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Subject: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: ofkx on 02/14/18 at 7:10 am

I've seen Vaporwave popping up more in sites like Reddit and Tumblr lately . Could it be the new 2020s thing? If you don't know what Vaporwave is, Wikipedia defines it as "A microgenre of electronic music and an Internet meme that emerged in the early 2010s. The music appropriates 1980s and 1990s styles of mood music such as smooth jazz, elevator music, R&B, and lounge music, typically sampling or manipulating tracks via chopped and screwed techniques and other effects."
https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/005/289/791/large/sebastian-sanabria-vaporwave.jpg?1489963818
https://nextshark-vxdsockgvw3ki.stackpathdns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Vaporwave-Edit-Photography-768x408.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GW6sLrK40k

Looking at Google Trends, it looks like it's really starting to pick up steam
https://image.ibb.co/d8zvy7/Screen_Shot_2018_02_14_at_3_28_28_PM.png

the aesthetic and the sound is starting to seep into mainstream music too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQbjS0_ZfJ0

(aesthetic)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH4E_t3m3xM

Thoughts?

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: SailorSteven2017 on 02/14/18 at 9:18 am


I've seen Vaporwave popping up more in sites like Reddit and Tumblr lately . Could it be the new 2020s thing? If you don't know what Vaporwave is, Wikipedia defines it as "A microgenre of electronic music and an Internet meme that emerged in the early 2010s. The music appropriates 1980s and 1990s styles of mood music such as smooth jazz, elevator music, R&B, and lounge music, typically sampling or manipulating tracks via chopped and screwed techniques and other effects."
https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/005/289/791/large/sebastian-sanabria-vaporwave.jpg?1489963818
https://nextshark-vxdsockgvw3ki.stackpathdns.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Vaporwave-Edit-Photography-768x408.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GW6sLrK40k

Looking at Google Trends, it looks like it's really starting to pick up steam
https://image.ibb.co/d8zvy7/Screen_Shot_2018_02_14_at_3_28_28_PM.png

the aesthetic and the sound is starting to seep into mainstream music too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQbjS0_ZfJ0

(aesthetic)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH4E_t3m3xM

Thoughts?


OMG!! Thank you for finding this! If this is the new 2020s sound then I'm gonna LOVE the next decade to pieces! X3 2018 is already showing some sort of transition by what you're showing us! The Late 2010s and hopefully early 2020s are gonna rule with this type of music! Thank you ofkx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

P.S. LOOKS LIKE NEON FUTURISTIC CULTURE IS MAKING A COMEBACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SailorSteven2017  :D

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/14/18 at 1:12 pm

I wouldn't mind if Future Funk were to influence '20's pop sound.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: LooseBolt on 02/14/18 at 2:17 pm


I wouldn't mind if Future Funk were to influence '20's pop sound.


Yeah, I would prefer this by far. Vaporwave is too cynical, depressing, and just damn weird for me.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/14/18 at 2:36 pm


Yeah, I would prefer this by far. Vaporwave is too cynical, depressing, and just damn weird for me.


Probably since Vaporwave was tied to an anti-capitalist message (I'm not how much of this is true in 2018, but in the early 2010s this is true) while Future Funk has a more upbeat pop tone to it.
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Don't mind the weird imagery in the vids. Future Funk is a subgenre of Vaporwave meaning it inherited it's aesthetic choices. I wouldn't mind if things like Future Funk influenced 2020s Pop music. Will end up giving us more upbeat dance pop again instead of the kind of slow pop we got now (not all of modern pop is slow, but it seems to be the dominant style) and will make music fun again.

Nowadays my tastes in music is largely defined by what I enjoy on the internet such as Vaporwave, Future Funk, Lofi Hip Hop, House, and Electro Swing. You don't hear these on the Top 40 radio, but online they're popular.
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This is the kind of stuff I listen to now. Whether or not they'll still be popular by the early 2020s is yet to be seen. Although I will be very upset when they die out. They're my best example of good modern music. They all get old sounds and make 'em sound new. If Future Funk, Electro Swing, and Lofi Hip Hop were able to influence early '20s pop sound then I'll be happy.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/14/18 at 2:55 pm

Coincidentally, my crystal Pepsi shirt was just shipped today.

https://www.publicspace.xyz/products/crystal-pepsi-t-shirt-limited-edition-1-of-50

I'm switching my bland style for Vaporwave inspired fashion...but I'm easing into it. lol

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/14/18 at 3:04 pm

Vaporwave is definitely slowly, but surely taking over the internet. A lot of youtubers use vaporwave music or reference vaporwave.



Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/14/18 at 3:24 pm


Coincidentally, my crystal Pepsi shirt was just shipped today.

https://www.publicspace.xyz/products/crystal-pepsi-t-shirt-limited-edition-1-of-50

I'm switching my bland style for Vaporwave inspired fashion...but I'm easing into it. lol


I may push for a more Vaporwave inspired style as well. Although I may mix Vaporwave with a bit of Punky fashion just to see what weird result I can get that still looks good.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/57/70/81/577081b852b741d90d57e8edd3619116--vaporwave-clothing-vaporwave-fashion.jpg

Gotta love that aesthetic.


Vaporwave is definitely slowly, but surely taking over the internet. A lot of youtubers use vaporwave music or reference vaporwave.


Vaporwave certainly is taking over internet culture. If this keeps up it'll soon start taking over parts of pop culture as well. And thus the 2020's pop cultural aesthetic was born.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: LooseBolt on 02/14/18 at 3:35 pm


Probably since Vaporwave was tied to an anti-capitalist message (I'm not how much of this is true in 2018, but in the early 2010s this is true) while Future Funk has a more upbeat pop tone to it.
zhDK8ZPeqwonO2d253rkO8
FjbzeFfF-Cosbb_ZjLVB4c

Don't mind the weird imagery in the vids. Future Funk is a subgenre of Vaporwave meaning it inherited it's aesthetic choices. I wouldn't mind if things like Future Funk influenced 2020s Pop music. Will end up giving us more upbeat dance pop again instead of the kind of slow pop we got now (not all of modern pop is slow, but it seems to be the dominant style) and will make music fun again.

Nowadays my tastes in music is largely defined by what I enjoy on the internet such as Vaporwave, Future Funk, Lofi Hip Hop, House, and Electro Swing. You don't hear these on the Top 40 radio, but online they're popular.
Ygo5VcMGMCsDPd2OE4fqzs
lGN3I0axgKk

This is the kind of stuff I listen to now. Whether or not they'll still be popular by the early 2020s is yet to be seen. Although I will be very upset when they die out. They're my best example of good modern music. They all get old sounds and make 'em sound new. If Future Funk, Electro Swing, and Lofi Hip Hop were able to influence early '20s pop sound then I'll be happy.


Aha, so I was right!!

I published this a couple weeks ago and the Future Funk subreddit said I didn’t understand the origins of their subgenre at all. But going by what you’re saying, I wasn’t actually far off!

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: bchris02 on 02/14/18 at 3:35 pm

Err...I think it's too early to tell.  Remember...indietronica i.e. Owl City was supposed to be the sound of the 2010s.  In reality, it only lasted barely into the decade.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: bchris02 on 02/14/18 at 3:36 pm

Also, I would hugely bet against electro swing becoming a mainstream genre. 

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: ofkx on 02/14/18 at 3:46 pm

This is currently the top song on Spotify’s “Today’s top hits” playlist. It’s sounds vaporwave-y, and the video’s obviously influenced by vaporwave, complete with the purple-blue color combination and the distortions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc71AmT_b2k

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/14/18 at 4:01 pm


Aha, so I was right!!

I published this a couple weeks ago and the Future Funk subreddit said I didn’t understand the origins of their subgenre at all. But going by what you’re saying, I wasn’t actually far off!


Didn't understand the origins of the genre? Sounds like some elistest reddit users. The link you posted is alright as it gives insight and user opinion on the genre. And I have seen blogs and video posts where people do mention that Vaporwave has a chance of actually becoming the next mainstream thing you'd hear on the radio. All it needs is just for some hit artist to come in and release an album or hit single onto the radio. The key to making a new hit genre is usually just to take whatever was popular and just give it a new twist which. Future Funk is feeding off of the EDM scene, but bringsthe funk/pop sound sound to the Vaporwave/EDM scene.

