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Subject: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: CarCar on 08/21/20 at 7:52 am

Smartphones aside was it really that consistent like the 80s ?

2010 just doesn’t seem that similar to 2019

Can y’all admit that y’all called those shots to early in 2016, 2017 and 2018, and give a new opinion ?

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/20 at 2:42 pm

Yes the 2010s were very consistent like the 1980s. Anyone who says otherwise is either very young or just isn't being honest. People make a big deal over gradual changes and updates but 2010 and 2019 do not feel like a completely different world. The entire decade from start to finish was a digital decade in its entirety (whether that's digital cameras or smartphones, Netflix streaming or Blu Ray, Spotify music streaming or ITunes, still digital). You can't say the same for the 1990s and 2000s which still had a lot of analog. Not to mention the fashion in the 2010s decade is nearly identical straight through. Celebrity culture and music was not very changeful either, Drake, Justin Bieber, Katy Perry, and Rihanna were all the big stars the entire decade. And for world events and politics it was fairly similar the entire decade. People forget some of the crazy events from the early 2010s such as the recession, continued concerns over the '09 Swine Flu, the 2012 school shooting, the political divide that was already starting to occur even in the early 2010s. It was a VERY consistent decade no doubt.

Can you tell the difference between a movie made in 2019 and a movie made in 2010? I can't really... The film quality looks the same... Maybe less smartphones are used or more outdated smartphones and some outdated tech. Or that It's just that there are more marvel movies out now. The picture quality is exactly the same though. Not a huge difference. But you can easily tell the difference between a 2009 and 2000 movie or even 1999 and 1990. The difference is a lot more profound. The 2010s were reminiscent of the 1980s like comparing 1989 to 1980, some very clear differences but nothing major and very consistent on the whole.

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: wixness on 08/21/20 at 3:18 pm

Since 2013 it felt too consistent to me - the terrible aesthetic (with regards to fashion and music) in my opinion still hasn't gone away. The 2010s has been woke, but only more so than other decades and even in this decade people weren't consistently woke, the past less woke than now; this is the only inconsistency I perceive. Calls to defund the police came by relatively recently (well, in 2020, and as much as I hate to be the "2020s started in 2021" person, I still feel like there are 2010s holdovers).

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/20 at 5:06 pm


Since 2013 it felt too consistent to me - the terrible aesthetic (with regards to fashion and music) in my opinion still hasn't gone away. The 2010s has been woke, but only more so than other decades and even in this decade people weren't consistently woke, the past less woke than now; this is the only inconsistency I perceive. Calls to defund the police came by relatively recently (well, in 2020, and as much as I hate to be the "2020s started in 2021" person, I still feel like there are 2010s holdovers).

And even things before 2013 and from the early 2010s in general have lingered on. Game of Thrones,  flat touch design, and EDM are examples among many other things.

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Jaydawg89 on 08/22/20 at 7:56 am

Yeah not really consistent even though, I feel that the latter half of the 2010s were definitely more consistent than the first half. Btw, this might be off topic but, I strongly disagree with the whole idea of the 1980s being consistent, especially technologically.

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Dundee on 08/22/20 at 1:37 pm

Both the 1980s and 2010s aren't consistent at all lol. 1980 and 1989 are like night and day, same with 2010 and 2019.

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: CarCar on 08/22/20 at 5:54 pm


Yeah not really consistent even though, I feel that the latter half of the 2010s were definitely more consistent than the first half. Btw, this might be off topic but, I strongly disagree with the whole idea of the 1980s being consistent, especially technologically.


First person here who has a different opinion like that, what would you say makes the 80s a non-consistent decade

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Jaydawg89 on 08/22/20 at 8:42 pm


First person here who has a different opinion like that, what would you say makes the 80s a non-consistent decade


Definitely the technology:
- Explosion of surveillance cameras (due to VHS)
- Computers replacing Type Writers in the workplace & schools
- Microwaves become popular
- The rise of audio cassettes and the death of vinyl
- Portable music players become common
- The explosion of Cable Television
- Cable Ready TVs become standard (F connectors replaces twin lead connectors)
- Television remotes become popular
- VHS becomes commonplace
- The true rise of video game consoles, especially with the NES (the overwhelming majority of gamers in 1980 only went to the arcades to play games)
- PC Video Gaming kicks off
- 16-bit video games overtake 8-bit in the arcades
- We see the earliest Polygon/3D video games in the arcades
- Push-Button Landlines replace Rotary Landlines
- Answering Machines become common
- CGI/computer animation gets its mainstream start in the 80s (in music videos, commercials, films, even Pixar gets mainstream attention due to their short films)
- Synthesizers in music advanced a lot (going from the primitive "early 80s sound" in 1980 to the more smooth/slick "early 90s sound" in 1990)
- Audio in movies becomes a lot clearer (which becomes obvious with movies from the late 80s)

Politically, the 80s were drastically changeful too, we were basically already in the 90s when the decade was ending. In 1980, the Cold War had a lot of tension and by the time we had approached 1990, the cold war was pretty much over (especially after the cold war). Also, 1980 was very conservative meanwhile, 1990 was leaning more on the liberal side, climate change was also already being talked about.

