes by the time summer comes.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 02/24/17 at 8:10 pm


Current ARIA Top 10 (Aus) week of 20th February 2017.

1. Shape of You - Ed Sheeran
2. Castle on the Hill - Ed Sheeran
3. I Don't Wanna Live Forever - Zayn & Taylor Swift
4. Chained to the Rhythm - Katy Perry
5. Paris - The Chainsmokers
6. Chameleon - Pnau (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2pp_ZAk6Uw)
7. Issues - Julia Michaels
8. Adore - Amy Shark (What a crappy name for an artist/musician) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-IoluTnuKs)
9. Rockabye - Clean Bandit feat. Sean Paul & Anne-Marie
10. Fresh Eyes - Andy Grammer

Interestingly enough, there are actually quite a few noticeable differences between the Top 10 Billboard & Aria Charts. The charts are generally very similar to each other.

It's hard to say really. There have been a fair few songs released throughout this decade which have drawn influence from older releases. Personally, I wouldn't really say that it's a trend unique to 2017, although, who knows what the charts might be like later on in the year.


Hmm, I've never heard that Chameleon song before I clicked on that link, and on the differences, yeah, I agree.

There have been a lot of songs that have drawn influence from older music this decade, that's true. We'll see how things turn out.


So far there aren't really any changes in popular music. I wonder if there will be changes by the time summer comes.


I think all the changes have been slow, but there have been some, dancehall has gotten a lot bigger this past year having a lot of influence, but overall, there's been nothing major, I agree.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 02/24/17 at 8:16 pm


Hmm, I've never heard that Chameleon song before I clicked on that link, and on the differences, yeah, I agree.

There have been a lot of songs that have drawn influence from older music this decade, that's true. We'll see how things turn out.

I think all the changes have been slow, but there have been some, dancehall has gotten a lot bigger this past year having a lot of influence, but overall, there's been nothing major, I agree.

Yeah that was the only change that happened in 2016 but it was very minor. We still have trap that was popular in the mid 10s and all the other artists and songs. Plus dancehall was popular in early/mid 2016 which is still mid 10s.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/26/17 at 3:40 pm

Maybe in the future music may make a slight step away from the electronic dominating sound. Since the 1980s-present (although you can see some tech influence in sound during the  1960s-1970s) day a lot of artists would let the technology dominated their sounds (not saying this is a bad thing, but it's easy to see how this CAN be the case especially today) and around the 1980s a lot of bands stopped making music using actual instruments and mainly using sounds from keyboards, synthesizers, and drum machines. Songs were seen as "overly produced" in the 1980s with popular effects such as reverbing, electronic rhythms, delays etc. And the overproduced musical sound still exists today. Artists that literally just throw a bunch of electronic sounds in their track to the point where it sounds unbearable especially with the use of things such as Auto-Tune or Lo fi sound. As of lately I've been noticing that a lot of new genres or updates to genres are all mainly electronic based. Electro Swing, Electro Pop, Electro House, Hip Hop dominated by Electronic sounds, Electronic remixes and blah blah blah. All genres that literally are updated purely on technological bases. Now I love Electronic music (been on an unhealthy Vaporwave and Electro Swing) binge , but I am bothered by the fact that a lot (not ALL, but a LOT) of mainstream Electronic music sounds samey. But in order for music to progress I think we may have to move from an the electronic mindset. I do like how even in the 1980s most artists used tech on ways to add to their music. Back then the tech revolved around the artist.  These days the artists revolve around the tech (if this makes sense at all). In the 1980s the usage of the technological sound was based on the artist and his/her creative way of making music. It's why in the 1980s there was variety in sound. Today the artists are influenced by the technological sounds instead of their creative way of making music for the most part (again not all artists are like this, but this does apply to a lot of them) which is why a lot of music tends to sound the same. Take the Golden Age of Hip Hop during the late 1980s-early 1990s. During this era technology was a big part of music by this point, but a lot of the Hip Hop tracks were said to "be unique, creative, and it felt like a lot of new tracks would reinvent the genre in a new way". Not hard to see why the 2010s aren't part of a Hip Hop Golden Age (Although this pretty subjective I'll admit).

To move forward I think we either need to go back to using actual instruments again OR go back to having it technology revolved around the artist and the music wasn't so overproduced. New decades do tend to have backlashes to previous decades, right? I'm sure when a 2010s backlash occurs int he 2020s as people criticize the 10's pop culture maybe we'll get a new sound in music. Although this is just wishful thinking and there may be a chance that music will follow the same problem of today. I just hope we go back to having new trends and creative variety in music again. Now I didn't say that I wish for music to get "good" again mainly since I am aware that what counts as good is very opinionated. Heck, I bet my reasons for disliking modern music will be very different from everyone elses who may like/dislike the music. Some say economic status effects things like music. Notice how in a lot of eras with economic growth music trends to be more creative then the onces with economic decline. Although this CAN be argued against as eras such as the 1930s had the Great Depression yet in there 1930s the Swing Jazz era was born and is sighted as a great era for music. So as for why music rises and falls is anyone's guess and there are not truly wrong answers.

Anyways this is just something I've given some thought about.



TLDR version - If music doesn't get good again I'm gonna start an assault and kill all the puppies on this planet.  >:(

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/27/17 at 10:27 pm

I just wanna, again, put it out there that there has never been a time in my life where most people weren't bitching about popular music. It seems that people don't appreciate current music until a new phase a music they like even less comes along. I think you guys are just gonna have to join me and accept that you're probably never gonna get what you got again except in small doses here and there. Music is gonna change because everything changes. There's just a good chance that the change won't be all you hoped for.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 02/27/17 at 10:58 pm


TLDR version - If music doesn't get good again I'm gonna start an assault and kill all the puppies on this planet.  >:(


Reported.

Also my Discover Weekly was absolute trash this week so I'm pretty annoyed too. Thankfully I have Lana Del Ray to get me through these troubled times.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 80sfan on 02/28/17 at 12:05 am


Maybe in the future music may make a slight step away from the electronic dominating sound. Since the 1980s-present (although you can see some tech influence in sound during the  1960s-1970s) day a lot of artists would let the technology dominated their sounds (not saying this is a bad thing, but it's easy to see how this CAN be the case especially today) and around the 1980s a lot of bands stopped making music using actual instruments and mainly using sounds from keyboards, synthesizers, and drum machines. Songs were seen as "overly produced" in the 1980s with popular effects such as reverbing, electronic rhythms, delays etc. And the overproduced musical sound still exists today. Artists that literally just throw a bunch of electronic sounds in their track to the point where it sounds unbearable especially with the use of things such as Auto-Tune or Lo fi sound. As of lately I've been noticing that a lot of new genres or updates to genres are all mainly electronic based. Electro Swing, Electro Pop, Electro House, Hip Hop dominated by Electronic sounds, Electronic remixes and blah blah blah. All genres that literally are updated purely on technological bases. Now I love Electronic music (been on an unhealthy Vaporwave and Electro Swing) binge , but I am bothered by the fact that a lot (not ALL, but a LOT) of mainstream Electronic music sounds samey. But in order for music to progress I think we may have to move from an the electronic mindset. I do like how even in the 1980s most artists used tech on ways to add to their music. Back then the tech revolved around the artist.  These days the artists revolve around the tech (if this makes sense at all). In the 1980s the usage of the technological sound was based on the artist and his/her creative way of making music. It's why in the 1980s there was variety in sound. Today the artists are influenced by the technological sounds instead of their creative way of making music for the most part (again not all artists are like this, but this does apply to a lot of them) which is why a lot of music tends to sound the same. Take the Golden Age of Hip Hop during the late 1980s-early 1990s. During this era technology was a big part of music by this point, but a lot of the Hip Hop tracks were said to "be unique, creative, and it felt like a lot of new tracks would reinvent the genre in a new way". Not hard to see why the 2010s aren't part of a Hip Hop Golden Age (Although this pretty subjective I'll admit).

To move forward I think we either need to go back to using actual instruments again OR go back to having it technology revolved around the artist and the music wasn't so overproduced. New decades do tend to have backlashes to previous decades, right? I'm sure when a 2010s backlash occurs int he 2020s as people criticize the 10's pop culture maybe we'll get a new sound in music. Although this is just wishful thinking and there may be a chance that music will follow the same problem of today. I just hope we go back to having new trends and creative variety in music again. Now I didn't say that I wish for music to get "good" again mainly since I am aware that what counts as good is very opinionated. Heck, I bet my reasons for disliking modern music will be very different from everyone elses who may like/dislike the music. Some say economic status effects things like music. Notice how in a lot of eras with economic growth music trends to be more creative then the onces with economic decline. Although this CAN be argued against as eras such as the 1930s had the Great Depression yet in there 1930s the Swing Jazz era was born and is sighted as a great era for music. So as for why music rises and falls is anyone's guess and there are not truly wrong answers.

Anyways this is just something I've given some thought about.



TLDR version - If music doesn't get good again I'm gonna start an assault and kill all the puppies on this planet.  >:(


I actually hope that the 2010's will be ignored and there will be no backlash. Just act like it did not exist! Hocus Pocus!  ;D  ;D  :)

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 80sfan on 02/28/17 at 12:10 am

There were websites back in the 1990's that bickered about how boring and terrible music was back then, I think.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 80sfan on 02/28/17 at 12:16 am


Maybe in the future music may make a slight step away from the electronic dominating sound. Since the 1980s-present (although you can see some tech influence in sound during the  1960s-1970s) day a lot of artists would let the technology dominated their sounds (not saying this is a bad thing, but it's easy to see how this CAN be the case especially today) and around the 1980s a lot of bands stopped making music using actual instruments and mainly using sounds from keyboards, synthesizers, and drum machines. Songs were seen as "overly produced" in the 1980s with popular effects such as reverbing, electronic rhythms, delays etc. And the overproduced musical sound still exists today. Artists that literally just throw a bunch of electronic sounds in their track to the point where it sounds unbearable especially with the use of things such as Auto-Tune or Lo fi sound. As of lately I've been noticing that a lot of new genres or updates to genres are all mainly electronic based. Electro Swing, Electro Pop, Electro House, Hip Hop dominated by Electronic sounds, Electronic remixes and blah blah blah. All genres that literally are updated purely on technological bases. Now I love Electronic music (been on an unhealthy Vaporwave and Electro Swing) binge , but I am bothered by the fact that a lot (not ALL, but a LOT) of mainstream Electronic music sounds samey. But in order for music to progress I think we may have to move from an the electronic mindset. I do like how even in the 1980s most artists used tech on ways to add to their music. Back then the tech revolved around the artist.  These days the artists revolve around the tech (if this makes sense at all). In the 1980s the usage of the technological sound was based on the artist and his/her creative way of making music. It's why in the 1980s there was variety in sound. Today the artists are influenced by the technological sounds instead of their creative way of making music for the most part (again not all artists are like this, but this does apply to a lot of them) which is why a lot of music tends to sound the same. Take the Golden Age of Hip Hop during the late 1980s-early 1990s. During this era technology was a big part of music by this point, but a lot of the Hip Hop tracks were said to "be unique, creative, and it felt like a lot of new tracks would reinvent the genre in a new way". Not hard to see why the 2010s aren't part of a Hip Hop Golden Age (Although this pretty subjective I'll admit).

To move forward I think we either need to go back to using actual instruments again OR go back to having it technology revolved around the artist and the music wasn't so overproduced. New decades do tend to have backlashes to previous decades, right? I'm sure when a 2010s backlash occurs int he 2020s as people criticize the 10's pop culture maybe we'll get a new sound in music. Although this is just wishful thinking and there may be a chance that music will follow the same problem of today. I just hope we go back to having new trends and creative variety in music again. Now I didn't say that I wish for music to get "good" again mainly since I am aware that what counts as good is very opinionated. Heck, I bet my reasons for disliking modern music will be very different from everyone elses who may like/dislike the music. Some say economic status effects things like music. Notice how in a lot of eras with economic growth music trends to be more creative then the onces with economic decline. Although this CAN be argued against as eras such as the 1930s had the Great Depression yet in there 1930s the Swing Jazz era was born and is sighted as a great era for music. So as for why music rises and falls is anyone's guess and there are not truly wrong answers.

Anyways this is just something I've given some thought about.



TLDR version - If music doesn't get good again I'm gonna start an assault and kill all the puppies on this planet.  >:(


Perhaps it's my youth/adolescent bias, but I'm starting to appreciate the 00's more.  :-X  :D

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/28/17 at 2:00 am


Reported.

Also my Discover Weekly was absolute trash this week so I'm pretty annoyed too. Thankfully I have Lana Del Ray to get me through these troubled times.


My Discover Weekly used to be cool but now most of the songs sound the same. :(

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/28/17 at 6:58 am

I feel like this is my favorite song of the 2010s now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHvGpxOMN6U

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/28/17 at 11:11 am


Perhaps it's my youth/adolescent bias, but I'm starting to appreciate the 00's more.  :-X  :D


I guess the nostalgia is starting to kick in more. We are edging closer to the '20s. And usually around 15-20 years after a decade has started nostalgia kicks it. I'd go as far to say that nostalgia for the first half of the '00s is nearly mainstream at this point. 

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 02/28/17 at 11:16 am


I guess the nostalgia is starting to kick in more. We are edging closer to the '20s. And usually around 15-20 years after a decade has started nostalgia kicks it. I'd go as far to say that nostalgia for the first half of the '00s is nearly mainstream at this point.

I think nostalgia can start 8 - 10 years after a decade has started (even less than that depending on age) but the mainstream retro phase is usually after around 20 years.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 80sfan on 02/28/17 at 1:00 pm


I guess the nostalgia is starting to kick in more. We are edging closer to the '20s. And usually around 15-20 years after a decade has started nostalgia kicks it. I'd go as far to say that nostalgia for the first half of the '00s is nearly mainstream at this point.


I wouldn't say I'm nostalgic yet for the early 00's. But yeah, 2002 seems like 'another time' now.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Baltimoreian on 02/28/17 at 1:34 pm


I guess the nostalgia is starting to kick in more. We are edging closer to the '20s. And usually around 15-20 years after a decade has started nostalgia kicks it. I'd go as far to say that nostalgia for the first half of the '00s is nearly mainstream at this point.


It depends on what the Internet thinks, since some people think the early 2000s are 2000-2006 for some reason.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/28/17 at 2:06 pm


I think nostalgia can start 8 - 10 years after a decade has started (even less than that depending on age) but the mainstream retro phase is usually after around 20 years.


I can see some people being nostalgic after 8 - 10 years. It's 2017 and some are starting to appreciate the late 2000s. The late 2000s may feel similar to the 2010s, but I suppose that doesn't mean people can't look back on the era with praise. Especially with a lot of the new stuff that was coming in at the time.


I wouldn't say I'm nostalgic yet for the early 00's. But yeah, 2002 seems like 'another time' now.


2002 certainly is nothing like 2017 to me. And despite knowing this is true I still feel odd saying it. I'm nostalgic for 2002 due to loving the culture trends such as the Y2K Futurism, X-Treme sports, 6th gen consoles, cartoons, learning more about the internet and some personal life moments. As a 12 year old it was great.


It depends on what the Internet thinks, since some people think the early 2000s are 2000-2006 for some reason.


If only people stopped to think about that.

Early 1990s is 1990-1993 to everyone. But for the 2000s the early part is 2000-2006??!?!?!? When 2000s nostalgia fully gets into mainstream this needs to be fixed. I don't wanna hear any like "I love them old early 2000s shows like Hanna Montana".  >:(

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 02/28/17 at 2:24 pm


My Discover Weekly used to be cool but now most of the songs sound the same. :(


I listened to way too much nostalgic Y2K era teen pop the past week and the list is absolutely ruined. ;D

You know when you see that the first song in the playlist is by Miley Cyrus that it's going to be a bad week.  :\'( Spotify thinks I'm a chick. ;D

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Lizardmatum on 02/28/17 at 4:04 pm

I think I'm in love with Lana Del Rey's new song https://youtu.be/3-NTv0CdFCk

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 03/01/17 at 1:54 am

So far there hasn't been a single release from this year which I like. :( I was hoping Linkin Park's new single would be good, but I was proven wrong...


Early 1990s is 1990-1993 to everyone.


My Dad has referred to 1994 and 1995 as being the "Early 90s" on a few occasions.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/01/17 at 6:54 am


I can see some people being nostalgic after 8 - 10 years. It's 2017 and some are starting to appreciate the late 2000s. The late 2000s may feel similar to the 2010s, but I suppose that doesn't mean people can't look back on the era with praise. Especially with a lot of the new stuff that was coming in at the time.


2007 doesn't seem to be that related towards the early 2010s though.


Early 1990s is 1990-1993 to everyone. But for the 2000s the early part is 2000-2006??!?!?!? When 2000s nostalgia fully gets into mainstream this needs to be fixed. I don't wanna hear any like "I love them old early 2000s shows like Hanna Montana".  >:(


A lot of people probably see the early 2000s as 2000-2003. The only people who do see it as 2000-2006 are late 90s/early 00s babies on Youtube. Even I have to disagree with them, since 2004-2006 was more dominated towards broadband Internet while 2000-2003 is more dial-up.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/01/17 at 6:57 am


So far there hasn't been a single release from this year which I like. :( I was hoping Linkin Park's new single would be good, but I was proven wrong...


At least there is Amy Lee's new single that was released a couple weeks ago.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: mqg96 on 03/01/17 at 8:31 am

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 03/01/17 at 8:49 am


So far there hasn't been a single release from this year which I like. :( I was hoping Linkin Park's new single would be good, but I was proven wrong...


Sounds like someone hasn't listened to the new Lana Del Ray!


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That sounds very mid-2000s ;D

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 03/01/17 at 8:52 am

Rihanna – Love On The Brain

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I like it!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Baltimoreian on 03/01/17 at 10:37 am


That sounds very mid-2000s ;D


Not unless you lived in America.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/01/17 at 1:10 pm


Sounds like someone hasn't listened to the new Lana Del Ray!

That sounds very mid-2000s ;D


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We've reached peak hipster, folks.

Holy Scheisse.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 03/02/17 at 12:27 am


Sounds like someone hasn't listened to the new Lana Del Ray!


If it's not a rock song, then I choose not to listen to new releases. :P

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/02/17 at 12:43 am


If it's not a rock song, then I choose not to listen to new releases. :P


Damn. Life is too short to limit yourself like that.  :(

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 03/02/17 at 12:49 am


Damn. Like is too short to limit yourself like that.  :(

Yeah I like listening to a variety of genres myself.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 03/02/17 at 1:03 am


Damn. Like is too short to limit yourself like that.  :(


I understand what you're saying, but the majority of new releases on the Top-40 charts are rubbish and when compared to songs released in the mid-late 20th Century, are not of good quality. Ed Sheeran's songs all sound relatively similar to each other, Katy Perry's new song ("Chained to the Rhythm") is torture to the ears and then the remainder of the songs are released by crappy 'artists' such as 'DJ Snake' (seriously, what kind of name is that?) and Ariana Grande. Adele and Lady Gaga are probably the only current popular musicians whom I appreciate and have respect for, even though I don't particularly like any of their songs.

I just wish that there was variety on the Top-40 charts, so that it would cater for people of all music tastes, not just people who like EDM. Not only that, but I wish popular musicians (apart from Adele and Lady Gaga, to an extent) would put a lot of thought and creativity into their songs. Instead of only ever hearing new releases from wimpy people in their late teens/early 20s, I wish there were more Top-40 releases from people who actually have natural talent, such as Adele. Sorry for my rant, but I had to share some of my thoughts. :P

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/03/17 at 6:04 pm


I understand what you're saying, but the majority of new releases on the Top-40 charts are rubbish and when compared to songs released in the mid-late 20th Century, are not of good quality. Ed Sheeran's songs all sound relatively similar to each other, Katy Perry's new song ("Chained to the Rhythm") is torture to the ears and then the remainder of the songs are released by crappy 'artists' such as 'DJ Snake' (seriously, what kind of name is that?) and Ariana Grande. Adele and Lady Gaga are probably the only current popular musicians whom I appreciate and have respect for, even though I don't particularly like any of their songs.

I just wish that there was variety on the Top-40 charts, so that it would cater for people of all music tastes, not just people who like EDM. Not only that, but I wish popular musicians (apart from Adele and Lady Gaga, to an extent) would put a lot of thought and creativity into their songs. Instead of only ever hearing new releases from wimpy people in their late teens/early 20s, I wish there were more Top-40 releases from people who actually have natural talent, such as Adele. Sorry for my rant, but I had to share some of my thoughts. :P


The mid to late 20th century was a complete fluke if you ask me. SO MUCH was covered in such a short amount of time. I do agree that pop music is reaching a breaking point tho. A lot of it might have to do with the diversification of channels we can get our music from.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/04/17 at 1:28 am

I was watching a video that blamed Lorde for the current trend in music. Upon listening to Lorde's last album I think the guy has a point. Lorde was the turning point in 2010 music.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 03/04/17 at 2:15 am


I was watching a video that blamed Lorde for the current trend in music. Upon listening to Lorde's last album I think the guy has a point. Lorde was the turning point in 2010 music.


Did you hear her latest? It's kind of good after 4 listens.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 03/04/17 at 2:19 am


NTv0CdFCk

We've reached peak hipster, folks.

Holy Scheisse.


The link is broken, but did you mean to link Lana Del Ray's new song? I've been listening to that daily since it came out. She delivered!! Queen of the late 2010s!! sorry Kellyanne Conway.  8)

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/04/17 at 3:26 am


The link is broken, but did you mean to link Lana Del Ray's new song? I've been listening to that daily since it came out. She delivered!! Queen of the late 2010s!! sorry Kellyanne Conway.  8)


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This video is the most superficial hipster thing I've ever seen in my entire life. A bunch of modelesque millennials prancing around in retro gear as if they were 20-somethings in the late 60s/70s. I'm usually not this cynical but this video is too much.

fyi...Lana has a few good songs and I don't dislike her. She benefits from being her own thing and having no imitators.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 03/04/17 at 10:45 am


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This video is the most superficial hipster thing I've ever seen in my entire life. A bunch of modelesque millennials prancing around in retro gear as if they were 20-somethings in the late 60s/70s. I'm usually not this cynical but this video is too much.

fyi...Lana has a few good songs and I don't dislike her. She benefits from being her own thing and having no imitators.