Also that link does a good shot at separating Future funk and French House. People say they're the same thing, but ignore the key differences. Well French house is literally house using old disco/funk samples. Future Funk is just Vaporwave that is using funk/disco samples, but sped up and not slowed down. French house focuses on rhythm and gives off a more house vibe while Future funk is focuses on melody and gives off a more funky pop vibe. Well at least this is how I use them anyways.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/14/18 at 4:04 pm


I may push for a more Vaporwave inspired style as well. Although I may mix Vaporwave with a bit of Punky fashion just to see what weird result I can get that still looks good.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/57/70/81/577081b852b741d90d57e8edd3619116--vaporwave-clothing-vaporwave-fashion.jpg

Gotta love that aesthetic.

Vaporwave certainly is taking over internet culture. If this keeps up it'll soon start taking over parts of pop culture as well. And thus the 2020's pop cultural aesthetic was born.


OOOOOOOOOO WHERE CAN I FIND THAT SHIRT?!

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/14/18 at 4:20 pm


OOOOOOOOOO WHERE CAN I FIND THAT SHIRT?!


I literally spent 10 minutes trying to see where I can find that shirt for you to buy.
Here ya go.
https://shirtz.cool/collections/frontpage/products/the-technology-tee?variant=36456708170

The technology tee.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: piecesof93 on 02/14/18 at 4:22 pm

Man I would love for future funk to be the music of the 2020s. I really hope it does and I in would be really cool if it adopted the aesthetic of vaporwave.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/14/18 at 4:32 pm


Man I would love for future funk to be the music of the 2020s. I really hope it does and I in would be really cool if it adopted the aesthetic of vaporwave.


I don't have much interest in the current electronic dance music scene, but I do love Vaporwave/Future Funk. The genre has been taking over the internet, but it's funny how the genre originally was just an internet meme. Now the genre has transcended far above that the point where if you go to the Vaporwave or Future funk subreddits you literally have a ton of songs releasing every day.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/14/18 at 4:38 pm

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If Bruno Mars was to ever make a Future Funk track or at least make a Future Funk remix of  one of his songs.

Also I find this a bit interesting.
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Here is an originals song

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Here is a future funk version of it.

I honestly want Future Funk to become part of pop music since it feels like mainstream music isn't funky any.more. Hip hop certainly isn't funky anymore. Things like Nu-disco isn't as funky as old-disco. House is too busy being electro house and progressive house to be funky. Modern pop and R&B are too slow to give off that funky rhythm. In the modern age the closet you can get to modern funk is Future funk now.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/14/18 at 4:54 pm


I literally spent 10 minutes trying to see where I can find that shirt for you to buy.
Here ya go.
https://shirtz.cool/collections/frontpage/products/the-technology-tee?variant=36456708170

The technology tee.


Dude...you are beautiful. I'm so happy. :\'(

(fast forward to checkout)

Do I really want to pay that shipping price tho? lol

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Dundee on 02/14/18 at 4:55 pm

I would love to see the Seapunk do to a big breakthrough in the mainstream somewhere in the future.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/011/717/tumblr_mdgcxliTSe1rvy25go1_500.jpg
It has of course a bit of 80s influence, but the watery, oceanic feel give it's own charm.

A shame the aesthetic has been put to rot since close to a decade now.
More examples:
https://img00.deviantart.net/f9b6/i/2013/085/4/5/seapunk_collage_by_ianibiza-d5zc53l.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7f/c2/6d/7fc26d777d05b615567d276f340b876c.jpg
Even the seapunk fashion is cool, appealing and 2000s emo-ish
https://soundcloudcats.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/seapunk2.jpg

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/14/18 at 5:07 pm


I would love to see the Seapunk do to a big breakthrough in the mainstream somewhere in the future.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/011/717/tumblr_mdgcxliTSe1rvy25go1_500.jpg
It has of course a bit of 80s influence, but the watery, oceanic feel give it's own charm.