Culturally, Hollywood Blockbusters became more established (this mainly happened in the early 80s). Hip Hop became mainstream (becoming the dominant genre in 1990), EDM music blew up at the very ash end of the 80s, we went from Post-Disco to New Jack Swing, we saw the rise of music videos, we obviously saw synthesizers and drum machines become standard in music (they first started to become popular in the late 70s). Fashion also evolved throughout the decade too obviously, with Hip Hop taking a pretty big influence among the youth.

There is obviously a lot more stuff that I have forgot to include as well.

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: xX07-GhostXx on 08/23/20 at 12:06 am

... yes, yes I do. From 2013 onwards, at least.

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: mc98 on 08/23/20 at 12:19 am

I could list a hundred things why 2010 and 2019 are different from each other. The 1980s aren't consistent too

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Slim95 on 08/23/20 at 12:32 am

Let me give you one example out of many on how 2010 and 2019 are not worlds away like many people say.

NBA Finals from 2010

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NBA Finals from 2019

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Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Slim95 on 08/23/20 at 12:32 am

NBA Finals from 2000

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NBA Finals from 2009

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The difference in picture quality in the 2009 vs 2000 one is profound. The 2019 vs 2010 is not...

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Slim95 on 08/23/20 at 12:47 am

Most popular cell phone of 2000
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/31/Nokia_3310_blue.jpg/150px-Nokia_3310_blue.jpg

Most popular cell phone of 2009/2010
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/IPhone_PSD_White_3G.png/200px-IPhone_PSD_White_3G.png

Most popular cell phone of 2019
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/IPhone_11_White.svg/400px-IPhone_11_White.svg.png


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_mobile_phones

You be the judge.

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Jaydawg89 on 08/23/20 at 4:01 am


Most popular cell phone of 2000
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/31/Nokia_3310_blue.jpg/150px-Nokia_3310_blue.jpg

Most popular cell phone of 2009/2010
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/IPhone_PSD_White_3G.png/200px-IPhone_PSD_White_3G.png

Most popular cell phone of 2019
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/IPhone_11_White.svg/400px-IPhone_11_White.svg.png


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_mobile_phones

You be the judge.


The most common cellphone of 2000 was definitely the Nokia 3210 not the 3310. Also in 2010, we were in the transition between dumb phones and smart phones but, the overwhelming majority of people in the 2009-2010 school year still had slider phones and BlackBerry phones (especially the BlackBerry Pearl). Also with the basketball footage, the big reason why the 2000 and 2009 footage looks so different is because the 2009 footage is in High Definition. Tbh, if we had HD as early as mid 1994, it would still be hard to spot much of a difference (except for technology, which has advanced a lot since then), the 1993 - 1994 school year is the last school year where I would be able to obviously tell a difference.

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: CarCar on 08/23/20 at 5:25 am


The most common cellphone of 2000 was definitely the Nokia 3210 not the 3310. Also in 2010, we were in the transition between dumb phones and smart phones but, the overwhelming majority of people in the 2009-2010 school year still had slider phones and BlackBerry phones (especially the BlackBerry Pearl). Also with the basketball footage, the big reason why the 2000 and 2009 footage looks so different is because the 2009 footage is in High Definition. Tbh, if we had HD as early as mid 1994, it would still be hard to spot much of a difference (except for technology, which has advanced a lot since then), the 1993 - 1994 school year is the last school year where I would be able to obviously tell a difference.


Apparently slider phones don’t exist in slim95s mind lol

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Jaydawg89 on 08/23/20 at 8:00 am


Apparently slider phones don’t exist in slim95s mind lol


Haha, I think the majority of my friends had slider phones in 2009 and literally only one got a smartphone in late 2009. All my friends and relatives mainly changed to smartphones througout 2010 and 2011.

I just remembered but, my uncle actually got an iPhone right on launch in 2007 but, he's a real tech geek, he (and my grandad) got a cellphone in the 80s (back when no one had one lmao).

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: CarCar on 08/23/20 at 8:50 am



Haha, I think the majority of my friends had slider phones in 2009 and literally only one got a smartphone in late 2009. All my friends and relatives mainly changed to smartphones througout 2010 and 2011.