I think it's supposed to be retro, right down to the car and stuff. The MV is set in the past, I think. ;D

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/04/17 at 11:03 am

Hopefully Hipster culture will lose its grip on music. Gets to the point where they're trying way too hard. A good way of making a modern song with a slight retro vibe would be the 24K Magic by Bruno Mars. The song has its 70s/early 80s Disco influences in it yet it still sounds pretty modern and doesn't feel like it was made by a hipster.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/04/17 at 4:30 pm


Hopefully Hipster culture will lose its grip on music. Gets to the point where they're trying way too hard. A good way of making a modern song with a slight retro vibe would be the 24K Magic by Bruno Mars. The song has its 70s/early 80s Disco influences in it yet it still sounds pretty modern and doesn't feel like it was made by a hipster.


I mean this in all earnestness. What do you guys consider to be hipster culture because I think I have a very different notion of what qualifies as hipster. I kinda get the fashion aspect but I'm not really seeing hipster culture anywhere else. At least, not in high doses. That Lana Del Rey video is what I qualify as hipster overload to the point of vomit.

I would totally be cool with pop culture turning "future retro". I think that's the only way people are gonna be happy since everyone wants the 60s-90s back.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 03/04/17 at 5:41 pm


I mean this in all earnestness. What do you guys consider to be hipster culture because I think I have a very different notion of what qualifies as hipster. I kinda get the fashion aspect but I'm not really seeing hipster culture anywhere else. At least, not in high doses. That Lana Del Rey video is what I qualify as hipster overload to the point of vomit.

I would totally be cool with pop culture turning "future retro". I think that's the only way people are gonna be happy since everyone wants the 60s-90s back.

The reason I think hipster movement is dying is because there are less hipster songs. Hipster music is the opposite of Ariana Grande and EDM. Hipster music is like Twenty One Pilots.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/04/17 at 5:57 pm

I want the pop world to accept Alan Palomo/Neon Indian for the pop culture genius that he is. But I'm just gonna have to accept that he'll forever remain "indie famous".

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Here are some artists that have the potential to be a part of "the future" who I think are alright and pretty good:

Jake Bugg

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Jain

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Anderson .Paak

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/04/17 at 7:55 pm


The reason I think hipster movement is dying is because there are less hipster songs. Hipster music is the opposite of Ariana Grande and EDM. Hipster music is like Twenty One Pilots.


Yep. You guys have a very different notion of what constitutes as hipster.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/05/17 at 6:51 pm

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 03/05/17 at 6:53 pm


Yep. You guys have a very different notion of what constitutes as hipster.


You have a hipster definition of hipster :P

On mobile atm but I'll make time to listen to the songs you posted.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/05/17 at 7:23 pm


You have a hipster definition of hipster :P

On mobile atm but I'll make time to listen to the songs you posted.


lol. I know that. I don't dress like what I qualify as a hipster but I do have what I qualify as hipster music tastes.

I'm not the only one that has my opinion tho. Google "hipster music". THAT'S a list of indie-famous hipster music. I'll admit that a lot of those bands aren't as buzzworthy as they use to be.

Twenty One Pilots sound like a band that would chart in the top 10. tHipster artists rarely reach the top 10 but it does happen from time to time. (Gnarls Barkley, Daft Punk, Macklemore, Goyte, Baauer). .

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 03/11/17 at 12:06 am

The Weeknd's new music video has a couple vaporwave vibes. Mainly at the begining of the video. It may already be starting.  :o

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: mqg96 on 03/11/17 at 12:09 am


The Weeknd's new music video has a couple vaporwave vibes.

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To those who said vaporwave will get incorporated into mainstream music and culture, looks like you were right. It's already starting.  :o


daft punk, nough said.

Anyway, this sounds like music that would had come out in 2013, or maybe it sounds like a teen pop love song, yikes!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 03/11/17 at 12:16 am


daft punk, nough said.

Anyway, this sounds like music that would had come out in 2013, or maybe it sounds like a teen pop love song, yikes!

I like the song. Sounds like MJ.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: mqg96 on 03/11/17 at 12:23 am


I like the song. Sounds like MJ.


I was about to say, a modern Michael Jackson sounds about right. Good instrumental too.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 03/12/17 at 7:38 pm

The new Katy Perry song is probably the first disco revival song I've actually liked.  Aside from that, it's a sub-genre of pop today that I wish would die, almost as much as Ariana Grande's style of teen pop.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 03/12/17 at 7:49 pm


The mid to late 20th century was a complete fluke if you ask me. SO MUCH was covered in such a short amount of time. I do agree that pop music is reaching a breaking point tho. A lot of it might have to do with the diversification of channels we can get our music from.


I agree.  Music changed at an exponentially faster rate between 1950 and 2000 than it did from 1900 to 1950.  During the first half of the 20th century you only had three real eras.

1900s-early 1920s - Folk era
1920s-early 1930s - Jazz era
1930s-1950 - Swing era (there was also a folk revival during this era, especially during the early 1930s)

By contrast, every decade during the second half of the 20th century ended with a very different dominant sound and set of genres than it began with.  The rate of change began to slow down around 2000.  Despite the changes that occurred at the end of the 2000s, 2009 was a lot closer to 2000 musically than 1999 was to 1990.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 03/12/17 at 10:44 pm


The new Katy Perry song is probably the first disco revival song I've actually liked.  Aside from that, it's a sub-genre of pop today that I wish would die, almost as much as Ariana Grande's style of teen pop.


Chris, you're back! :D And yes, Katy Perry always delivers.  8)

@BornIn86: Whoops, I forgot to listen to those songs you posted.  :-[ That Neon Indian is definitely something I'd like to see become popular. Listening to Jake Bugg now.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 80sfan on 03/12/17 at 10:50 pm


I agree.  Music changed at an exponentially faster rate between 1950 and 2000 than it did from 1900 to 1950.  During the first half of the 20th century you only had three real eras.

1900s-early 1920s - Folk era
1920s-early 1930s - Jazz era
1930s-1950 - Swing era (there was also a folk revival during this era, especially during the early 1930s)

By contrast, every decade during the second half of the 20th century ended with a very different dominant sound and set of genres than it began with.  The rate of change began to slow down around 2000.  Despite the changes that occurred at the end of the 2000s, 2009 was a lot closer to 2000 musically than 1999 was to 1990.


Was there a Big Band era in the 20th century?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 03/13/17 at 9:43 am


Was there a Big Band era in the 20th century?


Big Band falls under "swing".

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/14/17 at 2:20 am


Chris, you're back! :D And yes, Katy Perry always delivers.  8)

@BornIn86: Whoops, I forgot to listen to those songs you posted.  :-[ That Neon Indian is definitely something I'd like to see become popular. Listening to Jake Bugg now.


I'm a huge fan of Neon Indian's last record. It's so retro, fun, interesting, and different take on pop music. I don't know why I expected it to blow up.
Jake Bugg has very interesting vocals. His music has changed into something more mainstream as of late tho, which is a shame. 

I think the genre of music I hate most from this decade is Trap. It's not very poppy and it sounds like something that should have stayed underground. It must be a reaction to the 2000s rap playfulness. I'm not usually in tune with the zeitgeist but it feels like most people are getting pretty tired of trap despite it being at peak levels. I wouldn't be surprised if Top 100 rap in the 2020s turned into something laughably dancey.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/14/17 at 3:15 am

I can't wait for Pitbull's new album! 8)

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/14/17 at 4:46 am

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 03/14/17 at 11:40 am


I'm a huge fan of Neon Indian's last record. It's so retro, fun, interesting, and different take on pop music. I don't know why I expected it to blow up.
Jake Bugg has very interesting vocals. His music has changed into something more mainstream as of late tho, which is a shame. 

I think the genre of music I hate most from this decade is Trap. It's not very poppy and it sounds like something that should have stayed underground. It must be a reaction to the 2000s rap playfulness. I'm not usually in tune with the zeitgeist but it feels like most people are getting pretty tired of trap despite it being at peak levels. I wouldn't be surprised if Top 100 rap in the 2020s turned into something laughably dancey.


I got listening to Jake Bugg last night. I'm not a huge fan of the country-sound, I really liked Bitter Salt though. :)

I'm still not 100% sure as to what trap is and I'm okay with that.  :-X ;D

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/14/17 at 10:30 pm


I got listening to Jake Bugg last night. I'm not a huge fan of the country-sound, I really liked Bitter Salt though. :)

I'm still not 100% sure as to what trap is and I'm okay with that.  :-X ;D


Jake Bugg is more indie folk/rock than country but I get what you mean.

Trap is pretty much all the rap currently in the Top 100. It was okay when it was its little thing. Now trap is THE thing.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 03/15/17 at 11:45 pm

I wonder if bubblegum trap will be even more popular this year. This tracked reached the top 10 on Billboard this week.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 03/16/17 at 2:32 am


I wonder if bubblegum trap will be even more popular this year. This tracked reached the top 10 on Billboard this week.


I haven't listened to the song yet, but judging by the name of the song and the music video, it doesn't look too promising.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Zelek3 on 03/16/17 at 2:39 am

The -7 year of a decade is the one where music often receives a kick in the pants after being stagnant for the past five or so years.

In 67 you had the Summer of Love, 77 the Summer of Punk, 87 the Summer of Grunge, 97 the Summer of Teen Pop, 07 the Summer of EDM. What 2017 is remains to be seen.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 03/16/17 at 9:08 am


I haven't listened to the song yet, but judging by the name of the song and the music video, it doesn't look too promising.

It's alright. I kinda like bubblegum trap, it sounds more rhythmic than the regular version (which sounds all over the place).

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: JordanK1982 on 03/16/17 at 9:25 am


The -7 year of a decade is the one where music often receives a kick in the pants after being stagnant for the past five or so years.

In 67 you had the Summer of Love, 77 the Summer of Punk, 87 the Summer of Grunge, 97 the Summer of Teen Pop, 07 the Summer of EDM. What 2017 is remains to be seen.


Grunge had been around since 84, dude. :P

If anything, it's first big summer was 1985. The Melvins, Soundgarden, Green River and Screaming Trees, among others, took Seattle's underground scene by storm that year. Thing is, in the 80's, even the very late 80's, grunge was only a small silver of alternative music that resided mainly in Seattle and was overlooked in favor of bands like R.E.M., Husker Du, The Replacements, The Cure and The Smiths. The alternative scene in general had been burgeoning since Murmur in 1983. 8)

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/16/17 at 4:54 pm


I haven't listened to the song yet, but judging by the name of the song and the music video, it doesn't look too promising.


lol. If you don't like any of the trap in the Top 100 then I doubt you'll like this song.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 03/26/17 at 1:49 am

Linkin Park have released another new single from the album "One More Light", which is set for release on the 19th May.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7ab595h0AU

As someone who was a massive fan of Linkin Park's music back in the 2000s, it would be a complete understatement to say that these two new singles have been very disappointing for me.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 03/26/17 at 1:55 am


Linkin Park have released another new single from the album "One More Light", which is set for release on the 19th May.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7ab595h0AU

As someone who was a massive fan of Linkin Park's music back in the 2000s, it would be a complete understatement to say that these two new singles have been very disappointing for me.


A lot of times its difficult for has-been bands to come back after many years of hiatus, and if they are successful they usually have a much more niche audience than they did the first time around.  That's pretty much just the way it works in the music world.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: violet_shy on 03/28/17 at 4:22 pm

Currently I've been writing and singing music, and I have written and sung four tracks. The first two are these, they are Dance tracks(modern Dance) with EDM and Electronic. The tracks are Copyrighted by my collaborator who produces the music. The songs are downloadable via yourlisten.com. I have also attached the single cover on this post, that is me on the cover(yay). I would love to read what you all think!

1. "Night Moves": http://yourlisten.com/mar106/jessica-ann-night-moves

2. "Ready set then Go": http://yourlisten.com/mar106/jessica-ann-ready-set-then-go


Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 03/29/17 at 2:31 am

Still praying for a neo-psychedelic revival. It can't happen without the kiddos.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 03/29/17 at 4:11 am


Still praying for a neo-psychedelic revival. It can't happen without the kiddos.

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It's a shame that psychedelic music hasn't achieved mainstream popularity. With Donald Trump becoming President, Brexit being passed, an increase in terrorist attacks and a lack of variety on the music charts, you'd think that time would be ripe for a psychedelic revival of some sorts. Bands such as Tame Impala deserve international stardom, in my opinion.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/29/17 at 1:36 pm

You'd think something like Eurodance songs would come back.

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I swear half of Eurodance sounds like most of today's music due to Eurodance's highly electronic sound. Would mix well with today's electro music.  The  upbeat synthesized melodies, strong female lead vocals and male rapping. I just hope that if it is revived into popularity it would spread further out of Europe. Before it was mainly popular in Europe. Only foreign places with popular were places like Canada and some big US cities like New York and Miami.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 03/30/17 at 12:33 am


I swear half of Eurodance sounds like most of today's music due to Eurodance's highly electronic sound. Would mix well with today's electro music.  The  upbeat synthesized melodies, strong female lead vocals and male rapping. I just hope that if it is revived into popularity it would spread further out of Europe. Before it was mainly popular in Europe. Only foreign places with popular were places like Canada and some big US cities like New York and Miami.


I think there are some distinct differences between '90s Eurodance and '10s music, but there are some songs that have some similarities.  I remember the first time I heard "Bulletproof" in 2010, it reminded me of '90s Eurodance.  I do think that '10s music is the closest we are going to get to a Eurodance revival.  I don't believe even modern Eurodance has the same sound it did in the '90s.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: mqg96 on 03/31/17 at 2:26 pm

This song makes me HUMBLE AF!

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: mqg96 on 03/31/17 at 2:29 pm

and for a bonus here's the DOPE instrumental too!

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and another version of it..

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Looney Toon on 03/31/17 at 2:57 pm


I think there are some distinct differences between '90s Eurodance and '10s music, but there are some songs that have some similarities.  I remember the first time I heard "Bulletproof" in 2010, it reminded me of '90s Eurodance.  I do think that '10s music is the closest we are going to get to a Eurodance revival.  I don't believe even modern Eurodance has the same sound it did in the '90s.


Well then again the issue with modern Eurodance is probably the fact that isn't even Eurodance for the most part. Nowadays we just have
10s music with Eurodance elements, but not fully Eurodance anymore. If a song was to be 100% Eurodance it would probably sound more like the older songs. Although sadly Eurodance is rarely made these days. I'm not entirely sure I've even heard of a modern Eurodance song before. Or atleast not pure Eurodance songs. Mainly just songs with some Eurodance elements.

I think my issue with modern music is how genres have lost their original identity.  Lets take Dance-Pop music. Nowadays we have a interpolation of rap, hip hop and euro dance into pop music, resulting in a sound that is convoluted and/or messy. End up having moments where I'd listen to a song and think "This doesn't sound like the genre it's supposed to be". I've always been wondering how music updates overtime, but in most cases it boils down artists electrifying their sounds and mixing genres with other genres yet still calling it it's original genre name. 

I've noticed that the songs I like the most are ones that don't sound overproduced and messy. Not all modern songs sound like this, though.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: mqg96 on 03/31/17 at 6:24 pm

I'm sure someone has already posted this, but I really love the melody beat of this song and the lyrics. It sounds soooo relaxing like healthy food music.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 04/01/17 at 10:56 am

Here are some new released I've enjoyed:

Many people are saying Kendricks Lamar's new track is a repudiation of trap music

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Ariel Pink And Weyes Blood

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Brokem Social Scene on Colbert

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 04/01/17 at 4:44 pm

Real Estate released In Mind two weeks ago.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 04/04/17 at 1:49 am


Here are some new released I've enjoyed:

Many people are saying Kendricks Lamar's new track is a repudiation of trap music

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This song may just be a game changer. If this goes number 1 for many weeks, trap and the other current trends in music will officially die off this year.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 04/04/17 at 1:51 am


I'm sure someone has already posted this, but I really love the melody beat of this song and the lyrics. It sounds soooo relaxing like healthy food music.

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Shape of You is the most overplayed song I have heard in years. It's good though, it will most likely be the number one song of 2017. In fact I predicted this on this forum when the song first came out.  :P

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/04/17 at 2:33 am

I actually think Ed Sheeran totally kills it! 8) I wonder when he's gonna be feat'd on Pitbull's new collab.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 04/04/17 at 2:23 pm


Shape of You is the most overplayed song I have heard in years. It's good though, it will most likely be the number one song of 2017. In fact I predicted this on this forum when the song first came out.  :P


Closer was more overplayed in my area than this 8-P, I agree on Shape of You probably being the number one song of 2017 though, it's been number one for ten weeks here in US.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 04/07/17 at 12:25 am


Shape of You is the most overplayed song I have heard in years. It's good though, it will most likely be the number one song of 2017. In fact I predicted this on this forum when the song first came out.  :P


Yeah.  On my local station, it's been on the Top 7 nightly countdown since January.  It is way, way overplayed.  Ed Sheeran tends to get overplayed though for whatever reason.  He's kind of like the Jason Mraz of this decade.  This songs are actually pretty decent but by the time radio stations get done with them, you never want to hear them again.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 04/07/17 at 12:35 am


This song may just be a game changer. If this goes number 1 for many weeks, trap and the other current trends in music will officially die off this year.


This song is interesting.  I wonder if this represents the direction hip-hop is going next.  To me, this sounds like the direction hip-hop could have gone in the mid '00s if crunk wouldn't have taken over.  It's sounds like a more progressive version of the style that was popular around 2003. 

Regardless, it's about time for a shakeup.  Trap has dominated since late 2012.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 04/07/17 at 12:58 am


This song is interesting.  I wonder if this represents the direction hip-hop is going next.  To me, this sounds like the direction hip-hop could have gone in the mid '00s if crunk wouldn't have taken over.  It's sounds like a more progressive version of the style that was popular around 2003. 

Regardless, it's about time for a shakeup.  Trap has dominated since late 2012.


I feel Kendrick Lamar has a lot more superior tracks than this, but I see what this single is getting at. Kendrick has spent his career as the most critically acclaimed rapper of the decade but he's been relegated outside of the upper echelons of the mainstream. His goal before was to get to the top while remaining uncompromising and humble. It was a matter of time before he got tired and came out with his braggart track proclaiming himself hip-hop king.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 04/08/17 at 11:34 pm

Another mainstream non-trap song  :o

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 04/08/17 at 11:53 pm


Another mainstream non-trap song  :o

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I'm not a trap expert but I'm not sure if this song constitutes as trap. It might be why I really like it.  ;D This song is definitely trap:
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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 80sfan on 04/09/17 at 11:45 pm

Music isn't that bad this year!  8)

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 04/09/17 at 11:54 pm

I heard this song for the first time only thirty minutes ago. It was released only three days ago by...One Direction lead singer, Harry Styles!  :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0GKGpObgPY

I can't believe i'm saying this, but this song isn't actually too bad! I wouldn't go out of my way to listen to it, but it's definitely better than the trap and EDM crap which is still on the Top-40 charts. Apparently it is his first solo single outside of One Direction. Expect this new single to climb up the charts in the next few weeks.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 04/10/17 at 12:00 am


I heard this song for the first time only thirty minutes ago. It was released only three days ago by...One Direction lead singer, Harry Styles!  :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0GKGpObgPY

I can't believe i'm saying this, but this song isn't actually too bad! I wouldn't go out of my way to listen to it, but it's definitely better than the trap and EDM crap which is still on the Top-40 charts. Apparently it is his first solo single outside of One Direction. Expect this new single to climb up the charts in the next few weeks.

Yeah I too just heard that song today. Not bad.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 04/10/17 at 1:46 am

Watching the rise of rappers like Kendrick Lamar and Joey Badass is making me cautiously optimistic about the future of rap.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 04/10/17 at 1:51 am


Yeah I too just heard that song today. Not bad.


If "Sign of the Times" performs well on the charts and reaches the Top-10, there is a very real possibility that pop rock (or soft rock) may make a return to the charts. Who would have thought that a One Direction member may very well spur a return of rock to the charts in some form! :P

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 04/11/17 at 4:26 pm


If "Sign of the Times" performs well on the charts and reaches the Top-10, there is a very real possibility that pop rock (or soft rock) may make a return to the charts. Who would have thought that a One Direction member may very well spur a return of rock to the charts in some form! :P


It isn't unusual for teen pop artists to go their own direction after they peak, having significant contributions to another genre.  Justin Timberlake for instance had quite an impact on R&B after he split from *NSync.  Britney Spears rode the electropop wave in the late '00s.  Beyonce became a staple of '00s music and has remained relevant in the '10s after leaving Destiny's Child.  Nick Jonas has been quite popular in the '10s as a solo artist.  Justin Bieber even has quite a different sound now than he did in 2009.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 04/11/17 at 8:17 pm

Kendrick Lamar's single just debuted at number 2...the first rapper to do so since Eminem and something Drake has never done.  8)

LET THE DRAKE VS KENDRICK LAMAR WAR BEGIN!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HeyJealousy on 04/11/17 at 10:15 pm


I heard this song for the first time only thirty minutes ago. It was released only three days ago by...One Direction lead singer, Harry Styles!  :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0GKGpObgPY

I can't believe i'm saying this, but this song isn't actually too bad! I wouldn't go out of my way to listen to it, but it's definitely better than the trap and EDM crap which is still on the Top-40 charts. Apparently it is his first solo single outside of One Direction. Expect this new single to climb up the charts in the next few weeks.