A shame the aesthetic has been put to rot since close to a decade now.
More examples:
https://img00.deviantart.net/f9b6/i/2013/085/4/5/seapunk_collage_by_ianibiza-d5zc53l.jpg
https://img00.deviantart.net/f9b6/i/2013/085/4/5/seapunk_collage_by_ianibiza-d5zc53l.jpg
Even the seapunk fashion is cool, appealing and 2000s emo-ish
https://soundcloudcats.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/seapunk2.jpg


Seapunk developed along side Vaporwave. I'm not entirely sure why it died so fast. Some say it's when the genre was dabbled into by mainstream artists, but I honestly couldn't tell ya. It's like a cross between 2000s emo punk and early '10s vaporwave.

Dude...you are beautiful. I'm so happy. :\'(

(fast forward to checkout)

Do I really want to pay that shipping price tho? lol


Woa'oh sh!t that shipping price came outta no where. You can probably just hold off on the shirt now and save up some money to get it. That's what I'm going to do.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: ofkx on 02/14/18 at 5:09 pm

Not sure if this fits but it sounds like vaporwave:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox7RsX1Ee34

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: piecesof93 on 02/14/18 at 5:16 pm


I honestly want Future Funk to become part of pop music since it feels like mainstream music isn't funky any.more. Hip hop certainly isn't funky anymore. Things like Nu-disco isn't as funky as old-disco. House is too busy being electro house and progressive house to be funky. Modern pop and R&B are too slow to give off that funky rhythm. In the modern age the closet you can get to modern funk is Future funk now.

I complete agree with you. I've been saying that R&B and Pop is too slow right now. It would be nice to have songs that makes you want to get up and dance. Give me some future funk and the bright astetic of the early 2010s and I'm happy! I'm getting a little excited but should probably stop lol. It's probably wishful thinking. However, I think all we need is one person to in the mainstream to start a future funk trend. That way other artists would hop on and we could get a movement going. It worked for trap, edm and everything else.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: LooseBolt on 02/14/18 at 5:44 pm

Be prepared to wait. From the birth of punk at the CBGB to mainstream recognition took close to 20 years. Same with alternative and even Emo.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: LooseBolt on 02/14/18 at 7:04 pm


I would love to see the Seapunk do to a big breakthrough in the mainstream somewhere in the future.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/011/717/tumblr_mdgcxliTSe1rvy25go1_500.jpg
It has of course a bit of 80s influence, but the watery, oceanic feel give it's own charm.

A shame the aesthetic has been put to rot since close to a decade now.
More examples:
https://img00.deviantart.net/f9b6/i/2013/085/4/5/seapunk_collage_by_ianibiza-d5zc53l.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7f/c2/6d/7fc26d777d05b615567d276f340b876c.jpg
Even the seapunk fashion is cool, appealing and 2000s emo-ish
https://soundcloudcats.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/seapunk2.jpg


Hey, would you do us all a favor and start posting some seapunk music? Because I'll be honest, I'm trying to research it on YouTube and I'm having a really difficult time telling whether what I've found is legit.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Dundee on 02/14/18 at 7:15 pm


Hey, would you do us all a favor and start posting some seapunk music? Because I'll be honest, I'm trying to research it on YouTube and I'm having a really difficult time telling whether what I've founbd is legit.
Seapunk is not a music genre, it's an aesthetic. A lot of Vaporwave videos used it for instance and the two generally go hand-in-hand (well atleast in the beginnings of Vaporwave, the genre diverged in many different forms since).

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: SailorSteven2017 on 02/14/18 at 8:37 pm

In response to this thread, I'm going on a mission. That mission is to desperately pray for Vaporwave to be the new aesthetic and for Future Funk to become the new sound. We'll need many people, so spread the word!