I just remembered but, my uncle actually got an iPhone right on launch in 2007 but, he's a real tech geek, he (and my grandad) got a cellphone in the 80s (back when no one had one lmao).


Many people in my middle school still had slider phones in 2012 while the half of us had early IPhones and IPod Touch

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Slim95 on 08/23/20 at 12:39 pm


The most common cellphone of 2000 was definitely the Nokia 3210 not the 3310. Also in 2010, we were in the transition between dumb phones and smart phones but, the overwhelming majority of people in the 2009-2010 school year still had slider phones and BlackBerry phones (especially the BlackBerry Pearl). Also with the basketball footage, the big reason why the 2000 and 2009 footage looks so different is because the 2009 footage is in High Definition. Tbh, if we had HD as early as mid 1994, it would still be hard to spot much of a difference (except for technology, which has advanced a lot since then), the 1993 - 1994 school year is the last school year where I would be able to obviously tell a difference.

Um nope. Read the article again. The Nokia was the most sold in DEVELOPING COUNTRIES. That does not count. If the IPHONE was the most selling phone in 2009 then that tells you that... And this is pure fact by the numbers, not opinion.

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Slim95 on 08/23/20 at 12:41 pm


Many people in my middle school still had slider phones in 2012 while the half of us had early IPhones and IPod Touch

That doesn't change the fact on the most highest selling phone.

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Slim95 on 08/23/20 at 12:41 pm


Apparently slider phones don’t exist in slim95s mind lol

Or you don't believe the numbers?

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Slim95 on 08/23/20 at 12:43 pm


The most common cellphone of 2000 was definitely the Nokia 3210 not the 3310. Also in 2010, we were in the transition between dumb phones and smart phones but, the overwhelming majority of people in the 2009-2010 school year still had slider phones and BlackBerry phones (especially the BlackBerry Pearl). Also with the basketball footage, the big reason why the 2000 and 2009 footage looks so different is because the 2009 footage is in High Definition. Tbh, if we had HD as early as mid 1994, it would still be hard to spot much of a difference (except for technology, which has advanced a lot since then), the 1993 - 1994 school year is the last school year where I would be able to obviously tell a difference.

Heck even as early as 2008. Go to the 2008 section of the article. IPhone is the highest selling phone worldwide.
Apple iPhone 3G - 25 million sold

2007 was the last year a non-smartphone was the highest selling phone of the year. Look at the article if you don't believe me. And don't be dishonest by picking the only year with an anomaly of developing countries purchasing a Nokia. Even if you did that, both 2009 AND 2008 still have the IPhone being the highest selling phone.

And these are pure facts and numbers, not opinion.

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Howard on 08/23/20 at 1:12 pm


Most popular cell phone of 2000
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/31/Nokia_3310_blue.jpg/150px-Nokia_3310_blue.jpg

Most popular cell phone of 2009/2010
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/IPhone_PSD_White_3G.png/200px-IPhone_PSD_White_3G.png

Most popular cell phone of 2019
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/IPhone_11_White.svg/400px-IPhone_11_White.svg.png


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_mobile_phones

You be the judge.


I can't believe how phones changed in size over the past 20 years. :o

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: CarCar on 08/23/20 at 1:43 pm


That doesn't change the fact on the most highest selling phone.


You act as if slider phones were rendered obsolete and seized to be used in the 2010s when that’s not the case even if smartphones were the highest selling.

Your just a 2010s hater and nothing else tbh

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: CarCar on 08/23/20 at 1:46 pm


Or you don't believe the numbers?


I didn’t even read it yet

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Slim95 on 08/23/20 at 2:23 pm


You act as if slider phones were rendered obsolete and seized to be used in the 2010s when that’s not the case even if smartphones were the highest selling.

Your just a 2010s hater and nothing else tbh

I didn't say slider phones weren't popular but was just making the point of the IPHONE having a huge market share in the early 2010s.

Also, thinking the 2010s were consistent has nothing to do with hating the decade. I do hate the decade but that's a separate issue from its consistency. The 1980s were consistent and that decade was great, so my hatred for the 2010s is irrelevant in this topic.

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: mc98 on 08/23/20 at 2:29 pm

The 1980s weren't consistent at all. The music went from post disco and soft rock to 1989 when hip hop and new jack swing began to dominate.

1980:
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1989:
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Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Slim95 on 08/23/20 at 2:34 pm

Another example is the cars

2000 Toyota Corolla
https://s.aolcdn.com/commerce/autodata/images/CAB00TOC041C0101.jpg

2009 Toyota Corolla
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSjJX6XwKZXvP0pBJlh2C6b5uU9FlkFCx7nZpYXY14&s=0

2019 Toyota Corolla
https://i.gaw.to/content/photos/36/63/366325_2019_Toyota_Corolla.jpg?460x287

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: CarCar on 08/23/20 at 2:35 pm


I didn't say slider phones weren't popular but was just making the point of the IPHONE having a huge market share in the early 2010s.

