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Subject: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: d90 on 04/22/18 at 6:40 pm

What effects will this have?

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: Wobo on 04/22/18 at 6:45 pm

Doubt.

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: Voiceofthe70s on 04/22/18 at 7:34 pm

I'm not sure if I fully get this question. I'm not particularly a jazz fan, but it has always seemed to exist in it's own little niche with it's own type of fans. So maybe what I'm saying is it has never really been popular or unpopular because it exists "as its own thing". Its not really like there was a period when the predominant type of hit music on the radio was jazz. It's like classical, it's just something that's always there.  So I'm not sure how it could "get popular again".  ???

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: 2001 on 04/22/18 at 7:51 pm

The 2020s parties will be to die for.

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: gibbo on 04/22/18 at 10:29 pm


The 2020s parties will be to die for.


Yes... I will definitely stop my partying!  Oh wait ... I stopped that when the 90's came around!!  :o

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: 2001 on 04/22/18 at 10:31 pm


Yes... I will definitely stop my partying!  Oh wait ... I stopped that when the 90's came around!!  :o


Hopefully the electro-jazz of the 2020s get you back on your feet eh  ;)

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: xenzue on 04/22/18 at 11:17 pm

Pure 20th century style jazz will never make a comeback in the mainstream, but it will never really die out, and Jazz has a much bigger following than classical European music does. History shows that comebacks are only short-lived, and even then they usually aren't the main sound of the time. However, I think Jazz-influenced/derived music can definitely make become mainstream, especially through alternative hip hop/R&B and electronic music. Same thing for Rock, it's all about creating something new and innovative.

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: xenzue on 04/22/18 at 11:46 pm

TPAB had a lot of Jazz influence, and some of it was straight up bebop. J Cole's latest album also has some jazz-influenced tracks.

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: Dundee on 04/23/18 at 2:31 am

Jazz Rap is a fairly popular in Rap communities, and is picked up more and more by Conscious hip hop artists.

There is also a very healthy British Jazz scene happening these last few recent years that is very hyped up by music journalists :)
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2017/mar/15/jazz-london-moses-boyd-united-vibrations
https://www.clashmusic.com/features/uk-jazz-is-killing-it-right-now
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/new-london-jazz-shabaka-hutchings-nubya-garcia-moses-boyd-w516682
Promising!


Its not really like there was a period when the predominant type of hit music on the radio was jazz.
The 20s-40s say you hello ::)

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: LyricBoy on 04/23/18 at 5:17 am

Cool.  8)

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: Voiceofthe70s on 04/23/18 at 11:33 am


  History shows that comebacks are only short-lived, and even then they usually aren't the main sound of the time. 


This is EXACTLY  what I've been trying to tell people here for some time with all these "what if so and so comes back" threads. Once something passes from the mainstream it NEVER "comes back".  Oh, something may "come back" as a sort of niche revival for about ten minutes, like the current overhyped, false "vinyl revival" (and I say that as someone who has collected and loved albums since the 1960s) but it never comes back into mainstream use. Culture simply doesn't work that way. Otherwise horse and buggies and iceboxes (to use an example) would have "come back" at some point, among other things. Like the famous Neil Young song says "once you're gone you can't come back/when you're out of the blue and into the black."

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: John Titor on 04/23/18 at 11:38 am


This is EXACTLY  what I've been trying to tell people here for some time with all these "what if so and so comes back" threads. Once something passes from the mainstream it NEVER "comes back".  Oh, something may "come back" as a sort of niche revival for about ten minutes, like the current overhyped, false "vinyl revival" (and I say that as someone who has collected and loved albums since the 1960s) but it never comes back into mainstream use. Culture simply doesn't work that way. Otherwise horse and buggies and iceboxes (to use an example) would have "come back" at some point, among other things. Like the famous Neil Young song says "once you're gone you can't come back/when you're out of the blue and into the black."


Dance pop came back in 2008 and lasted until 2013 lol

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/23/18 at 1:15 pm

Jazz becoming popular again is HIGHLY unlikely.

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: gibbo on 04/23/18 at 5:01 pm


Hopefully the electro-jazz of the 2020s get you back on your feet eh  ;)


That would be my two left feet!

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: HeyJealousy on 04/23/18 at 9:07 pm


Jazz Rap is a fairly popular in Rap communities, and is picked up more and more by Conscious hip hop artists.

There is also a very healthy British Jazz scene happening these last few recent years that is very hyped up by music journalists :)
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2017/mar/15/jazz-london-moses-boyd-united-vibrations
https://www.clashmusic.com/features/uk-jazz-is-killing-it-right-now
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/new-london-jazz-shabaka-hutchings-nubya-garcia-moses-boyd-w516682
Promising!
The 20s-40s say you hello ::)


“Acid Jazz” is the phrase for this.
Galliano is a fairly popular acid-jazz act (or was, back in the late 90s).
They had a minor hit with “Slack Hands”, which was featured in the 1997 crime thriller film “187” (with Samuel L Jackson).
If this trend rises to prominence in the rap/hip-hop community, then that would be great but it’s not a very feasible scenario at this point.