Damn. For a man previously associated with a crappy boy band, this is an impressive solo debut. Perhaps this will mark a change in general direction of pop music, from EDM-inspired trap crap to more traditional soft rock and perhaps the next few months will churn out even better surprise hits. We'll see.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 04/11/17 at 10:28 pm


Damn. For a man previously associated with a crappy boy band, this is an impressive solo debut. Perhaps this will mark a change in general direction of pop music, from EDM-inspired trap crap to more traditional soft rock and perhaps the next few months will churn out even better surprise hits. We'll see.


After listening to Lady Gaga's Joanne, I wondered if it could inspire a swing back in the adult contemporary. The album didn't explode but maybe it planted seeds.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/11/17 at 10:31 pm

I would rate "Sign of the Times" by Harry Styles as a 5/10.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 04/11/17 at 10:50 pm


I would rate "Sign of the Times" by Harry Styles as a 5/10.


Yeah it's not the best thing I heard but its decent.  It's something that won't drive me insane if I have to listen to it like most One Direction songs did.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 04/11/17 at 10:53 pm


I would rate "Sign of the Times" by Harry Styles as a 5/10.


Agree. I'm not feeling it too much either. The first half is too slow and repetitive. Actually, the whole song is too slow. Listen to it at speed 1.25. It goes from 4.9 to 6.8.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/11/17 at 10:53 pm


Yeah it's not the best thing I heard but its decent.  It's something that won't drive me insane if I have to listen to it like most One Direction songs did.

I agree with the statement in bold.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/11/17 at 10:55 pm


Agree. I'm not feeling it too much either. The first half is too slow and repetitive. Actually, the whole song is too slow. Listen to it at 1.25. It goes from 4.9 to 6.8.

Yeah, I'm not really feeling it either. It's OK but definitely too slow.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 04/11/17 at 11:57 pm

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7735550/ed-sheeran-tlc-no-scrubs-writers-shape-of-you-credits

C'mon, Ed!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/12/17 at 12:00 am


http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7735550/ed-sheeran-tlc-no-scrubs-writers-shape-of-you-credits

C'mon, Ed!

Welp, I didn't expect that from him :o.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 04/12/17 at 12:05 am


Welp, I didn't expect that from him :o.


http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7468467/ed-sheeran-lawsuit-lets-get-it-on-marvin-gaye

I'm starting to wonder about that guy.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/12/17 at 12:07 am


http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7468467/ed-sheeran-lawsuit-lets-get-it-on-marvin-gaye

I'm starting to wonder about that guy.

Oh yeah, I remember that. Ed needs to get his act together.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 04/12/17 at 12:09 am


Oh yeah, I remember that. Ed needs to get his act together.


https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/watch-ed-sheeran-settles-lawsuit-over-hit-song-photograph-but-similar-x-factor-winners

I've stopped wondering.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/12/17 at 12:12 am


https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/watch-ed-sheeran-settles-lawsuit-over-hit-song-photograph-but-similar-x-factor-winners

I've stopped wondering.

What in the world? :o. I'm really disappointed in Ed Sheeran.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 04/12/17 at 3:01 am

Harry Styles is a rocker, Donald Trump is president.... I think we're living in some alternate universe!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 04/12/17 at 5:49 am


Agree. I'm not feeling it too much either. The first half is too slow and repetitive. Actually, the whole song is too slow. Listen to it at speed 1.25. It goes from 4.9 to 6.8.


It may be slow and repetitive, but at least it isn't EDM and it features a guitar!  :o

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 04/12/17 at 2:42 pm


It may be slow and repetitive, but at least it isn't EDM and it features a guitar!  :o


Eh. I guess it's slight refreshing in a way but it's not enough imo. I wish he sped it up a bit so I could truly enjoy it as opposed to being slightly relieved it's something other than trap and EDM that isn't even really dance music.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 04/12/17 at 2:54 pm


Kendrick Lamar's single just debuted at number 2...the first rapper to do so since Eminem and something Drake has never done.  8)

LET THE DRAKE VS KENDRICK LAMAR WAR BEGIN!


THE BATTLE IS OVER

Competition is widening, more like Death Valley than Silicon Valley.

Drake: 100 million sales

Kendrick Lamar: 5 million sales
Future: 5 million sales

The battle for second place remains undecided, but it's moot!

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 04/12/17 at 3:01 pm


THE BATTLE IS OVER

Competition is widening, more like Death Valley than Silicon Valley.

Drake: 100 million sales

Kendrick Lamar: 5 million sales
Future: 5 million sales

The battle for second place remains undecided, but it's moot!

http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1296/12967602/2407970-2290299078-13543.jpg


But the war still rages and DAMN is upon us.

Bitch, be humble.  8)

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 04/12/17 at 3:05 pm


Eh. I guess it's slight refreshing in a way but it's not enough imo. I wish he sped it up a bit so I could truly enjoy it as opposed to being slightly relieved it's something other than trap and EDM that isn't even really dance music.

I like it. It's a really good song. Kinda reminds me of David Bowie. Only thing is I don't think that's the direction music in general will go to, even if it hits number 1, but you never know.  I would love for soft rock to make a comeback or even soft rock with an EDM twist, like the Coldplay and Chainsmokers new song.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/12/17 at 3:07 pm


I like it. It's a really good song. Kinda reminds me of David Bowie. Only thing is I don't think that's the direction music in general will go to, even if it hits number 1, but you never know.

Well, I hope that's true because if music heads that way then I'll never listen to the mainstream charts for a very long time ;D.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/12/17 at 3:29 pm


THE BATTLE IS OVER

Competition is widening, more like Death Valley than Silicon Valley.

Drake: 100 million sales

Kendrick Lamar: 5 million sales
Future: 5 million sales

The battle for second place remains undecided, but it's moot!

http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1296/12967602/2407970-2290299078-13543.jpg


Bro, that's like a Canadian bias. Are you sure that ain't fake news?  8)

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 04/13/17 at 10:11 pm

I've been following Louis Cole for a while now. He's pretty talented. His vocals are not exactly on the level of people like Zayn, Timberlake, Mars, but there's such an earnestness to it that I really like. Plus, he plays instruments! I know a lot of you will appreciate that! He's been going viral lately due to a little song he put on facebook. He's releasing unreleased material in light of his yet to be released new album.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/17/17 at 2:45 am

TLC is back y'all!!!!! Check your calendar....it might be 1995:
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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 04/17/17 at 3:06 am

Snoop Dog ruins the song.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/17/17 at 3:08 am


Snoop Dog ruins the song.

I think he was alright.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 04/17/17 at 7:19 pm

More psychedelic rock in 2017.

Temples released their album Volcano last March. Reminiscent of Tame Impala pre-Currents.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 04/17/17 at 9:17 pm


TLC is back y'all!!!!! Check your calendar....it might be 1995:
reRfOzIVo0o


Hmm....sounds more 2007ish to me than '90s.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 04/17/17 at 9:55 pm


TLC is back y'all!!!!! Check your calendar....it might be 1995:
reRfOzIVo0o

Great song, and it's right, TLC goes Waayy Back.  8)

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/17/17 at 11:22 pm


Hmm....sounds more 2007ish to me than '90s.

Nuh uh, g funk wasn't something popular in 2007. It sounds like a g funk West coast hip hop song from 1993-1996 that was slightly modernised.


Great song, and it's right, TLC goes Waayy Back.  8)

Yes 👍, exactly 8).

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 04/18/17 at 12:27 am


Nuh uh, g funk wasn't something popular in 2007. It sounds like a g funk West coast hip hop song from 1993-1996 that was slightly modernised.


It kind of reminds me of this song from 2007, also featuring Snoop Dogg.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/18/17 at 1:38 am


It kind of reminds me of this song from 2007, also featuring Snoop Dogg.

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That song only very slightly sounds like "Way Back". Both songs are still different in sound.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 04/18/17 at 10:12 am

I was analyzing the Billboard, UK Top-40 and ARIA Top-50 charts about an hour ago, to see if there were any hints or signs of a possible change in the Top-40 music. Whilst I didn't come across any songs which suggest a change on the Billboard or UK charts, I did happen to stumble across these two songs on the ARIA charts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKlgCk3IGBg

This song is currently at #25 on the ARIA Top-40 chart and it is currently the #1 song on the Australian singles chart. "Waves" is the debut single for the artist. It was released in October 2016, however it only started to appear on the ARIA charts three or four weeks ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbVceVtYoX4

"Low Blows" is a single from the artist's upcoming debut album. The single was only released on the 31st March. It has yet to appear within the ARIA Top-50, however it is currently at #16 on the Australian singles chart and considering how long it took "Waves" to achieve success, it's quite possible that "Low Blows" will climb up the charts in the coming weeks and/or months. 

Obviously both songs are not in the traditional mold of rock, however it's interesting to note that there are noticeable elements of rock found in both songs. It's possible that pop rock or ballad rock may make a return to the charts in some form in the short-medium term.  Either way, it's interesting that the popularity and releases of these two songs have coincided with the release of Harry Styles', "Sign of the Times", which is currently at #1 on the Billboard, UK Top-40 and the ARIA Top-50 charts. Of course, a return of rock in some form may never eventuate this year and the two songs I shared above may not indicate a possible change, however I thought that they were worth sharing anyway.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HeyJealousy on 04/18/17 at 11:30 am


I was analyzing the Billboard, UK Top-40 and ARIA Top-50 charts about an hour ago, to see if there were any hints or signs of a possible change in the Top-40 music. Whilst I didn't come across any songs which suggest a change on the Billboard or UK charts, I did happen to stumble across these two songs on the ARIA charts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKlgCk3IGBg

This song is currently at #25 on the ARIA Top-40 chart and it is currently the #1 song on the Australian singles chart. "Waves" is the debut single for the artist. It was released in October 2016, however it only started to appear on the ARIA charts three or four weeks ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbVceVtYoX4

"Low Blows" is a single from the artist's upcoming debut album. The single was only released on the 31st March. It has yet to appear within the ARIA Top-50, however it is currently at #16 on the Australian singles chart and considering how long it took "Waves" to achieve success, it's quite possible that "Low Blows" will climb up the charts in the coming weeks and/or months. 

Obviously both songs are not in the traditional mold of rock, however it's interesting to note that there are noticeable elements of rock found in both songs. It's possible that pop rock or ballad rock may make a return to the charts in some form in the short-medium term.  Either way, it's interesting that the popularity and releases of these two songs have coincided with the release of Harry Styles', "Sign of the Times", which is currently at #1 on the Billboard, UK Top-40 and the ARIA Top-50 charts. Of course, a return of rock in some form may never eventuate this year and the two songs I shared above may not indicate a possible change, however I thought that they were worth sharing anyway.


I'm not looking for Bad Company style, generic, bland, radio rock to return to the mainstream.
Atmospheric soft pop-rock, in the vein of Prince's "Little Red Corvette" (just one of many examples), would be just fine in my book.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 04/18/17 at 1:42 pm


I was analyzing the Billboard, UK Top-40 and ARIA Top-50 charts about an hour ago, to see if there were any hints or signs of a possible change in the Top-40 music. Whilst I didn't come across any songs which suggest a change on the Billboard or UK charts, I did happen to stumble across these two songs on the ARIA charts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKlgCk3IGBg

This song is currently at #25 on the ARIA Top-40 chart and it is currently the #1 song on the Australian singles chart. "Waves" is the debut single for the artist. It was released in October 2016, however it only started to appear on the ARIA charts three or four weeks ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbVceVtYoX4

"Low Blows" is a single from the artist's upcoming debut album. The single was only released on the 31st March. It has yet to appear within the ARIA Top-50, however it is currently at #16 on the Australian singles chart and considering how long it took "Waves" to achieve success, it's quite possible that "Low Blows" will climb up the charts in the coming weeks and/or months. 

Obviously both songs are not in the traditional mold of rock, however it's interesting to note that there are noticeable elements of rock found in both songs. It's possible that pop rock or ballad rock may make a return to the charts in some form in the short-medium term.  Either way, it's interesting that the popularity and releases of these two songs have coincided with the release of Harry Styles', "Sign of the Times", which is currently at #1 on the Billboard, UK Top-40 and the ARIA Top-50 charts. Of course, a return of rock in some form may never eventuate this year and the two songs I shared above may not indicate a possible change, however I thought that they were worth sharing anyway.


I can see these songs entering into the US Top 100. Unfortunately, these songs are more of the same to me.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 04/18/17 at 2:19 pm


Bro, that's like a Canadian bias. Are you sure that ain't fake news?  8)


You know what they say, "reality has a Canadian bias".  :o

I hope we get more songs like Passionfruit. Humble is great too, but PASSIONFRUIT...  :-X

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/18/17 at 2:23 pm


You know what they say, "reality has a Canadian bias".  :o

I hope we get more songs like Passionfruit. Humble is great too, but PASSIONFRUIT...  :-X

Reality has a liberal bias.....you stupid Canuck >:(.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Arrowstone on 04/18/17 at 2:29 pm

Nice job, Harry Styles! Also nice suit.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 04/18/17 at 2:49 pm


You know what they say, "reality has a Canadian bias".  :o

I hope we get more songs like Passionfruit. Humble is great too, but PASSIONFRUIT...  :-X


It's time for a hip-hop king who cares about his subjects. Not one who sits in his ivory tower and moans over his riches and mistresses. Drake has had his day. The end is neigh! Kendrick Lamar is the new king!

Long Live Kendrick Lamar!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 04/18/17 at 8:49 pm

I am really liking this song.

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It's EDM, but it has a catchy hook/beat and is quite different from much of what has been on the charts lately.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 04/18/17 at 10:20 pm


I am really liking this song.

It's EDM, but it has a catchy hook/beat and is quite different from much of what has been on the charts lately.


I think SharksFan posted this early in the thread. I really relate to the lyrics, but Sean Paul's barking in the chorus kind of ruins it.  :-X This should get the Sia treatment where they remove Sean Paul, it would be a great song.


It's time for a hip-hop king who cares about his subjects. Not one who sits in his ivory tower and moans over his riches and mistresses. Drake has had his day. The end is neigh! Kendrick Lamar is the new king!

Long Live Kendrick Lamar!



So what you're saying is Lamar is for the plebs. While Drake is classy!  8)

But seriously, Kendrick Lamar has completely taken over the Top 50 streaming on Spotify.  :o

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/19/17 at 7:04 pm

A few days ago TLC came back with "Way Back" ft. Snoop Dogg. Now....Paramore is BACK!. Today, Paramore released the song "Hard Times".
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Personally, I would give the song a 6 out of 10. I appreciate that they went for a 1980s new wave sound but the song is still pretty average to me. The video is slightly trippy but cool at the same time. What do you guys think?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/22/17 at 12:43 pm

Just after his hit song "Bad Things" with Camila Cabello...rapper Machine Gun Kelly comes out with another collab with a female singer, this time Hailee Steinfeld. Here is "At My Best"....
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The song actually sounds like it's from 2008-2011, it also gives off an Eminem (don't hurt me :-7.5 out of 10.

What do you guys think? (if anyone responds :))

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 04/24/17 at 11:01 pm

"Despacito" has hit the Billboard Top 10. Fun Fact: Despacito is the first Spanish song to hit the Top 10 in 21 years since the Macarena.  :o

In other news, Shape Of You has finally left the number 1 position and it has been replaced by Humble. Sign of the Times has flopped, as I predicted it would, it is all the way down to 22. Sorry guys, soft rock is not making a comeback.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/24/17 at 11:28 pm


"Despacito" has hit the Billboard Top 10. Fun Fact: Despacito is the first Spanish song to hit the Top 10 in 21 years since the Macarena.  :o

In other news, Shape Of You has finally left the number 1 position and it has been replaced by Humble. Sign of the Times has flopped, as I predicted it would, it is all the way down to 22. Sorry guys, soft rock is not making a comeback.

I'm glad because "Sign of the Times" is a very average song.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 04/25/17 at 1:16 am


Sign of the Times has flopped, as I predicted it would, it is all the way down to 22. Sorry guys, soft rock is not making a comeback.


It's still at #5 on our charts. To be fair, it wouldn't surprise me if "Sign of the Times" rises up the charts again in a few weeks, once Harry Styles' album is released on the 12th May.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 04/25/17 at 1:26 am


It's still at #5 on our charts. To be fair, it wouldn't surprise me if "Sign of the Times" rises up the charts again in a few weeks, once Harry Styles' album is released on the 12th May.


I agree, it definitely hasn't flopped yet. A lot of high charting debuts drop a lot after their first week, and most usually gain back some spots.

I'm not a huge fan of the it, personally, but it's a nice song, I guess.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 04/28/17 at 5:06 am

Things are starting to get a bit interesting. A blues rock track has entered the Top-50 on the ARIA charts; "Way Down We Go" by Icelandic group, Kaleo. This one is a bit of a surprise actually. It was released in June last year, but it has only just started to gain a lot of ground on the Top-100 charts. Apparently it peaked at #54 on the Billboard Hot 100 at some point. I think the fact that it appeared in Logan has resulted in the song gaining some momentum. It was also featured on FIFA 16. You'd think that FIFA 16 would have propelled the song onto the charts, but it appears to have had no effect on the song whatsoever. FIFA is one of the most popular video game series in the world as well, so millions of people would have already been exposed to it. Something to think about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-7IHOXkiV8

This was only released a week ago, however it has already entered the ARIA Top-50. Tash Sultana is only a relatively new artist; her debut EP was only released in September. The song itself isn't a rock song in the traditional sense, but it does contain elements of rock music in it. Also, check out the long guitar solo at the end of the song!  :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQN1piSqAmk

With the worldwide success of Harry Styles' "Sign of the Times", the sudden emergence of "Way Down We Go", and one or two new rock-influenced releases on a local level, I feel as though rock is very gradually starting to make a return to the mainstream in some form. Of course, my prediction may turn out to be completely wrong, but they're promising signs nonetheless.

In regards to "Sign of the Times", I can confirm that the song is well and truly liked by teens as well, despite the fact that the song is completely different to One Direction's output. I had my cross-country carnival at school yesterday and when "Sign of the Times" was played on the loud speakers, I overheard a group of 13-14 year old girls say that they "love this song" when the song started playing. That's a good sign. :)


Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/28/17 at 6:41 am


In regards to "Sign of the Times", I can confirm that the song is well and truly liked by teens as well, despite the fact that the song is completely different to One Direction's output. I had my cross-country carnival at school yesterday and when "Sign of the Times" was played on the loud speakers, I overheard a group of 13-14 year old girls say that they "love this song" when the song started playing. That's a good sign. :)

That's not a good thing because it's pretty average song.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 04/28/17 at 6:52 am


That's not a good thing because it's pretty average song.


That's your opinion. I personally don't think it's a bad song.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/28/17 at 7:37 am


That's your opinion. I personally don't think it's a bad song.

I never said it was bad song....just average. Also, of course lots of teen girls will like a song from an artist formely in a popular boy band....what's new?

"Sign of the Times" is no different from most of the other soft rock songs in the past 3-5 years. Boring.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 05/02/17 at 11:19 pm

This year will be half finished in a month and I can say that other than a few songs, music in 2017 has been equally horrible as 2016.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: mxcrashxm on 05/02/17 at 11:23 pm


This year will be half finished in a month and I can say that other than a few songs, music in 2017 has been equally horrible as 2016.
Do you mean two?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 05/02/17 at 11:25 pm


Do you mean two?

Yeah two whatever lol

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 05/02/17 at 11:27 pm


This year will be half finished in a month and I can say that other than a few songs, music in 2017 has been equally horrible as 2016.


Yeah...I think it's time for you guys to look into the indie sphere. The mainstream might never quench you again.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 05/02/17 at 11:29 pm


Yeah...I think it's time for you guys to look into the indie sphere. The mainstream might never quench you again.

Yeah I'll stick to listening to my underground music.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: mxcrashxm on 05/02/17 at 11:36 pm


Yeah two whatever lol
;D ;D ;D ;D

I know how you feel though. I actually wish the music change already. There so much other there that's not given a chance.


Yeah...I think it's time for you guys to look into the indie sphere. The mainstream might never quench you again.
I wouldn't necessarily give up yet. Besides, a few of us are making a prediction that adult contemporary music could make a comeback.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 05/03/17 at 2:33 am


I wouldn't necessarily give up yet. Besides, a few of us are making a prediction that adult contemporary music could make a comeback.


I'm hoping that the songs I shared above are signs of a potential comeback for rock music. Obviously these changes have only occurred on an Australian level, but when you take into account that the Top-40 charts are 95% the same in all English-speaking countries, you can't rule out that some changes may also occur on the Billboard Hot 100 and UK charts at a later stage. I'm not suggesting that major changes are going to occur at some point this year, but it wouldn't surprise me if a few "hints" may begin to emerge at some point in 2017.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: nintieskid999 on 05/03/17 at 2:39 am


Yeah...I think it's time for you guys to look into the indie sphere. The mainstream might never quench you again.


Even underground doesn't satisfy me
Nothing now compares to a song like this

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 05/03/17 at 2:41 am


Even underground doesn't satisfy me
Nothing now compares to a song like this


What about a song like this? ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kewuzKHZGKo

Good ol' Grunge. :)

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 05/03/17 at 9:23 am


Even underground doesn't satisfy me
Nothing now compares to a song like this

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Not my cup of tea but if I were you, I would do my best find new bands that sound like that instead of waiting for the mainstream to adopt it...

because you're gonna be wasting your life waiting.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: nintieskid999 on 05/03/17 at 10:41 am


Not my cup of tea but if I were you, I would do my best find new bands that sound like that instead of waiting for the mainstream to adopt it...

because you're gonna be wasting your life waiting.


It doesn't have to be exactly the same style but I'm looking for something to recapture the magic and take my breath away.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/03/17 at 11:11 am


Not my cup of tea but if I were you, I would do my best find new bands that sound like that instead of waiting for the mainstream to adopt it...

because you're gonna be wasting your life waiting.