SailorSteven2017

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: duenas8 on 02/14/18 at 10:36 pm

Totally not, I’ve listened Vaporwave for a couple of years and it won’t last for no more than 5 years. On the other hand, Vaporwave is really important into Internet culture bc it’s the first music genre and artistic movement which started as meme and became so successful, actually Macintosh Plus 420 is a classic piece on YouTube

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Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/15/18 at 2:01 pm


Totally not, I’ve listened Vaporwave for a couple of years and it won’t last for no more than 5 years. On the other hand, Vaporwave is really important into Internet culture bc it’s the first music genre and artistic movement which started as meme and became so successful, actually Macintosh Plus 420 is a classic piece on YouTube

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Well I won't be so sure. I can't determine when a genre dies, but people have been calling Vaporave as "dead" for a couple of years now yet it's still a popular music genre on the internet. But we'll see. Either people get sick of Vaporwave or some new internet genre emerges. Although from what I've seen popular internet genres like Lofi Hip Hop tend to just coexist with things like Vaporwave. But we'll see by the early '20s.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/15/18 at 4:46 pm

Wouldn't surprise me considering the new age movement is getting bigger and bigger. Any genre with a hypnotic and existentialist sound is likely to be popular soon. I can see the '20s being like a futuristic version of the '60s with super hippy (not hipster) and dream-like aesthetics. It will be like the decade for stoners.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/16/18 at 1:37 am


Wouldn't surprise me considering the new age movement is getting bigger and bigger. Any genre with a hypnotic and existentialist sound is likely to be popular soon. I can see the '20s being like a futuristic version of the '60s with super hippy (not hipster) and dream-like aesthetics. It will be like the decade for stoners.


I can get behind that idea. All I ask is for the '20s to have more optimism in its pop culture. Interest as Vaporwave was seen to give off the 80s vibe, but Vaporwave is actually a derivative of New Age music in terms of its sound which brings the Vaporwave connect all the way back to the 1960s. May have pop music with some new age elements with its artistic drive, relaxing tones, and optimistic feel.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/16/18 at 1:42 am

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This album was released a few days ago.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: LooseBolt on 02/16/18 at 5:07 am


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This album was released a few days ago.


It's not showing up.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/16/18 at 1:51 pm


It's not showing up.

that's weird it's showing up for me on the PC and on mobile.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: piecesof93 on 02/16/18 at 2:03 pm

It's shows up for me too.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: LooseBolt on 02/16/18 at 3:17 pm

Yeah, I shortly after realized nobody’s YouTube embeds were working for me here. Derp.

Anyway, on the subject of neon futurism: https://thenerdymillennialblog.wordpress.com/2018/02/16/altered-carbon/

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: SailorSteven2017 on 02/16/18 at 3:54 pm


Ef6VBCq9HWo
This album was released a few days ago.


SAILOR MOON BACKGROUND  :D

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/16/18 at 5:17 pm


Yeah, I shortly after realized nobody’s YouTube embeds were working for me here. Derp.

Anyway, on the subject of neon futurism: https://thenerdymillennialblog.wordpress.com/2018/02/16/altered-carbon/


I own the book of Altered Carbon. I liked reading Cyberpunk stories (even if they are a bit weird and hard to follow sometimes).

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: LooseBolt on 02/16/18 at 5:28 pm


I own the book of Altered Carbon. I liked reading Cyberpunk stories (even if they are a bit weird and hard to follow sometimes).


Oh man, amen to that. I think I've tried to finish Neuromancer like three times. I still haven't.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/16/18 at 5:51 pm


Oh man, amen to that. I think I've tried to finish Neuromancer like three times. I still haven't.


I'd read through Neuromancer and I still have to look online for what is supposed to be going on. This is why I think Cyberpunk movies are a little better as when it comes to books they range from somewhat hard to follow to not making sense/mind confusing. Add in the fact that when characters narrate they don't speak in a clear way. They tend to speak in expressions and in some rare cases 3rd person.

I'm still surprised Neuromancer doesn't have a movie yet. We got Blade Runner, Akira, Matrix, Altered Carbon etc yet not the movie adaptation of a book that is said to have started/popularized the Cyberpunk genre.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: LooseBolt on 02/16/18 at 6:04 pm

And even Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep isn't technically cyberpunk because at the time the genre hadn't been invented yet!

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/17/18 at 1:07 am


And even Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep isn't technically cyberpunk because at the time the genre hadn't been invented yet!


It's more like a precursor to Cyberpunk. To me Cyberpunk started sometime between 1982 to 1984 when Bladerunner introduced the visual look of Cyberpunk while Neuromancer introduced the storytelling and inner themes of Cyberpunk.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Shemp97 on 02/17/18 at 5:44 pm

This thread is the only time I've heard Vaporwave music since the beginning of this year.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Looney Toon on 02/19/18 at 12:43 am


This thread is the only time I've heard Vaporwave music since the beginning of this year.