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: Tyrannosaurus Rex on 04/23/18 at 9:09 pm

As long as genres like fashwave or NSBM don't become popular in the 2020's, I'm pretty sure that we would most likely be fine.

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: Dundee on 04/24/18 at 12:42 am


As long as genres like fashwave or NSBM don't become popular in the 2020's, I'm pretty sure that we would most likely be fine.
I'm curious, what's that?

Edit: Nevermind, lmao, didn't know there was a vaporwave genre dedicated to national socialism. Everything is possible on the internet ::)

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: piecesof93 on 04/29/18 at 12:39 am

It probably won't but at least current wave of Hip-Hop/R&B has been incorporating Jazz elements. That's close enough for me.

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: BornIn86 on 04/29/18 at 12:48 am

Kamasi Washington is the big happening in jazz right now. If he went full mainstream, that'd be insane.

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: Dundee on 04/29/18 at 12:53 am


Kamasi Washington is the big happening in jazz right now. If he went full mainstream, that'd be insane.
Yep and a new album of him comes out in June, can't wait :D

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: Philip Eno on 04/29/18 at 1:49 am

Jazz has never gone away, it has always been there, and still is popular today.

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: Howard on 04/29/18 at 2:51 pm


Jazz has never gone away, it has always been there, and still is popular today.


It's just become a different sound.

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: Philip Eno on 04/29/18 at 3:07 pm


It's just become a different sound.
It's the same sound for me.

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: SmartBo1 on 04/29/18 at 5:59 pm

Maybe beatniks will rise in popularity again. :-\\ 

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: AL-B Mk. III on 04/29/18 at 6:03 pm

I'd like to see another blues revival happen as well.

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: bchris02 on 04/29/18 at 7:09 pm


Jazz has never gone away, it has always been there, and still is popular today.


Correct.  It's just not being promoted in Top 40 and probably never will again.  At this point, I think it's even a long shot for rock to reclaim its former dominance despite how much people want it to happen.

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: BornIn86 on 04/29/18 at 7:29 pm


Correct.  It's just not being promoted in Top 40 and probably never will again.  At this point, I think it's even a long shot for rock to reclaim its former dominance despite how much people want it to happen.


Perhaps, but even though rap is the big man on campus now, rap is only a little over a decade younger than rock and I'm not sure if anyone else can tell but even rap is getting a little long around the ears. Someone wrote "rap is in the glam metal stage" when referring to trap music and it really feels like it. If rap follows a similar trajectory as jazz and rock, rap's downfall is lingering somewhere in the 2030s.

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: bchris02 on 04/29/18 at 7:39 pm


Perhaps, but even though rap is the big man on campus now, rap is only a little over a decade younger than rock and I'm not sure if anyone else can tell but even rap is getting a little long around the ears. Someone wrote "rap is in the glam metal stage" when referring to trap music and it really feels like it. If rap follows a similar trajectory as jazz and rock, rap's downfall is lingering somewhere in the 2030s.


This sounds about right.  I think glam metal is a good comparison for the current era of hip-hop.

What do you think about EDM?  Do you think it's peaked yet and do you think it will remain prevalent for as long as rock and rap?  The 2010s is the first decade it's enjoyed widespread mainstream popularity.  It was mostly still underground in the 2000s (with a few crossover hits).  It enjoyed a little more popularity in the 90s in the form of eurodance, but that faded quickly in 1998 and was never as dominant as EDM is today.

Subject: Re: What if Jazz becomes popular again in the 2020s?

Written By: BornIn86 on 04/29/18 at 9:02 pm


This sounds about right.  I think glam metal is a good comparison for the current era of hip-hop.

What do you think about EDM?  Do you think it's peaked yet and do you think it will remain prevalent for as long as rock and rap?  The 2010s is the first decade it's enjoyed widespread mainstream popularity.  It was mostly still underground in the 2000s (with a few crossover hits).  It enjoyed a little more popularity in the 90s in the form of eurodance, but that faded quickly in 1998 and was never as dominant as EDM is today.


EDM could definitely become the dominant genre after rap but I doubt it'll be the kind of EDM that's popular right now. Many different types of EDM has been made over the years and very few of those types have gotten mainstream attention. In my opinion, EDM in the 2010s is the most over-commercialized music genre. I think as producers start investigating EDM more thoroughly, other neglected genres inside EDM could potentially and probably will rise.

Here are some great recent house songs.

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