Yeah, that song isn't my cup of tea either.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: nintieskid999 on 05/03/17 at 11:21 am


Yeah, that song isn't my cup of tea either.


Better than anything on the radio now

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/03/17 at 11:23 am


Better than anything on the radio now

"Better" is based on personal opinion.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 05/03/17 at 11:40 am


Even underground doesn't satisfy me
Nothing now compares to a song like this


I love me some Gin Blossoms!

What do you think of these songs? I think they're somewhat in the same vein.

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Edit: wait I linked to the wrong song before I meant to link this one
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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 05/03/17 at 3:12 pm

Radiohead just released Lift.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 05/05/17 at 8:33 am

Psychedelic rock band Pond just released their new album, The Weather. Check it out on Spotify.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 05/05/17 at 2:54 pm

o m g
w t  f

One of the One Direction kids actually released something I find slightly more than decent:

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 05/05/17 at 8:58 pm

Just when you thought Linkin Park couldn't get any worse...  8-P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phVQZrb2AdA


Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/05/17 at 9:07 pm


Just when you thought Linkin Park couldn't get any worse...  8-P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phVQZrb2AdA


I've always hated Nu Metal but this actually makes me miss Hybrid Theory and Meteora. :-\\

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/05/17 at 9:20 pm


Just when you thought Linkin Park couldn't get any worse...  8-P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phVQZrb2AdA

I actually don't find this song to be bad. It's very decent to me. Obviously, this song is not as good as Linkin Park from 2000-2006 but it's better than a lot of songs on the radio now.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 05/05/17 at 11:22 pm

New Mac Demarco album today. This Old Dog

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 05/05/17 at 11:23 pm


Just when you thought Linkin Park couldn't get any worse...  8-P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phVQZrb2AdA

Yuck. This totally sucks.  8-P Linkin Park has really fell off.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 05/05/17 at 11:34 pm


Yuck. This totally sucks.  8-P Linkin Park has really fell off.


Their time was the early '00s.  They just need to stick to their hits.  This song is really horrible.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/06/17 at 11:12 am

I must be the only one who does not find "Good Goodbye" by Linkin Park to be horrible. It's decent, there a ton of songs out today that is worse than "Good Goodbye".

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 05/06/17 at 11:29 am


I must be the only one who does not find "Good Goodbye" by Linkin Park to be horrible. It's decent, there a ton of songs out today that is worse than "Good Goodbye".


Standards have fallen through the floor!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/06/17 at 11:39 am


Standards have fallen through the floor!

Maybe but the song is not as bad as y'all are saying it is.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 05/06/17 at 11:40 am


I must be the only one who does not find "Good Goodbye" by Linkin Park to be horrible. It's decent, there a ton of songs out today that is worse than "Good Goodbye".

It's awful. Especially considering it's made by Linkin Park.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/06/17 at 11:42 am


It's awful. Especially considering it's made by Linkin Park.

It's not awful but whatever I'm not going to sit here and debate whether this song is bad or not.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 05/06/17 at 11:43 am


It's not awful

Yeah it is  8-P

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 05/06/17 at 11:17 pm


I must be the only one who does not find "Good Goodbye" by Linkin Park to be horrible. It's decent, there a ton of songs out today that is worse than "Good Goodbye".


I actually agree with you. I haven't been into Linkin Park after Meteora (I was definitely a nu-metal era teen), but this song isn't too different from the rest of their stuff.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/06/17 at 11:20 pm


I actually agree with you. I haven't been into Linkin Park after Meteora (I was definitely a nu-metal era teen), but this song isn't too different from the rest of their stuff.

Thanks for agreeing with me :).

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 05/06/17 at 11:55 pm


I actually agree with you. I haven't been into Linkin Park after Meteora (I was definitely a nu-metal era teen), but this song isn't too different from the rest of their stuff.

Whaa? It sounds like an entirely different pop group who took their name.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 05/07/17 at 4:43 am


Whaa? It sounds like an entirely different pop group who took their name.


Not really. It's the same band just updating their sounds for the times. Hip-hop/rap has always been essential to their sound and all they did here was fuse today's pop-hip/hop with their sound.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 05/07/17 at 1:06 pm


Not really. It's the same band just updating their sounds for the times. Hip-hop/rap has always been essential to their sound and all they did here was fuse today's pop-hip/hop with their sound.

It still sucks though.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HeyJealousy on 05/07/17 at 2:31 pm

Any new releases that might hit the charts anytime soon?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: nintieskid999 on 05/07/17 at 5:10 pm


It still sucks though.


Agreed. I hate the song.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 05/07/17 at 7:19 pm


It still sucks though.


Maybe. I don't really care either way. I guess I just don't care enough to hate it.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 05/08/17 at 4:21 am


Any new releases that might hit the charts anytime soon?


Apart from "Sign of the Times", it wouldn't surprise me if one or two songs from Harry Styles' upcoming debut solo album hit the Top-40 charts. His album will be released on the 12th.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 05/15/17 at 4:34 pm

The latest single by English rock band, Royal Blood. This was released a month a go. It's a shame that talented bands like them are not receiving the mainstream success that they deserve. They only formed in 2013.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSznpyG9CHY


Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 05/16/17 at 6:37 am

Harry Styles' "Sign of the Times" has become a massive hit down here. The Top-40 FM stations are absolutely flogging the song at the moment and there is even an advert currently airing on TV which is advertising the song and the debut album. It's almost as if people are just relieved to hear a non-EDM or trap song on the charts, which is quite sad if that is the case (as if reflects how mainstream music has declined). "Sign of the Times" is currently at #9 on our charts, but I expect it to rise into the Top 4 by the weekend. How popular has the song been in the US and UK? How are people reacting to it?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 05/16/17 at 8:46 am


Harry Styles' "Sign of the Times" has become a massive hit down here. The Top-40 FM stations are absolutely flogging the song at the moment and there is even an advert currently airing on TV which is advertising the song and the debut album. It's almost as if people are just relieved to hear a non-EDM or trap song on the charts, which is quite sad if that is the case (as if reflects how mainstream music has declined). "Sign of the Times" is currently at #9 on our charts, but I expect it to rise into the Top 4 by the weekend. How popular has the song been in the US and UK? How are people reacting to it?

In Canada it's pretty popular. I hear it playing on the radio a lot.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 05/16/17 at 12:37 pm


Harry Styles' "Sign of the Times" has become a massive hit down here. The Top-40 FM stations are absolutely flogging the song at the moment and there is even an advert currently airing on TV which is advertising the song and the debut album. It's almost as if people are just relieved to hear a non-EDM or trap song on the charts, which is quite sad if that is the case (as if reflects how mainstream music has declined). "Sign of the Times" is currently at #9 on our charts, but I expect it to rise into the Top 4 by the weekend. How popular has the song been in the US and UK? How are people reacting to it?


I haven't heard anyone mention the song in person but it is at 18 on the Billboard 100 after being 28 last week. I haven't given his album a deep listen and I might never because it didn't leave that great of an impression on me while flipping through it but I have to admit that most...if not all...of the songs on the album are better than Sigh of the Times. It's weird that he'd release the album's worst song but whatever. I hope he releases Woman, Carolina, and Sweet Creature. Those songs are a good balance of decent and pop.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: mqg96 on 05/19/17 at 3:24 pm

I really enjoy this hip hop song, I love the music and some of the lyrics are a good message.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 05/20/17 at 9:07 pm

Another awful Linkin Park song. Man these guys really fell off. It's embarrassing at this point haha.
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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 05/24/17 at 7:41 pm

Apparently this is a diss to Taylor Swift. It means "Swift Swift Bi**h". The song is not good, but at least it's upbeat club music.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 05/29/17 at 3:08 pm

I am really liking this electropop song.  It came out in December but I am just now hearing it.  It seems like a fusion of '90s euro-dance and early '10s electropop influences.

1-xGerv5FOk

#Infinity perhaps you know more songs like this you could recommend?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 05/30/17 at 12:40 am

Here are a couple new releases in music.


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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: #Infinity on 05/30/17 at 2:32 am

Somebody please find me my lovergirl to sing me a beautiful serenade, otherwise I have no interest in music.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 05/30/17 at 1:40 pm


Here are a couple new releases in music.


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I like the first one and the last one.  Not big on the Carly Rae Jepsen song.  To me, it sounds like very generic mid-10s EDM pop.  Not terrible, but nothing really grabs me about it.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 06/01/17 at 12:43 am

Here's another song that reached the top 30 this week.
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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 06/08/17 at 2:42 pm

This song came out 2 months ago, but they finally have a music video of it now.
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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 80sfan on 06/09/17 at 7:52 pm

In music news, Taylor Swift shades Katy Perry. Catty yet amusing!

http://nypost.com/2017/06/09/taylor-swift-disses-katy-perry-in-rudest-way-possible/

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 07/04/17 at 12:55 am

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I like the throwback feel on this one. It kind of has a 1970s vibe.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 07/04/17 at 11:50 am


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I like the throwback feel on this one. It kind of has a 1970s vibe.


Meh.  Disco revival is probably my least favorite genre of the '10s and it needs to die already.  I prefer listening to Ariana Grande over disco revival.  My musical tastes cover a very wide range but I never liked late 1970s disco.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 07/04/17 at 12:00 pm

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 07/05/17 at 8:10 am

http://www.digitalspy.com/music/news/a831706/new-singles-chart-rules-could-end-ed-sheeran-drake-top-40-dominance/

The UK are making changes to their singles chart, meaning that it will be easier for new artists to breakthrough into the Top 40. It's a great idea and I hope the Billboard and ARIA charts follow suit.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 07/05/17 at 5:41 pm


http://www.digitalspy.com/music/news/a831706/new-singles-chart-rules-could-end-ed-sheeran-drake-top-40-dominance/

The UK are making changes to their singles chart, meaning that it will be easier for new artists to breakthrough into the Top 40. It's a great idea and I hope the Billboard and ARIA charts follow suit.


Hopefully this happens.  It's hard to believe that "Shape of You" by Ed Sheeran is still in the Top 10 and we are now in July.  I don't think I can remember a song in my lifetime that was more overplayed than that song.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 07/05/17 at 7:09 pm


Hopefully this happens.  It's hard to believe that "Shape of You" by Ed Sheeran is still in the Top 10 and we are now in July.  I don't think I can remember a song in my lifetime that was more overplayed than that song.

That song will for sure be the number one song of 2017 at this point and I made this prediction on here back in January haha.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/05/17 at 7:16 pm

2017 has only been slightly better for popular music than 2016, IMO.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 07/08/17 at 7:51 am

The changes on the UK chart came into effect on the 7th. As a result, this is what the singles chart currently looks like;

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart/


Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 07/09/17 at 2:46 pm


2017 has only been slightly better for popular music than 2016, IMO.


I think 2017 has been an excellent year so far for Top 40. We'll see how the second half turns out but I am thinking it may be a better year than 2015 and the best year since 2012.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 07/09/17 at 6:48 pm


I think 2017 has been an excellent year so far for Top 40. We'll see how the second half turns out but I am thinking it may be a better year than 2015 and the best year since 2012.

No the music sucks a lot this year and 2015 was better. And 2016 was very bad as well, maybe this year is slightly better than 2016, but not even. 2016 had some okay songs that saved it a bit. I also hated 2012's music and felt it was the worst. Either way, 90% of the songs on the top 40 are garbage these days. This is all my opinion of course.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 07/09/17 at 11:58 pm


No the music sucks a lot this year and 2015 was better. And 2016 was very bad as well, maybe this year is slightly better than 2016, but not even. 2016 had some okay songs that saved it a bit. I also hated 2012's music and felt it was the worst. Either way, 90% of the songs on the top 40 are garbage these days. This is all my opinion of course.


So far, here's my ranking of the '10s years by whether or not I liked the music.  2016 was meh.  2013-14 were the worst.  So far, I think 2017 is right around the middle of the pack.  When I say I am liking music this year, keep in mind that is speaking relative to the past several years.

2011
2010
2012
2015
2017
2016
2014
2013

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 07/10/17 at 1:20 am


So far, here's my ranking of the '10s years by whether or not I liked the music.  2016 was meh.  2013-14 were the worst.  So far, I think 2017 is right around the middle of the pack.  When I say I am liking music this year, keep in mind that is speaking relative to the past several years.

2011
2010
2012
2015
2017
2016
2014
2013

Pretty much the omplete opposite for me  ;D

2013
2015
2014
2017
2016
2010
2011
2012

It seems like for me, the mid 2010s are at the front, the late 2010s are in the middle of the pack, and the early 2010s are at the bottom, with the of course the exception of 2013 which is the best year for music. You can probably tell I hate dance pop haha.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 07/10/17 at 1:34 am


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I like the throwback feel on this one. It kind of has a 1970s vibe.


I like the song overall but there's something about Pharrell's vocals that drag the song down in my opinion.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 07/12/17 at 10:36 am

I listened to "Wild Thoughts" for the first time a few minutes ago. The thing that most intrigued me was the brief guitar solo at the end of the chorus. I'm not sure if anyone else has picked up on it, but one thing I have noticed this year is that there seems to be a few subtle "traces" of a potential return of rock. The guitar seems to be featuring more prominently in recent music videos.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Lizardmatum on 07/12/17 at 10:46 am


I listened to "Wild Thoughts" for the first time a few minutes ago. The thing that most intrigued me was the brief guitar solo at the end of the chorus. I'm not sure if anyone else has picked up on it, but one thing I have noticed this year is that there seems to be a few subtle "traces" of a potential return of rock. The guitar seems to be featuring more prominently in recent music videos.

I've noticed this as well actually! Music I think is just beginning to have a softer less electronic sound with a slight pop/rock influence. It could be the next new thing.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 07/12/17 at 9:39 pm


I like the song overall but there's something about Pharrell's vocals that drag the song down in my opinion.


I am just ready for the disco revival to be over.  It's probably by far my least favorite genre of the '10s.  Even Ariana Grande has a few songs I don't mind.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 07/12/17 at 10:25 pm


2017 has only been slightly better for popular music than 2016, IMO.


I agree. Crap Trap doesn't seem to be as dominant.

Ten years ago, I thought music was at a low point but things got a lot better in 2008. Also, a lot of albums I now feel are amazeballs were released under my nose in 2007.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 07/12/17 at 10:29 pm


I listened to "Wild Thoughts" for the first time a few minutes ago. The thing that most intrigued me was the brief guitar solo at the end of the chorus. I'm not sure if anyone else has picked up on it, but one thing I have noticed this year is that there seems to be a few subtle "traces" of a potential return of rock. The guitar seems to be featuring more prominently in recent music videos.


This song seems more like a throwback to me but it would be nice if you were right.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 07/12/17 at 10:50 pm

Rock is not coming back.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/12/17 at 11:09 pm


I agree. Crap Trap doesn't seem to be as dominant.

Ten years ago, I thought music was at a low point but things got a lot better in 2008. Also, a lot of albums I now feel are amazeballs were released under my nose in 2007.

I loved popular music from 2007 both back then and now. However, I only turned 8 in 2007 :P.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 07/12/17 at 11:32 pm


This song seems more like a throwback to me but it would be nice if you were right.


I agree, it probably is just a throwback. However, with that said, there does appear to be some signs of a potential return of rock in some form in the near future.

* The release/success of "Sign of the Times".
* Strong sales for Blink-182's most recent album.
* The greater presence of guitars in new Top-40 releases.
* Imagine Dragons' "Believe" reaching the Top-10 on the Billboard Hot 100.
* Royal Blood's new album debuting at #1 on the UK charts, #4 on the Australian chart and #25 on the Billboard chart.
* Pop punk thriving in the underground scene.
* Liam Gallagher making a successful comeback in the UK, with the release of his debut solo album.
* Kaleo's "Way Down We Go" reaching #30 on the Australian singles chart.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 07/12/17 at 11:53 pm


Rock is not coming back.


How can you say that with absolute certainty? No one can accurately predict the future.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 07/13/17 at 12:01 am


I am just ready for the disco revival to be over.  It's probably by far my least favorite genre of the '10s.  Even Ariana Grande has a few songs I don't mind.


I honestly don't think I've heard enough or a lot dancey disco music. Maybe in the indie world but not the mainstream world.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 07/25/17 at 7:12 pm

https://www.vibe.com/2017/07/hip-hop-popular-genre-nielsen-music/

Hip Hop combined with R&B just passed Rock as the most popular genre(s) in the United States. Nothing has ever passed Rock since it started tracking music consumption in the US in 1990.

I dont know why Hip Hop is combined with R&B since they're two different genres, however, they mentioned Hip Hop is gaining every year while R&B is slightly declining, I think this is a sign that our generation's Classic Rock is going to be Hip Hop just and this is like when Rock replaced Jazz as the dominant genre in the late 50's.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 07/25/17 at 8:46 pm

I read the article and it mentioned that hip hop has rose in popularity primarily due to streaming services. My question is, how come rock music has not been able to replicate the same level of success on streaming services? Especially considering the fact that up until now, it was the most consumed genre in the US. Is it simply due to the fact that a new artist/band hasn't come along and revolutionised the genre, or is it's overall popularity really starting to wane? I personally hope it's not the latter.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 07/25/17 at 10:07 pm


I read the article and it mentioned that hip hop has rose in popularity primarily due to streaming services. My question is, how come rock music has not been able to replicate the same level of success on streaming services? Especially considering the fact that up until now, it was the most consumed genre in the US. Is it simply due to the fact that a new artist/band hasn't come along and revolutionised the genre, or is it's overall popularity really starting to wane? I personally hope it's not the latter.


I think it's a combination of both. tbh, I think rock musicians really, really need to step up their live show game. It really sucks to go to rock shows and the instruments, vocals, mixing in general, be subpar or way below standards compared to the studio album. I understand having some grit and rust, but maan, whenever I listen to one of my favorite rock songs live and the singer and so out of tune, it always hurts my appreciation for the song and the band for a while. You just don't have that problem at most EDM and r&b shows.

on the other hand....rap shows tend to be even worse since a lot of them need hype men and don't even play instruments or dance as an excuse for crap vocals. Every now and then, you'll get someone like Mos Def:

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 07/25/17 at 11:51 pm

While I hate to admit it, it is possible that rock might be going the way of jazz. Jazz is still here, but it's either mostly played by "professionals" or it is integrated with rap or r&b.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 07/25/17 at 11:54 pm


While I hate to admit it, it's possible that rock might be going the way of jazz. Jazz is still here, but it's either mostly played by "professionals" or it's integrated with rap or r&b.


This is a possibility.  I would say if rock isn't back in some form by 2022, that will be more and more of a possibility.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: musicguy93 on 07/26/17 at 1:11 am


Rock is not coming back.


You can't predict that. The current state of things do not automatically dictate the future. Just because rock has declined in popularity in the 2010s, doesn't mean things can't bounce back.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: musicguy93 on 07/26/17 at 1:13 am


While I hate to admit it, it's possible that rock might be going the way of jazz. Jazz is still here, but it's either mostly played by "professionals" or it's integrated with rap or r&b.


I still say that rock is in a state of dormancy. It may have declined in the 2010s, but the future is completely unpredictable. It's not like the 2010s are a template for all future decades.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 07/26/17 at 1:27 am


I still say that rock is in a state of dormancy. It may have declined in the 2010s, but the future is completely unpredictable. It's not like the 2010s are a template for all future decades.


I tend to agree. Also, despite the fact that it no longer has a dominant presence on the Top 40 charts, there have been a number of rock singles which have been quite successful this decade. A few songs that come to mind are "Radioactive", "Lonely Boy", "Pumped Up Kicks" and more recently, "Sign of the Times". I personally believe that the lack of rock music is more to do with there being a backlash against the lousy, post-grunge which dominated the 2000s.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 07/26/17 at 2:06 am


I still say that rock is in a state of dormancy. It may have declined in the 2010s, but the future is completely unpredictable. It's not like the 2010s are a template for all future decades.


The future is unpredictable, but are you willing to concede that it is possible rock may never (or at least not for a long time) reach the kind of popularity it had from the 50s-2000s?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: musicguy93 on 07/27/17 at 1:41 pm


The future is unpredictable, but are you willing to concede that it is possible rock may never (or at least not for a long time) reach the kind of popularity it had from the 50s-2000s?


Well yeah, I certainly acknowledge that rock may never gain back it's popularity. However, it's not any more of a probability than rock making a full comeback in the future. The chances are literally 50/50 right now.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/27/17 at 2:08 pm

Rock music won't ever regain massive popularity in the US for many reasons:

1. Demographics...the US is becoming less and less White. The United States will become a majority non-White nation by the 2050 US Census.

Why do I bring this up? It's a proven fact that White people, in general, are the most receptive and appreciative of rock music than non-White people, in general. As the country becomes less White...that means that less people will care for it and it be primarily popular among a niche audience of loyal rock fans (who will be overwhelmingly White).

2. The rise of digitised music. The world is becoming more and more digitised and thus genres such as pop, rap, EDM, etc have and will remain popular. While rock can and has been digitised....many rock fans feel that it's not real rock music and that rock bands who do that are selling out.

3. Streaming services have caused rock to decline. You no longer have to listen to what is played on the radio or TV...you can listen to whatever you want and it's now proven that Hip Hop is the most popular genre to listen to/stream.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 07/27/17 at 2:15 pm


Rock music won't ever regain massive popularity in the US for many reasons:

1. Demographics...the US is becoming less and less White. The United States will become a majority non-White nation by the 2050 US Census.

Why do I bring this up? It's a proven fact that White people, in general, are the most receptive and appreciative of rock music than non-White people, in general. As the country becomes less White...that means that less people will care for it and it be primarily popular among a niche audience of loyal rock fans (who will be overwhelmingly White).


Rock music was invented by black people...

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 07/27/17 at 2:17 pm


Well yeah, I certainly acknowledge that rock may never gain back it's popularity. However, it's not any more of a probability than rock making a full comeback in the future. The chances are literally 50/50 right now.