You've been missing out on a ton of tracks that a bunch of dudes living in a basement have been making. I can see imagine myself living in an old attic doing nothing but making Vaporwave music 24/7.  8)

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 02/19/18 at 12:55 pm

I actually made a thread about this topic about a year ago:

http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=54729.0

Glad the tradition is still being kept alive ;D. Love ya kids!

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: mxcrashxm on 02/04/19 at 10:49 pm

Sorry to revive this thread, but this was an interesting topic to read and discuss the aesthetic of the upcoming decade. Now that a year has gone by, do you all think that Vaporwave is still leading the 2020s innovation in music and the elements or has something else took its spot?

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/04/19 at 11:22 pm


I actually made a thread about this topic about a year ago:

http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=54729.0

Glad the tradition is still being kept alive ;D. Love ya kids!


Vaporwave, the music seems to be on the decline, even amongst the adherents but the Vaporwave lighting is very popular right now.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Dundee on 02/05/19 at 4:57 am

Nah, Vaporwave's scene is almost a decade old now and interest is starting to decline. A lot of key artists have apparently moved out from the genre ???

I do agree that it has influenced 2010s' culture in many ways, but at this point I don't have high hopes on looking forward on this genre into the 2020s.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: LooseBolt on 02/05/19 at 8:04 am

I just want to remind you all that the death of vaporwave has been declared many, many times and still it seems to turn up again.

Which artists are moving on and what are they doing now?

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: mc98 on 02/05/19 at 8:18 am

Vaporwave is so 2010s, I doubt it'll be a thing in the 2020s.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Dundee on 02/05/19 at 8:39 am


Which artists are moving on and what are they doing now?

It's been a while since we've seen new stuff from Blank Banshee, Vaperror, Saint Pepsi or t e l e p a t h. Some of their members seemed to have moved on to make more typical Electronica projects.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: xenzue on 02/06/19 at 7:04 pm

Vaporwave has influenced a lot of the current late 2010s aesthetic, but that's about it. It's definitely staying in the 2010s, I really doubt it will carry on in the 2020s as most of it is based on nostalgia through the millennial perspective, by then Gen Z aesthetic will begin to surpass Millennial-driven trends/looks.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/06/19 at 7:38 pm

I think vaporwave style of music can be popular in the '20s but it would probably just be an offshoot of vaporwave and have its own sound not based on nostalgia. I hate that kind of music but I can see the whole stoner hypnotic music style being popular, vaporwave is like that and lo-fi is too kind of.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 02/07/19 at 7:11 am


Vaporwave, the music seems to be on the decline, even amongst the adherents but the Vaporwave lighting is very popular right now.


I agree. The rise of bi-lighting, 80s/90s/early 00s nostalgia, Japanese/anime-esque influences, & more 'shiny' aesthetics in many music videos, magazines, websites, album covers, etc. comes to mind. Those seem to be heavily influenced by Vaporwave/Future Funk.


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This music video is a perfect example.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: mc98 on 02/07/19 at 8:56 am

The music itself will be dead by 2020s but that doesn't mean that it's aesthetic and influence will be dead. Artists may incorporate the sound without the nostalgic purpose of the genre.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 02/07/19 at 6:41 pm

Also forgot to mention, the mainstream acceptance of Japanese/anime culture in general seems to have taken hold, suggesting that the aesthetics of Vaporwave are at their peak right now despite the genre of music itself starting to decline (although rather slowly I might add).


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I already posted about Ariana Grande's music video '7 Rings', but I also think with the imminent release of James Cameron's newest flick Alita: Battle Angel sort of reinforces this new era in pop culture

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/07/19 at 6:48 pm

I know some will probably disagree but I'm gonna go out and say I don't believe anything that's popular right now will be what defines the '20s. I don't feel we have entered '20s culture at all yet and I have a feeling the decade will start fairly late and not on time. I would say give it until at least 2021. It's not like 10 years ago where in 2009 we all knew and agreed we were in a new decade, or like 1999 when we knew we were in 2000s culture already. Next decade's culture will be defined a bit later I think. I think we still didn't reach peak late 2010s.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: LooseBolt on 02/07/19 at 8:06 pm


I agree. The rise of bi-lighting, 80s/90s/early 00s nostalgia, Japanese/anime-esque influences, & more 'shiny' aesthetics in many music videos, magazines, websites, album covers, etc. comes to mind. Those seem to be heavily influenced by Vaporwave/Future Funk.