Also, thinking the 2010s were consistent has nothing to do with hating the decade. I do hate the decade but that's a separate issue from its consistency. The 1980s were consistent and that decade was great, so my hatred for the 2010s is irrelevant in this topic.


No but it shows your really baised

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Slim95 on 08/23/20 at 2:36 pm


No but it shows your really baised

I'm not. Even if there were a lot of changes it doesn't mean I would like it.

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Jaydawg89 on 08/23/20 at 6:57 pm


The 1980s weren't consistent at all. The music went from post disco and soft rock to 1989 when hip hop and new jack swing began to dominate.

1980:
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1989:
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I know right? Where does this even come from? The 1980s had plently of change in them, I might even argue they were more changeful than the 2000s honestly.

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Jaydawg89 on 08/23/20 at 7:02 pm


Um nope. Read the article again. The Nokia was the most sold in DEVELOPING COUNTRIES. That does not count. If the IPHONE was the most selling phone in 2009 then that tells you that... And this is pure fact by the numbers, not opinion.


I've looked at the sales and the smartphone penetration rates and it doesn't seemed like they took off until 2010 in developed countries (which definitely seems right). Plus, there were other companies other than Nokia, what about Motorola? Literally everyone wanted a Motorola Razr in 2004 - 2006.

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Slim95 on 08/23/20 at 7:04 pm


I've looked at the sales and the smartphone penetration rates and it doesn't seemed like they took off until 2010 in developed countries (which definitely seems right). Plus, there were other companies other than Nokia, what about Motorola? Literally everyone wanted a Motorola Razr in 2004 - 2006.

2004 - 2006? Who's talking about that?  ??? We're talking about the 2010s not being consistent, not the 2000s. The 2000s were indeed very changeful.

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: wixness on 08/23/20 at 8:25 pm


2004 - 2006? Who's talking about that?  ??? We're talking about the 2010s not being consistent, not the 2000s. The 2000s were indeed very changeful.
So changeful in fact large parts of it are ignored. 2000-2005 at the latest had a unique aesthetic, as did 2005-2009 (the forgotten half). I assert once again that most of the 2010s from 2013 onward felt very consistent, maybe with the major change being political from 2016.

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Jaydawg89 on 08/23/20 at 9:23 pm


2004 - 2006? Who's talking about that?  ??? We're talking about the 2010s not being consistent, not the 2000s. The 2000s were indeed very changeful.


I used the Motorola Razr's popularity to show that Motorola is indeed a very relevant company that you seem to of ignored. Motorola phones were still commonly sold in the late 2000s too. You only brought up Apple and Nokia (which started declining in 2007 anyway). There was LG, BlackBerry (easily the biggest company in 2009), Ericsson, Siemens and also Samsung never jumped to proper smartphones until 2010.

Lol, and the 1980s and 1990s were more changeful than the 2000s but, that's just my opinion.

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Slim95 on 08/23/20 at 9:37 pm


I used the Motorola Razr's popularity to show that Motorola is indeed a very relevant company that you seem to of ignored. Motorola phones were still commonly sold in the late 2000s too. You only brought up Apple and Nokia (which started declining in 2007 anyway). There was LG, BlackBerry (easily the biggest company in 2009), Ericsson, Siemens and also Samsung never jumped to proper smartphones until 2010.

Lol, and the 1980s and 1990s were more changeful than the 2000s but, that's just my opinion.

I brought up Apple because it had the most selling phone...

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: Jaydawg89 on 08/23/20 at 10:11 pm


I brought up Apple because it had the most selling phone...


My point is even though, the Apple 3G was the most common phone in 2009, it only accumulated for 4% of the overall use of mobile phones in the US for most of 2009. There were a crap ton other phones in 2009 and in the pre-smartphone era there was a much much larger selection (smartphones on the otherhand were only being sold by very few companies, with Apple by far being the largest). Smartphones only had 17% of the mobile marketshare by December 2009 too. I will admit that the iPhone 3GS was the first smartphone that I commonly saw but, the overwhelming majority still didn't have a smartphone (including the 18 - 29 demographic).

Subject: Re: Y’all still believe 2010s culture was consistent ?

Written By: DisneysRetro on 08/28/20 at 5:59 am

Yeah I fee they are or were pretty consistent for the most part in terms of technology and social platforms. Not much has changed in that aspect since the early 2010’s. Politically a lot changed around 2016. And now in 2020 things have changed for a long time presumably.

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