It's going the way of jazz. It's a 20th century genre. Why would rock n' roll it come back if it's an old genre and people will invent new genres that will be popular. Music always progresses. It's evident people are losing interest in rock, I really don't see how and why it would come back to the mainstream.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 07/27/17 at 2:20 pm


Rock music was invented by black people...


And Japanese rock is the best!  :D

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/27/17 at 2:22 pm


Rock music was invented by black people...

So? I didn't say that White people created rock and roll. Anyways, how many Black rock bands do you know besides maybe one ? Can you name 10 or more famous Black people who are primarily rock musicians?

Also, Rock and roll is what was created by Black people. The subgenres of rock today weren't created by Black people...they were created by White people.


And Japanese rock is the best!  :D

Not to me.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 07/27/17 at 2:25 pm


Also, Rock and roll is what was created by Black people. The subgenres of rock today weren't created by Black people...they were created by White people.
Not to me.

Umm these sub genres you talk about came from rock. Rock music is just that, rock music. And how do you know they were created by white people? I could see electronic rock being created by Japanese people because electronic music stems from there.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/27/17 at 2:31 pm


Umm these sub genres you talk about came from rock. Rock music is just that, rock music. And how do you know they were created by white people? I could see electronic rock being created by Japanese people because electronic music stems from there.

OK now you're just trying to subvert facts because rock music is not popular, IN GENERAL, among non-White people.

Metal, Grunge, Surf rock, Alternative, Industrial, New Wave, Punk, etc were ALL CREATED BY WHITE PEOPLE. That's just a fact and I don't know what you're trying to do by denying such facts.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 07/27/17 at 3:24 pm


OK now you're just trying to subvert facts because rock music is not popular, IN GENERAL, among non-White people.

Metal, Grunge, Surf rock, Alternative, Industrial, New Wave, Punk, etc were ALL CREATED BY WHITE PEOPLE. That's just a fact and I don't know what you're trying to do by denying such facts.

We were talking about rock music, not those genres. And rock music was invented by black musicians.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/27/17 at 3:32 pm


We were talking about rock music, not those genres. And rock music was invented by black musicians.

Um..those genres I mentioned are ROCK MUSIC. Once again only rock and roll was created by Black people and...so what?

Rock and roll or rock music is not popular among Black people, IN GENERAL. I seriously don't know what point you're trying to make.

The overwhelming majority of rock fans are White and the overwhelmingly majority of rock band members are White.

Also, I wasn't just talking about Black people. Non-White people also includes people who aren't White but also aren't Black. You do know that right?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 07/27/17 at 4:02 pm


Um..those genres I mentioned are ROCK MUSIC. Once again only rock and roll was created by Black people and...so what?

Rock and Roll is rock... It's not a seperate genre. People call it rock because it is shorter to say. So yeah, rock music was first invented by a black man. Black people were the first to create the genre of rock.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/27/17 at 4:07 pm


Rock and Roll is rock... It's not a seperate genre. People call it rock because it is shorter to say. So yeah, rock music was first invented by a black man. This man was the first to create the genre of rock.

Oh my God ::). You know what...I'm done because you're just talking about something that no one disputed or was even talking about in the first place and I'm not up for this nonsense. I'm FINISHED.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 07/27/17 at 4:14 pm


Oh my God ::). You know what...I'm done because you're just talking about something that no one disputed or was even talking about in the first place and I'm not up for this nonsense. I'm FINISHED.

Rock is not for white people and in fact black people invented the genre. Even if your case was right, having more diversity has nothing to do with who listens to the music considering there are still millions of white people in America. Rock dying has nothing to do with race or the changing landscape of diversity in America.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/27/17 at 4:19 pm


Rock is not for white people and in fact black people invented the genre. Even if your case was right, having more diversity has nothing to do with who listens to the music considering there are still millions of white people in America. Rock dying has nothing to do with race or the changing landscape of diversity in America.

When did I say that rock music was for White people? You are putting words into my mouth because you want to be PC. Also, so what if rock was created by Black people? Besides none of the popular genres of rock today were created by Black people and the overwhelming majority of rock fans, musicians and consumers are White people. That is a fact...there is NO DISPUTING that. Stop trying to subvert facts. Rock music's decline in the US is aided by the declining White population AND the other 2 factors I mentioned earlier. Just stop it Slim95. You have no valid argument.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 07/27/17 at 4:33 pm


When did I say that rock music was for White people? You are putting words into my mouth because you want to be PC. Also, so what if rock was created by Black people? Besides none of the popular genres of rock today were created by Black people and the overwhelming majority of rock fans, musicians and consumers are White people. That is a fact...there is NO DISPUTING that. Stop trying to subvert facts. Rock music's decline in the US is aided by the declining White population AND the other 2 factors I mentioned earlier. Just stop it Slim95. You have no valid argument.


Is there proof of that? There is a noticeable lack of black people in rock, but I'm not sure if that extends to, say, Latinos or Asians.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/27/17 at 4:40 pm


Is there proof of that? There is a noticeable lack of black people in rock, but I'm not sure if that extends to, say, Latinos or Asians.

Yes, Asians and Latinos do have a higher liking of rock music more than Black people but it's still not too high and the fact remains that the OVERWHELMINGLY MAJORITY (notice, I didn't say all) of rock fans and musicians are White.

Also, proof? Come on guys...stop being naive ::). Just go to any rock concert and just look at out at the audience...it's a sea of Whiteness.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 07/27/17 at 4:41 pm


When did I say that rock music was for White people? You are putting words into my mouth because you want to be PC. Also, so what if rock was created by Black people? Besides none of the popular genres of rock today were created by Black people and the overwhelming majority of rock fans, musicians and consumers are White people. That is a fact...there is NO DISPUTING that. Stop trying to subvert facts. Rock music's decline in the US is aided by the declining White population AND the other 2 factors I mentioned earlier. Just stop it Slim95. You have no valid argument.

That is not a fact. I am stating facts which you think is "PC". There is absolutely no evidence that an overwhelming majority of rock fans are white people. And what popular genres of rock today? I thought we agreed rock wasn't popular today? Either way, these are part of rock music, which was created by black people.



Also, proof? Come on guys...stop being naive ::). Just go to any rock concert and just look at out at the audience...it's a sea of Whiteness.

This absolutely discredits anything you said as you cannot show evidence for your claim and using a stereotypical anecdote. What if white people just like that particular band? 90% of the people in the audience for the Hopsin concert I went to were white, even if rap is said to be for black people. That is not evidence at all...

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/27/17 at 4:45 pm


That is not a fact. I am stating facts which you think is "PC". There is absolutely no evidence that an overwhelming majority of rock fans are white people. And what popular genres of rock today? I thought we agreed rock wasn't popular today? Either way, these are part of rock music, which was created by black people.

Wow...no, I can't. I am so done with this nonsense. This guy has the gall to say that "There is absolutely no evidence that an overwhelming majority of rock fans are white people" and still saying that Black people created rock music as if I disputed that and as if that has any relevance to what I'm saying. This is just ridiculous and I'm done here.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Stillinthe90s on 07/27/17 at 5:28 pm


When did I say that rock music was for White people? You are putting words into my mouth because you want to be PC. Also, so what if rock was created by Black people? Besides none of the popular genres of rock today were created by Black people and the overwhelming majority of rock fans, musicians and consumers are White people. That is a fact...there is NO DISPUTING that. Stop trying to subvert facts. Rock music's decline in the US is aided by the declining White population AND the other 2 factors I mentioned earlier. Just stop it Slim95. You have no valid argument.


I can definitely see making a distinction between rock and rock and roll. Yes, "rock" is short for "rock and roll" in some sense, but in common usage the latter is usually used to refer to 1950s rock and roll like Chuck Berry. And yes, it's true that many pioneers of the genre were black and that white musicians generally adopted the genre later and this is when it became more popular, since white faces made this style of music more popular in the 1950s. So racism is a major part of the story of rock's origin, and this racial minefield has clouded studies of the origin of rock and roll, specifically to what extent it's a fusion of jazz and blues on the one hand and country music styles on the other.

However, after the 60s or thereabouts, "rock" is the main term to describe this style of music that broke out in the 50s, and after the 1960s the performers and audience were mainly white. Jimi Hendrix was the last big rock musician who was black and by the 70s it was mostly a white musical style. Basically, while it was called "rock and roll," it was more diverse, but by the time it was called just "rock," it was primarily white music. Black musicians and audiences had gone toward soul music like motown by this time.

As to whether or not demographic factors have played into the decline of rock music, specifically the shrinking portion of the white population out of the total population in the U.S., I'm not sure if there's a direct relationship. Whites are still the majority and the decline of rock music has occurred much faster than the rate of decline of the white percentage of the population. I would guess that this steep decline is more related to public perceptions of what's cool or hip as far as music, and these perceptions can change faster than demographics. Further, there could be a multicultural bias in the media's assessment of what's hip and what's outdated, such that black or Latino styles and artists are considered hip while white ones are considered old fashioned.

This will be controversial for me to say, but I did notice how quickly rock declined in the late 2000s in the early part of Obama's presidency. Of course I don't think Obama somehow made it happen - that's absurd. However, I do suspect the media took his election as a signal to push minority-dominated musical styles overwhelmingly.

One more point: the harder or edgier versions of rock music in recent decades have, I'd guess, been more associated with the white working class than with the middle class, whose taste probably gravitates toward poppier music. Which would mean the decline of the white working class in its economic situation and cultural influence could lead to a good deal of atrophy in the rock genre. Notice how the last creative explosion in rock music was early 90s grunge, 25 years ago, and it originated among "loser" types of white youth from dying towns like Aberdeen, WA, and how Seattle, which was undergoing massive gentrification in the 80s and 90s, while blue collar work declined, was the epicenter of this last breakthrough in rock.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 80sfan on 07/27/17 at 5:32 pm


Wow...no, I can't. I am so done with this nonsense. This guy has the gall to say that "There is absolutely no evidence that an overwhelming majority of rock fans are white people" and still saying that Black people created rock music as if I disputed that and as if that has any relevance to what I'm saying. This is just ridiculous and I'm done here.


Yes, I expect like at least 80% White people at a rock concert. And I expect more women at a Mary J. Blige concert. Things could change, but it's just the way it is.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 80sfan on 07/27/17 at 5:35 pm


That is not a fact. I am stating facts which you think is "PC". There is absolutely no evidence that an overwhelming majority of rock fans are white people. And what popular genres of rock today? I thought we agreed rock wasn't popular today? Either way, these are part of rock music, which was created by black people.

This absolutely discredits anything you said as you cannot show evidence for your claim and using a stereotypical anecdote. What if white people just like that particular band? 90% of the people in the audience for the Hopsin concert I went to were white, even if rap is said to be for black people. That is not evidence at all...


What if he's watched 40 rock concerts with 40 different bands? It counts as evidence, because it's a reality (if he has watched enough concerts/tours) and something that's somewhat quantifiable! Facts come from real life, where else does it come from? Even facts that are now on paper used to be from real life experiments and experiences.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 07/27/17 at 5:36 pm


What if he's watched 40 rock concerts with 40 different bands? It counts as evidence, because it's a reality and something somewhat quantifiable!

Still anecdotal.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/27/17 at 5:44 pm


I can definitely see making a distinction between rock and rock and roll. Yes, "rock" is short for "rock and roll" in some sense, but in common usage the latter is usually used to refer to 1950s rock and roll like Chuck Berry. And yes, it's true that many pioneers of the genre were black and that white musicians generally adopted the genre later and this is when it became more popular, since white faces made this style of music more popular in the 1950s. So racism is a major part of the story of rock's origin, and this racial minefield has clouded studies of the origin of rock and roll, specifically to what extent it's a fusion of jazz and blues on the one hand and country music styles on the other.

However, after the 60s or thereabouts, "rock" is the main term to describe this style of music that broke out in the 50s, and after the 1960s the performers and audience were mainly white. Jimi Hendrix was the last big rock musician who was black and by the 70s it was mostly a white musical style. Basically, while it was called "rock and roll," it was more diverse, but by the time it was called just "rock," it was primarily white music. Black musicians and audiences had gone toward soul music like motown by this time.

As to whether or not demographic factors have played into the decline of rock music, specifically the shrinking portion of the white population out of the total population in the U.S., I'm not sure if there's a direct relationship. Whites are still the majority and the decline of rock music has occurred much faster than the rate of decline of the white percentage of the population. I would guess that this steep decline is more related to public perceptions of what's cool or hip as far as music, and these perceptions can change faster than demographics. Further, there could be a multicultural bias in the media's assessment of what's hip and what's outdated, such that black or Latino styles and artists are considered hip while white ones are considered old fashioned.

This will be controversial for me to say, but I did notice how quickly rock declined in the late 2010s in the early part of Obama's presidency. Of course I don't think Obama somehow made it happen - that's absurd. However, I do suspect the media took is election as a signal to push minority-dominated musical styles overwhelmingly.

One more point: the harder or edgier versions of rock music in recent decades have, I'd guess, been more associated with the white working class than with the middle class, whose taste probably gravitates toward poppier music. Which would mean the decline of the white working class in its economic situation and cultural influence could lead to a good deal of atrophy in the rock genre. Notice how the last creative explosion in rock music was early 90s grunge, 25 years ago, and it originated among "loser" types of white youth from dying towns like Aberdeen, WA, and how Seattle, which was undergoing massive gentrification in the 80s and 90s, while blue collar work declined, was the epicenter of this last breakthrough in rock.

Nice analysis and I agree with the basis of what you're saying.

However, demographic change was just 1 of the THREE factors I gave. The other two factors I gave have nothing to do with race. Slim95 just blew it out of proportion.


Yes, I expect like at least 80% White people at a rock concert. And I expect more women at a Mary J. Blige concert. Things could change, but it's just the way it is.

Exactly. Thank you for understanding me.


What if he's watched 40 rock concerts with 40 different bands? It counts as evidence, because it's a reality (if he has watched enough concerts/tours) and something that's somewhat quantifiable! Facts come from real life, where else does it come from? Even facts that are now on paper used to be from real life experiments and experiences.

Right on!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Stillinthe90s on 07/27/17 at 5:46 pm


Yes, I expect like at least 80% White people at a rock concert. And I expect more women at a Mary J. Blige concert. Things could change, but it's just the way it is.


That demand for "evidence" from Slim means some kind of scientific study and it's the sort of demand made by liberal partisans who are trying to defy commonsense. No one needs a study to know that rock musicians and audiences are overwhelmingly white.

Also, his claim that "blacks invented rock music" is specious. Yes, there's very strong black musical influence in early rock and roll, and the origins might even be mostly black, but that's very different from saying simply that blacks invented it, which leaves no room for other influences like white folks' country music blending with jazz and blues.  It's a partisan claim.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 80sfan on 07/27/17 at 5:49 pm


That demand for "evidence" from Slim means some kind of scientific study and it's the sort of demand made by liberal partisans who are trying to defy commonsense. No one needs a study to know that rock musicians and audiences are overwhelmingly white.

Also, his claim that "blacks invented rock music" is specious. Yes, there's very strong black musical influence in early rock and roll, and the origins might even be mostly black, but that's very different from saying simply that blacks invented it, which leaves no room for other influences like white folks' country music blending with jazz and blues.  It's a partisan claim.


I get why it's such a sensitive subject, though. A lot of blacks were pushed to the background, or treated badly back in the 1950's, and before!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Stillinthe90s on 07/27/17 at 5:52 pm


Nice analysis and I agree with the basis of what you're saying.

However, demographic change was just 1 of the THREE factors I gave. The other two factors I gave have nothing to do with race. Slim95 just blew it out of proportion.
Exactly. Thank you for understanding me.
Right on!


As far as a third factor you gave, streaming services contributing to the decline of rock music, this wouldn't be specific to rock music. It could cause the decline of any type of music that was popular when streaming services took off. The question is why rock was less favored already when streaming services took off, since answering this would explain why no longer being dependent on what radio stations decide to play led people to consume more hip hop and other genres.

I do think digital music has had quite an influence on rock's decline. It's novel compared to drums and guitars, so when technology got far enough people wanted to experiment with it and media might have pushed it as the next big thing, since there's a widespread attitude in recent culture that anything electronic or befitting the digital age is better than what came before.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/27/17 at 5:59 pm


As far as a third factor you gave, streaming services contributing to the decline of rock music, this wouldn't be specific to rock music. It could cause the decline of any type of music that was popular when streaming services took off. The question is why rock was less favored already when streaming services took off, since answering this would explain why no longer being dependent on what radio stations decide to play led people to consume more hip hop and other genres.

The reason why I said that streaming contributed to the decline of rock is that because rock was the most popular genre music in the US for so long and many people couldn't "escape" it. However, streaming services came along and contributed to it's decline.


I do think digital music has had quite an influence on rock's decline. It's novel compared to drums and guitars, so when technology got far enough people wanted to experiment with it and media might have pushed it as the next big thing, since there's a widespread attitude in recent culture that anything electronic or befitting the digital age is better than what came before.

Yeah, I agree.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/27/17 at 6:01 pm


That demand for "evidence" from Slim means some kind of scientific study and it's the sort of demand made by liberal partisans who are trying to defy commonsense. No one needs a study to know that rock musicians and audiences are overwhelmingly white.

Also, his claim that "blacks invented rock music" is specious. Yes, there's very strong black musical influence in early rock and roll, and the origins might even be mostly black, but that's very different from saying simply that blacks invented it, which leaves no room for other influences like white folks' country music blending with jazz and blues.  It's a partisan claim.

Not sure about the "liberal partisan" part but everything else I agree with you on. Well said.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Stillinthe90s on 07/27/17 at 6:04 pm


Not sure about the "liberal partisan" part but everything else I agree with you on. Well said.


I just said that as shorthand. It's really more like cultural left partisan or even black nationalism, though I can't really tell which based on the posts. Either way, it's toward the left side of the political spectrum, specifically the identity politics part of the left.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/27/17 at 6:11 pm


I just said that as shorthand. It's really more like cultural left partisan or even black nationalism, though I can't really tell which based on the posts. Either way, it's toward the left side of the political spectrum, specifically the identity politics part of the left.

Oh OK. I guess you're right.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Stillinthe90s on 07/27/17 at 6:12 pm


The reason why I said that streaming contributed to the decline of rock is that because rock was the most popular genre music in the US for so long and many people couldn't "escape" it. However, streaming services came along and contributed to it's decline.
Yeah, I agree.


Yeah, I get your point that streaming contributed to breaking rock music media hegemony. However, this still means a hidden demand for other types of music had built up beyond what was being reflected on the radio, and the cause of this buildup is the causal factor in rock's decline. Streaming is just the means for registering the mismatch between what media is providing and what people want.

The extent to which multiculturalist leanings in the media and academia have influenced people's tastes is another matter, just as the extent to which white-centrism in the media decades ago influenced people's tastes toward rock music is an issue at play.

Do people naturally gravitate toward music performed by their own identity group or are preferences conditioned by cultural learning?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/27/17 at 6:13 pm

Here is a non-anecdotal fact you crave Slim95 ::):

By 2011, when a popular New York “classic rock” radio station held a listener poll to determine the “Top 1,043” songs of all time, only 22—roughly 2 percent—were recordings by black artists, and 16 of those 22 were by the late Jimi Hendrix.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 07/27/17 at 6:14 pm


Still anecdotal.


Well to be fair, what evidence have you provided? The only thing you have done is denied what ReignMan has said. I'm not suggesting that you're in the wrong, but you haven't used any stats or sources to back up your opinion. You're just stating your opinion as a fact.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/27/17 at 6:18 pm


Yeah, I get your point that streaming contributed to breaking rock music media hegemony. However, this still means a hidden demand for other types of music had built up beyond what was being reflected on the radio, and the cause of this buildup is the causal factor in rock's decline. Streaming is just the means for registering the mismatch between what media is providing and what people want.

The extent to which multiculturalist leanings in the media and academia have influenced people's tastes is another matter, just as the extent to which white-centrism in the media decades ago influenced people's tastes toward rock music is an issue at play.

Great. I'm glad that you understand my point and I agree with your point as well.


Do people naturally gravitate toward music performed by their own identity group or are preferences conditioned by cultural learning?

That's a tough one. I do think that most people today don't but maybe subconsciously some of us do slightly prefer artists of our own identity group.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Stillinthe90s on 07/27/17 at 6:27 pm


Great. I'm glad that you understand my point and I agree with your point as well.
That's a tough one. I do think that most people today don't but maybe subconsciously some of us do slightly prefer artists of our own identity group.


Yeah, this question is a tough one to answer. I can't think of any great way to approach it off the top of my head.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Stillinthe90s on 07/27/17 at 6:39 pm


Great. I'm glad that you understand my point and I agree with your point as well.
That's a tough one. I do think that most people today don't but maybe subconsciously some of us do slightly prefer artists of our own identity group.


Just to say a few words about the formation of musical preferences, it probably has something to do with what one hears at an early age and what one listens to with one's peer group as a kid. Music that falls outside one's established tastes is probably easier to adopt when it contains familiar elements, or when it's associated with an attitude or look that one desires to have.

Also, a catchy melody never hurts. I grew up with white music (oldies, folk rock, classic rock, 80s rock etc.) and then adopted grunge and alternative in the early 90s, but I liked g-funk right away in 1993 after my sister started listening to The Chronic because it sounded good. It's catchy.

Then again, catchiness is culturally informed as well, like the 4/4 time signature so common in Western music, which is also common in rap and blues.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/27/17 at 6:43 pm


Just to say a few words about the formation of musical preferences, it probably has something to do with what one hears at an early age and what one listens to with one's peer group as a kid. Music that falls outside one's established tastes is probably easier to adopt when it contains familiar elements, or when it's associated with an attitude or look that one desires to have.

Also, a catchy melody never hurts. I grew up with white music (oldies, folk rock, classic rock, 80s rock etc.) and then adopted grunge and alternative in the early 90s, but I liked g-funk right away in 1993 after my sister started listening to The Chronic because it sounded good. It's catchy.