Going off of that, I think exactly that is what ends up killing vaporwave and future funk: it becomes cool, which means it's no longer cool. Grunge and alternative was not as special and exciting once it went mainstream and posers imitated the look without adopting the ethos. The same is happening with vaporwave and soon enough with future funk: all the superficial aspects of the genres are being adopted without the nihilism and vaguely anti-capitalist cynicism that birthed the two genres.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/12/19 at 11:45 am


I know some will probably disagree but I'm gonna go out and say I don't believe anything that's popular right now will be what defines the '20s. I don't feel we have entered '20s culture at all yet and I have a feeling the decade will start fairly late and not on time. I would say give it until at least 2021. It's not like 10 years ago where in 2009 we all knew and agreed we were in a new decade, or like 1999 when we knew we were in 2000s culture already. Next decade's culture will be defined a bit later I think. I think we still didn't reach peak late 2010s.

This ALL THE WAY.

The 2010s decade has lasted a VERY long time culturally. its longevity is kinda like the 50s and 80s before it, if ya think about it really.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Slim95 on 02/12/19 at 12:10 pm


This ALL THE WAY.

The 2010s decade has lasted a VERY long time culturally. its longevity is kinda like the 50s and 80s before it, if ya think about it really.

Yeah I agree. I'm looking forward to leaving this decade behind.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/12/19 at 12:15 pm


Yeah I agree. I'm looking forward to leaving this decade behind.

yup the 90s and 00s were pretty short lived comapred to this era. Kinda sad when ya think about it. ;D :\'(

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: mc98 on 02/12/19 at 12:31 pm


yup the 90s and 00s were pretty short lived comapred to this era. Kinda sad when ya think about it. ;D :\'(


The 2010s is kinda like the 1980s and 1950s.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Zelek3 on 02/12/19 at 12:36 pm


yup the 90s and 00s were pretty short lived comapred to this era. Kinda sad when ya think about it. ;D :\'(

Eazy you're back! :)

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: LooseBolt on 02/12/19 at 2:28 pm


The 2010s is kinda like the 1980s and 1950s.


Really? I think of both of those decades as culturally rather short-lived as well. Most cultural and political historians actually say that the Sixties is the longest cultural period, stretching from as early as 1955 (beginning of the Civil Rights Movement) to all the way into 1974 with the resignation of Nixon.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Dundee on 02/12/19 at 3:00 pm


Really? I think of both of those decades as culturally rather short-lived as well. Most cultural and political historians actually say that the Sixties is the longest cultural period, stretching from as early as 1955 (beginning of the Civil Rights Movement) to all the way into 1974 with the resignation of Nixon.
Really? There's a whole culture and aesthetics behind the 60s, not just only political and sociological progressive movements, and that was relatively short lived as well.
It's probably not right to start the 60s culture in any year pre-British Invasion.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: LooseBolt on 02/12/19 at 3:49 pm


Really? There's a whole culture and aesthetics behind the 60s, not just only political and sociological progressive movements, and that was relatively short lived as well.
It's probably not right to start the 60s culture in any year pre-British Invasion.


The pervasive element of the Sixties was the culture wars between young and old, white and black, and the establishment vs. the American people as manifested in the conflict over the Vietnam War. Arguably these tensions were set off by the Civil Rights Movement in 1955.

So yes, if you want to talk about isolated aspects of the Sixties such as music or television, you could make an argument for the 1960s being the shortest of all, roughly 1966-1969. But in a more holistic approach that takes into account technology, politics, and the evolution of social and sexual mores, it boasts a much wider band.