Then again, catchiness is culturally informed as well, like the 4/4 time signature so common in Western music, which is also common in rap and blues.

Yeah, I think you're on to something.

When I was young...my mother played music from a variety of genres and also from a variety of decades (the 1970s-1990s) and I highly believe that this is the reason why I liked a variety of musical genres. However, some genres I liked more than others because it was deemed "cooler".

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 80sfan on 07/27/17 at 6:44 pm


Great. I'm glad that you understand my point and I agree with your point as well.
That's a tough one. I do think that most people today don't but maybe subconsciously some of us do slightly prefer artists of our own identity group.


Sometimes it's not subconscious.  ;D  ;D  ;D

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/27/17 at 6:44 pm


Sometimes it's not subconscious.  ;D  ;D  ;D

You're right but I didn't want to say it :-X.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 07/27/17 at 7:30 pm


That demand for "evidence" from Slim means some kind of scientific study and it's the sort of demand made by liberal partisans who are trying to defy commonsense. No one needs a study to know that rock musicians and audiences are overwhelmingly white.

Also, his claim that "blacks invented rock music" is specious. Yes, there's very strong black musical influence in early rock and roll, and the origins might even be mostly black, but that's very different from saying simply that blacks invented it, which leaves no room for other influences like white folks' country music blending with jazz and blues.  It's a partisan claim.

I am a liberal, and I also don't believe rock music is listened to by an "overwhelmingly majority" of white people. I just don't see it, musical taste is so broad and expands across so many races that this stereotype doesn't make sense to me. It is not "common sense" as music can be listened to by everyone. And even if that was the case, I do not at all believe that contributed to the decline of rock, especially since it has slowly been dying a long time ago.


Well to be fair, what evidence have you provided? The only thing you have done is denied what ReignMan has said. I'm not suggesting that you're in the wrong, but you haven't used any stats or sources to back up your opinion. You're just stating your opinion as a fact.

You can't find evidence for this sort of thing that's the point. No amount of surveys can tell you what the entire population of the U.S. listens to, too many variables and musical taste changes all the time. That's why it is unfair to say an overwhelming majority of white people listen to rock.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Stillinthe90s on 07/27/17 at 7:42 pm


I am a liberal, and I also don't believe rock music is listened to by an "overwhelmingly majority" of white people. I just don't see it, musical taste is so broad and expands across so many races that this stereotype doesn't make sense to me. It is not "common sense" as music can be listened to by everyone. And even if that was the case, I do not at all believe that contributed to the decline of rock, especially since it has slowly been dying a long time ago.


First of all, I didn't say an overwhelming majority of white people listen to rock music. I said the overwhelming majority of rock fans are white. Those two statements arrange the Venn diagrams differently.

Yeah, maybe rock fans aren't mostly white or it's a small majority, but I see no reason to believe this. If you know of a study that breaks down the proportion of rock music listeners based on race, I'd be interested.

Also, you don't believe that what contributed to the decline of rock music? Shrinking white portion of the population or perceptions of what's hip?

I said that changing perceptions of what's hip, along with creative dormancy in rock music since the grunge explosion twenty-five years ago, have been a big cause of the decline, and left open why exactly perceptions changed. I also agreed with ReignMan that the rise of digital music has hurt rock music. I also suggested that multiculturalism in the media and academia have shaped culture such that rock music, which is associated with whites (no matter the demographic breakdown, the association is there), is viewed as less hip than genres more associated with blacks and Latinos.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/27/17 at 8:00 pm


First of all, I didn't say an overwhelming majority of white people listen to rock music. I said the overwhelming majority of rock fans are white. Those two statements arrange the Venn diagrams differently.

Yeah, maybe rock fans aren't mostly white or it's a small majority, but I see no reason to believe this. If you know of a study that breaks down the proportion of rock music listeners based on race, I'd be interested.

Also, you don't believe that what contributed to the decline of rock music? Shrinking white portion of the population or perceptions of what's hip?

I said that changing perceptions of what's hip, along with creative dormancy in rock music since the grunge explosion twenty-five years ago, have been a big cause of the decline, and left open why exactly perceptions changed. I also agreed with ReignMan that the rise of digital music has hurt rock music. I also suggested that multiculturalism in the media and academia have shaped culture such that rock music, which is associated with whites (no matter the demographic breakdown, the association is there), is viewed as less hip than genres more associated with blacks and Latinos.

Spot on!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Stillinthe90s on 07/27/17 at 8:06 pm


Spot on!


Just as a follow up to what I wrote, I wouldn't even say that the majority of whites are fans of rock music in the sense that they have any strong commitment to it. Most people probably just like what music they like without regarding the genre as "their thing." Also, I suspect most whites like pop music more than rock, at least nowadays, and especially more than the harder or darker types of rock like early grunge.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/27/17 at 8:15 pm


Just as a follow up to what I wrote, I wouldn't even say that the majority of whites are fans of rock music in the sense that they have any strong commitment to it. Most people probably just like what music they like without regarding the genre as "their thing." Also, I suspect most whites like pop music more than rock, at least nowadays, and especially more than the harder or darker types of rock like early grunge.

There are some White people who only or primarily like rock music (any subgenre) but yeah I agree with your rest of your statement.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Stillinthe90s on 07/27/17 at 8:26 pm


There are some White people who only or primarily like rock music (any subgenre) but yeah I agree with your rest of your statement.


Yeah, I agree that some whites are rock aficionados who prefer rock in general over other types of music.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 07/27/17 at 11:06 pm


Yes, Asians and Latinos do have a higher liking of rock music more than Black people but it's still not too high and the fact remains that the OVERWHELMINGLY MAJORITY (notice, I didn't say all) of rock fans and musicians are White.

Also, proof? Come on guys...stop being naive ::). Just go to any rock concert and just look at out at the audience...it's a sea of Whiteness.


Maybe the concert is white because you live in a white area? lol.

I'm pretty sure Brazil is one of the biggest countries for metal and Japan is one of the biggest (if not the biggest?) countries for rock. I went to high school with a lot of Asians and Japanese rock was very popular in the late 2000s. There were also popular bands we grew up with having Asian band members, like Linkin Park having a Korean DJ and Japanese guitarist and Sum 41 having a South Asian guitarist.

Anyway, even though the country is becoming less white as a percentage, the white population is still increasing in raw numbers, so that doesn't correlate with tanking sales for rock music.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/28/17 at 12:08 am


Maybe the concert is white because you live in a white area? lol.

I live in NYC and you already know that or did you forget? ;D


I'm pretty sure Brazil is one of the biggest countries for metal and Japan is one of the biggest (if not the biggest?) countries for rock. I went to high school with a lot of Asians and Japanese rock was very popular in the late 2000s. There were also popular bands we grew up with having Asian band members, like Linkin Park having a Korean DJ and Japanese guitarist and Sum 41 having a South Asian guitarist.

Brazil has a significant White population (47.73% of Brazil's population identifies as White) and the three most popular kinds of music in Brazil are samba music, bossa nova and the Afro-Brazilian hip hop NOT metal. Also, just because there are a few Asians in rock bands and some Asian rock fans...doesn't disprove my point. I seriously don't get why you and Slim95 are denying BLATANT FACTS. Just give it up.


Anyway, even though the country is becoming less white as a percentage, the white population is still increasing in raw numbers, so that doesn't correlate with tanking sales for rock music.

Maybe in Canada but definitely not in the US. Also, the declining White population in the US is definitely one of the factors (but not the only factor...which you and Slim95 seem to forget that I mentioned 2 other factors).

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 07/28/17 at 12:04 pm


I live in NYC and you already know that or did you forget? ;D

Maybe it's a white area of NYC lol. What concert was it?


Brazil has a significant White population (47.73% of Brazil's population identifies as White) and the three most popular kinds of music in Brazil are samba music, bossa nova and the Afro-Brazilian hip hop NOT metal. Also, just because there are a few Asians in rock bands and some Asian rock fans...doesn't disprove my point. I seriously don't get why you and Slim95 are denying BLATANT FACTS. Just give it up.

Maybe in Canada but definitely not in the US. Also, the declining White population in the US is definitely one of the factors (but not the only factor...which you and Slim95 seem to forget that I mentioned 2 other factors).


I thought we were putting Latinos into their own group? Brazilians speak Portuguese which is derived from Latin. It is a 100% Latino country, except those Amazonian tribes. And I said Brazil is one of the biggest countries for metal, not that metal is one of the biggest genres for Brazil, those are two different things. And it does matter, if Latinos and Asians listen to rock and their populations are growing, then it punches a hole in your theory. And the white population is growing too. It was 194 million in 2000 and it was 197 million in 2012, so that doesn't correlate with the decline of rock. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Hispanic_whites?wprov=sfla1)

I was just following the quote chain lol. Digitized music has a lot to do with it, but I don't think streaming has anything to do with it since rock disappeared from the charts in 2010 and that was before streaming.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/28/17 at 3:05 pm



Maybe it's a white area of NYC lol. What concert was it?

Concert?  ???. Also, no it's not a White area of NYC.


I thought we were putting Latinos into their own group? Brazilians speak Portuguese which is derived from Latin. It is a 100% Latino country, except those Amazonian tribes. And I said Brazil is one of the biggest countries for metal, not that metal is one of the biggest genres for Brazil, those are two different things. And it does matter, if Latinos and Asians listen to rock and their populations are growing, then it punches a hole in your theory. And the white population is growing too. It was 194 million in 2000 and it was 197 million in 2012, so that doesn't correlate with the decline of rock. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Hispanic_whites?wprov=sfla1)

I was just following the quote chain lol. Digitized music has a lot to do with it, but I don't think streaming has anything to do with it since rock disappeared from the charts in 2010 and that was before streaming.

I'm not gonna be here and continue debating something that is a pure fact. If you and Slim95 don't want to believe a blatant fact then whatever...not my problem. I'm done....I never thought that I would have so much resistance to a pretty well known thing. Wow...unbelievable :-\\.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/28/17 at 3:19 pm

Also, you guys seem to be interpreting my statement as that only White people should listen to rock when I don't believe that and I've never said that.

Additionally, if you guys re-read my original post you'll see that I was answering the question "Will rock become massively popular again in the USA?" and I think that I answered that question appropriately. Maybe, I should just stopping giving my reasonings on certain issues :-\\.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 07/28/17 at 4:44 pm


Concert?  ???. Also, no it's not a White area of NYC.


Didn't you say you went a rock concert and it was all white?


I'm not gonna be here and continue debating something that is a pure fact. If you and Slim95 don't want to believe a blatant fact then whatever...not my problem. I'm done....I never thought that I would have so much resistance to a pretty well known thing. Wow...unbelievable :-\\.


You keep saying blatant fact but you never proved anything lol. It also sounds very US centric. Because black Americans don't listen to it anymore, only white people listen to it? And because the US white population is declining as a percentage, rock is declining worldwide? There's a whole other world out there.  Babymetal was one of the biggest rock acts last year, charted high in Japan and #2 in US world charts, and I was hearing their songs everywhere in Toronto. It's a 100% Japanese band, nothing white about it.


Also, you guys seem to be interpreting my statement as that only White people should listen to rock when I don't believe that and I've never said that.

Additionally, if you guys re-read my original post you'll see that I was answering the question "Will rock become massively popular again in the USA?" and I think that I answered that question appropriately. Maybe, I should just stopping giving my reasonings on certain issues :-\\.


Chill, dude. What I notice is you get angry very quickly when someone replies to you, not just this thread  :-X and this wasn't a political argument until people started saying things like PC and liberal partisan.  :-X :-X

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/28/17 at 4:50 pm




Didn't you say you went a rock concert and it was all white?

No comment man :-\\.


You keep saying blatant fact but you never proved anything lol. It also sounds very US centric. Because black Americans don't listen to it anymore, only white people listen to it? And because the US white population is declining as a percentage, rock is declining worldwide? There's a whole other world out there.  Babymetal was one of the biggest rock acts last year, charted high in Japan and #2 in US world charts, and I was hearing their songs everywhere in Toronto. It's a 100% Japanese band, nothing white about it.

Yeah, this comment proves that you and Slim95 don't get what I'm saying and also deny blatant facts.


Chill, dude. What I notice is you get angry very quickly when someone replies to you, not just this thread  :-X and this wasn't a political argument until people started saying things like PC and liberal partisan.  :-X :-X

Not angry...just frustrated at the denial of a well known fact.

Please...as I've said before...just stop.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/28/17 at 4:51 pm

Slowpoke and Slim95...I'm officially done here.

If you didn't hear me the last few times.....JUST STOP.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/28/17 at 4:56 pm

Also, I will no longer post my reasonings on certain issues because some people keep misinterpreting my posts. I can't deal with these debates anymore. That is all.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 07/28/17 at 5:33 pm


I am a liberal, and I also don't believe rock music is listened to by an "overwhelmingly majority" of white people. I just don't see it, musical taste is so broad and expands across so many races that this stereotype doesn't make sense to me. It is not "common sense" as music can be listened to by everyone. And even if that was the case, I do not at all believe that contributed to the decline of rock, especially since it has slowly been dying a long time ago.
You can't find evidence for this sort of thing that's the point. No amount of surveys can tell you what the entire population of the U.S. listens to, too many variables and musical taste changes all the time. That's why it is unfair to say an overwhelming majority of white people listen to rock.


Slim, I don't think Still and Reign are being malicious or have malevolent intent. As far as I know, they're just being matter of fact. I've gone to a lot of rock shows and the only one I've been to where there were a substantial amount of non-blacks was at a Toro y Moi show. Hell, I'm not even sure if there were other blacks at the TV On The Radio show that I went to. lol

It would be nice if there were more black rock fans but in my experience, most African Americans think of rock as a non-black musical genre, if not a white genre.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/28/17 at 5:37 pm


Slim, I don't think Still and Reign are being malicious or have malevolent intent. As far as I know, they're just being matter of fact. I've gone to a lot of rock shows and the only one I've been to where there were a substantial amount of non-blacks was at a Toro y Moi show. Hell, I'm not even sure if there were other blacks at the TV On The Radio show that I went to. lol

It would be nice if there were more black rock fans but in my experience, most African Americans think of rock as a non-black musical genre, if not a white genre.

Exactly! Thanks for understanding and also giving your own anecdote.

If a person likes rock music then their skin color doesn't and shouldn't matter....however, it's undeniable that the majority of rock fans (in Western countries, at least) are White people.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 07/28/17 at 6:47 pm


Slowpoke and Slim95...I'm officially done here.

If you didn't hear me the last few times.....JUST STOP.


Ermm... Okay. IDK what we said that offended you, but if you don't want to talk that's fine.


Slim, I don't think Still and Reign are being malicious or have malevolent intent. As far as I know, they're just being matter of fact. I've gone to a lot of rock shows and the only one I've been to where there were a substantial amount of non-blacks was at a Toro y Moi show. Hell, I'm not even sure if there were other blacks at the TV On The Radio show that I went to. lol

It would be nice if there were more black rock fans but in my experience, most African Americans think of rock as a non-black musical genre, if not a white genre.


Did you mean to say non whites?

Only rock show I've been to was the Supercrawl in my hometown of Hamilton, Ontario. The city is 85% white, so no surprise that most people there were white, but I saw other Asians there.  I came for Arkells though not to look at the stoned people. :D ;D

Edit: oh yeah, I forgot about the free Tyler Shaw show I went to last year. That was a really diverse crowd. I'm not sure if he counts as rock though.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/28/17 at 6:52 pm


Ermm... Okay. IDK what we said that offended you, but if you don't want to talk that's fine.

Offended? Not in the least. I'm just shocked that you guys are denying a well known fact. It's so ridiculous that's it's quite funny...you guys seem offended that I pointed out rock music's lack of a diverse audience ;D.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 07/28/17 at 7:00 pm


Offended? Not in the least. I'm just shocked that you guys are denying a well known fact. It's so ridiculous that's it's quite funny...you guys seem offended that I pointed out rock music's lack of a diverse audience ;D.


Hmm, I thought you said you were done talking? :P if you want to pick up the conversation again you could write a proper reply to what I wrote before. But I know where this conversation is going to go, so I think it's best we just leave it.  :-X

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/28/17 at 7:10 pm


Hmm, I thought you said you were done talking? :P if you want to pick up the conversation again you could write a proper reply to what I wrote before. But I know where this conversation is going to go, so I think it's best we just leave it.  :-X

I am done. I'm just addressing a statement you made about me.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 2001 on 07/28/17 at 8:51 pm


I am done. I'm just addressing a statement you made about me.


Okay, no hard feelings.  :)

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 07/28/17 at 8:52 pm


Okay, no hard feelings.  :)

Of course no hard feelings :). 

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 80sfan on 07/28/17 at 9:16 pm

'Despacito' might beat Mariah Carey's 16 week at # 1 record of her song, 'One Sweet Day'.  :P

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 07/29/17 at 2:52 am


'Despacito' might beat Mariah Carey's 16 week at # 1 record of her song, 'One Sweet Day'.  :P


It would be nice if it would overtake Ed Sheeran's "Shape of You" to become song of the year.  I like "Despacito" much better than "Shape Of You."

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 80sfan on 07/29/17 at 2:56 am


It would be nice if it would overtake Ed Sheeran's "Shape of You" to become song of the year.  I like "Despacito" much better than "Shape Of You."


I agree. I'm not much of an Ed Sheeran fan.  ;D  ;D  ;D

I'm sure he's a nice guy, but his music blows, in my opinion.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 07/30/17 at 1:16 pm


I agree. I'm not much of an Ed Sheeran fan.  ;D  ;D  ;D

I'm sure he's a nice guy, but his music blows, in my opinion.


His music isn't that bad in my opinion its just not good enough to get the kind of airplay it does.  Anything Ed Sheeran releases gets played into the ground.  "Thinking Out Loud" is a good song, but after a few months I never wanted to hear it again because stations played it almost on the hour.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 08/04/17 at 7:06 pm

This song sounds very late '90s to me.  It came out in 2016 but its starting to get radio play in my area.  My area is a bit behind so most people here might have already heard it.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 08/04/17 at 7:16 pm


This song sounds very late '90s to me.  It came out in 2016 but its starting to get radio play in my area.  My area is a bit behind so most people here might have already heard it.

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I heard it in 2016. But it sounds more  early '80s to me than late '90s.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 08/05/17 at 12:33 am


I heard it in 2016. But it sounds more  early '80s to me than late '90s.


Definitely more 80s than 90s but I can't see how someone could mistake this for a 90s rap song that sampled an 80s r&b song. lol.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 08/05/17 at 1:23 am

I think it might could be '80s.  It would be late '80s though.  Like '88 or '89.

This is a similar song from 1989.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 08/08/17 at 11:07 pm

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Wow, a new hip-hop song I actually like.  This reminds me of something that would have been popular around 2003ish.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 08/09/17 at 5:06 am

Portugal The Man actually made it into the Top 100. Didn't expect the late 2000s/early 2010s indie rock/pop to make it so late in the decade.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 08/09/17 at 3:50 pm


Portugal The Man actually made it into the Top 100. Didn't expect the late 2000s/early 2010s indie rock/pop to make it so late in the decade.

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Definitely has a mid '10s sound to me.  Very much along the lines of "Get Lucky" or "Blurred Lines."

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 08/09/17 at 5:31 pm


Definitely has a mid '10s sound to me.  Very much along the lines of "Get Lucky" or "Blurred Lines."

Get Lucky and Blurred Lines are technically early 2010s songs because they came out in 2013.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Mat1991 on 08/09/17 at 5:48 pm


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Wow, a new hip-hop song I actually like.  This reminds me of something that would have been popular around 2003ish.


I don't see what's so great about that ish. Just another ratchet bitch glorifying being a horrible person.  8-P

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/09/17 at 5:51 pm


I don't see what's so great about that ish. Just another basic bitch glorifying being a horrible person.  8-P

I agree. Cardi B is an attractive girl to me on the outside but her personality is more ignorant and brash...I don't like that. Also, her music is meh.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 08/09/17 at 5:52 pm


I don't see what's so great about that ish. Just another basic bitch glorifying being a horrible person.  8-P


Well it's not great.  It's better than most current music though.  It's refreshing to hear a song that is at least somewhat palatable on the radio these days.

Truly, music today is in an absolutely terrible state.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/09/17 at 5:59 pm


Well it's not great.  It's better than most current music though.  It's refreshing to hear a song that is at least somewhat palatable on the radio these days.

Truly, music today is in an absolutely terrible state.

I definitely wouldn't say that her song is "better than most current music though" nor would I say that it's "refreshing to hear".

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/09/17 at 7:11 pm


Well it's not great.  It's better than most current music though.  It's refreshing to hear a song that is at least somewhat palatable on the radio these days.

Truly, music today is in an absolutely terrible state.



I definitely wouldn't say that her song is "better than most current music though" nor would I say that it's "refreshing to hear".
What do you both think about the song Despacito?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/09/17 at 7:12 pm


What do you both think about the song Despacito?

It's catchy, I like it.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/09/17 at 7:23 pm


It's catchy, I like it.
Do you think Latin music could make a comeback?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/09/17 at 7:29 pm


Do you think Latin music could make a comeback?

Maybe.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 08/09/17 at 10:13 pm


I don't see what's so great about that ish. Just another ratchet bitch glorifying being a horrible person.  8-P


Me neither. She sounds like someone I would want to avoid and not because I think she's dangerous.

I also hope Latin music doesn't get super popular while I'm alive. US American pop already blends together too much for my taste. Latin/reggaeton pop, whatever all sound more or less like the same song to my ear.  :(

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 08/09/17 at 10:39 pm


Me neither. She sounds like someone I would want to avoid and not because I think she's dangerous.

I also hope Latin music doesn't get super popular while I'm alive. US American pop already blends together too much for my taste. Latin/reggaeton pop, whatever all sound more or less like the same song to my ear.  :(


The first genre that has ever "blended together" for me is the current style of trap.  The piano background, slow beat, and autotuned mumbling.  It's hard to tell one song from another.

I would welcome Latin pop to become more prominent.  I think that's currently the one bright spot in '10s music, especially 2017.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/09/17 at 11:16 pm

Latin pop is only good in small bunches. I probably couldn't tolerate Latin pop dominating the music charts here in the U.S.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Brian06 on 08/09/17 at 11:17 pm

What's an example of a trap song?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/09/17 at 11:19 pm


What's an example of a trap song?

"Mask Off" by Future (2017)

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 08/10/17 at 2:04 am

The only popular song which I don't mind is Miley Cyrus' "Malibu". I wouldn't go out of my way to listen to it, but it's definitely better than the EDM and trap music which is suffocating the charts. I didn't mind "Sign of the Times" either, but that has since fallen off the charts.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 08/12/17 at 1:18 am


The first genre that has ever "blended together" for me is the current style of trap.  The piano background, slow beat, and autotuned mumbling.  It's hard to tell one song from another.

I would welcome Latin pop to become more prominent.  I think that's currently the one bright spot in '10s music, especially 2017.


For me, it would be like going from one insufferable genre to another. But if it's your kind of thing...good for you. lol.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 08/18/17 at 8:56 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LX2kpeyp80

Miley Cyrus has released a new single, titled "Younger Now". It's not too bad. I think it's one of the best songs to have been released this year.

Note the strong presence of the guitar in the song. Is it just me, or has the guitar been featured in quite a few releases this year? It's something I've definitely picked up on.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 08/19/17 at 4:12 am

What are your thoughts on the song and the question I asked above?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Fearsword on 08/21/17 at 7:06 am

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Cut to the feeling-Carly Rae Jepsen

Recent song by the "Call Me Maybe" singer. I honestly think this is the best song of her career. It's a shame ive never heard it on the radio yet or on the charts as I believe she's so much more than one of her worst songs being her biggest hit. Though Call Me Maybe didn't become a hit until nearly a year after its release so there's still time perhaps. This song was released back in May.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 09/01/17 at 11:57 pm

Not sure if this has been posted, but I really like Mr. Worldwide's latest single.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Longaotian00 on 09/02/17 at 12:01 am


Not sure if this has been posted, but I really like Mr. Worldwide's latest single.

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This song is quite old.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LyricBoy on 09/02/17 at 7:33 am


Not sure if this has been posted, but I really like Mr. Worldwide's latest single.

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What's not to like? This is classic Pitbull. Once again scoring all the hot chicks.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: JordanK1982 on 09/02/17 at 10:47 am

Mr. Worldwide's new song brings the party! Once again he takes the top 40 by storm and remains culturally relevant.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 09/02/17 at 3:03 pm


Mr. Worldwide's new song brings the party! Once again he takes the top 40 by storm and remains culturally relevant.


I wish the song had performed better on the charts because it's great.  It's much better than "Unforgettable" by French Montana.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 09/02/17 at 4:50 pm


I wish the song had performed better on the charts because it's great.  It's much better than "Unforgettable" by French Montana.

"Unforgettable" is much better than "Options" IMO.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Longaotian00 on 09/02/17 at 5:04 pm


I wish the song had performed better on the charts because it's great.  It's much better than "Unforgettable" by French Montana.


Over here "options" did pretty good reaching number 4 on the charts.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Rainbowz on 09/02/17 at 5:15 pm

Recently just fell in love with these 2017 songs
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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 09/05/17 at 1:20 am

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 09/07/17 at 9:38 pm

I must concur with the "guitar music becoming more prominent this year" piece. I am cautiously excited to see where this goes.

See, e.g.:
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On a somewhat unrelated note, I see Nine Inch Nails released another new EP this year and it's been charting very well for what it is. Any chance we see NIN make a comeback? I remember they were the bees knees when I was growing up.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 09/07/17 at 9:53 pm


I must concur with the "guitar music becoming more prominent this year" piece. I am cautiously excited to see where this goes.

See, e.g.:
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I like this.  It almost sounds like the kind of rock that was popular in the late '00s, in the "post-emo" era ca. 2008-10.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 09/07/17 at 9:58 pm

Yeah I was actually gonna say strong blink-182/Yellowcard/Jimmy Eat World vibes for me, like 2000-2003.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 09/07/17 at 10:09 pm


Yeah I was actually gonna say strong blink-182/Yellowcard/Jimmy Eat World vibes for me, like 2000-2003.


I think you are right there.  This is definitely more early '00s than late '00s.  I would welcome early '00s-inspired artists and songs becoming more popular but I don't want to see a full-on revival, mostly because I don't want to see the '00s milked dry for money like the '90s have been this decade. 

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 09/07/17 at 10:22 pm

That's fair. At any rate, I've lurked this entire thread by now, and I would have to agree that guitar music is slowly crawling its way back up into the top of the charts. It was a little touch and go there in the spring, but something resembling rock music seems to be finding its footing in the new cultural age that's emerging.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 09/07/17 at 11:03 pm

This year was one of the worst years for music this decade in my opinion. Even 2016 was better and I also hated that year for music.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 09/07/17 at 11:25 pm


This year was one of the worst years for music this decade in my opinion. Even 2016 was better and I also hated that year for music.

Not to me.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 09/08/17 at 12:07 am


That's fair. At any rate, I've lurked this entire thread by now, and I would have to agree that guitar music is slowly crawling its way back up into the top of the charts. It was a little touch and go there in the spring, but something resembling rock music seems to be finding its footing in the new cultural age that's emerging.


I agree. Also, the album that "In Bloom" (the Neck Deep song) comes off peaked at #4 on the Billboard Top 200 album chart! I also remember someone else on here saying that at the moment, there is an album by an Early 2000's punk band ("Brand New" something) which is currently at #1. Ever since "Sign of the Times" came out back in March, I have been saying that rock is slowly emerging back into the mainstream. There's enough evidence to suggest that it is the case, in my opinion. :)

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 09/08/17 at 5:55 am

Wow, Brand New!? That one flew under the radar for me, but that's great news.

Anyway, yeah, even in 2016 there was evidence that guitar music was coming back, what with the renewed interest in emo music (including Brendan Urie releasing a new Panic! album to substantial interest, even if it wasn't "rock"), two well-received Weezer albums back-to-back in 2014 and 2016 (the latter of which had something like three successful singles, although I don't know how high they charted), Eric Nally from the obscure post-hardcore/soul band Foxy Shazam guesting on Macklemore's Downtown, and the return of seasoned pop punk bands like blink-182.

Edit: Also - and I can't believe I forgot about this - add onto that the Green Day VMA performance of Revolution Radio to quite a bit of buzz. And their "No Trump! No KKK! No Fascist USA!" chant, holy crap, and the buzz/warm reception that generated. That's a chant adapted from a really obscure hardcore punk band from the 1980s, and they pulled that out to positive reception?! That's pretty wild.

I think the reason rock went dormant in the first place was because of how much emo and post-grunge, by 2007 or so, smacked of "Bush era culture." We were really trying to distance ourselves from that, so pop culture swung all the way in the opposite direction. You can see this in the mid- to late 1970s as well. But of course that can only last so long.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 09/08/17 at 8:01 am


Wow, Brand New!? That one flew under the radar for me, but that's great news.

I think the reason rock went dormant in the first place was because of how much emo and post-grunge, by 2007 or so, smacked of "Bush era culture." We were really trying to distance ourselves from that, so pop culture swung all the way in the opposite direction. You can see this in the mid- to late 1970s as well. But of course that can only last so long.


It was #1 on the album chart last week. Here is the link to it: :)

http://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200/2017-09-09

To add onto the list of things which suggests a rock comeback, Queens of the Stone Age's new album is currently at #3 on the Billboard Top 200 and #1 on the Australian ARIA album chart! :) Things are definitely heading in the right direction, in my opinion. If it continues at this rate, it may make a full fledged return sometime in the next 12-18 months, maybe even sooner. We don't know what 2018 has in store for us. None of us were expecting Harry Styles to come out with a pop rock debut-album. :P So who knows what will happen!

I agree. I'm starting to think that the lack of rock in the mainstream this decade, is purely due to a backlash against the post grunge and emo music of the 2000's. Nickelback was pretty much viewed as being a "laughing stock" by the end of the 2000s and emo had already received a lot of backlash. I have been making a compilation video of rock songs which have charted in the 2010's and to my surprise, there actually have been quite a few "rock" songs which have been pretty successful, songs such as "Radioactive", "Shut Up and Dance" and of course, "Sign of the Times".

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 09/08/17 at 9:16 am


Eric Nally from the obscure post-hardcore/soul band Foxy Shazam guesting on Macklemore's Downtown

That was from 2015 actually

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 09/08/17 at 9:22 am

Huh. Excuse me while I go fix my 2008-2016 playlist. :P

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Rainbowz on 09/08/17 at 6:14 pm

Damn. I think 2017 has been a really great year for hip-hop/rap music! Legit almost every hip-hop/rap song that came out this year I find really catchy! Here are some that I like:
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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 09/09/17 at 9:22 pm

They say the first step is admitting you have a problem, and well, here I am. I need help...coming up with a name for this.

https://open.spotify.com/user/zachhlg/playlist/6NBOLhQnwnOZOt3m8xsFyU

:D

Obviously this is a work in progress.

Also:

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I have this big freakin' grin on my face to see Fueled By Ramen churning out solid songs and artists again.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: annimal on 09/09/17 at 10:21 pm

I'll have to see if I can pick if I can hear this stuff some day and know I'll need to see some lyrics

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 09/10/17 at 12:49 am

Kelly Clarkson and Sam Smith are back.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 09/10/17 at 12:52 am

Woah Akon and Bob Sinclar is back! Feels like we're in 2007 again.  :o
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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 09/10/17 at 1:02 am

I haven't listened to those songs yet, but I will later. What are your thoughts on them? Are they any good?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 09/10/17 at 1:12 am


I haven't listened to those songs yet, but I will later. What are your thoughts on them? Are they any good?

They're not bad!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 09/10/17 at 2:33 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KNEagEu0I8

This is the other new single from Kelly Clarkson's upcoming album. It has a rock backtrack!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 09/10/17 at 2:40 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt2k8PGm-TI

A new single from Zayn and Sia, called "Dusk Till Dawn". This song also has a rock backtrack in the chorus! I think it's safe to say that mainstream music is going through a transitional phase at the moment.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 09/10/17 at 3:22 am

Green Day is also back for another song

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 09/10/17 at 7:14 am

Aha! Good that I posted that YouTube mix then.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 09/14/17 at 8:53 pm

Here is Maroon 5's new single. Same classic electro style in this one.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 09/15/17 at 1:20 pm

'90s R&B singer Toni Braxton has released her new song "Deadwood".

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I think that the song is actually good. It sounds even a bit retro. What do you guys think?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Rainbowz on 09/15/17 at 4:20 pm


Woah Akon and Bob Sinclar is back! Feels like we're in 2007 again.  :o
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OMG I REMEMBER BOB SINCLAR

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 09/15/17 at 4:45 pm


Woah Akon and Bob Sinclar is back! Feels like we're in 2007 again.  :o
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This song does have more of a mid '10s EDM sound though than a late '00s Akon sound.  Still, it's quite a decent song.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 09/18/17 at 2:40 pm

Not Top 40, but I am in love with this song.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 09/18/17 at 3:56 pm

I know you guys didn't like Linkin Park's latest album, but they have released a touching music video tribute to their late singer.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Rainbowz on 09/18/17 at 4:05 pm

I feel like I'm the only one here who isn't a fan of rock music lol

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 09/18/17 at 4:09 pm


I feel like I'm the only one here who isn't a fan of rock music lol


I am not either, for the most part (there are some rock songs/bands I like but overall it's not my favorite genre).  I just posted a thread about this in the "More than a decade" subforum.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 09/18/17 at 11:26 pm

This was one of the most popular songs this year in Canada.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 09/18/17 at 11:28 pm


I feel like I'm the only one here who isn't a fan of rock music lol

I prefer classic rap music.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 09/19/17 at 10:11 am

Not sure if this has been posted yet but I think this song is going to be HUGE!!

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 09/20/17 at 12:20 am


Not sure if this has been posted yet but I think this song is going to be HUGE!!

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That song sounds different. It's nice though. I hope this style replaces trap lol.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 09/20/17 at 3:06 pm


That song sounds different. It's nice though. I hope this style replaces trap lol.


That's exactly what I was thinking.  It kind of has an early 2000s vibe yet its fresh in its own way.  I think it has a good shot.

Here's another new one I like.  This one has an electropop feel to it.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 09/20/17 at 6:28 pm

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 09/22/17 at 7:58 am

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Just to be clear: I hated the mid- to late 00s while they were happening. Any nostalgia I feel for that time is accompanied by the acknowledgment that most of what was coming out then, to me, was trash.

But no artist or creative work drew my ire quite like The Killers. To see them coming back is mad strange.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 09/22/17 at 4:23 pm


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Just to be clear: I hated the mid- to late 00s while they were happening. Any nostalgia I feel for that time is accompanied by the acknowledgment that most of what was coming out then, to me, was trash.

But no artist or creative work drew my ire quite like The Killers. To see them coming back is mad strange.


That song really has a late '70s/very early '80s vibe to it.  I am really surprised by how long disco revival has remained popular.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 09/22/17 at 7:17 pm

Right? It's like Bad Company or something.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 09/22/17 at 9:11 pm

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 09/23/17 at 12:51 am


That song really has a late '70s/very early '80s vibe to it.  I am really surprised by how long disco revival has remained popular.

The disco revival was the biggest in 2013, so it is definitely a core 2010s thing and not a mid 2010s thing as 2013 was part of the early '10s. It is definitely one aspect of music from this decade as a whole.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 09/29/17 at 7:59 am

No notable new singles or albums lately, eh?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Philip Eno on 09/29/17 at 8:06 am


No notable new singles or albums lately, eh?
Only that previously discuss Taylor Swift...

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheDude1999 on 09/29/17 at 2:02 pm

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: unicornic on 09/29/17 at 5:07 pm

This song is absolutely meaningful
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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Emman on 09/29/17 at 9:14 pm


That song really has a late '70s/very early '80s vibe to it.  I am really surprised by how long disco revival has remained popular.


One question, I know you dislike disco but why, seeing that you rave about early Lady Gaga who was hugely influenced by late '70s disco.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheDude1999 on 09/30/17 at 4:47 am

What do you dudes think of the new U2 song?  8)

EDIT: They also have two other mixes on spotify.

Acoustic: https://open.spotify.com/track/5XNbztaAl1xVVQPEUVDAAL

Kygo Remix: https://open.spotify.com/track/26NxkBtVQTGnYhc7KM5tAM?si=2cEmcn87

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 09/30/17 at 4:48 am


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Ew, U2. No offense to people that like them, I don't like the music and I think Bono is a giant piece of crapola. Still, if they have a new single this year and it's doing fairly well, guess I'm adding it to the pile. If anyone is interested, the last playlist in line in my signature is the one that pertains to the Age of Trump.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheDude1999 on 09/30/17 at 4:51 am


Ew, U2. No offense to people that like them, I don't like the music and I think Bono is a giant piece of sheesh. Still, if they have a new single this year and it's doing fairly well, guess I'm adding it to the pile. If anyone is interested, the last playlist in line in my signature is the one that pertains to the Age of Trump.


Alot of their 90s and 80s stuff (The Unforgettable Fire, The Joshua Tree, Achtung Baby, Zooropa) are pretty good, but you’re free to listen to whatever you want dude.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 09/30/17 at 5:58 am

Yeah I don't mean to rag on you or anything, that wasn't my intention at all. Thanks for not taking it personally though.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 09/30/17 at 7:50 am

Has this ended up on anyone's radar?

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We've been talking a lot in this thread about the return of guitar music, and this band has apparently been prominent on Vans Warped Tour. So I wonder if we may be wrong about clean, cut, '00s-style pop punk being the face of rock in the Age of Trump.

And now add to that the following:

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I mean, are these songs getting any sort of air play? If so, that's kind of wild. These songs sound like they were transported from 2003 or so, but if they're getting radio play in 2017 that's quite incredible.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Rainbowz on 09/30/17 at 11:01 am

I honestly love this song. It's so underrated
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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 09/30/17 at 5:24 pm


Has this ended up on anyone's radar?

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We've been talking a lot in this thread about the return of guitar music, and this band has apparently been prominent on Vans Warped Tour. So I wonder if we may be wrong about clean, cut, '00s-style pop punk being the face of rock in the Age of Trump.

And now add to that the following:

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I mean, are these songs getting any sort of air play? If so, that's kind of wild. These songs sound like they were transported from 2003 or so, but if they're getting radio play in 2017 that's quite incredible.


I had a listen to both songs. I personally haven't heard of those songs before. It would be great if they did achieve air-play and became successful, although I have my doubts, to be honest. They are probably a bit "too-heavy" for the general public to really accept. I hope i'm proven wrong, but I just can't see that type of genre being adopted by the mass media.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 09/30/17 at 6:20 pm

Not that I think we'd see either of these bands in the Hot 100, but there was the New Wave of American Heavy Metal right around '06-'07. Not quite mainstream, but there was definite household recognition of bands like A7x, Dragonforce, Dethklok (yes, I know), Dream Theater, etc.

And even then, never say never. Perhaps nu-metal was "too heavy" for real mainstream success, yet it was the definitive sound of the early '00s if you ask some.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 10/02/17 at 10:47 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljXSjIph5ZM

Here is Niall Horan's new single, "Too Much to Ask". Another song which predominantly features the guitar!  :o

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 10/03/17 at 1:21 am


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljXSjIph5ZM

Here is Niall Horan's new single, "Too Much to Ask". Another song which predominantly features the guitar!  :o


It's alright, a little generic, I think. Niall is definitely paving his own path though separating himself from 1D, he's kindness of becoming like the acoustic pop guy.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: mxcrashxm on 10/04/17 at 12:43 am


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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 10/04/17 at 9:50 am

Wow, nice posts! That's a lot of music.

My playlist for the Age of Trump is getting rather crowded. I anticipate that I'll have to trim it a bit once I have the benefit of hindsight.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: mxcrashxm on 10/04/17 at 12:37 pm


Wow, nice posts! That's a lot of music.

My playlist for the Age of Trump is getting rather crowded. I anticipate that I'll have to trim it a bit once I have the benefit of hindsight.
Thank you. Yeah, I have been listening to those songs (and others) on Pandora, and I have to say that they are amazing except for Trap rap. I just hope the music scene becomes diverse again though.

I take it you like those tracks as well?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 10/04/17 at 3:04 pm

Some of them, yeah, but I see that as mostly irrelevant. My playlist is more of a trend-tracking type of thing. See my sig, I made a bunch of others.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: mxcrashxm on 10/07/17 at 12:34 pm

Hey, does anyone think this a Latin influenced song? It seems so.

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Some of them, yeah, but I see that as mostly irrelevant. My playlist is more of a trend-tracking type of thing. See my sig, I made a bunch of others.
Yeah, I see them. I think sooner or later, there's going to be a playlist for this era.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 10/07/17 at 2:02 pm


Hey, does anyone think this a Latin influenced song? It seems so.

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Supposedly it is. However, in my opinion, it doesn't sound Latin influenced besides the name "Havana".

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 10/07/17 at 7:03 pm


I think sooner or later, there's going to be a playlist for this era.


That's why I'm actively at work on it. As to the original question, I'm of the same mind as TheReignMan99.

Based on what I've gathered in my playlist, I get this sense like the big hits this year are going to be In Bloom by Neck Deep, Give Love by Andy Grammer, Believer by Imagine Dragons, Despacito, Lights Out by Royal Blood, maybe I Feel It Coming by The Weeknd. Maybe also Cold Hard Truth by Nelly Furtado, I can see that one enduring.

What are your early predictions of what songs will be "iconic" for 2017? Not necessarily the Grammy winners, but just the ones that looking back, will be the songs we remember.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Rainbowz on 10/07/17 at 7:11 pm

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 10/07/17 at 7:17 pm

Korean boy-band BTS charted on the Australian ARIA chart for the time last week. Their newest EP charted within the Top-10 and the single off the album charted at #99. Perhaps a sign of things to come?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 10/07/17 at 7:45 pm


What are your early predictions of what songs will be "iconic" for 2017? Not necessarily the Grammy winners, but just the ones that looking back, will be the songs we remember.

Probably Despacito. I mean not only was it mega popular in the charts beating records and being the number one song of 2017, but it is also the first YouTube video to reach 3 billion views and the first YouTube video to get 1 billion views in 3 months, AND the first YouTube video to reach 4 billion views very soon (it is currently at 3.9 billion views)  :o

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 10/07/17 at 10:57 pm

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...also, Despecito will be forgotten as fast as it got popular.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 10/10/17 at 6:51 pm

According to YouTube, this is the single to watch out for:

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Rainbowz on 10/10/17 at 6:54 pm


According to YouTube, this is the single to watch out for:

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I just got done listening to that song and to be truly honest I didn’t really like it

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Longaotian00 on 10/10/17 at 7:00 pm


I just got done listening to that song and to be truly honest I didn’t really like it


Neither! Tbh, I actually find it a little annoying

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: mxcrashxm on 10/10/17 at 10:35 pm


Supposedly it is. However, in my opinion, it doesn't sound Latin-influenced besides the name "Havana".
Is it because of the lyrics?


What are your early predictions of what songs will be "iconic" for 2017? Not necessarily the Grammy winners, but just the ones that looking back will be the songs we remember.
I'm with Slim on Despacito and I also say Shape of You, I'm the One, Look at What You Made Me Do, Humble, and Stay.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 10/10/17 at 10:36 pm


Is it because of the lyrics?