I mean, what you’re suggesting is like reducing the ‘80s to 1982-1986, because that’s the height of John Hughes movies, or reducing the ‘00s to 2004-2007 because of the ‘08 shift.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/12/19 at 3:49 pm


Really? There's a whole culture and aesthetics behind the 60s, not just only political and sociological progressive movements, and that was relatively short lived as well.
It's probably not right to start the 60s culture in any year pre-British Invasion.

This.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/12/19 at 3:50 pm


The 2010s is kinda like the 1980s and 1950s.

If you're taking longevity.... YES!!!!

Culturally no!

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: mqg96 on 02/12/19 at 3:51 pm


If you're taking longevity.... YES!!!!

Culturally no!


Bruh, we need to talk, about A S**T TON of things that have happened the past few months. Culturally, politically and sports!

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/12/19 at 6:49 pm


Bruh, we need to talk, about A S**T TON of things that have happened the past few months. Culturally, politically and sports!

yeah we do! :o :o :o

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: mqg96 on 02/12/19 at 7:15 pm


yeah we do! :o :o :o


So the Super Bowl as you know was in Atlanta for the first time in 19 years, and man it was a crazy week in the city and an epic experience. My team missed the playoffs at 7-9 but there were fans of teams from all over the country. The Super Bowl activities were great and the entire city was lit AF with celebrities and NFL stars everywhere. Whether you are an NFL fan or not an NFL fan at all, it was very fun to watch. I had never seen Atlanta that crowded by whole life. The traffic was beyond insane. The Marta train stations were all full. Centennial Olympic Park, CNN Center, Aquarium, World of Coke, College Football Hall of Fame, the concerts in Phillips Arena, Twin Smokers BBQ, Buckhead, the hotels, The Battery, etc. everything man. The morning after the Super Bowl the Atlanta airport had a broken record amount of long lines and delays  :o

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: BornIn86 on 02/13/19 at 12:31 am


I know some will probably disagree but I'm gonna go out and say I don't believe anything that's popular right now will be what defines the '20s. I don't feel we have entered '20s culture at all yet and I have a feeling the decade will start fairly late and not on time. I would say give it until at least 2021. It's not like 10 years ago where in 2009 we all knew and agreed we were in a new decade, or like 1999 when we knew we were in 2000s culture already. Next decade's culture will be defined a bit later I think. I think we still didn't reach peak late 2010s.


Sorry to be nitpicky but nearly no one thought it was 2000s culture in 1999. I don't think many were thinking beyond y2k that year.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: ilovethe2010s on 02/13/19 at 3:07 am

I gotta agree with most here; I started getting into vaporwave in 2016 and we actually designed our basement using that aesthetic in 2017.  Most of my friends started listening to lots of vaporwave/Simpsonswave/chillwave sets by early 2018, so for me it belongs solely to the 2010s.  Besides, it's so heavily influenced by 80s nostalgia how could it possibly belong to any other decade?

The funny thing is now that so many singers are borrowing from the aesthetic I don't feel like my basement is even cool anymore haha might have to switch it up in 2020!

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/13/19 at 11:05 am


Sorry to be nitpicky but nearly no one thought it was 2000s culture in 1999. I don't think many were thinking beyond y2k that year.

Well... looking back on the year if it weren't for Clinton still being president and 9/11 not hapening that WOULD BE first pinpoint for 00s culture. Slim would agree with me.

Subject: Re: Vaporwave: The new 2020s aesthetic?

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 02/13/19 at 11:06 am


So the Super Bowl as you know was in Atlanta for the first time in 19 years, and man it was a crazy week in the city and an epic experience. My team missed the playoffs at 7-9 but there were fans of teams from all over the country. The Super Bowl activities were great and the entire city was lit AF with celebrities and NFL stars everywhere. Whether you are an NFL fan or not an NFL fan at all, it was very fun to watch. I had never seen Atlanta that crowded by whole life. The traffic was beyond insane. The Marta train stations were all full. Centennial Olympic Park, CNN Center, Aquarium, World of Coke, College Football Hall of Fame, the concerts in Phillips Arena, Twin Smokers BBQ, Buckhead, the hotels, The Battery, etc. everything man. The morning after the Super Bowl the Atlanta airport had a broken record amount of long lines and delays  :o

That sounded exciting too bad the Super bowl wasn't... :-\\ ;D

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