No. The beat doesn't sound very "Latin" to me.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: mxcrashxm on 10/10/17 at 11:14 pm


No. The beat doesn't sound very "Latin" to me.
Oh. I see. Well, there will definitely be more Latin influenced songs coming up from her considering she's Cuban herself.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 10/16/17 at 5:49 pm


Hey, does anyone think this a Latin influenced song? It seems so.

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Yeah, I see them. I think sooner or later, there's going to be a playlist for this era.


Was about to post this song as I just heard it for the first time.  It's kind of faux-Latin, but it's very catchy and I really like it.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: mxcrashxm on 10/16/17 at 5:51 pm


Was about to post this song as I just heard it for the first time.  It's kind of faux-Latin, but it's very catchy and I really like it.
Same here! Ever since I heard that song, it's so catchy and it's been stuck in my head.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 10/16/17 at 6:01 pm

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: BornIn86 on 10/16/17 at 7:19 pm


I just got done listening to that song and to be truly honest I didn’t really like it


The song isn't special but it isn't horrible.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: J. Rob on 10/18/17 at 12:03 pm

One of the artists leading the "Alternative R&B" wave.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Fearsword on 10/19/17 at 3:48 pm

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Another rock song rapidly rising up the charts in Australia!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 10/19/17 at 4:18 pm


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Another rock song rapidly rising up the charts in Australia!


I've heard this.  I wouldn't really consider it "rock."  To me it sounds a lot like "Get Lucky" and that type of sound has been quite persistent this decade.  I don't know why but I am just not too bullish on a true rock revival, at least at this point.

Here's a new hip-hop song I heard yesterday.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Rainbowz on 10/19/17 at 7:19 pm


I've heard this.  I wouldn't really consider it "rock."  To me it sounds a lot like "Get Lucky" and that type of sound has been quite persistent this decade.  I don't know why but I am just not too bullish on a true rock revival, at least at this point.

Here's a new hip-hop song I heard yesterday.

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Wow this is a pretty catchy song

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 10/22/17 at 2:34 pm

I have a feeling this board will like this song, especially the vocal style.  Definitely a throwback to early '00s pop punk with modern electropop elements.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Rainbowz on 10/28/17 at 6:18 pm

I heard this new song on the radio and I instantly fell in love with it.
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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 11/01/17 at 2:31 pm

Just released today, what's everyone's thoughts on it?

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N.E.R.D. & Rihanna - Lemon

Interesting that N.E.R.D. is releasing a song at all, I'm kind of surprised Rihanna is straight up rapping here, wouldn't be surprised if she has a few rap songs on her next album considering she rapped on LOYALTY by Kendrick Lamar and Hip Hop is becoming much more popular, especially this year.

Overall though, I'm pretty indifferent towards the song, but that's how I am on most songs the first time I hear them, and it seemed like a noteworthy release.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Rainbowz on 11/01/17 at 2:45 pm


Just released today, what's everyone's thoughts on it?

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N.E.R.D. & Rihanna - Lemon

Interesting that N.E.R.D. is releasing a song at all, I'm kind of surprised Rihanna is straight up rapping here, wouldn't be surprised if she has a few rap songs on her next album considering she rapped on LOYALTY by Kendrick Lamar and Hip Hop is becoming much more popular, especially this year.

Overall though, I'm pretty indifferent towards the song, but it seemed like a noteworthy release.

I really like that song. It's really good.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 11/01/17 at 8:03 pm

This may have already been posted, but this one just came out in my area and I really like it.  It's also quite relevant to the topics we discuss on this board.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Rainbowz on 11/01/17 at 9:03 pm

I found this new hip-hop song that I like
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It kind of sounds a bit like a 90s song IMO

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 11/01/17 at 9:27 pm


This may have already been posted, but this one just came out in my area and I really like it.  It's also quite relevant to the topics we discuss on this board.

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Oh, I've heard my dad play this on Spotify. I thought it sounded really generic and boring initially, it has grown on me though, I kind of like it now. I think it's interesting where Kesha is deciding to take her career too with the more serious, slower songs.



I found this new hip-hop song that I like
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It kind of sounds a bit like a 90s song IMO


Never heard this before, I like Casanova's parts on the song. The beat sounds very similar to Wild Thoughts, does anyone else hear that?

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 11/01/17 at 9:57 pm


Oh, I've heard my dad play this on Spotify. I thought it sounded really generic and boring initially, it has grown on me though, I kind of like it now. I think it's interesting where Kesha is deciding to take her career too with the more serious, slower songs.


Yeah she's kind of doing the same thing Gaga did, but I think Kesha is doing a better job at it.  The songs are meaningful without the pretentiousness that has plagued Gaga's recent albums.


Never heard this before, I like Casanova's parts on the song. The beat sounds very similar to Wild Thoughts, does anyone else hear that?


I really like this song.  It's good to see Chris Brown coming back, though with a different sound than he was previously known for.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 11/04/17 at 6:50 pm

Not sure if this has been posting yet.  Really liking this song.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 11/04/17 at 9:56 pm

I really like this song.  Alan Walker is huge in EDM circles right now but hasn't broken into mainstream.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: 1999 Baby, 2000s Kid on 11/05/17 at 4:04 pm


Not sure if this has been posting yet.  Really liking this song.

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Never been a fan of G-Eazy, but I really like this song too, I think it's the best I've heard from Cardi B as well.



I really like this song.  Alan Walker is huge in EDM circles right now but hasn't broken into mainstream.

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Alan Walker is huge pretty much everywhere besides US, he has had one hit (Faded) in the US though, it was certified Platinum. :)

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 11/05/17 at 4:06 pm


Alan Walker is huge pretty much everywhere besides US, he has had one hit (Faded) in the US though, it was certified Platinum. :)

Yeah Alan Walker is pretty big here in Canada too. Not necessarily on Virgin Radio but very popular and known by many people.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 11/06/17 at 5:20 pm


Alan Walker is huge pretty much everywhere besides US, he has had one hit (Faded) in the US though, it was certified Platinum. :)


For whatever reason, dance music has always struggled in the US compared with other countries, with the exception of the electropop era and groups like the Chainsmokers in the mid '10s.  I think we could be entering another golden age for electronic music and its a shame that it's not quite breaking into the mainstream in the US.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 11/06/17 at 5:40 pm


For whatever reason, dance music has always struggled in the US compared with other countries, with the exception of the electropop era and groups like the Chainsmokers in the mid '10s.  I think we could be entering another golden age for electronic music and its a shame that it's not quite breaking into the mainstream in the US.

Chainsmokers only had one hit in the mid 2010s... It was not even at number one and more of a meme than a hit. Chainsmokers got really popular in 2016, the start of the late 2010s.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 11/06/17 at 5:51 pm


Chainsmokers only had one hit in the mid 2010s... It was not even at number one and more of a meme than a hit. Chainsmokers got really popular in 2016, the start of the late 2010s.


What about "Roses" in 2015?  Also, what about "Habits (Stay High)" in 2014?  Also, even with your insistence that the late 2010s began in fall 2016, "Don't Let Me Down" was popular earlier in the year.  "Closer" was even released in July 2016.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 11/06/17 at 5:56 pm


What about "Roses" in 2015?  Also, what about "Habits (Stay High)" in 2014?  Also, even with your insistence that the late 2010s began in fall 2016, "Don't Let Me Down" was popular earlier in the year.  "Closer" was even released in July 2016.

Habits isn't a Chainsmoker song... nor is it a dance song. Roses came out on the charts in early 2016, it reached the top 40 in January 2016. And I don't think the cultural late 2010s started in fall 2016... I never once said that. The numeric late 2010s started in fall 2016 and that is basic math you can't refute. I think the cultural late 2010s started in early 2016 when the Chainsmokers started getting really big and Dancehall and Justin Bieber's new style of EDM started getting big. Or at least the transition to the late 2010s started around early 2016.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 11/06/17 at 6:04 pm


Habits isn't a Chainsmoker song... nor is it a dance song. Roses came out on the charts in early 2016, it reached the top 40 in January 2016. And I don't think the cultural late 2010s started in fall 2016... I never once said that. The numeric late 2010s started in fall 2016 and that is basic math you can't refute. I think the cultural late 2010s started in early 2016 when the Chainsmokers started getting really big and Dancehall and Justin Bieber's new style of EDM started getting big. Or at least the transition to the late 2010s started around early 2016.


I don't know...to me the Chainsmokers have a very mid '10s sound.  EDM-pop artists like Zedd, Alesso, Avicii, Mike Posner, and a lot of the teen pop like Ariana Grande and Cher Lloyd had a similar sound during that era.

Dancehall in late 2016 was the first departure from the status quo that was set up in 2013.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 11/06/17 at 6:11 pm


I don't know...to me the Chainsmokers have a very mid '10s sound.  EDM-pop artists like Zedd, Alesso, Avicii, Mike Posner, and a lot of the teen pop like Ariana Grande and Cher Lloyd had a similar sound during that era.

Dancehall in late 2016 was the first departure from the status quo that was set up in 2013.

Why are you saying dancehall started in late 2016 when it started in late 2015 with Justin Bieber's new album?  ??? One Dance, Sorry, Cheap Thrills, Work are all dancehall songs and they came out in early 2016. Most of the dancehall hits came out late 2015/early 2016, very few of them came out late 2016 for dancehall genre.  And that genre was a 2016 fad, there was no more once 2017 came around.

As for the Chainsmokers, to me it sounds very late 2010s (or whatever the era of 2016+ is) Mid 2010s to me had some EDM but not as much as late 2010s and it was slightly different. The mid 2010s were more about ballads, pop hits, and retro sounding songs, some of this is part of the general core 2010s as well. The late 2010s is about that distinct EDM electronic sound in songs with the screwy vocal effects. It seems like there is more diversity in terms of musical genre in the late 2010s too (dancehall, latin pop, trap rap, EDM pop, etc.)

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 11/06/17 at 6:39 pm


Why are you saying dancehall started in late 2016 when it started in late 2015 with Justin Bieber's new album?  ??? One Dance, Sorry, Cheap Thrills, Work are all dancehall songs and they came out in early 2016. Most of the dancehall hits came out late 2015/early 2016, very few of them came out late 2016 for dancehall genre.  And that genre was a 2016 fad, there was no more once 2017 came around.


I agree that dancehall was a short-lived fad that was mostly a 2016 thing.  I'm sorry though, I don't really think of Justin Bieber when I think of Dancehall.  I think of the other songs you mentioned though.  Cheap Thrills didn't come out in my area until very late 2016 (my small town radio station is more of a hot AC and sometimes doesn't get songs until 6-9 months after they are popular).


As for the Chainsmokers, to me it sounds very late 2010s (or whatever the era of 2016+ is) Mid 2010s to me had some EDM but not as much as late 2010s and it was slightly different. The mid 2010s were more about ballads, pop hits, and retro sounding songs, some of this is part of the general core 2010s as well. The late 2010s is about that distinct EDM electronic sound in songs with the screwy vocal effects. It seems like there is more diversity in terms of musical genre in the late 2010s too (dancehall, latin pop, trap rap, EDM pop, etc.)


You contradict yourself more than anybody else on this board.  You've said in other threads that dance music is pretty much non-existent in 2017 and that there is hardly any variety out there right now (which is absolutely not the case).

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Brian06 on 11/06/17 at 6:45 pm


Chainsmokers only had one hit in the mid 2010s... It was not even at number one and more of a meme than a hit. Chainsmokers got really popular in 2016, the start of the late 2010s.


Personally I'd say The Chainsmokers have been popular a few years now. We're barely out of the mid '10s so who knows if they're more mid '10s or late '10s? Maybe they're both, but they were big in the mid '10s too.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 11/06/17 at 7:22 pm


I agree that dancehall was a short-lived fad that was mostly a 2016 thing.  I'm sorry though, I don't really think of Justin Bieber when I think of Dancehall.  I think of the other songs you mentioned though.  Cheap Thrills didn't come out in my area until very late 2016 (my small town radio station is more of a hot AC and sometimes doesn't get songs until 6-9 months after they are popular).

You contradict yourself more than anybody else on this board.  You've said in other threads that dance music is pretty much non-existent in 2017 and that there is hardly any variety out there right now (which is absolutely not the case).

Justin Bieber's song Sorry was the first popular dancehall song... Dancehall does not mean dance music, it is a completely different genre. Look it up if you don't know. Justin Bieber's Sorry is the definition if dancehall and it's what made it popular...

Where have I contradicted myself? I said music is not upbeat in 2017 and it isn't... Where is the contradiction? Dancehall IS NOT upbeat and it IS NOT dance music. Like I said, look it up if you don't know what dancehall is. I didn't contradict myself at all. I never said there was no variety... Now that I know for sure I never said. I said music sucks this year and all the music put out is garbage, not that there isn't variety in 2017. I have no idea what you are talking about. Why are you talking about dance music? Dance music hasn't been popular since the early 2010s.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 11/06/17 at 7:23 pm


Personally I'd say The Chainsmokers have been popular a few years now. We're barely out of the mid '10s so who knows if they're more mid '10s or late '10s? Maybe they're both, but they were big in the mid '10s too.

They have only been popular in 2016 and 2017. They had a short stint in 2014. They were not in the spotlight at all in 2015 and only had one hit in 2014.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Brian06 on 11/06/17 at 7:28 pm


They have only been popular in 2016 and 2017. They had a short stint in 2014. They were not in the spotlight at all in 2015 and only had one hit in 2014.


Well a large part of 2016 is still mid '10s and they had that hit 2014. I'd still say a bit of both mid '10s and late '10s at this point, depends on how big they are in 2018 and 2019 too. If they stay big in 2018 and '19, you could actually say they're more late '10s. On the other hand let's say their popularity dies off after this year. That means they were big from 2014-2017...that puts them more in the mid '10s spectrum overall in my eyes.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Longaotian00 on 11/06/17 at 7:57 pm


They have only been popular in 2016 and 2017. They had a short stint in 2014. They were not in the spotlight at all in 2015 and only had one hit in 2014.


They were pretty big in late 2015, actually.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheDude1999 on 11/14/17 at 3:56 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaJCFHXcWmM

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Philip Eno on 11/14/17 at 3:57 pm


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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheDude1999 on 11/14/17 at 3:58 pm


Fixed!


Thank you! I was really having trouble embedding that YouTube link!  ;D

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Philip Eno on 11/14/17 at 4:00 pm


Thank you! I was really having trouble embedding that YouTube link!  ;D
Please note the part of the URL used in the link, etc.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 11/22/17 at 9:54 am

I have taken down my "Trump era" Spotify playlist - temporarily, don't worry - because I realized I may have jumped the gun a bit. In other words, I have almost as many songs for just 2017 as in my entire "Peak 2000s" playlist covering four years. I figured I should wait till the Grammys to deduce which are the true big hits of this year and narrow it down to about 30 or so songs. Basically I don't have the advantage of hindsight yet as to this playlist as with the other ones, to know which songs, artists and genres will stand out as truly significant.

I will post the list here so if people want to add or delete a song or two from the list, they are free to do so. I hope that this playlist, like my other ones, become a way to not only enjoy nostalgia for different cultural periods but as a source of reference for our discussions here.

Thanks all!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 11/22/17 at 12:19 pm


I have taken down my "Trump era" Spotify playlist - temporarily, don't worry - because I realized I may have jumped the gun a bit. In other words, I have almost as many songs for just 2017 as in my entire "Peak 2000s" playlist covering four years. I figured I should wait till the Grammys to deduce which are the true big hits of this year and narrow it down to about 30 or so songs. Basically I don't have the advantage of hindsight yet as to this playlist as with the other ones, to know which songs, artists and genres will stand out as truly significant.

I will post the list here so if people want to add or delete a song or two from the list, they are free to do so. I hope that this playlist, like my other ones, become a way to not only enjoy nostalgia for different cultural periods but as a source of reference for our discussions here.

Thanks all!


My 2017 playlist is much larger as well.  My 2016 playlist, on the other hand, was the smallest since 1999.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 11/22/17 at 2:16 pm

That's just it though: how many of those will we look back on as big, impactful hits? I doubt it will exceed 100 for a single year, that would have to be a phenomenally creative year in music the likes of which we haven't seen since the early '70s.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 11/22/17 at 4:39 pm


That's just it though: how many of those will we look back on as big, impactful hits? I doubt it will exceed 100 for a single year, that would have to be a phenomenally creative year in music the likes of which we haven't seen since the early '70s.


Err...I would say 2009 is up there.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 11/22/17 at 8:22 pm

I just saw Pink's new video, and the video itself has an early 2010s vibe in terms of aesthetics and bright colours (I know it's supposed to be a 1950s thing in the video). But it looks like it's a music video straight out of 2011.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 11/27/17 at 7:01 pm

Nobody's updating this anymore, huh?

I found this today:

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And then...there's this:

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It's probably the most confounding and shocking thing I've seen all year. TDH is a thoroughly indie, hipster-y band coming out with a video like this. That's one hell of a gear change.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 12/01/17 at 8:29 pm

New song that kind of has a 2008ish sound to it.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 12/01/17 at 8:39 pm


New song that kind of has a 2008ish sound to it.

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Wow. This song is actually decent. I'm generally not a fan of K-Pop & K-Rap but this song is definitely good.

Anyways, I don't think that it sounds like it's from 2008 (or 2008ish). It sounds no different than many fusion rap & pop songs of the past 5 years.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Rainbowz on 12/01/17 at 8:39 pm


Wow. This song is actually decent. I'm generally not a fan of K-Pop & K-Rap but this song is definitely good.

Anyways, I don't think that it sounds like it's from 2008 (or 2008ish). It sounds no different than many fusion rap & pop songs of the past 5 years.

I agree.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 12/01/17 at 9:19 pm


Anyways, I don't think that it sounds like it's from 2008 (or 2008ish). It sounds no different than many fusion rap & pop songs of the past 5 years.


I guess.  When I first heard it, it reminded me somewhat of this song from 2008.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKv7dDFpCbk

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: unicornic on 12/09/17 at 8:20 am

This has an early 2000s feel to it
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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Rainbowz on 12/09/17 at 8:33 am


This has an early 2000s feel to it
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Damn this is really catchy

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: unicornic on 12/09/17 at 10:29 am


Damn this is really catchy

I know. I love them.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 12/11/17 at 8:41 am

Has GIRLI gained any traction in the States or is she more of a UK phenomenon? I mean, I can tell you that's not what our early 2000s sounded like.

In other news, I did some significant trimming to the 'Age of Trump' playlist, so hopefully I have narrowed it down to actually the biggest hits of this year. I would like for us to be able to look back in a few years from now and be able to say that it accurately tracks the music trends that would become defining for the coming decade, because I do feel like there's been a major shift this year due to Trump.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Rainbowz on 12/11/17 at 10:08 am


Has GIRLI gained any traction in the States or is she more of a UK phenomenon? I mean, I can tell you that's not what our early 2000s sounded like.

In other news, I did some significant trimming to the 'Age of Trump' playlist, so hopefully I have narrowed it down to actually the biggest hits of this year. I would like for us to be able to look back in a few years from now and be able to say that it accurately tracks the music trends that would become defining for the coming decade, because I do feel like there's been a major shift this year due to Trump.

Well I’m from and live in the United States and I haven’t heard of her until she mentioned it

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 12/11/17 at 10:28 am


Has GIRLI gained any traction in the States or is she more of a UK phenomenon? I mean, I can tell you that's not what our early 2000s sounded like.

Yeah, GIRLI is definitely a UK phenomenon. I'm American and I've never heard about GIRLI before.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: LooseBolt on 12/13/17 at 3:35 pm

Who ever saw these guys being in the mainstream charts again?

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Suddenly it's like we're in 2003 again!

And I still can't get over that video I posted earlier by The Dear Hunter. I don't know if people here know them or not, but they're basically like the epitome of hipster music, and yet they came out with this campy '80s-style video. So bizarre!

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Rainbowz on 12/16/17 at 8:18 pm

This new song just came out
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It's catchy

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: bchris02 on 12/16/17 at 8:42 pm

Believe it or not, my local station KISR 93 is playing this song (they typically don't play stuff like this).  I'm really liking it.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 12/16/17 at 10:42 pm


This new song just came out
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It's catchy

I like it. They made a song about police brutality catchy.

I also like that the beat of the song is a mix of Bossa Nova & Funk.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 12/16/17 at 10:43 pm


Believe it or not, my local station KISR 93 is playing this song (they typically don't play stuff like this).  I'm really liking it.

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Yeah, that is not bad at all. Catchy.

Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Slim95 on 12/17/17 at 3:12 am

Prozzak, a classic Canadian group from the 1990s has come back this year with an album called "Forever 1999". I just realized they released this song this year.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Philip Eno on 12/29/17 at 2:53 am

"Perfect" is a song by English singer-songwriter Ed Sheeran from his third studio album, ÷ (2017). After the album's release it charted at number four on the UK Singles Chart, also became the UK Christmas number-one song for 2017.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Philip Eno on 12/29/17 at 2:59 am


"Perfect" is a song by English singer-songwriter Ed Sheeran from his third studio album, ÷ (2017). After the album's release it charted at number four on the UK Singles Chart, also became the UK Christmas number-one song for 2017.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vv-BfVoq4g

A duet of the same song with Italian tenor Andrea Bocelli, titled "Perfect Symphony", was released on 15 December 2017.

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Subject: Re: 2017: The Year In Music

Written By: Philip Eno on 09/11/18 at 9:13 am

"Remember Me" is a song from the 2017 animated Pixar film Coco, written by Robert Lopez and Kristen Anderson-Lopez. The song is performed variously within the film by Benjamin Bratt, Gael García Bernal, Anthony Gonzalez, and Ana Ofelia Murguía. Miguel and Natalia Lafourcade perform a pop version of the song that is featured in the film's end credits. Carlos Rivera recorded a cover version of the song, titled "Recuérdame" for the film's Spanish-language soundtrack album. It won Best Original Song at the 90th Academy Awards in 2018.

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